Concealed carry is officially dead. I don't own a gun personally, but this is ridiculous.
>>76661266
It is? I just got off work and about to go to the grocery store carrying.
>>76661266
Yeah, no
according to what
>>76661266
i don't get how we can call ourselves democracies yet the policies and everything change without any input from the citizens aside from who they see on TV explaining it to them a month after it actually happens
this world is ill
>>76661413
>>76661505
>>76661583
It was something the 9th circuit ruled. Not sure if it applies everywhere though. Either way it's a blatant disregard of the constitution.
When I got my permit there was like 10 other people at the sheriff's office filling out the same ccw papers. At 10am...on a tuesday...in a rural as fuck area.
/thread
>>76661266
The 9th district court reaffirmed that states that do not issue CPL to their citizens can continue to do so (like LA county).
Those counties/states that still allow CPL to be issues are not at all affected.
Stupid fucking nigger
The only place it applies to is in California.
>>76661664
you're a fucking moron
>>76661266
>literally following laws to be able to put a gun in your pocket
>paying money for a license to put a gun in your pocket
Why do you even follow these shit laws?
I'm not pay for a fucking license to put my glock in my waistband
Come and take them, you fuckin faggots
>>76661664
I play by my own rules.
>>76661695
This makes me happy to hear..
>>76661831
You can either bite your pride and go through the ropes to getting your concealed carry.
OR, you can be a nigger and just carry it in your waistband, and the day that you get pulled over/frisked will be a shitty one for you, because the police don't fuck around with unlicensed concealed carry niggerspics like yourself.
>hurr durr constitutional right
it is, but in a perfect world we wouldn't have these checks and balances on our rights. Too bad that perfect world is too far gone
>>76661266
yeah the government can blow me. i'll never turn them in.
>>76661266
At least you HAVE guns!
>>76661664
Ruling allows California to restrict carry of firearms outside the home to open-carry only.
Other states are not affected by California's laws.
It does open the door for other liberal states to pass open-carry only laws, however. Laws that will hold up in court.
It'll get fixed when Trump wins and selects a conservative.
>>76661266
>9th Circuit Decision
>SCOTUS hasn't even ruled on it yet
Learn how the fucking court system in this country works instead of just reading headlines and making a comment like some kind of Reddit scum.
>>76661266
>I don't own a gun personally
felon or underage detected, please kill yourself
Where do I need to live to own that?
>>76662459
>>76662591
It does set a dangerous precedent. That's how common law works.
>>76661266
>9th Circuit Court
i guess this is your first rodeo?
>>76662591
>Learn
this is /pol/
>>76661831
yea but you don't want to get fucked in the ass if you ever have to use it or cop happens to come across it
>>76661664
not a valid court decision, it will be overturned.
>The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts. A constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges, as a fundamental law. It therefore belongs to them to ascertain its meaning, as well as the meaning of any particular act proceeding from the legislative body. If there should happen to be an irreconcilable variance between the two, that which has the superior obligation and validity ought, of course, to be preferred; or, in other words, the Constitution ought to be preferred to the statute, the intention of the people to the intention of their agents.
>Nor does this conclusion by any means suppose a superiority of the judicial to the legislative power. It only supposes that the power of the people is superior to both; and that where the will of the legislature, declared in its statutes, stands in opposition to that of the people, declared in the Constitution, the judges ought to be governed by the latter rather than the former. They ought to regulate their decisions by the fundamental laws, rather than by those which are not fundamental.
>>76662229
Same here
>>76661266
>following the law
Lol as long as you're not a retarded nigger that attracts attention to yourself carrying isn't a problem.
>>76661266
This will just make more people Trump after they realize they are literally trying to take our guns away.
>>76662657
9th circuit is the most overturned appeals court in the US. This ruling has close to 0 relevance.
>>76662899
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>>76663016
Certainly hope so
>>76661266
Pity it wasn't a Houston court that made the ruling. I would have liked to see Texas finally purge that city
>>76662899
that tattooist has some skills.
Everyone knows the 9th Circuit is liberal af. Who didn't see this coming?
Thank God I don't live in the 9th Circuit. My circuit said conceal carry is constitutionally protected. I feel bad for the non-California states in the 9th Circuit. They basically get ruled over by a small group of liberal California judges, most of whom are Jews.
>>76661266
We need to ban kritarchy.
A kritarch is a judge who is also an arbitrary, unaccountable ruler, like in the Book of Judges in the Bible.
Judges exist to supervise the court and pass sentence, not to legislate.
BEAR MEANS CARRY, YOU FUCKING RETARDED LIBSHITS
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>76661664
I hope Trump disband the 9th circuit to be like based Andy Jackson.
>>76663365
learn the difference between de jure and de facto
>>76661266
Gunless faggot here.
What's the point of concealed carry?
>>76661266
No it isn't you fucking retard.
>>76663847
To shoot niggers who attack you
>>76661611
Republic, not a democracy
>>76663847
To defend yourself wherever you are.
>>76662399
Are you even american?
Do you really prefer to be carried by 6 rather than be judged by 12?
>>76661266
Why would anyone living in America not own a gun?
>>76663477
9th circuit is human garbage
went to law school here
>>76661664
The constitution is just a document. One that was intended to be re-written periodically by the people who wrote it.
One generation should not rule over another, they said. Fearing change to the constitution is un-american.
Only in California, dipfuck.
>>76663847
To keep guns legalized
>>76663365
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii
>>76661266
Why carry a gun, instead of flowers? Love trumps death.
>>76661832
This. Califaggot laws don't apply in freedom zones
Hilldog is already promising that the 2nd Amendment doesn't allow people to have guns.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/08/its-pretty-clear-clinton-does-not-think
>>76664349
Actually, the entire jurisdiction of the 9th circuit court, see >>76663307.
>>76664349
californian here
sucks not living in america
>>76664291
you're right
it was not intended to be changed by the whims of the supreme court, though, now was it, language obsfucator?
>>76661266
Wrong, nigger.
>>76663847
cause open carry is for sperg lords that just wanna show off their new purchase
>>76664633
>230 pounds
>>76662615
Canada, I shot one of those in the Edmonton super mall or w/e it's called in 2004 or some shit.
It's called like a .38 special STI.
>>76664562
>it was not intended to be changed by the whims of the supreme court, though, now was it, language obsfucator?
I don't think they stipulated who should do it, just that it should be torn down and re-written from the ground up at least once per century.
Why are you so afraid? You think you're the only one who's ever been robbed or mugged or held at gunpoint?
Stop being a pussy.
>>76664533
Also, the 9th circuit is fucking giant, easily larger than any other federal jurisdiction (save SCOTUS itself). It needs to be split in half.
>>76664147
So you can bring a concealed firearm in, say, a government building?
>>76665177
Depends on the state and the type of government building.
>>76664190
im not fucking advocating for against conceal carrying. Im telling that other poster to at the least follow the letter of the law when conceal carrying, because otherwise he'll have a lot of trouble down the line if/when the police frisk him and find a firearm in his waistband that he's legally not allowed to have there because hes in public and doesnt have his CPL license.
Id prefer to shoot my way out of trouble, and obviously be judged by 12. Nigga im on your side.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/appeals-court-no-2nd-amendment-right-concealed-carry
Check the comments:
"I disagree quite strongly with Heller. Scalia was pulling shit out of his ass on that one, in big, big ways to overturn centuries of precedent.
There is NO constitutional right to self protection. None. Its not mentioned or alluded to anywhere, including in the 2nd Amendment. And Scalia hung the entire decision on this nonexistent right.
He basically erased any mention of militias..which is the entire reasoning actually given in the text of the 2nd Amendment.
He rewrote the 2nd Amendment (while claiming to be strict constitutionalist and that the that Constitution is "Dead, dead, dead!") to suit some fantasy version he kept in his head, and in the process created brand new rights out of thin air.
EDIT: And btw, this case wouldn't include Heller,as even in Heller, Scalia quite clearly said that state can and should still regulate guns."
And we're supposed to believe the lie that a complete ban and confiscation is not the end goal? What a farce
>>76664861
he is 6'2, and he could be built pretty well.
but this is /pol/, and he's probably quite gelatinous.
![rgEESdP[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bycDtFn.jpg "rgEESdP[1].jpg")
>>76664633
The new Virginia cards are now plastic, no more lamination. Here's an example of the new cards.
questions for europeans:
what do you do when you live away from town and the police/ambulance is an hour away? can you at least have a shotgun?
>>76662813
If Hillary is elected president, the liberal justices will just affirm the ruling of the ninth circuit.
Currently, even if they split 4-4, the ruling would still be upheld.
It doesn't really what the Constitution says if the Supreme Court decides to interpret it in a way counter to the meaning.
I'm saying this as a person who things the ninth circuit's decision is a disgrace.
>>76666144
I'm pretty sure only brown people are entitled to self defense. Many eurocuck countries have strict storage rules, including the segregation of ammo.
>Gun in safe
>bolted to floor
>Cable/Trigger lock
>unloaded and ammo in separate and secure location (Exceptions in some countries)
>>76662615
-airsoft master piece.
Kek
Geta real gun
>>76662439
I second this. I can't carry anything! And if I use anything in picRelated, I will be most likely charged and jailed.
>>76661266
Get fucked California.
>>76663280
yeah, he's amazing. too bad hes stuck doing edgejobs
>>76664287
can you explain what circuits are?
>>76665867
You realize all the blacked out info is contained in that square Barcode thingy?
>>76666144
You can purchase rifles for hunting purposes.
>>76661832
>tfw Adam Putnam is in favor of OC
>>76665867
Still have the old one, homeboy. It'll get replaced when I renew.
>>76666961
But what if you are attacked by a person, not a bear.
>>76661831
And it's a good thing you don't, because reconstructive surgery on what is left of your already tiny cock isn't gonna be cheap.
>Tfw we have more freedom than Comiefornia.
>>76666549
Are Type-95s any good? Never seen anyone on chan have one of these.
>>76666827
They're courts which oversee an entire region's worth of Appeals courts. Their decisions are precedent for the entire region and can only be overturned by SCOTUS.
>>76666480
you're an idiot
>>76667297
I don't think we even have bears. They shoot at birds mostly.
Also if a hunting rifle works against a bear, surely it will work against a person.
>>76663847
Self Defense?
France are you ok?
>>76667382
those are fake guns dipshit
>>76667893
You can self defend just fine with open carry, can't you?
>>76668094
Yes, but open carry is somewhat more politically complicated thanks to the Black Panthers.
>>76668202
you mean fudds
>>76667642
He's not an idiot. The long-term progressive plan is for the government to dissolve the people and elect another. An ideal Zuckerbergstan of islands of luxury and tech surrounded by favelas of illiterate subhumans would have no trouble with a referendum or second Constitutional convention and complete rewrite. This is the danger which Trump answers.
>>76661266
Honestly I don't see the issue with not being able to conceal carry. Wouldn't you WANT people to know you have a gun on you so they won't fuck with you or anyone near you in the first place?
I know, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, and I'll support concealed carry if someone can explain it to me better. Is it because someone might grab the gun from you?
>>76668094
A lot of cucks still get triggered when they see a firearm. Concealing it allows social interactions to occur as they normally would.
Still gives you the ability to blast uppity scum when needed tho.
>>76668438
this has nothing to do with the incorrect statements he made
>>76668094
Kinda makes you a target as well.
>commiefornia
who cares lol
>>76661266
Why are liberals so enraged at legal gun owners?
I really don't get it
Someone's not going to apply for a CC permit just so they can sneak up on you and shoot you
>>76667893
I'm generally against gun ownership but I have once felt that I'd be better off with a gun. Say you angered some local gang, police can't watch your back 24/7 so a gun would be helpful. However if guns are legal then this gang is more likely to have guns so it doesn't end up helping. At the end of the day if nobody had a gun nobody would get shot.
>>76668622
Tfw don't need a license
>>76668505
So their argument basically is "if I don't see it, it doesnt exist" ?
That's weird because a concealed gun can shoot them in the face just as well as an open one.
>>76664968
oh they very much did say exactly who should do it.
legitimate changes to the constitution only occur through the act of congress. for these changes a super-majority of both the house and the senate must be achieved with a final veto belonging to the president of the United States.
If said president Veto's a law and the people still want it, then both parts of congress must pass it with a 3/4 majority in both (not total, literally both house and senate need at least 3/4 each). If this actually occurs the president is incapable of further vetoing the law and is obligated to enforce it.
>>76668737
The gang in questions likely has guns anyhow, and if not you can bet they have clubs, knifes, sticks, batons, pipes. and whatever else they can use.
Without a gun you are D-E-A-D FUCKED.
>>76662459
California effectively bans both open and concealed carry.
>>76668358
Not really. We first saw open carry get restricted in this country because everyone shit themselves when Huey Newton and company walked around the California State House with rifles on their shoulders.
>>76666838
All I got when I scanned it was the link to their website about getting a CCW permit.
https://www.loudoun.gov/index.aspx?nid=954
>>76669053
>Not really.
yes, really
>>76662229
edgy
why do americans insist on being edgy instead of just being civilized people without guns
>>76668094
In Denver county you can concealed carry if you have your license (easy as fuck to get in Colorado) but open carry is illegal.
>>76668737
If guns are illegal, this gang will still have guns. Because they're, you know, gangsters.
Look at Marseille. Guns are illegal as fuck, but you still have shootouts every other week.
>>76668851
Basically. Unless you grow up around guns or shoot yourself often times people associate them SOLELY with like school shootings and shit.
>>76661266
Great, so now criminals will know that normal people are unarmed
>>76668849
>that picture
>clearly a Texas state flag behind him
>>76668956
>>76669264
>Instead of trying harder to clamp down on illegal guns lets just give up and give everyone a gun
American logic
>>76668489
>Is it because someone might grab the gun from you?
Yes, there have been many instances where people open carrying have had their firearms stolen by armed thugs who want another gat, and have had the police over-react to a legal behavior, which happens frequently where I live because soccer moms just call 911 and say there is a madman wearing X,Y&Z pointing his gun at babies and school buses.
CC is great for everyday, I personally CC everywhere. Either a little subcompact like my Ruger LCP, sometimes a Glock 27, and in the colder months I will carry full size and compacts like a 1911, Glock 19, and Sig P320C. Doesn't matter if I am at work, shopping, or eating out, I have the piece of mind that my Wife and Kids can rely on me to defend their lives.
As for Open carry, I don't hate it, but I only ever OC when I am hunting, at the range or hiking. It has its place, but I prefer to keep it concealed.
>>76666507
Is this bad? It is how it is in Russia. I thought /pol/ likes based Russia.
>>76669188
Fudds went along with it, sure, but that wasn't the impetus that lead to all the gun laws in the 60s and 70s. It comes down to the Kennedy assassination and the Black Power movement scaring the shit out of people.
>>76669283
So they go and voluntarily surrender their rights to the people those very rights are supposed to protect them against?
That's quite a stretch.
>>76669622
>the point
>you
>>76669711
Yes it's bad. I have a loaded AR-15 sitting upright beside my bed. Russia's rules mean junkies can break into your home, kill you and then rape your daughter long before you can get your gun assembled and ready for use.
WA residents, go get your concealed pistol licenses. It's stupid easy as long as your record is clean. This State always follows California's lead when it comes to legislative faggotry.
>>76664968
They didn't intend for anyone to tear it down and rewrite it. Fuck off cancer.
"THESE RIGHTS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Hang yourself subversive piece of shit.
You should read this post because facts.
9th circuit ruled on a technicality.
>case was brought solely on the matter of concealed carry laws
>there's existing case law upholding concealed carry bans (from 1850 no less)
>the twist is that case law includes explicit open carry rights in the concealed weapon legislation
>since the case, as brought before the court only related to concealed carry they ignored the fact that open carry is illegal in California, and ruled that concealed carry restrictions are constitutional
They state as much in the majority opinion that their opinion in no way relates to the question of open carry via this direct quotation:
>We do not reach the question whether the Second Amendment protects some ability to carry firearms in public, such as open carry. That question was left open by the Supreme Court in Heller, and we have no need to answer it here.
>>76661266
That gun is Gucci as fuck got since sauce?
>>76661266
Is there a correlation between concealed carries and crime? Are conceal carries commit more crimes?
>>76669622
>Muslim cuts off head of British soldier in London
>British sheep walk by not knowing what to do when faced with a man with a KNIFE
>*chorus of BIN IT heard faintly in the distance*
>Takes 30+ minutes for the British police to muster their "Special Gun Unit"
>Proceed to ban insulting the prophet muhammad PBUH
You wouldn't know self-defense if it came in your ass you cuck.
>>76661266
Only applies to CA, idiot. News did a shit job.
>>76669622
The problem is that we're not clamping down on illegal guns. Chicago has had 246 people shot and killed and 1374 shootings so far this year. They've cleared barely 20% of those homicides and their clearance rate for shootings is in the low single digits. Despite this, if you get picked up as a felon with a gun in Chicago you're likely to get probation. Theres no serious attempt to crack down on straw purchasers. Theres no sweeps of known gang members looking for guns, no stings looking for sellers, we're not even frisking known gang bangers suspected of selling drugs anymore.
Everyone pisses and moans about gun crime, but we know where its happening, who is involved, and we don't do shit. Another law that isn't going to be enforced won't change that.
Oh and BTW continuing the theme of legislation. New law passed first reading in Russia. Ban of guns converted from "military type weapons". Means no more Saigas, Veprs, Tigers and Mosins for Russians. BASED. Do you feel Putin's love now?
>>76669933
>break into your home
But we live in apartment blocks behind steel door, often two steel doors.
>>76664291
Get that 2/3rds then. Stop legislating from the bench.
>>76670084
>60%
>>76664968
2/3rds faggot. Get them states!!!
>>76670456
there is no legislation
>>76664131
>>76661611
The call us a democracy too. One day everything is fine and you can have guns. Next morning wake up and some of the tightest restrictions on the planet. No vote, no say, lots of anti-gun propaganda. Feels like we will never get them back.
>>76670502
OI IM REPORTIN U FAH HATE SPEECH YA WANKA
Inshalladin
>>76670257
>Mosins
Why?
>>76670231
And if a similar suit happens in another circuit this opinion will be cited, your point?
American 4chan hours are just the fucking worst, all the threads are shit.
>>76669264
>every other week
>not daily due to the "rising way of the AK"
>>76668094
Sweet summer child
>>76670453
Ok, say your grandmother is approached on the way home from church by a drug addict who demands her phone and wallet.
>>76669204
Yeah, why do those pesky Americans insist on having basic freedoms such as the freedom to bear arms or freedom of speech instead of just giving it all up without a fight like us socialist people did?
>Concealed carry is officially dead
But anon, you could go to the supermarket two blocks away from my house and get your concealed carry permit this Saturday.
>>76670668
Did you register them? Did you give them over?
I've lived more than three decades in Chicago. We've had some pretty tough laws over the years. I never did tell anyone official what was in my closet, though, so it wasn't a problem.
>>76671001
Blame the shills. The catalog is shit right now. Correct the Record is here to slide any and all discussion.
But posting at like 3am-7am my time is fucking horrendous. For reference that's like 8 hours from now.
Yet I don't know why you posted this ITT.
>>76664291
That's the exact opposite of what a constitution is. It is a document intended to never be outright changed in only rarely amended so that the people of the nation have certain guarantees from the government about the what both people and the government can and cannot do.
>>76669622
>>76670240
Leftist gun control is not about results, it is about controlling the American populace, and making them dependent on the structures of the state for their every need. If they had any shred of real concern for reducing real gun violence, the National Guard would be called into Chicago until rule of law can be reestablished.
But that's not their goal, and it's not what you'll see. What you will see is constant attacks and erosion of the rights of the American people's self-determination.
It'll be over turned supreme court already ruled that it is a right, thus why chicago and dc were required to issue permits
>>76670888
Because it was not removed from Army inventory. Order was not issued , formally it is in the Russian Army inventory together with PPSH.
>military weapon
Dura lex, sed lex.
>>76671228
>Did you register them? Did you give them over?
Yes and yes, except I did hear that their buyback program had an extraordinarily shitty percentage of registered-to-returned ratio.
>>76670606
What did he mean by this?
>>76661806
Not an argument
>>76664291
Thats what constitution is for - to be never changed, a rock-solid set of rights, no matter who gets to rule. Otherwise it would be just a regular law.
>>76662399
Or you can be a cracker and carry w. no permit but use a holster.
In my state, Virginia, illegal CCW is a misdemeanor. You'd get a small fine and probation (second time is a felony, so don't get caught the first time).
If you have a permit, they know you have a gun to steal. You are making yourself a target. The Roanoke Times printed the names of all the CCW in VA. Better to be a scofflaw.
>>76664919
*38 super
>>76671228
The national firearms act was passed in 1996. I was pretty young so...
Before that the federal government played very little part in firearm legislation at all.
There was one shooting (that some to this day feel was a false flag) and the media immediately blamed guns. That night the law was passed without a vote and the public was bombarded with anti-gun propaganda non-stop for ten years. That's why you get so many anti-gun australian's making fun of american gun culture here all the time.
They aren't just making jokes they actually believe in that shit because they have been brainwashed to be extremely anti-gun.
In 1998 in my state they even passed another law called the Weapons Prohibition Act which basically says you can't carry ANYTHING with the intention of using it as a weapon including for self defence. This includes in your own home. If you have a baseball bat next to your front door in case someone tries to get in and you hit them with it and you are dumb enough to tell the cops you kept the bat next to the door to hit someone if they tried to break in you will get charged for possession of an illegal weapon. That's how fucking tight it is.
Not to mention out self defense laws are written like vague fuckery. Basically if a judge "feels" like you used "excessive force" to defend yourself or you home or your family you can be charged with assault, manslaughter or murder.
>>76671327
I feel for you guys, I really do.
>>76671601
i don't know, he was talking about legislating from the bench but as we all know, thats not a real thing because no legislation was created and we all know the difference between de jure and de facto
>>76671705
its not required to be
>>76669658
I think I understand, thanks
>>76670084
That happened once. Nigs are shooting people in D.C every day. London's murder rate is nothing compared to your capital
>>76670240
>>76671282
Well why don't you focus on this instead of simply banging on about the second amendment? You're right it's criminal shootings that give your gun laws a bad name but I never see anyone here mentioning criminal gun control it's always just "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" whatever that means. You need to get logical if you are ever going to beat the left.
>>76671167
there is only proof that shows that path you listed aligns more with our racial extinction.
>>76671496
>>76671228
The buyback program cost australian tax payers $500 million since one of the few things written in our constitution that is actually good for the people states that the government must give "just compensation" for any private property it acquires.
The buy back was compulsory so if the police got word you had guns and weren't turning them in they could search your property and then charge you with illegal weapons charges. Legal gun owners don't want that hassle so most people just handed them in.
$500 million might not sound like too much money by american standards but you have to remember that there was only 18 million people in australia in 1996.
So the government claims it bought $500 million worth of guns off of 18 million people. That's like 27 million dollars worth of guns per person.
Now that is some complete and total bullshit.
We had no say in any of this. People are too stupid to look at the numbers themselves. The government just makes a "muh feelings" argument and bombard the people with shit like "we don't want to be like america they have a school shooting every week" nonsense non stop.
>>76668622
RARE FLAG
>>76661664
>9th Circuit mattering anywhere but that shitfest that is California.
Fuck them, I hope they drown in a sea of mexishits.
>>76666744
underrated
>>76673140
>Well why don't you focus on this instead of simply banging on about the second amendment?
We've been doing that in the US for twenty years, its actually a major part of the NRA platform. The big issue is that you have competing lobbying interests arguing that there are too many black men in prison.
>You need to get logical if you are ever going to beat the left.
We're not actually the kinds of people you see on /pol/. In the last six years Chicago has gone from a total ban on handguns and a registry to no restrictions whatsoever on handguns, shall issue concealed carry, and no registry. We are winning.
>>76670240
Oh yeah also my brother is in Chicago, I was gonna visit but after reading this... Are tourists allowed guns? I have no criminal record.
>>76668094
>open carry makes you a target of ridicule
>open carry lets society know how much of a anxious cuck you are
yeah no wonder so many ppl want conceal carry. to feel like they have a big dick and to not have normal ppl hate them. aka /pol/ in a nutshell.
>>76668851
m8 this is how people work
It's fucking retarded, but it's how they work
Out of Sight
Out of Mind
Nobody gives a flying fuck about the NSA spying on them - right up until an agent calls them up and says the joke they told their mom was just fucking hilarious, then suddenly OMG MY PRIVACY, MUH CONSTITUTION, DAS ILLEGAL.
I've watched people have conversations KNOWING not only that someone could listen in, but that people PROBABLY WERE, in fact almost GUARANTEED they were. And the individuals having this 'private' conversation suddenly stopped having it the moment it was brought to their attention that people ACTUALLY were.
Out of Sight
Out of Mind
>>76673426
N-Not funny.
>>76673882
having probably never held let alone carried a gun in your life I don't think you are even remotely qualified to say any of this. If you are carrying correctly and comfy you forget the gun is there and you don't think about it till you take it off later.
>>76673140
ur murder rate is low because you have fewer negroes, the white murder rate in America is on par w. Western Europe, but violent blacks drive up the rate.
blacks are 13% of the population, but over 50% of murderers are black. according to a 2010 DOJ report-- 2010 that's Obama and Holder not some KKK.
>>76673390
>$500 million guns
>18 million people
>that's like 27 million dollars worth of guns per person
burger-tier education straya
>>76669941
Already got mine but i need something that is more practical to carry in lighter summer clothing.
>>76674148
I switched to the Glock 43 and love it man. Would recommend for EDC.
>>76673849
Chicago is segregated as fuck. You'll be fine.
>>76670240
Pretty sure they do this so black crime statistics are minimized so that "white supremacists" won't be able to point out "hate facts".
Plus god forbid the police be allowed to do their job. The niggers will chimpout and begin the unwarranted screaming of the word racist if that were to happen.
Yeah nice work chicago, the problem is police and legal gun owners and racism. It's got nothing to do with black crime gangs or anything.
>>76674099
bitch please i compete in 3 gun
if you're like most gun owners i run into, you own a gun but go to the range once every other year.
enjoy shooting yourself in the hip when you actually need to use your gun for real.
>>76674400
>3 gun is training for defense
Nigga pls I shoot almost every damn weekend and carrying a gun everyday is different than playing a game.
>>76664291
>$0.01 has been deposited into your account
>>76663307
>AZ
>Part of 9th circuit.
WOAH WOAH WOAH WHAT?
>>76674283
id like something really small to carry like a PF9 but id have to get a Glock 29 if i wanted to keep carrying my HV/AP meme rounds.
>>76674148
Looks fucking huge.
How do you conceal that? How fat are you?
>>76674107
I will agree with you to some extent however London is 12% black. Bad gun control has a hand as well. Black or white if you're a criminal your guns should be seized, end of problem.
Did you know that Cho, Rodger and friends bought their guns legally even after being diagnosed with a shit-ton of mental illnesses? Bad gun control.
At least you've sort of changed my mind on the issue, I'm not completely anti gun anymore seeing as you pointed out that urban blacks are causing the problem. But there still needs to be more stringent checks. Gun ownership free of all government interference is an unattainable fantasy because some people will ruin it when not watched.
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>>76674116
yeah you're right I'm retarded. goddammit.
>>76673849
no, the US Constitution allows you to keep and bare arms if needed but its illegal for you as a non-resident Alien to buy one at a gun store or gun show. if you want go to a range and rent some guns, preferably with American friends. there are loads of places in Las Vegas that charge ridiculous amounts of money for foreign tourists to shoot rifles and machine guns for their first time.
>>76662459
once you get in your car and take clip off your belt what do u have to do while transporting?
keep it in plain sight on the seat or can u conceal it?
>>76662459
They can go fuck themselves.
>>76674628
Arizona frequently and consistently ignores 9th circuit rulings.
>>76668622
Literally brainwashing.
That's it, that's all it is. Brainwashing is real, it's done through mass media - tv shows, movies, radio, videogames, advertising. It preys on your subconscious understanding of the world by feeding you false stereotypes. They grow up seeing behaviour A creates outcome B in TV shows, and then when they encounter behaviour A in real life, they assume the outcome will be B, but in reality it is more often C or D.
A very simple example: There are a lot of people who believe cars regularly explode and do so in dramatic fashion at the slightest accident.
Exploding cars are one of the biggest hollywood tropes, but people aren't often exposed to car accidents and while they may "understand" that TV isn't real, they still accept whatever they see on TV as real until real life proves otherwise, and so there are a lot of naive individuals out there who honestly think cars explode like they're filled with TNT, only because that's what they've always seen in movies and TV.
That is what all these liberals are: Literally brainwashed naive children who have never grown up to see what reality is like, and worse - as they get older they start actively avoiding reality; creating hugboxes, safe spaces where they won't have their understanding of the world shattered by reality.
Being a liberal, a leftist, or SJW, is being brainwashed and mind controlled.
>>76661789
Not to mention that it is only binding in the 9th Circus.
>>76661266
Well, I own and carry a gun. And I'm an extremely evil and mean person.
>>76674971
Fuck yea.
Fuck CA.
>>76663943
in CA it is. You will not be issued a permit unless you are close friends with the higher ups in the police department or you are a major donor.
>>76674640
Show it if you got it
>>76674668
only around 80kg by your Yuro measurements, not huge but the gun is big enough to be difficult to conceal without a jacket over it.
thats an In The Waistband holster, it fits inside of your pants and the clips attach onto your belt. the backing is a slab of treated leather so it bends around my hip without a problem and only a few inches of the grip stick up over the top of my pants.
>>76674382
This guy's right. Stay on the North side, avoid Wrigley, you'll have no problems.
>>76669204
Civility doesn't exist in a country of 40% non-whites
>>76667382
That's because it's illegal to import foreign semi-auto rifles in the us. Not so in canada.
>>76661611
That's because we are s republic.
>>76662591
Someone will take it to supreme court.
>>76675853
Is that a laser pointer at the end of that rifle?
Is it powered by your hand's warmth or something? Because that would be awesome.
>>76678875
its a flashlight with a pressure pad; squeeze to turn on, let go to turn off.
>>76674400
t. 12 year old frog
Call of duty tutorials don't count buddy
>>76674753
By restricting the rights of the mentally ill, you discourage them from even seeking diagnosis, much less treatment.
Compounding that, going by opinions espoused in some left-leaning groups, the desire to own a firearm is indicative of a mental illness anyway.
Finally; the crimes you aim to prevent are, while absolutely tragic, rare but bureaucracy operates in systems and isn't equipped to handle outliers with any precision.
To argue from a different point of view, I wouldn't trust the same government has defied it's own definitions to keep marijuana a class 1 controlled substance to judge which disorders should disqualify you from which rights and for how long.
>>76661266
be like me get a shotgun, I live in alabama and i can walk down the road with a shotgun i do it all the time.
>>76661266
I am a huge fan of open carry. I hate laws that entitle little bitches. Hiding a gun on your person should be illegal. I am right here, open and honest. Concealing your weapon is something niggers and bitches do. If you want to back your words up with a gun, just fucking do it. Put it all out in the light of day. Stand your ground in the light. There is shit that can be said that will cause a punch to be thrown. Show your defence in the light and speak your mind, or hide your criminality in the shadows and bait unsuspecting drunks.
The US needs to balkanize. Fuck California. They've even taken over Texas.
This decision was made by the 9th circuit which covers AK, AZ, CA, HI, ID, MT, NV, OR, WA, GU and MP.
To get this to the Supreme Court there needs to be a split decision about this specific issue in the circuits, but there hasn't been one yet. So expect these restrictions to last for a while.
>>76681451
Whoa, holy shit, are you serious???
I fail to see how people in Alaska, Montana, dand Idaho are going to tolerate this.
>>76661266
That's the ugliest gun I think I've ever seen, jeez. All it's missing is a Punisher logo.
>>76680629
I'm glad Canada's gun laws are shit because you're an idiot who doesn't understand the advantages and disadvantages of carrying in certain ways in certain places, and frankly you don't deserve to own any.
>>76672703
>its not required to be
then whats the point?
>>76670502
>Wales
You are poorer than fucking Lithuania. Go choke on some coal you impoverished faggot.
>>76681838
>I'm glad Canada's gun laws are shit
There is a gun club i can go fire handguns and ar15s every tuesday. I can buy a 30odd6 or 10 gauge shotgun tomorrow for $100 off kijiji and not have to register it. Our laws are not shit. Your mentality is weak and you are a bitch.
>>76665520
>but this is /pol/, and he's probably quite gelatinous.
getting tired of this meme.
12% bodyfat, 6'0" 190 lbs.
bench: 230 x6
squat: 420 x5
pic is me from a week ago
be jelly fatfags
>>76680629
you sound like a 12 year old wowfag complaining about rogues being OP
>>76680629
Real life doesn't work that way.
You carry a gun to defend against knockout game bullshit, or getting mugged.
I'd do what you're talking about if crime were 0% and all a gun were used for were honorable duels.
>>76682917
>Real life doesn't work that way.
Works quite fine. I live in the real world though, not hypothetical situations that involve delusions of grandeur>>76682917
>You carry a gun to defend against knockout game bullshit
Unless you have eyes in the side and back of your head, you are always at risk of being sucker punched. A hidden gun does not prevent that. An open carried gun just might though.
You are a scared bitch.
>>76682420
>There is a gun club i can go fire handguns and ar15s every tuesday. I can buy a 30odd6 or 10 gauge shotgun tomorrow for $100 off kijiji and not have to register it.
That's cute.
>meanwhile, in an American's home
>>76682420
>30odd6
>>76661664
>commiefornia
>>76683499
It is a beast of a gun. Would make you cry if you felt it kick into your shoulder.
>>76683321
>meanwhile, in an American's home
Where is the fat slob and his cheating wife?
>>76682450
Wow those tattoos are horrendous
>>76664353
I used to work in the shithole that is Oakland, never again. If you're going to leave before you have nothing left, might as well go to WV, ME, NH, or VT. I would have included MT, but that state will soon be just as fucked up as Wisconsin.
>>76674148
Get an M&p Shield 9 with a Clipdraw mount. Super slim and pretty accurate 8+1 9mm with good aftermarket. I can stuff mine in my waistband and forget about it.
>>76683818
I know, /pol/ always has to talk shit about tattoos, like little faggy girls. Went through a phase when I got back from the desert. Lots of bourbon and a tattoo gun. I regret nothing, and you're still a virgin.
;^)
>>76664291
Indeed there's a thing called AMENDMENTS if you want to change the constitution.
>>76684129
Would you prefer to place a gun on your hip in plain view, or hidden in your pants under a shirt? My bet is holstered and unashamed.
>>76684086
>clipdraw
>on a plastic gun with a 7lb trigger
wew
>>76673140
>>76674753
DC has rigid gun control and so does California.
You know what states are the safest in the US? Maine and New Hampshire. Both have no restrictions other than the federal ones, constitutional carry (no need for CCL) and the latter doesn't even have a minimum age for gun ownership.
You should also take a look at Czechia and Switzerland, both have very light gun control, but are safer than your country. The problem is niggers and (lack of) mental healthcare, guns don't make a difference.
>>76661266
Yeah fuck that noise, I'm still carrying.
Then again though I'm a cop, so I guess I could use that as an excuse. My advice? Never disarm, no matter what the law says. Not saying to attack cops now, but never disarm. No one I know would enforce a handgun ban.
>>76684293
I was present for an off duty pulling a concealed carry on an armed robber when I was a young man. If he hadn't been concealed, more than the dindu would have died that day. We don't live in the old west, where cowboys are some kind of chivalrous knights. People nowadays are scum who'll pop you in the back of the skull if they think you're a threat. I'd rather conceal if the point is to protect my life and that of others. When I'm hiking for days in the woods, I have a duty holster. If i'm somewhere like the woods or a ranch, I'll open carry. If I'm in the city, I conceal that shit.
>>76682450
That watch is fucking huge. Doesn't it get in the way when you masturbate to gay porn?
expiration date on conceal carry license- kek
Indiana for the lifetime win; bitches
>>76661266
San Fagcisco is officially dead. They just don't know it yet.
>>76684960
>when you masturbate to gay porn
Get in the way?
Did you picture me fisting myself?
>>76685154
Do you not?
>>76684862
That webum brings me joy every time I watch it.
>>76661266
I can still carry my big ass unconcealed knife and my great sword around.
Hope no one shoots me.
>>76685271
Nah m8, I got a bad shoulder, so self-fisting is out of the question.
>>76685284
that's a good one too -- wtf was he doing, just walking face first into a drawn handgun?
>>76684862
>If he hadn't been concealed, more than the dindu would have died that day
Had he been open, the dindu might have moved on.
You are a cop i take it. How many muggings are committed against people openly carrying a gun vs people concealing a gun? How many bodies turn up because an open carry fired on a criminal vs how many bodies show up on a criminal who was shot by conceal carry?
I respect what you do. We can't let cops dictate laws though, because they will always want to dictate laws that make their job easier. I am sorry. Vigilantes knocking off petty criminals is good for you, but not for me.
>>76685415
Did you hurt your shoulder fisting yourself?
Even f you don't anymore, the momentum alone must be exhausting when masturbating. No wonder your arms are so thick.
>>76685415
He drew it as the dindu was looking down and pointing at whatever cigarillos or purple drank he was pointing at for him to give him.
>>76670502
Careful with the hate speech or the bobbies might come knockin'
>>76683684
Probably shitposting on /pol/ and /k/
>>76685284
>>76684862
my cz 75 B leather hoslter sucks.
its a minute men and many time that i practice with it.
The fucking holster comes out of my pants.
Mine is this one but for cz 75 b .
And yes im big enough and wear the right clothing that i can conceal carry the cz 75 b.
Also i really fucking hate seattle.
Me and my non fag coworkers were talking about guns we want to own and shit we fired and just guns in general.
And this faggot 40 yr old virgin who lives with cats as the closest pussy he will get says
"is this really the main topic of the day?" and i was like "no but its a conversation between us 3" and he gets all moody like a fag and after a minute goes "thanks Anon for being so considerate"
If i did not care for this job i would have called him a fucking idiot who needs to mind his own business nobody was talking to his dumbass and if it was not inappropriate to talk about our legal hobby.
i cant wait to go back to GA! just 3 more months. i want to go with at least 11 grand.
>>76685448
>Vigilantes knocking off petty criminals is good for you, but not for me.
Worried you might get popped, Mr. Ahmed-mcbixnoodison?
>>76684422
>t. Fudd who prints a 1911 Gov
>>76674753
There are enough guns in America for each and every citizen, you want to make it more difficult because of 3 different people.
The reason we dont want that is because we dont want the government knowing who has a gun, in case stricter gun control is passed.
It has just as much to do with privacy as it has to do with the guns themselves.
>>76685448
>Had he been open, the dindu might have moved on.
a lot of maybe's. most likely, if he really fucking wanted that money, he'd put thegun to your temple and ask for what's in your holster. Think of it in OODA algorithm fashion. If someone is going to threaten death/harm, your best advantage is the element of surprise. Give that up, you become a neon sign.
>You are a cop i take it.
Nope.
>How many muggings are committed against people openly carrying a gun vs people concealing a gun?
Lots of officers have their guns taken from them each year. Darren Wilson famously nearly lost his that day, and he was sitting "safely" in his vehicle.
>Vigilantes knocking off petty criminals...
I'm not a cop man, I just know how easy it is to die and what deranged crackheads are like. I got stabbed when I was in my early 20's working a job as security at a club. It happened fast, and I was unarmed, so i had to fight/run open handed, bleeding all over the place. I'll never be unarmed again, that was the lesson I learned. I don't give a fuck about shitheads who risk the lives of others, i'm not preoccupied with idealistic fairytales about sacrificing myself so subhumans can keep parasiting off society and ruining the lives of peaceful people. If someone comes for me over a cash register or a wallet, they're going to Valhalla.
>>76685639
>No wonder your arms are so thick.
You deciphered my secret to sexy masculine arms.
>>76686069
>Worried you might get popped
Little bit. As you can clearly see i speak my mind. Some weaker people tend to take great offence to some of my insults and get violent. I am a decent fighter though, so they almost always get shamed. I am worried about one of these weak losers pulling a gun out of his belt and shooting me in the back.
>>76686217
> i had to fight/run open handed, bleeding all over the place.
A concealed weapon would have let you fight back. An open carried weapon would have prevented you from getting stabbed.
>>76661266
The thing about the California ruling is that they ruled previously that you can't open carry guns. Then they ruled that you can't conceal carry guns either, but judges have ruled that telling people they can't have guns violates the 2nd Amendment.
As we all know, the 2nd SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED so the left has got some serious doublethink to overcome here. They either want people to concealed carry or they want people to open carry. They cannot ban both because banning both effectively infringes the 2nd amendment.
>>76661695
Nigga I have to wait two weeks to get an appointment with my sheriff's deputy just to submit papers. CCW is fucking huge right now.
