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BAN THE AR-15 PETITION, 88,000 SIGNATURES
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Just saw this shit on JewBook

It's coming /pol/. War is coming.
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>>77195979
SHIN THIS PIT
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>>77195979
Fuck it I'll sign it for shit's and giggles. Nobody gives a shit about petitions.
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>>77195979

THE AR-15 IS A RIFLE OF PEACE
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>>77195979
>Ban [the only assault riffle I know by name]
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>>77195979
>tfw the only free country left
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sign for shits and giggles lads
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>>77196234
>>77196102

what the fuck you cunts, I didn't post it for you to sign
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>>77196188
>esports
CRINGE

How about ban esports instead?
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>>77195979
Kek, I always liked the AR-10 more anyways
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>>77196268
It's just shits and giggles mate teehee
also lets become communists just for a laugh haha
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At best they can stop further sales of the AR-15.

Which is pretty funny considering there are many other rifles just as good or better.

And the manufacturers can just tweak one thing, call it the "AR-17" and sell it again. Law stated "AR-15" and that's not what they're selling. AR-17 is perfectly legal.

If you can think of a way to get around this without banning hunting rifles, you are smarter than all of the Democrats in government. (Hunting rifle ban would never fly, either with the public or, more importantly, with the SCOTUS.)
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Make a counter petition and we must get it 3x the signatures.
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>>77195979

Remember

The limp dicked libshit traitors are the first to go.
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>>77196268
Well now I had to sign it too.
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>>77196268
>what the fuck you cunts, I didn't post it for you to sign
I mean I don't support banning it, I think it's stupid as fuck.

I'm not going to sign it either because I can't be arsed to even do that, but this is another one of those retarded "calls for action" that involves liberals doing nothing but sitting on their iphone and hastag liking shit.
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>>77196151
>Ban the only semi-auto rifle I know by name!
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>>77195979
So? Just start a counter petition calling for no restrictions.
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Ever heard of a machinist

Not hard to modify,or create a firearm.
Which is not illegal, but Only illegal to sale.
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>>77195979
Twice as many people are killed per year with hands, fists, and/or feet than with rifles. Why don't we just ban people from killing each other?
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>>77195979
So /k/ if they ban the AR-15 which of the dozens of other semi-auto rifles will take its place?

>Inb4 just reskinning and renaming it
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>>77195979

Sorry, if 20 dead white elementary school kids didn't result in banning weapons then 50 dead spic fags won't.

Especially ones killed by a gay sandnigger.

Keep dreaming, leftist fucks.
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>>77196369

They are already doing this. Most stripped lowers have their own form of "AR' name be it "LAR" or something else.

They just need to make an AR-15 and call it a musket
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>>77195979
Are the purposing that people that currently own the AR-15 to be taken from them? OR the sale of the AR-15.

If it's the first then it's civil war.
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>>77196268
yeah it really doesn't matter.
there will be no traction on gun bans. doesn't matter how many petitions they sign.

look up what's required for a constitutional amendment because that's what they really are going to need. anything less is literally just a waste of time.

my bet is Obama or Congress (or a few states individually) knee-jerk some law that makes the left-wing happy, but they know it'll just get struck down. makes the Democrat politicians look good because they "did something" even though it was literally worthless and wasted taxpayer money in the court challenge.
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>>77196487
It's not even illegal to sell, just sell the parts and give away the lower receiver for free.
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>>77196367
Just a prank bro
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>>77195979
>the AR15 is the only rifle in existance

Libshits are dumber than I thought.
First of all, it's not going to happen so keep crying. :)
Second, it's too expensive to enforce.
Third, I'll just buy AKs.
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>>77195979
>ban it
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>>77196502
>Other guns not stated
Meh poor out dated statistic
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>>77195979
NOT ALL AR-15's ARE EXTREMISTS!
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Do you think after Trump wins liberals will get the message that they should drop the open borders anti-2nd Amendment bullshit?
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>>77196369
They tried regulating the price of meat based on name of the cut, so butchers just renamed the cut.

They banned assault weapon features and the Mini-14 was born. I have access to a CNC machine shop and cut a lower for pocket change. There is literally nothing they can do.
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>>77196657
If it's either it should be civil war.
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>>77195979
Where is the cheapest place to get an AR-15? How much do they run? I want to get one fast.
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>>77196806
No
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>>77195979

>implying the executive branch of government can make laws

typical sjws again not understanding how the legal system works
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>>77196732
I want a AK but I don't want one of the cheap knockoffs. Who do I buy one from?
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>>77195979
Petition hits 100k it only guarantees a response from the President.
This means nothing.
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>>77196830
Pick up an SKS while you're at it. The ammo is cheaper and it's more reliable.
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>>77196830

buy a kit from PSA. shipping might be slow but they have good prices. ask /k/
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>>77195979
you fool, probably 20k or more of them are foreigners

start a counter-petition and watch it get a billion signatures
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>>77196755
>the petition is calling for a ban of rifles
>gets pretty recent statistic about rifles
>b...but other guns
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>>77196830
armslist.com

private party
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>>77196546
SKS, it has wood on it so its certified not scary
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Sign it with stupid names so it doesn't get passed. Spam it now.
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>tfw support gun owners
>still don't think anyone really needs an assault rifle

A handgun or pump action shotgun is good enough to protect the home
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>>77196910
I would laugh my ass off.

King nigger gets up there and has to explain that he has the same idea but that they literally wasted their time because he can't make legislation, and that they should know this. His barely contained frustration would be priceless.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the le haha joker trolls signing the petition for le funny laugh maymay fun arent just reddit cunts trying to trick gullible idiots into signing their petition.
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>>77196988
>>77196949
>>77196942
Awesome

All I have now is a nugget.
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>>77196942
>Not having several SKS' and a stack of spam cans at all times
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>>77197144
A country is a true patriot's home.
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>>77195979
Why should we ban a semi-auto gun?
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>make petition for "Don't Ban AR-15"
>meme magic it to 6 million signatures
2 ez
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>>77196887
WASR 10. The only rifle from century that isn't complete shit. If you're looking to spend more check out DDI and Arsenal.
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>>77197091
Start signing it with the names of dictators who all supported population disarmament.
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>>77197179

Alexander please.
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>>77195979
>Ban the AR-15
>People just move on to AKs and SKSs
>Nothing was accomplished.jpg

Seems about right
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>>77196806
They'll likely just get more militant than ever. Maybe they'll actually try to secede like they wanted to in 2004 after Bush was re-elected.
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You gear queer LARP faggots need to get a life.
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>>77197192
I love my Yugo SKS.
I want to get an M1911 but I can never find a really decent .45 that's not over $1000.
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>>77197351
>Yugo SKS.
But its so HEAVY though
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>>77195979
Make a petition to ban Muslims
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>>77197392
I like that about it.
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>>77195979
WOAH GUYS 0.02% OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION VOTED ON THIS.
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>>77196942
$450 for SKS??!!! they are $170 Canadian recently. They were under $100 only a year or two ago. Fuck me.
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>>77195979
>>77195979
There's already phaggots on my FB saying that guns should be banned.

Let's just all ignore Islam. This blows my mind.
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>>77196755
>(((People))) want to ban AR-15s
>Listing number of people killed with AR-15s isn't relevant

Idiot
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>>77197429
Import ban here.

I would never spend $450 for an sks when I can build a fucking ar or ak that can use detachable mags without jamming up.

Shit a chinese sks will run $350.
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>>77197429
It's gone up in price ever since Obama went gungrubber mode.
I bet arms dealers are practically setting fires with how much hand-rubbing they're doing while watching every shooting unfold.
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>>77195979
it was a Sig MCX. Not even an AR.
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>>77195979
>ban one specific rifle
Even if it passed, which it won't, still have:
AK variants
AR variants
Shotguns
Bolt actions
Handguns
Bows
Knives
Bludgeons
Fire
Cars

Why are liberals so fucking stupid?
So stupid they'll never even understand how stupid.
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I hate King county so fucking much.
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>>77196887
If you're willing to spend $1000 on an AK, which a lot of people aren't, then just get an Arsenal/FIME and be done with it. I paid $900 for mine a few years back, put over 1000 rounds through it, and not a single FTF. It eats through everything, brass, steel, surplus, commercial. Even came zero'd for 100m out of the box.

Some /ak/fags will roll their eyes because WASRs and kit builds, but at least my rifle says Made in Russia.
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Should I buy an AR-15 before it's too late? I'm currently a gunless faggot and I feel like I need to change that quick.
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>>77196657
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease PLEASE PLEEAASSE send fucking Blue Helmets up my unmarked dirt road to confiscate my weapon

Oh in the name of Kek, if I am graced with dubs, let it be so.
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>>77197542
>>77197554
Glad I grabbed some up when I did then. I can't believe price of .22lr now also. They making it hard to stock up. It's obvious. Even 12ga 2 3/4" is up here. Used to buy flats of 1000 target loads for $45. Those days are long gone
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>>77197574
> they actually ban guns
> there's no guns, nobody can get any illegally either
> terrorists resort to making bombs from shit they can easily buy from hardware stores
> blow up entire buildings instead now
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>>77196830

Had you bought one before last Saturday nite, they were fairly easy, common and cheap to find. Waiting until AFTER a mass shooting in which one was used to then try to find one ... expect to pay a 500% markup.

Use the Internet to find all the parts and build one. Spend a few hours browsing and reading /k/ (for fuck's sake ... don't try to post there; you're obviously too retarded to be taken seriously ... just fucking browse and read).

If you are somewhat less retarded than you sound, you should be fairly educated within a day or two and be able to function like a grown-up adult person and be able to take care of yourself in short order.

And, also note that you have no need of an AR-15. There are many superior options available. Look into them.

> BUTT I want to get one fast!!!

Don't be fucking retarded. That's exactly the sign of someone who is too fucking retarded to be allowed to have such a weapon. Grow the fuck up.
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I don't really want or need an AR. I have a little pocket .380 for self defense and a .22 for small game and that's really all I need. I don't think any gun should be banned though,

Also carry one of these bad boys around.
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>>77195979

Is there a way to sign, but instead of using real names, use subtly fake names or /pol/ memes?

This should undermine the validity of the petitions, since I don't see any way for them to prove that it's being signed by real people.
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>>77197987
Yeah your right, probably will blow over in like 2 weeks.
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>>77195979
So other rifles are allowed?
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>>77197179
This has to be Canadian cuck poster

That faggot is way too autistic about his trolling
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>>77196432
?'m not going to sign it either because I can't be arsed to even do that, but this is another one of those retarded "calls for action" that involves liberals doing nothing but sitting on their iphone and hastag liking shit.
*tips fedora
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>>77197574
Don't forget fists.

>all white males required to be amputated above wrists.
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>>77196502
>twice as many people are killed each year by feet
>feet
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holy shit america is stupid as shit.

>terrorist attack
>''dont be racist its the guns, not islam!''
yea because europe is doing fine with strict gun laws right?
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>>77198264

That kid looks like a tremendous faggot.
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>>77197836
Yes, but not for the reasons you are feeling.

Firstly, it's a great platform despite its detractors, and the 5.56 round is plentiful with fine ballistics (also easy to slap a supressor on).

Secondly, we are not going to see any kind of ban or confiscation in the coming months, so in that respect it's not 'time sensitive'. However, the SECOND serious legislation gets talked about to do so, especially after this election which Hilary does have the potential to win, you will see everything from awesome components and rifles to shit tier throw-aways dry up faster than you can get your computer turned on.

I worked at a gun store doing online sales during the last panic and saw it firsthand.

So, you want to have at least the following BEFORE that happens:

1. One AR 15 rifle with BUIS and some form of optic, plus a detachable carry handle sight
2. One semi-auto pistol of your choice (FN Herstahl, Glock, Springfield...all fine; HK is great)
3. 500-1000 rounds of 5.56, and at least a couple hundred for your pistol. This is your 'Stash'; you will want to buy additional for practice and not drop below these numbers.

After that, you can get bolt action rifles or shotguns as you please; those will be the last things to go. Also consider spare parts and extra magazines for each weapon.
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>>77197998
Mora is awesome. I love those little knives. Phenomenal value.
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>>77198464

I love it. It takes whatever I throw at it like a little whore and putting a new edge on it is easy as fuck.
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What should we go to when they do eventually ban our FUN-15s?

Scout rifles?
Tactical lever actions?
elaborate on the MINI-14 if semi-auto is still allowed?
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>>77197742
Nice try. Once you get out of multicultural utopia known as the greater Seattle area, everyone is pretty right leaning. The lib shits are outnumbered.
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>>77196369
Like adding one more or I guess removing one of the bolt locking lugs, and making them paddle mag release, and making the rear takedown pin insert a bit farther forward of the buffer retention pin so it can have some more meat in front of it for polymer LR uses
Fucking bang.
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>>77198620
I keep mine literally inside of my day pack....how do you carry yours? Custom sheath or? I've just never felt good about leaving it in that loose-feeling plastic one.
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Nothing will happen.
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>>77198726
>The lib shits are outnumbered.

No they are not.

Most of Washington state population is IN greater Seattle area you goon. Last time Washington Voted for a Republican was 1984.
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>>77195979
>implying anyone cares about an online petition
>implying this shit will be enough to change the constitution
>implying people would give their guns willingly
>implying gun making companies won't lobby so everything remain as of now like mad
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>>77196646
Mfw there already is one named "American Musket"
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>>77195979
1 post by this ID. SAGE THIS SHILL
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>>77195979

Do it. Come and take it you fucking faggots.

I am single with no wife or kids. I will really miss my parents and my niece who I adore but I have nothing to fucking lose.
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>>77198940
He is just bringing in news bro

Clam down
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>ban goes through
>AR-15 shootings keep happening
w-where did they get one?! we banned them!! don't these criminals know those guns are illegal now??!
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>>77195979
>Bans AR-15
>But not other platforms
Only retarded liberals can see nothing wrong with this.
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i'll just use an AR-10 which is a larger caliber

no-gunz are so fucking dumb when it comes to this shit
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>>77196371
Make a counter petition to not only ignore the ban ar15 petition but also to repeal the NFA and allow American citizens to freely buy, trade, and manufacture full auto and burst firearms with any barrel length and suppressors without need for registering or paying for tax stamps.
Post the link on twitter and Facebook and everywhere else.
MFW it gets 150million signatures
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>2016 not having an AR-47 or a glock with lots of CLIPS in it
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Why do these cucks literally want to give up freedom for a false sense of security?

Is it because the cucks are in a majority?

Everywhere I go on Dutch news sites the comments that say that Americans need to give up their guns have the highest points.

It's retarded. These people have become so addicted to the state, some sort of Stockholm syndrome.
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>>77198297
pretty sure europe is going through the same sort of thing
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>>77198893
THIS. those stupid fagets voted yes on i594 and now you can't even let your family use yer guns or give them one without a background check
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>>77196487
It's only illegal to sell if it becomes a business operation where you manufacture with the intent to sell.
If you make it, plan to keep it, but end up selling it later, technically you're within the confines of the law.
If you start doing a lot though you'd need an FFL, then you're good to hook.
But then again, if it's civil war, why would you be following FFL or NFA to begin with?
Someone warm up the ovens
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>>77199226
Here's the difference with Europe. The European Council consists of people not voted into office and they are both the Legislative and Executive power, meaning they can restrict guns even more without any opposition when they want. At least you guys got congress and things like the NRA.
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>5.56 babbies about to get their rifles taken away
Feels good to be 7.62
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>>77199305
>goberment came and took my 9 guns.
How many do I have left?
>27, I lied.
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>>77196188

Underrated post
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>>77195979
>Ban AR-15
>Next most popular gun gets banned
>Next most popular gun gets banned
>Next most popular gun gets banned
>When all guns get banned, swords and long blades are next.
>When any sharp object is banned they start to ban Pencils because they don't want us to write this in history
>Next a civil war breaks out and SUPRISE!!
>Nobody has any defenses against the tyrants
>We slaves now
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>>77195979
>Cold dead hands, motherfucker.
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>>77197836
Yes you should, You should also stock up ammunition for it so incase shit goes bad you can atleast defend your territory.
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>>77197351
Ruger SR1911. I hear they're very good for the price.
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What is even stranger is that right now, no one gives a shit about the gays that were killed. Just look at the previous mass-shootings. Facebook posts like "my prayers for the dead", "we are with the families" and other shit like that, politicians making a long speech, the flag of the dead nation on every building, live coverage of the families of the dead. Right now, this shooting is all about gun laws, islamist vs gays, draconic gun laws, a political shitfest, racism accusations out of ass, corruption and censoring everywhere. This is the most unusual shooting, where people prayed for the shooter to be white or a muslim, where people take sides shitting on the other, where mass media doesn't report things, where people say gays deserved it and other shit like this.

Something bad is coming, and we will be on the first row of the happening.
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>>77199226
why can't those guys see that even if guns are banned, there will still be terrorist attacks? we're the perfect example of how it shouldn't be done. at least keep your freedom.
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The war is coming.

Feels good to be on the side with AR-15's.
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>>77196188
that second one was probably sponsored by korea
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>>77199703
This, The major towns of Sweden are essentially gunfree zones due to very few CC licences.
Does that stop guncrime? NOPE, There is shootings pretty much everyday, They throw grenades at eachother and not a single firearm these criminals/terrorist scums carry are legal.
Thank god The Swedish countryside is Europes most armed place alongside with Serbia, Finland, Switzerland but damn it must suck living in the hoods without the means to defend oneself.
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If you are a man, it is your duty to have weapons and be able to use them for righteous purposes.
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>>77195979
Find the fuckers brave enough to come rip it from my cold dead fingers.
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Banning a rifle that there are 300,000+ of easily and the there are AK's and other semi autos LMAO.
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>>77195979
literally only colt is allowed to call it "AR15".

Every other lower by every other manufacturer out there is stamped with a different designation...so, go ahead and ban colt's one specific product.
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>>77196188
DEGENERACY REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>77195979
Yeah go ahead and ban our guns. See if we don't shoot you anyway.
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>Ban the AR platform
>Normies gravitate towards AKs

I don't think you faggots comprehend the big picture shit going on here. This isn't about banning a particular assault rifle - This is about turning you burgers into COMMIES!
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>>77199461
WAT? i have ZERO left
>boating accident
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>>77195979
no matter who wins the election a civil war will break out

prove me wrong
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>>77195979
I can't believe this is going to pass, I really can't believe I will live to see the american constitution raped by a bunch of cucks and faggots. This is what comes with liberalism and being tolerant with outsiders and outcasts. Jesus.
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>>77195979
sure, ban the AR-15 platform... Because there are literally no other platforms available to build a gun on...
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>>77195979
It wasn't even an AR.

It was a Sig Saur MCX.

Look it up.

These dipshits think all black rifles are identical.

It doesn't even matter that it wasn't an AR at this point. It's part of the collective consciousness and it will never be removed.
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>>77195979

>list of 88,000 traitors to America who want to subvert the constitution

Well, isnt that just handy to have them all listed off in one place, now the next step is to stop them from subverting the constitution 1 by 1.
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>>77195979
oh man 88k in a country of 300 million
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People say ban guns, but they never actually offer a plan how to do it. Hypothetically let's say in a crazy Universe, a law passes through that bans assault rifles, how do you plan to get them out of the hands of citizens?
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>>77196369
The liberals know not what they do. Even if the AR-15 somehow got a ban from being sold, the bill would only restrict the sale after a certain date. The sales of AR-15s would be inumerously high in the period between the date of announcement and date of enactment.
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>>77200189
The Soviets were a fearsome and respected foe. There's nothing wrong with Americans appreciating the AK.
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>>77196598
sides lost
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>>77200189
obomba already banned AK imports a while ago..
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>>77198098
>probably will blow over in like 2 weeks.
The last panic buy took a solid year for prices to drop down to reasoable again
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>>77195979
Islamist extremist want you to disarm yourselves. Gun control doesn't work.
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>>77200713
>obomba already banned AK imports a while ago..

Then why is there still terrorism?
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>>77195979
where's the petition to ban muslims
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>>77200584

Kinda like how there's nothing wrong with inviting Jamal over to fuck your wife while you shitpost on /pol/ from your comfy cuckshed.

>>77200713

Pretty sure you Yanks have your own AK-style manufacturers.
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>>77199449
I likes me the rolling block, but when they try it again it will absolutely be a 'features' list. Among them I can almost guarantee will be magazine size (that's a given) and action type. They'll go after semi-automatics in general.
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>>77200950
>Pretty sure you Yanks have your own AK-style manufacturers.

And they charge over double what Saigas went for
And Saigas were leagues ahead of the shit we turn out for AKs
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>>77196598
OH SNAP! we need a like button up in this bitch.
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>>77200282
These petitions don't mean much of anything to be honest. It's more the principle that there is such a large support for gun bans. These people are too stupid to see the forest for the trees - that guns are preventing them from losing even more rights.

Gun ban is on the horizon. Most of us think Obama will try it before he leaves office. If Hillary wins she has already said she will ban guns. It's not a matter of 'if' but 'when'.

I don't think this country can handle 8 more years of Obama-esque policies that Hillary will put forth.
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>>77195979
That's a lot of cuckolds.
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>>77201103
THIS. century arms started selling US made milled AKs and they sucked MASSIVE COCKS! cracking reciever,etc.. btw anyone has an update on those? also yeah overpriced as FUCK
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>Left wants to establish dictatorship because people disagree with them
>would probably kill those people if they could
>many desperately want to
>Want the guns taken away

Yea no
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>>77201202
Obama's administration was the death knell of firearms ownership; Hilary will be the killing blow.

This is my sole reason for voting for Trump, above anything else: He will do his part to preserve 2A.

Literally the only hopeful choice for us right now is to preserve the right of civilians to own firearms so that we can pass them down to the next generation and teach them. This way, when everything else becomes SO HORRIBLE that it is absolutely intolerable, we can have our insurrection.

I want it to be our generation, but frankly we are all too /comfy/ to abandon our petty conveniences for the sake of protecting future liberty. We gripe and moan and threaten that we will rise up, but ask yourself if you can go without:

-Restaurants, food infrastructure in general
-A home
-Your paycheck
-Vidya
-HVAC

We would lose many of those for most of the uprising. And ok, maybe you and I are fine with that...but is the average gun owner or disgruntled citizen? No. Not yet.

It has to get far worse before people will revolt. We are merely stewards of the tools that will see it through. But in a way, that is still an honor; let us make a point to not fail our children in this.
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>>77196151
hey man don't underestimate my cod gun knowledge
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>>77200950
>Kinda like how there's nothing wrong with inviting Jamal over to fuck your wife while you shitpost on /pol/ from your comfy cuckshed.

Except we won the cold war. It's just a gun. And it's stood the test of time. Can't deny results.
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>>77197179

Yup.

>Gays scream oppression one way
>Gay sandnigger shoots them in the backs
>"THIS IS STILL YOUR FAULT"

How vain can you be to not just kill yourself but demand society fall with you?
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>>77195979
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
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Oh boy....

Welp. Theyve finally made me do it. I didnt think it would be necessary but im going to have to buy an AR. Gun Show is coming in August. Im gonna do it /pol/

How much does an AR cost at a gun show??
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>>77199172

Remember the leftists attacked the patriot act for giving up our rights for fake security?

Yea well, they only hated it because a rightist did it.
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>>77196188
>Tfw idiocracy is becoming more and more a reality, just slightly different.
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>>77202109
How can america have forgotten their own struggle for freedom and for their rights? And must of all, pushed by faggots, outcasts and rejects of your own society?
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>>77202195
buy one on armslist for $600

meet in a walmart parking lot, lots of security cameras and people around, plenty safe.

also no one gives a shit you're buying and selling guns private party.
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>>77195979
They're going to lose. Our arguments are too strong, and flat out correct. The rifle didn't kill those people. The muslims did.
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>>77202249
You have to understand that our left-wing hate the founding fathers. They look at them as rich racist white butchers that slaughtered Indians and beat blacks. By association, many, most even, of their ideas get tarred with the same brush.

These are irrational people. Our bond with them, whatever that is, is eroding everyday. At some point we're just going to have to start shooting at them.
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>>77202249
Worst than that, this shit is poisoning the entire western civilization with it. It's horrendous to watch.
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My family owns a gun store specializing in AR15s. We are about to make so much money.
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>>77199449
Isn't it dangerous to fire 5.56 out of an AR-15? They're built for the pressure and load of .223
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signed
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>>77196188
>go to buffalo wild wings on a Friday night
>see a bunch of nerds in CLG jerseys
>they are showing counter strike on one of the big screens , broadcasted on TBS
>event is sponsored by buffalo wild wings and arbys

welcome to the future
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>>77202195
About $500 to $1000 depending on how hyped up it is. If you are not going to shoot it a lot then go for less expensive. If you are going to shoot it a lot then paying more for it is a good idea.

This link shows the pretty close to street prices for most of them.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_1989/Tactical+Rifles/
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>>77195979
It's a petition . There was also a petition to have star wars remade.
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>>77202661
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>>77202249

Because they took up a different struggle.
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>Guns in America is a complicated issue
Shouldn't it be "are a complicated issue"?
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>>77202195

>August

kek they'll be banned by then

Obama is probably working around the clock right now to draft up some legislation
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>>77202661
Can't tell if troll...

Most AR's are chambered in 5.56 now, which will also eat .223.

There's also a newish chambering now called .223 Wylde which I think is marketed to match shooters and can also take both.
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>>77202426
Actually your missing something.

The truth is this whole SJW horseshit is really not a big deal.

It seems like a lot of them are out there but really it's just a few in every town. Before the internet people would just ignore them. Wouldn't even look twice in their direction.

But now that people put every thought they have out there on the Internet what you have is people arguing with people that really don't matter at all.

If your opinion is worth anything you will typically keep it to yourself. Those that have to tell you everything they think are the crazy ones and most people know and understand this.
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>>77202850
There's way too many knock-off MAGA hats floating around out there.
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>>77196661
The reason why the anti-gunners always fail is that politicians aren't complete idiots and can see what an absurdly shallow and emotionally driven movement it is. They care about this stuff right now but in a months time when the media moves on from this latest shooting they won't care anymore, they'll move on along with the media. Meanwhile the pro-gun side are consistently passionate about this issue all the time, it's not rocket science which side you should pick.

Also republican voters are willing to punish representatives for being anti-gun, even if it hurts the party. Democrats on the other hand are more then willing to forgive their representatives for doing nothing on gun control because they have no self-respect and consider the well being of the party itself to be more important then literally anything.
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>>77202661
556 has somewhat higher pressures and the cartridge is slightly different. Many modern guns don't care but always double check for your exact gun before using the wrong ammo.
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Signed.

t. AR-15 owner from cuckifornia
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Lol, 88k cucks who like to whine on a useless petition

>to bad they can't ban pieces of aluminum like this one
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>>77203294
What the fuck did you take that picture with a Motorola dynatac?
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>>77203006
Anon, the SJWs set policy now. If you doubt their power, you need look no further than the yes means yes laws popular in places like communistfornia.

No, we must do as Doctor Saad calls ideological trench warfare. Each of us must spread correct ideas to counteract the reach of the bad ideas. We must do it every day, so that the normies aren't exposed to only the bad ideas which causes them to think the bad ideas are the only ones.
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>>77196188
what is wrong with esports, /pol/? video games arent degenerate.
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>>77203421


downloaded from icloud and they never blew back up to normal size
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>>77203385
Hypothetically speaking. If I happened to be journeyman machinist, with my own shop. Would the fbi or nwo take an interest in me which I may not appreciate?
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>>77203421

They banned higher quality phone cameras after some underskirt public shots and denounced them as a tool of white sexist oppression.
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>>77197144
Tests have shown that shotgun pellets actually over-penetrate worse then softpoint 5.56mm rounds because they retain their energy much better after striking an obstacle such as a wall. The babby killing salt rifle is actually the safer home defense option technically.
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>>77196188
FREE LEFFEN
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>>77197144
>good enough
Last I checked, we don't live with the bare minimum.
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>>77195979
How we going to get dem gay bars clean with no AR-15?
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>>77203567
But they don't justify fucking visas. We're full, nerds.
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I'm working on this petition currently:

>"A complete ban of persons entering the united states who originate or travel from terroristic or enemy nations"

>We the People petition the United States Congress and the Executive to recognize and invoke the Nationality Act of 1952 for all nationals and aliens from Nation States that are:
>1) Enemies of the United States and territories
>2) Nation States that are antithesis to the western values of the United States and territories
>3) Nation States that are antithesis to the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights
>4) Harbor or promote terrorism against the United States and territories
>5) Promote jihad, radical Islamic terrorism and/or sharia law within the United States and territories
>6) Promote, appoint, vote or otherwise, a Caliphate or Caliph within the United States or territories
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>>77200368
Canada-san your flag is showing
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>>77195979
petition.org is proof that majority rules doesn't work in mental institutions.
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>88k signatures
Lol there are over 80 million legal gun owners in the US. I think they are gonna need a few more people for this to matter...
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>>77199680
Exploiting mass shootings for cheap political points has become so routine now that people don't feel any shame about it anymore, it's just the way the game is played now.
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>>77203824
A 12 ga shotgun also has about 2.5X the energy of a 223 which is probably the real difference. 223 seems to go right through anything for me where a shotgun is far more spread out. Light bird shot is good since it it very poor at penetration but if you shoot somebody is is going to make a giant mess. But the shotgun can still put big holes in things even with bird shot so...
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>>77196108
Kek
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>>77200368
>that image
Guy on here once told me that Orwell was talking about the Home Guard with that quote, I still don't understand what in the sweet merciful fuck he meant by that.
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>>77202249

They really don't know what is good for themselves. They don't know the damage they do until it comes to their door. They are as told by Edgar Allen Poe: the revelers who holed themselves in a castellated abbey to protect themselves from the Red Death while everyone else suffers.

They live their whimsical ivory towers, up until reality catches up with them and tips their towers over in a storm of fire and blood. It is almost similar to those who welcome refugees with open arms, yet refuse to live around them.

When the flood reaches critical mass, and the EU starts becoming Islamic, they shall know their destiny: a fate that will be carried out at the hands of fanatical executioners. ISIS is very elaborate in it's often ridiculous killing sprees.

Some small sense of justice will be had when the screaming left-wing tool is dragged out and beaten, burned, and then tossed from a tall building. I say a small sense of "cosmic justice", because for all who welcome this, there are those who never wanted this, who never asked for this, and who will be dragged from this life unjustly, screaming.

Kind of like some of the people who went to that club I gather, not all of them were democrats, some probably even supported Trump, as uncommon as that is.

But they were killed all the same. And the left still wants to practice destructive forced "diversity" and "multiculturalism". Just from a safe distance.
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>>77204256
I'd like to read more about this. I'm ip on my physics, but I'm not sure how they're quantifying this. I've shot .204 Ruger through 11ga (1/8") steel wall tanks, soft point rounds and the fragments penetrate the far side. No. 4 game shot won't penetrate the first layer. I wouldn't want to be shot by either mind you.
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>>77199340
Amen
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>>77195979
Irrelevant, so many are out there to be grandfathered in, feelgood futile endeavour from useful idiots
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>>77204193

Rule of thumb I heard from a corporate seminar:

For petitions, every 1 person who signs approximately 10 others support the opinion.

Letter writing (actually hand written) is 100 times the number of letters.

So yeah, still miniscule.
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>>77195979
85 thousand out of 318.9 million, lol
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>>77195979
#NotAllRifles
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>>77195979
>ban a 50 year old design that even pinoys can churn out with a lathe in their basement

I guess everyone will just switch to AKs or mini-14s now huh
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>>77195979
we should start a petition to 'save the ar-15'
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I'm going to buy a Vz 58 at the first opportunity available.


What pistol should I follow that up with? A CZ75D? Perhaps a Makarov?
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>>77205927
This is a internet petition though. the is the same place that got the required amount of signatures to end the drug war and fund research for genetically engineered catgirls for domestic ownership.
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>>77203960
this
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>>77204017
>antithesis
Antithetical you retard.
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>>77195979


I'm aware that the vast majority of gun deaths are caused by small caliber pistols / handguns .... but does anybody have the exact figures? a hypothetical ban of the AR-15 would fix absolutely nothing

we gotta debunk this feelgood, knee-jerk bullshit... it's getting too zany


what are they thinking will happen if they ban the AR-15 specifically?
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>>77195979
Alright... So they want people to use weapons other than AR-15 based models?
They want people using Kalashnikovs instead? I don't really get the point.
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>>77196502
6,371 handguns rofl.

yeah let's not ban guns.
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>>77206774
My grandfather does not have a CZ75D and he has a pretty high opinion of it.
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>>77196502
BAN ASSAULT FEET
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>>77202545
whats your biggest profit margin? Ammo? Addons? The rifles themselves?
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>>77198419
Why do I need a gun, nigger?
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>>77195979
Assuming that gun ownership for self-defense isn't retarded in every single way, in what world would you need anything more than a low caliber hand gun to 'defend' yourselves?
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>>77207406
There's always a bigger gun, therefore we should be able to own as big a guns as we can afford to buy from the manufacturers.
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>>77207154
It has already been debunked. Bill Clinton himself said the '94 AWB was a wasted effort that depleted political capital and caused the Democrats to lose control of Congress, and urged that gun control is a losing proposition for Dems.

In a country where over half the population own guns, going after their 2A is politically disadvantageous.
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>>77195979
>this gun serves no purpose but to efficiently kill people
... whats your point?

last time I checked there is not a single place on earth that is a paradise much less even within the borders of the single best country on this planet. Sometime you might need to shoot at people in worst-case scenarios including some terror riot or invasion.

If you're literally willing to die if something like that ever happened cause you didn't want to own a gun then you're retarded and you will die. So don't be retarded and stay alive.
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>>77206774
Is that who I think it is?
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>>77207496

is it just me, or are the Dems in a vicious death spiral right now? it's like they're crashing and burning insanely hard, on all fronts - from Obama's anemic, limp-wrist posturing... to Shillary's hacking fits, like she's about to spontaneously combust ... not to mention the extreme backlash against the SJW and BLM crowd over the past couple months - it's starting to look like their days are numbered

they seem to be in really, really bad shape - and it's like everybody's noticing except them
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>>77195979
>Ban the AR-15
Ok cool then I'll just buy one of the like 500 other semi auto rifles on the market. How fucking retarded are these people?
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>>77207851
Read the pic.

It's about "symbolism" and making a "small step" toward confiscation of all arms.
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>>77206266
Nice m16
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test
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>>77197836
buy a couple of lowers if short on cash
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>>77195979

Good idea.

Because god knows without the AR-15, there's no way Muslims of all people would switch to using AK's for their massacres.
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>>77202219
That's why I hate George dubya Bush.
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>>77200349
They think AR = Assault Rifle. So all rifles are ARs in their book.
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>>77207754
I think their main problem is with the cuckservative right being in full agreement with them and not putting up any resistance, the leftist ideologues have been left in an echo-chamber where no dissenting voices have kept their virtue signalling in check. So it has just increased dramatically with each new tweet trying to out-virtue the one before it. They're screeching their own propaganda at each other getting louder and louder to be heard over the rest and this is what you're left with. Political movements with noting to move against consume themselves.
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>>77199449
glorious battle rifle master race...
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>libshits think the AR-15 is the only semi auto .223 rifle out there
>they are oblivious to the fact that a Glock could have done the same amount of damage

Holy shit, nofunz are dumb
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>>77195979
LMAO Always blaming the guns instead of the ideology of Islam. Get cucked Amerifats, your next President is Hillary. Everyone will laugh at you in /pol/ next year.
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>>77195979
I do need to go buy an AK or AR. This is how all of that stupid fucking rebel flag shit started
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>>77195979
Will never happen.

Attempting to gungrab right before the election will give the republicans the whitehouse for 8 years.

There are too many dems who will jump ship.
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>>77196502
Source is a dead link
Can anyone confirm?
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>>77208625
You better hurry, price is about to spike.
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>>77196598
You forgot to put quotes on dead.
Well by now the kids are either dead or committed suicide due to deprave acts of sex by the elites.
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>>77208680
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls

Same pattern holds true
351 rifle vs 817 'personal weapon'
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>>77207510
It also serves to efficiently kill animals.
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>>77208842
I will say there's a large number of firearms of unstated type, but its doubtful all of them are rifles so its still probably about 2 to 1 for hands vs rifles
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How is it legal to ban a gun in the US? Couldn't the anti-gun nuts just ban all guns and be done with it, no 2nd infringement?
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>>77200341
This
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