>Gun control doesn't work
Keep telling yourself that, you dumb Americunts
>>77273643
>>77273643
>gun deaths still at 30-40% of their values despite "no one owning guns"
Wow, a massive failure
Post stats about death by emu.
So it looks like it was on a downward trend before the gun bans. The slope didn't change at all.
>>77273643
Use homocides rates you fucking retard
still looks like a lot despite nogunz
>>77273643
>guns outlawed
>people still getting killed by guns
>murders committed with other weapons than guns rising
Yeah sure Neil, that worked out great .
>>77273643
Homicides without guns followed the exact same trends.
Unless you mean to tell me that gun laws somehow had an effect on killings that didn't involve guns.
Didn't realize Australia shared land borders with other countries that could easily have firearms transported across.
oh fuck wait
>your move faggot
Homicide rate is the same if not higher faggot
>>77273643
looks like they were trending down before the ban and continued to do so afterwards
>>77273643
But your graph still shows people are still dying from guns even after laws are put in place saying you're not allowed to kill people with guns. So... doesn't look like gun control is working, mate.
>>77273643
Totally doesnt follow a preexisting trend or anything.
>gun deaths
Now post homocide rates and overal crime.
Also they shouldn't count suicides in those statistics as a lot of people would have offed themselves with or without guns.
>>77273958
>war on drugs begins
This triggers me everytime.
All Nixon did was coin the term, he merely continued existing policies and he abolished mandatory sentencing for marijunana (Reagan reintroduced it)
>>77273958
based white flag man
>>77274094
>omg people still get STDs even with condoms i guess condoms are useless
Crime in general has gone down over the last 20 years.
Attributing that to the gun laws is silly.
>>77273643
>you can control illegal gun and black markets
Gun Control is a tactic and euphemism for disarming your citizens so you can maintain a power and weapon monopoly incase your population tries to overthrow you.
fuck everything below the equator except for Israel and Argentina. Fuck Australia especially
>>77273643
statistical QRL test claims there is a significant break in structure
gunnuts B T F O
>>77274243
Condom manufacturers explicitly state condoms will not protect against all STDs, but liberal retards like you will swear up and down that once guns are banned, gun violence will never happen again. There's no comparison.
>>77273643
So on average 300 more deaths a year
Whats the average increase in death risk averaged out over a large Australiation population?
.0000000000000000000000001%?
Yeah that totally justifies disarming all the citizens and centralizing all weapons for the Government elite.
Also doesn't mention other forms of crime which probably rose by alot as they usually do when guns are banned.
>gun rates go down on an island
Wow! Try being landlocked with Mexico and let me know those numbers then.
>>77275185
Oh come on, we imported our biggest instigators of gun violence from Africa over 200 years ago.
>gun deaths
discarded
>>77275185
this LMFAO
same goes for britain, pretty hard to smuggle guns with no land borders
>>77273643
We had the same drop, only we loosened our gun laws and doubled the number of guns.
>>77273643
>Gun deaths
How scary!
>>77273643
>before
It was falling
>after
It slowly stopped falling
Ummm
United Kingdom: The UK enacted its handgun ban in 1996. From 1990 until the ban was enacted, the homicide rate fluctuated between 10.9 and 13 homicides per million. After the ban was enacted, homicides trended up until they reached a peak of 18.0 in 2003. Since 2003, which incidentally was about the time the British government flooded the country with 20,000 more cops, the homicide rate has fallen to 11.1 in 2010. In other words, the 15-year experiment in a handgun ban has achieved absolutely nothing.
Ireland: Ireland banned firearms in 1972. Ireland’s homicide rate was fairly static going all the way back to 1945. In that period, it fluctuated between 0.1 and 0.6 per 100,000 people. Immediately after the ban, the murder rate shot up to 1.6 per 100,000 people in 1975. It then dropped back down to 0.4. It has trended up, reaching 1.4 in 2007.
Australia: Australia enacted its gun ban in 1996. Murders have basically run flat, seeing only a small spike after the ban and then returning almost immediately to preban numbers. It is currently trending down, but is within the fluctuations exhibited in other nations.
Plain and simple. Gun control has no significant impact on murder rates.
>>77275590
>US
>recorded crime
If someone does not get arrested, no crime occurs. You could go around stabbing ten people a night in the US and as long as you do not get caught, no crime would be added to the stats.
>>77276004
I think you have Britistan and America confused, Achmed.
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>>77273643
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
t:Brazilian
btw only 1 post by OP the reddit faggotry is real
>>77274477
Why would you build a country surrounded by sandniggers? Do you expect to fight them all and win eventually?
>>77275836
>Gun control has no significant impact on murder rates.
UK murder rate = 1. No gun crime to speak of.
US murder rate = 4. Large parts of the country are an open-air handgun tournament.
Wake the fuck up.
>>77276244
No, really. Feel free to look it up, but if you have not already then why are you posting?
Good way to lower the crime rate. Catch less crooks, crime goes down.
>>77274477
Well fuck you too (((Israel))).
>>77274889
>climate change causes gun violence
Oy vey!
>>77274477
Did an aussie russel your jimmys merchant?
Also
>israel below the equator
>>77274477
Israel isn't below the equator you fucking mong
>>77274078
Looks like they were trending down harder before the gun ban.
>>77274477
Dude 31° North is above the equator. Also Chile is pretty based.
>>77273643
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>>77273643
Maybe it does. Don't care. Don't wanna become eunuch yurocucks like you guise.
>>77277478
>>77277501
ahhhh I dont know what to do!!
What do lefties even mean by gun control?
Waiting periods might be considerable, but banning certain weapons is foolish.
>>77273643
>1 post by this ID
It's easy to ban guns and take them from your people when you have a literal ocean preventing guns from coming in. We have millions upon millions of illegal guns coming from cartel-land down south.
>>77273643
sage
Now everyone gets stabbed or raped instead.
Our overall crime rates parallel those of immigration.
>>77277612
You forgot your pic
>>77273643
fuck you redcoat
they freed us from you cucks
london has fallen
>>77277853
you kids sure can dance
>>77279742
>implying the Mossad would be so careless if they knew what would happen
>>77280994
What the fuck?? How the hell is that image working??
>>77281184
Kike magic AKA thumbnail compression
>>77273643
>gun deaths are controlled by gun laws
what about homicide rate stupid fuck? people don't just use guns to murder
>>77273643
Not including the whole picture of VIOLENT CRIMES SKYROCKETING due to people having no way to defend themselves and criminals knowing you don't too so they don't even need a gun to rob you.
Not including the other avenues of violence going up in the form of stabbing, intentional car violence replacing gun violence. Are you any safer? No, worst off.
>>77281337
Ahh.. okay.
So image gets uploaded to 4chan, compressed for thumbnail in a way that hides the jew. Then onclick the uncompressed one gets shown?
>>77281449
Yep
>>77273643
meanwhile the violent crime rate and suicide rate didnt go down since for some odd reason if you want to kill someone you can still do it without a firearm
>>77274181
Good catch, are you a Nixon fan?
>>77273643
The US had the same decline over the same period, and we doubled our guns, so what now OPfag?
>>77273643
>Sixth largest global importer of firearms
>Australia
Pick both.
We have way more guns than these grabbers would have you believe.
>>77273643
Mental health problem =/= gun problem
>>77273643
>Including suicides as """"deaths""""
>Suicides by methods other than guns went up after the ban and continued rising for many years (have since plateaued and dropped thabks to anti-suicide efforts)
>>77276575
Whites in American don't give a shit about our homicide rate because we don't hang around black people
>>77276555
Because it was free.
>>77273960
The gun """deaths""" in the graph are nearly all suicides, both before and after.
Muslims gangs (and terrorists) still have guns. Normal people do not. People who have guns still commit suicide with a gun. People who don't have a gun kill themselves in other ways (and are no longer included on the graph, hence the drop in """"gun deaths"""").
>>77273768
you forgot to put it in the captcha
>>77273643
So, gun control had absolutely no effect, is that what you are trying to say?
>>77273643
>be part of the reason we bear arms
>mock us
Oh I am laffin.
Besides, it's not even an argument. They're a right not a need and it will never change
BIN THAT KNIFE
>>77273643
>>77273867
This
It's almost as if banning semi-auto guns made no statistical difference to homicide rates.
>>77282767
>Moortugal does it for free
>He didn't get paid by the Spanish king to move
>The Count of Moortugal did it for free
>>77273643
lets see this chart going back to the 70's
why does it start at 88
>>77281435
>17 year old stats
You need to learn to apply yourself, anon. See me after class.
>>77276575
>Wake the fuck up
He just posted proof that banning handguns didn't stop people from killing in the UK (Great Britain really). So how is he wrong?
>>77274078
This
it just shows that there is 0 correlation between when the law was enacted on gun deaths decreasing
>>77273643
>Didn't display total number of murders.
flawed model, gtfo now.
>>77285007
*and
>>77276575
England murder rate = 1
Northern Ireland murder rate = 0.9
Guess which one of these countries has legal handguns.
>>77273643
>Looks at gun deaths after gun control
>Doesn't look at total deaths
>>77273782
But they haven't had a mass shooting since Port Arthur, except for the terrorist attack, and the one dad who killed his family of five
>>77274780
ooooo, statnerd
>>77273643
You forgot to mention that Australians are cultured, civically minded, kind and nurturing people and as such commit far less acts of violence in general.
>>77274181
>>war on drugs begins
also its in the middle of the spike
it doesn't even look like it affected anything
Homicide rate pre gun ban 1.9
5 year average homicide rate post gun ban 1.9
Hmmmm
Ban assault browsers!
>Reduction in gun crimes reduces overall crime rate.
Keep telling yourself that, cuck.
>>77273867
1. No double digit mass shootings since the gun "ban"
2. Even with, at the time, the world's largest mass shooting, we have been on the same, steady, decline in homicides since the 1960's with no real troughs or peaks.
3. The gun "deaths" decrease is nearly entirely suicide related, BUT suicides in general are up
4. Australia had about 300, 000 firearms prior to the ban. The government was able to offer market value to buy them back.
5. Private gun ownership is higher now than prior to the "ban"
So many things make Australia irrelevant to the U.S. gun debate.
>>77274078
Your trend line is extremely off for the red portion of the graph
>>77285682
Why do people focus on mass shootings? They are largely sporadic and relatively insignificant to the total deaths. It's just media hype and fearmongering.
Why not focus on obesity, heart disease, smoking?
>>77277432
this
ban weapons bans
>>77285230
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
>>77273643
>BE BURGER
>GET SHOT!!!!!!!!"22222223123112312312331
>>77285007
>>77286082
The correlation is slightly stronger but still negative if you look at a log-log plot.
>>77286082
Because RANDOMIZED violent crime is what scares the public and is therefore what motivates political policy.
We have shootings here in my city on the daily, but it's nearly all drug related and targeted. It's expected and the victims are criminals so no one cares.
By doing the gun grab, they were able to potentially reduce the number of media attention grabbing mass random shootings which makes people feel safer. I don't even disagree with the laws btw.
Similar logic to the alcohol bans we enacted fairly recently.
Randomized violence in high profile city locations committed by alcohol affected individuals.
Shut down the bars and clubs...that violence stops. The violent crime rate in general doesn't change (the location and victims change) BUT it's not a middle class teenage boy being beaten to death in an expensive inner city location now, it's some Islander killing an Aboriginal in the outer suburb slums.
>>77286805
Sounds retarded
Australia needs to allow for more muslims in too.
>>77287289
Anti-gunners are pretty retarded.
They think guns can only be made in a fabrication plant and that gun powder is impossible to make at home.
>>77274477
Don't gas us based Schlomo pls
>>77273643
Australia has a population of 20 million. America has 380.
Fuck off, you limey dipshit.
>>77275185
What Mexico has to do with gun issues? America build its own guns and gun-related crimes is almost caused by blacks.
It's more logical to relate Mexico with drugs
>>77273643
Homicide rate required for statistic to bcce relevant
>>77287289
Not really.
If you're a regular citizen, you don't really care about criminals killing criminals.
You care about you and yours being killed by random violence.
If that means the rights of a minority are infringed, so be it.
See our political rhetoric on the Muslim population and immigrants too.
>>77275836
Nice cherry picking countries that support your arguement.
You are both dumb fucks. Gun crime will not go down unless the sheer fucking massive cache of weapons in the US us destroyed. Anything else is a waste of time.
>>77285230
How many mass shootings did they have prior to port arthur (not that port arthur wasnt a false flag in the first place stupid goy)
Why are you worried about what happens here? Don't you have some rape gangs to go pardon?
>>77288374
Homocide rate is basically the same.
What that chart ignores is that trend is consistent from the late 60's. They just start with 89 there. But if you started in 69 it would look much the same.
>>77289119
We didn't have many.
They were in a cluster in the late 80's and early 90's, primarily predicated on copycats motivated by media exposure of similar incidents in the U.K. and the U.S.
>>77275433
Underrated
The fuck are all these shills coming from?
>>77287616
>intcraft.online
haha the killer in the white shirt
with every shot he swiped his hand to the left like he unlocks this infidels soul for allah to receive
>>77274477
(((mixed feelings)))
>>77273643
All i see that it was declining before the law as well.
>>77273643
>be Bongistan
>show australian stats without knowing causation of them
>doesn't know that abortion was illegal in Australia up until the 70's (single mothers and shitty parents who wanted but couldn't abort children raised criminals accidentally/deliberately)
>the then 20 year olds in the 90s were the first generation where for the most part parents WANTED to keep the child (aborted the rest) thus creating less criminals/deliquency.
>there was lots of other factors that came into play too like normalisation and exploration of getting better mental health for example.
God i love libcucks. Crimfag here.
Everyone down here has machine guns illegally and they get caught from time to time. yet there are no sprees really.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/cache-of-guns-20000-rounds-of-ammunition-found-in-tullamarine-20160204-gmlx88.html
>>77273958
Yes, but that's the rate for ALL homicides. You have to look only at GUN HOMICIDES, because looking at anything else is racist.
>>77275550
Don't worry they overcame that limitation by smuggling in criminals instead.
>>77273643
WTF?!
Based off gun grabber logic there should be zero fucking deaths you sack of siht.
>>77273643
>gun deaths
How about over all violent crime dipshit?
>>77273643
Well seeing as the trend was already downward I don't see any reason to suspect the law had an effect
Australia doesnt have an African-American problem.
>>77274477
o vvey what have mexico done to you mr comerciante amigable
>>77273643
one posts by this id
sage
1. Shall not be infringed
2. More guns than people already so it's too late to ban them
3. shall not be infringed
>>77273643
we've also cut our gun deaths in half without doing any such non-sense.
>>77273643
Stop pretending we give a shit about crime rates. I wouldn't give my guns up if it would resurrect Jesus. It's about the principle of the matter. I have a right to defend myself.
>>77273643
Have a look at the sharp and cutty statistics mate.
Just because we can't shoot each other doesn't mean violent death has gone down.
Homicides were already on the decline before the gun control laws were implemented. No reason to believe they're connected.
Violence in the US has been on the decline too despite gun laws steadily becoming more lax in the past few years.
>>77290296
It's the same in that states. Is it really a coincidence abortion dovetails with crime decreases?
>>77291031
Same as our homicide and gun death rates.
Steady decline on everything.
Only real difference is suicide methods.
Like the anon above said; More jails, more jail time, better policing and abortions. That's what did the job. We'd be even lower if we didn't have Aboriginals or Middle Eastern refugee spawn.
>>77274477
template pls
>>77273643
>Britbong posting statistics related to...Australia
>not realising the US has this thing called black people
>Chicago gun control failure
>>77273643
>1 post by this ID
>>77281435
>>77285230
>But at least they're not dying all at once anymore... now it's just a steady stream of bodies.
>>77273643
It worked well in England.
Oh wait.
>firearm homicide rates all increased to a level greater than the pre ban in the decade after
>>77274477
what'd i do?
>>77279657
How is this picture accurate? Last time I checked about 60% of all homicides in the us are suicide.
>>77282209
>An expert says fewer than 5 per cent of imported weapons are for law enforcement.
>5 per cent
>per
>cent
seems like a valid news outlet
>>77286082
because that would make sense, dear anon. Plus then the Jewish media would be out of a job.
>>77291092
This is 4chan. Please use the socially acceptable term "nigger".
