To those Americans who say the answer for to gun violence is to have more guns, explain this shit.
/pol/ = stumped
I bet countries with more cars have more car related deaths as well.
>>77108561
I thought shitposting Strayacunts were more subtle than this.
>using gun deaths
>not using unlawful homicides
When people have a means to easily commit suicide they do so.
>>77108561
If 20 dead first graders didn't result in gun bans, 50 dead gays certainly won't.
>>77108751
fpbp
Tbqh, those numbers aren't that high. Also I see they said gun "deaths" and not "homicides". The majority of gun deaths are actually suicides
>>77109340
>implying the first one even happened
>>77108561
Do you get bored by posting "pol = stumped" "pol btfo" "pol X" etc.. all day every day?
>>77108751
first post best post, as always.
"Gun death" statistics are deceptive bullshit anyway, and anybody who publishes them without clearly indicating that suicides are counted in them is probably a shill.
>>77108561
>no source
>Illinois isnt clearly shown on there
Are you even trying?
>>77108561
because nogunz worked so well for France.
retard.
>>77109817
>>77108561
Also the axis, aren't properly labeled either
>>77108751
That's exactly my point.
No gun = end to gun violence.
Show me a single recent australian mass shooting
>>77108561
Explain Chicago then
>>77108561
What the graph doesn't tell you is that more than 60% of gun deaths are suicide and that gun ownership to homicide rates have little to no correlation.
>>77108561
The states with more minorities (excluding Alaska) are more violent. Yep Australia, we know we have a niggger and spic problem.
>>77109608
Are you seriously this retarded? I bet the earth is flat too!
>>77110188
A fucking well educated leaf
>>77110126
Lindor cafe
>>77108561
>States with more blacks and latinos have more gun deaths
/Libtards/ = stumped
>>77110126
yes but the argument isnt that less guns will lead to less gun violence. This is obvious. Proponents of gun control advance the idea that less guns=less overall violence and then back their idea with shitty stats. We know less guns=less gun deaths, what people are saying is that less guns =/= less total deaths
>>77110261
Ban guns and ban blacks, why is this so hard?
>>77109901
Now imagine if every abdullah or Ahmed had a gun
>>77108561
Garbage graph with no axis labels, no sources, no explanation of data (suicides vs homicides) goes directly into the trash
If you keep including suicides, the numbers always get bigger.
>>77110255
>>77110255
The only people that died were the ones which were killed by the police.
A mass shooting is where more than 4 people are killed. 2 people died that day. 2...
>>77110401
and gun murders with total murders.
>>77108561
But let's talk about total murder numbers...
>>77110347
>They back their ideas with stats
>BUT LESS GUNS EQUAL SAME OR MORE DEATHS
No wonder Americans are perceived as stupid.
>>77108561
>Countries with more lions have more lion related deaths
>Coastal cities have more drowning deaths
etc etc what the fuck do you expect?
>>77110616
Nope. A mass shooting is one where four or more people are injured. A mass murder is four or more murdered.
ah yes the violent hellholes that are South Dakota, Alaska, and Montana.
>77110753
>They back their ideas with stats
I know you're baiting and trolling which is why i'm sageing (it's painfully obvious, straya, you're better than this)
but what stats? you keep ignoring people pointing out there's no source or explanation of the data
>>77108751
fpbp
Also black-on-black gun death is all part of population control
>>77108561
those are suicides
60% of gun deaths in usa are suicides
>>77108751
Cars are vital to our economy and the positives at outweigh the negatives, what do guns contribute to society?
>>77108561
That's a very dumb graph.
>>77110892
>when you have to argue pendantics just to have a point
>>77108561
How many of those gun deaths are homicides?
>>77111428
suicide is a human right
>>77110753
That was a Canadian, famalam. But seriously it's ok man you can calm down. The Emu's are gone, you can relax there's no reason to be so riled up.
>>77111587
In theory, they prevent tyranny. All of this is irrelevant because abridging the2nd will take a constitutional convention; not happening.
>>77108561
>guy on the terrorist watch list who was investigated by the FBI twice could legally purchase a high capacity semi-automatic rifle with no waiting period or background check
MURIKKKA
Everyone coming here to unironically try to prove this guy wrong: Ignore it, shills are in full force today.
go home, hug your gun, have a good day. I will dump some pics and leave
>>77112605
>>77112631
>>77108561
idk that whole graphic is stupid as shit and hopes that the viewer assumes that more deaths = higher proportionate amount of gun deaths.
maybe states with more guns have more people. more people leads to more deaths
>>77112660
States with more guns have more blacks. Except Alaska.
>>77110126
hang on I've got some pasta for you courtesy of one of your non-retarded brothers
1/2
Our ex prime minister john howard got on your tv last night to LIE to your nation that gun control worked down under.
I am here to give you the real facts and dispute every single one of his lies with cited sources. Your job is then to save all these facts and BTFO anyone who tries to lie that aussie gun control worked. You will prevent the tragedy that happened to us happening in your nation and perhaps even redpill a few of my own countrymen as to the lies we've been fed.
>John howard claimed we have not had a mass shooting since port arthur
We have had FOUR since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
The hunt family murders
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/hunt-family-murders-witness-describes-final-night-at-family-home-20151006-gk2vo5.html
The recent sydney seige
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-gunman-man-monis-was-a-radicialised-terrorist-us-expert-says-20150824-gj6wlm.html
Now time for some bonus points. Last week in victoria we've had 15 shootings, source below. We also had ANOTHER seige in sydney in the last week.
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/03/12/03/33/vic-records-15-shootings-in-eight-days
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/sydney-ingleburn-gunman-dead-in-siege-after-fatal-shooting/7226058
This is the first lie they push about our country. That the violence stopped. It did not stop, it has been brutally supressed due to gag and control orders on our media.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/australian-court-gagging-order-abuse-legal-process
I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime.
Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".
>>77113272
Australia is having an increase in crime, and has had one since the gun ban in 1997. Gun crime HAS gone down, yet what anti-gunners will not tell you is that it was dropping BEFORE the ban.
Link: http://www.ssaa.org.au/ilasep98.html
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/44e7066a7d173...
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/how-has-heightened-gun-control-worked-in
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/opinion/chi-the-failure-of-gun-control-in-australia-20130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
Did you know: one in ten of all guns seized by police from criminals in Australia is a DIY submachine gun?
Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/
As you can see here:
>Assault rose
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime/assault.html
>Sexual assault rose for 5-6 years following, before dropping off. Kidnapping also rose.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
>>77108561
The states with the most cars have more car wrecks. How do we solve this problem?
>To those Americans who say the answer for to gun violence is to have more guns, explain this shit.
You're right! BAN NIGGERS!
>>77108561
>>77113676
The guy who just murdered 50+ people was white you fucking moron.
>inb4 hurr hurr implying le muslims are white I'm going to shift goalposts for this one incident then go back to arguing Indians are white in another thread durr durr
>>77108561
the madmen gunlovers still defend their gunz lel
>>77108561
If you include suicide. I live in Montana, there's really no crime at all.
>>77113924
>omar sadiqi mateen
>was white
okay there
>>77113924
Blacks commit 52% of murders even though they're 13.2% of the population.
>>77111587
Killing thieves and rapists who try to steal your person and property.
Guns are also the final check on governmental tyranny. If the politicians get out of hand and someone will start popping them. They know this and adjust their behavior accordingly.
>>77108561
>suicide, the graph
>>77108751
F
P bp
>>77108561
>gun (((deaths)))
