Are all "alt-right" people attention whores?
>Know this girl from college
>conservative supporting Rand
>Trump enters race
>She gets pissed I support him and oppose BLM
>Gets mad when I insult Muslims
>stops talking to me for a while when I mention nationalism as a good thing
>Check her Twitter a few months later
>It's all pro-Trump, anti-BLM, anti-Muslim stuff
>huge following from beta orbiters and Milo supporters
>uses terms like Aryan (she's non-white) even though she used to get mad at me for things like that
I just don't get these "alt-right" people.
What makes alt-right different from right wingers? It's like they're the people that try to be edgy but don't back up their words with action.
Anyone?
>>77294597
After years of repression and increasingly anti-white sentiment, people finally gathering the courage to shout "I'm WHITE AND PROUD you fucking lesser races!" is like a dam bursting. We're going to see the movement grow and grow.
Whites CREATED WESTERN CIVILIZATION, for fuck's sake. The single greatest human achievement is something to be PROUD of, not ashamed of, and certainly nothing to "apologize" for.
And let's face it, the lesser races haven't accomplished shit; whites and far-east asians are the master races, and all the others were literally pulled out of the stone-age BY US to come along for the ride. They should be THANKING US.
They will learn their place, soon enough...
>>77294597
>"alt-right"
There's that word again
>>77294597
It's not alt-right people, it's stupid women. They're natural followers and really flip-flop on ideals.
>>77294597
She's just not into you dude. Go back to luring your mom into the basement and fucking her silly.
>>77294597
>>77294994
>>77295243
Fuck off
I understand Alt in Alt Right mean alternative lifestyles.
And funny how it sounds, being conservative traditionalist Christian is now considered alternative considering how many cuckservatives are there with no moral values who pander to degeneracy of our societies.
>>77295787
But I am non-white and WE created civilization.
>>77295787
learn more history.
>>77296221
>>77296249
reply
>>77296221
no it was WE
WE WUZ
>>77296332
Get out troll
>>77296484
Actually MY people did. I'm brown, we created Sumeria which was the first civilization ever. We also had the Roman Empire.
>>77295936
I mean, they use it. I don't see the difference
>>77296004
It's not about her liking me. I turned her down because I don't want non-white children.
>>77296644
How are Sumeria and Roman Empire connected? Unless you're offspring of Arabian and Italian and you want to claim both of those ancestries.
>>77296793
I'm Sicilian which is Roman + Arab + Berber. That includes almost the first 7 civilizations.
>>77296950
Damn son, you are the true kang.
>>77297013
Exactly!
>>77296644
Stop taking credit for things you had nothing to do with personally. Take pride in your own personal achievements.
>>77297194
What personal achievements?
>>77294597
>Are all "alt-right" people attention whores?
No, but women are,
I am honestly worried if you even had to pose this question.
>>77297304
Exactly.
Just another "we wuz kangz".
>>77297563
I was depressed before I became racist. Now hating on niggers makes me feel proud and lucky to not be one. I will continue feeling pride in Rome and all that because I don't want to go back to having no self esteem.
>>77297678
At least you LARP as a Roman legionnaire.
>>77297678
Yes, continue stealing credit from people thousands of years ago.
A literal "kangz" tactic
>>77297885
Ok it may be pathetic but I'd rather that than going back to how I was before I was racist. I had suicidal thoughts for being a 28 year old virgin and being unable to find a job but finding out I descend from Tuscan royalty and that I descend from Romans made me feel so much better about myself.
> are women attention whores?
Hmm...
>>77298093
You story reads exactly like those "we waz kangz" afrocentrics.
This is /pol/ btw. Not /r9k/. I don't care about your "depression" and "virginity"
The idea of an alternative right is supposed to represent people who have seen the problems with the status quo and are thinking about a new way forward with a right-wing set of morals, distinct from all the tired and toned-down arguments of the old right. What the 'alt-right' has become is a load of idiots spouting arguments about race and politics without a moment's thought, just spewing memes and feeling pleased with themselves for being edgy. I think the central problem is a lack of leadership- most people just want to feel accepted and that's fine, but to run a movement you need people who will get those people on the same page and pointed toward an actual goal. And in current year everyone thinks they're special and so clever and doesn't want to be lead, so the whole thing is boiling down to a load of memes and stupidity while the status quo carries on regardless
>>77298438
and i dont care about your "muh stop taking credit" meme, pls go.
Oh look, same thread again
>>77298579
Well, stop taking credit then. You are not a "kang"
>pls go
It's you who needs to go.
>>77298697
I don't care about a bogan/niggers opinion.
>>77298597
sure bud
>>77298817
You must care because you keep replying
>>77296644
> We also had the Roman Empire.
Latin master reporting !
WE WUZ ROMAN N SHEIT
Not you Jamal.
>>77298967
I am Latin.
>>77297102
Sicilians are the niggers of Itlay.
i think i know who this is, is it michelle (@6666913 on twitter)?
>>77299270
>Biggest dicks
>Get the women
>Don't have to work like wagecucks
>Nice healthy olive tanned skin instead of pasty ass cracka skin.
That's about right.
>>77299441
No it's not. And it's not just a women question I was posing. A lot of these "alt-righters" like Milo seem to be in it for attention
>>77299611
>>77294597
Females are attention whores
/thread
>>77299714
im not black tho.
The Alt Right is a loose association of third-rate e-celebs who circlejerk topics in mainstream media that are often talked about here for brownie points from you guys since 99% of you are fucking losers who will do nothing with their pathetic lives other than shitpost and post meme that no one outside your little hug box will understand. Read a fucking book ffs instead of allowing yourself to be duped by shitty infographs.
>>77294597
No, attention whores become alt-right because they're attention whores
>>77299847
Yes, you are. You're Sicilian.
>>77299853
Upvoted.
#FeelTheBern
>>77299974
Ok well then clearly blacks are a lot smarter because if you've seen Godfather you'd know they cucked the whole city into funneling money to them.
>inb4 its just a movie
It's based on real Mafias and Al-Capone had complete control of Detroit and Chicago.
>>77299853
It often feels like we lay the groundwork for what thes e-celebs post about
>>77294597
No you dont get women
>>77294597
>The the facts change my opinion changes, and you sir?
Grow up.
>>77300235
Yeah, you niggers are super smart.
>>77296075
triggered?
>>77299714
>IQ tied with Japan
>>77300171
>can't refute the statement
>"lol go back to S4P"
Exactly my point. You can't argue other than calling people cucks and using shitty comics to articulate your non-existant opinions because you are too damn retarded to articulate them.
>>77300264
We don't lay the groundwork consciously, we, as a collective, just have generally quite similar beliefs about X topics that they pick up on, for example, immigration from shitholes. Most of us here agree that they should be fighting to change their countries, not fleeing to ours to get gibs. Any e-celeb can come by, take this, parrot it, and be rolling in cash now because of our collective retardation. It's no better than Anita ripping her talking points from Tumblr blogs or SRS.
>>77294597
1 O N E P O S T
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>>77300386
Sure buddy, want me to start naming off inventions?
>>77296002
This so much.
It's just women being women
>>77296129
it means you hold alternative views to other right-wingers, it has nothing to do with lifestyle
>>77294597
>conservative supporting Rand
one of these things does not go with the other
>>77299853
I'm an uneducated pleb, there's no point pretending otherwise. I'm trying to read up on things but I'll never catch up to people who've been properly educated. I see the people you call 'third-rate e-celebs' as other people like me who want to find a role in making things better. I want to get involved precisely because I'm sick of the /pol/ hugbox. If I try then I'm an idiot getting above his station, if I don't then I'm an idiot wallowing in shitty memes and idiocy. How am I supposed to get anywhere?
Of course, like most of /pol/. It's purely edgy bandwagoners that seek to show they're 'anti-establishment.' They're the same cunts that supported Nader, Kucinich and Ron Paul. They have no convictions. Only blind rage.
>>77294597
Its not an alt right thing its a woman thing, how long have you been locked in your moms basement, its like you never met a woman before
>>77300970
LOL edgy bandwagon idiot. You have no principles.
>>77300829
Good for you. I applaud your desire to better yourself. However there is a way of doing it without coming across as a fucking sperg like 99% of the "Alt-Right" (read: loose group of people with a mishmash of beliefs but unified in support of Trump) does.
>>77300612
There's nothing to argue. Breaking down your post is a waste of effort, I'll do the first phrase to illustrate.
>loose association of third-rate e-celebs
Alexander Dugin is not an e-celeb. But you don't know who he is. Instead, you'll google him really quick and then construct a strawman out of the little information you can glean in ~10 minutes about his work.
I don't give a shit though. You don't know the origin of the ideas spread here and think they originated from this board.
>>77295787
t. This guy
>>77300686
Naming shit you didn't make? I don't give a fuck, nigger. Al Capone died from syphillis because he was a stupid nigger who had his entire life's work dismantled when people began paying attention.
>>77300970
He asked about the alt right, not the left.
>>77301284
I don't give a fuck about your dumbass posts no one is going to read. I laugh at you snowchimps.
>>77301199
Dugin is not Alt-Right. He is a traditionalist conservative and Russian Imperialist. The "Alt-Right" again is a collection of kiddies with various beliefs ranging across the spectrum but are unified in support of Trump.
Being a Trump supporter != Alt Right
Being a Traditionalist != Alt Right
>>77301175
Well again, should I accept that most of the people I'm trying to join up with are 'spergs' (which they are, I'm not arguing) and make the best of it, or go back to feeling hopeless and alone and accomplishing nothing? The old neonat crowd wouldn't accept me and I wouldn't have anything to offer them, so I have to choose between the 'alt-right' or do nothing
>>77299098
You ain't Latin, you're a dumb Injun with a Latin last name.
>>77301080
Ok.
>>77301519
How would i have a latin last name if i wasn't latin?
>>77301516
Well you shouldn't wholly subscribe to a singular ideology. Hardliners are always the biggest dupes because they believe everything about X ideology. You should, like I applauded you for, educate yourself on a variety of topics and don't try and fit some shitty mold, be your own man. The whole redpill thing isn't about going Heil Hitler with your Natsoc buddies online, it's about improving yourself intellectually and physically daily where you become independent and self sufficient (or near it), or as (I think Aristotle said), either a beast or a God amongst men.
>>77301432
>I-I d-don't care
Stop replying anytime, nigger. You never accomplished anything in your sad life.
>>77301472
>Dugin is a traditionalist conservative
Alexander Dugin advocates for the creation of an ALTERNATIVE RIGHT-WING method of governance as a solution to modern international conflicts and globalization.
>I don't know what alt-right is
>I don't know where Alexander Dugin has given conferences or who he has spoken in front of
>I don't know any of Alexander Dugin's literature
Keep wikipedia'ing, you fucking moron.
>>77294994
alt-rights are just faggot contrarians that longer ago dismissed the need for intellectual consistency
>>77301858
long*
>>77301658
sure
>>77299767
where is this from
>>77294597
Is this girl Asian? I know someone how fits the bill.
>>>77301472 (You)
>>Dugin is a traditionalist conservative
>Alexander Dugin advocates for the creation of an ALTERNATIVE RIGHT-WING method of governance as a solution to modern international conflicts and globalization.
>>I don't know what alt-right is
>>I don't know where Alexander Dugin has given conferences or who he has spoken in front of
>>I don't know any of Alexander Dugin's literature
>Keep wikipedia'ing, you fucking moron.
>>77300612
So they are Jews
>>77301928
No, black.
>>77302044
Retard had a stroke.
Seems like this is more about women being attention whores than anything else.
>>77302044
I happen to like Dugin, the Eurasianist. Perhaps you are new here.
My definition is consistent with what we've been hearing from shills trying to tell us what we think.
>>77301858
This- a bunch of edgy 15 year olds
>>>77301472 (You)
>Dugin is a traditionalist conservative
He practically is domestically and through his foreign policy, are you denying this?
>Alexander Dugin advocates for the creation of an ALTERNATIVE RIGHT-WING method of governance as a solution to modern international conflicts and globalization.
His method is nowhere close in ideology compared to what the Alt-Right is supposed to be.
>I don't know what alt-right is
I do. It's a loose conglomeration of dupes like yourself who would rather sell their nations superiority to a foreign power given your huge boner for Dugin.
>I don't know where Alexander Dugin has given conferences or who he has spoken in front of
He's a writer and has worked with Putin and has formulated "Atlanticism."
> don't know any of Alexander Dugin's literature
How dare I not read every book by everyone that has ever lived
>Keep wikipedia'ing, you fucking moron.
How dare I use the Internet to further my knowledge and get a grasp of who you are masturbating to.
>>77302587
This
>>77301768
I don't see the alt-right as a something to join and just sit back feeling good about how I've picked the 'right' side. It's being taken over by people who see it that way but there's still enough variety of decent intelligent people that I feel I could add to in my own small way. In the end you could spend your life trying to understand things and shunning anything that looks like a group but eventually you have to bite the bullet and sign up to *something*, and I think the genuine alt-right as opposed to the dumbed-down 'le Milo, le make SJWs cry kekeke!' version could be for me.
>>77301669
You appropriated our culture.
>>77302676
The "genuine" Alt-Right is dwarfed though by Milo worshippers however. It's your choice at the end of the day tho dude.
things that never happened
>>77302614
shill it's time to stop
>>77302802
>da joos
Try harder faggot.
The entire Milo wing of the alt-right needs to be eliminated one day in a night of the long knives style event. That entire section is composed purely of histrionic personalities and fanboys/fangirls.
>>77295936
There it is
>>77302774
Well if I didn't enjoy struggling uphill I wouldn't be interested at all eh?
>>77296644
The first civilization < the best civilization
>>77295787
I'm pumped
>>77302614
>are you denying this?
Missing the forest for the trees.
>His method is nowhere close in ideology compared to what the Alt-Right is supposed to be
You don't know what his method is, or what the Alt-Right's "method" is.
>It's a loose conglomeration of dupes like yourself who would rather sell their nations superiority to a foreign power given your huge boner for Dugin.
It isn't. Try again.
>He's a writer and has worked with Putin and has formulated "Atlanticism."
Only took you 20 minutes to find his wikipedia page. That's not the most important work of his related to the alt-right though.
>How dare I not read every book by everyone that has ever lived
It's pretty pathetic when you act like you've pinned down a modern ideological splinter in the right-wing, but you aren't familiar with anything about it.
>How dare I use the Internet to further my knowledge and get a grasp of who you are masturbating to.
Keep going. Maybe you'll actually figure something out! All I did was call out your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
You can see that here:
>would rather sell their nations superiority to a foreign power given your huge boner for Dugin.
I mean, it's hilarious because Dugin advocates for the opposite.
>these people aren't credible I mean seriously you guise
>2016 being part of any politically incorrect movement
>t. not JIDF
Slide thread
>>77303260
It just feels like they piggybacked off of our work
>>77303387
Kill yourself. We should attack people for agreeing with us? Fucking shill.
>>77298487
The problem is that the silent majority that hold right wing ideals is the working class who have the most to lose when speaking up, losing their job, respect, etc if they aren't politically correct.
>>77303387
They did.
Just like niggers did with whites. Altright is just fucking niggers and most aren't even white.
It's the most blatant subversion of the right by the left I've fucking seen and because so many fuckers here are retarded /v/ kids who still can't get over they cant be progressive anymore they eat that shit up.
>>77303251
>You don't know what his method is, or what the Alt-Right's "method" is.
Then what is the Alt-Rights method? It's quite literally a group of disgruntled 15 year Olds who spam memes on Twitter. Does it have an endgoal? What is the means to get to that endgoal?
>It isn't. Try again.
How am I wrong, or are you going to sit here while the KGB pay you for shilling for Dugan (which no one even considers Alt Right but yourself)
>Only took you 20 minutes to find his wikipedia page. That's not the most important work of his related to the alt-right though.
>hurr you just looked it up on Wikipedia you dummy!!1!
That's not an argument and it doesn't matter if I did (and guess what I didn't because Dugin doesn't interest me).
>It's pretty pathetic when you act like you've pinned down a modern ideological splinter in the right-wing, but you aren't familiar with anything about it.
>an ideological splinter
It's not an ideology. It's a cancerous growth of memelords who believe in shit from across the spectrum (single payer Healthcare to anti-Immigration) unified by Trump. It has no goal and no means to that goal and thus is not an ideology. A good example of an ideology would be Marxism since it has a endgoal and provides a means to the end.
>Keep going. Maybe you'll actually figure something out! All I did was call out your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
That can be asserted without proof can be denied without proof. You are the only person who thinks Dugin is alt-right and you are doing nothing to prove this. If I do go and research him, then I get "lol wikipedia'd it nerd!!1!" aka "I'm a RIDF shill."
>>77303567
No. But they feel the need to separate them from ourselves. What makes someone alt-right compared to us? I'm just asking.
>>77301234
is mario maker the game for trump supporters
fuckin shit the eighties really is coming back
>>77303606
I'm speaking from a bong perspective here (4chan has decided to give me a clap flag but I'm in Wales)and really the working class doesn't exist here anymore. What we have is a lower middle class who are, as you say, terrified of standing out on their way to shit lower middle class jobs. What used to be the working class is the dregs living on welfare. The sad thing is watching the new 'middle' class cry for more foreigners to replace them and crash the welfare state they and the underclass depend on. Fuck, I don't know if I'm even making sense but things are not going well, leave it at that
![10258314_788746294552413_7633837104846460309_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZXWulQ0.jpg "10258314_788746294552413_7633837104846460309_o[1].jpg")
ITT
>>77304094
"racial realism"
IE. "Hello, have you heard the good word of the bell curve today?"
Instead of
"Niggers are niggers"
>>77294597
Women just adapt their opinions to whatever their current social group approves.
>>77304446
So they're still ignorant about minorities?
>>77304001
But is it worth bringing minorities over? For example, the girl I'm talking about is black. Do the pros outweigh the cons?
>>77295787
Finish this
>>77294597
>loving your country is a bad thing
Just nuke everything senpai
>>77294597
you're part of the "alt right", OP.
>>77304854
There is no difference. Alt-right is just a collection of ideas and ideologies that are right-wing, but an alternative to cuckservatism. This includes: fascism, neoreactionism, monarchism, traditionalism, and paleolibertarianism (which is now defunct, essentially).
>>77295787
>>77304854
>So they're still ignorant about minorities?
It's more like they know but don't want to flat out say it so they use a must softer way.
The only useful part is it makes it more palatable to people.
>Do the pros outweigh the cons?
Did the pros outweigh the cons of bringing minorities over the first time?
>>77304059
>Then what is the Alt-RIght's method?
I'm not here to give you a lesson on anything. And the question itself is fucking retarded. Might as well ask what is the "Libertarian method."
>It's quite literally a group of disgruntled 15 year Olds who spam memes on Twitter
>your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
I should have added insults.
>Does it have an endgoal?
It does have an endgoal. The means have been discussed back and forth between various writers and thinkers.
>guess what I didn't because Dugin doesn't interest me
>sh-shut up
lol
>It's not an ideology. It's a cancerous growth of memelords who believe in shit from across the spectrum (single payer Healthcare to anti-Immigration) unified by Trump.
>your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
The alt-right is a term that existed before Trump's 2016 run for President. Its most central ideas and thinkers have existed for a lot longer, and a collection of ideas/people on the right who disagree with conservatism as a sensible answer to liberalism has existed for even longer than that.
>provides a means to the end.
Marxism does not such thing. Read an actual work of Marx, /leftypol/. All he said is that "it's inevitable! it's inevitable because muh workers!" That's why there were so many different approaches attempted.
>RIDF!
Oh, finally.
>>77305603
But these people never mention it. >>77305941
Seems to get it.
>>77294597
>133 rep
>no pics of the said girl
nice b8
>>77306358
>They never mention it.
Read my post again. I'm not talking about YouTubers and famous people on twitter. Trying to paint the alt-right as gamergate 2.0 in this sense is pure disinfo shilling.
>are all women attention whores?
Fixed that for you and yes the answer is yes
>>77302936
Bad news for you bro, that's pretty much the Entire Alt-right
>>77306737
Yeah, we should be liberals instead. You opened my eyes.
It's not very often you get a thread on /pol/ where you get to hate on most of the people on /pol/. It's cool, I don't want them to change their political beliefs necessarily, I just want them to know why people think they're annoying.
>>77306057
>I'm not here to give you a lesson on anything. And the question itself is fucking retarded. Might as well ask what is the "Libertarian method."
So you can't explain it and are dodging itself to save face, gotcha.
>your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
I should have added insults.
Where is your proof that it has a coherent intellectual base?
>It does have an endgoal. The means have been discussed back and forth between various writers and thinkers.
Who? Where? When? What? Give me sources. Until then anyone can just dismiss this blank statement.
>your go-to method in arguments like these, which is feign intelligence and understanding through vague summaries and accusations.
ayy
>The alt-right is a term that existed before Trump's 2016 run for President. Its most central ideas and thinkers have existed for a lot longer, and a collection of ideas/people on the right who disagree with conservatism as a sensible answer to liberalism has existed for even longer than that.
Who? Also being a conservative or traditionalist doesn't mean you are Alt Right. That's like saying every Democrat,even the Blue Dogs, are Progressive Democrats.
>Marxism does not such thing. Read an actual work of Marx, /leftypol/. All he said is that "it's inevitable! it's inevitable because muh workers!"
He literally wrote about it in Das Kapital, The Communist Manifesto, etc. that Capitalism will grow into Socialism and then Communism. It is explicitly written in his texts. The belief in Marx's ideology alone is known as Orthodox Marxism. I can go on but clearly you are talking out your ass at this point.
>That's why there were so many different approaches attempted.
Saying Communism was attempted is the first redflag of an uneducated faggot. Communism isn't attempted, it's achieved, through a logical progression from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism.
>>77306912
You should kill yourself. Not for being a conservative white male or for any of the reasons listed in your screenshot, but for believing everything you read on the internet.
>>77306912
It's not, the problem is that the Internet is a societal cancer that has ruined a whole generation. The effects are apolitical, it has nothing to do with left or right wing and everything to do with a brain-damaging addiction that 99% of people have today.
Milo is creating a whole generation of Trump voting normie faggots.
Пoчeмy этoт гepб?
>>77294597
Probably, its the hip new thing to be from the edgier side of the humanity akin to Libertarians and atheist from the past few years. This brand is just especially meme filled and contrarian than the others it feels.
There's only one view that is truly conservative and traditional in this day and age, and it's ANTI INTERNET.
The Internet is inherently degenerate and must be destroyed or banned from home use, at the VERY LEAST for children, preferably for everyone outside of the workplace.
In case you didn't notice , almost every problem discussed in this thread on both sides is literally caused by the Internet and other technologies
I think Alt-Right is just a synonym for a conservative hipster who has lived off of his parents money. Also most Alt-Right people I know are the same people that make shitty comments on youtube videos. Those are the worst people.
>>77307095
I'm not hating on them. I'm trying to get to know them. It seems like the vast majority jumped on the trump train once he clinched the nomination. Then, they act like they've been there all along, and it runs me the wrong way.
>>77307532
Normie idiots voting for a (nominal) nationalist beats normie idiots begging for diversity in my book. It's not like they're ever going to read a damn book, at least they're pointed in the right general direction for a change
>>77294597
1 post by this ID
All alt-right people are like X
147 replies
Sage
>>77307301
>So you can't explain it and are dodging itself to save face, gotcha.
Do you seriously not understand how fucking stupid it is to ask what the "method" is for a collection of thoughts?
>Proofs?
The very term you're using to describe twitter posting was made by Richard Spencer, a writer that discusses ideological alternatives to the right wing.
>Who? Where? When? What? Give me sources
Here's Dugin's: The Fourth Political Theory (Russian: Чeтвepтaя пoлитичecкaя тeopия, Chetvertaya Politicheskaya Teoriya) is a book by the Russian political scientist and theorist Aleksandr Dugin, published in 2009. In the book, Dugin states that he is laying the foundations for an entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes the three past "theories" of liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.[1] The book has been cited as an inspiration for Russian policy in events such as the War in Donbass,[2] and for the contemporary European far right in general.[3]
>Also being a conservative or traditionalist doesn't mean you are Alt Right
Traditionalism is outside of mainstream conservatism and is described as falling under alt-right.
>that Capitalism will grow into Socialism and then Communism
That's not a method for implementing Communism, you fucking retard.He said it was inevitable because Capitalism couldn't sustain itself. He didn't provide an actual roadmap to implementing the communism or long-term survival.
part 1
>>77308007
I've been posting faggot
>>77294597
Alt right is good, because it's leaking /pol/ ideology into mainstream social media.
Teens take social media way too fucking seriously, so with enough younger people influenced it means the next generation will not be a bunch of nu male cuck liberals
>>77307301
part 2
In the Communist Manifesto, he just harps on about capitalism never surviving long-term and that the world's economy looking for new markets to exploit would sow the seeds of its death because workers around the world would unite in struggle. That's not a method. That isn't a plan.
He didn't talk about violently overthrowing everyone, using pamphlets to disseminate communist theory, global alliances of communist states for self-protection, nothing.
>It's never been tried before!
So you were form /leftypol/. Not only that, but you're a pedantic faggot.
>Communism was attempted
vs
>People attempted to /achieve/ communism
You fucking loser.
It's no one's fault but your own that you don't know the origins of the alt-right or its ideas. If you think I'm seriously going to give a fucking step-by-step lesson of alternative right-wing ideologies, their attempts at alliance, and the resurgence of identarianism, all over anonymous posts limited by a 1500 character limit, then you're a fucking idiot.
>>77308087
>Do you seriously not understand how fucking stupid it is to ask what the "method" is for a collection of thoughts?
There is a method for implementing Libertarianism, Marxism, etc. How the fuck do you implement Alt-Rightism?
>The very term you're using to describe twitter posting was made by Richard Spencer, a writer that discusses ideological alternatives to the right wing.
Ok. How do you implement it? Why should we support the tenets of it? What does it matter?
>Here's Dugin's: The Fourth Political Theory (Russian: Чeтвepтaя пoлитичecкaя тeopия, Chetvertaya Politicheskaya Teoriya) is a book by the Russian political scientist and theorist Aleksandr Dugin, published in 2009. In the book, Dugin states that he is laying the foundations for an entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes the three past "theories" of liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.[1] The book has been cited as an inspiration for Russian policy in events such as the War in Donbass,[2] and for the contemporary European far right in general.[3]
That summary doesn't fucking explain anything lmao
>Traditionalism is outside of mainstream conservatism and is described as falling under alt-right.
No it isnt. Jacob Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Peter Bone, Peter Hitchens, Enoch Powell, Pat Buchanan are traditionalists and are pretty mainstream. And I don't think any of them would call themselves Alt Right.
>That's not a method for implementing Communism, you fucking retard.He said it was inevitable because Capitalism couldn't sustain itself. He didn't provide an actual roadmap to implementing the communism or long-term survival.
He loosely wrote a method for implementing it. Hence why most leftists today hate Orthodox Marxists because they have no way of making it happen other than going off what Marx loosely wrote about.
>>77294597
It's her/your age group, not the ideology. You'll meet people that hold true to their beliefs and find their own values once you get older.
>>77307301
>Someone still worshipping marx in the 21st century
>Believing that the Hegelian Dialectic has an infinite amount of possible future systems
>Thinking that government seizing the means of production won't create a new bourgeiousie class which is the government in itself.
>Subscribing to an ideology which requires global domination as a starting point
>The communism is a state of being meme
>The "it's never really been tried" meme
Kek. Marxists never learn.
>>77308699
>In the Communist Manifesto, he just harps on about capitalism never surviving long-term and that the world's economy looking for new markets to exploit would sow the seeds of its death because workers around the world would unite in struggle. That's not a method. That isn't a plan.
It's loosely implied the method you dumb queer. Learn to look for context clues.
>t's never been tried before!
It's never been achieved. You can't go from a society with a state, private property, classes, and money to a society without either of those four immediately. It's a logical progression. If the USSR was Communist then why did they still have money or even a functioning state? Right. Also using a boogeyman is a sign of autism you dumb faggot.
>You fucking loser.
Ad hom you nigger.
>It's no one's fault but your own that you don't know the origins of the alt-right or its ideas.
>hurr I read books from a third rate political scientist
>durr I so smart xD
>Pootin gib medal pls!!1
>If you think I'm seriously going to give a fucking step-by-step lesson of alternative right-wing ideologies, their attempts at alliance, etc...
I know them and they all do not want to associate themselves with the Alt Right meme that you keep forcing.
Btw shills are trying to slide the threads, but Hillary Clinton and Obama recently had some documents leaked which proves they have been promoting the Islamic state as a proxy war against Russia.
>>77309686
I'm not a Leftist. I know of the theories and have read some books. I know that Communism will never happen and I would be the first to grab a gun and fight reds should they start anything here.
>>77309241
>There is a method for implementing..
No, there is not. There are political opinions, ideas, and beliefs. There is no founding literature for any of those ideologies that gives its adherents a roadmap to salvation like some religion. This makes demanding a collective or alliance of ideologies to produce a "method" even more fucking retarded.
>How do you implement it?
Implement what? You think there is step 1, 2, 3 for changing society, government, and international relations? Guess how the alt-right advocates for controlling immigration? By voting for people who promise to control immigration.
>lmao this fukken dosnt gib an endgoal xD rofl
>Dugin states that he is laying the foundations for an entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes the three past "theories" of liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.
Dugin lays out what this new theory contains and the problems it needs to solve. The alt-right's endgoals are solving those problems. Each ideology within the alt-right places different emphasis on each of them and how to solve them. Neoreactionaries think the solution to political manipulation and activism infecting government is to overthrow democracy, for instance. Paleolibertarians thought it was limiting government's influence.
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>>77309241
>>77309781
>No it isnt
Greg Johnson, then-editor of The Occidental Quarterly, stressed how Spencer's concept of the "Alternative Right" was to collect a variety of perspectives that are outside the purview of the American Conservative movement:[12] [Alternative Right] will attract the brightest 'young' conservatives and libertarians and expose them to far broader intellectual horizons, including race realism, White Nationalism, the European New Right, the Conservative Revolution, Traditionalism...
>>77309781
>It's loosely implied the method
No, it fucking isn't. Stop being a worthless faggot. He never explained ANYTHING on how to accomplish shit. He described communism almost as if it would be a naturally occurring event because he believed it was.
>B-BOOGEYMAN!
see>>77304059
>aka "I'm a RIDF shill."
>still arguing semantics
*****People attempted to achieve Communism.
There, you fucking autistic loser.
>A-Ad hom
see>>77299853
>99% of you are fucking losers who will do nothing with their pathetic lives
>I kn-know them..
Yeah, that's why you described them as e-celebs on twitter when they've been writing political theory for a couple of decades.
You're fucking garbage at this. I hope they only gave you 5 cents a post because this is pathetic.
>>77309395
And what is that age.
>>77310307
>No, there is not. There are political opinions, ideas, and beliefs. There is no founding literature for any of those ideologies that gives its adherents a roadmap to salvation like some religion. This makes demanding a collective or alliance of ideologies to produce a "method" even more fucking retarded.
Are you retarded or are you going to ignore non-Marxian leftwing literature as well just because it is convenient?
>Implement what? You think there is step 1, 2, 3 for changing society, government, and international relations?
Yes.
Guess how the alt-right advocates for controlling immigration? By voting for people who promise to control immigration.
I'm not denying this.
>lmao this fukken dosnt gib an endgoal xD rofl
>>Dugin states that he is laying the foundations for an entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes the three past "theories" of liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.
That doesn't mean anything to me other than its a mishmash.
>Dugin lays out what this new theory contains and the problems it needs to solve. The alt-right's endgoals are solving those problems. Each ideology within the alt-right places different emphasis on each of them and how to solve them.
None of those ideologies from NRx to Libertarian to Fascist will work with one another. Have you come fresh off the boat from Facebook or something? Have you seen all the hate Libertarians have been getting here and you still fucking think that they will all get together
>Neoreactionaries think the solution to political manipulation and activism infecting government is to overthrow democracy, for instance. Paleolibertarians thought it was limiting government's influence.
NRx is Fedoracore shit that no one takes seriously. The adherents of it literally believe they will become the new aristocracy that they seek to create once the Cathedral is torn down.
>>77310842
>Greg Johnson, then-editor of The Occidental Quarterly, stressed how Spencer's concept of the "Alternative Right" was to collect a variety of perspectives that are outside the purview of the American Conservative movement:[12] [Alternative Right] will attract the brightest 'young' conservatives and libertarians and expose them to far broader intellectual horizons, including race realism, White Nationalism, the European New Right, the Conservative Revolution, Traditionalism...
The editor of a cleaned up Stormfront said this...wow, so substantial, he must be a fucking genius!
>No, it fucking isn't. Stop being a worthless faggot. He never explained ANYTHING on how to accomplish shit. He described communism almost as if it would be a naturally occurring event because he believed it was.
It naturally occurring is a method in of itself you cum-guzzler.
>still arguing semantics
I wasn't though.
>There, you fucking autistic loser
You masturbating to shitty """""philosophers""""" doesn't make you right especially when no one mainstream takes NPI, Spencer, Dugin, etc. seriously.
>You're fucking garbage at this. I hope they only gave you 5 cents a post because this is pathetic.
K
>>77310945
This is my last post because all you're doing is asking me to give you history lessons on polisci.
>S-so what, I'm going to vaguely allude to leftwing literature that DOES meet my preconstructed framework of requirements for an ideology and demand it of a collective of ideologies!
>I'm not denying this
Then why are you asking for a method? The "method" to accomplishing each goal depends on the ideology, not the collective.
>doesn't mean anything other than it's a mishmash
Maybe you should fucking read the book if you want to know the specifics instead of asking me to summarize every point in a 400 page book for you.
>None of those ideologies from NRx to Libertarian to Fascist will work with one another
They're not meant to work with one another, you fucking moron. They're meant to find solutions to common problems and pursue whatever works.
>Have you seen all the hate Libertarians have been getting here and you still fucking think that they will all get together
>HURRRRRDURRRRRRRRR I DONT KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE WHAT A PARTICULAR IDEOLOGY IS HURRRRRRRRRRRR
Paleolibertarianism developed in opposition to the social progressivism of mainstream libertarianism. In his essay "The Case for Paleo-Libertarianism", Rockwell charged mainstream libertarians with "hatred of western culture". He argued that "pornographic photography, 'free'-thinking, chaotic painting, atonal music, deconstructionist literature... have nothing in common with the libertarian political agenda.
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>>77311422
>What's the alt-right?
>No, that doesn't count.
>No, I don't like that guy.
>No, this one doesn't fit with my strawman.
>It naturally occurring is a method in of itself you cum-guzzler.
a particular form of procedure for accomplishing or approaching something, especially a systematic or established one
NOPE.
>Oh, no I'm losing an argument! Quick!
>ANIME
>FEDORA
>MASTURBATING
>EDGY
>FEDORA
>Uh.. STORMFRONT
>SHUT UP
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>>77294597
"alt-right" is not a movement, it's a catch-all term for all the right-wing factions that don't fit with the mainstream leftist Neocohen cuckservatives.
>>77311536
>This is my last post because all you're doing is asking me to give you history lessons on polisci.
I'm not asking you to. But you are clearly no expert either. And you can go to bed Timmy it's OK you have school tomorrow.
>S-so what, I'm going to vaguely allude to leftwing literature that DOES meet my preconstructed framework of requirements for an ideology and demand it of a collective of ideologies!
....?
>Then why are you asking for a method? The "method" to accomplishing each goal depends on the ideology, not the collective.
read my posts above you dipshit.
>Maybe you should fucking read the book if you want to know the specifics instead of asking me to summarize every point in a 400 page book for you.
I don't want to because it's literally White Nationalism disguised as populism for the Common Man. Enjoy your dictatorship faggot.
>They're not meant to work with one another, you fucking moron. They're meant to find solutions to common problems and pursue whatever works.
Thus, work together to figure that stuff out. But I guess if the Alt Right is so powerful and coherent it'll happen naturally despite the fact that they are all diametrically opposed to one another.
>HURRRRRDURRRRRRRRR I DONT KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE WHAT A PARTICULAR IDEOLOGY IS HURRRRRRRRRRRR
I'm referring to /pol/, specifically with the convention.
>Paleolibertarianism developed in opposition to the social progressivism of mainstream libertarianism. In his essay "The Case for Paleo-Libertarianism", Rockwell charged mainstream libertarians with "hatred of western culture". He argued that "pornographic photography, 'free'-thinking, chaotic painting, atonal music, deconstructionist literature... have nothing in common with the libertarian political agenda.
Ok, cool.
>>77294597
If you call yourself "Alt-Right", that's not a good thing.
The movement is generally positive though
>>77311929
You seem really upset. I too could post childish overused reaction images but sadly, I like words instead. Clearly you have a pants on head retarded view that the Alt Right is a coherent, intellectual ideology when all the people supporting it like Spencer, Gottfried, NPI, are White Nationalist Organizations. Clearly, with the rise of Trump, they were smart and realized they can back their ideology with actual dupes like yourself to achieve their goal of power. All you did was prove to me that you are braindead and literally cannot argue for shit. If it isn't apparent to you that none of those ideologies will work together let alone tolerate each other and if you still think that the Alt Right is true populism for the common man, please, jump off a fucking cliff you autistic faggot.
>>77312038
>...?
You asked him to give you a method for alt-right to accomplish its goals, but the ideologies you listed as examples do not having anything close to that. They're just beliefs. Then you said, "Well what about leftwing literature that isn't Marxist?" as if that means anything. So what about them?
>I don't want to because it's literally White Nationalism disguised as populism for the Common Man. Enjoy your dictatorship, faggot.
Weren't you pretending to be part of /pol/ here>>77300612
>WE, as a collective..
Guess you dropped the act, shill.
>>77312049
But how does it differ
>>77312338
>u mad xD
>Clearly you have a pants on head retarded view that the Alt Right is a coherent, intellectual ideology
>Greg Johnson, then-editor of The Occidental Quarterly, stressed how Spencer's concept of the "Alternative Right" was to collect a variety of perspectives that are outside the purview of the American Conservative movement:[12] [Alternative Right] will attract the brightest 'young' conservatives and libertarians and expose them to far broader intellectual horizons, including race realism, White Nationalism, the European New Right, the Conservative Revolution, Traditionalism...
>dupes like yourself to achieve their goal of power
And put in place policies I believe in? Oh, yeah. Woe is me.
>none of those ideologies will work together
Not the goal.
>let alone tolerate each other
They write for each other's publications and meet at conferences all the time.
>c-common man
Kill yourself. I don't give a shit about shitskins or you in your "common man." Why do you think I give a shit about "true populism," you leftist cuck?
>>77295787
>we created civilization
no one gives a shit we care about now, not the past
>>77301858
"contrarian", for when you want to say loser but also think you're unique and intellectual
>>77300481
Nope. It's a fucking slide thread.
>>77294597
You don't get this girl and project an entire chunk of the political spectrum onto her. Know who else does stupid shit like that? Femshits.
>>77294597
>Are all "alt-right" people attention whores?
>Know this girl from college
>Attention whores
>girl
Surely you can put two and two together.
