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How is porn economically sustainable?
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Free porn is readily accessible everywhere, in huge quantities. You can find most fetishes for free. Most of the ads on porn sites are ads for other porn sites. Or penis enlargement pills.
My question is how is this model economically feasible? Either many people subscribe to pay sites, even though they can get the same thing for free or many people pay for penis enlargement tools. Both possibilities seem unreasonable.
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People get addicted, that's when they start buying the premium packages from the producers and companies
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>>76886215
People do both the things you call "unreasonable" and they do it very often
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The alternative is that porn is not economically sustainable, and is actually being subsidized by external factors. Do you think this is the case? Is pornography purposely free, even though it leads to money loss, in order for it to be accessible to more people? To undermine the morals of society?
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>>76886413
Are there any available statistics for the number of people buying penis enlargement pills? It is not just unreasonable, it is dangerous.
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>>76886215
Currently people are retarded and will still subscribe to porn sites, join those fake dating sites and buy peni pills. In the near future some cheap porn sites might sell their sites "security" to hackers who will use those sites to access more people's personal info while large sites like pornhub will just data mine the shit out of users. In the future as porn is less, taboo advertisers will be more normal things like movies and games.
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Why are you asking here? Do you think anyone here in /pol/ works in the pornography industry?

You could have gone to some forum with people that work in the industry and asked them on how do they make money.
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>>76886215
Pornography is like...cohabitation with a demon.

In exchange for pleasure, you lose some of your willpower, your control. Little things about you change, but you keep getting pleasure.

Premium porn sites are like...for people who can't enjoy regular sex anymore. People who are addicted to HD porn. Or Full Scenes. Or specialized fetishes. Porn is like feeding a hunger you can't satiate. There is never enough content you want. You want increasingly erotic things because your mind is always focused on sex all the time.

If drug dealers give out shitty little hits of free drugs, how do people go broke and insane buying drugs? Surely those little free hits...there is plenty to go around...
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>>76887824
Just go to your local synagogue.
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boomers
wait for them to die out so we can enter the jew free amateur porn golden age
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>>76886687
They wouldn't be selling them if it weren't profitable and they've been around for a while now.
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>>76886215
Idiots that are too stupid or lazy to look for free porn on the internet. I'm not a socialist but when it comes to porn, I think everybody should have access to it for free. Kinda like public school education.
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>>76886215
A bunch of retarded middle aged men with disposable income to spend
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It's not.

kill all the kike producers and the Jews already won because Internet "freedom" turns everyone into porn producers and distributors. We already lost.

4chan itself is a MAJOR source of porn and degeneracy and yet people seem to support "internet privacy" and anonymity as if it's gospel

Only a controlled, real-identity internet will EVER fix this degeneracy and you know it. Your precious 4chan pervert hiding hole can't be part of it.
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>>76887877
The problem with that is there really is so much good quality free pornography, to say nothing of piracy. The cohabitation with a demon is a good analogy though.
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>>76887877
Actually, the whole of the Internet, and really technology ownership in general is like cohabitation with a demon. Think about it.

4chan is basically the same way. It's just like porn for conversation and information.

Most modern technologies work like a demonic contract. Even with electricity and mass production technologies, we gave up our physical strength and masculinity intro the industrial machine. With transportation we gave up close communities (not to mention many deaths in accidents).

What you say about porn extends to most modern technology.
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>>76886215
Porn is more of a portfolio for high price escorts, anon.

People in amateur porn aren't aware of this.
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There are people that can afford to pay for it.
Plus not all of it is so easily free, and people don't want to be bothered pirating it from shady sites.

Also a lot of porn is connected to laundering money IIRC.
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You own an smartphone. You're letting the (forbidden fruit) Apple or Jewgle spirit into your head, it becomes a part of you, your possessions possess you. Soon you can't imagine living without them, it's like your computer is already embedded in your body spiritually. They don't even need transhumanism. They don't need to shove a chip in your brain, because the Net is already inside your head.
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>>76888507
this. pay for sex and it is illegal.

pay for a self-starring porn movie that has no chance of making money, and it is legal.

If it wasn't for porn, every escort would have to go to the middle-east for their prince orgies.
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Check things like Pierre Woodman's forum, he has a lot of paying followers

I wonder how much is subsidised, if I had the money and could have access to eastern european pussy I would definitely invest even if I ended in a loss
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>>76886215
people continually underestimate the profitability of internet advertising. two of the biggest companies in the world (google and Facebook) generate almost all of their billions every year from selling advertising.

advertisers on porn sites pay on a CPM model (meaning they pay a certain amount for 1,000 people to "see" their ad). besides ad revenue, many of the large clip sites nowadays are directly sponsored by the studios who make the films, which is why you only see a 8-10 min preview of a 20-40 minute scene.

and you would be surprised how many people actually buy shitty penis pills and subscriptions to "casual dating" sites. the adult industry has enough genuine cashflow to not require "subsidies" from the jews (at least now)
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Fetishization requires specific acts or actors and novelty. Studios can provide content in hd and novelty to whales that will support it.

Money making people don't want to trawl free sites if they want something specific.
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>>76888422
you're saying that technology makes us weak or altered in certain areas...and where we are weak or different, another entity is stronger or has power over us.

If I am not my own master, who is my master? If to experience sexual pleasure I have to go to porn, porn is my master? And who owns porn...Jews? And who owns Jews...demons? Do we sit here and wait for demonic content to manifest in order to fulfill our altered, compromised sexuality?

We pay for electricity to power washing machines and dishwashers and televisions and lightbulbs in order to avoid work. In order that women can avoid the work of maintaining a home...so they get bored and cheat on us and invite jamal over or go get jobs and realize they don't need a single man if they are their own "man".

What is it we are even paying for?
Food we don't grow
Clothes we don't make
Land we don't own
Businesses we don't run
So we can take home a paycheck
so we can pay for our electricity
to mimic the lost wife around the home (porn)
to mimic the friends we don't have (internet)
to mimic the community and nation we don't have (/pol/)

If we didn't have internet or electricity what the fuck would we do??!! I don't know what I would do.
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>>76889399
Welcome to Uncle Ted's wild ride anon.
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>>76889297
I understand why some people would pay for niche fetishes. But why is there so much free "vanilla" porn being produced? Why would you subscribe for vanilla porn?
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>>76889793
it's mostly ad revenue
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>>76886215
go as /ic/ how easily porn commissions come rolling in if you're good enough

monetary value of porn is in it's rarity, which is why all the degenerate far out fetishes along side with highest quality mainstream porn rake in most of the money and the market slowly moves in more and more extreme directions or into higher quality production
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>>76886489
who would have the money to subsidize porn and be willing to do it
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Masturbating to too much porn ruined my erections.
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>>76889793
>Update
i think that's a little bit naive. Why do people like legos so much? Who would pay for little plastic bricks?

Why do people like anime so much, who would pay for dumb shows about fake moon stories?

Why do people like warcraft so much? who pay five thousands dollars for a fake lich king sword

who would pay ten thousand dollars for a real doll

who would pay for meth, if a good beer, while much lesser, felt good too?
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>paid porn sites offer 10 minute previews on free porn sites
>it only takes me a couple minutes
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I think you guys have it wrong. A lot of people are saying that porn is addicting and people lose control of themselves over it. While that may be true, I don't think that's fueling the industry entirely.

Look at other mediums like television and video games. Instead of appealing to the niche consumer and producing highly specialized entertainment that their target demographics will really enjoy, they widen their demographics to include any and everyone on the chance that thousands of casual consumers will buy one or two of their products instead of building a market that one or two dedicated fans will continually subscribe.

Most of the porn producers are just boring middle of the road stuff like lesbianism, vaginal intercourse, blowjobs, and cumshots, because those genres appeal to the most people and lots of people. The further away you branch from those generic genres the smaller the industry gets. It gets to the point where there is no market for specific things like "Asian girl wearing cotton on the side of a 14 story building singing lullabies to their FtM partner standing on the ground while they insert a Mercury thermometer into their brothers penis while a midget clown dances the stanky leg" so people will pay $1000 for a request company to make it because they know they'll never get that good of porn again.

Plus, most porn websites make their money from advertising. Some free websites get millions of unique visitors per day, and if they had just one pop up it could be worth a lot of money. Take Mless for example. Every time you go to their website an advert for LiveJasmin pops up, that in itself is a profitable site because it's hundreds of women on webcams touching themselves and people directly pay them to say their name or do certain acts for their amusement, all the webhost has to do is skim a little bit off the top and they do almost no work at all.

The porn industry is extremely profitable. Lots of free porn doesn't mean no money is made.
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>>76890206
If you even just stop to the point of only doing it once every 1-2 weeks you will fix this problem. Better yet use your imagination, and NEVER edge, get it done in a few minutes. Best change I ever made to my life. Eventually I plan on cutting it out completely though.
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>>76887877
>tfw no succubus gf
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>>76890314
>download 1080p 50 minute gangbang
>cum during the initial interview
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>>76886215
Some interesting conspiracy theories here but its fairly simple.

There is a monopoly: the tube sites and the pay sites are owned by the same people.

They do fine and have basically won at internet commerce.

They killed their competitors, took their content for pennies, crashed the 'going rate' throughout the industry.

If you want to get into the industry, you've got to do a deal with them.

Now they sell advertising and subscriptions depending on what sort of customer you are (and therefore effectively they sell it to you twice).

It only works if you own it all and they mostly do with a couple of exceptions (note who nearly always have their copyrights respected and who ostensibly doesn't).
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Gigantic betas with too much money in India and Saudi Arabia pay for it.
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>>76890537
chuckled
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Idiots just don't realize that you can torrent pretty much any video from any network. That's basically why the industry is still on its feet.
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>>76886215
I don't want to spend time searching for torrents or some SD quality video of my favourite porn. Just pay 100 dollars for 6 months, and jerk off to white women getting blacked by big dark dingus all day long. It comes down to 0.55 bucks per day, so why not?
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>>76890388
What is wrong with edging vs a quickie? I've often edged for a couple hours or played cock hero.
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>>76886215
A few people pay a lot and provide for everyone else basically.

Also it's only profitable for a couple of people really.
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>>76891263
edging fucks your brain's reward system far more and is most likely what conditions you to not be able to cum in real sex. Not to mention the physical desensitization if you grip hard.
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>>76890537
kek
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>>76890630
The genius part of it is how fucking lazy they are.

In every other industry if you approached monopoly status you'd start merging and interfering.

They can't be bothered, they just let everyone get on with it and scoop the profit off the top.

So you have an "ecosystem" of porn so to speak that responds to the market.

Compare that to disastrous state of the normal movie industry. The incompetence and stupidity in Sonyleaks has to be read to be believed. They have less idea how to make films than you do.

Porn is always at the forefront of new business models, I expect the likes of Google to start going more this way themselves in future.
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>>76886315
I've been fapping ever since I could and I haven't stooped low enough to pay for my porn. There's an infinite sea of the free stuff, and someone always streams the new videos mere days after they come out on the shekel sites.
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>>76886215
They sell user data.
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>>76891468
darude sick meme
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>>76888256
>>76888422
See, that's where you and me draw the line. I value freedom and anonymity more than a "degeneracy-free" internet, whatever the fuck that means.
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>>76890388
I hate time.
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>>76886215
It's not. There was an article written up by a porn actress about how porn doesn't make anywhere near as much money as it used to precisely because of all the free shit already on the Internet. Thus a lot of other stars have outright left the business. Only the big names and sites are still around.
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>>76890005
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>>76890005
>>76886489

You're both forgetting one factor:

The fact that it's a semi-glamorous lifestyle that people desperately want to be a part of.

Folks are 100% willing to sleep on couches and live in poverty if they can run a porn business. And there are a lot of porn startups.

Even if the business is unsustainable, as long as there's guys willing to try their hand at starting up a company so they can get a crack at pussy and seemingly 'easy' money, and a bunch of dumb girls willing to choke on dick for peanuts, there will be a never-ending flood of pornography as people cycle in and out of the industry.

Most of the guys who run these businesses also take turns doing cameras or starring, or doing some other kind of production.

Many of them have side jobs or businesses that ACTUALLY keep them fed.

Some of them really do live in vans or the houses they film in.
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>>76886215
You raise a good point. There was a story somewhere about the porn studios realizing how much free distribution there was and getting angry, trying to sue Youtube equivalent sites, and then changing their minds and actually embracing the model.
Like they were getting their money from somewhere else and were happy to distribute for free, because the main thing for them is that the public stay asleep.
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>>76891412

Shit i never knew. How long does recovery take? I take endocrine medication.
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>>76888598
Like something from a Din Delillo novel.
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>>76890388
>and NEVER edge, get it done in a few minutes
I don't know about you, but I'm not some faggot who likes to sit in his own sweat and spray cum all over his body like a hentai. I prefer to get it over with and go to bed. Helps me get out the extra energy and go to sleep.

Half the people who go on about edging probably have a dildo in their ass.
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People are cheap commodities. Something pimps have known for centuries.
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>>76889720
Fuck you for being right about absolutely everything.
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>>76891819
No idea, for me I was able to get hard and have almost hands-free orgasms after taking 2 weeks off. But I'll never know if this is even the case in real sex.

From some people's reports (redditors though so idk) it can take 30-90 days of complete nofap. And I have no clue about your meds
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>>76891735
No wonder the Jews are so butthurt about net neutrality. Pedowood movies? Pirated and streamed. Porn? Pirated and streamed. Jew media telling you what to do? Fact check is just a click away. Secret Jew government secrets? Wikileaks. Goyim criticizing the Holohoax online? Too bad Chaim, you can't do shit if they're anonymous.

It's like a digital shoah. Nothing terrifies them more than the idea of free expression.
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>>76888256
>pervert hiding hole

Hhnnggg
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>>76891854

This.

Lasting more than 5 minutes is a meme.

Frigid and blown out women tricked you guys into thinking that the actual penetrative part of sex needs to last longer than 5-10 minutes at most.
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>>76889399
>If we didn't have internet or electricity what the fuck would we do??!! I don't know what I would do.
Probably kill people. But yeah, society's fucked but technology isn't the culprit. It's society itself that's sick. Everything else is just a means to escape.
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>>76892074
It goes both ways though. Kikes support restricting the net when it suits them ("hate speech" laws) but also support "freedom" when it suits them more (especially when it comes to obscenity and CHILDREN's access).
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>>76886215
>Hurr durr how is bottled water economically sustainable? Free water is readily accessible everywhere, in huge quantities. You can find most water for free.
OP, free porn is for plebs, you dumb nigger. Pay porn is a whole different level of porn, something you'll never get to experience.
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>>76891412
Really bitter about being told to edge by this website desu.
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>>76892074
>OY VEY WHAT A HOLOCAUST FUCKING GOY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
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>>76886215
I work at ATT/Directv and people totally call in to order porn esp in the evening. When you find someone who does order they tend to have like 20+ orders in their history.
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>>76891772
logic of your post
>fact: porn studios wanted to sue streamers
>fact: they changed their minded and embraced the model
>fact: they have to get their money through a different business model
>wtf: they do it to keep people asleep?

this is pol level thinking right here. All is make sense until the conclusion.
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>>76892132
I can last as long as I want, I just don't want to last too long. Fapping after 40 minutes doesn't feel any different than fapping after 10. The only factors that affect it is how long between faps and the quality of the fapping material chosen.

Porn does, however, ruin expectations of sex. It's like watching professional wrestling. Everything's fake, and you'll screw yourself over if you don't realize that.

That's why a lot of the time I'll fap to shit that's straight up animated. Because my brain can tell the difference much easier.
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>>76892180
It's a catch-22. Technology is the symptom and the problem at the same time, back and forth until the happening happens (or doesn't)
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>>76892074
The goyim wants to destroy net neutrality too and for the same profiting reasons. Fucking even alex jones wasn't too nice about DMCAing other people.
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>>76892227
It's a two way street but one that's heavily in our favor. Unlimited freedom trumps Jew-controlled "freedom" any day. Truth always wins in the end.
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>>76887877
Poor analogy, you can sustain a porn addiction easily with the massive amount of free porn, which does not mirror at all getting addicted to drugs.
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>>76891487
I've paid for 1 month to a couple of sites and basically stripped them before.

I'm into fetish stuff though and certain people are very active in seeking out popular porn boards and getting hosted files deleted.

>heike
>lady tasha
>bianca beauchamp
>bondage cafe/jim weathers stuff

And some sites are so niche that literally fucking no one posts their sets.

That said, I've only done it for like 3 sites.
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>>76892071
You mean it takes months to get an erection? Dammit, that explains the lack of testosterone. Should there be any signs like my testes not fully descended? 7 years of this ruined me. I can't even orgasm anymore. The blood flow or nerves trigger from the brain absent.
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>>76892132
>lasting more than 5 minutes is a meme

How sad for you.

Edging is bad, yes, but shit son, lasting more than 5 minutes during actual sex is pretty easy.
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>>76893324
>tfw you have entire websites dedicated to your fetish that update regularly
Ahh, thank you ashemaletube
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>>76887877
The only way to find HD porn or "full scenes" is by paying?

Are you one of those people who think porn begins and ends with Pornhub and other shitty stream sites and has never heard of torrents?
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>>76886215
Pay sites wouldn't still exist if they weren't economically sustainable.
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>>76893422
Not at all. I'm saying for some people it may take months to be able to get a full erection AND be able to come from a vagina. You might have no trouble at all getting one to porn or on your own.
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>>76893485
The worst part about edging is if you outlast the video, and don't have another one to continue, it just kinda sits there, and then when you finally start up again, it's harder to finish.

>>76893693
Fuck torrents, most streaming sites have HD nowadays. He's right about "full scenes" - which are useless anyway. The "free samples" are normally 8 minutes long and include everything important, even the climax.
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I paid for a bunch of subscriptions to sites because I was watching ungodly amounts of porn. I liked the how easy it was to search and find exactly what I wanted with which performers I wanted and be able to stream or download in 1080p. And it eventually got to the point where I felt that I was watching so much and deriving so much pleasure that I had might as well be paying these people for the service they were providing. Like how you might pirate some movie you have a vague interest in watching but will pay to watch soon something that you really want to see by one of your favorite directors. Sometimes when you subscribe to a big site like brazzers they will expect you not to go over what you're signing up for and will automatically subscribe you to a smaller shittier site that keeps charging you monthly if you don't opt out. Also brazzers in particular let me sign up for like $120/yr which I thought was ok and once you are in that porn "network" you can subscribe to other "good" sites in the network with good deals. But after that first year my membership automatically renewed, which I was ok with, until i saw they were charging like $25/mo so I then cancelled that one. Also on these sites they have surprisingly good customer service and cater scenes to the fans and allow you to interact with the performers sometimes if that's your thing. It's like being part of a perverted community.

I don't have many huge expenses so I could afford to go this and not really notice an effect on my bank account. But now that I have all these subscriptions I still go back to the free sites on occasion. I have them just to have them, like a collection or something. Also have a gf now somehow and don't watch as much porn. I suspect I will cancel them all or let them each expire and not renew, except for evil angel.
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>>76892252
You shouldn't listen to any sex advice here.

>>76893422
>Should there be any signs like my testes not fully descended?
If that's the case I think something's wrong with your dick.
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>>76894042
Anon, you're crossing the line as soon as you start treating the industry like it's a person. Don't humanize your porn.
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>>76893897
Fucking streaming noobs with no taste or standards.

As long as it's 720p, at least 2 minutes long, and has a dick in it it's good enough for you.
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>dick in porno

I'm surprised no one has mentioned cam girl services, which are virtually effortless to run and extremely profitable.
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>>76894512
Yes it is, and I don't have to pay a cent or risk getting a virus.
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>>76894543
>no dick in porno
What is even the fucking point then? If I wanted to watch dumb sluts touch themselves on camera I'd go to chat roulette
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>>76892132
>he will be cucked because he can't give his girlfriend multiple vaginal orgasms in one session
wew lad
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It runs at a net loss because it promotes degeneracy.
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>>76894860
You don't get viruses from video files you retard, you get viruses from malicious ads on sites like fucking youporn.

And what porn torrent site ever required a subscription fee? The ones I use are free, well-moderated, and actually have a community (which I don't participate in because holy fuck that's sad).

Anyway, here's a 7 hour cumshot compilation. This should be all the porn you need until you're 40. You're welcome.

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph56161d6355606
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>>76886215
Porn in general will continue to be produced by individuals and smaller groups via commission (i.e paying someone on DeviantArt to draw furry porn), and even without money plenty of people will fuck on camera because it's hot, or draw porn because artists need to practice.

The larger-scale porn industry is probably gonna collapse, though, it's a relic of an era where you couldn't just search for pics or clips of your highly specific fetish. Full-length porn movies are dead, and nobody mourns the loss.
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>>76887877
>If drug dealers give out shitty little hits of free drugs
confirmed for not ever interacting with a drug dealer. "The first hit is always free" is a movie trope. Street level dealers are poor and even small amounts of drugs are expensive. You always have to pay for drugs unless you're good friends with the guy.
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>>76893817
>>76894062
Well looking at porn or hentai doesn't get me aroused anymore. I just edge or stroke rather get an erection. Ugh, what did i do? I can see my testes, but one is smaller and not hanging further unlike the left. Dopamine? Medicine? The tip if my penis looks bigger than the shaft depending on thickness and whenever I poop afterwards, my balls have this reddish color.
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>>76886215
Free to the 20% of people smart enough to find it. The bottom 80% of humanity is plenty dumb enough to pay for it. Also there are plenty of straight up addicts who will never get enough.
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>>76886215

Porn is degenerate. Porn is slut culture in it's final stage. It allows female sluts and whores to ruin the social fabric of society so they can be fucking cunts on camera and even get paid for it, although they don't get paid for the truly "homemade" stuff.

It's economically viable because a large amount of people still subscribe with money to it somehow. Look at pornhub. Also, even if you don't subscribe, those sites are still loaded with ads, and they make money from those.
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>>76895419
See a doctor.
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>>76888256
>yfw Zuckerburg figures out how to get the anti-degeneracy squad and the SJW's to work together and make everyone do everything online through their Facebook account

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>>76895419
It's worse since you're circumcised.

Honestly for a case as extreme as yours I'd say you should try a long nofap/noporn period of at least a month.

I was never this far gone
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>>76895334
>You don't get viruses from video files you retard
You get it from the other shit that assholes put in there with the video files
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>>76895044
Women are garbage anyway, I doubt he'll bother with a roastie
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>>76886215
Who is this
semen demon
sperm worm
boner toner
spunk monk
cock dock
erection ejection
dick tick
cum plum
seed steed
prick chick
cock stock
seminal sentinel
phallus chalice
anus ignoramus
smegma enigma
beef curtain hurtin
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willy wrap
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jism prison
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dongle mongle
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column culminator
testicle tamer
sperm specialist
glans gladiator
frenulum fractionizer
foreskin forenicator
Penile Private
Smut Sergeant
Cock Captain
Orifice Officer
Rear Admiral
Cummander
Lewd Lieutenant
Meat Major
Cunt Colonel
weiner witch
phallus phalanx
cock commandant
dong deity
semen demon
seminal fluid druid
jizz wiz
benis burglar
wang waxer
schlong sentinel
dick dastard
jizz jezebel
tally wacker packer
schlong sorcerrer
weenie genie
chode road
male repoductive organ gorgan
shaft shaft
ding dong dungeon
scrotum totem
ballsack knapsack
testicle vestibule
ball butter nutter
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>>76895649
Guess i shouldn't give in.
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>>76895390
>The larger-scale porn industry is probably gonna collapse, though, it's a relic of an era where you couldn't just search for pics or clips of your highly specific fetish. Full-length porn movies are dead, and nobody mourns the loss
But won't someone think of the Jews?
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>>76887877
God damnit, when the fuck am I going to meet a drug dealer who gives out free drugs? I've heard this since gradeschool from D.A.R.E. but all my years in drug-infested shithole town I've never come across one of these "free hits". WHEN WILL IT BE MINE TURN?!?!!
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>>76895631
This is what I fear.

That the Jews will provide their own controlled method of "anti-degeneracy" that comes with Zuckerberg bullshit.

I think the only thing to do is deal with the inevitable end of free internet and figure out how to turn it against the Left (such as tracking and reporting sluts)
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>>76895705
If you can't tell the difference between "pornvid2160p.mp4 (15 gb)" and "pornvid2160p.mp4.exe (50 kb)" then I can't help you.

I recommend Apple products.
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>>76886215
I Don't Understand How Advertising Revenue Works: The Thread
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>>76886215
Ad revenue
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>>76895419
>but one is smaller
That's normal.
>and not hanging further unlike the left
That isn't I think.

I think you're just fucked. See a doctor.
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>>76886215
You now realize the kikes sustain the porn industry by pumping huge amount of money into it with no intention to make it back financially, they just want to destroy society.
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>>76895490
Also this. Most normies probably don't even think to search for free porn. Some old ones probably still pay for magazines.
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>>76895914
>what is adblock
I love seeing all the porno sites whine at me to turn it off. They can go fuck themselves. Especially since most of them are (((owned))) by interracial cuckold-pushing scum.
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>>76895649
Don't listen to this idiot. nofap is a meme. You have something wrong with your dick, see a doctor. Obviously don't masturbate until you're fine again.
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>>76886215
i also wonder this.
never payed a dime for porn.
never been to a strip club either.
i hate the idea of giving a woman money for tits or pussy.
seriously the most beta thing i can think of.
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>>76896227
It's not a meme, it's just that it isn't the solution to every possible dick problem you could have. but it IS important if you're completely impotent and it seems that porn addiction is the cause. Even just LessFap is enough for a lot of people though
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>>76895877

>That the Jews will provide their own controlled method of "anti-degeneracy" that comes with Zuckerberg bullshit.

That's 4chan though. This site is full of fucking autistic retards that proudly proclaim how "CONSERVATIVE" they are, and then support things which go against social conservatism. This site and it's users support degeneracy.
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I have a very specific fetish, and related videos cost a lot.
I watch the leaked ones because I'm a poorfag, but I can imagine a rich person with the same fetish buying them.
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>>76886215
Didn't the top 5 porn websites basically consolidate anyways? The internet should have bankrupted porn the same way it should have bankrupted hollywood, but it didn't.
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>>76896527
It depends. Many of us just want the right to be degenerate in our own privacy, and not parade it around on the streets like the Jews are pushing.

But we're slowly approaching a society that has no concept or privacy.
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>>76896527
that's true. But I'm talking about something mainstream and MANDATORY for all internet users, aka making facebook be the only legal use of the internet at all (and allowing all sorts of degeneracy publicly anyway unless it criticizes women or jews)
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>>76892252
Edgings fine
Don't listen to these newbs
What do you think tantric sex is
>protip
>it's edging
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>>76896983

Specifically parading it around on the streets is only one factor.

The more people contribute to slut culture, the more it becomes the norm, and the more it destroys society. Mouthbreathing retards on here think that means I am "MGTOW", but they must be retarded, because by opposing slut culture, I am trying to salvage what is left of decent western civilization.

The Internet made slut culture normal and common. It's not just the streets. The absolute overabundance of porn also made slut culture normal. And no, 4chan is a site where it's boards and users broadcast degeneracy to the entire world 24/7.
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>>76897400
I think they're talking just about masturbating.
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>>76895811
They'll be fine, who says they can't find another business? Maybe they'll find some way to further monetize the new model of internet porn.

>>76895877
An internet where everyone is bound to real names and it's difficult to anonymize yourself, regardless of how it's achieved, would essentially be an all-against-all doxxing war, with more weight falling on different groups depending on the social mood. We all have embarrassing posts we made in middle school, imagine a forum circlejerk in every corner of the internet, only with everyone's real identity and history covering the entire web. 4chan would be done for; imagine an employer looking up all the times you called someone a nigger or talked about how hot a loli doujin was.
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>>76897376

>and allowing all sorts of degeneracy publicly anyway unless it criticizes women or jews

What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>76897523
it's true.

there's NOTHING "private" about the internet AT ALL.

which is why idiots obsessed with internet "privacy" are just that , degenerates and idiots, because anything that anyone in the world can fucking see is PUBLIC.

Really, it would be a good thing if the freely accessible net were subject to every law that applied to activities on public streets.
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Who /nofap/ here
Going on 8 days now

What's your experience with nofap /pol/?
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>>76897645
I'm talking about all the "anti hate speech" legislation that's currently sweeping europe. Right now you can be arrested for posting holocaust denial on your facebook in certain countries, yet they'll turn a blind eye to whores posting nude selfies
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>>76886215
the ads you see on the free sites have all been paid for by someone

also the cost is low (internet distribution compared to old magazines/print/video distribution)
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>>76897612
Honestly, what you say could be a good thing if done properly. Look at china.

Sad to say the only real way to prevent "Degeneracy" is to police the net as if it was public. Because it IS public unless it's a closed network like the government uses.
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>>76886215
Among non-NEETs, a surprisingly large number of people still purchase premium porn subscriptions.

If you have plenty of disposable income and limited free time on your hands, having easy access to a steady supply of super-HD porn that caters to your fetish of choice is worth a few dollars a month.
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>>76888256
>"internet privacy" and anonymity
surely these are necessary for truly free, unsanctioned speech ?
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>>76888256
there's a difference between promoting a degeneracy-free society and mandating it. I believe strongly in individual liberty. I think it's right for morality and responsibility to be promoted in our society, but not necessarily mandated.
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>>76898216
free speech is a meme. We don't have it now anyway. And privacy? the NSA and Google logs us right this second, yet nobody here is actually boycotting the Internet because entertainment matters more to them than actual freedom.
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Utah single handedly keeps the porn industry afloat

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11821265
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>>76893324
>tfw too paranoid to use a credit card to buy porn
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imagination
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>>76897523
Nah, it has nothing to do with the internet. It's women. Women made slut culture acceptable. Even without the internet it'd be the same, just done through different methods.
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As someone who has worked closely with small and medium producers in the industry. Most of the money comes from niche fetishes outside of the normal boy girl porn. And while certain models everyone knows, they will have clips all over free websites. Most of the time that is to promote their paid that that when people fall for this fantasy they will throw money at like no tomorrow. I personally know models who take paided requests and having sorted through them. Man oh man some people are willing to pay to be able to watch fantasies they have never gotten to personally get out through porn. Just from my experience. So as long as people have fantasies they can't experience and money to spend yes it will keep going. And as long as people fall for the fantasy of how they can never fuck someone like that. They will pay to see them over and over.
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>>76890005
Oh boy I wonder
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>>76897718
>>76897999
Anon, you're crazy. There's nothing good about a government controlled internet. You'd just be handing them more power to censor. Freedom of expression > "degeneracy-free" society. We just need to start shaming people for doing stupid shit in public again.
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buying pron is so lame, why not get prostitutes instead ???
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>>76898305
>We don't have it now anyway
But we can, and that's what we should work towards.
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>>76898692
you don't get it thought. The Internet has made it so there's no ability to publicly shame anyone anymore. Internet life is basically public life minus the shame. Don't underestimate what damage this has done to society.
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>>76898696
because the only legal ones here will take half your shit
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>>76897743

been on nofap for a week, got the most recent blowjob in a long drought, feels good man
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>>76898843
The damage was already there, anon. You were less free before the internet. You couldn't even have the conversations we're having right now. All media was controlled, there was no outlet for free expression of unpopular ideas. You couldn't discuss it in public, you couldn't write it in a journal or newspaper. For the first time in human history, everyone, no matter how stupid or crazy, has a voice. And they're trying to take that away from us. And you'd help them to further your own vague ideals.
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>>76899034
but everyone having a voice is ultimately bad for society. Think about all those nogs on twitter and instagram.

Democracy is bad and leads to tyranny of the masses, and for the same reason free internet is bad.
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>>76893422
I'm in my thrird year of no fap-porn now. I'm almost full recovered, but it takes time to rewire your brain.
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>>76899117
>but everyone having a voice is ultimately bad for society
Says who?

>democracy is bad
We're not even living in a democracy. We're living in an oligarchy. There is no tyranny of the masses, just tyranny of a select few who've manipulated the masses into helping them.

Having any centralized leadership always results in tyranny eventually. And you whinge and whine about whores on twitter, but don't you realize that social media is on the decline? Whereas places like 4chan will always exist because sometimes people just want to say what's on their mind without getting tarred and feathered for it.

Freedom, true freedom, will always have an audience. You're being shortsighted.
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>>76899193
Do/did you have sex during these years or are you completely celibate?
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>>76898492

Fellow leaf, you are naive if you think that women can be even 0.1 percent as slutty as they are now without the Internet.

And yes, it's a problem. Talking about this even on 4chan will make people hate you here, but all the women that are sluts and whores eliminate themselves as viable partners and thus cut DEEPLY into the birth and marriage rates for western civilization.
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>>76899376

>And you whinge and whine about whores on twitter, but don't you realize that social media is on the decline

Sluts and whores don't need social media to exist. It helps them a great amount, but still. That's like saying water needs a sink to exist.
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>>76899457
Don't porn addict men also eliminate themselves as viable partners?

Of course you're right that the latter is probably a result of the former so I see no reason to mostly blame current men for this state of affairs like many do.
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>>76898492
It's human nature and technology.

Human behavior in general is affected by incentives. Promiscuity, for instance, was kept low by social stigma, STD's, unwanted pregnancies, messy interpersonal situations, etc.

Enter the pill, a pharmaceutical that greatly reduced the risk of unwanted pregnancies. With the removal of one great deterrent, and human sexual drives remaining the same as they always were, there was going to be more fornication, just like reducing the price of something means more is sold, depending on elasticity. And with regards to pregnancy, sex was elastic indeed; no baby, no risk of a shotgun wedding or a bastard, even with social shame in full force there's much less chance of being found out.

Speaking of shame, people weren't just against fornication because their church said it was bad, they were afraid of tangible consequences. Get rid of the biggest one, bastard children, and they're gonna ease up.

If something fun is restricted because of its consequences, lessened consequences mean fewer restrictions.
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>>76899457
They're still sluts. The difference is without the internet they can't act on it as easily. They're still sick in the head because of feminism and the decline of the family and lack of male role models and blah blah blah.

But that's not what we're talking about here. The internet is just a tool.
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>>76899457
Sluts and whores are not a majority in any society, though. Also, a lot of women get at least one kid, and either never marry or stay single.
Marriage is a terrible farce these days any way.
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>>76899587
It's always the women. Bad men have bad mothers, and these days it's difficult to find good mothers and strong fathers.
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>>76899394

Celibate. I think it is an important part of the process. Recently i've started to pop up boners very easely when i'm in the presence of a slightly attractve woman, it is like i'm starting to have 14 again. I don't want to spect the same lust i had when i was a teen, but damn, it is so rewarding and exiting.
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>>76899830
Sexual promiscuity compounded with a culture that makes women work instead of marry young and have children is what's killing birthrates. It's also ruining the job market because you have twice the competition. Throw in immigration and affirmative action and you have a nightmare waiting to happen.
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>>76888256
Fbi plz
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>>76886215
With the advent of the Internet and digital storage, the old model is doomed.

There will still be porn made, but the business models have to change.

A huge amount is now truly amateur and that's likely to only increase.

And the stuff for pay? Instead of trying to sell DVDs the smart ones are already getting it pre-paid. Some horny fuckers go ahead and pay the girls for the performance up front, and if they can squeeze a few more dollars out of later downloads that's great, but they're already paid the minimum they feel they have to get before they've even started shooting, by people who want to see that specific sort of scene with that specific actress.

Pic related for sure.
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>>76899955
Society needs to cool down the constant need to see statistics showing human populations growing exponentially. Focus on technology to solve the problem instead or other means, why must it be births?
Men and women pick jobs that don't really compete with each other. I know men that apply for jobs dominated by women and get a head of any woman because they're men. It's vice versa in male dominated jobs. My own field is in the gray area, though.
The nightmare is on, immigration and affirmative action is high priority in Sweden, and I guess in Leafland too.
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>>76899648
Tech is a problem but in the end it always comes back to values, which our society has lost.

Seriously, try and name some modern western values. Go ahead, I dare you.
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>>76890005
Who could it be?
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>>76899850
i can't even go two days and if i do skip one i fap 3 times the next. There are times where I don't even do it out of pleasure just muscle memory and it is difficult to get the process going and other times I have a boner all day which won't go away if I don't do it. I don't know how anyone can do no faps.
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Satan will cast them aside after they become of no further use.
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>>76899850
>>76900471
Your bodies might not be 14-year-old, but your minds seem to be. Go out and get laid, you're wasting your time on this earth with this shit.
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>>76900471
Jesus, anon. Sometimes I leave the house for a week and don't fap. Hell, during exams, I had to go to bed early so I didn't get one out until they were done. It was a great celebration, needless to say

Also I can only ever fap once a day. Maybe 2 if I'm pulling an all nighter and catch something good in my browsing
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>>76900471
Once I realized it was degenerate I stopped fapping every day without much problem. Now I do it once every 1-2 weeks and it actually feels good again. I no longer even have to death-grip or edge for hours. I do know this isn't enough and I need to quit completely though.
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>>76895631
Soon. Not Facebook, but a world citizen's ID number which is tied to your citizen score. Relax. It'll be fine. You'll get used to it faster than you think is possible. Relax.
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>>76900741
>I no longer even have to death-grip or edge for hours
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people, I fap every night and never have had that issue
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcntRxtfRZM
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>>76900790
As soon as they try and stick a chip in me I'm reaching for the guns. A world that won't leave me the fuck alone is one I want no part in.
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>>76900296
dude nigger curry-nigger poo in loo and chink populations are bigger than white
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>>76898305
>free speech is a meme. We don't have it now anyway.
well that's kind of my argument, that we need to protect free speech, and we can do so using technology
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>>76900877
This. There are only about a billion whites on earth. We're the real fucking minority here. In the next world war I hope 70% of earth's population is wiped out. No more Africa, no more Middle East. Just whites and Asians except half of China's population.
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>>76900802
I know it sounds corny but I have cycles throughout the year sometimes I have raging bursts of arousal all the time which make it easy other times I have to force it.
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>>76900864
relax leaf friendo, dat was a joo, keep in mind that there are a bit more jooz in the usa than in israel
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You're being way too autistic about this.

>pic related is proof Jews run it, why other reason would a porn scene feature hitler?
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>>76886215
>Cam shows
>Advertisements (most normies don't use adblock)
>Telephone Sex Lines
>Escorts
>SFW Modeling services
>Subscription services
>All those "penis pills"
There's a lot of revenue streams.
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>>76900471
>>76900741

It was dificult for the first weeks. Everything i could think about was fapping, porn, hentai. Next 6 monts it was easier, starting to focus on other things but my libido was dead. Since then, i've been slowly recovering my libido.
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>>76899830

>Sluts and whores are not a majority in any society, though

Yes they are. This sounds like damage control.

>>76899587

The porn addict men feed off the sluts and whores, and vice versa. Men have always been - and still currently are - the ones that are pressured to "man up" and serve women. So, I go easy on them because of that.

>>76899707

I still think that we have to curtail it, you can't allow such a massive medium to destroy civilization like this.
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>>76886215
porn is legal to torrent too, because a court ruled copyright can't be enforced for porn
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>>76901086
I forgot stripping shows too. Most porn stars get around a lot.
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>>76900877
What are you implying? Most of these people will never move from their countries of origin, and even if they do it's not like en-masse to totally replace any other population.
Even in Sweden mixed race kids are a low minority. In the UK it's about 2 %. Race mixing isn't a thing to most people.
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>>76898843
>The Internet has made it so there's no ability to publicly shame anyone anymore
tell that to the bloke who fingered that chick behind the dumpster
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>>76901156
Respect man I have no idea how anyone could endure that suffering for such a long time when your brain becomes hardwired to nonstop fap. It's so fucking hard when your computer is 3 feet from your bed.
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>>76901036
>keep in mind that there are a bit more jooz in the usa than in israel
And that's where most of the camps will be built
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>>76900986
yeah we could keep like 2000 negroes where they belong, the zoos, but the real problem is the joo problem, they have all tv and even lots of conspiracy theorist shills
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>>76901081
>filename
My thoughts exactly
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>>76886215
Stuff like Clips4sale is the future of porn. Xev Bellringer and Lady Fyre make my dick throb. It's difficult to find free videos of them, because they get taken down almost immediately.

Also, fetish stuff is very difficult to find. It sucks when you have a bit of a scat fetish.
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Really makes you think huh??
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>>76901086
>All those "penis pills"
If any of those fucking worked you wouldn't need any ads because every man in the world would be spreading the word like it was the fucking Bible
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>>76901163
You should specify what you mean with sluts and whores.
I can define sluts as just regular women. As a regular woman, you want to naturally please a man that makes you feel good. The same can be said for men, but is probably overall truer for women. So what you may call sluts are really pleasers, or normal behaviour.
Whores actively sell their services for cash, this is stigmatised and will never be a norm for most women nor men.
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>>76886215

non-basement dwellers aren't going to spend hours searching for shit, usually at lower quality

it's like asking why people get cable instead of using an antenna when there is so much free television
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>>76895763
Search helga model
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>>76901163
Civilization is already being destroyed, friendo. But you'll do a lot better good saving it if you tackle the disease and not the symptoms. Women need to re-learn how to be women again, and feminism needs to be crushed like the bug it is.
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>>76901307
I'm free of nonstop fapping now and can actually only do it weekly without much trouble , after I pulled off the first 3-week of nofap.

Of course now I have the problem of spending most of my free time shitposting on 4chan instead.
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>>76901394
>It sucks when you have a bit of a scat fetish
Oh boy, you really shouldn't have said that
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>>76901667
why?
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>>76901481
The difference is that sluts will eat the whole damn buffet then demand someone else pay for it when they're done. Whores are at least up-front and provide a service for cash.

All women are whores - you're paying for their holes one way or another
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>>76901468
Doesn't stop depressed 40 year olds from buying them.
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>>76901705
Because it's shit

>>76901619
>Of course now I have the problem of spending most of my free time shitposting on 4chan instead
Now THAT's an addiction
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>>76901773
So stay away from the sluts? There are gray areas.
Sure all women are whores, you're a man and expected to pick up the bill. Even in a marriage you're expected to be the care taker.
What is your problem with traditional values?
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>>76901481

A slut is a promiscuous female. Very simple. Slut culture has an entire backing for that type of lifestyle, and it's the norm now. Whores are very accepted. You can't criticize them on the Internet. I can think of two different occasions where a woman said she was a "sex worker", nobody ostracized her at all here. You're just making excuses for female degeneracy.

>>76901556

This reminds me of all those people who told me that if I want to stop something, all I have to do is speak out against it. It doesn't work like that, man. The disease is something which has conquered billions of people.
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>>76901968

I don't care what people expect of me. I'm not going to be a "real man" while women get to be sluts and whores without consequences. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
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>>76901307
Pretty horrible first weeks, when you haven't earned anything, but easier when you realize you are making some progress and you don't want to fuck it up your effort. Ehen i decided to do it i blocked all porn-erotic content of all of my devices, i deleted all my porn bookmarks with mi veloved high quality hentai dojins and big asses por, i deleted my 3g trap folder i held dear and i lost all the rare qt's i've saved in the four years i spent on b. Hard man, some times i miss chobo trap, a super rare qt.
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>>76891535

This. This more than anything.

Drop some cookies, check your http headers, scoop up a trove of demographic data. T

hat info may not lead to other porn sites. It will, however, segment you into an audience that exhibits specific characteristics: Income, geo-location, age, and don't even get started on deterministic and probabilistic cross-device targeting.

You don't have to pay. Just by showing up you're giving away a lot of info that's extremely valuable.

The porn sites may not do this themselves. There are a lot of other companies that specialize in on-line data collection. Drop some pixels, add a JS code library or 2. The ecosystem for digital marketing is huge. You don't even know, pol.
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>>76901984
i remember that in IG there is a 13 year old slut with twerk videos and shit and men were commenting that a 13 year old is not a slut for wanting to fuck
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>>76901968
>What is your problem with traditional values?
Because it's a two-way street. I won't be a traditional male if she won't be a traditional female. I won't let them have their cock and eat it too, Swede

The modern woman is garbage and doesn't deserve any sort of pampering or special treatment from men. She's a hole good for dick and nothing else, and she was the one who degraded herself to that level.
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>>76901984
>I can think of two different occasions where a woman said she was a "sex worker", nobody ostracized her at all here. You're just making excuses for female degeneracy
I've never seen that. If I were there, I'd tell her to call herself a whore and stop using flowery language to disguise the fact she takes dick for a living because she couldn't do anything else or catch a decent man.
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>>76901984
>This reminds me of all those people who told me that if I want to stop something, all I have to do is speak out against it
That's assuming others follow you. Me, I think it's waiting for the right moment, when the cracks in the dam are large enough for you and a few others to slip through. Then the path to destruction of the whole edifice is swift.
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>>76902420
why are wimminz so prone to be infected by brain jewrus ??
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>>76902649
Because they're stupid and think emotionally, not logically. In fact, they're not even really that stupid, they just think irrationally and with emotion above all else. All the emotional manipulation that men can ignore affects women.

This, of course, isn't really a problem... unless you give these women a say in politics. Then, well, it's easy to see where things start to fall apart.
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>>76901394
Make an account on pornbay.org

People upload a bunch of their clips right after they come out
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>>76902607

I never assumed other people followed me. I don't want that. My aim is to get the message out there, and cooperate with others so we can do the hard hitting. Propping myself up as some sort of leader is egotistical, and would leave me open to character assassination and perhaps real assassination. But most people do not think like me.
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>>76901794
I bet they work a little bit, if you also do exercises

I bet you can also take certain combinations of foods/ vitamins that would trigger your human growth hormone formation to rise, and while you do that, you increase the bloodflow to your dick? do the math
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>>76886215
please anyone who lives any germany, can you do this simple task and report what you find
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>>76902065
Sounds like teen angst to me. Don't enjoy remaining a virgin, you got one shot at living your life and you seem to rather sit around feeling sorry for yourself.
I recommend getting an outdoor hobby to meet a nice girl. Also, get fit, you fuck.
>>76902420
You're just repeating a meme of this site, I hope you know that.
Girls and women are generally really naive but good creatures, wishing no harm on others and they really wish to please the cock of the man they fall for. I say man, not men, because most women do have traditional values but are shit at talking to men. This is where a man must be a man and talk to women. I think this is pretty much the natural order of things, most of the time.
A man may seize most of his desires with initiative, most women are slaves to waiting around for their fantasies to come true.
Don't be the woman you give the impression you are right now.
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>>76902975
No, anon, not like that. I mean, enough people with similar ideas get together, and spread those ideas to others. /pol/ has been practicing this for years, and now, finally we're beginning to gain hold. People are beginning to wake up and start to criticize the sacred cows of feminism, cultural and race relativism, and materialism. They're beginning to think in terms of quality of life as opposed to gross domestic product. They're beginning to realize that all of this "diversity" isn't good for their countries.

We just supply the information to those who ask for it. None of us are really charismatic or well-connected enough to actually get a movement going on our own. But we're pretty good at integrating into and influencing something once it already comes into existence.
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>>76903175

I'm not a virgin. Calm it with your bitterness. I also am fit. I just don't listen to people like you when you tell me to serve a woman in a traditional way, when they do nothing to deserve it in the first place. Go watch your women get get raped by sandniggers, you bitter fuck. Women only get a strong, good and traditional man when they deserve one, retard.
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Based on your argument it's not.
However, the porn industry is constantly evolving. They come up with new ideas and create new trends.
One thing that's paid for and highly sought after are American style porn games. They're a niche fetish that is not easily sated. One of the most successful sites is MNF that only in the past couple years has made people pay and are working on an MMO style adult game.
Beyond this is the world of VR. Not many producers are filming in VR so the market for it is very niche but has a lot of money in it. Many people are clamoring for VR compatible porn.
>Many are even building human input devices to accompany their porn

Due to the constant evolution of the porn industry it continues to be a very lucrative field of business. So long as they keep evolving they'll be able to make money.

Just like any other business.
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>>76903175
>You're just repeating a meme of this site, I hope you know that
And your flag is making it really difficult to take you seriously. Women these days are damaged goods. Neurotic things that don't know what the fuck their doing, and fill their emptiness with cock and alcohol.

Women these days are trash. Garbage. Soiled. Doesn't matter what they were in the past, or what you remember your mother or grandmother being like. It's not like that anymore. Feminism killed the traditional woman.
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>>76903254

That would be true if /pol/ didn't shill for modern women and slut culture 24/7, leaf.
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>>76903366
Call me when they get a working sexbot that also cooks and cleans
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>>76903464
I don't know what thread you browse, but I see more and more misogyny and women-shaming threads here every day.
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>>76903325
>Calm it with your bitterness. I also am fit.
These are just things you say, but the things you write give the impression you are the opposite. Also the mentioning of bitterness, this is projection, from you.

Women deserve your serving because they may carry your offspring, alternatively serve your cock. That's about it. You expect too much of your surroundings, seemingly doing nothing to earn anything by yourself. Do you feel entitled, are you becoming a leaf school shooter because women didn't want you?
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>>76898412

Buy a gift card at a bank.
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>>76886489
all you need is a handful of paying subscribers

like with telemarketing, all you need is like a 10% success rate or something
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>>76903666
>Women deserve your serving because they may carry your offspring
I wouldn't trust a bitch these days to carry groceries, let alone a baby.
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>>76903454
Ok let's go through this.
>And your flag is making it really difficult to take you seriously
Yes, because Swede cucks actually hang out at /pol/. It's not like this site is a major deterrent for those kinds of people. I hang here to laugh with you at the cucks in my country.
Also, I'd like to point out your government right now is Swedish-tier.

Sounds like you got troubles talking to women so you make shit up from trash you see on the internet, a minority. Going out and being social with women usually solves this delusion.
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>>76903666
> t. cuckenstein afraid of sunset
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>>76903666

But it's true though. You use the classical "projection" argument, yet you're just making assumptions, and you started with the projecting first, all because I don't serve women the way you want.

Women do not deserve my serving and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. I've heard it all before, Swedecuck. And once again, I'm not a virgin, so calm your darn bitterness. You can always go and watch sandniggers rape women from your window when you feel as angsty as you are now.
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>>76904019
Then you either turn homo or remain unhappy for the rest of your life, leaf bro. Women and men complete each other.
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>>76903640

If only I could show you what I've seen. Some Swedish loser is doing it as we speak. Probably a femanon.
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>>76904096
Yeah, I know so many Swedish women who refuse to go out alone after dark these days.
>>76904162
I think you're the one assuming I'm bitter when I think I was clearly trying to urge you to do something constructive, i.e go out. Hence the projection argument from me.

>so calm your darn bitterness.
>You can always go and watch sandniggers rape women from your window when you feel as angsty as you are now.
Oh wew, so much reflecting and projection. I get the impression you're more upset about sandniggers raping Swedish women. I'm not, I know these rapes are mostly self deserved, because the women are often trashy, naive sluts I'll never find interesting anyway. :)
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>>76897743
Why bother? If I want to fap I'm going to fap.
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>>76904178
>or remain unhappy for the rest of your life
I doubt that. I think I'll just hang around and wait until they stop being shit. If that means I die alone, then so be it.
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>>76904726
Actually, I'll humor you for a moment. Say I wanted to go out and socialize with women? Where should I go? Clubs and bars are obviously off the table because all you'll find there is trash. Where would a man find the decent women you've claimed exist?
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>>76904836
What you wrote made no sense at all.
You doubt you'll be unhappy the rest of your life, but you are willing to wait until women stop being women, even till your death.
This is the definition of spending your life unhappy. You just defined it all.
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>>76903541
I remember reading someone speculate that VR is a closer bet, because it's enormously easier to make a satisfactory digital model of a woman than a satisfactory sexbot. A fully realistic model is easier to make than the manufacturing nightmare that is a sexbot past the uncanny valley, and making an animu sexbot is outright impossible. Wait for VR to come down and get an automated vagina/anus/mouth simulator (on a sidenote, I think simulated handjobs and fellatio will be disproportionately common with VR, because you can make it feel convincing with cheaper tools).
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>>76904726

>projection

That word, again. Can you find some other word to say? You are the one that started doing it first, so the onus is on you, bitter salty Swedecuck.

>I know these rapes are mostly self deserved, because the women are often trashy, naive sluts I'll never find interesting anyway. :)

Finally, something we can agree on. But you seem incapable of grasping the concept that women only get decent men if they deserve decent men. Why do you not get that? You insist on western civilization still being this upstanding, traditional, rational place and it isn't, Swedecuck. I've seen far too much and I've heard all the arguments, this is nothing new to me.
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>>76904973
I'd recommend you pursue an outdoor hobby. You'll find women there. A woman having a proper hobby is a good sign she's waifu material.
Also, a club or bar isn't a bad place either. Knowing a slut from a, less slutty women isn't clear cut. You can't know the difference until you've known the difference. Go out and experience shit, man. Take the good with the bad, so you can separate them in the future. Experience is key.
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>>76905255
>Also, a club or bar isn't a bad place either
Like I've said, they're all trash. If I end up with something from there, I'll be paranoid of what she's doing when she's "out with the girls"

Outdoor hobbies aren't a bad idea. Means she'll take care of herself and won't turn into a fat pig in her 30s

Obviously someone with a very small social media presence. Don't need any attention whores.
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>>76905007
>but you are willing to wait until women stop being women
If this is how women are nowadays, I want nothing to do with them. Man is capable of being happy in solitude. I wouldn't bother with a woman who holds remotely feminist or liberal ideas.
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