What's going on with the RCP average?
>Why has Trump lost so much support recently?
>Are people really abandoning Trump due to this whole judge thing - or have they changed the methodology around?
I don't think this means Trump will necessarily lose in the end, but this is a worrying trend
Probably just the shilling that has been going on since the judge thing. Expect it to go up in the coming days since Trump's speech.
>>77226748
Rigged as fuck. I've never met a bernout who currently supports hilldog.
how the fuck should i know. looking at polls every day is pointless.
>>77226855
The majority of them are going to vote for her
>>77226748
>>77226748
If you knew a damn you'd know polls aren't about reflecting public opinion but influencing it
This polls are about 5-8 business days behind due to how they are conducted and the times and stuff.
This is from last week's judge situation.
>>77226748
Trump got a bump when he became the presumptive nominee, Hillary got a bump when she became the presumptive nominee.
>>77226855
>Rigged as fuck.
You didn't say that when he was polling favorably.
>>77226748
>>77227401
>Last /pol/ conduted on June 8th
Let's see how they look now after the shooting and Trump's godly speech. It just proved him right about the Muslims and he's going to snatch the gay and Latino vote
>>77226953
nope. the majority are gonna sit this one out. they don't like trump but they despise hillary for what they see as a stolen nomination.
t. have a bernout sister
>>77226748
Trump had said some of the stupidest things yet, in his whole life, over this shooting. 50 people are dead, and he's breaking his arm, patting himself on the back. No remorse for the victims, no support of the homo vote (which he could of stolen from Killary, easily). He just can't stop saying "see I are right, ban Muslims". The fucking shooter was born here. Nothing his ban could of done.
People see this and question his ability to lead. It's gross negligence at the highest level, and makes me question him.
I've been a supporter since day one, but his recent out bursts have me questioning why. The hill shills have been non stop here (and we can see them) think what that's doing every where else to the normies who can't see that these are bots/actors/paid dancing monkeys.
It's too early to tell, but I'm pretty sure trump shot himself in the face over this one.
WE need to push the narrative (spotted by facts) that Killary is the cause of all of this by her proxy war. Otherwise the world wouldn't have so many angry Muslims that are refugees.
I'm about to take a break from /pol/, the constant shill threads and the idiots who fill them aren't helping this place get back on track.
MAKE /POL/ GREAT AGAIN.
>>77227853
Pics of sister?
>>77228675
He talked about his father. A ban now could stop terror attacks in 20-40 years from now.
>>77226855
I see them.
They plan on voting HillShill because they are completely unaware of all the shit she's pulled.
>>77228675
>could of
You're not fooling anybody you obvious millennial bernout.
>>77226748
it will be interesting to see polls after what happened on sunday
Don't even bother looking at polls till after the conventions.
A lot of people are using these few weeks as a vacation from politics. The only people sticking around and filling out the polls now are the fanatics.
Good week for Hillary, she won the nomination, she got endorsments, and this trump judge shit was all over the msm
The outlier Reuters poll fucked it up.
>>77228675
>No remorse for the victims, no support of the homo vote
You didn't watch his speech.
>He just can't stop saying "see I are right, ban Muslims"
Maybe because that's one of his core messages he's running on? Nah, he's just dumb lol
>The fucking shooter was born here. Nothing his ban could of done.
His parents were Afghan immigrants and his father was an extremist with ties to extremist organizations. Every time with these terrorists it's the same thing with immigrant parents or grand parents. You cut the weeds at thier roots not the stem.
>I've been a supporter since day one
I really doubt that.
>I'm about to take a break from /pol/
Well it's your first day so I wouldn't call it a break. Don't let the door hit you on the ass fellow Trump Supporter(tm).
>What's going on with the RCP average?
A combined 15% loss in support vs Hillary across 2 of the polls in the average and the number of polls in the average dropping from 8 to 6 due to a slowdown in polling
Fox and Rasmussen tore Trump a new asshole
>>77227538
Delusional fuck.
>>77229668
You a pokemon?
>>77229633
> could of
> Nothing his ban could [have] done
Actually Trumps ban would've stopped his parents from entering thus stopping him from becoming an American citizen.
>>77227441
I was always skeptical. Considering the inaccuracy even in favor of Trump in the primaries, it's hard to say whether or not polls are a good indicator of anything in this election. This whole cycle had totally defied all logic and we live in an age where the world can change overnight.
And he's never polled """favorably""" in general polls, not sure where this myth comes from. What's interesting in the above graph is that despite Trump dropping, Hillary isn't rebounding. Would love to see what is causing that and what demographics they sampled.
>>77227538
If the poll was published June 8, that means it was conducted June 3-7 -- Trump will get big bump early next week from Orlando attack
t. RCP
>>77226748
Everyone says they want change but they don't in practice. Most people like the status quo. Mostly misantrophes, the bored and the disgruntled want change.
>>77229977
Holy shit I fucked around and got a quadruple double...
>>77227853
It's too bad your bernout sister is not a significant statistical sample.
>>77230121
>Polling from before the biggest mass shooting in US history
>"Significant" or "Relevant"
>>77228968
Right. But the way he did it, makes him look stupid and callous. Normies want you to hold their hands and comfort them. He's doing the opposite.
>>77229116
Not an argument
>>77229633
Yes I watched, it like when he said "I love my African American", he should of kept his mouth shut.
People like you are pushing people to Killary, because you make no sense. To stop this violence, you would off had to ban all Muslims from a country founded on religious freedoms.
But hey, ignore logic when it slaps you in the face. Don't you have a bunch of "correct the record" threads that so desperately require your inane shit posting in?
>>77229668
>Mexican Intellectual
>>77230279
Because American mass shootings are historically notorious for inflaming strong political movements.
>>77229116
>picture
keked
you forgot the
>fuck nu/pol/
I was telling you guys all along that Trump's bump was TEMPORARY. It is now over, and his numbers will only go down from here. I warned you, but you chose not to listen.
>>77230351
People like this are pushing people to Trump, and you're being willfully ignorant if you think otherwise.
>>77230430
>THE BIGGEST
>>77226748
>explain these
Your country is a cuck nigger faggot sjw infested shithole and you are a poor american
>>77230539
DO NOT SHRINK ME GYPSY
>>77229660
Or to show the math:
>Trump down 1.625% average across 8 polls
>2 polls giving Hillary of a combined 1% advantage over Trump fall out of the average
>Trump down 2%
>15% combined swing In Rasmussen and Fox
>Trump down 4.5%
Or if you' prefer
>Trump down 1.625% average across 8 polls
>15% combined swing In Rasmussen and Fox
>Trump down 3.5%
>2 polls giving Hillary of a combined 1% advantage over Trump fall out of the average
>Trump down 4.5%
A few weeks ago he was 10 points behind. Now that they're both their parties' respective nominees he's 4-5 points behind. Things will leep fluctuating and the gap will keep on closing for the next 6 months, he has plenty of time to catch up.
Stop replying to these threads, we had these threads daily for months during the primaries, then they started being tied in the polls and the shills stopped posting. The same thing will happen when Trump gets the upper hand again. It's all just concern trolling.
>>77226748
>1 post by this ID
it's like this every election. it will go up and down every time he does something good or bad and around debate times. just hope hillary doesn't btfo him in debates.
>Hillary gets elected
>law abiding citizens get stripped of their guns
>chimp outs happen
>refugees and spics flood the country in record numbers
>complete and total decline
>rape and drugs everywhere
>terrorist attacks every other month
>I won't be around to give a single bleeding fuck about any of this.
>>77229977
>that despite Trump dropping, Hillary isn't rebounding
it was the Curiel comments which have nothing to do with Hillary but are all downside for Trump with the general electorate (unlike the GOP primary electorate)
>>77226748
Trump fucked up with his comments about Judge Curiel, but the effects will go away soon. No one cares about that now though; everyone is focused on the shooting and the danger of radicalized Muslims.
>>77230351
you're a faggot
>>77230706
>trump gets elected
>spend all money to build a wall
>spics come in anyway
>spend money on deportation
>they come back
>by this time you are poor as shit
>get shot
>>77230791
That's one fucking expensive wall
>>77226748
Margin of error around 3.0
>43.3 = 40.3
>38.8 = 41.8
>What's statistics
>>77230791
>Be Gypsy
KEK
>>77230706
Wait where are you going?
Is there a nation out there that's better?
Seems like the entire planet is out to gut whites.
>>77230791
>spics are magical ghost entities that phase through walls
>mocks me about increase of crime because of the shitskinning
>proceeds to make a joke about getting shot, proving my point
Go back to herding goats and fucking your cousin toothless retard.
>>77226748
polls are designed to influence opinions, not gauge them
>>77230791
>spend like this
>poor
If Trump spends the nation's money on the wall by paying American suppliers, contractors, guards then it's just a jobs program for Americans.
OTOH, Trump will never be POTUS.
>>77230739
No he didn't this is ridiculous la raza ANYTHING is TREASON
No one says anything about blacks crying racism over white judges
>>77230938
Eat shit gay faggot
>>77231088
La Raza is Latino KKK, it's a hate group.
>>77231026
DEFEATIST FAGGOT
>>77231131
tfw America's military is the only wall keeping your country from being Russia
>>77231183
>implying I support or would vote for Trump in the first place
>>77226748
Tiny hands is losing his grip on the election.
I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE WHEN HILLARY CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
WHAT
THE
FUCK.
LOL BOOMERS TOTALLY DON'T LIVE IN A BIZZARO WORLD WHERE THEY AREN'T EVEN REAL AND CAN"T PROCESS THE MOST BASICS OF ANXIETY AS IF THEY ARE ALL BIPOLAR BORDERLINE PERSONALITIES FUCKWITS
>>77230886
>What is statistics
1. Average polls with differing methodologies don't have calculable margins for error
2. Margins for error aren't bounds for error and their value in the case of polls mostly comes from calculating statistical ties
3. While you can get to a tie by abusing both (nonexistent) margins for error, that's not a statistical tie
4. With polling like this generally the difference at any given moment is nowhere near as important as the trend
5. All of this is meaningless in the first place because polling human behavior is notoriously unreliable, you're better off following the betting markets which have a much higher accuracy
6. Hillary's getting 1:3 odds on betting markets to Trump's 2:1
>What's statistics
Not what you did
>>77226748
That's what happens when your own party stabs you in the back with leftist tactics.
>attacking a Mexican judge is racism!
>>77230351
>shit posting
You're very bad at this. Spend some time on 4 Chan before you shill
>>77231518
He's not Mexican, you fucking retard. He's an American.
>>77231620
He's a la raza national and should be tried for treason like every other la raza trash
>>77231603
Spend some time outside fat shit
>>77231620
Trump's shit at geography.
He thinks Indiana is in Mexico and NY is in Afghanistan.
>>77231721
He's not a member of the national council of la raza. He's a member of a bar association with the same name.
>>77231819
Which is affiliated with the National Council of La Raza.
>>77226748
POLLS DO NOT, AND WILL NEVER, MATTER FUCKTARDS. TAKE THE RED PILL AND REALIZE THAT POLLS ARE PART OF THE PSYOP.
>>77231183
All these people spouting "TRUMP IS FINISHED" "TRUMP WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT" every single day are never actually Trump supporters. They're the same people who said Trump had no chance to win the primaries.
they couldn't beat him, so they joined him, and will now all leave and denounce him , all part of their plan.
>>77226748
shills btfo
>>77231819
>He's a member of a bar association with the same name
Yeah which is affiliated with the national council.
>>77230791
We're already trillions in debt; how does a 20 billion dollar wall bankrupt us?
>>77231620
Oh yeah it's just a coincidence how he's a member of a La Raza affiliated group that also defended Mexican illegals...
>>77231892
No it isn't dipshit.
They have a link on their site but no official affiliation
>>77232002
See above and don't spout shit 5 seconds in google would disprove
They've changed the methodology, now they have don't know/won't vote as well as Gary Johnson and sometimes Jill Stein in polls which they have never done before.
Typical jewish trickery, Trump will see a bump soon enough
Wasn't there an NY Times article recently that basically said new, more reliable data shows that the exit polls from 2012 are bullshit?
And these polls are based on those exit polls. They underestimate old white people basically.
>>77230506
That's not what the polls say, retard.
>>77230745
And this is your first day here. Not an argument. Make one, contribute something, or stfu.
>>77231603
Dick breath, shills posts are the one you fill all day by replying to 1 post by this ID. I've been here since the last election and told you fucktards when mittens blew it too. You were all shiting yourselves over polls then too. Didn't work out so great then, but bury your head in the sand.
I've actually proposed ideas that would put trump back on top, but the words were probably confusing to a low information voter like you.
>>77231131
>Gay faggot
>posts sportacus
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Sportacus is ten times the man you'll ever be.
>>77232155
>They have a link on their site but no official affiliation
>>77230351
>"YOU GUYS MAKE NO SENSE"
Pic related.
You Bernouts have a monopoly on reason and common sense maybe you can enlighten me as to what's wrong with calling a nigger "African American"?
And religious freedom along with the rest of the constitution only protect the rights of American citizenry, not foreign immigrants.
>>77227853
Turn her into a Trump supporter if she is not a retarded feminist and still has some logic left. I red pilled my family when it comes to Trump and Nationalism.
>>77228675
said like someone who bases everything off of soundbites from MSNBC, Reddit, and daily kos.
>ohmagawd like the dead arent even cold and he like is like congratulating himself, like how could he do that ohmagawd.
>>77232313
>stfu
>low information voter
Hello Rebbit leftist.
>>77226748
I wouldn't bother with the polls until they debate. Hillary is winning because the media is shilling for her constantly. I doubt a woman with incontinence and frequent blackouts will debate well.
>>77227298
isnt America First a losing slogan tho, from 1940 elections?
>>77232366
>SDLRLA has not been involved in organizing any Trump protests, nor do we work in conjunction with NCLR. Furthermore, SDLRLA does not condone any of the violence exhibited by both sides of the protests taking place outside of Trump rallies throughout the country,'
They also have a link with the California Bar Association on the exact same links and affiliates page.
>>77232507
Those are trumps words, you worthless sack of shit.
>>77232313
>Heh, if I was running for president I would have this in the bag
Kasich is that you?
>>77226748
>>77227853
the same is true for my mom.
she even talks about voting for trump just to spite her.
it is a long time until November.
A lot can happen.
and Hillary always polls down for a reason.
>>77226748
Did you see his speech yesterday? This dude is literally a fearmongering demagogue. He can get fucked.
>>77232495
Actually dumb ass, it's what the norms are saying.
You'd know this if you ever left the basement or this echo chamber.
>>77226748
>Why has Trump lost so much support recently?
Because he has lost
>>77232594
>SDLRLA has not been involved in organizing any Trump protests, nor do we work in conjunction with NCLR. Furthermore, SDLRLA does not condone any of the violence exhibited by both sides of the protests taking place outside of Trump rallies throughout the country,'
>thinking this supports your argument
>"guys this latino BAR association with the same exact name as a mestizo supremacist group have nothing in common! it says so right here on their page!"
sure thing pal
>>77232959
Your pic is a little disingenuous with regards to Trump
>>77232877
>fearmongering demagogue
You forgot "vitriol" and "rhetoric".
>>77232914
>normies
>left the basement
>echo chamber
Why do you shills all sound alike?
>>77232313
>dick breath
>Not just calling me a cock sucking nigger faggot
God damn plebbit, learn to assimilate
>I could win this election if only Trump woud listen to my greatness!
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>>77233099
>The exact same name
>NCLR
>SDLRLA
Sure is the exact same name
>two words in common, one of them is "the"
>>77233216
We need a strong, principled, consistent, constitutional Conservative as the leader of the free world.
That's why I am now a #CruzMissile #NeverTrump
I was fine when he said some illegal immigrants were rapists and criminals, but him condemning the murder of 50 people is just too much for me.
>>77230351
>Tone policing
Fuck off.
>>77233216
Fine fucktard
You roodypoo double turbo nigger that was the ass birth of a candy ass faggot felcher.
I fail to see how this furthers the discussion, baka.
I've made more positive suggestions than all you ass clowns who claim to support Trump, put together.
>>77233241
>Taqquitos: (Taquito/[taˈkito])[1] is a form of Mexican dissimulation or a legal dispensation whereby a Mexican individual can deny their ethnicity or commit otherwise illegal or or lie about their intentions while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution.
Nice try Paco but I'm not some gullible gringo.
>>77226748
This is how polling data actually looks.
That website is bullshit, it doesn't even show error bars on their predictions.
>>77234072
Pretty cool that it has the future confidence intervals; what algorithm is that using? There's some that take into account seasonality and other things while others are just plain "dumb" linear regressions.
>>77233767
>>77227538
except his Muslim ban would have done nothing to stop the Orlando shooting. The dude was born in America, and his parents were let in by REAGAN. Ronny R confirmed as Islamic cuckold!!!
>>77234743
He is muslim. Muslims commit terrorism. Hillary wants to bring in million more muslims into our country. Come on, bruce. No one is this dense
>>77234743
It would prevent future problems, and put more pressure on them to stop attacks worldwide, so they don't get similar legislation in other countries. Also it's well-known that Reagan was pro-amnesty like the Bushes.
>>77234369
This is from huffington post,. so probably the simplest possible.
>>77234743
Trump's policies won't let in any more terrorist bearing children. That's far better than hillary wanting tens of thousands of "syrians".
>>77230930
Japan and South Korea.
>>77235291
ORR it'll further radicalise the 3.3 MILLION Muslims you already have, and lead to countless more Orlando-type situation. Trumpkins really are deluded in the extreme.
>>77235465
Terrorist attacks committed by refugees in America: 0. It's hilarious, you get so worked up about something that literally has killed no one, then when someone mentions the 9000 people killed by guns every year, the same people jump to the old "b-b-but, cars kill more people hurr durr, it doesn't matter". MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!
>>77237469
The Boston bombers were Checnyan refugees.
>>77232271
any one got a source on that?
>>77237229
Do you really think they would do this, only legitimizing the policies against them? You can't just keep getting walked over because you're scared that every time you try to stand up for yourself you'll just "radicalize" someone and make things worse. They didn't need that in Europe. We're not talking about invading other countries here, we're talking about protecting your countries' interests. People with this mentality are why the West is getting cucked, because people are scared to do anything about it "in case something bad happens".
Also I was just explaining why the idea that implementing a policy like this in 2016 wouldn't have stopped this specific shooting is irrelevant here.
>>77228675
Wow.................... really makes you think.............. ..
I am now a #cruzmissle
>>77229660
So is this a big deal or not?
>>77226748
The polls explain themselves, Trumptard.
You guys never had a chance.
>>77238146
Wow, 3 people killed by refos ever in the US. In the time since then only 27,000 have been killed by gun violence. I WONDER WHICH IS THE MORE PERTINENT ISSUE?
>>77238242
Of course, fanning the flames of religious conflict is exactly what terrorists want kek. Terrorist give 0 fucks about "legitimising policies". Openly discriminating against Muslims will only make more want to fuck up the US, that's a fact. Even Saudi Arabia lets Christians in for fucks sake.
>polls every single day showing hillary leading
>terror attack happend
>no polls for 4 days
>>77238974
Omar was the son of refugees btw. They got in on pity points when Afghan went to shit.
>>77239081
arise, polls, arise
>>77239081
ARISE, POLLS, ARISE
>>77239240
Obvs refugees are statistically safer to take in then actual American-born people, seeing as his parents have never carried out any sort of terror attack. Looks like Hillary has the right idea!
the SJWs won democracy is a failed libtard system
>>77239838
>liberals win
>"democracy is a failed system. We must chimp out and destroy our civilization."
>conservatives win
>"DEMOCRACY WINS AGAIN! The TRUE americans have spoken!"
how often do they do polls? I want to see the chance since the orlando homo genocider
Its because the reuters/Ipsos poll has double the point lead for clinton,
remove that and keep the other 5 polls and it's 43.6/39.6 so same old drifting around.
>>77238974
>Terrorist give 0 fucks about "legitimising policies".
Then they'll have to deal with countries taking measures against them. That's the whole point, you don't negotiate with terrorists.
>Even Saudi Arabia lets Christians in for fucks sake.
They wouldn't if Christians were as likely to be radicalized and attack them because of religion, they execute atheists... Guns are a factor in the US, but they don't prevent these sorts of attacks, especially at this point where there's so many in circulation.
>>77240148
But it is the liberals who is destroying the civilization with cultural marxism though.
>>77229668
>taco nigger
>>77226748
I say the GOP are fucking morons and that they are deliberately throwing away a good chance of victory because of "muh pride". Romney is a gigantic little baby who just want to see Trump lose because he said very very bad words. Total disappointment.
>>77226748
WTF IS WRONG WITH NORMIES! DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND THAT HILLARY'S A CORRUPT CRIMINAL FASCIST?!? WHY WOULD THEY EVER SWITCH FROM TRUMP TO HILLARY?!?!
FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEE
I can't wait for you cucks to commit suicide after Hillary crushes Trump harder than Reagan crushed Mondale.
>>77242416
>>77231819
I'm in the KKK bar association, but I am NOT associated with the KKK nor am I racist.
>>77232594
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/07/la-raza-judge-gonzalo-curiel-and-the-hispanic-national-bar-association/
