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Is 4chan a counter-culture because....?
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a)It's losers being edgy just doing the opposite of what is popular
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b)It's people who come to an anonymous website to express their true political opinions when they disagree with mainstream political ideologies
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>>76732935

Why not both?
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>>76732935

4chan has always been counter culture.

We happen to be Right Wing because in this universe (The Onion universe) the insane Marxist leftists are the establishment.

To answer your question correctly.

First A, then B.
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Bunch of basement dwelling 40 year old virgins trying to be edgy because society doesn't accept them for being greasy neckbeard neets.
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i mostly come here to troll and look at triggered people going nuts
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>>76733234
I was originally a, then I left because I lost my edge and now I'm back so I can express my dislike for Islam anonymously.
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>>76733276
>>40 year old

nah most people here are in their early to mid 20s
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I'm here as I find the place a rather bracing, Janus-faced outcropping of this 'alt-right' movement of which I'm so proud to consider myself a part. "GTKRWN", eh lads? ;^)
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>>76732935
A is just a juvenile version of B.
Obviously there are people that don't grow out of A, but they're close enough to confuse.
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>>76732935

>implying anything we say actually matters.
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>>76732935
Almost entirely A, though they try to convince themselves that they're B.
Out of a random 10 anon sample, you would be hard pressed to find 1 among them able to present anything resembling a coherent argument in support of the edgy contrarian shit they spew. Most are /r9k/ and /v/ crossposters upset that "SJWs" are infiltrating their favorite man-child hobby. The rest are reditors here to shill during election season.
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>>76733234
Speak for yourself, my political compass was somewhat left, but I mostly agree with /pol/
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>>76734153
I'm definitely b. I've had "alt right" views since the mid 2000's and have had nobody to discuss them with except close family and like 2 friends.
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>>76732935

used to be A

tumblr going mainstream turned it into B
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>>76732935
Hard column a
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>>76732935
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Its just relatively young people saying whatever they want in the form closest to honest dialog possible in the 21st century.

>>76734555
is an example.
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I might be one of the few people who only go on 4chan to interact with people, I have two friends in real life and they are my only exposure to the world, which isn't saying much. I don't use Facebook or Twitter, nothing. So for all I know, people here aren't being contrarian at all.
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>>76732935
>a)=/b/
>b)=/pol/ (probably a bit of a too)
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>>76732935

c) the world is going to hell while almost everyone pretends there is no alternative.
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>>76732935
What was new and liberating in the 1960's to our parents has become our oppression.
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Both
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>>76732935
or
c)BECAUSE WE ARE THE SERVANTS OF KEK HERE TO CARRY OUT HIS WILL
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Both types of people are here. Lots of people who just want to call people niggers, kikes, and faggots because they can here. Though there are also a lot of people that cannot publicly display their opinions without getting ostracized.
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>>76734833
>meme posting
>honest dialog
You don't actually believe that, do you?
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>>76732935
>nu-4chan/edgy reddit
>counterculture

Not really. /pol/, /r9k/, and /g/ were countercultures up until about 2 years ago. Some of the posters still are members of a "counterculture", but most are not. Most came here from reddit or came for the jokes afters hearing about the site(not mutually exclusive).

Supporting Trump is not a counterculture. It is very likely Trump will win. Supporting him is normal, even if there are people who violently reject him. Not liking immigrants isn't a counter-culture. That belief is held by many, even if it isn't the majority.

The browsers who belong to "b" have mostly all left for other sites, because their views are no longer accepted here. Post in a trump thread about how all jews/blacks are subhuman. Look at how Milo threads are accepted here. No one here actually supports National Socialism anymore because socialism isn't conservative. How many Libertarian posters are here? Look at all the Windows 10 shilling on /g/. Compare modern /r9k/ to how it was even just a year ago.

Most people are here for the jokes or simply looking for a conservative website to browse.
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>>76733276
see post see leaf
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>>76735179
I agree /g/ has gone to complete shit and I haven't been there in about 2 years really. Before /pol/ I was on various conspiracy boards (lunatic outpost mainly)
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>>76735179
>Not liking immigrants isn't a counter-culture. That belief is held by many, even if it isn't the majority.
it's the majority. it's a suppressed fact, the nation is disenfranchised on the issue at this time, but it's almost definitely the majority.
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I'm here with a deckchair and popcorn to watch the shitshow... Only without the deckchair and popcorn.

Very very rarely, there's some breaking news but most news is resurrected from weeks, months or even years ago used to shoehorn a narrative that nobody from any normal walk of life gives the remotest shit about.
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>>76732935
It's a combination of both really
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>>76732935
i don't know about your shit, but the system of oppression in america is not and does not pass as "culture" thus speaking out against it in any way is not counter-culture.

to have politically incorrect opinions or not is related to culture and counter-culture, but it is not the same and not even an essential component in my view. "counter-culture" is simply "i don't want to be like everyone else," on a personal level, becoming a minority interest group.

that is far, far removed from the actual mechanisms in society that concern themselves with foreign policy and economic health.
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>>76732935

Yes.
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>>76732935
4chan isn't counter culture. it is culture. it's just culture with extremely lax moderation and little censorship beyond group think.

The reason /pol/ is much more conservative is because much of the /b/ crowd is now older and moved on to real lives, and because stormkiddies and le reddit came here and started taking the gasthejews.meme seriously because they can't get pussy yet.

That doesn't mean anything posted is any less true. /pol/ is usually right, just usually for the wrong reasons.
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>>76735153
People can use sarcasm and memes in real life. And 4chan isn't honest dialog, nothing is. However, 4chan isn't tied to your face, body, identity, friends, family, or social status. We're a bunch of fat ugly virgins who watch anime, so only our words have value.
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