What went wrong?
>>76822127
C O M M U N I S M
>>76822127(You)
>>76822127
The Iron Curtain fell and thus Yugoslavia became one of the many exporters to the Soviet Bloc, instead of being the only one.
Westerners stopped being afraid of the big USSR and stopped financing Yugoslavia by cheap credit.
Everything that happened after was a consequence of one of these two.
He died.
>>76822261
FPBP.
Serbs thought it means Greater Serbia
>>76822127
Slobodan
>>76822127
envious american jews
Beside the one party shit, I find many sim. to this shitrock in the past, which frankly was half gommie. Before niggers and shitskins
>>76822127
Several different ethnic groups and religions where all placed in a single country. Take a gander
This be a true story
>serb or yugo as he called him self came here in the 70ies to work
>worked all his lyfe with my father, my father started at the factory at 16 with him working there
>so he gets retired
>and wants to go home
>to Yugoslavia
go home to Yugoslavia
man that was actually kinda "hard"
Also the kindest man I've ever met, and I think I am named after him. Seriously need to go visit that guy. Like he didn't go straight away after retirement, he hang at this local store and helped people, as if he were working there which we joked with
>>76822585
>several different ethnic groups
Germans, Italians, Spaniards etc are more ethnically diverse within their countries than we were. Not to speak of the US.
The Yugoslavs are the same people, utterly the same. We only failed to create Yugoslav nationalism.
>>76822127
Wrong flag desu
>>76822127
Serbs.
Vojvodinians are the only Yugos who are still with Serbia by their own free will, but that's only due to immigrants from Bosnia.
Literally everyone else considers Serbia a potential enemy.
The only thing left to do is fund the independence of Vojvodina, Sancak and Nis and Yugoslav countries will be prosperous again.
Tito is the only based socialist
>>76822585
>Several different ethnic groups and religions where all placed in a single country. Take a gander
This. It was designed to fail.
>>76822796
>failed to create Yugoslav nationalism
You mean, never even tried?
>>76822882
inshallah mr Mehmet WEWUZ
>>76822127
Depends on who you ask.
"It was the rise of nationalism," said my grandpa, communist party member.
"It was the centralization of finances through Beograd," said my uncle who has a PhD in applied economy theory and also a degree in engineering. What he meant to say what that social projects, like development of Kosovo, were financed by sending funds to Beograd who sent them to the project, naturally after cutting off % for themselves. So the states wanted to finance them directly and Beograd central officials didn't like that.
"It was Marshal's inability to plan things after his death," said my other grandfather. What he meant was that if Tito loosened his grip just a bit and allowed a cyclical federation presidency (while still being the head of the Communist Party and having all the say), the transition would have gone just a bit smoother.
"It was the filthy American capitalists and their Zionists masters," said my grandmother, who was incidentally confirmed Aryan back during the days of occupation.
>>76823112
It WUZ EEBUL SERBS, say retards, unaware that the govt. was ran by Stjepan Mesic at the time of the break up.
>>76822963
I mean stop this bad meme.
You cant even tell your own ethnicty anymore... Thousands converted from catholicism in the times of the turks comming, many more converted from all christian secs to islam, many converted from orthodoxy to catholicism too, medieval borders always changed etc...
Ethnicity here, thanks to the turkish devils, became equal to religion due to nations vanishing.
What you can tho say with great cetainty is that you are a Yugoslav, and that we are a people more similar than say the Spanish who had been unified for 500 years now, so we can too.
I dont see the problem, we all fought in Kosovo together and at other times too. I dont see why King Tomislav, Miloš, Tvrtko, Karađorđe etc aint the heroes of us all.
They ran out of money.
>>76822127
Tito died.
>>76823265
>You cant even tell your own ethnicty anymore
I can, you can't.
>>76823265
>we are a people
WE are a people. YOU are muslims.
>>76822127
The CIA pushed nationalism in the Warsaw Pact, also Marxism-Leninism.
>>76822127
1980 Tito died and since Serbians had a choice who to elect, they elected bunch of Christians who ruined Yugoslavia for foreign money and to play Muslims vs. Christian games, not to mention that inflation started in 1980.
>>76822127
>what went wrong?
a better question would be what didnt
>>76822973
OrJuNa did, as did the good king Alexander. It was the OJN that pointed the king to ban communism too and support integral Yugoslavism.
>>76822796
>Not to speak of the US.
Well don't drag africa into this
>>76822127
>Why did a totalitarian shithole with no money that spied and killed it's own citizens fail?
It's a mystery
>>76823361
>Serbians had a choice who to elect, they elected
A Croat, a Ship, a Muslim, a Hungarian, a Montengrin and a Macedonian
>>76823307
Ah so the northern Bosnia serbs finally accept their turkish origins and split from real pureblood serbs (Herzegovinians, Montenegrin, Serbs proper)?
Good for you I guess.
>>76823333
>deducting that i must be a pedophile worshiper just because I have solid arguments
Turkish filth like you has always tried to break up slavdom so I am not in the very least surprised.
>>76823596
>a macedonian
so a greek?
>>76823628
>Turkish filth like you
>IT IS SERBS WHO ARE TURKS NOT US
>AMIRITE AHMET
>YESURITE MEHMET
>>76823660
go away Tonibler
Jews did this
Balkans have the lowest iq in europe. Once the gibs ran out everybody started killing each other.
Basically a warning for what will happen in the USA once food stamps run out.
>>76823756
>gibs
what
>>76823596
Yet the presidency in the end was
5 serbs, a macedonian, slovene and croat
>>76823359
>marxist-leninism
Literary most people from back then were socalist anti-communists...
>>76822127
>What went wrong?
They tried to sell crap cars.
It should've been a defensive union instead. Like a mini EU without the JEU-part. That would've worked but instead they elected a bunch of WEWUZ protohistorians that jerked off to Medieval History and wanted to relive that shit again.
Nationalism killed the beauty.
Also god damnit, do you know how many countries we had to learn and remember in geography because of this?
God damnit.. and all those ruskie satellites too...
War is hell man... war is hell
Question to you yugos:
Why didn't bulgaria join yugoslavia? Since it was a slavic union
>>76823725
>falling for jewish tito's lies to brainwash bulgarians
>>76823803
You don't form a union of five different warring factions are you an idiot?
>>76823333
Checked
>>76823803
>nationalism is ebil
>sven
>>76823596
Muslims were packed into Muslim towns by Tito and being taught how not to be Islamic retards, of course Serbians had different ideas, they seen this as opportunity to loot and kill them and UN supported it, since they wanted to conquer Yugoslavian market with American products. If you look at those Christian Democrats of Yugoslavia, they voted for EU, they got USA money. Really similar stories in middle east nowadays or Ukraine, dumb Christians who think they fight for Jesus when their leaders only want money.
>>76823704
No no I am not saying anything against real serbs, just you inbreds. Real serbs are like all Yugoslavs of godly descent, while same cant be said of you...
I mean why do you even bother, you can at best hope that half of your ancestors were croats, I am praying you have no gypsie or turkish blood like many in srpska posavina
>>76823812
Dimitrov (Bulgarian president or smth and a friend of Tito) died early and Stalin was also opposed to a Balkan Federation. And to think they wanted to include Albania too, well untill Hoxha went bonkers with bunkers.
>>76823950
I don't get the bunkers memes
explain
>>76823803
No it was the lack of nationalism which was the problem
>>76823847
>what is Germany
>what is Italy
>>76823915
we wuz we wuz
we wuz best hungarian we wuz perfume not smell
to our albania cousines you may come our contry
remove christian remove christian Croatia is best slav only slav not subhuman hitler said so
>>76823847
>You don't form a union of five different warring factions are you an idiot?
Yes you do. You kill the ones wanting war and then you do.
>>76823863
What was it then? All explanations are nationalisticly motivated. What would happen is Crete realize they are ethnically pure Greeks and want to secede? Or if Thessaly suddenly decides to form a Macedonian nation and leave your country? All of you are severely mixed. The worst that can happen to the Balkans is national socialism, because then they will all find out the truth when their tests come back.
>>76824014
Maybe. And also that could be fixed. Regional nationalism was the main problem.
>>76824004
Oh Albania has a bunker for every citizen since Albania was the original North Korea
>sino-soviet split
>sheeptars side with China
>cultural revolution in China
>Albania gets friendzoned
you to school one day... you remember all the countries in the world...
The next day..
>Great news everyone
>We have won, the Soviet Union has collapsed
yaaaaaay... do we don't have to go to that stupid nuclear bunker inside the mountain all the time then?
>no we will stop doing that now
it smelled funny there
>but students here is a new map, there are many many new countries now we all have to remember the name of and where is etc
nooooooooooooooooooo, we will go to the bunker instead
>>76824004
Well that Hoxha dude went full nationalist and thought that Yugoslavia and Greece were planning an attack on Albania so he fortified the country as best as he could by building bunkers literally everywhere which were to be used by a guerilla resistance.
>>76823950
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito%E2%80%93Stalin_Split
> was a conflict between the leaders of SFR Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union, which resulted in Yugoslavia's expulsion from the Communist Information Bureau (Cominform) in 1948.
Le American may may.
>>76824080
>What would happen is Crete realize they are ethnically pure Greeks and want to secede?
Are you retarded or what
>>76824080
>You kill the ones wanting war
So everyone.
>>76824108
That happened due to the fact that Tito wanted full autonomy in the soviet sphere and Stalin didn't like anyone not obeying his orders.
>>76824025
>goatfucker unable to comprehend facts nor speak common sense
I do not see why you bring that imbecile Hitler (who had the chance to make europe a fortress nation and unite white men but failed) or dirty caucasians like the sheeptars into this?
As for Hungary, Croats and real Serbs held the border for centuries and saved Europe.
>>76822127
The soviet Union didn't liberate them
>>76822127
I'm not that butthurt that it ended, I'm butthurt how it ended. And I doubt there is a chance of it ever coming back.
good riddance I say...
>>76824216
>a literal neonazi
stereotype complete
>real Serbs
hey that's me
Twas just a prototype, next time you'll see
>>76824219
(You)
>>76822127
O B L I G A T O R Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08
>>76824147
No, just the moist influential ones. Do it in public. Learn from Hoxha.
>>76824135
>What is my genetic Mixup I'm greek
>lmao dude wewuz
>what is greek modern history
No I'm not, start researching.
You see OP.
On Balkans. You have two types of nations. You have those who want to serve outside enemies, and then you have Serbs.
Combine the two into a collectivist union and you get things like Srebrenica.
>>76824196
Every Socialistic country wanted full autonomy, that's what Socialism is about, they only diplomatic when there was war. Hitler was working with Stalin too, but they all wanted their own countries. Only American logic is such that we need to be united. It really doesn't matters what races lived in Yugoslavia, since they didn't mix among each other. Each race living in Yugoslavia was like its own country with borders, but those borders were regulated by laws and propaganda. Nobody even thought about marrying outside of race or to cheat. Marriages all lasted entire life.
>>76824251
>neonazi
Seriously you get that low
>that's me
Idk mate, there is something wrong with Bosnian serbs as other serbs act far more intelligent and far more reasonable than the average bosnianigger.
>>76824299
You are a cuckold.
>>76824299
This proves literally nothing
"lol stormfront told me if i post this pic i win the argument"
>>76822127
Germany
>>76824082
What is the lineage of their King?
Is he a valid King, or have they done like the anglos did and chosen a peasant King, that is not allowed to have that title?
Just saying, it better be one that hails back to the ása or vanic Gods... England did this all the time this they finally got a real King on the throne permanently.
>>76822127
stupid thread is stupid
>>76824329
>implying that serving the Moscow Khanate is any different
>>76824299
wrong pic
>>76824354
Nah it doesn't. Because Racial Biology isn't real right? right?
>>76824344
Nice comeback.
>>76824279
You mean the EU ? I always considered funny how countries in Europe fought for hundreds of years not to be in the same country with their neighbours only to become the same country with everyone. I cannot wait for that powderkeg to explode Yugo 2.0
>>76824343
>other serbs
There is no "other Serbs". There is Serbs, then there is muslims and stableboys.
>>76824284
>Serbs dindu nuffin all powerful CIA agent convinced everybody to be nationalist we were only pretending to be retarded
Into the trash
>>76824394
>serving the Moscow Khanate
Who is?
>>76824432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szT9vg6e8W8
>crumbling economy
>parasitic goverment-worker class because lol 100% employment
>shortage of goods
>hyper-inflation
>old grudges from WWII (Bleiburg/Jasenovac)
>general totalitarian shit like the secret police
It's a miracle it lasted as long as it did
>>76824080
>What would happen is Crete realize they are ethnically pure Greeks and want to secede? Or if Thessaly suddenly decides to form a Macedonian nation and leave your country? All of you are severely mixed. The worst that can happen to the Balkans is national socialism, because then they will all find out the truth when their tests come back.
What the flying fuck is this? If you don't understand things in other countries you better not talk about them, you seem pretty retarded
People here are very dumb. That's the truth.
>>76824509
>t. Tonibler
>>76824432
>t.diaspora Bosnian Muslim
>>76824469
One side is true and the other is blatant lies. Can you guess which one?
>>76824432
so how do you explain >>76824469 again? Not going full tinfoil mode, but """it really makes you think"""
>>76824506
Make a genetics test. I suggest 23andMe.
That'd be fun.
tl:dr; chances that you're "Greek" is approx 3% have fun LARPING.
>>76824417
DELETE THIS
SVEN HAVE NIGGER DNA
>>76824490
>implying democratic degeneracy is better than autocracy
>>76824535
>people are not dumb here
>elect a fat village fool who steals as much as he eats as the president of his entity
>>76824580
Who's the authority on the test?
>>76822127
Bad idea from start to finish.
>>76824637
>a fat village fool who steals as much as he eats
prove it Mehmet
>>76823756
>american education
>>76824490
You are a retard, government was controlled by people, they could elect representatives of any industry and dispose of them any day. The only parasite here are Christians who took American money to play their thousand year old Christian retard propaganda and wanted to rule supreme. Democracy is an illusion, you don't decide what laws are made, you only vote for political parties who all shit over you.
>>76824417
Can you please explain to me how these studies were made?
Are you retarded?
What are you even trying to prove here?
Are you a complete fucking moron or what?
>Muh haplotypes
This literally proves nothing
Macedonia is greek because of high bulgarian populations living there
Also you just told me that crete was pure, this completely contradicts your argument
suicide
KO NAS ZAVADI HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>76824665
inshallah motherfucker
>>76824690
jedini gori od turcina je onaj koji oce sanjim da suruje
>>76824665
>government was controlled by people,
>people decide to secede from Yugoslavia
>YOU CAN'T DO THAT *GREATER SERBIA INTENSIFIES*
Yeah sure
>>76824535
Exhibit A.
>>76824653
>Mehmed
Bad meme is bad
>"Dodik isnt a theif he is a good goi he earned his 10 villas and milions fairly"
Like said, aside sandžak subhumans there isnt a dumber population than Bosnian serboturks. (not counting sheeptars since they aint people)
>>76824580
Keep saying that nordicist bs. You have failed looking into genetic researches already done, proving there still is continuity from ancient times.
You talk about regionalism, or what the fuck is called in english, in Greece, as if you know something about it, which you don't. Nobody is regionalist in Greece, only some backwards retarded old fucks and maybe some fuckers in villages that fuck goats. Then there are the Cypriots, only they can be seen as regionalists in the Greek Nation, today.
>>76824665
True, Yugoslavia got the closest to the marxist ideal of a worker's democracy, too bad it had to die the way it did, it was a nice project.
>>76824777
>>government was controlled by people,
>>people decide to secede from Croatia
>>YOU CAN'T DO THAT *SUCKING GERMAN DICK INTENSIFIES*
haha
>>76824802
Prove your claims Mehmet
>>76824726
Ko tvoji pradjedovi a? ;)
>>76824558
What is there to explain? The video proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that one side copied the other in attempt to muddy the waters. Who actually had the upper hand in vukovar? Hmm well I'd imagine it would be the Serbs considering the jna literally burned it to the ground.
>>76824826
>people decide to secede from Croatia
What?
>>76824640
https://www.23andme.com/en-eu/
>>76824614
Oh snälla Norge, you have chink DNA. :P
>>76824669
>this completely contradicts your argument
>suicide
That's Asian Admixture. Lmao. That only proves there are chinks in Turkey. Can you even handle hablogroup studies? DNA passes down from fathers, and you seem to have a fuck ton of different fathers. You're a multiracial nation with the same religion and a post-historical culture that is in no way "Ancient".
>>76824811
>roving there still is continuity from ancient times.
Yes, not saying different. Around 10% tops.
>>76824811
>You talk about regionalism
Nope. Racialism.
>>76824886
Kako to Mehmete?
>>76824777
You forget that you secceded along with the slovenes because of the serbs, Milosevic wanted more power for Serbia so the old Yugo had to go, too bad that he forgot there were serbian minorities in your countries so that after you destroyed Yugoslavia together you started fighting.
>>76824777
That wasn't the point. The NATIONS had the right to separate according to 1974 Constitution. Not republics, nations.
So Serbs in Croatia had the right to leave, yet you opposed that. Why are pretending Croatian leadership was any more noble or civilized than Milošević?
I'm not even saying Krajina wasn't dumb as fuck, but if you use that argument, then they had the right to leave.
>>76822127
communism, you evenutlally run out of other peoples money cunt.
but you ought to know that, you live in greece.
Yugoslavia only meant greater Serbia, that's a fact. And the funny thing is, if it weren't for the Croats(and Slovenians but who cares), it would have probably worked, cause the other nations bought that shit no holds barred.
So no, it was shit, we may be not doing good now, but at least it's not expected of us to be Serbs.
>>76824849
>has 10s of millions worth in property
>earned them fairly
You are either
>a naive 12 yo
>a semi-gypsy village moron
>>76822796
>Germans, Italians, Spaniards etc are more ethnically diverse within their countries than we were.
yea right...Slovenes and Croats look normal, European, The Bosniaks look like Turks/Albos, Serbs look like Bulgarians with an overdose on Semitic genes, Macedonians look like a mix of Bulgarians/Albanians/Greeks.
Yugoslav ''nationalism'' existed, only it was artificial, and could not replace the original nationalism of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs.
And apart from the laguage similarities you guys are far away from being similar. Cultural, ethinic, historical, geopolitical, mental etx. differences are bigger ten it seems. Yugoslavia was a cancer for Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and it was thankfully removed.
>>76824986
What is the issue here?
>>76824777
Of course, everyone fought for Greater Serbia while the country eventually ended up being smaller and smaller and more of a puppet state than anything. Genius
>>76824915
Once again this doesn't prove shit
J2 literally says Greco-Roman
E3b literally says Greek
kill yourself sven
>>76824944
Well it was a better system than today
Capitalism is genocide
>>76824888
you're so fucking naive if you think it wasn't coordinated, no wonder you succumbed to feminism
>>76824949
>expected of us to be Serbs
I would rather kill myself to avoid being associated with you than want you to become one of my own.
>>76824923
>Not republics, nations.
Learn the difference between nationality and nation, the 1974 Constitution defined the borders of the federal states and those borders were enacted when the secession happened
>>76825001
>t. Croat diasporafag
>>76824915
> Around 10% tops.
try about 70-80% if you apply it to the whole population.
>Nope. Racialism.
You have no fucking clue. Please stop kidding yourself.
>>76824949
Oh yes, how hard we wanted that sweet sweet Slovenian clay!!! Good things you guise stopped us
>>76825007
You being proof of what the montenegrin said, people here are retarded
>>76825001
>anyone here looking none white
>bosniaks and slovenes being a real people
>slovene nationalism
>not created in 1945
The Dalmatian croats look more med than Slavonians, so Croatia is articifial too?
>>76825032
I think the problems we have today are due to globalism. Capitalism, when limited to its own country improves the living standard of the people.
But right now capitalism wants to use cheap labor from 3rd world countries, to produce goods which get exported to western countries. They basically make 3rd world shitholes richer on the expense of us.
>>76825009
Reminder that Yugoslavia was supposed to be transferred to a SRJ+RS+RSK union.
Which was prevented by EU. Which stands as proof of others being puppets.
>>76825047
who asked you anything Strahinja?
There is nothing funnier than seeing Bosserbs think they're relevant in any way.
>>76825162
>people here are retarded
t. Tonibler
>>76825037
The only thing that was coordinated in that war was the intended partition of Bosnia by Croatia and Serbia and you guys fucked even that up because you're a bunch of low iq Balkan baboons
>>76825172
You have to prove your claims, otherwise they're just that, claims
>>76822882
Give back it to us
This thread again?
Smh tbqh famillia kys fgt ngr
>>76825172
Yeup, Europe didn't want another powerful country after the fall of the iron courtain so they supported Yugo's disolution in order to later "annex" the states to its own union
>>76825169
But you cant take globalism out of capitalism, that is like taking marxism out of communism. Cant be done since capitalists are greedy animals just like communists are morons
>>76825262
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republika_Srpska_dinar
>>76825276
shh i'm trying to trigger a balkan thread
>>76822127
The whole country was basically double agent for Both Soviets and Americans . When cold war was over, yugoslavia was over.
>>76823265
>I dont see why King Tomislav, Miloš, Tvrtko, Karađorđe etc aint the heroes of us all.
because they were Serbian or Croat kings/rulers and were recorded as such. They were not ''yugoslav kings'' because Yugoslavism is a artificial and made-up nationalitythat was first mentioned in late 19th century. Just like American or Canadian or Australian ''nationality''. It never existed.
>>76822127
Tito is kil
>>76825310
Reminder that Yugoslavia broke up in 2006.
>>76825025
>J2 literally says Greco-Roman
>E3b literally says Greek
Sure, but E-DNA comes from Africa. And J from Phoenicia.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J1_Y-DNA.shtml
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml#ice_age
Very European.
>>76825135
It's OK to be triggered, We are here for (You).
>>76825252
yeah, it was coordinated by Croatia and Serbia, that's why it's called "Dayton Agreement"
>>76825071
>sa pravom naroda na samoopredjeljenje do odcjepljenja
Please, please don't be such an asswipe to pretend NAROD means ''nationality''.
Narod is Serb, Croat, Muslim and so on.
>1974 Constitution defined the borders of the federal states
Borders were defined in 1943, that had literally nothing to do with Constitution of 1974.
Constitution clearly states nations (ethnicities) had the right to secede, and that includes secession from republics themselves, since there is no further explanation of the term.
>>76825374
That was just a shadow of Yugo's former self, it was just Serbia and Montenegro.
>>76822476
>Implying it doesn't
>>76825353
Neither did German or Italian really yet it came to exist.
German and Italian in past were used in same sense as South Slav today.
>>76825429
I swear you never sleep. I saw you shitposting 8 hours ago before I went to bed and here you are again
>>76825436
>it was just Serbia and Montenegro
Well it was supposed to be (blue) >>76825249 but there were many western-backed opponents of that.
That's what I'm saying, Yugoslavia would still exist today if we (Serbs) were granted a right of autonomy like everyone else does.
But, on the flip side, we are not in debt to anyone for our freedom. For our freedom we fought ourselves. For "freedom" of Croatia and Muslimania, they are still in debt to EU.
>>76825411
>Phoenicians
>not greek
>it literally says greek
>in the study you fucking linked
>not greek
Also I don't give a shit if we're not european,
>>76825353
Neither did Italy, Romania nor Spain... Hell Saint Alexander Nevski is a russian hero but he never ruled or lived in a countey called Russia
Meanwhile
>Tvrtko's greatgrandfather was the serbian emperor
>Tomislav saved Serbia from the Bulgars
Etc
That is why adore King Alexander for, for instance, loving king Tomislav. Even Vladika Njegoš was so broad that he admired Jelačić
>>76825001
exactly. Slovenia is Austria-tier. Mazedonia is Greece-tier. No way you can get that into one nation. Just look at the EU.
>>76822796
Germany has a (historically forged) strong federalism. Italy's north and south will never grow together. The Mezzogiorno is a different country. Spain, as a nation state is a failure. They will be having their independence movements for all eternity.
>>76822360
That's not enough to destroy a country. Just look at Greece, NK, Russia, Spain, Italy, etc... from an economic standpoint.
Yugoslavia didn't have a national identity. That's what ultimately did it in. I cannot relate to a Croat, Serb, Bosnian, etc...
It came to be only out of necessity. It wasn't meant to last.
>>76825353
> german talking against an ethnic group being united
what the actual fuck?
>>76825496
I wasn't even on /pol/ last night
>>76824777
People elect representatives --> People's party --> instructions for Tito's Communist party what laws to create.
People's elected representatives had meeting with Communist party all the time and their voice was voice of the people.
Laws:
http://www.verfassungen.eu/sl/verfgesetz53.htm:
34. Člen. Ljudske poslance za Zbor proizvajalcev volijo kot predstavnike svojih gospodarskih organizacij delavci in uslužbenci gospodarskih podjetij, člani kmetijskih zadrug ter obrtniki in obrtni delavci.
Basically telling you that employees who are employed in some industry elect representatives of their industry, those representatives then go on meetings with Communist party and tell them what laws need to be made or changed to suit the needs of that industry.
38. Člen. Volivci imajo pravico odpoklicati ljudskega poslanca.
This law tells you that voters can fire people's representatives and replace them if they don't do their job.
Of course king's pets aka Christians didn't like this, since they like to suck balls of their Jewish overlord monarchs and give oligarchs money while oligarchs fuck you from all sides, for muh Jesus of course.
>>76825249
>montenegrins aren't serbs
wat
joj kako se pecate na ove tredove pa to nije realno , koji ste jadnici
zabavljate ostali narod sa vasim sranjima, i to im jos lepo servirate na engleskom hahah
>>76825532
>SANU propagandist garbage
>accurate representation of where Serbs lived
>>76825608
They're honorary Serbs, like Macedonia - as long as we don't have to worry about them attacking or converting to Islam.
>>76825162
>bosniaks and slovenes being a real people
Slovenes had a sense of themselves for a long time. Bosniaks are a cruel mistake of nature.
First Croats or Serbs, Then you became Turks, then Bosniaks, then Croats, Then ''Muslims'' (by nationality) then Yugoslavs, then in 1993 again, Bosniaks..you are nothing. Just a mistake that should be eradicated.
>>76825162
>The Dalmatian croats look more med than Slavonians
Still, it's the same people. I'm talking about national ethnicity, not small regional differences.
>>76824915
J2 is literally an Greco-Italic haplogroup, though
Look up the close genetical relation between Italians from Tuscany and Greeks
This goes way back to Etruscans,Romans and other Central Italic tribes
>>76825615
meni su ove najdraze da podjebavam muslimane
>>76825624
>Serbian Krajina doesn't beings real
Why are you Croatians always so fucking retarded?
aj vi meni muslimani recite sta vama fali da postanete Hrvati?
>>76824915
>Oh snälla Norge, you have chink DNA. :P
4/10 sven... You should have gone for the ape, fjeldaber.. it was right there
or how about shut up paki infected dna inbred monkeys.. oh wait...
Just shitposting, there was a proxy swede we had to help bant our selves a few nights a go, as always the norway hate threads turns into patriotic ones with flags, northugs, vikernes and breivik everywhere
smoking this early like a degenerate nigger... god damnit.. to early.. and it's werkout day again
>>76825571
>Germany has a (historically forged) strong federalism
when we say DEUTSCH or GERMAN - it means something that dates back, almost 2000 years. It's different then Yugoslavism whichwas a artificial form of national identity forged at the beginning of the 20th century, and later adopted by commies.
It tried to replace the ancient national feelings and roots of Serbs, Slovenes and Croats, all who I respect separately and who all have their separate history.
>>76824425
No, EU is a failed project from the beginning, too many different mindsets cant function together. Yugos are the same mindset, we just need a common enemy to function, to force us to see we are brothers in arms
>>76825589
>> german talking against an ethnic group being united
Croats and Slovenes CANNOT be in the same ethnic group as Macedonians, Bosniaks or Serbs. They are different.
Understand that there is no such thing as a ethnic group in the Balkans. Just a number of different nations with a similar language. Similar language doesn't define ethnicity, nor can it be a foundation for unifying several nations that developed separately from each other for more then a 1000 years with different interests, customs, geopolitical ideas, religious background etc.
>>76825740
IQ im fali, da se oni nama pridruže, prosječni IQ u RH bi pao sa 90 na 80.
bolje da nam se kinezi pridruže nego oni.
>>76825863
>we are brothers in arms
top cuck
>>76822127
Tito died.
The end.
sometimes I wonder if the americans got this flag waving and "USA USA USA" from us..
To be quite honest we are like 10 times more "exceptional" than those guys. Sven.. knows.. oh.. Sven knows.. He think's that is bad and whines in the papers, getting bombarded in comments with norks keking the place up.
"Ebil nazi norway strikes again"
Nah I leave you to it now
>>76825001
Adorable,the German is once again afraid of the notion of losing his outposts in Croatia and Slovenia,so he is forced to claim that all of us are completely different in all possible ways while at the same time,he dares to claim German federalism is strong even though the Holy Roman Empire throughout it's entire history has only existed on paper,while Bismarck's Germany could only be united through brutal bloodshed and cultural assimilation akin to the one used during the early Muslim conquests of North Africa and Persia.
" Yugoslavia was a cancer for Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and it was thankfully removed."-Still not over the fact that you're allegedly superior nation has been soundly defeated by untrained,severely outnumbered and vastly outgunned Yugoslav Partisans?
>>76826056
>Tito died
You all/most still love this guy down there right?
>2016
>People don't think the United States and the Švabo tried to destroy Yugo union because they feared an anti-muslim brotherhood becoming stronger
We were an enemy for their plans that they manage to show us today, the genocide of European people would have become much more difficult with us being united
>>76825652
>muslim bosniak jimmies: RUSTLED
Sorry but the Foibe are a hoax made up by the Italian right.
Srebrenica, that's not a hoax.
lol cry fggt
>>76825779
"Yugoslavian nationalism which was a artificial form of national identity forged at the beginning of the 20th century"
-That's rich coming from someone who hails from a country which was only created at the very end of the 19th century,as a countermeasure against Russian and French dominance on the continent.
>>76826183
>Powerful countries conspired to destroy Yugoslavia I swear Yugoslavia was relevant and powerful I swear
Why are yugos so deluded?
>>76826270
kinda proving his point Jamal
>>76826270
>We would not become poweful with more and more capitalistic economical background till the 2010s
Nice meme, burger
>>76826184
Not rustled at all,just willing to see if you were a typical cat eater who is willing to compose the lamentations for former collaborators.
Also,I'm not Muslim.
>>76826151
I have nothing more to say to a muslim bosniak/yugoslav communist idiot who denies facts by throwing at me some deluded conspiracy theory of us Germans wanting''outposts'' in Slovenia or Croatia..You have to be out of your fucking mind. Secondly, the word and definition of ''BEING GERMAN'' - predates the the federalism ideas. It was always a identity definition by all Germans for example ''Yes, I'm Saxon, German'', or ''I'm Bavarian, German''
The last part of your message is so utterly idiotic that i'm not even going to bother.
>>76826402
Kill yourself you massive cuckold
>>76826263
Being GERMAN is something you don't understand you stupid idiot! It predates modern politics and federalism ideas of the 19th century!
>>76826505
>Being GERMAN
is a parody of life.
>>76826270
She actually was,a country with the fifth most powerful conventional army and one of the founding members(and best leader) of the Non-Aligned movement,a sociopolitical movement which protected the interests of 1.3 billion people by successfully refuting all the attempts of both Blocks at engulfing the entire planet with their equally moronic bullshit for almost half a century.Also,the European Union would've never allowed such a country to remain alive on something she sees as her"sphere of influence".
>>76825532
If Serbs didnt want to live with Croats they shouldnt have come here.
It is that simple.
Tito died,some are glad today that ther is no Yugoslavia and some want it back.
>>76826402
Which facts would that be?The ones that were specifically created and distributed by those who've always considered us as an obstacle in their political machinations?I find it infinitely amusing how all the countries that are being viewed as the ones being responsible for the violent dissolution of Yugoslavia are always the ones who're constantly using that specific argument?
" It was always a identity definition by all Germans for example ''Yes, I'm Saxon, German'', or ''I'm Bavarian, German'' "-Is that why the German states have always been mostly at war with each other during most of their recorded history?
>The last part of your message is so utterly idiotic that i'm not even going to bother
"He is right,I better call his argument idiotic because I have no arguments whatsoever.
>>76822360
She was never behind the Iron Curtain,she was one of the founding members of the Non-Aligned movement and it's most effective leader and please,that theory about her being kept alive by Western credits is not even supported by her most notorious,anti-Yugoslav former republics,let alone by any Eastern and Western country with a respectable academic past.
Also,the main reason why she failed as a country is because she didn't succeed at creating and promoting a united Yugoslav identity.
>>76827241
There was nothing to build that Yugoslav identity on. We arent the same ethnicity, religion, dont have the same history or language.
>>76827030
My balls! Dat pic
I don't know all your internal strifes though I know many of you up here, my brother has a serbian wyfe and my best friend is an albanian, I'm not a subhuman my self.
Tend not to talk about it either, unless they bring it up. No troubles with internal strife between you faggots up here though, that's very respectful, but the albos and serbs they don't talk. Avoid each other.
Mostly the serbs came here first and the albos after and during the war. I'm not sure of the others tbqh I wuz not so old and it was just yugoslavians to me like in the 80ies
Nah I find you guys based though, hospitable, generous and warm hearted people you can trust, not jews. We're a bit colder and harder up here.
Multicultular, multiethinc, multinational, multireligional state. What could go wrong.
>>76827038
>Is that why the German states have always been mostly at war with each other during most of their recorded history?
Exactly. But we usually stand together when there's an exterior enemy.
In general I want to tell you: You overestimate your importance. Nobody in the West knows much about the Balkans other than that it is a mess.
>>76826539
a degenerate shitskin muslim communist with a identity crisis from the shithole of Europe calls my people a parody...
Too much kebab
In future remove kebab
>>76822127
>he thinks Catholics, Orthodox, mudslimes and gypsies can live together
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>76827714
That's the Hans we want to see... he is waking up
Must be bad in germany in the present moment though, but you have done this before. The only thing missing is a total economic disaster, and you are square back in the 20ies.... Remember in this time of traitors and degenerates, no food, being fucking by jews, just like now... Even Göbbels didn't even want to get up in the morning..
Rise Hans, Rise!
Now I'm gonna start some werkout with my Hitler aggro vids. Man the guy should have been a PT too.
It's sad you can't see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFOGCKWHf1o&feature=youtu.be&t=24
aaaah ... fucking lights a fire in me, I cannot describe this and I am off testo now even, I thought it was a testo reaction how druggies react to techno music sounds etc
or even Katy Perry music vids, fucking commie stasi kill them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1vZ8LnZWCw
>>76824490
t.Croat who was denied his god-given right to bask in the glory of being a servant to his Germanic overlords.
>>76822796
>yugoslav nationalism
>>76824490
>general totalitarian shit like the secret police
I fucking laugh at this meme
We wuz totalitarian n shiet
This were the golden years, fuck your fake 'democracy', the Marshall was all in all a political geniuse
>>76822127
Serbs
Croats
>>76827595
>Exactly. But we usually stand together when there's an exterior enemy
Third years war and the warlike behaviors of Bavaria,Hanover,Prussia,Saxony and Mecklenburg,Posen and Schleswig all beg to differ.
>Nobody in the West knows much about the Balkans other than that it is a mess
Because you have a long-standing tradition of intentionally ignoring and overlooking everything that factually defies your narrative,a very common problem of yours when it comes to Slavic history.
>>76827714
With all due respect,but you Germans are the biggest mutts of Europe whose country would've looked like a Greek ruin if it weren't for the generosity of the entire Western civilization which has financed the reparation and the impending modernization of your country for almost half a century.
>>76828067
True,we probably would've gotten along better if we were all former dregs of early modern British society and life-long prisoners.
>What went wrong?
Shitty country with shitty people. It will turn to shit if you don't have something like an outside Roman emperor to rule it with iron hand.
>>76828982
Talking out of first-hand experience with your former Austrian leader of partially Semitic origin?
No successors after Tito died
>>76822410
Nope
>>76822127
We took the credits we could not afford to pay back, at the same time the death of Tito left us in power vacuum.
>>76828849
>>Exactly. But we usually stand together when there's an exterior enemy
>Third years war and the warlike behaviors of Bavaria,Hanover,Prussia,Saxony and Mecklenburg,Posen and Schleswig all beg to differ.
Thirty years war: yes.
Napoleonic wars: yes.
maybe add Nine Years War about Palatine.
Germany didn't stand together in these conflicts and paid a hefty price.
Other than that: mostly internal conflicts or some region having beef with someone else outside. Nothing special.
>Because you have a long-standing tradition of intentionally ignoring and overlooking everything that factually defies your narrative,a very common problem of yours when it comes to Slavic history.
What "narrative" do we have about slavic countries?
>>76830326
The one which which is predominately based on the "Drang Nach Osten" and various Cold War containment policies?I bet Western history rarely mentions who founded most German cities in all of Eastern and most of Central Germany.
>>76830326
>Germany didn't stand together in these conflicts and paid a hefty price.
There was no Germany until the end of the 19th century.
>>76830748
>The one which which is predominately based on the "Drang Nach Osten" and various Cold War containment policies?
Cold War containment is more of a US thing. We quickly tried to make Ostpolitik under Brandt. "Drang nach Osten" is just the nature of an expanding political entity that's restricted from expanding westwards.
What do these "narratives" have to do with our worldview regarding the balkans?!
>>76830796
This bullshit again. 1871 was the birth of Germany as a modern political nation state. But Germany exists for much longer, for example as the "Heilige römisches Reich deutscher Nation". Emphasis on "deutscher Nation"
.>>76828849
>With all due respect,but you Germans are the biggest mutts of Europe whose country would've looked like a Greek ruin if it weren't for the generosity of the entire Western civilization which has financed the reparation and the impending modernization of your country for almost half a century.
Again, complete bullshit. Marshall aid was in fact not a huge amount of money. It was about 5% of the (post-war!!) GDP. Greece got 150% of GDP bailouts. And we paid back almost all of it. Germany was rebuilt by German women.
>>76822882
>Not siding with the based kebab removers to finally remove Islamic filth from Europe
>Bringing in minor racial/cultural differences so you can not join the Serbs
Fampai, if I was in your position, I would have just given up on any past differences, and just joined the Serbs
>>76822127
Slovenia ruined it
They're cunts
>>76832331
>And we paid back almost all of it
Indeed,but only after it was reduced for 78% of it's original worth,during the conference of London.
>Germany was rebuilt by German women
Believe it whatever makes you feel about yourself,history won't care about it.
>>76832331
Originally it was just an American thing,but it was spread quickly on the rest of Western civilization and no,the "Drang nach Osten" was a term coined in the 19th century to designate German expansion into Slavic lands. The term became a motto of the German nationalist movement in the late nineteenth century. In some historical discourses, "Drang nach Osten" combines historical German settlement in Central and Eastern Europe, medieval (12th-13th centuries) military expeditions like the ones of the Teutonic Knights (see Northern Crusades), and Germanisation policies and warfare of Modern Age German states like the Nazi Lebensraum concept.Also,it was a part of a wider nationalist discourse approving the medieval settlement in the east and the idea of the superiority of German culture above the Slavic one,which should be eradicated by all means possible,of which the most effective one was widespread historical misinformation,tendentious writing,dehumanization tactics and outright genocides. It was one of the core elements of German nationalism and part of Nazi ideology, as Adolf Hitler said on 7 February 1945: It is eastwards, only and always eastwards, that the veins of our race must expand. It is the direction which Nature herself has decreed for the expansion of the German peoples.
>What do these "narratives" have to do with our worldview regarding the Balkans
Because they coincide well with the belief that Slavic people are inherently inferior savages and bringers of ruin to all forms of heightened civilization.
"This bullshit again. 1871 was the birth of Germany as a modern political nation state"-It's not bullshit if it's true.
"Emphasis on "German Nation"-It only existed on paper,to make matters worse,the official languages of the Holy Roman nobility were Latin and Late medieval Bohemian.
"It was about 5% of the (post-war!!) GDP"-History begs to differ,you've been the biggest recipients of the Marshall's plan,but only after Great Britain,that is.
>>76822127
If everyone in former Yugoslavia hated Turks, why did they start fighting one another and calling eachother turks instead of just genociding the actual Turks?
I'm sure Armenia and Greece would've been up for it.
>>76824777
>government was controlled by people,
>people decide to secede from America
>YOU CAN'T DO THAT *UNITED STATES INTENSIFIES*
It's pretty common.
Though fwiw you weren't totally cucked like Scotland.
>90% + in favour of independence despite very real prospect of war
>>76822381
This.
>>76822585
You just described the US though.
>>76822127
geopolitical interests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08
>>76834465
A bit onesided how you describe all the Ostsiedlungs-stuff. There was a movement in the 19th century called Polenbegeisterung (lit. Poland enthusiasm) in Germany, which was an identification of German democrats and nationalists with the Polish democratisation and independence efforts. But ok, let's leave it at that. Because it isn't my main concern. The fact that the slavic and the germanic spheres often interfered and interacted is nothing unusual at all during the course of centuries.
I wanted to clarify on the connection with the Balkans. When I said we don't really know much about who is against who and which interests are colliding in this part of Europe then I didn't talk about the slavic realm, only about the Balkans alone. In Germany we have a very high opinion of Czechia, Poland and even Russia.
>Because they coincide well with the belief that Slavic people are inherently inferior savages and bringers of ruin to all forms of heightened civilization.
And therefore this is untrue. Russian literature and music is really very well regarded here. And Kafka one of the most read authors in Germany (he wrote in german of course, but still).
>"Emphasis on "German Nation"-It only existed on paper
?
"Teutsche Libertät" was a political concept that came to pass after the Reichsstände - important figures like dukes, bishops and knighthoods - felt that papal Rome was a foreign power that dictatet german matters too much. It was an early national interest as it emerge in e.g. France at the same time.
>to make matters worse,the official languages of the Holy Roman nobility were Latin and Late medieval Bohemian.
Among others, correct. The emphasis on nobility, ofc.
>>76834360
>>And we paid back almost all of it
>Indeed,but only after it was reduced for 78% of it's original worth,during the conference of London.
Correct.
>>Germany was rebuilt by German women
>Believe it whatever makes you feel about yourself,history won't care about it.
Sorry, that's how it is. Germany was rebuilt by Germans (and a few guest workers from Italy and Portugal). Read a book.
>>76836809
>SERBS A GUD BOYS DEY DIN DU NUFFIN
>>76822127
Ustase and kebab
I forgot my copypasta:
every balkan thread ever
>nationalists shitting at each other
>cucks crying "b-but all of our countries are shit!!! pls help us EU!!!"
>diaspora pretending to know shit about "muh homeland" even though their families emigrated when they were 4 years old
>muh clay
>slavs and turk rape babies calling themselves true whites
>muh 1990s
>non-Balkans who fetishize the region because of war songs from 20 years ago but really have no understanding of what things have ever been like
>eventually someone posts cultural destruction pics from the wars
>thread devolves into /int/-tier garbage with everybody posting in serbo-croatian
>>76838109
you forgot:
>war is hell
>>76824911
Republic of Serbian Krajina. Didn't you learn anything in school?
>>76838500
I'll add that to the copypasta for future Balkan threads.
>Hungary and Austria-Hungary
>consists of Germans, Hungarians, Czechs, poles, Croats and Bosnians (muslims)
>1000 years without any major civil wars or conflicts
>eternal Serb comes along and destroys it
>eternal Serb creates Yugoslavia aka Greater Serbia
>countries secede
>serbroaches attack Croatia
>>76822127
Idiotic spending and building up of debt that Tito the commie nigger would cast on Yugoslavia after he died.
Franjo Tudjman was a catholic fascist, holocaust-denying, anti-semite.
And he dindu nuffin
>>76840579
>Franjo Tudjman was a catholic fascist, holocaust-denying, anti-semite.
wow..he just became one of my idols! thanks..Tudjman was BASED
>>76839313
this must be one of those ''white power - serbia protecting christian white race warriors'' kek
>>76822585
B-but multiculturalism is good goym
>>76840579
He was a commie bastard
>>76824014
>what is Italy
Italy is not a unified country despite going through a very nationalist phased during fascist times.
We still have the north vs south hatred, the disputes between regions and even between different cities.
Different people don't mix without completely losing their identity
>Balkans have been the sick man of Europe since forever
>triggered World War 1
>fought two separate wars amongst themselves during World War 1
>After World War 1, the British Foreign Office in Novi Pazar works its ass off to prevent another Balkans chimpout and maintain the balance-of-powers in Europe.
>spies all over Belgrade from every nation
>Brits succesfully stall World War 2 from happening until Hitler comes in and throws the chessboard against the wall
The simple answer: they just hate each other and unless there's a bigger bully to keep them in check, they'll go on murdering each other.
>>76825576
So pretty much what's going to happen to EU, ultimately?
>>76822796
"yugoslavs" not all. Especially the Kosovo region etc., they're mostly albanians, who are "real albanians" (if you don't want to call them illyrians) +some ottomans/turks/newgreeks +some slavs
>>76822127
Look at the flag, it's got a red star in the middle.
There's your answer. You're very welcome.
>>76830748
>I bet Western history rarely mentions who founded most German cities in all of Eastern and most of Central Germany.
The better question is, can you say who were the founders/rulers of most slavic countries? Ever heard of Rurik? Slavs were illiterate, tribal barbarians with no real social or political structure.
>>76840764
He is in hell with the catholics and jews now. Genscher will be there soon too.
