>migrnts didn't cross the border
>the border crossed THEM
feel that burn, conservashits?
>>76627582
Won it all in war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo
>>76627642
The border still crossed them up or down. Amerishits btfo
>>76627582
That's it, I'm a #cruzmissile now
>>76627725
You're right, we should've kicked them all out when we had the chance.
>>76627582
Why would any mexican, legal or illegal, want the southwest to be part of Mexico again?
>>76627582
people arent this retarded are they?
to the victor goes the splendor.
this is why women shouldn't hold office.
>>76627582
In that case, after we give it to Mexico, shouldn't they give it the the Indians?
>>76627800
Should've, would've, could've.
>>76627582
>Liberals have never opened a history book
>Think the borders of others nations have never changed throughout all of history
Come and take it.
>>76627582
Then they became the US citizens
>>76627884
It's never too late :^)
B-but we bought that fair and square in a deal that has no paperwork or credibility!
>>76627725
>potato nigger mad because catholics got wrecked and stranded fellow potato niggers in Mexico
>>76627725
But that's wrong, mexipoors are crossing the modern borders
>>76627884
Call us when you're relevant, Italy.
>>76627582
>mexican """intellectuals"""
This argument is monumentally retarded, by that idea of "the old days were better" Mexico should be 5 Countries because several states declared independence, like the Yucatan Peninsula.
If you go further back, to the indians, Mexico would be like 8 because each native civilizacion had it's own border.
Borders change, but they exist for a reason, you can't just go back in time and say "I like it better this way".
>my intellectuals
Any Mexican who can trace their heritage in what is now the United States to pre-1850 is more than justified. Anyone else can fuck off.
>>76627800
You still have a chance.
>>76628004
No. The only reason the yanks won is because they had us, the fighting Irish.
>>76628116
>Ireland winning fights that don't involve a busted pint glass
>>76627582
>Liberal white cuckolds are active advocating for this country to give up our rightful land.
>>76627582
Should've taken the whole miserable country
>>76628116
You're trying anything to feel relevant, aren't you?
>>76627987
You have to go back
>>76628242
I don't think you'd want the people.
>>76627582
Be glad we didn't decide to take the whole fucking place and contain you in "reservations" like we did to the other folk that lived here.
>>76627582
Actually, Mexicans, we kicked your ass and you're still crying about it.
But imagine if all of that land still belonged to Mexico. Instead of the glorious west coast of the US, we'd have another thousand miles of sprawling, undeveloped, third-world shithole desert run by criminal cartels, psychotic thugs, human traffickers, and corrupt politicians.
Fucking beaners would still be climbing the border fences into Colorado by the thousands to take jobs, lower wages, send money back to Mexico, and wave Mexican flags because their country is so great they had to leave it just to survive.
>>76628280
I want you
>>76628251
No, its the truth. When the Irish landed the yanks put them straight into the army. That's the only reason they won.
>>76627582
Ok, let them take it. They'll just turn it into a low IQ third world country rife with poverty, rape, and dysfunction. Then they'll illegally come across the border into Washington or Oregon or Colorado to clean people's yards or pools, and we'll start the whole process again.
>>76627582
>2nd Mexican-American War when?
How many Mexicans (mestizos, not Pueblos) actually lived north of the Rio Grande before the war? Mexico only wanted those territories because so they could keep expanding northward into the Dakotas and Montana. Mexico sucked at building an empire in the 19th century and now they just suck at everything and anything.
These beaners are lucky we don't airdrop them into the gulf and take the Yucatan for ourselves.
>>76628346
YEAH IT IS TRUE SO WHAT YOU HELPED US GET RID OF MEXICANS WHY ARE YOU MAD?
So based on this point, 50% of the USA come back to France because it's the case before Napoleon ?
>>76628346
>Irish in the Mexican American War
>>76628346
Didn't hundreds of micks defect into the Mexican army so they could fight alongside fellow catholics?
>>76627582
We shouldn't have stopped after one war. We should have annexed all of mexico and kicked out all the shitskins.
>>76628504
Also Mexico goes back to Spain.
>>76627725
>>76627884
Why are you of all people acting smug about someone reclaiming clay?
>>76627582
>>76628599
Yes, St. Patrick's Battalion, thirty were hanged the moment the Marines raised the flag over Chapultepec.
>>76628493
Not as many as you'd think, before the war those places were extremely desertic for the mexicans, who didn't want to build any infrastructure to get water, it was mostly empty but Santa Anna wanted them because he just wanted terrain.
>>76628716
Kek.
>>76627582
Hey wey, dale grasias a dios que no te samparon toda la pata en el culo y no te reconquistaron.
>>76628794
doesn't seem strategical to control that large of a territory without infrastructure
>>76627582
>Borders change, but they exist for a reason, you can't just go back in time and say "I like it better this way".
>>76628493
not many. most were in northern new mexico and southern california. 90% took american citizenship, renounced mexico and have been living there every since. i grew up in albuquerque with lots of their descendants and they view themselves differently than the more recent mexicans who have come to the US. most identify as generic "hispanic" or "spanish" and dont like being lumped in as "mexicans"
>>76628346
The Irish put their time into this country
>>76628066
This
Based Mex bro
>>76629051
It's not strategical at all, Santa Anna was beyond retarded and had no fucking clue how to make war or run a state, he was a tremendous failure as both a military and political leader.
>>76629222
How come he seems so idolized? Or is that just a misconception?
>>76629051
Exactly. If America didn't take over, someone else would have. Probably Japan or China. And those fucks were brutal back in those days.
>>76628501
This.
Honest to fucking God, most Americans are Irish so lo and fucking behold lots of Irish (meaning Americans) fought in lots of wars. Everyone here knows that.
>>76629051
new mexico was connected to mexico by a pretty long and rugged wagon trail but otherwise evolved as a seperate part of the spanish empire. the local settlers were pretty independent by 1848 and the wealthy families were sending their sons to college in St. Louis instead of Mexico City by that point.
>>76629315
Because these fucking people are passionately paternalist to the point of fanatism and are expansionist to the point of wannabe conquerors, the mexican people just want more land to brag about even if it's empty so any military leader, however much of a failure he's been, is regarded as a hero because he wanted to expand.
Santa Anna was a complete failure to the point that he was exiled TWICE of his own country for causing draughts, poor improvement and abuse of power in the states he looked over.
>Still buttmad at America for winning a war 100 years ago
>Still wants to immigrate to America
>>76627582
The Mexican Cession gave the United States that land. We won fair and square.
>>76629534
Agree. When it takes a thousand troops to kill Davey Crockett, you're doing something wrong.
But, this is the story of Mexico in a nutshell. The entire country is one giant fuck up machine, leeching off it's northern neighbor like that fucking asshole who you allow to stay at your apt for a few days, then won't get a job and leave.
TEXAS WAS INDEPENDENT--A LITERAL COUNTRY WITH AN EMBASSY IN PARIS--AND DECIDED, BY ITSELF, TO JOIN THE UNITED STATES
FUCKING BEANERS REEEEEEEEEEHAW
It's simple.
Wherever white people are, it's nice. Wherever East Asians are, it's nice. Wherever black people are, it's terrible. Hispanics aren't really race so that's a more difficult question.
>>76627725
No it didn't. Mexican people had the of going to Mexico or getting American citizenship. 90% took citizenship. So if you crossed the border, you were either never north of it, or you chose to go back.
Now fuck off.
>>76627582
The tyrannical Mexican government got its ass kicked by brave Texan patriots, deal with it. Mexico should give it back to the Spanish by this logic. Then Spain should give it back to France. Then France should give it back to Spain. Then Spain should it give it back to the tribes. This line of logic is retarded, as you can see.
>>76630004
>be Sam Houston
>work your ass off to get Texas recognized as a nation
>jew the US to enter the Union on more favorable terms
>oppose secession in 1860 and get removed from office
>die angry
Poor Sam
>>76629953
Well I think that t he problem is that the people rely on someone else, always, if you look at the mexican history it always happens that the people support someone other than the current government, because they are promised things for themselves.
Like Cortez when the conquest happened, people rallied behind him and turned on Moctezuma, besides Moctezuma was a fucking idiot too.
Like the creoles, the people rallied behind them because thei promised, creoles and natives, more freedom; and it never happened.
Like people rallying behind Santa Anna because all he promised was more land, he wanted to conquer ALL of the united states and failed miserably and spectacularly.
Like the revolutionaries who promised people control of their own land and took down Mexico's best president DON Porfirio Diaz, a president so good that he even named himself emperor.
Mexicans are always looking for convenience, but coming from someone else.
>>76630139
>East Asia
>nice
Nope.
>>76627582
This is a map of progressive battles between the US and Mexico, as you can see you got your ass's conquered. Get over it pussy
>>76627987
>no paperwork or credibility
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo
Public school has failed you massively. Sad!
>>76627725
Where is your seal, Pablo? Did you sell it to pay for the wall?
>>76630459
First post left out pic related....
>>76630139
>white people
>automatically nice
>>76628493
Not many, and funnily enough, all the Mexicans living in the newly American territories were offered citizenship or deportation. ALL of them took citizenship.
>>76630004
Also Texas decided by itself to leave Mexico. Fuck Mexico.
COME AND TAKE IT
>>76627987
Dude, fuck Mexico and fuck Mexicans even more so. All they do is leech. They take jobs from us, send all the money back to Mexico and they're still fucking dirt poor.
And before you cry racism, it has nothing to do with it, no matter how much they scream about it. Mexico is the worst possible neighbor a decent country could have, other than maybe Syria. And notice how all the dumbass Syrians run to europe, looking for a free lunch.
Fix your own fucking country instead of begging for handouts from successful ones. Have some fucking pride.
>>76631101
>that feel when I'll never be a Texan by birth
>>76628116
>Paddy runs away from Ireland so the Britbongs don't draft him into some war they don't care about
>get to America
>get drafted to go fight to free the slaves
>get drafted to go kill mexicans on the literal other side of the world
Mexico literally had that land for less than 30 years between Spain and the US having it. They have no claims to it.
>>76631466
kek, would have been great craic.
>>76627582
>land cannot be sold or traded
yeah ok bud
>>76631392
I AM a Texan by birth and it feels fucking fantastic.
>>76630692
>slavs
>White
Even Whites do poorly under Communism, too. I'm sure 70 years of Communism had a negative effect on the overall IQ of the population, too. Dissenters who were executed tended to be the smarter people.
They're Bringing drugs.
/pol/ is never btfo
>over a hundred years later and they're still mad at how badly they got BTFO
Our ancestors took this land. They sailed across the sea and they took it, and made it, and held it. They fought and died here, and they're buried here. Their blood is in the soil. We do not give up what our ancestors have given to us. This is our land, strengthened with or bones. Ours.
>>76631392
You can come to America and live in Texas after Trump is elected. Once you swear the oath and denounce your former nationality you are as American as anyone else.
>>76631744
I'm not even from Texas and the replacement of Texans with spics makes me sadder than the complete depopulation of whites in my own state.
>>76628066
this
>>76627582
At that time, there was little to no one living in the vast majority of that land. There were some indigenous peoples obviously, but they wouldn't have considered themselves "Mexicans."
The Mestizo spanish-Mexicans that were living in the territories now part of the US were living in very small towns in remote and sparely populated regions. There wasn't any major cities, or anything of significant cultural value that was Mexican in these regions at the time.
Get the fuck over it Paco, it's our land now.
This argument is like the French complaining about the Louisiana Purchase. It's so fucking pathetic.
>>76627582
P R O M I N E N T
>>76627582
Just shows that they are history's most cowardly invaders. At least whites had the balls to say fuck off, this is our land now and kill anyone who resisted.
The Mexicans attacked us and so we fought back. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
We actually took a lot more, but we didn't annex everything.
>>76627582
>Mexicunts mad over territory that they literally held for less than 50 years before losing it in war.
Typical socialists desu.
>>76627582
Sigh.. all one has to do is look the demographic numbers of the years to know that is total bullshit.
>>76632035
A lot of mestizos (literal rape babies) try to claim the southwestern US as Mexico on behalf of the natives, as if the natives don't hate their diarrhea colored asses just as much.
>>76627582
that statement would only be true if the mexicans stayed and had been here the entire time but they didnt stay. they got defeated in a war and left because it wasnt there any more.
so they did cross the boarder. california isnt mexico no matter how many times you say it is pedro
>tfw just Tejas could btfo of Mexico in 36 hrs
get gud beaners
>>76630692
First of all....Slav.
Second of all, Marxism slays races and cultures and logic itself and enslaves a people in the name of "the state" which just means that smart people have to reduce the quality of their life In order to placate dumb people.
>>76627582
>wise mexican women
>>76627582
oh well guess we can't play nice now time to annexx mexico.
>>76632238
RARE
>>76631974
Ungrateful spics, at that.
>>76632238
Rare flag btfo's beaners.
Mexico is lucky it even still exists. The U.S. Army marched right into Mexico City itself and declared martial law. There was a widespread belief among the military and the American right that we would annex the entire country outright, because we had earned it by all traditions of conquest.
But we didn't conquer the whole country because we're nice people. Mexicans are so ungrateful.
>>76627582
Right of conquest.
Remember that time America fought them all the way back their shitty little capital?
Yeah good times. You lost fair and square dude.
>>76627582
In 1848, faggot. There is not a living person with memory of when this was Mexico, and those of us who were born here don't want it to be Mexico. And the oldschool families who were here during the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo don't want to become part of Mexico. There is a reason that Mexico's inhabitants are fleeing to here. Mexico is a fucking shithole.
>>76627817
Because they think welfare and white guilt are both natural resources that will always be there to be exploited.
>>76632238
RARE
>>76632390
>>76632291
no, go back to lurking or contributing, ty.
>>76632532
>Mexico is lucky it even still exists.
Literally the only reason Mexico exists is because the U.S. doesn't want to administer 130 million beaners back into civilization. There's nothing worth having there. Their people have built nothing worth taking, and it would be a tar-baby meaning that if we punched it, we would get a little on us, and the U.S. doesn't want to get a little Mexico on it.
Mexican intellectuals--WHAT'S THAT LIKE!?
>implying we didn't pay cash money for the land
>implying mexico wasn't over extended
>blaming us and not santa ana
>implying mexicans had any ideas what to do with the hilly shit land california was at the time
>implying mexicans themsleves aren't hypocrites for taking native clay
>implying they weren't given FREE US CITIZENSHIP
>implying the land isn't 1000x better off in the US
>implying all these immigrant Mexicans would rather live in a shitty northern mexican territory than southwest US
>>76632889
RARE and based
>>76627582
hey, why don't we just travel back a little further and install native americans instead.
>placing mexicans above native americans
y'all dont go back far enough
>>76627725
Youre right, we shouldve annexed Mexico when we won the war
>>76632889
Germany reunification would have nothing on the US trying to annex beanland.
>>76627582
>wise mexican
>>76627800
It's not the ones who stayed who are the problem. It's only some of the ones who crossed the border after 1848.
>>76627725
"Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or receiving American citizenship with full civil rights. Over 90% chose to become US citizens."
When I hear Illegals claim that they were here first it makes my blood boil. My ancestors CHOSE TO STAY. If their's went back to Mexico they forfeited their rights to the land.
>>76628116
More like superior artillery.
>>76632889
R A R E
>>76627582
>Mexico having any claim to shit taken 200 years ago
>>76627725
Most people living in the territories we took were Native Americans. The only place with a significant hispanic population was the Tejanos in Texas who fought alongside Texans to free themselves from the Mexicans.
>>76627582
>no one was alive today when that border was moved
>>76627582
Pointless because Tejanos and Californias and Arizonans, etc have always considered themselves different from Mexicans.
>>76627582
I really don't care if you take the South West. I am nice and safe up here in PA where we don't have to deal with you mestizos
>>76633133
>Germany reunification would have nothing on the US trying to annex beanland.
Of course not, because we're essentially talking about white folks. Judeo-Communism can keep them down, but not when sane people swoop in and free them from the semitic idealism of socialism . . .
OTOH, the US annexing Mexico would be okay only in the event that the beaners were holocausted.
Mexicans make mexicos. Americans make Americas. Germans make Germanys.
Am I making sense?
>>76627582
Oh If some indian mualtto do it it's suddenly right ,but when WE want to do it we are Hortyst ,fascist mongols?
>>76632041
RARE
A
R
E
>>76627582
>wise mexican
>>76631961
Already American, but I'm technically a DC faggot as that's where I'm registered to vote
one day I'll return to the homeland and I'll be going straight to Texas
>>76633670
I will always support you Hungary, for what it's worth. You guys are all right in my book.
>>76628639
We don't want that shithole
>>76627582
they should have fought harder if they wanted to keep it.
>>76627582
>mexican "wisdom"
>>76627846
real Aztecs and other Mexican land natives are extinct, which is not true for American land natives
>>76634011
I mean. I personally don't want the whole Grater Hungary. Just Kárpátalja ,Csallóköz and a part from northern Serbia. And Szekler independenc of corse.
>>76627582
Well most the people crossing these days are Central American and Mexico literally puts these children and single moms on rape trains and in the hands of nefarious individuals. Mexico has no right to take the moral high ground when there mafia state let's savage mass murders take place. Fuck off Paco.
>>76628599
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick's_Battalion
>>76634536
Go forth and reclaim your rightful Clay. Now is the best time to do so - everything else is on fire, I'm sure you can sneak in a little "liberation."
>>76634426
>real Aztecs and other Mexican land natives are extinct
What? Just look at Mexican streets, dude
>>76627582
No, the former Mexicans on this side of the border stayed here. You faggots were never here and don't belong here.
>>76627884
Kick out your African hordes and then lecture us.
At least ours use indoor plumbing.
>>76627582
You dirty spics had better be thankful we didn't take more from your lazy asses.
>>76631974
We take white immigrants that are willing to be Texan. That's how we took this land from Mexico in the first place, we need to continue.
>>76628328
This.
>>76627817
1. They do not think. "Yeah, it would look totally cool to have that". Ignoring all the problems an annexation of such an important area of the most powerful nation would bring.
2. They do not realise that Mexico is not ready to keep up with that area
3. They are in the U.S.. Chicanos become super Mexican-nationalist when they cross the border, suddenly feeling nostalgia for the country they left.
4. They are stupid... Just that, you can ignore the former arguments
>>76634820
race =/= culture
they are just mestizo filth
>>76628486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CytcX2uG5-s
I do not know, you are taking your time.
>Remember El Álamo
>Remember the Maine
>Remember the Lusitania
>Remember 9/11
>Remember [?]
>>76627582
Bullshit
The main reason Americans grabbed so much land was the fact that there weren't even Mexicans on it
>>76628493
Almost no one, the government then let americans enter and own land there so they could serve for something, got comfy and did in a few years what Mexicans could not do in decades (God bless free market capitalism)
>>76632238
RARE
>>76627582
>almost no Mexicans in these areas when we took them in war
>Mexicans who claim native heritage are almost Mayan/Aztec or other central American tribal descendants and do not share ancestry with Native American tribes from that region
>if they push it to the point of war, we won't stop at the Rio this time and we're not going to be letting a single fucking one of them stay on our land ever again
don't forget Operation Wetback when hundreds of thousands of American citizens of Mexican heritage were stripped of their jobs and deported to gibs dat to unemployed white men.
Because simply put, the mexicans crossing the border are not exactly what you'd call the most learned. They are simple rural folk, and those types rally to causes out of passion, and the whole "This land used to be Mexico!" is very convenient to them.
Never mind the fact that they choose to leave their country, perhaps out of need, but it was still a choice. Also there is this very strange thing where Chicanos born and raised in USA suddenly become fanatical in their belief that they are mexican, even though they sometimes don't even speak spanish or even know a proper taco. THEN they come back here expecting this Mexican paradise of hugs and cakes but they realize mexicans are even more racists than amerifags and hate them because they are in fact gringos, or negros, or poor, or rich or faggots or whatever kind of deviant they are. Fucking chicanos stay in your god damned country.
>>76627582
Why don't they understand what it means to win a war?
>>76627884
i'm sure that's the type of thinking many of you potatoniggers are familiar with following your expensive lesson in the importance of crop diversification
>>76633800
>>76633459
>>76633046
>>76632790
>>76632291
For the collection >>76629004
>>76637018
Cause mexicans are tremendously famous for being bad losers and terrible winners.
Ironically, Mexico lost those lands because they hired way too many american workers, they grabbed their rifles and took the land, a good exemple of that was Texas, but american are smarter than mexicans, this is why they want to build a wall
>>76637138
You mean terrible at winning
>>76627582
Spanish territory =/= Mexico
>>76637269
I don't mean only at war, but if that's the case, Mexico has won its independence and tried to sever all ties and convince Spain to pay for all it's new military expenditure for 15 years, which it didn't.
We won a small war against French privateers and we tried to pull the same on France.
We helped with a whopping 30 people during the WW2 and some people here STILL believe we were the best airplane fighters around.
LA RAZA GTFO
>>76635895
>Having 95% Aztec blood and 5% Spanish blood
"They are not natives anymore". C'mon dude, also you think there were enough spanish people to breed with ALL the natives? There was the racism factor as well, it has always been...
>>76637812
i seriously doubt a 95/5 split is common.
>>76637457
>best airplane fighters
Like your air force in pic related?
>>76637812
>>76637812
Natives just could not resist the BCC (Big Conquistador Cock)
>>76638025
I mean squadron 201.
>>76637457
>some people here STILL believe we were the best airplane fighters around.
Didn't more Mexican pilots died in training accidents than in actual combat?
>>76627582
Maybe the Mayans should have spent less time piercing their wangs see the gods and focused on scientific advancement.
>>76638189
Yeah out of the total 70 some people involved in training around 15 died in training while only 1 died "in combat" but because his plane malfunctioned.
Still people believe we killed Hitler ourselves.
>>76638252
Mayans were relatively advanced, aztecs were stagnant.
>>76636883
It's nice to get a reminder that they're not all retarded.
Just most of the ones near me.
I suppose I'm just thankful they're less criminal minded than the nogs.
>>76627582
Since when is "Mexican" a race?
>>76638024
I think it's pretty common in the most native places of Mexico. Saying that real Aztecs and other Mexican natives are extinct is bullshit...
>>76627987
bought nothing you fucking idiot.
We took it, hell commiefornia was taken by just regular citizensm
>>76639156
Since the moment we stopped shunning ignorance.
>>76639275
They are, the ones who started the independence movement were creoles and even for them it was frowned upon to marry a native american, so for around 50 years politics and higher class of people were either fully spaniard or with very little native heritage, right now their culture is dead but their heritage is still present.
>>76627582
>implying people aren't crossing the current day border
>>76627582
Isn't that the same claim Hitler made about the Rhineland?
>>76638252
Mayans were the ones that actually did math and astrology. The aztecs were infact a warrior culture, who only got remembered because they conquered and bullied their way to the top. They did not care the least about anything other than conquering, except their fanatical devotion to Huitzilopochtli who was of course a war god who's whole thing is sacrifice, blood and conquering everyone. So yeah aztecs not very smart.
>>76627582
Isn't illegals from this part of Mexico that border didn't cross?
>>76627582
Didn't they sell those lands after the war?
>>76628716
Should rename the cities something English. Little Dog, King Mountain, Trump City, Spring Break Beach
Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo
