Question.
Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons? I know that handguns are really what is driving the death toll up and all but these leftys really are set on grabbing all AR-15s.
How would government grab the rifles? Offer a bit of money? Have busty girls in ads saying a real man will give up his rifle?
Won't gun owners just hide their firearms and the criminals and thugs just get their new weapons from a new black market supplied by Mexico?
>>77196491
>anyone can become mentally ill
No actually they can't. It's actually less of a choice than choosing to be a faggot. Nobody just decides to become a paranoid schizophrenic
>>77196723
Shit, that's the original. Here's a better one.
I am curious to how the government would enforce a weapon's ban though.
>>77196491
Because it's fucking irrational?
When I heard whoopi nigburg babbling incoherently about 'machine guns', it really highlighted for me just how stupid this whole thing is.
If you ban the AR 15, a fine rifle, what else are you going to ban?
This is stupid. Whats next? A list of government approved firearms?
I don't know shill, why don't you ask your kike boss?
>>77196491
they won't stop there and a its a matter of principle and the AR/AK is the sword of our times.
SHALL
>>77196491
It would cause a major ruckus if they confiscated any firearms. So what they would do is ban future sales of the weapon and offer buyback programs for people that have it now where you can give your gun to the police for a little money.
>>77197520
NOT
>>77197055
They wouldn't and they can't, the more guns we have the harder it gets, buy more guns.
Never let gun grabbers have an inch
They will soon want a mile. No compromise is enough. They WILL NOT stop until all guns are banned.
>>77197617
this.
They won't stop.
>>77197576
Not to mention if you build an ar off an 80% lower how the hell are the even going to prove it was before the ban date?
>>77197617
seconded
Well, I am glad I have and AR-10 instead of the AR-15.
>>77196491
Because the only real motive they could possible have for wanting to disarm the people is to do something horrible to us.
>>77197617
Just ask the cigarettes about that...
>>77197617
Third'ed
I don't own an AR15 but I'd like to. I have an AK-74 variant and I don't want it to become contraband.
>>77197975
INFRINGED
>Nobody needs a gun.
lol'd
Why not just ban mental illness?
>>77196491
>Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
Because we know from experience that they will NEVER STOP. They, like Islam, will give no quarter to those they believe to be messing up their Communist paradise.
>>77197055
It's physically impossible no matter what any intellectualist tells you otherwise. If they were banned tomorrow the next 6 months of police work would be spent filing reports of people losing their gun fishing, and that's just the people that feel obligated to report it lost
>>77198079
Why haven't we banned murder yet?
>>77197617
They have already taken a mile. NFA, Brady, etc.
>>77197055
most indians are too dirt poor to afford a gun in the first place.
these ads reeks of leftist stupidity.
>>77197055
What the fuck is this picture? They don't deal with it, they hope they don't get raped and very often they do.
What is this trying to prove?
>>77198175
I think the one about rape was a parody.
>>77196491
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Seems so dumb and reactionary. Like the dumb as fuck ban of pump action shotguns in my country, just because of one shooting. Yep you read that right, a ban of pump action shotguns. Semi auto shotguns and lever action shotguns are still perfectly legal.
What makes an ar15 different from any other semi automatic rifle?
Anyway, allof this is besides the point because shall not be infringed is a pretty straight forward definition.
>>77197055
>If the women in India can deal with the risk of rape without guns...
LOL! I have been to India on work related matters. I had to visit a sister facility for the company I worked for, the womens restroom has to have a key coded lock to prevent rape. This is not the standard in the area, this "secure" bathroom was the only one I came across in my trip there. When I went out into the city areas on my leisure time the company FORCED me to take a security escort with me in the event that I was kidnapped, and possibly raped and I am a man. Women in India don't deal with the risk of rape, they just accept that rape is something that is going to happen to them on a daily basis. And how is a condom going to deal with rape? Is the woman going to whip it out and say "before you violate me against my will, you have to put this rubber on".
The delusion behind this image is the reason why humanity is going to implode in on itself.
>>77197055
So dealing with rape means carrying condoms. kek
I own an SKS Semi auto assault rifle.
My father gave it to me as its been passed from his father, to him, and now onto me.
I took hunter safety as a kid, and my father instilled it upon me the dangers and responsibility of owning a gun, but also it taught me to be a better person because it also taught me restraint.
I bet this guy who shot up the gay bar had a father who never loved him, taught him what it was to be a level headed person, and had no respect for what it means to be an american citizen.
I tolerate gays. That being said, it was through my father that taught me that all people are different, and the person should be judged on their ability to further society through their work.
Banning assault weapons won't change anything. Strong fathers and mothers are the only thing that is going to change this "epidemic" of intolerance.
>>77197055
well, Australia is a bad comparison being an island and such, but what they did was first pass laws to restrict the sale and possession of all firearms (and swords if I remember) like crazy, then had a mandatory buyback plan in place.
after that, It becomes easier because they can monitor all incoming goods at their ports in a way that a country with borders can't.
>>77196491
Why don't you try opening a book and looking at precedent? Certain weapons have been banned before.
The ban usually applies to weapons manufactured after a certain date. The government has NEVER confiscated certain weapons after they were banned from sale.
>>77198339
One of the easiest ways to not get raped is just give your consent.
>>77197760
Watched a doc about guns in the phillipines today and it was pretty cool. Showed exactly why gun control doesnt work
>>77198386
Top tip retard: it didn't actually work, even here.
>concerned mothers
Literally a plague on society
You can thank them for everything from the 19th amendment to the current 21 year old drinking age to trying to ban video games and music with profanity
>>77198175
It's from /k/, it was a response to the first pic.
The media is going ape-shit with the anti-gun rhetoric though, Obama is probably going to introduce legislation or release another statement.
I can see the millions of gun owners resisting any type of ban, passively and aggressively.
ever heard of the slippery slope?
they wont stop at assault weps
if they come for your guns will america storm the capital armed to the teeth due to the govt shitting on the constitution?
>>77198648
I actually just got a 5 year NRA membership after seeing how hard the media is pushing this gun control BS today
What about this? Is this an "Assault Weapon"?
>>77198273
Really, the problem comes from the Founders not being able to predict that a bunch of faggots who professionally manipulate language for their political agenda would come along one day. If "well regulated" was changed to something like "properly functioning" this shit wouldn't happen again. Or if we just repealed the 17th amendment and had an uncucked Senate to make sure legislation like this would never be passed. We'd have a lot less leftist judges too because a President like Obama would get his appointee recommendations turned down left and right if the Senate represented the states like its supposed to.
>>77198364
>Banning assault weapons won't change anything. Strong fathers and mothers are the only thing that is going to change this "epidemic" of intolerance.
OMG you're so intolerant anon. That takes work and it's like you don't care about modern lifestyles you bigot.
>>77198957
Anything is an assault weapon if you put your mind to it.
Fuck that, even the countries with strict gun bans allow for hunting rifles. I could knife seven niggers faster than a gunman could shoot the same with a break action. All or nothing ideals are for retards that live in a black and white fantasy land. The real world is grey and gray. Quit being a faggot and stop the dogmatic retards if you want to help, but you'll need a gun for that first.
>>77196491
>Cold dead hands, motherfucker.
>>77198957
No cause it doesn't have the scary black furniture
>>77198957
Very nice, how much did it cost you?
>>77199103
>reverse image search
>>77196491
Remember when women voted in the prohibition of alcohol?
Remember how well that went?
What about this, is this an assault rifle?
>>77198586
i didn't say it worked dipshit.
I just explained how they did it, and they've come closer than most except Japan.
But thats a bad comparison too, because before the mid 90s, you guys COULD own weapons. Japan was disarmed on surrender in the 40s.
>>77199042
'Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough' - Abraham Lincoln
>>77199243
And guess who happens to be the ones voting for open borders immigration policies?
Women destroy nations
They really have no place in the voting booth or in political office
>>77199079
*sees fat open carry ameritard waddling around with gun*
*shoots them in the back*
Aaaaand you're dead.
Please tell me more about your omniscience and how your gun enables you to defend against other people walking around with guns.
>>77199103
Not mine, it is just a AR-15 with wood retro furniture.
Here is a forum about modding the AR's to look retro.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_3/123_.html
Hi have a AR-10 (similar but chambered to .308, and no handle on top). No pics handy at the moment.
>>77199248
>What about this, is this an assault rifle?
Well let's see; it's black so that a check in the yes box
And it has a pistol grip so that's another yes in the check box
Confirmed for military-style assault weapon used to massacre countless children all over the globe
>>77199342
Abraham Lincoln was based he was going to ship all the coins back to Africa but Booth offed him before he could
Is this an assault rifle?
Come and take it from my cold dead hands.
>>77199479
Please tell me how being disarmed protects you from someone who wants to harm you.
I'm all ears.
>>77199594
lol damn it
>>77196491
>get their new weapons from a new black market supplied by Mexico?
not sure how that would work as mexico gets their guns from the US.
>>77199015
>OMG you're so intolerant anon. That takes work and it's like you don't care about modern lifestyles you bigot.
Yeah, seems like the effort of the modern lifestyle huh? Throw an insult at the overwhelming truth. so the effort needed to fix the problem is negated to making the speaker seem intolerant. Seems about right.
>>77199620
Please tell me how being armed protects you from someone who wants to harm you
>>77197440
>>77197617
>>77197869
>>77198095
>>77198671
>>77198273
>>77199059
I don't own a firearm and have no plans to. I also don't want more shit banned in this country, I honestly believe that banning items just creates a black market to get the shit. I also know that many of these anti-gun people are extreme leftists that once you finally cave in and give them an inch, they'll demand you lick their boot.
My whole family listens to the media and agrees. Ban assault weapons, introduce new gun laws, fuck the NRA etc etc
I just needed to hear a different opinion on the issue.
>>77199638
>implying many firearms are not manufactured and coming in from south america
it would only create a shift in the gun market from north america to south.
>>77197055
>are you being raped? Just ask your rapist to put on a condom.
>>77199638
They would ship them over from Africa if somehow guns disappeared overnight in America
The cartels have established themselves in the nation of Guinea Bissau as the point where their drugs will from there get into Europe via running by terrorist groups from there
They chose Guinea Bissau because the entire nation has only 70 police officers
>>77196491
The liberal globalists will have the right wing, Trump voting, NRA members of the military and law enforcement go house to house and forcefully violate the constitutional rights (the same constitution they literally pledged to defend with their lives) of 100+ million gun owners, who certainly won't put up any type of resistance.
>>77199736
Watch In Search Of The Second Amendment and check out John Lott's More Guns Less Crime.
>>77196491
But Short Barreled Shotguns have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. Do moms think people should have to perhaps hurdle incredible legal obstacles to receive a stamp allowing them to own such, replete with the ATF getting all up in your business? Oh wait...
>>77196491
They target ar-15s because it's an easy target. Once those are banned they'll start working on the next thing and they'll keep going until all guns are banned.
>>77199627
>>77199929
Do you honestly think that the concerned mothers of the world operate using logic or reason at all?
>>77199514
Ah I thought it was a m14. Ar10s are also fucking badass.
>>77198364
>assault rifle
WRONG
don't care that much, but don't use words incorrectly if you're going to argue about it online.
>>77199698
You shoot them first.
>>77196491
>Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
Because if you give up some ground they'll take more. See: incrementalism.
Molon labe.
>>77199698
>Some guy shoots an open carrying citizen
>His buddies hear the shot and now the attacker has a ton of guns pointed at him
Now because of this threat he will not even attempt to shoot the first guy in the first place.
>>77196491
who here remembers the Clinton Assault Weapons ban and how it affected the AR15?
>>77200054
Well I didn't know that, Its a carbine huh? Thanks!
>>77196491
>Won't gun owners just hide their firearms
There doesnt come a time when gun owners hide their firearms, theres comes a time when gun owners kill the people trying to disarm the population in order to force them into slavery and prevent them from defending the rest of their rights.
Youl never get the guns, but you might get some bullets.
How many people to go the cinema with a gun in their pocket? How many people go to a mall with a gun in their pocket? How many people go to a gay night club with a gun in their pocket? When does a citizen ever use their gun rights to kill a gunmen on a killing spree? Never. It has never happened. Guns don't defend against shit. If you think they do, you're a deluded idiot. And since they don't defend against shit, there is literally zero logical reason to allow people to freely and legally walk around with them. I don't care if guns are a hobby to you, just like I don't care if raping women or necrophilia is a hobby to you.
>>77197358
>If you ban the AR 15, a fine rifle, what else are you going to ban?
last time they did it the manufactures made some simple modifications to it to make it look less scary and kept right on selling them.
>>77200296
It actually has happened
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
>>77196491
The only thing a ban would do is make more criminals.
>>77198079
kek, the only real answer
>>77200296
Last month a guy in MA killed a knife wielding psychopath was literally running around a mall and restaurants stabbing people to death.
>>77196491
>Moms
of course
>>77196491
Once they successfully grab "assault" weapons, they'll just screech over rifles and shotguns after a few shootings go down with those. Then that generation will say "geez let's just give those up so they shut up". Then a few shootings happen with pistols and they finally come for the 2nd Amendment entirely, claiming that the right to bear arms should apply only to melee weapons and tasers.
So no. I will not support any bans.
>>77199698
>some nigger pulls out his glawk points it gangsta style at you shoots and misses
>you make a gun gesture out of your hand and go "pew pew pew"
>The nigger falls to the ground with a hole in his forehead
good job australia
>>77200126
Try to keep yourself from getting your ass kicked with your hands tied behind your back, dipshit.
If I didn't know any better I would have thought you were a leaf.
>>77196491
>Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
They've already had their way.
Multiple times in multiple areas.
And it's never enough.
>Nobody needs a gun
So let's just send our police/military to hug people to death.
>>77196491
So if you feel handguns are to blame, why give them your rifle?
They know handguns are most often used in these crimes, so why do they want your rifle?
They know it's gangbanging thugs that cause the mass shootings, so why come after stable white men?
Don't give them an inch, you dolt, or you'll end up like us.
>>77200296
Good thing this nation's rights weren't decided by a shitposter.
>>77200296
Lot's of people, they don't keep them in their pockets though. Usually purses or fanny packs.
>>77200618
No only the police and military should have them
But remember that the police are evil racists who murder black children and the military are evil racists who massacre brown children
>>77200637
This. Not one inch.
>>77198957
According to NYC, yes.
>>77200547
Yes, let's enable the nigger to have a gun in the first place in the hopes that he will miss. He won't. You'll drop dead before you could ever reach for your gun. He spray down your friends before they could ever defend you. Again, guns don't defend against shit unless you are literally omniscient.
>>77200664
I'd keep mine in my man purse like the rest of us in eastern yurope, that is if we werent disarmed already :^(
When Trump talks about solutions, he talks about what he'll do, "if I get in there."
When he talks about Crooked Hillary abolishing the Second Amendment and grabbing guns, he says, "not gonna happen, folks."
We're taking this country back whether or not Trump gets elected. They're not gonna get our guns. Hillary will hang for treason before she disarms America.
>>77200569
What the fuck are you talking about? If somebody is trying to kill you, you shoot them. Not sure why my hands would be tied up.
>Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, commonly referred to as Moms Demand Action, is a campaign of the Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund. The group was founded by Shannon Watts in Indianapolis, on December 15, 2012, the day after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. The group started as a grassroots Facebook page titled "One Million Moms for Gun Control."
>Mayors Against Illegal Guns was formed in April 2006 during a summit co-hosted by mayors (((Michael Bloomberg))) of New York City and Thomas Menino of Boston at New York's mayoral residence, Gracie Mansion.[7][8] Bloomberg and Menino co-chaired the coalition.[9] The initial group consisted of 15 mayors who signed a statement of principles.[10] By the end of 2014, there were 855 mayors in the coalition.[6][9][11]
>In April 2014, Everytown for Gun Safety was established, merging MAIG with Moms Demand Action.[4
>>77200840
I hope you're a rare specimen amongst ur cuntment.
let me explain something to you.
As globalism looms closer and borders dissolve with more people traveling abroad more than ever. There are a lot of criminals as well, black market merchants, who deal with illegal firearms. And supply them with what they need.
they wont follow your pasty anglo holy laws of "bin dat ebil assawlt glawk",
your kind will just make their work a lot easier while innocent people become victims.
>>77199698
Not all violence is someone sneaking up behind you and shooting you in the head, less than 1 percent of 1 percent. Assassinations are incredibly infrequent, although armed civilians deter this type of criminal behavior as well considering they are liable to attract unwanted attention and get themselves killed in the process.
Furthermore, someone who wanted to kill people would probably want their victims to be unarmed. This is why nearly all killing sprees occur in "gun free zones". By removing guns from the civilians, all you are really doing is telling the criminals that everyone here is vulnerable and increase their chances of being the victim of such violence.
>>77199638
They get them from the corrupt military and police more often than not. Fast and furious was Holder and Obama's way to create the problem they could use to push another AWB.
>>77200840
Shooting is not that easy, and even if you are shot you could probably shoot back.
>>77196491
Banning the AR -15 is only the first step. Anti-funs know they can't convince the general public to give up their handguns in completely because it's part of the American psyche to own one. So they start with the easy fish, that most Fudds don't care about: scary black "assault guns". Fewer people use them and most outdoorsmen don't give a fuck about them. Then they go after the next Low hanging fruit. Removing one after the other. They also seek to drive a wedge amongst enthusiasts by making certain parts of the hobby more and more difficult thus reducing the number of people who engage in it and removing more opposition to their final goal of repealing the 2nd amendment.
>>77200296
my aunt shot a rapist. She had a concealed .380
>>77196491
So, the millions upon millions of law abiding gun owners should either be instantly be labeled criminals for hiding their rifles, or allow one of their fundamental rights be infringed because someone doesn't feel safe?
In that case, why don't we just throw out that out of date document call the Consitution completely. See how you feel when you have no free speech, when police can search and seize property for no reason at all, when there is no due process and you rot in jail for 20 years without representation or even a sentence.
FFS, think how much you are willing to give up for some false sense of security. Because if we start tearing the constitution apart to satisfy the wants and needs of those that don't bother to study history... well, I guess you can cry on your way to the gas chambers.
>>77196491
>MDA
Those delusional cunts probably think that shotgun is an AR
>>77200760
police are nothing more than civilians in uniform.
My AR is next to my bed in a mattress gun rack thing. Wouldn't ever give it up gotta have dat habib protection
>>77196491
These people are making me crazy. I have thoughts of stalking them, breaking into their houses, and torturing them while talking about how useful a gun would have been.
HAHA
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/alan-grayson-claims-ar-15-rifles-can-fire-700-roun/
>>77196491
lol
The drive to ban "assault weapons" started in the '80s.
The left spent the better part of the 20th century trying to ban handguns.
Problem. Handguns are insanely popular. Rich people carry them for defense. They're everywhere. No progress there.
Here come the 80s. You have wishy washy Bush, the first one, he signs on to the cause, bans foreign imports. Jackpot!
Some not quite retarded guy in the gun control movement has this moment of brilliance. Let's stop going after these popular guns. Let's target the least popular guns in the entire country. Expensive M-16 and AK-47 replicas.
Game on.
So they get Bush to ban imports. Then they work five more years and finally, finally get the assault weapons ban.
What?
What's this?
Over night, the entire US domestic gun industry starts manufacturing AR-15 receivers. Companies, literally overnight, are selling AR-15s without bayonet lugs and flash hiders.
They're selling like hotcakes for insane amounts of money.
Fast forward. It's 2016. The AR-15 is ubiquitous. The most popular rifle in the entire country. We've been at war for a decade and a half. Veterans come home and want a familiar weapon system.
And now liberals want to ban the most popular rifles in the nation, after making them the most popular rifles in the nation.
lol
>>77200618
Worked for Mike Brown.
>>77202050
leftist are pretty fucking stupid
but that is a reason why kikes like to use them for their political agendas on an international scale.
OP here,
You really think it'll be that bad?
Do you think more regulations and laws will come out of this? Do you think the NRA will live through this?
>>77196491
good luck with that, onan
America has 100,000 combat troops, 1 million cops... and 10 million citizens with AR-15s. I feel sorry for anyone stupid enough to attempt a ban.
>>77197055
>I am curious to how the government would enforce a weapon's ban though.
I never get a good answer to this question, either.
>But when the Constitution was written, people had muskets. So, I think it's OK to have a musket, but nothing else.
I think we need to ban all forms of speech and printing unless the material originates from a 250-year old printing press. Anything digital must be banned because the Internet hadn't been invented by Al Gore when the Constitution was written.
>>77196491
>anyone can become mentally ill
lets just put everyone in the home now, and save ourselves the fucking trouble in 60 years when we're shitting our pants while we're at it.
>>77199698
See:
>>77200126
>>77200218
>>77200547
how's it feel to be so completely BTFO and know you're an idiot?
>>77201458
>>77196491
If they can ban the AR15 then hand guns are next. Don't be naive.
>>77203440
>TBBT reaction image
>>77196491
Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
Because a lot of Americans make a good living selling these legal rifles.
Because it's one of the most popular weapons in the country and you'll never be able to collect them.
Because it is Americans right to own these guns and if you tried to take them there would be a lot of violence. Also you'd never be able to find a way of collecting them. Anyone willing to go try to confiscate these weapons probably owns at least one and believes in the rights of others to own them.
This is impossible. T,he left can try all they want but it won't work.
>>77200296
Christ, people like this are so cucked they can't even see facts anymore.
Why do people think the instruments of violence are at fault? It's an old, tired adage, but people kill people. Guns just make it a little easier.
Bans do not disarm criminals, at the very best, true disarmament of the American populace would be a MASSIVE task, and law-abiding people would be the first ones disarmed, leaving them vulnerable.
If you don't believe this, look up the places in the US where gun laws are the strictest, and compare crime rates with the rest of the nation. It's a stark contrast. Hell, in most cases you can compare GUN crime in those areas and it's still a bad thing.
It's a ban that's almost impossible to enforce and is the equivalent of grabbing our ankles. Good guys with guns DO stop killing sprees, or at least end them. I don't have numbers on prevention, but I would assume armed civilians are a deterrent.
While every business and privately owned place has a right to not allow guns in, concealed or not, "gun-free" zones are a welcome mat for armed criminally insane people to commit violence with less fear of repercussion, or more targets to kill before being dealt with.
Treating human beings like human beings, and raising our children correctly is the solution, not the disarmament of the public. Mental health is a serious issue in the US, and the stigma around it, combined with personal freedom laws, combined with crazy people not knowing they're fucking crazy are a powder keg. I'm all for personal freedom, but I am also for edging down the stigma around mental illness, and getting people the therapy or control they need *before* things happen. Counseling, drugs, medical treatment, whatever.
>TL;DR fuck you I'm taking gunz to my grave, be it early or late. Fix the problem not the tool.
>>77196491
>Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
Because we are right and they are wrong
And if you actually are knowledgable, you should know that the liberals only want to ban assault weapons because they failed to ban handguns
after they succeed in banning assault weapons, they'd turn their attention to handguns and guns in general
Make no mistake, the liberals who run the show want to ban guns. assault weapon ban is just a means to an end
Why not ban free speech and freedom of religion?
After all, if you are allowed to be muslim and call for jihad, that's where the problem really lies, no?
>BILL OF NEEDS
>>77196491
>Why not let the left have their way and ban assault weapons?
Why not let them ban ALL guns?
I'm a convicted felon, and the only stopping me from buying any gun I want right now is wanting to spend the money on MDMA and methamphetamine instead.
Laws don't take away shit you want. They just make desired goods tax-free.
>>77201486
And not a single person was indited for Fast and Furious, which makes me furious. Hopefully God Emperor Trump will give Holder the justice he deserves
>>77205494
>Laws don't take away shit you want. They just make desired goods tax-free.
Spot on
>>77205205
>Why not ban free speech and freedom of religion?
You are on to something here.
>>77205845
I've told several people since Sunday morning that banning guns is like banning cocaine.
I then pull out a little 8-ball I carry around with me for added visual flair. They usually get the message. Or at least they lose the ability to retort.
>Gubmint says I can't have this. Yet here I am, pinko.
>>77198586
Examples? I'm arguing that Australia gun ban is leftist shit on schnozbook.
Fuck you mom
Every time one of these shootings happens, I just pray that we have another Oklahoma City Bombing, to see what the Libtards choose to blame then.
I'm fine with banning the AR-15
You'd just better not try to lay a finger on my duel mac 10s if you know whats good for you
We dont have a gun problem. We have a nigger problem.
>>77206781
We really should ban bombs. That durka had a bomb and could have killed someone with it. If bombs were illegal, he never would have been able to get one. Same as those sandcoons in Boston.
When are we going to see common sense bomb legislation?
>>77196491
>How would government grab the rifles? Offer a bit of money?
This is literally what the revolutionary government did in 1789 to get back the rifle they distributed before the insurrection. And it worked. And then they proceeded to cuck the people they were supposed to represent.
Never drink the no-gun kool-aid America, you never come back from it.
>>77196491
Moms need to get back in the kitchen and shut the fuck up before they get bitch slapped.
>>77206714
>part 1/4
New Zealand gun ownership rate: 22 per 100
Australia gun ownership rate: 21 per 100
...funny how NZ has MUCH laxer gun laws than us (theay can own AR-15s, for example) and don't have any problems with mass shooters, etc.....
>Interpol chief: allowing citizens to carry guns in public is most effective way to prevent terror attacks »
>http://10news.dk/?p=760
>http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-westgate-interpol-chief-ponders-armed-citizenry/story?id=20637341
The official Israeli response to the increase in “lone wolf” terror attacks is to ease requirements for firearm permits for civilians:
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/01/12/71853/
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israel-eases-gun-laws-in-bid-to-cope-with-Palestinian-lone-wolf-attacks-423925
>>77206714
>part 2/4
Funny how those "tough gun laws" don't stop at least one person being shot each week in Australia.
Funny how those "tough gun laws" didn't stop the Lindt gunman from buying a black-market gun.
Funny how those "tough gun laws" don't stop at least one gun seized in every raid on a gang from being a home-made UZI.
Funny that.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/blogs/australias-gun-laws-are-putting-guns-in-the-hands-of-criminals/story-fnvslm12-1227561946134?nk=497fc733a141badad8b98f3f6d3b78f5-1449288104
Violent crime, home invasions and rapes went up after the gun ban:
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/assault.html
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/sexual%20assault.html
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/robbery.html
also, they told us there would never be another massacre.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_mass_murders
>>77206714
>part3/4
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/devastated-lockhart-vows-never-again-after-hunt-family-murdersuicide/story-fnj3rq0y-1227057541426
>2011 Hectorville siege - A mass shooting that took place on Friday, April 29, 2011, in Hectorville, South Australia. It began after a 39-year-old male, Donato Anthony Corbo, went on a shooting rampage, killing three people and wounding a child and two police officers, before being arrested by Special Operations police after an eight-hour siege.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
>Cairns stabbings - A woman stabbed 8 children to death on Friday, 2014, December 19, 2014, 7 of them were her own.[8]
>2014 Sydney hostage crisis - Two hostages and hostage-taker Man Haron Monis were killed, during a 16-hour siege inside a Lindt cafe in Martin Place, Sydney, with six other people injured.
All done with..you guessed it....unregistered guns.
Interestingly, after Port Arthur, the three next highest mass murder body counts are from arson (15 dead in the Childers Palace Backpackers Hostel fire, 10 dead in the Churchill Fire and 10 confirmed with as many as 21 dead in the Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire).
I've always been amazed at Australians fear of firearms when it's probably easier to kill a whole bunch of people with $10 worth of fuel.
We had a Muslim kid kill a cop a few weeks back while dressed up in his rags screaming Allahu Ackbar!
He couldn't do much damage, because he was using a revolver. That revolver still required him to be in touch with organized crime (which, okay, as a Muslim in Sydney that's like an American being in touch with a McDonald's) plus it cost the guy who supplied it to him over a thousand bucks. Something that retails for (apparently) less than 300 in the U.S. That's not even counting ammo.
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847
>>77206943
>>77206379
>>77205494
I like this guy, and his attitude.
Vote Felon-anon for Prez 2016!
>I deal in tax-free items too
>as of yet not arrested/convicted
>good luck, 7 proxies, etc
>>77207207
The most liberal gun laws in the US are in Vermont, and Vermont doesn't have a lot gun violence.
Chicago, conversely, has very strict gun laws, and quite a bit of gun violence.
It seems like access to guns isn't the number one factor behind gun violence.
>>77206714
>part 4/4
I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime.
Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".
Australia is having an increase in crime, and has had one since the gun ban in 1997. Gun crime HAS gone down, yet what anti-gunners will not tell you is that it was dropping BEFORE the ban.
Link: http://www.ssaa.org.au/ilasep98.html
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/assault.html
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/44e7066a7d173a95ca256bdc0012241f?OpenDocument
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/how-has-heightened-gun-control-worked-in
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/opinion/chi-the-failure-of-gun-control-in-australia-20130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/15/gun-violence-australia-sydney_n_6329158.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/bikies-diy-arsenal-pistolpacking-western-sydney-a-handgun-hotspot/story-fni0cx12-1226955331948
Fortunately, firearms ownership in Australia has never been higher, and gun crime never so low.
>>77206714
>part 5/4
Did you know: one in ten of all guns seized by police from criminals in Australia is a DIY submachine gun?
Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH76VoI_hsw
http://gunsnfreedom.com/0405-australian-gangs-making-diy-machine-guns-despite-ban-on-assault-weapons/2568
http://1000endonevideo.ru/video/news-politics/-OY3WfG5Urs/australia-gun-smuggling-a-big-problem-since-gun-ban.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/19/home-built-m11-submachine-guns-seized-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/09/05/australian-man-jailed-building-selling-derringer-type-pistols/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/02/homemade-machine-pistols-seized-sweden/
It's niggers dude
>>77206714
>part 6/4
So how many people are killed by handguns in Australia each year? This handy article in The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/02/1072908906612.html), tells us that the number in 2001 was 49.
This represents a drop since tough new restrictions were put in place in 1996, from a 1991 figure of 29.
No, hang on - isn't 49 more than 29? I could've sworn...
AND YET A HANDGUN LICENSE IS THE HARDEST ONE TO GET IN AUSTRALIA!
"handgun deaths increased from 29 in 1991 to 49 in 2001"
...nicely done.
>A 2010 study on the effects of the firearm buybacks by Wang-Sheng Lee and Sandy Suardi of The Melbourne Institute of Applied Economic and Social Research at the University of Melbourne studied the data and concluded, "Despite the fact that several researchers using the same data have examined the impact of the NFA on firearm deaths, a consensus does not appear to have been reached. In this paper, we re-analyze the same data on firearm deaths used in previous research, using tests for unknown structural breaks as a means to identifying impacts of the NFA. The results of these tests suggest that the NFA did not have any large effects on reducing firearm homicide or suicide rates."
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1465-7287.2009.00165.x/abstract;jsessionid=A42D70C89767B70D7E4FECF459DDE74D.f02t01
>>77206714
> part last one/4
>I cant be arsed looking for more stuff I saved atm.
Gun control had no measurable effect on the homicide or suicide rate in Australia, they dropped at the same rate they were dropping before.
http://www.melbourneinstitute.com/downloads/working_paper_series/wp2008n17.pdf
http://www.baka.com.au/news/national/buyback-has-no-effect-on-murder-rate/2006/10/23/1161455665717.html
http://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/Illicit_firearms/report.pdf
>>77207385
Of course it is, but no one gives a shit when niggers kill niggers.
And when a sandnigger shoots a bunch of people no one wants to mention that he was a muslim, because that couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.
And these people think that it's easier to get rid of all the guns than to try and help niggers not be niggers.
Oh, in all my posts, replace www.baka.com.au with www.s m h.com.au (no spaces).
Stupid word filter screws up the links for the Sydney Morning Herald.
>>77200296
geez it's almost like every mass shooting happens in a "gun-free zone"
>>77196491
>nobody needs a gun
nobody needs a car either. nobody needs to own a home. nobody needs to eat 3 meals a day.
that's not an argument.
>"guns are not the answer"
>no question was posited
what the fuck lmao
You can ban guns until you're blue in the face, pinko shits. Criminals do not care. We get what we want. Without the hassle of background checks.
It's ironic that your precious gun laws actually make it easier for us to get guns because the black market doesn't run background checks and has no waiting period.
But let's assume for a minute you miraculously(via that god you don't believe in) get rid of all the guns.
Right. Well now it's ME vs. YOU, and I'm a psychopath with street experience and lots of strength while you're a pasty little shit liberal.
Even if we're armed the same, knife v knife or bat v bat, I'm going to destroy you.
You see, guns are the most equalizing force mankind has ever invented. Truly with a gun, the 8yo little girl is as powerful as the 25yo trained martial artist. Just a pull o' the trigger.
But see, you go back to melee weapons? Well then physical strength, size, and training rule the day again, and the weak are completely at the mercy of the strong. Especially if the strong are psychotic criminals.
You're MY bitch now. The cops might arrive in time to arrest me, but you'll still be fucked/robbed/killed. And you won't stand a chance against me because I'm a lunatic out for selfish hedonistic gain and you're a fucking mark.
Be careful what you wish for. With a gun, you stood a chance.
>>77196491
Do what they did in Australia.
Offer ten times the market value for the rifle.
It's not hard - an AR-15 costs, lets say, 700 dollars.
There are 85 million AR-15's in private hands in the U.S.
So the low cost of 5,600,000,000 dollars you can repurchase all a whopping 2% of the firearms back from the public in the U.S.
Then you just need to set aside a few trillion for a the rest.
Easy.
>>77208470
>Offer ten times the market value for the rifle.
Except they didn't. They offered current value or less. My uncle got half what his SKS and Mini-14 were worth.
>>77196491
>moms demand action
fuck you menopausal,unfucked,emotional bitches
women don't deserve to demand shit,legal emancipation was a mistake
>>77206714
There is no argument, because it DID work here...
...For the very specific, narrow definition they are seeking.
No double digit mass shootings by a lone wolf crazy since the buy back.
Here's the thing - He committed his massacre in Tasmania, which had exactly TWO gun laws, both of which were barely enforced - The need to present a valid gun ownership license when purchasing a gun and the need to register handguns.
We then switched to doing things like banning the sale of automatic rifles - something the U.S. had ALREADY done by that stage.
Australia is pointless comparison, just like Switzerland.
Leftists don't seem to realize that Australia never had any serious gun culture. Never had large gun ownership. In fact, there is larger private ownership of guns now than there was before the ban.
Stop using us (and the Swiss) as comparisons, unless you're ready to face some other harsh truths - Two things No Gunz Australia and All Gunz Switzerland have in common? Tight immigration policies.
We don't have 11 million undocumented human beings from the third world traversing our streets.
>>77208638
Bullshit?
My dad turned in a rusted out SKS for nearly a grand.
Your uncle got rorted.
Anyway, my figures WERE market value.
So, it's the same.
It will cost them nearly 6 billion dollars to get the AR's.
They make up less than 2% of the private guns in the U.S.
If they claim a billion dollar border wall is "impossible" I'd like to see how they justify this.
>>77208931
Oh, and our country had no gun culture, and a very passive population who didn't really care.
So they're going to have to spend billions more opening jails and forming police and military units to forcibly seize weapons and jail people too.
Their notions are insane.
>>77208931
Yeah, well I told him it was dumb to hand it in, because it wasnt registered at the time (not legally required because he had it before they brought that in), but "muh laws".
Anyhow.
>>77208395
People that have jobs are probably going to need a car. Probably.
>>77208434
Good luck taking out more than 2 people in a club with any melter weapon in a club.
>>77197055
lol indian women are raped all the time.
Also how does the condom help in this situation?
>>77209109
Man. If only such a thing as bombs existed...
Boy howdy, you guys better get to banning them bombs before some crazy fool uses one to kill some people.
Could be dangerous! Gubmint pls ban kthxbai.
>lol we kept shooting them so now the kuffar are banning themselves from owning guns.
Doesn't the federal government not even have the power to ban firearms anyway?
I thought that was the point of the second amendment.
>>77209798
People think it applies to the militia. And the "Well-Regulated" part of it means regulation. People are stupid sometimes when they let emotions override.
>>77207654
Well liberals are retarded what more can I say?
>>77197358
We already have that list in CA.
>>77211613
It's sort of a bulshit list though, if you have friends in Law enforcement you can get around it.
>>77210005
It actually means trained and drilled in that context.
>>77200296
>See flag
I almost bought it.
>>77196491
You only use women to push a political agenda if:
A) You are trying to harm the group of people of which those women are part of.
B) You know your arguments are shit and you're corrupt as all hell but you don't want to battle in the arena of ideas.
Using women proves your point is invalid. Fuck off.
>>77196491
I thought the Mexican black market was itself supplied by the US gun makers? isn't it?
>>77197302
Yeah, well you should not be too surprised by the level of stupidity. After all you ARE all Americans.
>>77199620
Being armed is more likely to hurt you or others than help you or them. True fact, as they say.
i still fail to understand why people care about what murifags do with gun, i actually think they are doing a terrible job in killing each other, i hope those numbers drastically increase in the future.
i'd like way more that they stop sticking their jew nose in every other country's business to milk them like the filthy disgusting jews they are
>>77207207
Gee, I wouldn't be quoting Israel in any argument for a rational, proportionate response.
But since you did, how well has their 'tough' policy stopped aggression?
I suspect Mexico would struggle to fill all your gun needs. But it would be a very long time before the guns in the USA dried up even if they were all flat out banned today.
>>77207263
Well, the biggest problem in the US (and here if we were to be gun liberal like them) is not criminals, it is 'law abiding' cits shooting their spouses (mostly man shooting woman, of course) on spur of moment, or kids killing themselves, or getting shot by Dad/Mom gun by accident. And spur-of-moment suicide by gun, of course.
>>77196491
>implying that shitting a kid out of your cockholster makes you some kind of authority on anything
God, I hate moms against/for X.
>>77207316
which neatly answers the argument about 'no guns will not stop mad people being mad". It won't. But it WILL stop a lot of others.
>>77207351
Yes, it WAS falling before Port Arthur.
Can you tell us what it would be without the ban? No, you can't. So this is not an argument, as they say.
>>77207379
What, nothing since July, 2015?
>>77207654
Liberals actually push for gun control because they live in urban areas where blacks are the main perpetrators of crime. Thing is they don't want to be seen as racist so they center arguments on white "rednecks" the NRA etc. but their intention is to disarm black criminals.
>give up your high-capacity weapons!
>you can defend yourself with a revolver!
Deal
>>77196491
>be american
>go clubbing
>get shot
>go to cinema
>get shot
>go to school
>get shot
>call police
>get shot
>>77215758
>read total shitpost
>still kek heartily
>>77207051
What is utopia:
1. Starts with one petition
2. Presidential decree banning AR15
3. Banning expands to all firearms
4. Imports of firearms becomes illegal
5. All firearms manufacturers in the US are nationalized
6. The constitutions is changed banning firearms
7. Huge reward to anyone who denounces owners of a firearm
8. 10 years in jail for possession or manufacturing of a firearm
9. The NRA becomes a criminal organization - membership is treason
10. Peace in America
>>77216944
>after that get shot
>>77218953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokdL-0iV9s
>>77197358
New Jersey has that list
>>77198957
Gibs me dat
But that's a battle rifle
>>77199514
>wood retro furniture.
>look retro
>i have a AR-10
>>77200296
Carrying a gun makes you feel much safer and reassured. It’s impossible to ban guns in any country; people can always buy them illegally.
>>77199736
Here is an opionion for you to share about banning assault weapons.
1. Gun violence starts with people and ends with people. So our legislation should begin there.
2. Semiautos rifles make up a small population of the total gun ownership. Most gun violence is done by pistols, even most mass shootings are done with pistols (over 70%). Pistols are also just as deadly as a rifle in most close quarter situations that we see in mass shootings.
3. Assault weapon bans proposed so far only try to stop further sale of the rifles, it does not try buy back the millions of rifles in the hands of citizens. Which is needed if you want to prevent people from using them. Not to mention if you even get a budget to buy the guns, you will never the cooperation of the people.
4. Assault weapon bans that use features such as pistol grips, muzzle vreaks, or other things are a failure because they are trying to control a free market. Meaning whatever definition used for assault weapons, the free market can chage the way semauto guns look so to not fit that definition and become exempt from that defition and be sold legally.
5. For effective assault weapon ban, all semi auto guns (pistols, shotgun, rifles) needed to be baned from.further sale. And then all currently owned semiautos need the confiscated for fair market price. This is what gun grabbers want, and this is their end goal.
Ask Bernard Goetz if a hand gun saved his life. ?
I decided to check in on /pol/ due to the recent mass killing.
Want to know how I know you're all complete and total retards?
There's no such classification as Assault Weapon. You can't ban a class of weapons that doesn't fucking exist. There is a classification for Assault Rifles, which is well-defined and already off-limits to the general public.
No democratic president or congress has ever said they are "coming for your guns," and closing the loophole at gun shows and asking for a mental health check or wait period is not the same as barging down your door and stealing your pissant hunting rifle.
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>>77196491
Lels, Ban the AR15. The USA hasn't even had a proper massacre yet, no real gun nuts or kommandos have gone insane.
Just wait til the dems push a real gun nut over the edge. And he gets out his Barrett .50, watch peoples heads and upper torso's pop from half a km away. Police chopper? Sure, AP rounds for the fifty.
And the AR isn't a friggin assault weapon, its semi-auto. It just looks scary because it's similar in appearance to an M15. I'm a bong and even I know this.
Can't wait til you lot try and take their guns, and you get a real taste of a fucking headcase.
>>77200296
>When has an Austrailian ever not shitpost furiously?
>>77230667
>the AR isn't a friggin assault weapon
"Assault weapon" has no meaning, idiot.
You mean to say it is not an Assault Rifle.
>this entire thread
>>77215630
Roof Korean Bro In training spotted, Stay Based dude.
>>77196491
Also
>Tfw a hasguns furfag is more free than me.
https://youtu.be/lgc9PglQMOY
>>77196491
>how will da gubbmint grab all da guns guise?!
By getting put down like the fucking dogs they are when they try
>literally asking how to take the guns
Kill yourself OP
>>77197617
And then we'll be as cucked as Britain
>oy is that a butterknife?! Where the fucking is your registration cunt?!?!
>>77197617
4th'd.
The 1934 NFA alone is proof of this. Back when that passed, Dems claimed up.and down that it was going to be the ONLY piece of gun legislation we would ever need and that they would never come after gun rights ever again after that, and we've all seen how that turned out.
Not an inch.
>>77214184
>Being armed is more likely to hurt you or others than help you or them. True fact, as they say.
FALSE
>guns do NOT increase the chances of a loved one being hurt or killed:
Your "true" factoid comes from a study of firearm deaths in Seattle conducted by doctors Arthur L. Kellermann and Donald T. Reay.
Not only does the study ONLY count use of guns if someones death was the result (ignoring injuries or cases where someone was frightened off by, say, a woman home alone with a gun), but another glaring problem with the survey is that it counts suicides and in fact suicides account for the majority of the deaths. People who commit suicide may use a gun when one is available, but if not they can find many ways to kill themselves. (Of the 389 firearm deaths in the survey, 333 were suicides. ref: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html )
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods#Firearms
Research published in the New England Journal of Medicine and the National Academy of Science found an association between household firearm ownership and gun suicide rates,<11><12> though a study by one researcher did not find a statistically significant association between household firearms and gun suicide rates,<13> except in the suicides of children aged 5–14.<13> During the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a strong upward trend in (U.S.) adolescent suicides with a gun,<14> as well as a sharp overall increase in suicides among those age 75 and over.<15>
Two separate studies, in Canada and Australia, conducted in conjunction with more restrictive firearms legislation, demonstrated that while said legislation showed a decrease in firearms suicide, other methods such as hanging _increased_. In Australia, the overall rate of suicide actually _increased_ (following a trend that had been moving upwards for some time), and did not decrease until measures specifically aimed at providing support to would-be suicide victims was enacted. <16><17><18>
>>77214358
>But since you did, how well has their 'tough' policy stopped aggression?
Pretty well actually. Of course, it hasn't stopped rocket attacks, but that is hardly firearm crime.
>>77214493
> the biggest problem in the US (and here if we were to be gun liberal like them) is not criminals, it is 'law abiding' cits shooting their spouses (mostly man shooting woman, of course)
[citation needed], and not wikipedia, please.
>kids killing themselves, or getting shot by Dad/Mom gun by accident.
Wrong:
US gun accidents:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
Go to page 22. There were a whopping 505 accidental gun deaths in the US in 2013.
Thats 505 death by firearms out of a country of 350 million so
505*10000/350000000=.0144
There is a rate of .0144 accidental firearms deaths per year per 10000 people in the US.
They don't just delineate by "child" and "adult", so lets break down those deaths by age group.
Age under 1 yrs: 3 deaths
3*10000/350000000=0.00008
0.00008 infants per 10000 people died of accidental firearm discharge.
Age 1-4 yrs: 27 deaths
10000*27/350000000=0.0007
,0007 children aged 1-4 yrs per 10000 people died of accidental firearms discharge.
Age 5-14 yrs: 39 deaths
39*10000/350000000=0.001
0.001 people aged 5-14 per 10000 people died of accidental firearms discharge.
Deaths age 15-24:107
107*10000/350000000=0.003
0.003 people aged 15-24 per 10000
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>>77214867
I provided proof. You provided nothing but snarky bullshit.
>>77217240
You forgot the most important one:
11. Congress repeals amendment limiting presidential terms. Hillary elected "president for life". White people and non-feminists sent to re-education camps where most are tortured to death.
>>77197873
Seriously it's fucking annoying as fuck.
Went from no smoking in planes or indoors to no smoking outside and if your smoke blows off your property where you can smoke, you can get ticketed for it (El Cajon, CA)
I'm not kidding.
Thank god I moved out of Commiefornia in 2009
>>77228921
>closing the loophole at gun shows and asking for a mental health check or wait period
All those already exist. You fail firearms regulation forever.
>>77230731
>>77231139
Don't lump me in with our leftist retards.
