Does this include shootings by young black gang members?
>>77044417
No that's racist
All white male shooters in gay bars, planned parenthood clinics, or in transgender bathrooms. All 133 of them. Do you even watch the news?
>>77044417
Why would it???
>>77044417
Of course it does. Don't bother bringing up to lefties though.
>>77044417
I guarantee it.
>Mass shootings
>"BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE SHOOTINGS THAT AREN'T MASS BUT FIT MY NARRATIVE!"
Also, the black on black crime meme is nonsense. Whites kill each other at pretty similar rates. In short: not an argument
Probably. A mass shooting is defined as anything with 2 or more casualties, I think
>>77044417
yes, it does
but the definition of "mass shooting" is retarded
let's say a black guy and another black guy are shooting at each other. one of them dies. cops respond to the scene and exchange some gunfire with the black guy but subdue him. this is classified as a mass shooting.
>>77044417
and only like 3 of those got any media coverage at all.
hmmmmmmmm
>>77044781
Gonna need a source on that.
>>77045076
This is from the FBI's website. You can just google interracial crime statistics
>>77045486
Now break those results down so they're per capita, faggot.
>>77045486
that would only be valid if white and blacks had the same population
if blacks are 15% of the population and whites are 65%, yet they're committing the same amount of murders, that's not exactly a good defense for you
>>77044979
Naah senpai - it's more than 4 people.
>>77045608
So? That's not the point of the argument. I said the black on black meme is bullshit, someone asked for data and I provided it. Don't get pissed at me for handing out data.
>>77045486
Blacks are only 13% of the population yet they have killed almost as many people as whites. If anything that information makes blacks look even worse.
>>77045867
Data you don't understand apparently
>>77045608
>>77045729
>>77045937
>Present statistics
>Damage control team charges in
lol
>>77044417
>mass shootings
What exactly counts as "mass" these days?
Technically no, but the shootings they're citing definitely do.
>>77045981
What don't I understand? Shilling the "black on black crime" meme is stupid since these statistics prove that white people murder white people at about the same rate as black people murder black people
Don't blacks account for 75% of mass shootings?
>>77044417
No, those shootings were planned for.
>>77046235
Do you understand what the term "rate" means?
>>77046067
you presented statistics that hurt your own argument
if a group of 15 people is responsible for killing 100 people, and another group of 65 people is responsible for killing 100 people, wouldn't you say that the group of 15 is, on average, much more dangerous?
>>77046235
>>77046235
No they don't. The white homicide rate is far lower than the black one
>>77046235
>60% of the population commit crimes at the same rate as 10%
>>77044417
yes
any shooting where more than 2 people get hit (not even killed) is a mass shooting to libs
so if some gang banger shoots up his rivals crackden and injures 3 people its a mass shooting
same for when some loser murder suicides his family
>We're 164 days into 2016
>>77044417
Thanks Obama.
>>77044417
Considering that Obama's Justice dept redefined 'mass shooting' to mean 4+ people shot (not necessarily killed) in a single incident, thus conflating lone gunmen mowing down school halls with Tyrone and da boiz doing a drive by, it very well might.
'Mass shootings' as traditionally defined are still statistically anamalous.
>>77045867
>Whites tend to aggregate geographically around other whites
>Blacks and hispanics tend to as well
>The fact that most murders are done by those of the same race is somehow profound
>Per capita is a meme, confounding variables are a meme
>I failed Stats 101
>I said the black on black meme is bullshit
And you furthermore misrepresent the 'black on black' meme.
The fact that most races are likely- taking the total data- to be killed by their own race is immaterial when compared to the facts that
>Murder is higher among blacks
>One is disproportionately more likely to be killed by someone who is black
Even /leftypol/ doesn't argue this poorly.
>>77044417
yes
stop asking
>>77046654
>>77044417
>>We're 164 days into 2016
>>77046235
>can't remember the definition of rate
>>77044417
Show the pictures of all of the niggers that carried them out, vox kikes.
>>77045486
these stats always throw the spics in with whites
>>77044417
>there have been 133 mass shootings
>we've made mention of only 5 personally
>why are we so racist?
also
>vox
>>77045867
Your own data disproved your own argument. You said whites "kill each other at similar rates". Therefore you must correct for percentage of population to get the RATE.
Blacks are only 18% of the population.
They're using their own special snowflake definition of mass shooting (essentially, any time someone gets shot in a public place) instead of the accepted FBI definition (4 or more people *KILLED* in a single incident).
That's how they achieve these ridiculous figures that they tout in clickbait articles and image macros.
It's 2016, racist like op is not allowed on /pol/
>>77046143
I think it's something like 2 or more persons shot but not necessarily killed
>black on black meme anon got BTFO
Good thread
>>77046235
>rate
>>77046421
Fair enough, I should have phrased it more precisely: of murder committed, black people murder each other at the same rate as white people. Black people murder more, of course, but as I'm sure you've already been told, one of the strongest correlating factors of violence is the socioeconomic status of not only the perpetrator but also the criminals parents. Taking a look at poverty rates, whites sit around 12% whereas blacks sit around upwards of 25%.
Of course this isn't excusing violence, but it's important to identify causes rather than just saying "well they're black so that's why."
>>77046440
Read the thread. I brought the statistic up to talk about SPECIFICALLY black on black crime.
>>77046235
Consider being less stupid for five seconds.
>>77047300
God damn I think you really are that stupid and not trolling. Either that or you're spewing jewish chutzpah.
>>77047499
Not an argument
>>77045770
No it isn't
>>77044781
>>77045486
>>77045867
>>77046067
>>77046235
Holy fuck, you need to get rid of common core right now
>>77047300
You just rectified the black on black killing meme
>>77044417
Yeah, I think that is the only way it could be this high. There have not been 162 media frenzied reports about an unhinged white male shooting people this year.
>>77047300
anybody have the data on white violent crime in Michigan I think? That large area with a largely impoverished white population. I can't for the life of me remember what the area is called or I'd try to find it myself.
Grade A banter for your troubles
>pic related
>>77047300
>Whites and blacks murder at same rate
>Blacks murder more
Nice contradiction.
>Economic status is a factor
It doesn't excuse the fact they commit more crime. Also prove how this can be a factor of crime rather than their own inferiority for not getting out of the situation.
>>77044417
Feels good to not live in a 3rd world country
>>77045486
Also they classify Hispanic men as white...
>>77047300
See>>77048539
Also check this out.
>>77046935
thank you i was hoping someone knew this
We're 164 days into 2016. We've had 694 Terrorist Attacks. Over 90% were carried out by muslims
yes, there have only been like 3 high profile mass shootings this year
>>77048848
But those statistics are racist!
I honestly can't think of a news service that I despise more than Vox recently. They have somehow surpassed Salon in terms of my hatred for them.
>>77046235
If you were to use your logic toward any administrative pursuit, say on a UN Committee to reduce crime in Africa or some such thing, you would be rightfully laughed out. E.g.:
>Be living in Angola
>What don't I understand? Shilling the "Congolese on Angolan crime" meme is stupid since the statistics prove that Angolans murder other Angolans at about the same rate as Congolese murder other Congolese
>Never mind those crossing the border from DRC into Angola and committing murders in disproportionate amounts
>Never mind the higher murder rate of DRC relative to Angola
>>77044417
Um, the only crimes that imvolve black people are done by police to black people? It's 2016 you racist Drumpfkins.
>>77044781
>>77045486
>>77045867
>>77046067
>>77046235
You have to be fucking trolling, I refuse to believe anyone is this fucking stupid.
And somebody should tell Vox the last two American mass shootings of 10 or more fatalities were Orlando and San Bernadino. What's the commonality? Eat a fucking dick Ezra
>>77046262
>Mass shootings
Depends what you consider a 'mass shooting'.
Traditional mass shootings:
>One or two gunmen, rifle, enclosed building, 10+ deaths
were and are anamalous, but IIRC mostly committed by Whites.
Obama Justice Dept definition of'mass shooting:
>4+ people shot in a single incident
Mostly gang crime, disproportionately black, then hispanic, then white, then asian.
>>77049148
The commonality is people with untreated mental disorders. The only religiously motivated crimes are attacks on Women's Health™ Clinics done by white CIShet Christian men.
>>77049354
>AZNz
>Shooting
If they added using grolious Nippon steer then those rates would go up.
>>77049575
Don't forget the previous record holder
>>77049988
Could have done better if he used grolious steer
>>77047300
>one of the strongest correlating factors of violence is the socioeconomic status
Which itself as a factor is beaten out by race (or 'self identified race' if you're a 'RIASC' mantra spouter.
