Her Majesty Edition
OFFICIAL POLL TRACKER RESULTS:
>PHONE POLLS (LEAVE +3)
LEAVE 45%
REMAIN 42%
NOT SURE 13%
>ONLINE (LEAVE +4)
LEAVE 47%
REMAIN 43%
NOTE SURE 10%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36271589
>OFFICIAL ESSENTIAL BRIT/POL VIEWING
OFFICIAL ESSENTIAL BRIT/POL VIEWING
>OFFICIAL ESSENTIAL BRIT/POL VIEWING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
>UKIP POSTER SPOTTED IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE. HER MAJESTY CONFIRMED RED PILLED
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/570547/Queen-Ukip-Nigel-Farage-Buckingham-Palace-Elizabeth-II-Royal-family-London
>COMMIE CORBYN SABOTAGES REMAIN CAMPAIGN
A B S O L U T E - M A D M A N
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7189294/Remain-campaign-in-chaos-after-Jeremy-Corbyn-attacks-Project-Fear-and-dismisses-anti-Brexit-forecasts-as-hysterical-hype.html
>EU ON SUICIDE WATCH. ABANDON EU SUPERSTATE UTOPIAN DREAMS SAYS TUSK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36429331
>WE 1984 NOW. EU I.D CARDS WILL BE NEEDED TO SIGN UP TO FACEBOOK
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/02/former-commie-ec-commissioner-calls-people-log-onto-youtube-national-electronic-id/
>Angela Merkel says she hopes UK stays in EU - THIS WONT BACKFIRE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36436726
>NIGEL PUTS £1000 BET ON BREXIT AT 5/2
https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/738353996352618496
>Terrorists “Stockpiling Explosives In Europe,” Europol Official
http://i-hls.com/2016/05/terrorist-stockpiling-explosives-in-europe-europol-official/
>Tory election win over Nigel Farage could be 'void' due to expenses scandal, judge rules
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-election-win-over-nigel-farage-at-south-thanet-could-be-void-due-to-expenses-scandal-judge-says-a7060791.html
Fucking Karen
1st for Cymru/pol/
>>76675821
Karen a cute
>British Politics
Come one newfag. Be a little more creative.
Something like EU Edition or Junker on Sucide Watch.
Just being picky and a cunt.
>>76675989
It's fucking twenty to 2 mate, give him a break
What will his meme name be?
Reposting because people here don't like information which doesn't support their beliefs, rather than forming beliefs based on information
>>76674033
>The highest form of authority in the system is unelected so I'd like to see how you'd explain this.
see >>76673911 (You)
>There are millions of native britons who can't get work
because often they are unqualified or unwilling to do many of the jobs EU migrants take (such as city jobs in financial services, or as labourers on farms)
>The NHS increasingly overburdened
migrants make a net contribution, thereby providing more funding to the NHS and other public services via revenue collected through taxation. The generally younger age of EU migrants if anything means they most likely place a lower per capita strain on the NHS than the native population.
>millions being spent on just being a part of the EU
we make a net economic gain from being in the EU
>much of our native industry destroyed
UK industry failed because of poor quality products, bad productivity, and outsourcing to outside the EU.
The EU has actually protected domestic European industry (including that of the UK) far better than the UK would be able to alone. In fact many businesses inside the EU complain of over-protectionism in the EU if anything. Not to mention the industry that came to the UK because of our EU membership.
>We are slipping into another recession no matter what happens.
and why is that?
>>76674338
>National parliaments are consulted before the commission proposes legislation
Well I'm off to bed
I'm going to listen to Jonathan Bowden as I fall asleep
Topic for the thread:
What punishment should Izzard face once the coming Empire is established?
>>76676081
the unbarragable farage
>>76676081
that was quick
>>76675867
Anglesey looks like a firefighter pointing at something
>>76675738
>EU I.D CARDS WILL BE NEEDED TO SIGN UP TO FACEBOOK
Zuckerberg you know better than to bend the knee to Merkel
The rift won't save you, Facebooks traffic is declining
>>76675989
mate I literally just copy pasted the entire thing because we were on page 10.
Also there's nothing wrong with 'british politics' and I don't see how using that title would make me a newfag.
>>76676084
>because often they are unqualified or unwilling to do many of the jobs EU migrants take
gr8 b8 m8.
now fucking kill yourself.
>>76676071
Can't complain, at least it's still a brit/pol/.
Some fag actually tried to start a Brexit General. Nothing will beat the Brit/pol/.
>>76676196
I mean that annoying faggot Eddie Izzard
Anyone got a link to the shut up part and the twat saying that Obama wants us to stay?
Nigel Farage is an irrational xenophobe racist and also a pond scum.
Prove me wrong; you can!
>>76675738
FUCK BRITAIN, FREE IRELAND!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzUCvyrOdM
>>76676401
Izzard in the Blizzard
>>76675867
YES BOYOS
>>76676178
Strapping him to a cannon to light and fire through his innards seems like an appropriate way to go.
>>76676330
No this is true, the number of people willing and qualified to work in financial services (literally no work life balance, totally cutthroat, high stress etc.), or just willing to work as farm labourers is very low among Brits. This is evidenced by the large numbers of Europeans working in both these sectors.
>>76676084
>>76674962
Not that guy, but
> jobs
> NHS burden
> EU membership fee
> industry
Why are people (on both sides) boiling things down to economics? Would you not rather be free pauper than a rich slave?
If there are jobs unfilled, whether neurosurgeon or pot-washer, let them remain unfilled. Importing a foreigner is literally saying 'filling the job is more important than a Briton's life'.
Migrants make a net contribution... to the feeling of displacement of Britons. If there are unfilled nurse jobs, let them be unfilled. Perhaps the NHS will see sense and put more money into training native Britons, who are just as biologically capable as anyone else.
The EU (or EEC, as it was) oversaw the complete destruction of shipbuilding and coal-mining in my city (you may guess where I'm from then), in preference for inferior European coal and ships.
> beliefs
That's exactly why I post this, and exactly why my vote will nullify yours.
>>76676383
Brit /pol/ is a brexit general in the same way BNP are nazis
They're technically not, but we all know really.
>>76675738
To give our nige some good material. If anyone brings up his migrant heritage i think he should kindly remind them that just becuas your foreign dosen't mean you can't be British.
>>76676572
remainers BTFO
>>76676503
A boring backwater that's achieved 0
>>76676572
>Would you not rather be free pauper than a rich slave?
This. Look at South Africa, they're so much worse off now economically than they were under apartheid, but do you think that black south africans care? No, because they're free now, even if that does mean they're free to make bad decisions, it's their decision.
>>76676320
Like I said I'm just being picky.
And why I said newfag, because no one posts that shit. It's normally followed with a satirical statement or edition.
Been here since the last general election and it's always.been like that. Though I'm not complaining too much, haven't been on in months and.brit/pol/ was almost gone.
Second reason I called you a newfag was.
>Brit/pol/
And
>British Politics
Is the same thing, might as well say Brit/pol/- Brit/pol/.
Anyway, I'm off now. Just schooling some.mewvies.
>>76676503
Not long got back from work. Trying to catch up on QT but dear lord, I'm 5 minutes in and I already want to give the cross dressing nonce a good hiding. Having a quick rage-break to have a look through this thread. How long will it take me to get through this episode?
>>76676572
>The EU (or EEC, as it was) oversaw the complete destruction of shipbuilding and coal-mining in my city (you may guess where I'm from then), in preference for inferior European coal and ships.
This. It's why I don't get why more of my fellow lefties don't support leaving. The EU is a capitalist colossus.
>>76676725
But what about guinness? And gypsys?
>>76676084
>because often they are unqualified or unwilling to do many of the jobs EU migrants take (such as city jobs in financial services, or as labourers on farms)
Yes, unqualified low skill jobs is precisely what I'm talking about you fucking retard. Jobs that anyone can do, that have been given away to EU migrants. It isn't the working class' fault that they are most likely going to end up with a skill set that qualifies them to work with their hands.
Can we stop this ridiculous "Wrok ethic is determined by birth location" babble please? Because if the same thing was said in reverse, that Poles and EU immigrants are lazy you'd rightfully call bullshit on it.
>migrants make a net contribution, thereby providing more funding to the NHS and other public services via revenue collected through taxation. The generally younger age of EU migrants if anything means they most likely place a lower per capita strain on the NHS than the native population.
Once again, "Muh GDP, muh Contributions". It's about population size you mong. Money doesn't fucking diagnose illness or create spaces in hospitals all by itself. All the people coming into the country aren't qualified Doctors or Surgeons. The NHS is understaffed, that is the main issue and more measly contributions from more migrants is not going to solve that problem. All about GDP and cold hard money with you fucking idiots.
>we make a net economic gain from being in the EU
An incredibly vague statement. Elaborate. What exactly are you referring to here? Are you omplying that simply by being a member of the EU we create revenue?
>>76676081
Eddie the feddie, the izzard who sucks junker's lizard
>>76676563
>financial services
>agricultural labour
two sectors. wew.
>>76676816
Don't worry, the audience feels the same way.
>>76676808
I think the Brit /pol/- British politics thing is a reference to the way 4chan boards are named like /pol/ politically incorrect
It's safe to say Eddie Izzard successfully staved off World War 3 tonight with his commendable, world saving inspirational performance on QT lads, and didn't come across as a deluded flailing tranny at all.
>>76676572
>Perhaps the NHS will see sense and put more money into training native Britons, who are just as biologically capable as anyone else.
This is the real problem with freedom of movement. Why bother training native Britons when you can just get a foreigner? The skills shortage issue needs to be addressed.
American here that fully supports Nigel and the UK reestablishing independence. God Speed, brothers. The nations of Europe will follow you. Show them the way.
>>76676829
anon you racist bigot cis scum! You forgot to mention that they thought only living on po-tatoss was a good idea!
>>76676816
Watching the audience jeer at that disgusting faggot gave me some pride desu
>>76676178
Watching repeated videos of his peak fame... in the late 90s.
>>76676150
FURRRRY
AND RACIAL PRIDE
AND VORTICIST POWWWWEEEAAARRRRRRRGGGHHH
night m8
>>76676654
My grandad was a German. My dad met my mum who's a Canadian, and her ancestry is from half the countries in Europe.
My culture though, is British. Always has been. Multiculturalism seeks to want to erode that sense of culture, place and identity we have here. I don't know if we can stop multiculturalism, but we can get off the conveyor belt that's heading straight towards it by leaving the EU. That's all I can do for now.
>>76676084
>UK industry failed because of poor quality products, bad productivity, and outsourcing to outside the EU.
>The EU has actually protected domestic European industry (including that of the UK) far better than the UK would be able to alone. In fact many businesses inside the EU complain of over-protectionism in the EU if anything. Not to mention the industry that came to the UK because of our EU membership.
So why were British fisherman asked to destroy their boats by the EU?
>>76676808
>Been here since the last general election
I've been here over 2 years mate.
I bet you don't even know about the great Brit/pol/ exodus to a different chan site.
>>76676254
> firefighter
Come on, lad. This is Brit/pol, don't use Americanisms.
>>76676961
Ahh, the potatoes thing is low hanging fruit
I'm under a duvet lads ask me anything
>>76677166
Are you /comfy/?
>>76677166
how much did it cost? and how many cum stains?
>>76675867
>>76676544
find a flaw
protip: you can't
>>76677166
How much are you sweating?
>>76677166
u better not be whacking your willie to ur karen
>>76676816
He gets fucking melted by the end mate. Even a based old lady starts giving him shit and he shuts the fuck up. You see the pure fear in his face when he realises he's lost the room.
>>76677276
FREE IRELAND, UP THE PROVOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5Nbp_gmgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2UMO6rZd4
Don't forget to vote, gentlemen. Regitsration has finished. But there are many floating voters and people who can't be bothered. You know what to do; persuasive argument and voter turnout.
Let's crash this EU shite mates.
Don't use the pencil they give you at the polling station. Take a black pen and use it. Fraud and vote rigging are inevitable. USE BLACK INK.
And get every one you know to vote. Do it for our country. This is much more important than a general election.
God save the Queen!
>>76677276
kekked.
>baiting this hard even with your flags on
>>76676084
>unwilling to do many of the jobs EU migrants take
The biggest myth ever, every fucking job migrants do today was getting done before we ever opened the gates the only difference was they got paid a sensible wage for it.
>tfw most of my mates are fiercely Remain or undecided siding more for Remain
>tfw my gf is Leave like me
>dad is Leave
>mum is undecided
wish there wasn't all this disagreement but oh well, democracy
>>76676936
If you find his appearance disgusting you are transphobic
>>76677203
Bit hot desu but I'll survive
>>76677230
Me mum bought it and uncountable, especially with liz teasing me
>>76677295
Not there yet, but give it a minute. The worst bit is trying to fap under it, gets me soaked
>>76677296
Karen is not for sexual, karen is for cuddles
>>76677276
All of our industries are fucked and south Wales is full of smackheads. Also I'd take having the English over the Scots any day
>>76677499
You are transphobiaphobic, shitlord.
>>76677478
Most fiercely remain voters are fucking idiots who haven't done the slightest bit of research
>>76677551
is this you?
>>76677499
I sure am.
Gas the fuggin trannies lads.
>>76676572
>Would you not rather be free pauper than a rich slave?
well we aren't slaves as members of the EU.
>Migrants make a net contribution... to the feeling of displacement of Britons.
you're right, we should base all international political decisions on feelings and other non quantifiable factors.
>If there are unfilled nurse jobs, let them be unfilled.
good idea, let people die, that'll show those bloody continentals
>Perhaps the NHS will see sense and put more money into training native Britons, who are just as biologically capable as anyone else.
There is a lack of people willing to be trained as nurses in this country.
>The EU (or EEC, as it was) oversaw the complete destruction of shipbuilding and coal-mining in my city (you may guess where I'm from then), in preference for inferior European coal and ships.
Shipbuilding is totally non viable pretty much everywhere outside of asia now, and leaving the EU won't change that. Likewise, coal mining just simply is not viable any longer in this country. Leaving the EU doesn't solve any of the issues you've raised.
>>76676841
Most farm labourers are eastern European though, and likewise Europeans have a strong presence in the city, these are facts. And many farmers will tell you that they won't see any Brits even applying for these jobs. How would you explain that?
>Money doesn't fucking diagnose illness or create spaces in hospitals all by itself. All the people coming into the country aren't qualified Doctors or Surgeons.
no, but the money pays (or at least should) for the facilities and people that do those things.
>The NHS is understaffed, that is the main issue and more measly contributions from more migrants is not going to solve that problem.
If there is more revenue generated from taxation, then more money can be spent on the NHS, allowing the hiring of more staff.
>What exactly are you referring to here?
Toyota, Honda Nissan; here because we're in the EU, among others.
>>76677605
sounds like my mates. idealists and hippies
>>76677478
>>tfw most of my mates are fiercely Remain
uni students aye?
>>76677499
>transphobic
he's not even a tranny, he's just a crossdresser. He hasn't taken hormones or gotten his cock chopped off
lol im american and like memes ask me anything or ill just talk about myself
>>76677478
>>tfw my gf is Leave like me
>tfw no gf to vote leave with
>tfw will never get laid
>>76677478
Gang up on your mum with your dad and make sure she votes leave, make sure not to remind your friends about the referendum. With any luck they'll forget.
>>76677655
Foetus position > caterpillar position tbqh
>>76677777
Nice
>>76677499
What's actually going on with him? He a tranny or he just dresses as a woman?
He's very masculine in a lot of regards.
>>76677777
That's some nice digits you got your self.
>>76677777
Come over here and steal our fucking pents fucking foreigners
>find a flaw
it's not america and is therefore irrelevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nECtWsah2po
I heard this song play every time Eddie opened his gob tonight.
>>76677789
>tfw your gf votes leave on the relationship referendum
>>76676572
>If there are jobs unfilled, whether neurosurgeon or pot-washer, let them remain unfilled.
or, people could actually offer apprenticeships. british business want to import people already qualified because it's cheaper than actually offering training. and being cunts, a group like the CIB will say that brits are lazy workers, when really they want to cut cost and don't give a fuck about britain.
>>76677882
He's a transvestite.
He's actually a good looking bloke normally but unfortunatly his mental problems get the better of him and he ends up looking like he does.
>>76677693
>>76677715
Get some stats going
Won over all my northerner mates by showing them how the EU is basically fucking everyone they know the hardest. Basically nobody realises that the EU has introduced laws to directly fuck the British only, like the common fisheries law
This is how these cunts win, obscure public information in a sea of irrelevancy
>>76677974
I've found a flaw in your ability to reply to posts.
How was QT and TW tonight lads? Anything worth catching up on?
>>76677994
>told her I wouldn't let her have my children if she voted remain
Literally keep hearing from Remainers "but The EU has protected Europe from the atrocities that occurred in the last century."
NO that's NATO you fucking idiot
EU has literally existed since 1992/3 since Maastricht, before that it was the EEC purely based around commerce etc and we've all seen how the EU has chanced since the early 90's.
I swear to fucking god one more person who says EU stops war in Europe is getting a fucking smack, fucking idiots
tl;dr muh world wars
>>76677952
Kek confirms that UKIP is right.
>>76678044
Pic related is a summary of QT.
>>76677564
>re-attatched london as an escape from new york style high security island since it's most of our economy anyway
>turned south wales into a buffer zone
find a flaw now motherfucker
>>76675738
I have nothing useful to contribute, but good luck with Brexit. You might be monarchist scum, but you deserve to be sovereign monarchist scum. Besides, Canada is shit and France is hopeless, so you are probably the best friend we have got.
Soon it'll be two world wars, one world cup and one referendum
>>76677002
Good to hear anon, you shouldn't just let a past that you were never part of change how you feel.
A culture develops when a group is isolated enough to begin to identify itself as differen't.
And i and many other anons i'm sure would like our nation to move foward knowing who and what they stand for.
>>76678092
The world wars are what keeps countries from fighting, not Europe
Especially that invention that came at the end of the war
>>76677777
Kek is with us, lads.
>>76678092
>NATO
you're welcome m8
>>76678044
I'll sum it up in a haiku
>Degenerate's shouts
>"we are being invaded"
>Are nige says: Vote leave/
>>76678092
Reply to that and ask what the league of nations did to stop WW2
Anyone notice the vast majority of cunts and minorities are for remain?
>>76678146
Fair play just need to make sure that London is no longer infested with mudslimes
>>76677276
Ble mae Cymru?
Dwi ddim yn hoffi y map hwn.
>BSE made a big play out of “nine out of ten economists” apparently warning against Brexit this week. The figure was based on a self-selecting Ipsos MORI survey of economists from the Royal Economic Society and the Society of Business Economists. But BSE had some fun with the figures…
>The survey was sent out to 3,818 economists. Only 639 (or 16.7%) replied, of which 561 said Brexit would be bad for the economy. That’s just 14.7% of the total number of economists contacted. So rather than nine out of ten economists warning against Brexit, it was actually closer one in seven. Not that you’d know that from their cheeky statistics trickery…
Not sure how reliable the source is
http://order-order.com/2016/06/09/only-14-7-of-economists-oppose-brexit/
>>76678235
Beautiful
>>76678015
>Eddie had the gall to tell Nigel that his parents would be turning in their graves while dressed like that
>>76677499
WHAT'S WRONG WITH TRANSPHOBIA?
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT SITTING NEXT TO A TRANSPHOBIC WOMAN?
>>76677690
>Toyota, Honda Nissan; here because we're in the EU, among others.
bollocks. I remember all of these companies saying they'd leave if we didn't join the Eurozone and look what happened. It's typical fear-mongering from the business elite. Trying to scare the voter into making life easier on them.
>If there is more revenue generated from taxation, then more money can be spent on the NHS, allowing the hiring of more staff.
How are you going to increase the revenue from tax when there are literally no jobs you dunce? When I say literally no jobs I mean it too. There are more unemployed people in this country now than there are open job spaces. We simply do not need more waves of random people coming into this country at this time. Nobody is advocating for no immigration. We want skilled immigrants.
>Most farm labourers are eastern European though, and likewise Europeans have a strong presence in the city, these are facts. And many farmers will tell you that they won't see any Brits even applying for these jobs. How would you explain that?
That's a single type of job that is probably not going to be sutible for your city dwelling brit who hasn't got the means to up and leave to the countryside. compared to a Pole who's just come to the country for the specific task of finding a job. Not a very good argument m8.
As for the ones who work in the city doing jobs that require qualifications. There's no issue there. That's who we want.
>>76677690
>And many farmers will tell you that they won't see any Brits even applying for these jobs. How would you explain that?
Low wages that only migrants can afford to work for.
I KNEW IT AT ALL ALONG
>>76678092
It's Nato and nukes stopping war tbqh. No one can start shit with us because of a thing called trident.
>>76678519
Is Michael leave or remain?
>>76678323
i found the perfect solution
we surgically remove a piece of poland with plenty of angry slavs and hook it up to london like a blood transfusion bag hooked up to someone with cancer
Lads can someone help me out?
Looking for the video in which an econ professor gives all the benefits of leaving the EU to the head of the UK's foreign security council and a few others
>>76678284
>Reply to that and ask what the league of nations did to stop WW2
Yes, same can be said about WW1 and the 2 superblocs of power that were created acting as eachothers deterrent
We're literally heading that way again, NATO/EU Vs China/Russia
History never repeats itself but it sure fucking rhymes with itself
>>76678655
I think it's nukes most predominantly, but NATO means that countries without nukes are free from the threat of invasion without having to develop expensive nuclear weapons programs.
>>76678702
LEAVE you pleb, he's been nigel-tier for years
What if Nige's *pulls out British passport and waves it* gimmick wins the referendum for him?
>>76678749
why is ireland there
>>76678339
dere ma boy bach
>>76678753
And another point is why would Russia even want to fuck with us? We're alreayd allied to USA and every commonwealth country (all outside the EU aswell). Actually leaving the EU means we'd be safer becuase we wouldn't necessarily be dragged into EU wars, we could choose to join or not and wouldn't be a target by default.
>>76678849
Look at this passport, every time he does it makes me laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0DU4DoPP4
>>76678923
lebensraum
>>76678820
Well yeah, being in NATO means most of Europe is within the nuclear umbrella provided by the UK/France and the US. It's fucking retarded to suggest WW3 could happen without the EU.
>>76678845
Nice one, I always liked him but I only watch his train stuff and I didn't know much about him outside of that. Assumed he'd be leave because he seems like a gentleman.
>>76677690
1. We're certainly not as 'free' as we once were. British democracy has been copied around the world and we were very good at it, especially Common Law. This Common Law can now not act unilaterally, that is undoubtedly 'not free' and in servitude to Europe, so yes a 'slave' to Continental Roman Law.
Political decision should equally not be borne solely on financial matters either. Allowing British people to suffer just so that 'jobs can be filled' is dehumanising capitalism at its worst. What have we cultivated this nation for, if not to care for its own people? We did not fight a millennium of wars to care for the French, Germans, or Turks; we fought to take care of the needs and wants of Britons.
People will not die, due to a minor shortage of nurses or doctors; we ran the NHS before the EU, and rather well too, doctors and politicians here can just as well deal with hiring and training native Britons in time.
There is also a severe lack of teachers (which I am). There is no lack of will - it is a rather 'noble' profession, as is doctoring/nursing. The lack of teachers/doctors/nurses is down to the shit pay and conditions.
*Why* is shipbuilding and coal-mining unviable? Why is the creation of something, from a literal hole in the ground into tangible value, every unprofitable? Because politicians/economists make it so. There are primary wealth creation industries and are never, ever fundamentally unviable. Your argument is totally flawed here.
>>76676877
Those are massive sectors, and between those two and construction, and to a lesser extent care, those are pretty much the sectors EU migrants work in.
>>76677462
As our economy was years and years ago, yes. But as it has grown and recessed, and the composition of our economy changed, in particular in relation to demand, supply, cost and competition, that is how it stands today. We can't just go back in time, nor can we conjure up over a decade of economic hypotheticals looking to the past.
>>76678013
>british business want to import people already qualified because it's cheaper than actually offering training.
so we should drive up costs for businesses and make Britain struggle to be internationally competitive? If educated people are leaving other countries and coming here, that's in Britain's interests.
>>76678092
Yeah all the non-arguments on both sides are just hilarious desu, especially when there are valid ones on both sides being ignored.
>>76678359
You don't need economists to tell you Brexit is bad for the economy; everything else aside, if we leave, there will be uncertainty. Most investors (domestic at least, I couldn't offer educated comment on foreign) don't like uncertainty, and as such will invest less for the 2 or so years following a Brexit while trade deals are negotiated and things are still up in the air. This will in turn weaken our economy, and as such our position when negotiating trade agreements, over those 2 years, in turn again weakening the economy going forwards beyond that.
>>76678448
>It's typical fear-mongering from the business elite.
The eurozone was never as critical, if at all integral I would imagine, to their business model as single market access. To leave the single market is to doom the long term security of those jobs. I mean shit, they only built factories in the UK because of single market access in the first place.
Post too long, I'll continue in a 2nd.
>>76678849
>we leave
>on his first appearance, he reveals his new UK passport, after which he burns the EU one live on TV
>>76677276
REMAIN KEKS STUMPED BY BASED BLACK BONG
http://youtu.be/0gHLfMXb0Yg
>>76675738
Are there really English people stupid enough to give up their sovereignty?
Once it's given way it's gone for good.
>>76678749
Peidiwch â tynnu Cymru.
Nid ydym yn achosi unrhyw broblemau.
Rhoi Cymru ar y map. Mae llawer ohonom yn pleidleisio UKIP.
Why did you remove Wales?
>>76679138
>the composition of our economy changed, in particular in relation to demand, supply,
So you admit oversupply of cheap migrant labour has driven wages through the floor?
>>76679224
I like how he's so loud and passionate, say what you want about black folk but they sure are good at being loud and passionate.
>>76678092
>I swear to fucking god one more person who says EU stops war in Europe
Of course it stops war, it's an empire. A Europe under Nazi Germany wouldn't have had wars with itself either. Yet you don't hear many people arguing that Nazi Germany would have stopped war in Europe
>>76678750
anyone?
Where can I see the video of Nigel stumping the tranny
>>76679138
> so we should drive up costs for businesses and make Britain struggle to be internationally competitive? If educated people are leaving other countries and coming here, that's in Britain's interests.
Try to answer that without invoking one economic argument. SO FUCK if it costs more, the benefit is your looking after a British person.
>>76679329
take a closer look, lad
>>76678820
>NATO means that countries without nukes are free from the threat of invasion without having to develop expensive nuclear weapons programs.
Pretty much, Netherlands and Belgium etc don't have their own nukes but are NATO members, who have NATO nukes stationed there, if Germany wanted to get funny again NATO would step in.
If a NATO member attacks another NATO member NATO step in, if a Non-NATO member attacks a NATO member all of NATO steps in, if needed
The downside to that nuclear security/stationing is the Russians etc make your country a higher priority in the event of war
>>76679433
>>76678750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKEUT1TiLU
This?
>>76678316
Women are more prone to emotional manipulation and will trade freedom for security
>post yfw we vote leave
(new nigel pic lads, highly memeable)
>>76679426
What about the HRE before the diet reforms that disallowed wars between member states?
>>76677276
b-but where will we film dr who?
>>76679329
Fy mrodyr, mae Cymru ddal yna. Edrych ar y fap. Mae LLOEGR wedi mynd. Mae Cymru wedi caei ei stretcho i fod yr prif gwlad o Prydain
>>76679612
>H
>R
>E
>>76679138
>The eurozone was never as critical, if at all integral I would imagine, to their business model as single market access. To leave the single market is to doom the long term security of those jobs. I mean shit, they only built factories in the UK because of single market access in the first place.
Do you really think a few tariffs are going to cause them to abandon their business in the UK? The EU probably would do everything they could to prevent anything like that from happening anyway, including giving us an exceptionally good trade deal to keep those companies based in Britain. In the event of a Brexit we'd become Europe's biggest trading partner immediately, they'd need us to survive.
It's honestly going to be so funny if Brexit happens and all this "We'll just be like Norway" nonsense gets blown the fuck out.
An independent UK would have more control on the EU than the EU would have over it.
absolutely fucking apex jej
>>76679612
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
voltaire.jpg
Seriously though the HRE was never truly a unified state in the modern sense, it was a leftover of feudalism that decentralised and lost influence over time. The thing Napoleon abolished was powerless.
>>76679419
Blacks are less PC than white Brits are for the most part, it's only the female biracial uni students that go full retard
They don't like being patronised to by fags who are scared of being racist
>>76679575
Thats the one lad, thanks a lot
>>76679730
Missed the second half, what happened in it? First was mostly cunts screaming about bullshit and Sturgeon spouting bullshit about MUH TORIES.
>>76679006
>And another point is why would Russia even want to fuck with us?
I honstly don't think they do; sure Russia want power/money as much as the next man, but we all know who the antagonists of world peace have been the past few decades NATO?America and EU, with all due respect I think Russia is one of the sanest countries out there.
Russia have every right to feel threatened and act accordingly
>>76679705
>that beautiful German flag
Hohenzollerns forever. Habsburgs never.
>>76679602
>>76679602
i need to expand my nigel collection
>>76679300
>English people
This referendum is for the whole of UK not just the English.
England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales. We all get to vote.
Nid yw'r Saesneg yn deall yr iaith hon.
Ond maen nhw'n iawn. Mae'r bleidlais yn bwysig iawn.
Mae'n gyfle i adael yr UE.
>>76679938
>Russia have every right to feel threatened and act accordingly
True, which is an other reaosn we should leave the EU. They are one of the main antagonists against Russia with trying to expand and include more of eastern europe, along with NATO.
And Russia's interest lie almost entirely in the middle east and around their borders. We are pretty much off the radar for them as far as their ambitions are concerned.
>>76679224
that look he made when he tried to smerk at his comment then realised that would make him an evil racist.
2.50
looks like he's about to have a mental break down.
>>76680039
Every time I see that bit with crying Cameron as the dog I fucking crack up
>>76679938
Russia seems to be mostly prickly isolationist cunts who are bitter about everything despite themselves being the cause of their misery.
But that doesn't translate to some sort of license to poke them and get arsey with them.
As far as we concerned, they're just another country, not this axis of evil that Juncker wants to fight.
>>76680039
I bet your surname is Owens or Jones :^)
![_73499954_crimea[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/mFGs3ri.gif "_73499954_crimea[1].gif")
>My face when people say the EU stops war and brings stability to the region
>>76680039
We all know the Scots are going to vote remain in huge numbers though
>Eddie Izzard without makeup
>>76679138 cont.
>>76678448
>How are you going to increase the revenue from tax when there are literally no jobs you dunce?
the employment rate has been going up consistently since late 2011.
>That's a single type of job that is probably not going to be sutible for your city dwelling brit who hasn't got the means to up and leave to the countryside.
and it's also one of the biggest employers of eastern europeans; hence, it is not taking jobs that would otherwise have been taken by Brit citizens. That also links on nicely to the fact that, as you say, geographical unemployment is also a reason why there are many employed e. euros vs brits; again, not "taking" jobs.
>As for the ones who work in the city doing jobs that require qualifications. There's no issue there. That's who we want.
and they wouldn't be here if it weren't for the EU; it's no coincidence that the growth of the city and the no. of Euro city workers has gone up significantly since we joined the EU. Not to mention the impact leaving the EU would have on the city.
>>76678511
>Low wages that only migrants can afford to work for.
in that case, why is a migrant coming over and doing such a job a problem then? Also this exposes issues with govt. social support policy and efficiency more than anything, but that's another argument about domestic politics for another day!
>>76679115
>Political decision should equally not be borne solely on financial matters either.
I agree, but disagree; matters of finance and economy dictate so strongly on social factors, that to not place it as the primary concern is not just to place finance itself as such, but all issues. More money would mean more to spend on the people and public services of Britain.
>People will not die, due to a minor shortage of nurses or doctors
they will, and have. Cancer in particular, something I've witnessed first hand with a family member. Stats support this too. Not just in UK, but globally as well.
post too long again! will cont.
>>76680239
It's actually owen jones, he took the redpill after visiting brit/pol/
L A D S . S E R I O U S L Y
How do we know when polls are coming out? I can't handle this pent up anxiety
Is there actually any chance that the majority of Britain will vote to leave?
>>76680239
my best mates have the last names:
>Williams
>Jones
>Roberts
>Williams
>Williams
it's madly uncreative up here
>tfw got a Kraut last name
>>76680299
>in that case, why is a migrant coming over and doing such a job a problem then?
Because without them driving down wages, greedy cunts would have to actually pay a living wage
>>76680039
If you boys would stop insisting on calling yourselves Welsh and Scottish and not British maybe the Americans wouldn't be so fucking confused about who they're talking to
>>76680291
waht the fuk
>>76680400
What's your last name mate? Mine is saxon as fuck.
Someone make a thread about this, I cant be holed.
>moslem aggression against brave england boys on first friday of ramadan in Marsaille
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/euro-2016-violent-start-england-8153611
Even the tabloid cant spin it that it was the England fans fault, they were attacked while tanked up by coward mudbloods. This is a category 3 happening at least. Huge ramifications for Brexit too
>>76680446
doxxable info 2bh la
>>76680336
God Owen Jones is so fuckable and cute but then he opens his mouth
>>76680415
>british
t. nigel ahmedmuhammad
>>76680392
Yes, the chance of leaving is currently higher than that of staying.
>>76680039
Wish I had some secret language to speak with nobody but my own people
Instead I've got literally the opposite, a the most widely used language on the entire planet.
>>76680392
nice OC senpai. I'm cautiously optimistic, it's looking good for leave, but it's pretty close as the thinking is undecided voters will shift to the status quo despot the polls putting us ahead.
can yall give me your dankest brexit memes i only have a few
>>76680570
We don't have to bother learning some gay language to speak with others, all those cucks have to learn ours
>>76680523
Yes, I'm sure no one in the UK shares your second name.
Mine is wilkes, there's a land named after me in antarctica.
>>76680570
Latin. The patrician's choice.
Although technically, most actual patricians spoke Greek.
>>76677994
I'll never know those feels but have a Wojak anyway
>>76680570
I wish we had a secret language too mate. Sometimes I just want to speak english not fucking worldish.
>>76680039
>implying anyone speaks that sheep latin
>>76677994
Better off without, mate. Women are cancer.
>>76680230
>Russia seems to be mostly prickly isolationist cunts who are bitter about everything despite themselves being the cause of their misery.
Yeah that's probably true, I guess the Russian heirachy still think their way is the best way,
Things were taking a turn for the better after Reagan/Gorbachev and the fall of the USSR but lately there has been another Russian/American/EU rift and have become more isolationist again and things have taken a step back, pretty much due to NATO poking its nose into the Middle east, trying to remove one of Russias few allies and Ukraine sanctions etc.
And so the cycle continues
>>76680738
>>76680788
>most actual patricians spoke Greek.
You're fucking me, seriously? I thought Greeks were basically slaves in the Roman empire?
>>76680738
>>76680738
>>76680299
>the employment rate has been going up consistently since late 2011.
How does that disprove what I said at all? I said that there were more unemployed people than there were jobs. A small increase in employment does not disprove that.
>and it's also one of the biggest employers of eastern europeans; hence, it is not taking jobs that would otherwise have been taken by Brit citizens. That also links on nicely to the fact that, as you say, geographical unemployment is also a reason why there are many employed e. euros vs brits; again, not "taking" jobs.
Just because a lot of EU migrants find work in that area, that does not mean that that's where most of them end up. Say 100% of farm workers were Poles, and there are 2,000 of them at any one time. But then 50% are Bricklayers and there's 8,000 of them at any given time. There would be more Poles working as bricklayers, in an area that would usually be the bread and butter of Working Class Britons "Taking their jobs" so to speak.
>in that case, why is a migrant coming over and doing such a job a problem then? Also this exposes issues with govt. social support policy and efficiency more than anything, but that's another argument about domestic politics for another day!
Because jobs in the city require a certain skillset that can't be achieved by any man off the street like a building job can be. If people are doing work in skilled fields then we don't care where they come from.
Am I to understand you have a dog in this fight? Are you a migrant or the son of a migrant by any chance?
Yr Saeson druan...ddwi'n teimlo dros nhw
>>76679224
What a champ
>>76680921
No, Greece was basically the only other civilisation Rome had respect for.
both Greek and Latin language and culture fell under the single banner of "Roman". Just like English and Scottish fall under "British".
This is why it's retarded when people say the Byzantines weren't Roman because they were Greek.
gonna move to Scotland soon ,lads
>>76675738
>>76676081
>>76676547
Can someone please link me to full video of the Question Time all these fresh memes are springing from? I was working during the livestream
>>76680921
Rome invaded Greece, yes, but more out of a kind of 'I love you so much, I want to bite you' kind of thing.
Rome had a massive knob on for Greece, and had them for teachers of their children, and loved their language, as they thought the Greeks were the most cultured in the world.
Kind of like how Europe loves Britain *too* much, and Britons suffers.
>>76681225
You might actually get rickets
>>76680299
>>Low wages that only migrants can afford to work for.
>in that case, why is a migrant coming over and doing such a job a problem then?
just ignore that there is a lack of work available for people in britain to live on.
>>76679699
Mae'r bleidlais yn bwysig iawn. Mae'n penderfynu ein dyfodol.
Mae fy merch yn awr yn ddeunaw a all bleidleisio. Rwy'n ceisio i adael iddi wneud ei ddewis heb unrhyw ddylanwad oddi wrthyf. Ond mae hi'n gwybod fy marn i.
She will probably vote to remain. As long as she uses her right to vote, then that's ok with me. She's excited about voting and asks me how to do it. I just tell her to read the question and place a cross next to her choice.
Where in Wales are you? Anglesey here.
Rwy'n gobeithio y maent yn 'gadael' enillion bleidlais.
>>76680896
>>76680925
>>76680927
thanks lads.
also the nottinghamshire flag is amazing, i've always been jealous.
>>76681225
Well, they do love refugees
>>76681223
>>76681296
That's really interesting, thanks. It's a travesty kids are forced to learn about the holocaust for 8 years instead of fascinating subjects like the ancient Romans.
Eternal reminder that she was right all along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVt_1ByddUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TPpuIslzG4
>>76681225
You'll find it more defended than the Falklands, the natives will be hard to conquer.
>>76680788
>latin
>>76681223
>>76681296
Basically this is what's gonna happen to white people once China takes over
>>76679115
continued from my other post.
>we ran the NHS before the EU, and rather well too
I'm not going to get into a discussion about healthcare because it's a whole new kettle of fish and I'm off to bed soon, but to be brief; leaving the EU means less money, and so less money for the NHS, which is bad for healthcare.
>The lack of teachers/doctors/nurses is down to the shit pay and conditions.
exactly. In jobs with shit pay and conditions, brits are, in some cases, not willing to do them, whereas migrant workers are. A problem in itself, but migration is not the issue here, domestic govt attitudes and policy are.
>*Why* is shipbuilding and coal-mining unviable?
international competition, and in particular in coal the low levels of coal vs cost of extraction vs market value. On shipbuilding there are countries that can do it much, much cheaper and to the same or higher quality. We can't compete unless we start paying workers Chinese or Korean tier wages, which obviously isn't possible. Similar coal mining, but that's also impacted by as I say, resource availability and environmental factors as well.
>There are primary wealth creation industries and are never, ever fundamentally unviable.
Untrue. If someone can choose two high quality ships, one from the UK and one from Korea, but the Korean one is cheaper, no one sane will ever choose the UK ship. And as I say above, same with coal. We cannot compete internationally.
>>76679363
No. I'm not going to analyse the global economic changes over the last 15 or so years and how they impact the UK right now because my bed is calling, but no, it's way more than that, in particular the recession and the background regarding that.
>>76679479
Economic arguments all have social implications. If we have no money, that means no money to spend on healthcare or other public services. It's not the economic impact alone, it's the social impact it entails.
Fucking hell lads. Even r/ukpolitics is full brexit after that QT.
Inb4 >reddit
I use r/ukpolitics to see what the cucks are up too
>>76681440
M I S T E R J U N C K E R
>>76681483
> not giving yourself a British gentleman's education in Latin, Greek, and the massacre of lesser peoples
Get a load of this fucking pleb.
Pryd bydd yr SAES TRAGWYDDOL yn talu am ei troseddau?
>>76681665
Just like you use a secret webcam to see who your wife is banging you cuck
>>76681513
>In jobs with shit pay and conditions, brits are, in some cases, not willing to do them, whereas migrant workers are.
Wow, the migrants drive the wages to a level where Brits won't do the work then you accuse the brits of being lazy and unwilling.
Typical kike.
>>76679224
lmao, that lefty cuck and hippy lesbian
>>76681505
It already did happen in the past actually
>>76681462
You might find this of interest too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daqin
Da Qin. Ancient China and how they wanted to have sex with the Roman Empire after hearing tales about it.
>>76681858
gee bill, four flags?
>>76681835
I don't have a wife I'm a virgin
>>76681447
>>76681468
I wanna escape this shit world shithole
Sctoland is rural and comfy
>>76681820
STOP IT
>>76681770
are you actually learning that stuff though? can you actually speak it? what's actually the point?
>>76681223
They werent greek either
Anatolians and greeks
Why you germanics love the people that wanted exterminate you?
You even destroyed their empire and fucked their bloodline and now look at you, you even use latin in your organizations
Really pathetic
England prevails!
>>76681412
Yr ydw i'n ddeunaw fy hun, yr union oed a dy ferch. Rydw i am pledleisio i Gadael, ond ddwi'n gweld fod mae hyna yn barn amhoblogaidd yn yr grwp oedran ni
There's a lot of peer pressure and misinformation. I think a lot of youths have an idealised or romanticised view of the EU, as a progressive paradise and not a bureaucratic mess. One peer of mine totally dismissed the Brexit side as "right wing nonsense", and gushed over how Jeremy Corbyn wants us to stay. It's sad what the internet generation believes in.
I'm living on coastal Gwynedd, on Cardigan Bay. People my age who tend to be siding with me on Leave are people like me from families that own their own businesses, who come from families of employers and people who pay quite a bit of taxes and work hard, including my gf and one of my best friends
>>76681910
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daqin
That is interesitng. Wasn't there an empire between rome and china that would purposefully keep the chinese ignorant about the roman empire and sell the chinese their own silk saying it was roman?
Wishn I knew more about Rome.
>>76681513
>leaving the EU means less money, and so less money for the NHS, which is bad for healthcare.
With all due respect, Our NHS is already overstretched, our police stations/prisons are closing down, overstreched, our Libraries are closing down, civil services street cleaning, road servicing etc are cut back etc etc
And this is whilst were in the EU utopia, I fail to see how allowing uncontrolled migrancy into this country will help and it is uncontroled, Cameron already said on live TV "there is no forecast to the amount of immigrants expected here" he doesn't know or isn't willing to say.
OUT
Goodnight lads, let's home with have another good day for the campaign tomorrow
>>76679729
>Do you really think a few tariffs are going to cause them to abandon their business in the UK?
they've said so themselves
and also yes, even if they hadn't said so about leaving, tariffs are the reason they built them here to begin with.
>The EU probably would do everything they could to prevent anything like that from happening anyway
The EU would do everything it could to get them to relocate those jobs and that investment to operations in the EU, it would be in their interests to do so.
>The EU probably would do everything they could to prevent anything like that from happening anyway, including giving us an exceptionally good trade deal to keep those companies based in Britain. In the event of a Brexit we'd become Europe's biggest trading partner immediately, they'd need us to survive.
this is just speculation. Beyond being very confident that investor confidence and as such investment will take a hit immediately post brexit and in the following 2 years, I can't comment, especially with how much of that is dependent on domestic political factors in the member states, of which I have little understanding.
>>76680402
Simply raising wages doesn't solve anything, it only creates more issues.
>>76681052
>>76681363
>>76681851
>>76682300
sorry chaps but I'm off to bed now, didn't quite get round to you
until next time!
>>76682082
Because the Rennaisance and HRE happened and we realised that actually bumfucking around like tribal niggers is pretty shit compared to the glory of Rome.
Also, it might interest you to know that Wales was zealously loyal to its latin masters even in the Medieval period. The English were considered primitive nigger invaders and the Welsh saw themselves as the only true Britons.
LOL Britain doesn't even make laws for it's own country.
learn something from the Americans.
NO LEGISLATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
VOTE OUT YOU KEKS
>>76682050
I teach Latin and Greek. The 'point', if there ever should be a 'point' in bettering oneself, is the access to two millennia of thought and wisdom.
They're certainly more worthwhile than what passes for languages at school these days. I mean, 'Spanish'? Who the fuck actually speaks that nonsense?
who /preppingforracewar/ in here??
>>76681665
Check /r/BritishPolitics. So left they basically downvote any right wing opinion. Fucking goldmine for clueless leftists.
>>76682410
*Renaissance
what a pleb
Can we get a sum up of all the good shit that happened for Leave this week?
>Nigel beats Cameron
>Leave beats Remain on ITV debate
>Brexit dominates QT this week
>Dennis Skinner moves to Leave
>Some lib dem moves to Leave
>>76682467
Ah, so Falklands 2.0?
>>76682431
> learn from Americans
> it's
No thanks.
>>76679224
>this is one of the only countries in the world with 0-hour contracts
And she thinks this is a good thing?
>>76682300
So many remain arguments rely on pointing to EU unrelated problems and saying that they will happen if we leave the EU.
Its like on QT, Izzard was saying that eaving the EU would cause a recession and pointing to 2008 as an example. Well what did the EU do to stop the last recession? Fuck all.
He decried austerity whilst forgetting that the EU forced austerity on Greece.
>>76682440
>if there ever should be a 'point' in bettering oneself, is the access to two millennia of thought and wisdom.
Give me a good argument why I should care about this.
I understand it's important and valuable but I'd rather just wank or drink or play videogames
>>76681440
Will you Americans stop calling us 'cucks' when we crash the EU?
Or Ahmed and shit?
If it's just bants then OK, but a bit repetative.
You fuckers need to get a new insulting stereotype.
we love tea and have bad teeth, we all talk posh and eat crumpets and it's always raining, we are inbred island monkeys and love the Queen.
>>76682557
i stand WITH Britain
seriously.
i wanna kick some moslem ass
>>76682410
Charlemagne is responsible for civilising an entire race of people, basically.
>>76682050
G L A I N
L
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>>76682508
>JCB back Leave
>Neil destroyed Gideon
>John Mann comes out for Leave
>>76682557
top kek, fucking brilliant reply.
>argentina
>white
