licensed security guard
had a license to own an automatic weapon (insanely hard to get)
was under a fruitless FBI investigation
shot people in a gun free zone.
Wait....what gun control would stop this?
Seems like he went through an INSANE amount of background checks and government investigation that even gun control countries dont have and he still got away with it.
So....Why is there a push for gun control when it would have done literally nothing?
Being a muslim should automatically disqualify anyone from buying a gun.
Better yet, it should automatically disqualify anyone from entering the country.
>>76982765
this
>what gun control would stop this?
a blanket ban on private gun ownership
>>76982765
Can we ban all Semitic tribes from gun ownership? I'd prefer that.
>>76982325
>insanely hard
Not hard, just expensive.
>>76984065
ok, you hunt down over 300 million+ guns while the top 50 diseases each kill more Americans every year
>>76984065
Then what would stop him from just buying one from someone else who already has one?
>>76984263
well worth it, m8. well worth it.
>>76982765
fpbp
beware the patient man
>>76982325
But he didn't do a anything illegal so why the FBI would arrest him?
>>76984799
worth it? its literally impossible
>>76982765
Can't I just say that I'm...not a Muslim?
>>76985337
>he was a muslim, that's crime enough
>>76985337
exactly.
that just shows background checks are useless.
only way to stop mass shooters....SHOOTING THEM
A ban on private gun ownership outright.
>>76982325
>had a license to own an automatic weapon (insanely hard to get)
No it isn't you stupid fuck
>>76985407
seems appropriate for a country already waging wars against drugs and terrorism
Source for him being a security guard and having a legal fullauto?
>>76985518
again, impossible and doesnt work
>>76985548
depends on how much money you make and your background
>>76985806
Difficult because your country is so saturated with guns, but in the long term would eventually diminish incidents of this nature. I'm not suggesting door to door confiscation.
>>76982325
The solution is not banning guns.
The solution is teaching people that imaginary sky-daddies are not real.
>>76985806
>doesn't work
k senpai lol
Everyone who understands a little bit of psychology knows what happened here.
>Be a homosexual
>Be brought up in a culture that teaches homosexuality is an abomination
>Develop self-denying and self-hating tendencies
>Suppress own nature to the point of total psychosis
>The suppressed homosexual tendencies in the Unconcious come back to the surface in a distorted way, as "hatred towards OTHER homosexuals"
>End your meaningless, self-denying existence and die as a "hero of Allah" in the eyes of others instead of a "faggot" - win-win situation
>>76985782
ill post them in a minute, but allegedly he was a security gaurd for a government agency.
>>76986002
no it will INCREASE these incidents
>>76986058
name one place where it works....i'll wait.
>>76985739
>This coming from a country where you can get arrested fro owning a plastic knife.
Yeah that worked out great for you there buddy. How's that knife murder rate treating you?
>>76984170
this
>>76984065
>implying gun bans worked
>>76986395
pretty good, honestly.
>>76984065
There are more than half a billion unregistered guns currently in circulation in the US.
Good luck.
>>76986977
and we cut in half our ENTIRE crime rate while allowing more guns to be owned.
SO SOMETHING DOESNT CORRELATE HERE!!!
>>76984065
We've seen the results of that from your own country, Bonglander. No thanks.
>>76982765
Wow. . . really makes you think. . .
>>76982325
one extreme example doesn't mean that some gun regulation won't be effective in saving lives.
From a moral standpoint, if gun control saves 1 innocent person life than it is worth it.
This case might not be the best example, but lives would have undoubtedly been spared in sandy hook, aurora etc.
Seatbelt analogy applies here.
Sometimes they do nothing, sometimes there are still pile ups on the highway where multiple people get killed.
But they save lives often enough that a law to enforce wearing them is justified.
>>76982765
It does here
If you're from a muslim country you can't buy a gun, ever
>>76987584
From the same moral stand point, if lack of gun control saves one innocent life, it is worth removing gun control.
Liberals really are incapable of rational thought. It's sad.
>>76986184
Source please?
>>76984065
>Private ownership
>A licensed guard who'd probably get one issued anyway
Choose one, fuckboy.
>>76987584
>gun laws doing anything for sandy hook
His mom purchased the gun legally, how would tougher gun laws have stopped Lanza from killing his law abiding mother and taking her guns?
>>76986002
So instead of someone possibly being able to shoot someone attempting to go on a rampage they're able to go crazy and kill anyone in sight until police arrive? Even if you ban guns how do you stop this guy from walking in there with a working suicide vest and blowing it?
>>76987584
>one extreme example doesn't mean that some gun regulation won't be effective in saving lives.
no but all other evidence and stats and studies suggest we have TOO MUCH gun regulation.
"From a moral standpoint, if gun control saves 1 innocent person life than it is worth it."
except it doesnt. Guns SAVE 500,000 lives a year according to the CDC, other organizations have it in the millions.
That alone means gun control isnt the more MORAL stand point.
"but lives would have undoubtedly been spared in sandy hook, aurora etc."
they literally wouldnt have.
"Seatbelt analogy applies here.
Sometimes they do nothing, sometimes there are still pile ups on the highway where multiple people get killed."
Seatbelts do not CAUSE deaths except on motorcycles.
Gun control will CAUSE deaths
>>76986054
>mental illness will disappear without religion
I tip my fedora to you kind stranger!
>>76982325
Did he not buy the thing from a shop? Thats what gun control would stop. Clearly all of your precautionary measures arent bulletproof.
>>76982325
>had a license to own an automatic weapon (insanely hard to get)
That's not the way it works.
Really makes you think....
>>76982325
I sincerely doubt this asshole had a Class III FFL, or do you just not know the difference between full-auto and semi-auto?
>>76987627
He was a US citizen.
>>76982325
The rule should be that if you take duckface selfies you can't buy a gun.
>>76988786
If he can get a G-class security officer license he can just as easily be a Title 2 FFL dealer.
>>76987819
>A law enforcement source told CNN that Mateen worked as a private security guard. He rented a car and drove to Orlando to carry out the attack, the source said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen/index.html
>>76987821
Russian bro knows whats up
>>76982325
"AR in the homo bar" Omar
Why is he so fat?
Was he lashing out because aidsgays are skinnier than him?
>>76989483
crikey look at the bantz on that sheila
>>76982765
FPBP
>>76986977
Now I'm looking that up and you're right that murder rate fell. So all this time it was just fear mongering journalism? Also I'm inclined to believe >>76987377 is onto something.
>>76982765
Jock up motherfuckers. Time to take the country back.
>>76987816
We are talking about mass shootings here, removing gun control will only increase the death toll in mass shootings. If gun control could save one life in these situations it is worth.
>>76988007
They wouldn't, but a smaller magazine capacity would have reduced his rate of fire and forced him to reload more often, possibly giving people time to get away or maybe subdue him while he was reloading.
>>76988182
I am not using gun control as a code word for a total gun ban. They are useful and necessary and do save lives.
In self defense situations or civilian disputes the presence of a gun simply deters violence, multiple shots aren't fired, there isnt movie liek shootouts.. they wouldnt be put at risk by gun control at ll.
Seatbelts absolutely cause deaths, ask any paramedic or firefighter. They just save more lives than they take.
Smart gun control will not cause deaths, just mitigate these mass shootings.
>>76990184
>Smart gun control will not cause deaths, just mitigate these mass shootings.
smart gun control is hitting your target every time.
>>76990184
Oh. Now you want to limit it to mass shootings, which by definition only occur when the shooter isn't stopped.
Why don't you fuck off with your twisted liberal cunt logic, you useless faggot.
>>76982325
The truth is that gun control would do NOTHING to stop a terrorist from getting a gun. Libs are just fucking retarded and want to feel safe without doing anything of actual worth.
>>76989049
>He was a US citizen
I guess in the US everyone is kind of brown so you can't tell who is actually american
Muslims can't buy guns here even if they become citizens
>>76988786
This. There's no way Omar Snackbar had a full giggle switch on his AR-15. He had a Semi-Auto and I'm ashamed to be on a board with Americans who don't know the difference.
>>76987377
>>76990003
maybe you americans are just loonies then.
however, the argument that a private firearm ban would drastically reduce those numbers over the long term, is still a sound one, if only because it would make the crazy people less effective at killing others. and no, i'm not just talking about mass shootings.
even terrorists look like faggy millennials now
>>76991007
We are in a mass shooting thread, guncontrol can mitigate other forms of gun violence..barely.
>which by definition only occur when the shooter isn't stopped.
You are aware that we currently have the gun laws you want? Anybody in that club could have a concealed weapon permit and many probably did, but guess what?
Private venues have the right to refuse entry to people with weapons, and in a club setting with alcohol that will never change.
So stfu with this retarded notion that if we hand everyone a pistol then every would be mass shooter would be mowed down the second he started shooting.
People aren't trained for that shit.
Even with the college shooting a while back there were trained vets with weapons on them and they still didnt do shit.
>be at gaybar
>get shot in face
>gunman walks in
your argument is to let it happen rather than attempt gun control?
you're a fuckin idiot.
>>76984065
>HURR LEGALIZE WEED MAN PROHIBITION DOESNT WORK
>HURR BAN ALL GUNS, GUN PROHIBITION WORKS MANNN
fuck off retard.
>>76992844
>Gun bans would stop criminals from having guns
You're young and naive. Enjoy your ivory tower while it lasts, the ISIS horde is coming for you.
>>76993446
DELETE THIS
>>76986002
all we have to do is take away your rights and we can save upwards of 100 people each year from mass shootings!!
>>76991967
The mountain Jews know how to do it
>>76993236
You are literally trying to create a situation that you cannot lose by limiting any facts that run contrary to your retarded "if it saves one life narrative."
You don't get to claim "if it saves one life" then ignore every single other situation outside of your retarded little bubble where the same statement holds true.
You can't even argue well you little faggot. Fuck off back to your safe space and open up a coloring book or something.
>>76993728
a determined enough criminal will secure firearms (or worse) regardless. over the long term (10-20 years) those will become fringe cases. they key is to make firearm acquisition as inconvenient as possible.
over that period your gun fetish culture would probably also begin to dissipate.
perhaps you're just old and jaded. certainly short sighted though. a blanket gun ban might not save you from getting shot in your face but your grandkids would thank you for it.
Whenever islamic terrorism takes place nowadays, it's useful to remind everyone of other religions' atrocities that happened 500 years ago. Also, ban damn guns.
>>76982325
Is this about the guy who shot up the gay bar? Didn't they say that he claimed ties to terrorist organizations? They let him purchase firearms?
>>76994159
What situation am I ignoring?
Are you insinuating that guns save lives because they have high capacity magazines and people are surviving shootouts by pinning people down for 20 minutes?
You jumpedot the assumption that by gun control I meant banning guns, only a moron poltard thinks that what gun control means.
Please show me the "every single other situation" if you can argue so well and refrain from contradicting yourself by continuously insulting me.
I'll say it again because you seem slow to comprehend.
Smart gun control will mitigate the severity of the all too common mass shootings, while doing nothing to compromise the ability of anyone and everyone to protect themselves with a gun if they so choose too.
>>76994751
take away the rights of white people because niggers and mudslimes cant control themselves. the problem is not white people, and niggers kill mostly their own, the solution is evident GET RID OF ISLAM!
>>76984065
King George should've thought of that you fucking "wanker". Go get your ass beaten by a Russian like the "botty boy" you are.
>>76995119
i think he pledged allegiance to isis in a phone call with police right before the shooting
BAN ALL ASSAULT GUARDS
>>76995119
Dude was a security guard. Had access to a range of weapons. This was in a gun-free zone where guns are -not- allowed. There is a lot of gun control here. The next incremental increase in gun safety is to stop selling ammo to private security companies or ban guns all together.
>>76992844
>however, the argument that a private firearm ban would drastically reduce those numbers over the long term, is still a sound one,
No it isnt.
its proven to INCREASE crime and deaths.
>>76982325
Because big government ideologies (Liberalism) thrive best when it's citizens are unable to fight back. By disarming the country, Progressive Liberalism would thrive. Ergo, any opportunity to push this agenda is used, whether it makes sense or not.
>>76982325
All this Crisis Actor had was a license to ruse.
>normies are still leaving the house when there are crazy muslims shooting up places and shit
tfw i'll never be killed by a muslim
feels good
>>76982325
>FBI knew his connection to IS
>Government didn't do shit
YES usa
>>76995348
what are you on about?
>>76995521
alright then. i'm going to go out for a nice walk now.
feels good not having to worry about getting shot.
>>76995903
try not to get beheaded Abdul
>>76984263
It's simple. Go through the registries and alert everyone on them that they must turn in their weapons within a set period of time or face jail time. It's impossible to go into everyone's homes looking for guns but forcing them to come to you is much more pragmatic.
>>76982325
I have a question regarding this man. Can someone find out When he moved into the US? This is relevant to my interest in creating a time line where one can see the development of a individual of this nature.
>>76996479
>registries
Is this a fucking troll?
>>76982325
Because it's not about stopping faggots like him, it's about denutting the general population.
>>76996538
I think he was born in New York.
>>76982325
>had a license to own an automatic weapon
>was under a fruitless FBI investigation
>shot people in a gun free zone.
This was fucking planned. It's obvious that this was either staged, or the was brainwashed to do this so that Obama could try to take our guns away and push the gun laws even further.
>>76994866
bosniak mad that his family was killed by pissed off serbs in srebrenica?
Die in a hole kebab
>>76995273
According to Obama's 2013 CDC study, guns are used defensively far more often than they are used to take lives.
By your own "if it saves one life" retardation, gun control should be removed.
I pity liberals sometimes. You can't even come up with an argument that isn't invalid to begin with.
>>76987627
How can one country be so based?
Can i move to Switzerland?
I find it kind of ironic that this is the first terrorist attack that involves a muslim showing the true colors of Islam.
It sounds almost too logical for it to be a false flag. Granted if it was props to the Government for making it one that would start to attempt to wake lefties up to Islam's true colors.
The same FBI that is neutered and can't act on Hillary by our corrupt DOJ was not allowed to act on this guy. This in on the hands of Lynch
>>76995886
You don't think the US government actually wants to stop terror attacks do you?
No terror attacks = No convenient agenda pushing crises
>>76982325
>license to own an automatic weapon
okay so first off there is no """license""" for fully automatic firearms, the arms themselves are registered and have to be taxed by the govt if we're talking pre 86 machine guns. But seeing as how every scrurry black rifle is an "assault weapon" in the eyes of the public, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just some semi auto commercial spec AR15
>>76996479
>registries
Liberals, everyone.
Pro-tip for the liberal halfwit here. You might want to get that registry passed before you tell everyone you're going to use it to confiscate all of their weapons.
>>76997393
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/dea-drug-overdoses-kill-more-americans-car-crashes-or-firearms
>>76985410
Until someone takes your picture at a mosque (or sends that FB pic with him in a muzzie yarmulke to the FBI) and you can get busted for knowingly providing false information to a federal institution.
>>76996479
>registries
so you're proposing legislation on something you know N O T H I N G about? sounds like your typical liberal
>>76995508
which opens up the worlds largest black market
>>76996864
That's troubling..
>>76982765
Good point though in this case he was born in NY.... All Islamic people should either be deported, rounded up and contained, killed or at the very least be barred from owning any guns.
>>76982765
>>76998460
shall not be infringed
>>76995903
>alright then. i'm going to go out for a nice walk now.
>feels good not having to worry about getting shot.
have fun being mugged at knife point, fucker. I'll go out for a walk, sporting a 9mm not giving afuck because im an American and im allowed to do so.
>>76998426
>>76997985
Thanks for the (you)s friends :)
>>76998296
It's pretty amazing that gun deaths are close to car crash deaths desu
I would have guessed car crashes were like 3x higher
it wasnt a gun free zone you autist.
The bouncer had a gun and got shot in the fucking head.
>>76998672
Suicide is factored into 'gun deaths'. If you take out suicide and accidents, the numbers decline significantly.
>>76982765
Ban all sand niggers from owning them.
>>76982325
Terrorist Watchlist Gun Ban .
Can we all agree to this ?
>>76998672
they are 3x higher if you remove suicides
>>76997393
Are you even reading my post?
Currently there is little gun control, removing it will change next to nothing.
To tackle the problem of mass shooters gun control can be implemented in a way that affects a person with the intention of committing mass murder and not just owning a gun for self defense.
>>76998329
>born in malaysia
>raised muslim
>never been to a mosque now that i've moved out
so would I still qualify?
>>76999144
thats all libertarians and conservatives though
>>76982325
>50 dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
>only people dead were the terrorists.
Please explain this to me burgerbros : your whole country is allowed to bear arms but those faggots today couldn't defend themselves with their own weapons?
>>76986769
How many mass shootings has Australia had since they introduced a ban?
>>76999144
terrorist watchlist is unfortunately useless. its over crowded, they put people who just work with or interact with the suspect on the list. you'd be taking away the rights of a lot of normal people.
>>76990184
>be progressive
>ban guns to prevent gun deaths
>use guns to enforce gun ban
>increase size of government exponentially
>economy collapsing, insurrections fomenting
>government tries to use guns to put down insurrection caused by gun ban
>massive inflation, international sanctions
>civil war: part doux
>federal government faces extreme attrition rates
>have to bring in foreign troops just to hold small areas
>republic is restored after 18 months of fighting
>traitors hanged on capital steps
>840,000 americans, 112,000 foreign troops dead
>$17 trillion in damages
>end up with more gun rights than ever
Kek.
It's like liberals skipped the part of 20th century where governments killed over 200 million people.
>>76998672
"Gun deaths" includes murder, suicide, accidental shootings, police shootings, and justified self defense shootings.
If a liberal uses the phrase gun deaths, they're lying to you.
And keep in mind, there are only 253 million cars or so in the US. There are half a billion guns.
>>77000000 get
Fuck islam
>>76982325
>wake up
>hear of a mass shooting
>o fuk
>turn on [spoiler]CNN[/spoiler]
>its a mudslime
HNNNG. hell yes. maybe this will be the push that gets all these allah akbars out of the goddamn country
>>76999636
it was a gun free building, blame liberal assholes
>>76999337
Little gun control? Are you high or just retarded?
Honestly, how can we even have this conversation? You're completely ignorant of the laws you live under and you're using an enormously retarded argument to demand more laws.
You're making yourself look like a complete idiot.
Last chance. Explain what laws you want that would only affect people intending to commit mass murder without affecting people who want to own a gun for self defense. Be extremely specific.
>>76999679
that terror hostage crisis
>>77000429
You should have been awake at 4AM, been part of the happening threads. Eyewitness reports made it clear from the get-go that the shooter was a muzzie terrorist.
>>76999910
but dont you get it, we could save probably like 8,000 people a year by taking away your rights.
>>76985410
Then all that's needed is a faith test:
>airport floor made of open qurans
>REQUIRED to eat bacon before boarding
Real simple tests.
>>77000703
iirc the quran says you can break its rules if you do it to trick an infidel
>>76999679
How many did they have before? See here's the argument when you use statistical anomalies to argue for more laws. It makes you look like a halfwit.
In any case, they've had two.
>Monash University shooting - In October 2002, Huan Yun Xiang, a student, shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five.
>2011 Hectorville siege - A mass shooting that took place on Friday, April 29, 2011, in Hectorville, South Australia. It began after a 39-year-old male, Donato Anthony Corbo, went on a shooting rampage, killing three people and wounding a child and two police officers, before being arrested by Special Operations police after an eight-hour siege.
Their nutters have switched to fire as the preferred method of murder.
>Churchill Fire - 10 confirmed deaths due to a deliberately lit fire.
>Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire - 10 confirmed and as many as 21 people may have died as a result of a deliberately lit fire in a Quakers Hill nursing home.
>>76986119
Underrated post. Nice job Slavoj.
>>76993446
god damn it anon turn in your bants. Do It for my sides.
>>77000697
>>77000697
>probably like 8,000
>probably like
Yeah you could save lives by putting everyone in concentration camps too.
>>77000890
Based taqiyyah, letting muzzies lie and doesn't afraid of anything except the light of truth
>all these cucks form eurocuck defending gun control
FUCK YOU, FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.
LOOK AT THE SHITHOLE WHERE I LIVE, FUCKING HUEZIL, THERE IS NIGGERS WALKING WITH ASSAULT RIFLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING STREET AND I CANT HAVE MY FUCKING GUN.
FUCK, THESE KEKS WILL GONNA FUCKING DESTROY CIVILIZATION.
>>76992844
Like your country?
>>77000697
the VAST MAJORITY of those are done by illegally acquired guns you mongoloid
>>77001330
I wish I could get that fucking hard-to-get permit in my country
>>77000582
I already did explain. Reduced magazine capacity. For rifles, handguns are primary weapons used for self defense so they cant be touched. it obviously wont eliminate it all, but liek I said before if someone has to reload multiple times to shoot 30 rounds it gives people a chance.
There is very little gun control, I can get a gun so amazingly easy... I can also apply and get a concealed carry permit with some paperwork.
Are you mad about the automatic weapon ban? You dont seriously think that should be allowed right?
>>77001174
what is sarcasm?
>>77001711
Handguns make up by far the most murder here you stupid fuck. Banning """"assault rifles"""" does nothing when almost no one used them for murder.
>>76998450
Yeah. Just like Paris. It's the 2nd generation immigrants you need to worry about.
>>76999144
you post on /pol/. you'd be on that list, mate.
still support it?
>>77001667
I know how you feel bro.
>>77001711
You claimed you could come up with a law that didn't affect the law abiding and now you are calling for a law that specifically affects the law abiding.
It was a nice try, for a retard. I guess.
>>77001482
the number is also incredibly small in the grand scheme of things. 300million people live here and only around 11,000 die from firearm murders each year. taking away a human right to maybe save <.001% of population is just retarded. its unfortunate that people dies but you cant save everyone
>>77000988
It's disappointing that you put forth so much effort to spread misinformation.
How many did they have before? Many.
Hope Forest massacre - 6 September 1971 - 10 killed
Campsie murders 24 September 1981 - 5 killed
Wahroonga murders 1 June 1984 - 5 killed
Top End Shootings June 1987 - 5 killed
Milperra massacre 2 September 1984 - 7 killed
Canley Vale Huynh family murders 10 October 1987 - 5 killed
Strathfield massacre 17 August 1991 - 7 killed
Central Coast massacre 27 October 1992 - 6 killed
Port Arthur massacre 28 April 1996 - 35 killed
Hillcrest Murders 25 January 1996 - 6 killed
There's more but you get the point. HOPEFULLY
>>77001999
Checked
I do ,I post here ,I'm conservative & no problem flying on airplanes.
Loosen that tin fedora.
licensed security guard
had a license to own an automatic weapon (insanely hard to get)
was under a fruitless FBI investigation
shot people in a gun free zone.
On watchlist(nothing done)
>>77001711
You explained poorly and your opinions are retarded. It doesn't matter if the gun holds 30 rounds or 10, if nobody in the crowd is armed it doesn't matter how many rounds you have, you can kill them at your leisure.
>Automatic weapon ban
Literally accomplished NOTHING. Nobody uses automatics for shootings, they're not useful. You use automatic fire for suppression or for fun at the range, even soldiers fire on single 90% of the time.
>I can get a gun so amazingly easy
Yeah, you can make one in your garage in two hours with a drill press and a lathe. Gun control doesn't work. Get fucked you troglodyte, if you want to feel safe go buy a pistol. If one of those faggots had had a gun they might've saved 50 of their fuckbuddies.
>>77001833
are the same guy, he specifically asked what methods could be used to mitigate mass shootings. Most of the mass shootings have people with semi auto rifles.
I know handguns make up most murder...
Wait are you saying we really should lift the ban on automatic rifles?
No one used them for self defense either.. there is no point to them besides goign to the range and feeling liek a badass shooting a bunch of bullets
>>77002381
>ten
>over the course of three decades
>many
It really is a mental illness.
>>76985739
and poverty. don't forget the war on poverty (TM)
>>77002728
Another way to put it is they had infinitely less gun related ones after they were removed.
>>76989049
>being born in the US automatically makes you a burger
kek
>>77003138
By infinitely less, I think you meant 20%.
Of course we're already talking about a statistical anomaly.
You probably should have taken statistics instead of basket weaving. It'd help you look less retarded.
>>77001711
Know what this is? A legal 5 round magazine in Canada. HURRRRRRRRR
It's a box with a spring in it dipshit, you cannot sell ANY ammo magazine that cannot be modified to feed larger amounts.
>>76982325
It's more master memetic warfare by trump.
getting caught was part of the plan.
they expect one of us in the wreckage.
>>77001481
the fuck happened in 2002?
>>77003653
Show me one? Just ONE?
>>77002159
It doesn't affect the law abiding citizen in any significant way... can you elaborate instead of insulting?
>>77002527
It does matter, it gives people more time to run and cops more time to arrive. 30 extra seconds can save so many lives in a situation where people are running for exits, moving for cover etc.
the reason auto weapons werent widely used is because of the restriction put on getting them since 1934..
You raged about there being gun control laws out the wazoo and you cant support that.. or maybe it wasnt you
Private venues especially clubs will enver allow guns inside, so even if we had your perfect gun paradise the guy would still have been able to go there and slaughter everyone.
>>76987377
crime rats have gone downhill everywhere in the western world. plus, from google
>While the United States represents about 4.4 percent of the world's population, it houses around 22 percent of the world's prisoners.
>3.2 percent of the population is under some form of correctional control
so, basically, your country is a (very profitable) jail :^)
>>76982325
>was under a fruitless FBI investigation
They had their C team on this guy
A team was watching 4chan posters
>>77001481
1997 was the year Blair sold our borders. I've got no proof but I can confidently say the rise in crime was due to an increase in pakis, niggers and probably even slavs.
>>77003822
Seatbelt analogy applies again here.
Just because it is not 100 percent effective does not mean that it is a worthless endeavor.
Maybe he doesnt know or think to modify the magazine, maybe he does and makes a mistake and his gun jams because of it.
Maybe we make better reduced capacity mags that cannot be modified so easily.
Lots of options. efforts should be made
>>77004622
>implying we don't get the /b/ team
>>77004622
>french polynesia
how's the internet there? a friend had about 50 kB/s there when lucky
>>76982325
OP, are you retarded? Automatic weapons are illegal to own in the U.S.
There is no such thing as an "assault" rifle. More people are killed in vehicle accidents than gun crimes. Do we call them "assault" cars? No. A rifle is a rifle. It releases only one bullet for each pull of the trigger, just like a handgun. The AR-15 only looks like the military rifle but shares little else. It is not even a good rifle for anything but for looking at. You would never go hunting with an AR-15 because it is not a good weapon when compared to rifles designed for hunting.
Stop being a Marxist shill who yells "assault" rifle without knowing what you are actually saying.
>>77004279
They were already posted you illiterate cunt.
>>76996479
What are these "registries"?
>>77004807
I'll do it once the government does it to our military and law enforcement first.
>>77004300
You said it wouldn't affect law abiding citizens, now you've walked that back to "won't affect them in any significant way."
Thanks for playing, retard. You lose.
>>76982325
SPREAD TO THE NORMIES
#RAMADAN
#LGBTQIslam
>>76987627
What about Swiss born kebab, can they own them.
>>77005003
>Posts 2 arson related incidents
>Claims there's been some fictional number of gun related mass murders since the ban without any specifcs
>>76984065
ID TAG SOLDIERS USE ID TAG GUNS, ID TAG GEAR
>>77004807
>Seatbelt analogy applies again here.
Just because it is not 100 percent effective does not mean that it is a worthless endeavor.
Can we apply that same analogy to banning immigration from Muslim countries, surveilling mosques, and registering Muslims in the country now?
>>77004807
let me explain something.
if a seatbelt KILLS more than it saves, then morally its wrong. However they save more than kill in cars.
Gun contorl KILLS more thna it saves, Gun ownership SAVES 50 times more at the LEAST, than it kills.
therefore, gun ownership is moral, and gun control is wrong.
>>76984065
Nigel, NO!
>>77004933
>Automatic weapons are illegal to own in the U.S.
false.
you're allowed to own them with AFT approval and a liscense.
Also an assault rifle by military definition is any rifle firing an intermediate round with switch fire capabilities.
Also i didnt SAY assault rifle in the OP you retard.
>>77005120
I was trying to adjust to your opinion. I dont think it will affect citizens at all, I was hoping that you would admit at the very least that it has an insignificant effect even from your perspective.
Do you want to move on to the argument of whether your perceived effect on gun owners is severe or conseqeuntial enough to justify not making an attempt to mitigate mass shooting by reducing rifle capacity?
Probably not, you dont make arguments you nitpick other peoples in a obnoxious attempt to feel smart without saying anything.
>>77004490
Corretional control is mostly probation and parole you non-white animal. If we could remove non-whites from our country things would be fine. Unfortunately about a third of our population are at an earlier stage in evolution (black and hispanic), mimicking human behaviors. When they go unsupervised, they are violent, sociopathic criminals.
>>76982325
>was under a fruitless FBI investigation
What does that even mean? How can it be fruitless if he was under surveillance?
>>77006205
wow the gun control phrase really triggers you huh?
So you know for a fact that reducing magazine capacity in rifles will end up in more deaths than lives saved?
Where do you pull these amazing statistics from?
How would you respond to this picture /pol/
>>76982325
>be a security guard
>be a sandnigger too
Im scared
Where is the current Orlando happening thread?
>>77006972
I'm a gun owner not a Muslim.
I have vested interest in one, not the other.
>>77001330
Eurocucks are falling for the "ban guns" meme, they are like little babies.
>>77006796
he was under 2, they found no wrong doing or connections.
therefore, fruitless, it lead to nothing.
>>77006933
>So you know for a fact that reducing magazine capacity in rifles will end up in more deaths than lives saved?
yes
and it wont matter because you're retarded.
>Where do you pull these amazing statistics from?
FBI, CDC, articles on the matter, individual cases, the fact i know how guns work and know mag caps dont make any fucking difference.
>>76984065
>Americans replying to this unironically
>>76985516
Security guards aren't allowed AR-15s here. We have 500,000 Muslims, yet only one (who coincidentally also used to be a security guard) has decided to go on a rampage, and they killed a grand total of 1 person because the only gun they could find was an antique shotgun that held 2 rounds. Looks like our gun control has worked pretty well m9.
>>76985548
Ummm if it was full auto, yes they are pretty hard to get
>>77008034
Fucking So?
what about all of these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia
>>77006796
>What does that even mean? How can it be fruitless if he was under surveillance?
50 dead phaggots
>>77007759
Listen, to be frank, you don't know shit.
You are tiresome, once again claiming to know shit and not backing it up with anything besides saying "I know" over and over.
There is nothing to debate with you so like I initially said, the only response I can give at the point is you don't know shit.
>>77007759
>he was under 2, they found no wrong doing or connections.
What does under 2 mean? Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable on the jargon. But I am really curious about how the system works.
At the shooting range I hit up with my cousin, the owner once said that my cousin was going to be on the watch list for buying a shit ton of bullets at once. They were on sale and he had money. It made sense, but I guess that warrants surveillance. Every single bullet was used at the range for fun over the span of months. Just creeps me out that he was being watched for enjoying a hobby.
>>76996479
kek
>>76982325
If this thread isn't proof that the UK deserves to fall to the horde I don't know what it.
>>76982325
This needs to be turned into a "when the gay club is just right" meme.
>>77007920
>Americans getting triggered by obvious bantz
Sounds about right to me.
>>77008140
Expensive moreso than difficult
>>77006585
>I dont think it will affect citizens at all
And you're wrong. I live in CA and I have to put up with BS 10 round mags, meanwhile every single criminal has all the 30 rounders they want.
Once libshits get 10 rounds, then they go for 5 because the 10 round ban won't stop anything. Then they go for 1. Then an outright ban on all guns. Then a ban on knives.
Liberal faggots never stop, so yeah go fuck yourself. Not one inch to you shitbags.
Piece of shit feds knew about this!!!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/isis-announced-florida-attack-three-days-ago/
>>76984065
Define "private". Should police be allowed to own guns? They're "private citizens".
>>77008418
>What does under 2 mean? Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable on the jargon. But I am really curious about how the system works.
He was under 2 seperate FBI investigations, but niether one resulted in any evidence for poof of wrong doing.
Then this shit happens
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/isis-announced-florida-attack-three-days-ago/
>>77008334
You'll notice that we haven't had a public gun massacre since 1996 mdm8 :^). All of the 4 or so "massacres" since then have been domestic incidents, which happen with such ridiculous regularity in the US they don't even make national news.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
You've had over 10 in 1 WEEK!!!
Amerilard BTFO
>>76982325
Was the rifle he used a full auto machine gun or a semi-auto?
Hard to get that info since no media outlet understands the difference.
>>76999384
Are you still a practicing Muslim and Don you put on census forms that you are? If so then yes, if not then no. Don't lie though Chang, or you'll get the boot
>>76993446
>>77006741
>I didn't read and don't give a fuck about your opinion lol
>>77009246
It was an assault rifle with the bit that goes up m8.
>>77009191
you mean gangland related shootings.
And so?
why should i care?
i dont care if literally the entire world dies of gun violence, giving up a right is not something im willing to do.
and it shows YOU FUCKERS STILL HAVE MASS KILLINGS!
>>76982765
No bigot, Muslims should have the same rights as all of us - including the ability to unilaterally launch thermonuclear missiles.
We must give them the benefit of the doubt, or someone will call us racist and we will feel a boo in our tummies.. lol
>You can ban people from flying
>You can't ban people from purchasing guns
Come on America
>>77009779
the fuck am i reading?
>>77000703
>no vegans allowed
I am for it.
>>76982765
>claim you are Christian when you are in fact mudslime
>get into USA
>buy gun
Try again faggot
>>77009883
You're right, we shouldnt ban people from either.
>>76985410
Can you look at an extremely insulting depiction of Muhammad without freaking out?
>>76982325
They want guns gone from citizens and will do anything to make it happen and now we care more about faggots then children so will cry over them.
>>76999636
Faggots are overwhelmingly libshits.
Guns scare them and they vote to ban them.
You really think a building full of homos grinding on each other and sucking dick while horrible EDM music plays is going to have even one gun in it?
That building was full of the people you see holding rainbow Hillary or Bernie 4 Prez signs and calling Trump supporters idiots on Twitter.
You know how far this mudshit would've got on his bodycount before getting dropped if he tried this shit at a place where normal people go?
A good example was the 2 jihadist fucks who tried to snackbar the "Draw Muhammad" art show in Texas.
They were strapped to hell and back and only managed to graze a security guard before getting lit up by a concealed carry citizen.
>>77009918
The harsh reality of the policies you support, my friend.
>>77010026
>Show picture of Muhammed
>Freaks out
>Lied about being Christian
Try again faggot.
>>77006585
We already had a magazine ban from 1994 to 2004. It affected law abiding citizens significantly by making the price of normal capacity magazines ten times as expensive as they were.
Face it retard. You have no argument. Criminals don't obey laws. Any law you pass will affect the law abiding because they are the people, by definition, who obey whatever retarded fucking law you pass.
Your movement may be dying, but holy fuck, you refuse to go quietly.
>>77010257
No, the tweet, you nigger.
i dont care what fucking gun he uses.
Im not supporting gun control.
>>77009822
You're quite autistic, aren't you? You have more die in ONE WEEK in mass shootings than we have in
TWENTY YEARS
And all you can say is "m-m-muh rights". I just feel safe in the knowledge you're quite literally 2000%+ percent more likely to be murdered by a gun than me. (Aus gun homicide rate: 0.13/100,000, US: 3.14/100,000). KEK.
>>77010605
So you'll be stabbed to death instead, faggot.
>>77008789
And if you need any proof that 10 rounds is only the starting point, you need look no further than liberal new york.
>>77010605
>You have more die in ONE WEEK in mass shootings than we have in
those arent mass shootings, they're gangland shootings WHERE THEY GET ILLEGAL WEAPONS ANYWAY
you dumb faggot.
also look at the fucking demogrpahics and populations and geography.
We should also ban virgins from gun ownership, seems like these shootings are a lot from them as well
I don't mean to upset most of /pol/, I just want safety
>>77011019
So buy a gun and you'll be safe. This is not rocket science. 2 muslims only took down some 6 jews in Tel aviv because they were gunned down on the spot. One muslim here takes down fifty faggots because faggots don't carry any firepower.
>>77011019
>I just want safety
What a fag.
>>77011019
>>77011019
woman detected. Freedom ain't safe bitch.
>>76982325
>So....Why is there a push for gun control when it would have done literally nothing?
The left wishes to create a world where each and every thing you do requires their approval. It is precisely why they've become whores for the globalist super-state. And why they dominate mainstream media.
They love being heard multiples more than they love being free.
Each and every one them deserves to be murdered by a radical Islamic terrorist. But that's beside the point.
>>77011310
>>77011554
I sense a lot of agression with my virgin comment, the same kind of agression that results in mass shootings.
Please seek guidance, all the best
>>76985410
Ban all middle eastern people. There.
>>76985518
>>76984065
Worked well for Paris.
What would work: armed citizen soldiers and/or kill all mudshits.
>>76982765
>Being a muslim should automatically disqualify anyone from breathing
ftfy
THE EMPEROR WARNED YOU
YOU DIDN'T LISTEN
IT IS TOO LATE
THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE
>>76982325
I heard the guy was a straight shooter with a really explosive personality
>>77012204
>triggered liberal begins projecting
If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
>>76999144
No. Revocation of due process.
>>76982765
>are you Muslim?
>Certainly not!
>>77010889
Keep telling yourself that lel. Close to 50% (7000) of the murders in the US are committed by whiteys. Around 70% of all murders are committed with guns, thus meaning close to 5000 people are murdered by crackers with guns. In Australia, 30 people on average are killed by guns per year. Take out bikie gangs and lebs and that number would quite literally be less than 5.
BUT ONLY DA OUTLAWZ WILL HAVE DA GUNZ IF YOU SENSIBLY REGULATE THEIR SALE AND STORAGE!!! THE NRA TOLD ME SO!!
http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/575dbe867b5ab-walkintoagaybaralohaackbar.php
>>77010026
Christians are white, dummy.
>>77012935
>Keep telling yourself that lel. Close to 50% (7000) of the murders in the US are committed by whiteys.
underrepresented then, because whites make up about 70% of the population.
other 50% are blacks
>"Around 70% of all murders are committed with guns,"
60%, and 80% of those are with ILLEGAL guns.
>" thus meaning close to 5000 people are murdered by crackers with guns"
false, check your stats and math.
also dont lump in mexicans with whites.
>" In Australia, 30 people on average are killed by guns per year. Take out bikie gangs and lebs and that number would quite literally be less than 5. "
Aussie pop: 23.13 million
USA Population: 320 million
You also forget:
500,000 cases of self defense with a gun each year at a conservative figure.
that means guns save over 50 times more people than they kill.
And our overall crime has been reduced by half.
