>guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't ban guns
>Islam causes death! Ban Islam
Fucking conservatard logic
so was it the gun or the islam that killed those people in san bernadino?
>>76625886
Ideology promotes action.
Guns are objects.
You're a dumbass.
>>76626089
This
Seriously you didn't think this through did you?
You're comparing apples to oranges faggot
Islam is an ideology a gun is a tool
>>76626089
>The 2nd amendment doesn't stem from any philosophy or ideals
>>76626384
The 2nd amendment doesn't tell you to go out and kill the infidels.
>>76625886
Ideology tends to influence people quite heavily. Tools are just there to help people do things more effectively, they won't influence a man's actions on their own. It's not exactly difficult to make your own projectile weapon either, guns aren't some sort of magical artifacts forged from pixie dust and evil.
>>76626089
/thread
>>76626384
Wake me when federal agents and politicians are being shot on a daily basis. No wait, don't wake me.
>>76626089
>>76626266
>>76626279
>this gun that kills people shouldn't be banned but this 'ideology' that does the same thing should!
Goes to show how retarded conservatards really are
>>76626583
911 & boston marathon were done without guns? the common denominator is islam
>>76626583
The gun doesn't kill people. The faggot holding it does.
Again, you are a fucking dumbass.
>>76626384
>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms to shoot anyone they don't like, shall not be infringed."
Ah I found the version you're quoting!
>>76626458
It technically does give you the right to kill an oppressive gubmint. Americans literally think they're cowboys in some fairy tale. The message of the founders has been perverted by the radical right.
>>76626550
case in point
>>76626583
The ideology persuades people to do so
Simply having a gun doesnt make you want to kill faggot
>>76626458
Neither does the Quran
>>76626583
>Make statement.
>Get proven wrong.
>still saying that statement for attention.
Baiting is ruining this board.
>>76625886
>OPs mom suck nigger dicks
>OP is a son of a bitch
What's wrong with that logic?
>>76626583
You don't know if I am conservative
you don't know if I support guns
you don't know if I am against Islam.
You can't even read from what I make out of your post.
An ideology and an object are not the same thing, what's so hard to understand?
>>76626802
Simply having the Islamic ideology doesn't convince you to kill people. How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?
>>76626789
forces must be equal
>>76626765
>t.strawman
>>76626929
They are, daily.
>>76625886
You seem to be confusing ideology with weaponry.
>one is an inanimate object with no will or thought
>the other is an ideology with thinking and functioning individuals that promotes the killing of their enemies
>>76625886
Islam doesn't kill people. Muslims kill people. Ban muslims.
Stupid libtards can't into simple ecuations.
>>76626789
No, the message from the founders is still the exact same. We're allowed to have firearms for the purpose of defending America from all threats foreign and domestic.
Shall not be infringed was deliberate.
>>76626821
The Islamic Hadiths do. Can't be Muslim without following those too.
>>76626929
>How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?
Highly doubtful.
>>76626929
>How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?
They are lazy and don't follow Islam very well? It would be inconvenient to act on their supposed beliefs.
If guns don't kill people, the guns win.
>>76627009
Religion kills people, not just Islam. But we can't ban it because muhh tradition, muhh legacy muhh ancestors etc.
>>76626965
Again, as others have asked you to do, please point out how something that doesn't say what I quoted and instead says "Here is a natural right we won't fuck with" is the same as a book/philosophy that commands adherents to kill those who don't join up.
Nowhere does the Second Amendment exhort readers to kill those who think guns should be removed/regulated. There are no "technical" rights.
>>76626720
Islam doesn't kill people. The terrorist using it does
Who's the dumbass now, conservacuck?
>>76626821
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
>>76626929
Not all of them are obviously, but there are some who disobay the Quran and do not kill infidels 9:5
>>76626821
The Quran literally tells you to kill infedels, gays, apostates, atheists, and basically anyone who disagrees with islam or isnt muslim. It is used by many terrorist organizations as a justification for their violence
>>76626583
You can own a firearm in a peaceful manor
you cannot be a good Muslim in a peaceful manor
>>76627121
>You can infringe on my other rights but not muh guns!
>>76626963
No, there are either 1. The Ruler(s) of a nation
2. The ruled
everything else is illusion. You think you have power, but the rest of the world is laughing at this country and rightfully so.
>>76627229
terrorist motivation stems from their religion
>>76627213
Take this (You)
Feel better now?
>>76625886
Guns have the ability to kill, they don't tell you to kill.
Islam tells you to kill people.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them".
Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"
uran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."
Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who kill those whom disbelieve in His cause"
Muslim (31:5918) - "I will fight them until they are like us." Ali's reply to Muhammad, after receiving clarification that the attack Khaibar on was to convert the people.
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
>>76627253
muh context
You see, unbelievers of the time were all literally spawns of satan so it was alright to kill them.
>>76627229
The terrorist following it kills people because he was told to wage holy war by his religious leaders.
So yes, Islam is at total fault.
>>76627319
Without guns you cannot defend your rights from worthless foreigners who come into your great country and start trying to change it into the shithole that they came from.
If you don't like guns you aren't American and really need to get the fuck out before we throw your ass into the ocean.
ITT: skooling leftists
>>76627326
51st state tier
>>76626789
Like you understand the message of the founders. You're a corrupt leftist traitor who will bend over and invite fascism into America without a second thought.
>>76627527
>>76627326
Terrorists are forced to turn to extremism because of the imperialism of fucking white countries. Learn some history retards
>>76627798
Islam has been committing what we would call "terrorism" for 1600 years, the entire time its been around.
Then let's just ban people!
>>76627319
The US literally has a gun for every man woman and child, if only 10% of the country picked up arms and fought against the government they would be on Capital Hill declaring the New Republic the week after. We are ruled but the people have a way of fucking up the rulers when shit hits the fan, unlike Europe who jusy gets cucked by Big Brother EU
>>76627367
I'll feel better when the Abrahamic faiths are removed from this planet so we can finally live Star Trek reality.
Do you really think you are more civilized than Muslims? Deep down in your heart you know you are all the same.
>>76627527
>If you don't like guns you aren't American
>need to get the fuck out before we throw your ass into the ocean.
>2nd Amendment trumps the first
You people are disillusioned to no end. The 2nd amendment shouldn't even have to be exercised in this day and age, you fucking mongs just need to vote better.
Which will never happen btw
You will lose all your other rights and still think you are free with that semi-auto pee shooter you call a weapon.
>>76625886
Guns aren't people
Muslims (arguably) are
>>76627798
>what are the Barbary wars
wew lad
>>76627798
so 911 was whiteys fault?
>>76626870
everything puny hooman
Islam is a fanatical cult, so yes, it should be banned
>>76625886
>ban muslims
There, fixed it for you dumbass.
>>76627944
Christianity has been committing what we would call "genocide" for 2016 years, the entire time it's been around, you see the fault in your logic?
>>76625886
We're going to wipe out every single one of you sandnigger mudslimes, don't you worry.
>>76628046
>>76628038
>>76627944
Ever heard of the crusades? What about Israel? White people have been attacking muslims since ever, of course they'll retaliate eventually, even if they are peace-loving people
>>76625886
If you think you're anti-gun, you're not really anti-gun because guns will be required to force people to hand over their guns.
So really you're not against guns, you just think it would be better if only the government has them.
...because governments have shown us time and again how much we can trust them when they're the only ones with the guns, right?
>>76628224
this guy is saying 911 was justified...
>>76627798
A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>76628224
Too obvious
>>76627073
By that logic we shouldnt ban guns, just ban people with guns. I love it!
>>76625886
>>guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't ban guns
Guns by themselves do not kill people.
Also, the Jews are behind gun control.
>>Islam causes death! Ban Islam
Islam should be banned because it's a non-White and anti-White religion.
>Fucking conservatard logic
Well it's a good thing I'm a National Socialist then.
Conservatives are just as bad as liberals.
>>76627009
yeah like, just today i killed that salad, but not that pork, cause I don't eat pigs
>>76628224
>crusades happened a thousand years ago
>they're just now retaliating
That's not how things work faggot
Also the crusades were to defend people from muslims even though the crusaders were edgy evil fags
>>76625886
>guns kill people
>Islam is religion of peace
>weapons in the hands of Islamists fire themselves
librul logic
By the way, what you have presented is not an argument, newfriend.
Nobody is saying "ban Islam"
>>76628350
aren't you supposed to be fasting?
reported to the sharia patrol
>>76628139
Actually, Christianity has done things that are as bad as Muslims, yes. The difference being they stopped committing terrible acts for the most part, meanwhile, Muslims have never stopped.
Your "2016 years" shit doesn't make sense, because Christians are not the ones committing terrorist acts nearly every day and having wars in the name of Christianity and have not done so in a very long time. Even if this does happen, not that many people ever agree with it. 1 in 4 muslims think suicide bombing is sometimes justified.
I'm a fucking atheist and even I can see the clear difference between Muslims and Christians. Yes, religion is a cancer upon the earth and usually leads people to do immoral things, etc but Christians these days hardly listen to the book at all, hence they stopped doing many of the terrible things it would tell them to. Muslims however still listen to the Quran and everything it tells them for the most part.
>>76625886
sounds logical to me
>>76627466
yeah like compairing the nazis with the red khmer, very well, very clever,
drumpfling
>>76628480
>Nobody is saying "ban Islam"
I am. I totally am.
Ban Islam!
See? I said it.
No, I'm not being ironic or edgy. I honestly believe Islam should be banned from White countries.
>>76626089
Blown the fuck out within two posts. God, I'm so glad that being a liberal has become cringeworthy and embarrassing.
>>76627798
No one forced them to do shit, it's what they've been doing since the beginning of Islam.
>>76628013
Don't like it, get the fuck out, Europe loves people like you.
>>76628602
>drumpfling
GTFO back to durka durka land, Mehmet. Deutschland ist und bleibt Drumpf.
>>76625886
Cool Analogy Ahmed!!!
>>76628602
>Have no argument
>Get humiliated by facts
>Scramble, huu huu huu drumpf
God you're so pathetic. All leftists are. To have such contempt for facts, you're like Creationists.
>>76625886
Islam is people.
>>76628742
>Don't like it, get the fuck out
Much freedom, many liberteenz
>>76628224
You need to watch a documentary series called Holy War.
Muslims have always done terrible things. You're talking about things Christians do that are hundreds of years apart each time, meanwhile Muslims have been doing violent things non stop since it began.
Do you not have any fucking clue about when Muslims/The moors went into Africa from the middle east, converted them all to Muslims then sailed thousands ships to Europe from Africa to try take over Europe by giving Christian Europeans the ultimatum "Convert or die"? There were massive wars because of this.
You only listen to your leftist echo chamber and don't seem to try research anything on your own.
>>76625886
wow
imbecile.
>>76628508
lol i'm no muslim, but i know some: some of them eat pig and some do not do any fasting.. but thats none of my buissnes
>>76628480
This. We just dont want them in our countrys, expecially when THEY are the ones that want's to ban our culture and our ways while forcing Sharia and their own shitty ways (that made everything turn to shit in the first place) upon us all. They can continue on worshipping their blood god in their own shitholes and kill eachothers for all I care, just get the fuck out from Europe.
>>76628164
>See non-argument
Treason is not free speech.
>>76625886
Eh, Islam can stay for all I care. I'm also fine with just banning all Muslims :^)
>>76628224
Crusades were a form of retaliation for the never ending muslim invasion of the western world.
As soon as Islam was created they started savaging, pigaging and conquering. There's been nothing else they've done, that's what's been passed generation after generation: conquer.
>>76628013
The guns are just for a worst case scenario, we still vote and many try to keep our rights intact without violence, but both libs and republicans just seem to want to fuck us over and its kinda our fault because we let them, especially with the presidents and their executive actions
Make a list of all the things Islam forbids. Now make a list of all the things Christianity forbids.
Make a list of all the angels and demons in Islam. Now make a list of all the Christian ones.
Fuck, when will Christians and Muslims learn they are just a rehash of Judaism. At least Zoroastrians were unique with that fire worshipping shit.
>>76628856
You have the freedom to leave if you can't live here without trying to remove our rights.
You don't have a right to be safe.
>>76625886
Right she may be, but it doesn't matter. I'll explain why.
I'm for strict gun control because I believe in the benefits of state power, but Hillary is lying. As President, she'll do anything she can to jeopardize any attempts at gun grabbing. See, in the USA, the government is there to ensure maximum market domination for American businesses, and without the extremely lucrative market of American households buying firearms, those pesky German ingrates would be one big leap closer to becoming the undisputed #1 in international arms sales. There's absolutely no way either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would allow that to happen.
>>76628849
Islam is a shitty mix of a vulgar, primitive and violent culture / religion you dipshit.
>>76625886
Not all fingers are thumbs but all thumbs are fingers.
Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorist are muslims.
Fight me.
>>76628847
how can you speak about gettig humilliatad by facts, you should drown in shame
"She's right you know" is the cheesiest fucking meme. Makes me laugh with how awful it is.
>>76628847
what is i told you, being antifascist does not mean you are left, it just means you are sain
you can be anticommi and republican and still would be a very very good antifascist
>>76628953
>>76629026
The first amendment is more powerful than the second, if you're blind to that fact then please don't vote. PLEASE DON'T VOTE
>>76629012
this breddy much
>>76629094
Why is this even getting replies? Comparing a militaristic religious ideology to an inanimate object is fucking retarded and doesn't even deserve a response.
>/pol/ is this easy to bait now
What the fuck happened?
>>76628969
at least you are not racist
>>76629012
Have you seen what is going on in europe and in the ME mate? Since the guns exist, we could (fucking should) use them to prevent the worst case scenario from ever happening because when it does, it will all be too late.
>>76625886
>ban Islam
Nobody is saying this
Ban foreign Muslims from entering the country
>>76625886
>Ideology = an object
OP = faggot retard
Not that agree with banning islam
>>76629328
US presidential election shilling did a number on this once so resilient user base. It wasn't this bad last time.
>>76629444
>Nobody is saying this
>>76628614
>>76628702
only on underage echochambers like /pol/.
>>76628321
No because you're not comparing apples with apples.
You have three factors in this ecuation.
People + ideology + item.
Your ecuation is People + X + guns = A ban
My ecuation is People + Islam + Y = B ban
In my case Y's value is zero, since my formula is people + islam = ban.
Now you need to find X to justify A ban or else you're saying people with items need to be banned.
I hope you love getting educated, it's never too late.
>>76629375
>>76628969
>>76629676
(You)
>>76629267
I'm not giving up guns either and will fight for them as they actually do have more power.
Speech stops being useful when our leaders stop listening. I'm sick of the stupid way our country is now run and would prefer nationalism to free speech. Give the citizens something to live for rather than being a beacon to attract all of the world's trash. The experiment failed due to parasites abusing the system.
>>76626821
Literally says to strike infidels on their necks aka behead them
>>76626384
>You have right to bare arms
>Muh ideology
This shit ensures your freedom. It doesn't even order you to get one.
>>76625886
>>76626583
>>76627229
>>76627798
>>76628224
this guy should get v&
>>76625886
guns dont teach you to shoot people and that there are others who are lesser than you and its ok to dehumanize them for not following your beliefs
nice strawman
>guns are an object not an ideology
>b-but don't take away my object! It's my RIGHT to own one cuz I don't think governments should control that (as if that isn't an ideology lol)
>>76625886
Not a logical argument. Just like how "cars kill people, lol ban cars" isn't an argument because they serve different purposes.
You can just kill people without reading Quaran.
I like it.
>>76629757
your comic is so wrong, you are a disgrace
>>76630500
>I don't know what ideology is, the post.
>I can't understand that guns don't control the way I think, but religion does.
Wew lad.
>>76630621
lol you're right. They get called racist for just being white, they don't have to say anything to cause it.
>>76630621
I'll be sure to keep that in mind the next time something like Paris happens
>people harboring islamic terrorists in Paris
>no one wants to call them out for it for fear of being labeled a racist
>over 100 people killed or injured later
>a-a-at least we weren't racist
>>76625886
A gun is a tool. Islam is a domineering mental virus. A gun does nothing by itself, somebody thinking uses it. An Islamist is a thinking person that uses a gun.
>>76630872
that's fals too, nobody is getting called rascist because they are white, and if so the individuals that do (does not matter how many) are insane
>>76625886
False equivalence: the post
OP kys
if anyone who can remember back to the Boston marathon happening, and were able to read through those guys' twitter accounts..
there would be no uncertainty as to how much Islam influenced those two to do what they did.
>>76627466
https://youtu.be/xI2OBylwl0k
>>76625886
Islam has no place in the western world. That's why I want it to be banned.
>>76628224
>Muh Crusades
>Ended over 700 years ago
So in your mind, what's the expiration date on historic grievances? If 700 years isn't enough time to recover and move on as a society, what is? Should the Italians go to war with Germany because of what the Visigoths did to Rome? Hell, Muslims started launching wars of conquest in 632 under the Rashidun caliphate, and 661 under the Umayyad caliphate. So of course Christians retaliated eventually, even if they are a peace-loving people.
>>76625886
My gun isn't worshiping a pedophile that condones itself blowing up
>>76627285
>Manor
>>76631650
>>76631049
>Islam is a domineering mental virus.
I wonder what the antidote is. Christians convert more readily than muslims. To doubt allah is an unforgivable sin in islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-L1KIU7lao
>>76625886
Apparently you can't into logic..
A gun is a tool.. if a normal person wields it, nobody gets hurt except if a bad guy tries to attack the person with the gun.. It doesn't make sense to ban this, because this would ban self defense against criminals with guns. Making you extremely vulnerable.
Islam is a political ideology that brainwashes people into picking up guns and use them in a mental patient way offensively to kill a whole lot of people simply for being kuffar/infidels/not muslims/not muslim enough.. It makes sense to ban this.
So now i am curious, did you even think to run the patterns of your logic through before saying "oh shit i'm a genius" and posting this erroneous garbage? Because you ought to have.
>>76631689
pretty comfy looking. The electrical work and plumbing are most likely absolute shit though.
>>76631595
Religion that advocates stoning women and lashes for leaving the house is pretty degenerate no matter how much people on this board hate them.
>>76625886
>>76631768
does the muslim world condemn bacha bazi? how about when their priests molest, are their faces plastered around and are they shunned from their communities?
>>76631560
see
>>76628511
Christians don't really follow the book anymore. Muslims do.
Muslims have a built in system to the Quran though that if you stop believing in it, other Muslims are supposed to kill you - and because of that a lot of Muslim countries have it written into law that you can be killed for apostasy (which is to leave Islam). Christianity does not take the book as seriously as Muslims take their book.
>>76631768
A priest molesting someone has literally nothing to do with guns.
>>76632016
That's a people problem, not a religion problem. A lot of it is a result of Middle Eastern nationalism and their genes.
You basically just proved OP's point. People kill people, not religion.
>>76625886
Oh my god, you stupid nigger.
>>76631977
I don't know. Are they? How would I know? I don't live there. Do you?
>>76631289
>does not matter how many
Oh how convenient. If we ignore cases of white people being called racist for simply existing, they suddenly are none.
>>76632127
The religion tells people to kill people. If you do not follow the Quran, it tells other Muslims to kill you.
The religion tells people to kill and with the false safe of "If you don't listen, you will be killed by other Muslims" people do not stop taking it seriously. Christians do not follow the book strictly and other Christians do not kill that person if they don't follow it correctly.
>>76625886
Islam doesn't kill people. Muslims kill people.
>>76632241
there*
>>76625886
These things perfectly coincide dummy, and if an ideology causes death thousands of times over for centuries on end. There's problems within it
I already know this is bait stop shitposting
>>76632317
Who do you think tells people to follow the Quran? If you take the book away from them, terrorist shills will still plant propaganda in their brains.
It's silly to act like a dumb book is responsible for the deaths for countless people. What makes the Quran worse than the Bible exactly? Answer: people.
>>76625886
kek
>>76625886
>muslims commit terrorist attacks at a higher frequency globally than any other group post 9/11
>demand more muslims be let into europe and america because if you dont it would create more terrorist in the middle east who couldnt get into the west
faggot liberal logic
>demand illegals get to stay because if you deport them it will drive up the price of food
>demand they become U.S citizens for the sake of election results which would nullify the original justification for letting them stay because they would have to be paid minimum wage
liberals suffering from syphilis who have not been tested because they think the people they fuck on tender "look healthy"
>>76625886
i don't see how those 2 things contradict each other, muslims are people
>>76632946
>muslims are people
Blasphemy.
>>76625886
>Certain people kill people
>Muslims are certain people
>DER WHY BAN MUSLIMS
Woman Logic
>>76632536
>Who do you think tells people to follow the Quran?
The Quran tells people to follow the Quran under punishment of death. If you take the book away and phased out Islam from the middle east, maybe in about 500 years they would change to be better people. Islam is literally the problem and it's obvious you have never read the book. Check out "The Quran Reloaded", atheists reading it on YouTube if you're a lazy fuck and can't be bothered reading a copy yourself. They also did "The Bible Reloaded" before they did the Quran, they constantly point out the differences. After personally having read the Quran before watching them, its just like listening to comedy to me.
The Quran is much worse than the bible. Especially because of its fail safe of "You have to listen or else the other followers will murder you". The bible only has "If you don't listen you will go to hell".
>>76625886
The 2nd doesn't require you to kill people; in Islam it is mandatory for you to kill people. If you're a Muslim and don't kill people then you're not following Allah's teachings and therefore not a true muslim.
>>76627319
Will invade
>>76627326
And annex them
>>76633484
burgers already using our backyard to rotate marines and nsa satelite stuff
>>76633219
I don't know how you can think this.
If all it took was a book to stir violence, I'm sure the world would be a much worse place.
It's their culture and race. No book can change these.
>>76628013
>>2nd amndment trumps the first
Second Amendment was made to defend the rest of the rights we have, you liberal shit.
>>76626053
Why are you so racist, homophobe, you bigot. You know all homophobes are secretly gays?
And if you don't like borscht you are secretly borscht!
>>76633743
Are you a teenager? Books do stir violence.
The Bible, The Quran, The Communist Manifesto?
>>76625886
Wrong, it is
>Ban the people who adhere to Islam
It is people who are inherently evil not guns.
>>76630879
no one wants to call them out for it for fear of being labeled a racist>> this is a lie
the french don't want terrorist thats why most of them are also against racists, don't mix up the order
>>76634043
after nord-ost, how can you joke about this?
>>76625886
>its my second amendment right as a citizen in a free society to own a firearm
>the constitution and bill if rights makes no mention of immigrants with a belief system that takes precedence over "man made" laws, to be allowed to stay in the country
nice strawman
>>76626053
it was the men
>>76627798
>"Terrorists are forced to turn to extremism because of the imperialism of fucking white countries."
>What are barbary wars?
>What are islamic/ottoman invasions of Europe?
>What are caliphate invasions of Persia?
>What are caliphate of Africa?
>What is pic related?
Kek, sand people are literally untermensch tier people.
>>76626384
You're kidding, right?
>>76625886
People use guns to kill people
Islam commands people to kill eachother
>>76634058
Those books only play a small role in cultural revolutions.
Even still, most of these nations have ultimately been revived to their default state i.e. Renaissance / Cold War.
>>76625886
You are tied to a chair in a dark and lonely room.
You can choose to have a fully-loaded AR 15, by itself in the corner or a rabid Mussie.
Which do you think will do more harm to you?
Kill yourself, mong.
>>76634352
but what if they're not men?
>>76629743
You're wrong edukation is wrong. Your Y = radicalism. Why the fuck do you asshole pretend like there aren't Muslims who just want to own a gas station instead of blowing up people?
>>76634729
Cause the exception is not the rule you retard.
>>76627982
Well. It helps we live in a democracy, with crime rates that are a LOT lower the in USA.
Have fun getting cucked by oligarchs, while dodging all of the mass shootings, burger.
>>76626583
Ideology = Motivation
Do guns have the ability to motivate themselves to shoot on their own?
>>76626583
>guns kill people
No matter how much you try you can never convince a gun to kill people
The Koran literally says terrorize and kill infidels and people terrorize and kill infidels with or without guns.
Islam is the problem.
>>76636549
"Okay Koran, kill somebody"
>>76636596
You can convince a muslim to kill someone. It happens all the time.
>>76636596
Quit being retarded.
If you can't understand that an ideology sways people's actions, where as a gun cannot, you just need to stop posting.
No, the Koran doesn't kill people. The ideas inside of it, along with the Hadiths, do.
>>76635453
>Have fun getting cucked by oligarchs
>Lives in the EU
lol, okay. Wait a few years. Enjoy being less free, and having less of a future.
>>76627229
>using Islam
The correct grammar is FOLLOWING Islam as in following Islamic teachings of which these teachings promote killing infidels while guns don't promote anything.
>muh Koran doesn't say kill infidels
TFW people are ignorant of the Hadith
If you're not killing infidels you're a false believer in Islam.
>>76627984
We Christians have a moral code which makes us not barbarians and our faith in God gives us great reason to study the marvels of God's great creations resulting in scientific advancement.
Meanwhile Atheists are arrogant idiots who keep throwing shit theories at a wall hoping something sticks despite everything being almost completely unscientific just because they have such disdain for the mere idea of a God existing that's better than them.
Agnostic or gtfo
liberals would put the gun in prison, instead of the shooter
>>76637797
God: "Lol hey guy, if you really love me so much how about you take your son up to a mountain and kill him for me with a dagger"
Guy: "What? Really? Well... Alright... If you really want me to"
*brings son up to mountain while son begs his father not to kill him, then they arrive and guy about to drive dagger into sons stomach"
God: "Lol JK! I can't believe you almost killed your son for me! ROFL"
So moral.
>>76638050
>Ozzie thinks a story in the Bible is the same thing as present-day Christian's moral code
Boy, I'm atheist and even I understand how much of a dumbass you are.
>>76638519
I'm commenting on the fact Christians try to say "Well I don't believe a lot of the stuff really happened, I more see it as a moral code".
The book isn't morally right at all in nearly every situation kid.
>>76638630
>I'm commenting on the fact Christians try to say
No, you were commenting on Canadabro just saying "We Christians have a moral code."
Ask him if he takes the Bible literally as his moral compass; I'm CERTAIN you will find yourself to be wrong.
Even my grandmother, who was a hardcore Italian Catholic, wasn't that dense.
You're trying to push YOUR stupidity onto others.
What's wrong with this logic??? Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Solution: put people in jail; not guns. Criminals and undesirables are locked away.
Islam doesn't kill peoeple; people kill people.
Solution? Arrest terrorists, before or after attacks.
Conservatives dislike Islam for reasons other than terrorism.
>>76638994
So if they don't believe the book and they also don't see it as a moral code, why do they follow it then?
Trust me, I'm not the stupid one here.
>>76625886
>Fucking conservatard logic
You know that an ideology is different from a tool, right?
>>76639232
>Trust me, I'm not the stupid one here.
Yeah, you really are.
The majority don't believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible stories. You are trying to make it all literal, and then trying to claim,
>herpaderp, this is what all Christians believe.
They do believe in the abstract concepts, usually of the New Testament (that God is kind and loving and all that crap).
Have you even ever spoken with a Christian?
>>76639592
You just avoided my question.
What is the point of "Believing an abstract concept" of the bible?
Yes, I've spoken to them and they either say they believe what happened and the bible is truth or they say they know the stories are made up, but they see it as a moral code to live by rather than the truth. That's why I fucking said it boy.
>>76639748
>You just avoided my question.
>What is the point of "Believing an abstract concept" of the bible?
I didn't. You didn't ask that, as far as I can see.
In my opinion, there -is- not point. Like I said, I'm an atheist, and I don't see any point. Maybe there is one and I just can't see it, I don't know. But I don't think there is a point.
>>76639748
>they know the stories are made up, but they see it as a moral code
Oh, gee, sounds to me like when they say "I know it's made up" it means they realize...
You guessed it!
That it's not to be taken literally.
>Boy
>kid
This projection.
>>76640163
You continously keep skipping over the part where they say its a moral code, which is what my first post you responded to was entirely about you dimwitted child.
Islam does not cause death, Muslims cause death.
Muslims are kind of like people, and people kill people, so they are dangerous and should be glassed.
>>76640376
>You continously keep skipping over the part where they say its a moral code
I've not skipped over a damned thing.
I've addressed it in every one of my posts.
It's what we've been talking about.
Jesus, first you claim I didn't answer a question you didn't ask, now you claim we've not been talking about the Bible as a tool for moral guidance.
This is why I'm calling you a retard. You can't fucking read.
>>76636890
>>76636952
>No matter how much you try you can never convince a gun to kill people
Please fuck off
>>76625886
>Islam did let kill those people, the muslims did.
Trump wants to ban mualims.
#rightsideofhistory
>>76625886
Are you subjecting to ban blacks? Because it will work, you know.
>inb4 not all blacks
>>76625886
You're right we shouldnt ban islam we should ban muslims
>>76641175
>>No matter how much you try you can never convince a gun to kill people
>Please fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hB5ROWdw4Q&ab_channel=BrandonMorse
>>76625886
People don't kill people BECAUSE of guns
People do kill people BECAUSE of Islam
But fuck it
you're too retarded to understand that
Just an Hero right now and save us from listening to you any more.
What's up with all these /pol/ and conservashits BTFO threads. They seem so pretentious.
>>76625886
>because an object alone can't kill people, a toxic culture of violence and martyrdom can't kill people either
Wanna try make sense next time?
>>76642409
He said it, not me.
You can't convince a gun to kill someone, you can't convince the Quran to kill someone
