Would you ever have kids?
Personally, I don't see why anyone would want some smelly, bratty little mini mes bugging them 24/7.
Just gonna live the bachelor life 4ever i reckon.
>>77348146
Dont you want to die in your bed happy and fulfilled surrounded by your many children and grandchildren, knowing that your genetic legacy will live on?
You know that by not having children your ending genetic legacy of hundreds of your ancestors.
>>77348146
Yes we should leave all the breeding to muslims and dindus
>tepid bait
>>77348394
I have 2 brothers and a sister. If I need my child fix i've got my (future) nephews and neices.
>>77348394
>You know that by not having children your ending genetic legacy of hundreds of your ancestors.
Good. My ancestors were nothing but bigots and sociopaths who don't deserve to have their genes carried into the future. Besides, the world is already overpopulated. The less mouths I feed here frees up more resources for the people that really need it.
Because my instinct is to breed and populate the world with my seed, just like every other creature in existence. Survival of the fittest.
>>77348683
I'm a sociopath, we need some love too lmao.
>>77348394
This 2bh.
OP you're a biological failure.
>>77348683
>t. Bait
>>77348853
Oh boo hoo. Have fun wiping up shit and wasting $$$ on spoilt brats for 18-30 years of your life.
>>77348146
I want to have children but that would require getting a wife and I suck at that.
>>77348683
>>77348937
>waaaahhh waaaahhh everything I disagree with is bait
How does it feel to be a mental midget?
>>77349173
It's not rocket science, just be open and interested and most importantly honest about yourself, you'll find one.
>>77348146
You are not a basement dwelling loser that women would never chose for reproduction. It can't be more obvious.
>>77348146
I'm at an age were my eggs are spoilt and rotten and my kids would get autism or Down.
So I'll pass.
You're not even a bot, but you are using bot topics?
I don't understand, are you genuinely curious?
>>77349431
Doubt that.
Well white children are more valuable than black children or children of any other race because they are rarer, more beautiful and intelligent. So if your white your obligated to have kids and teach them to slay Jews and become little benign slave masters of our lesser subhuman brothers and sisters.
>>77348146
I despise kids so no I'm not having any
>>77349798
What if my Fiance is Jewish anon?
>he doesn't feel the want to impregnate a healthy and stable woman and raise a family to protect, pass knowledge onto and raise into decent, strong willed human beings
You are the ultra beta. This should be hardwired into your genetic code, but it's not and you are a failure of a man.
>>77348146
I already have four qt kids, dunno if I'll have a fifth though. It's pretty rewarding if you raise them right, but there are a lot of shitty days. My oldest three are sick right now so I'm kinda dealing with that mess. I don't really ever regret having them, though.
The male model is not the father of the children in this picture.
>>77349951
It is, but I'm smart enough to ignore it. Instead you give in to your base instincts like an animal or some sort of throwback.
>>77348146
Well,I already have two. Wife and I want two more. The thing is, birth is such a fucking amazing experience as you hold a completely new life in your arms. And trult, if you love your kids, you'll be a good father. That's what it really comes down to. Even discipline. It's all out of love. I'm white and so is my wife and we both came from families with a lot of offspring.
>>77350186
nah dude, you just can't fuck white women because you smell and have a 3 inch dick
i'd go 'bachelor' too if my only choice was disgusting yellow midget sluts senpai
I have two kids and we reckon that's enough. Still, I see them and feel a twinge of regret (lacking a better word) for their brothers and sisters who won't exist. That is, I know that a third child would be just as terrific as the first two, and it seems strangely unfair (to him? to Earth?) not to create him. Parental arrogance, I guess.
>White people were once 25% of the global population
>White population now in single digits
>I'm not aware of any white country anywhere on the planet where the fertility rate isn't at crisis level below the natural replacement rate of 2.05, except for maybe Ireland.
>>77348146
Whenever I find my qt Hijabi wife I'm going to have at the very least 3 kids with her.
Mexican + Arab, what will this concoction produce /pol/?
>>77350396
I am white. Living the bachelor life in exotic far flung places like Dubai, Singapore and now Hong Kong.
Tell me, who can afford that with kids and a missus in tow?
>>77348146
i don't want to even be married to someone.
>>77350902
Your parents will shack u up with some1 surelty?
>>77348146
Go right ahead. Let the Africans and sand nuggets outbreed us
>>77348394
>Dont you want to die in your bed happy and fulfilled surrounded by your many children and grandchildren, knowing that your genetic legacy will live on?
No because I don't plan on dying in bed like a cuck
>>77350705
Explosive piñata's.
>>77350705
Retard babies. Don't do it.
>>77350554
i still don't understand how this matter so much to someone. just live for yourself, one person can't make a change that huge, so stop caring.
>>77350705
>Mexican + Arab, what will this concoction produce /pol/?
guaranteed shitskins
>>77351084
>why would white genocide matter, stupid goyim?
>>77350948
no. well look, i WILL be married. but i'm not sure i really want it right now. i don't like sharing my life with someone. plus i don't trust women
>>77348146
If you don't want kids, you're a victim of the Jewish media.
>if I'm selfish, when I'm elderly and dying alone I'll totally be just as happy with no kids!
k, good luck
>>77351084
>>77348146
if i get super rich, i will have 10 kids
if not, 0 kids
>>77351166
it will happen loong after you die, so why would you care ? you are you, you're not a part of something big that you should keep, that you should protect, that you should do something about. and no, there's no genocide, so you can take off that tinfoil hat now and go outside.
>>77351183
I've got my wonderful nephews and nieces with more on the way.
>>77351048
Kek
>>77351060
>>77351105
I'm too drawn to them, /pol/ has only increased my fetish for them, I'm too far gone boys.
>>77351169
Why don't you trust women? I'm sure around 10% of them are genuinely good people.
>>77351212
heh, keep being delusional
>>77351284
>Brazil
0 it is
>>77351335
i'm not good enough for the good ones to stick around, and i don't like the idea of better-ing myself just to keep someone around.
I have two kids. The marriage fell apart, but it was worth it thanks to them. I'm lucky they turned out so well considering who their mother was (I was a retard who got married at 18 because he didn't know any better.)
>>77351309
And they're not your children. When you die, your bloodline will end.
>implying you truly don't care
If that's true, then I guess it's good. We need to breed degenerates with no desire to keep their genes going out of existence.
i don't want kids, a girlfriend or a wife
i do want a friend tho :'€
>>77351567
FRIEND!
>>77351567
Get a dogger
>>77348745
>survival of the fittest
Lmao you don't actually believe this do you? We passed that point long ago
>>77351567
shit. this, my friend, this.
For those who would like to have children, what are your thoughts on adoption?
>>77348745
nigger how fit are you ? fight me. race me.
>>77351547
>your bloodline will end
>nieces and nephews
you're one of them super retards aren't you?
>>77351807
Pretty chill my fiances brother and his boyfriend adopted a kid from Russia and they seem happy.
>>77351807
>adopting kids from someone related to you due to death of that person, accident, they are bad caretakers
A+
>adopting random kid
C (is for cuck)
>adopting kids that aren't even your race
Holy fuck to the cuck shed with you
>>77351547
Are you stupid or just pretending to be?
>>77352025
the fact that you care so much about your race, makes you a huge cuck
see this is what I mean when I dont complain about low birth rates of whites. That problem fixes itself - only those who want kids will procreate , those who dont, wont.
In the end, even the whites will have higher birth rates again, when they're rid of those who do not have the drive to procreate and who ruin the statistics.
>>77348394
Exactly this
>>77352251
>caring about your own race makes you a cuck
I think you are on the wrong forum.
There's no point in even being alive if you're not having children. Once you get out of your edgy teen phase you'll realize the importance of it.
My grandparents had 7 children, and I intend to have a lot as well, assuming that I'm in a financially secure situation.
If you're not planning on having children or don't want any and it's not for an outside reason (financial issues or health, etc), I won't take you seriously. Then again, that mindset is pretty degenerate, so it's probably best that you don't continue it to begin with.
>>77352456
idk, like, the white normie chads don't. only the white betas that feel threatened by black guys. and yes, normie chads are what we should aim to be, they're the manliest of all man.
People here will tell you
>muh genetics
>muh race
>muh bloodline
But unless you're royalty none of that really matters. The best thing you can do as a white is kill as many non whites as possible. Your children will be indoctrinated by the Jews no matter what you do. and the more slaves they have the better. Your wife will leave and take all your shit, forcing you to live as garbage. The best thing you could do to spite modern society is not play the game. Do whatever the fuck you want
>>77352017
blood·line
ˈblədˌlīn/
noun
noun: bloodline; plural noun: bloodlines
an animal's set of ancestors or pedigree, typically considered with regard to the desirable characteristics bred into it.
a set of ancestors or line of descent of a person.
>of a person
If your brother has a kid, that doesn't continue YOUR bloodline, child.
>>77352664
Thats what im saying man. MGTOW and all that. Fuck what society and the cucks on here think.
>>77352783
I think you need to go back to basic biology class
>>77352606
please be detailed on how it's important for you. what's your life goal ? mine is just being happy and not hungry. and i don't see how a family would make me happy.
I don't want kids because I don't want them to be raised in this shitty world
>>77352633
Stacy is white and they go for Stacy. They want the top bitch with the top genes. They don't admit to their racism and will spew liberal bullshit if needed but their behaviour is different.
They'll gladly pump and dump those others that want it though.
>>77352797
>MGTOW
Oh, so you're just some edgy virgin?
>>77352836
>get shown literal definition
>"heh well you need to go to school"
Okay.
>>77350986
The greatest warriors die of old age on a bed, as it means they won every battle they ever faced
>>77352903
You clearly don't understand genetics
>>77352899
MGTOW master race reporting
>>77352899
Nice argument
>>77348146
>2016
>not having kids
Good goy
>>77348146
depends on what my wife would want
if she says she does then ill eventually get used to it
if she says she doesnt im getting clipped the next day
>>77352856
>I don't see how a family would make me happy
Look around. Do you ever see fathers who say they hate their children or regret having them?
>>77352885
stacy is pretty and everyone goes for stacy. the non-stacy whites are fucked though
>>77353110
>creating more slaves for die Juden
Good goy indeed
>>77353142
The cuckold King
>>77348394
>die happy surrounded by children
I work at a nursing facility as a caregiver. Most people die alone, heavily medicated. I probably know more about most of my patients than their own fucking children. Children are leeches. Fuck this gay Earth.
>>77352797
You're stupid.
>>77353160
Yes
How often do you hear about that guy that regrets earning several million because he started his own business instead of a family?
>>77353220
>Children are leeches
If you had some you wouldn't think like that, I guarantee it
>>77348146
I'd like to if I could ever get into a position where I could properly provide for and raise them. There's also the hurdle of getting together with someone.
But that is not a reality.
>>77352899
What a well reasoned and thought out post.
>>77353332
By definition children are parasites, these days that extends upwards of age 22 or so
>>77353325
Never, because anyone smart enough to do that much understands the importance of offspring
>>77348146
Yes, otherwise what's the point of it all really? That said if you asked me I couldn't really explain why having kids would make life any more meaningful so I guess that's just biology/latent catholicism speaking.
>>77353325
Theres probably loads of people like that 2bh. Hopefully i wont regret it lol.
>>77353424
And what importance is that? Lol
>>77353160
yes but how would not having a family make them not happy ? idk, i just hate the thought of the huge responsibilities and being the 'protector'. it scares the shit out of me. it's like i have a mile stacks of homework to do. i just think that i'm never gonna be ready for it. everytime i look at myself, i realized that i shouldn't father anyone.
>>77348146
already impregnated a 99lb chinese girl
>>77352953
Not an argument.
If that's true, it should be easy to disprove what I've shown. :^)
>>77353442
Uh maybe live your life for yourself?
>>77353192
If you think a white woman that wants to get pregnant has any trouble finding seed, you've clearly never placed a catfishing online add.
>>77353220
Most people within a family don't like each other. It's rare to see siblings with no rivalry or kids that don't hate their parents for some reason.
>>77353570
Your genetics are the same as your siblings
>>77348146
I can see it ever happening I spent my entire youth more or less incel. Any women my age is a STD ridden whore and carries it like a badge of honor. Western women areparasites incapable of compassion or loyalty.
>I'll die along the only thing I have to look forward in life is watching society burn down around me because of the bullshit SJWs, Libs and Boomers have enabled.
Having kids was the best decision I have ever made.
>>77353668
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=genetic+differences+of+siblings
>>77353404
That's because parents are letting the media get to them and not raising them with the right ideals
>>77353486
Obtaining a special type of love you can't get or understand without having them.
>>77353491
it's instinct, buddy.
>>77348146
No kids = nobody cares about you when you're old = you dying of starvation lost in your own bathroom suffering from dementia and not being found until a week later because of the smell
>>77348146
We don't need more faggots like you anyway, OP. let your cuck self die out and the real race will take hold.
>>77353779
99.95% identical.
>>77353948
Maybe you should raise your kids right then so that doesn't happen, you moron
>>77353836
>it's instinct, buddy.
i, and tons of other men, don't feel it.
>>77354004
Im a white guy living it up in Asia, I'd be the last person to want to have kids lol.
I don't want children, not yet anyway, as OP, I do not see why I would want them around.
But I am also not opposed to the idea and actually expect to change my mind about that later.
>>77354080
Yeah just don't let them go to school or consume any media or interact with normal kids, then they can have good family values not poisoned by the Jew
>>77348394
>You know that by not having children your ending genetic legacy of hundreds of your ancestors.
Not really.
Unless all your ancestors only had one child that reproduced.
Any mutations unique to your genetic makeup will be lost, but given the population rise after the industrialization it's hyperbole to claim your ending the genetic legacy of your ancestors.
>>77354069
And you probably are stupid enough to think .05% difference is insignificant.
Chimpanzees are 96% similar, for example.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html
>>77348146
>smelly, bratty little mini mes bugging them 24/7.
Personally I'm more scared of them turning into fedora mlp couch faggots
>>77348146
You aint getting more young lad
>>77354395
Are you literally retarded?
You think if you have a 20th cousin that survived and reproduces, that YOUR bloodline has not ended? That's the argument you're trying to make?
Looks like you need to contact Merriam-Webster about changing the definition.
>>77354495
this is also my fear. i'm not a good person and i'm afraid that my kid would be like me. plus a have shitty genetics that make me hate myself, i don't want to see them be like me.
>>77354083
You have never had children. You don't know what you're talking about. Take it from experienced people, trust me, YOU HAVE THAT INSTINCT. Everyone does.
>>77354199
Strawman
I find it so funny how these threads go
>How do you guys feel about kids? I personally don't want them because xyz
>CUUUUUCKKKK
>HOW COULD YOU NOT WANT MONEY DRAINS TO TAKE CARE OF 24/7 FOR 20+ YEARS?
>MUH GENETICS
>MUH CARETAKERS WHEN I'M OLD
lol
>>77348146
Twin 2 tear olds here. If youre not white don't procreate and if you are then start popping out kids now faggot. White males removing themselves from the genepool have really gotten under my skin.
>>77354911
Only liberals don't want kids, because they have no values or morals.
>>77354825
>You have never had children. You don't know what you're talking about. Take it from experienced people, trust me, YOU HAVE THAT INSTINCT. Everyone does.
if you read all my posts, you'll understand, that i'm just scared, and verry not confident. it's a huge responsibility and i'm just one little limp faggot
Never. Especially in this shithole.
I'm almost 30 and living only for myself. Travelling the world and doing the things i want without having some whore or kids pestering me.
>>77354967
how to get values and morals ? (hard mode : no religions)
>>77348146
intentionally having kids is the ultimate realization of personal failure
>>77354395
But unless you clone yourself that's hardly relevant to my statement. Any offspring will also carry the other parents genes.
Something will always be lost.
>>77354825
I also feel an instinct to beat loud people up but I don't do that either.
Aside from "muh feelings" and scare tactics nobody here has made sense why having kids is that great.
>>77355006
>whore
this
>>77355064
You can't have objective morality without religion.
>>77354967
Well that's just not true
I'm white, born and raised Catholic, went to private Catholic grade school and high school as well as public schools, would consider myself conservative I suppose, voting for trump. and I hate kids
>>77348146
I have a few kids already
My eldest son was adopted from Congo and my two little girls are from my wife's previous relationship
With the help of a sperm donor my wife is now pregnant with our 4th child
Feels good lads
Wouldn't trade it for anything
>>77355237
>conservative I suppose
>I suppose
Sure.
You're probably also 21 and a degenerate.
>>77355227
I just love when christfags start to shill.
Opiniondiscarded.jpg
>>77355227
i can just learn from people and society.
>>77355077
One is a simple desire. The other is a biological imperative. You'll understand eventually. The desire to ensure you live on through your progeny is a strong one. The pride and fulfillment you feel when you have raised someone is without equal.
>>77355326
>bait of this level
It's like you're not even trying
>>77355407
Morality cannot truly exist without religion. Without it, you can always make morality malleable. And if it can change, it's meaningless.
>>77355446
A human saying "this is moral" doesn't make it moral.
>>77355394
Nope but you can keep grasping at straws. I'm very racist and anti degeneracy. that's why I don't give in to the lady Jew or societal Jew like you want me to
>>77355450
>eventually you'll understand when you have kids
It sounds like it's a fucking Stockholm syndrome
>>77355544
You don't care enough about the future to even have children. Whether you realize it or not, you're a degenerate.
>>77355326
i like you
>>77355227
if that was true then humans wouldn't have survived to the point religions were first concieved
>>77355003
If you had kids you wouldn't feel this way.
>>77355077
Nice fedora. Why don't you try asking someone on here who has had kids?
I guarantee you anyone who has had children won't say they regretted doing so.
>>77348146
Fuck that. No children and got a vasectomy last week. Ejaculation without consequence for the rest of my life.
I will enjoy my money and freedom for the rest of my life while mommies and daddies bring their little shits to soccer practice, struggle to pay for college, or whatever other fucking nonsense they are obligated to do.
Parenthood = banality
>>77355326
>>77355506
>morality malleable
>religion never changes
Okay. When are you gonna burn that next witch? Because looking at people with weird eyes is totes wrong and having a mole, oh boy.
>>77355709
Tribalism isn't morality.
And you're implying that anything that helps you survive is moral, which is insane.
>>77355681
Faggot shit
>>77355506
>A human saying "this is moral" doesn't make it moral.
i meant, just socialize, work with people, talk to people, and you'll realize what's right what's wrong. i'm an adult, i don't need a manual book telling me what to think.
Don't want kids and probably never will, I can get more done in my life by myself and they're expensive
>>77348146
cuz not having kids is like saying youd rather not have been born
>>77353160
Yeah, my father. I look at him and realized how shitty his life was because of us. I know only stayed around because that was the right thing to do. He regretted having me. He's said it before. My friends old man never wanted him and hell, still doesn't want him.
>>77355663
I care about the future to kill non whites, what have you done besides create more slaves for the Jewish regime? It needs to be smashed first otherwise you're helping it and that's degenerate
>>77355759
>religion never changes
Interpreting a religion differently didn't change the actual religion, assuming their God(s) is real.
You're not providing any argument for morality existing without religion, even if what you were saying is true in this post.
>>77355867
>i meant, just socialize, work with people, talk to people, and you'll realize what's right what's wrong
If you did those things in Saudi Arabia, you'd be executing gays and believe it was moral. The general consensus has absolutely NO impact on objective morality. Look at the 'morality' of most Asian countries. The Middle East. All different.
>>77355722
Everyone who has had kids on here says it's great. I never hear someone saying that they regret it. It's like everyone needs to brainwash themselves that they are glad they made that decision and can only survive in an echo chamber. Saying I can't criticize having children because I'm not a parent is like saying I can't criticize Islam because I am no Muslim.
Maybe I'd have more faith and consider this less of a shilling if some people who regretted it spoke up. When 100% of people with exhibit A plead for you getting exhibit A, it should make you go hmmm
>>77355628
How do those sound similar at all? You wanted an explanation; that's your explanation. I also can't explain to you exactly why mastering a craft is satisfying. It's simply an innate part of being human. You don't feel the need to pass on yourself to another generation yet, and so you don't know the feeling.
Jesus Christ, it's like trying to explain the birds and the bees. It's not a difficult topic, guy.
>>77355883
i would be okay with not being born
>>77355883
Well this is the stupidest thing I've read all week
>>77353220
I work in a nursing home as a CNA. You get some good ones, but the only thing 99% of other children do is count the days until the person passes away so they can argue over inheritance shit. Half the time they bring that fight to their elderly's rooms anyways.
>>77353160
My father is an awful, broken human being and he's lost all contact with both of his sons because of it.
>>77356017
Your plan for the future ends with you, and that's incredibly short-sighted and selfish.
>raising redpilled children creates 'more slaves for the Jewish regime'
Guess my home-schooling, homesteading, breastfeeding, non-circumcising housewife was secretly a degenerate the whole time, thanks for the heads up.
25 year old kissless virgin here
I gave up hope of a family a long time ago. Incapable of attracting a woman
>>77356126
>nursing homes are representative of the twilight years of all people
You're incredibly biased. Some families actually care about their elderly, though millennials are harming this.
>>77356022
Different interpretations of a religion lead to different moral points of view, and different actions.
>>77356208
If I can get some you can faggot.
>>77356168
Have they interacted with the outside world? Ate they going to college? Congrats they're brainwashed.
The only way to do what you're saying before killing the overmind is to go Amish
>>77348146
>i reckon
You reckon from Hong Kong? *sage*
>>77356265
You mean boomers
>>77356022
>If you did those things in Saudi Arabia, you'd be executing gays and believe it was moral. The general consensus has absolutely NO impact on objective morality. Look at the 'morality' of most Asian countries. The Middle East. All different.
ah man, so i have to force myself to believe in one religion ? naturally, i don't believe in any of them. i wish life wasn't this tough, the internal conflicts and shit.
>>77355067
at least you can always send them north and get rid of them
>>77356147
That's your side of the story... and maybe both of his sons are fags.
>>77356370
Nah, I'm too unattractive, autistic and shy to be able to.
>>77356276
Yep. And if that religion's God(s) exist, what the people choose to believe have no impact on what is objectively true or false.
Still no argument for atheistic morality from you.
>>77356378
>le homeschooling means your kids can't be socialized meme
They won't be going to college unless their passion in life requires them to do so, which is very unlikely, considering I'll be reminding them their whole lives about how big of a waste of time and money that college is.
Functionally, our lifestyle isn't strikingly different from the Amish. I think the Amish shitpost less, though.
>>77356501
You don't HAVE to, you just can't have objective morality without it.
>>77356552
There's nothing that can break a man's dreams like unwanted children and paying child support, anon.
>>77354921
You're so close minded its unreal. Im white and i've lived in Dubai, Singapore and now Hong Kong. What I've learnt is in the grand scheme of things race doesn't mean shit. And who cares about about that sort of crap when it comes to kids? Just let people do their own shit and live the way they want to.
>>77356022
You don't seem to realise that Christians were once drowning women for having warts, cutting people's heads off, and generally doing muslim-tier crap to other people
Normal, developed people behave the way they'd like to be treated
Tribalism being dead is the reason why the west is being flooded with niggers
>>77356594
>You don't HAVE to, you just can't have objective morality without it.
i just feel wrong. and the only thing i have to be right is to submit myself to one religion, which i fear. i fear limits.
>>77355928
>>77356147
Your father loves you, idiots. It's the same reason why some parents go ballistic when their children come out as gay, it's conflicting something they love with something they hate.
In the end, they love you. They only say things like that because it's hard for them to deal with it. They won't just say that out of the blue.
And likewise, you should show respect for them. You people are the reason we have Father/Mothers day, so people like you can take a hint that you should thank them that you're able to be here to argue with me right now.
>>77356050
Or maybe it should make you change your ways and quit being a skeptical fag? Your mindset changes. It's impossible to actually visualize it without experiencing it first
I would love to have kids but there is one serious problem
>no gf
>>77356850
See
>>77356594
If God is real, how humans act has no impact on what is objectively moral/immoral. Because religion is necessary for objective morality does not mean its followers cannot do anything immoral.
>>77356944
I get it. Good luck.
>>77356656
I have 2 children and pay child support for both of them... still don't blame them for the system or the cunt who takes advantage of it though. It's the cunt mother who probably brainwashed that guy and his brother into thinking their father was a "terrible human being" when you know full well it's the other way around.
>>77356418
da fuk?
>>77356594
A sense of right and wrong is indoctrinated between age 2 and 6, and types of conscience differ vastly depending on the upbringing. Not all people who are religious are moral, and not all who aren't religious are amoral beings. Being religious is actually correlated in children with being less generous (and that one is a scientific study).
morality is based on how well we recognize expression and emotion in other people (not necessarily visually) and are able to feel that pain ourselves. Mirror neurons are incredibly important for this.
Some people are unable to understand morality on any other level than intellectual and those people are sociopaths. However, not all atheists are sociopaths. Morality also comes from the ability to regulate behaviour. People with destroyed frontal lobes can survive but become very amoral.
>>77356594
>>77356594
Oh god, you'll be the dad whose kids are so repressed that they become crazies as teenagers. Drug taking, whoring it up, passing out drunk you name it all at the tender age of 16.
>trying to raise a daughter
<in the current year
>>77352664
Jeez, what a cuck.
>>77348146
Yes I would and will. Things that keep me hesitant:
>QT right wing non-degenerate girlfriend (please Kek send me a high test Christian Persian)
>Finances, kids are expensive, if money was no concern I'd legit pump out more kids than Genghis Khan
>>77357097
You're posting from Hong Kong and using western slang... trying to suggest we don't have children when your country multiplies faster than the tribbles from star trek. kek
>>77357040
>I get it. Good luck.
what. that's it ? come on, enlighten me more.
>>77357398
Yes, he may be a cuck but you still have to go back.
>>77356979
>being skeptical
>a bad thing
Wew lad
I guess we are done talking.
As for whether or not there is such a thing as objective morality, I suppose you look into the fucking entire field of moral philosophy.
>>77348146
I envy you. Have two kids. Stuck with a bitch for he sake of raising my kids. Luckily my youngest will be 18 she I'm 42. (28) now. Then I can bail.
I wish I could go back. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I have one and I'm having another
>>77356979
Thank them for what? Making a life crippling mistake. Why should I be happy because my father fucked up and ruined his life?
Besides, the world is made up of different people. Im glad you're able to love your children, but others just don't and that's what it is.
>>77357408
I'm western mate, so no shit i use western slang.
>>77357205
Even if that was true (it's not, of course), that's no different from public schooling and two-income households. So, at worst, nothing lost. At best, redpilled children.
>>77357185
None of the things you're talking about are a logical argument for morality being objective. In fact, you're supporting my point:
>"types of conscience differ vastly depending on the upbringing."
>>77357443
I prefer to lead by example. There's nothing anyone can say to convince a skeptic about religion, and I'm not one to force it. Try different churches in your area and research a lot.
>>77357609
If you really feel that way you should just divorce her
>>77357714
And pay child services? That shit cripples people
>>77357769
30% of your income doesn't already go to your wife and kids? If so then you're scum and deserve worse
>>77357609
This guy is a nigger... Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>77357658
>morality being objective
Your argument is that it's based in a god, an argument that I reject because there is no proven existence of god
The closest thing we have is the so called word of god, the bible, which is up for interpretation according to you
I say the best sample we have to study morality is humanity in itself, not a god that doesn't exist and whose objective morality we can't even know since you say the closest inkling of truth we have is up to interpretation.
When I say said human sample shows morality without needing to believe in a god, you go full retard and say that proves nothing.
>>77357769
Listen nigger, you need to accept what you are and use nigger tactics against your nigger ex-wife.
>You divorce her because she's too old (nigger move).
>She butt fucks you through child support, hard (nigger move).
>You make yourself an unhireable piece of shit so you have an excuse not to pay it (nigger move).
You're welcome.
>>77358120
>I say the best sample we have to study morality is humanity in itself
Then you're already admitting that people invented morality. And, by extension, that it isn't (and can never possibly be) objective. What people 'think' or 'feel' about morality doesn't make it right or wrong.
>>77357029
My parents still think I'll start a family one day. I've considered just telling them I'm an autist who has never even kissed anyone, but I think that might crush them
>>77358232
Slow down m80, it ain't me, but still. Money getting drained is never fun
>>77348146
Yes, I have even found a woman that I wanted to has expressed fantasies about having kids with me, however due to unfortunate turn of events I had leave her recently.
>>77357593
Hey dumbass, I wasn't talking about objective morality. Look at the IDs, we use them for a reason.
Also, if you actually believe that people claiming to enjoy their children are projecting, that's just stupid. You don't have children and are already set on a different side of the argument, so why would you have anything but a skeptical opinion about it all in the first place? Stop making asspulls.
>>77357627
If you actually believe that, then why haven't you killed yourself? According to you it's the best route to take at this point.
Oh wait, I know. It's because you don't actually feel that way and you know your father would be in a worse position if that happened, or if he never had children to begin with.
Everyone should love their children and anyone who doesn't will find it hard not to.
>>77348146
Yes, just trying to find the right man to breed with
>inb4 tick tock
Don't I fucking know it
>>77350176
>jealous of stock photos
>>77358503
Yeah good luck
>but I'm scared it's too much responsibility
>but taking care of the kids is your job, never mind we need your wage too to keep the roof over our heads
>oh no now you no longer have the pristine body of a 23 year old, better go fuck other bitches
>>77349945
then you raise them Christian and teach them to hate the kikes
>>77358478
I never said that, you're making a huge leap of assumptions there, he doesn't love me and that's fine. I made his life worse, yeah, but I don't feel guilty about that. That's his own mistake. I'm just not going be like "hey pops, remember the giant fuckup you made? Good job on that!"
>>77357921
I'm Irish m8
>>77358338
I already told my parents that I'll probably never start a family and they were pretty chill about it. They basically said "never say never but k" and they never touched the subject again. They probably still have some hope left, whereas I've lost it all. The feel of no gf didn't go away though and it haunts me every night and day.
Stay strong britbro, you're not alone.
>>77358350
Of course it's not, but that isn't the kid's fault... blame the Zionist jew who set up this system and for the weak women to take advantage of it. They use divide and conquer tactics everywhere, even inside our families... through the school system and other "systems" that financially encourage families to break up or multiply to numbers they can't possibly afford without government help.
Again, my advice to EVERYONE WHITE is to use nigger tactics to beat them. Fight fire with fire.
>Fuck and have as many WHITE kids with as many WHITE women as you can.
>Get facial tattoos, guage earrings, piercings, etc so that you are an unhireable scum bag who couldn't get a job if he/she wanted to (typical Bernie Sanders voter).
>Support your huge WHITE FAMILIES with the government support paid for by the tax paying niggers who stole OUR jobs.
I've just given you all the plan to victory, and it's a damn easy one... easy enough for those sub-humans to do it well enough to defeat us.
Everybody thinking having children is something sacred and the greatest thing ever that you should burn in hell for not doing disgust me. Yeah, ok you have your instincts that tell you to think like that, don't make it as if it something more. After all humans have this advantage over other animals to get ideas about things, why would they suddenly stop thinking when it comes to children? All you do is clog up this world with more mouths to feed, that is not wise at all. Why won't you use your instincts in the right way and think about the future populations that will have to deal with resources distribution that will eventually get really difficult. Oh right, that is because you are selfish by relying on 'muh feelings' which is, in fact, your instinct. Having children really shouldn't be a human right and ought to be control wisely.
>>77359215
*controlled
>>77358838
Yeah... the Hong Kong flag is an aussie and so is your South Africa flag..... ok.
PROTIP: You don't have to be black to be a "nigger".
>>77348683
Cuck city bitch cuck cuck city bitch
But for real tho I like the legacy of white people as being highly intelligent, creative and artistic, as well as being sociopathic warmasters
>>77353404
only if you raise them that way, raise them good and they can be semi-independent by 16 and fully functional adults by 18, if you still live with your parents having the same lifestyle you had in highschool past 20 years of age you are a waste of space
>>77349173
Just b yrself breh
>>77358814
How exactly did you fuck up his life? You have yet to enlighten me on your beautiful standpoint.
Or maybe if you actually respect him for making your existence possible and raising you, you could show that by doing something for him so he doesn't have to regret it.
Consider the following: Once you return the favor he might not regret it as much and the balance may be restored somewhat.
>>77359327
Im a white dude living here, ask me about HK or sth.
I don't know why it's so hard to fathom that white people can live in HK lol.
>>77358699
My plan is to do like my mom and aunt did and marry a younger beta who will be flattered by the attention. Both marriages still going really strong after 30+ years, even though in both the women are now the breadwinners - but the husbands are good intelligent men who provided for a good while, raised good kids and also turned really charming with age.
>>77348146
>tfw will probably never get the chance to anyway
>>77359589
this.
>>77359215
Why would I want to clog up the world with more mouths to feed and put more strain on future generations?
>>77355064
Aristotelian morality
>>77359215
>use your instincts in the right way and think about the future populations that will have to deal with resources distribution that will eventually get really difficult.
Which is solved by introducing birth control etc in 3rd world countries
ive got one
>>77353836
>it's instinct, buddy.
So is polygamy, but it's "degeneracy" according to most of this board.
>>77359458
I didnt, he did. But basically he fucked up his life and so he hasn't got to get what he really wanted out of life. He basically was dumped by his entire family so he lost basically everything he loved because he had me. Then had to support me and my mom, while trying to get a degree. Had to work his ass off just to make ends meet.
And you act like I never respected him. I respected him until he told me that he never loved me lol. That his life was shit because I was born.
>>77359215
>>77359667
Well, let's see
People who think like you now to solve those problems won't be around then, so how will that work? It's not like there's some natural way for you to pass down your knowledge through someone who could think just like you, act like you, and looks like you.. Oh wait.
>>77359540
Good luck funding/finding a redpilled beta, femanon, wish you the best.
I hope you are into mommy fetish or gentle femdom.
>>77359720
>a bodhran
Why...
Take him outside to play in the summer sun, faggot.
>>77359530
You're still a nigger though, just a white one... like the Bernie supporters here.
>>77359674
where to cop those ? any books you recommend ?
>>77357400
this, I want to have 4 kids like both of my grandfathers, but hell money is tight this days, still I would probably still have atleast one... If I cannot get a GF I will sure as hell get a surrogate mother and just make little clones of myself via In vitro, and raise atleast two little shits that will get me a heart attack by 40 without any regrets [spoiler]except the hospital bill for a triple bypass or something[/spoiler]
>>77359999
"Instinct" is a bad argument desu. Our instincts are to be self-indulgent and to live as easily as possible. Traditional marriage and parenthood are sacrifices that remove our freedom and our comfort, but which allow us to be a part of something bigger and more grand than ourselves and our own pleasure. Tradition makes us super-human and elevates us above animals.
>>77360239
It was rainy m8
>my older brother named me his son's godfather a week ago
>tfw when you realize family is more important than anything
Before there were states, kingdoms, cities, villages and tribes there were families.
There're things at work trying to destroy the oldest of all human institutions so we all end up as individuals with no real connection with one another.
Unless you had really fucked up parents remember they think of you as the most important person in their lives, as will you with your sons.
Some ideologies came from people who cared nothing for family, see Karl Marx who failed to provide for his family and most of his children died for it. On the other side of the road, Ayn Rand didn't even have children.
Don't follow the principles of people with no roots, they care not for humanity.
>>77360476
Shhhh
Go to the mall
Watch porn
Post on Facebook
Shop online
Order takeout
It will all be ok....
>>77348146
They will succeed your family's name. Don't you want to have a long lasting family legacy?
>>77353160
Bringing a person into existence for one's own happiness is extremely selfish. You're forcing the kid into a lifetime of work, misery, loss, repetition and death, all for your own happiness. Incredibly selfish
>>77357913
this, althought I would be like my dad really, he has nothing to his name, everything from the dog to the house have my mother, me and my other 3 siblings as owners... why do I think this is good idea I don't fucking know, maybe because I see it as the way of him showing/thinking that the only thing he cares about is his family
>>77348146
>Would you ever have kids?
Yes. Maybe I'm just too much in love with myself but I can't wait to have a little version of myself running around.
Ever since my brother became a father my opinion changed 180° when I held my nephew in my hands. It's incredible when he is looking up to me because there is a small person totally entrusted to you and believing nearly everything you say.
The strangest thing is when he is showing his father's mannerism. I never had a smaller brother and my older brother was 11 years older than me so he was never in my age range. But with his kid now it's like I get to be the big brother with a childlike version of him. Strange and terrific at the same time.
