Iñigo Errejón, the turbo faggot 14 yr old looking fag vice president of Podemos (pic related) said venezuelan lines in front of the supermarkets were created by the high consumption capacity obtained thanks to Chavez economic policies.
And these mongoloids are going to take care of my country? Why are spaniards so retarded?
Translated link to the interview:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.correodelorinoco.gob.ve/entrevistas/%25E2%2580%259Cel-aumento-capacidad-consumo-es-producto-revolucion-bolivariana%25E2%2580%259D/
Is Podemos the most retarded political party in europe?
>>76610251
They sure are loving the economic grow!
I just read the ibterview and its disgracefull, podemos will surely sink Spain
>Errejón attributed the long lines at shops near appliances for several reasons. One is obvious: "There is more money available," there is "a democratization of access to consumption. Now people can consume more. "
JUST
bump, why nobody is interested in Spain's downfall?
Because it's the same as everywhere else. I'm surprised that marxism got so much attention in Spain and Italy. Poland is a catholic country as well and marxism was and is pretty much non existent here
Start preparing for mass famine
>>76612247
Poland had a pretty big taste of communism for decades. Spain and Italy, not as much. Communism is fashionable to faggots who never lived under it.
>>76612247
Spanish catholics fell hard for the wellfare state meme, Polandbro, we are doomed
>>76611824
>downfall
You can't fall from the bottom, m8
oye no me jodas hombre, quiero visitar salamanca en diciembre antes de que espana esta completamente arruinada
podeis aguantar?
>>76612520
kek, wait and see, I just want to go to the US after Trump victory
>>76612626
no
no vengas
necesitamos una cruzada ya
deus vult
>>76612626
YERROW PIGGU GO HOME!!!!
Military took over here because people were selling their votes and didn't give a shit what happened. I can only imagine what would happen here if some candidate proposed communism.
I guess the average folk could ask the Cambodians or the Laotians, but they wouldn't tell the truth.
Feel for ya Spaniard, but we just need a few more examples before people remember for a couple decades and then forget again a couple decades later.
>>76612498
What I mean is that marxism was never popular here. Even before communism. Communists before the war were jailed here
>>76612512
It's not a matter of the welfare state. Welfare state is fine within the catholic social teaching which is what Solidarity stood for and is the idea that gets more and more attention here in Poland
In Poland nobody falls for the class war meme. That sort of division doesn't exist
It's just that you ceased to be catholic. I don't know where that comes from though because as I said, there has never been really any strong anticatholic movement here, comparable to that in Spain, Portugal or Italy
>>76613193
I think the situations will be vastly different.
When there is no money or resources to begin with it sounds like a horrible idea to almost anyone. Now if you have those resources it starts to sound like a good idea to people with half a brain, but those people will eventually learn. Just gotta let it happen in these cases.
>>76613597
Please, marxism and liberalism were already popular in Portugal and Spain when they were as poor as Poland. Poland is immune to marxism
>>76613769
Lol
False
>>76613769
To begin with they were better off, much better off, but they probably didn't have the same set of human resources.
>>76613769
I'm not gonna tell you how things are in your country, but I once thought the same about the US, and now look at us. Never think you are immune. Eternal vigilance is required against the red menace.
>>76612498
Well said anon. People who have lived under commie shit know the truth.
Pic related
>>76614251
I've met people in trade and professional jobs from all across the world and working in the states.
They want to work in the US! Elect someone who taxes the shit out of people and hands out gibs like candy and that will change overnight.
IT'S NEAR
>>76614403
>people who lived under commie shit know the truth
Idiots: "yeah but they just didn't implement it right or have the right leaders".
>>76611390
the same "democratization" bullshit policy is happening here. Apparently subsidizing EVERYTHING is democratization, having no entry exams to public universities is also democratization.
>>76614834
So what wavelength on this LGBT chart are Spaniards worried about?
>>76612640
Must feel bad, as everyone will probably think you're some stupid mexican
>>76615003
Everyone really. Purple are the worst.
The question is: what is better for us now, a slow decline or a quick decline?
>>76614834
purple, like a prolapsed anal wound
![tumblr_mi14v4Gpm11rqkjmno1_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/xVr67e2.gif "tumblr_mi14v4Gpm11rqkjmno1_500[1].gif")
>>76612520
Started from the botton and we're still here.
>>76615076
Even if they racially profile me as such I have no worries because I'm a richfag and don't need to cope with the usual social relations.
fellow spaniardbros, what country will you go to if Podemos get the power?
>>76614251
USA is founded on liberalism, so you only had to wait for liberalism to play out. And liberalism in some areas overlaps marxism
>>76614100
>Lol
>False
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_October_1910_revolution#Anticlericalism
>>76615640
US under Trump is the only solution, If Hillary wins we can commit suicide together
>>76615796
>inb4 you build the wall
>>76615640
Nowhere. I will stay here and see what happens.
>>76615076
Actually there are zones in America with some spanish culture and a bunch of spaniards. Once americans learn the difference they treat us like any other med.
>>76610251
What is wrong with him? Does he have some weird disease to make him look like that? A hormone disorder?
>>76615640
This is why Spain will sink.
There's only two kinds of people: the ones that want to destroy the country and the ones that want to leave it behind.
Only old people have any bonding with the motherland.
>>76616153
Low Test
>>76615796
>America
>needing more spics
>>76616062
>Mexican=smelly Indio peasant
>Spaniard=fruity gay snob from a dead nation
>>76616153
He looks like a teen, a teen that would fuck up your entire economy.
Pic related: Errejon and Iglesias when they were punks
>>76616062
A blind potato might have a problem telling the difference initially.
>>76616409
Good memed, keep it up.
>>76610251
Wow, I look younger than I am. I always thought this would ruin me from having a political carrier.
Thanks, Spain! For making me believe in myself.
>>76616409
And you're a descendant from what almighty nation?
>>76616358
>implying US don't love richfag spics
>implying ching-chong scandinavians can cope with my mediterranean power
>>76616685
He is 33 years old
>>76616772
shh shitskin. White people are talking
>>76616773
>mediterranean power
Spain not included*
>>76616817
He looks really good for his age. Like I said, I look very young. B-But my hairline is receding a bit. I'm fucking doomed.
>>76616894
Now i see a reason for romania hating hungary
>>76616842
I'm of European descent I'll have (you) know!
No brownie here.
>>76617161
>I'm of European
Russian?
>>76617110
>Romanians
AHAHAHAHA
>>76617161
I always fap to these pepe penis pics
they are hot
>>76617351
Pretty gay, desu.
You're the type of faggot who loves all the Somali cawk entering your country.
>>76617274
Pretty much a mutt including everything but Mediterranean and Balkan countries.
>>76617396
/pol/ is a gay board
majority of us likes traps
and yes, Somalis have big dicks
>>76617511
>Pretty much a mutt including everything but the best ethnicities
>>76617625
M8, get therapy.
>>76616894
I'm balding hard and I think it is irrelevant, so don't worry, you can be a bald bitter manlet and still be considered one of the most amanzing figures in your century, pic related
>>76616894
This must really hurt romania in their ongoing feud with hungary
>>76617396
What's wrong with him liking something you don't like?
>>76617747
I know. It's not the balding that gets me.
It's the balding with a baby face.
Also, I'm not the next Picasso. I'm not the next anything. I'm a lonely guy who never leaves his house.
>>76617793
Romania is a shithole and no one likes them. There is no feud, at least no feud I can about, because Romania is irrelevant. They can try to act like their problems matter but they don't. Because they don't matter.
>>76617874
Subversions harm the whole of society. One person's ills become societal ills.
>>76618043
do you have a beard?
>>76617701
>Balkan Slavs and Latin peoples are the 'best' ethnicities.
>>76610251
How old is this guy? He really does look 14
>>76615655
Look up marxism
>>76618113
Nope. Can't really grow one.
>>76618159
Latins are the best
Real Latins, none of that Mexican bullshit.
>>76618235
33.
>>76618292
there is nothing wrong with marxism
>>76618298
Well, probably you will look fuckable in your 40's while all your friends will have wrinkles and old look, and rememeber, there is allways a way to use your look in your favour!
>>76617747
>>76616894
I'm balding. At first I thought I was lost, but now I like it.
Vote VOX, guys. They literally want to Make Spain Great Again.
https://youtu.be/RaSIX4-RPAI
>>76618504
>friends
...
>there is allways a way to use your look in your favour!
Like?
>>76618520
Pics?
>>76618043
>>76618298
If you have access to the sun, get tanned. It will solve the baby face problem more than a good beard would.
>>76610251
>created by the high consumption capacity obtained thanks to Chavez economic policies.
Well that would explain the morbid obesity...
>>76618395
fucking marxist snow chinamen
>>76618640
>get tanned.
I'm of Mediterranean descent. Tanned year round.
Need to be out in the sun for mere minutes to get tanner.
>>76618298
You wouldn't happen to be from New Jersey, be of Italian descent, going bald from constantly styling your hair in a 'blow out' a using steroids?
No, I'm just going to guess you're just a generic shit talker from moms basement who can't get out and make shit happen himself.
I only post on here when I'm drunk, which is quite often, but I actually go out and get shit done.
Just bulk up and shave it all off.
>>76618868
>New Jersey
Nah
> be of Italian descent
Yes
>constantly styling your hair
Nah
>using steroids?
Nah
>No, I'm just going to guess you're just a generic shit talker from moms basement who can't get out and make shit happen himself.
Sorta correct. Third floor, not basement.
>Just bulk up and shave it all off.
Considering it.
>>76610251
I would say that's insulting venezuelan's intelligence but it's 84 so..
>>76618618
I'm not going to upload a pic of myself here. I'm a NW 3-4, more or less. Buzz or short. You choose.
>>76618531
vox is too socialist and traditionalist for me
>>76618618
Come on faggot, you will have friends in the future even if you have nothing right now.
Also, dress manly and classy.
>>76618520
Los calvos somos inferiormente superiores
>>76610251
Podemos is basically financed by Venezuela and Iran. Did you really think the donations from members is what keeps it going? What did you expect?
>>76619034
And it worked for you? Shaving it all?
>>76619066
>Come on faggot, you will have friends in the future even if you have nothing right now.
Y-You're a faggot.
And I wouldn't be too sure.
>>76619001
No better time than today.
The longer you wait the harder it becomes.
>>76619271
It depends how bald you are. But you should buzzed it once to see how it looks.
Actually now I don't have my hair buzzed, just short.
>>76619271
Shave yourself and the balding problem will instantly disappear.
Why don'y you have any friends? Are you a neet?
>>76619219
It is exactly what I expected since they are payed to have that particular opinion, I'm just scared to death about the possibility of being governed by them.
Breaking News: Spain and Thailand give America advice on how to be a man and deal with balding. The weather coming up after that.
>>76619449
>how bald you are
Have a bald spot but hair is long enough to hide it.
I'm worried that it's just gonna keep getting worse and recede more and more. One side of my family keeps their hair well into their 90s. The other is bald around 50 with a huge widow's peek by 30.
>>76619492
Bad anxiety. Can't talk to people. And there's no one I really want to talk to. Like no one with common interests for a friendship to be born.
In college I talk to the people next to me and we chat about stuff. But it's not gonna go further than that.
>>76619369
B-But I just started a new show on Netflix.
>>76619617
>body positivity
>multiculturalism
we safe space now!
>>76618292
>Look up marxism
OK I wasn't precise. I meant some of the ideas that both liberalism and marxism hold and these systems are pretty similar
>>76619737
Consider visiting a psychiatrist, they can help you with your anxiety, and maybe then you can start talking to people and bonding with someone
>>76620024
I-I can't get to one. Anxiety is too bad to get there.
>t talking to people and bonding with someone
I can't bond if there's nothing to bond over.
>>76619617
Wow, rude.
>>76620100
But you are setting your own trap m8, a psy would surely help.
Why don't you look for some /pol/lacks in your state?
Also, what are you studying?
>>76610251
Hurr durr we are going to turn into venezuela hurrr hurrr because that is totally viable as we saw with Tsipras in Europe hurr durrr
We are better now
>In Spain you can be arrested when demanding cops for torture
>In Spain you can't have an opinion against monarchy
>In Spain you can't demand VIP for corruption as the accusation will defend them
>In Spain you must pay for the sunlinght and, if you have solarcell roofs, you must pay for it as if you were buying it from a company
>In Spain you must pay for your house even if the bank has taken it off from you
>In Spain you can't have a treatment for Hepatitis
>In Spain the minister of justice parks his car "thanks to his angel Marcelo"
>In Spain you can be a corrupt politican and not be retired from the public life
>In Spain you can run over a cop if you are the mayor and nothing happens
>In Spain you can vote 50 times by mail from Spain but you can't vote from outside
If they are against all of this I am voting them
>>76619737
Just deal with it before it gets too bad.
Everyone has social anxiety to some extent, the trick is knowing that most people are just as worried about what others think as you are.
Most people are pretty fucking boring, but you have to deal with that if you want to have a normal life. People suck yes.
Manage your time. If you don't have a grasp on what amount of time you should be spending on what to improve yourself then you will fail in life. Figure it out quick.
>>76620100
Do things that create you anxiety. Do it multiple times. At the end it would easy and you would only feel a little bit of it.
Repeat with sth that creates you more anxiety. And so on.
>People are so wealthy that they're eating more! That's why we have massive food shortages!
>>76620160
My apologies, but seriously be a man!
>>76620308
>But you are setting your own trap m8, a psy would surely help.
I know. Believe me I want to. But I always argue when someone suggests that I go.
>Why don't you look for some /pol/lacks in your state?
I once did mention a /pol/ meme. The person didn't pick up on it so I moved on.
>Also, what are you studying?
Computer Science.
>>76620356
Easier said than done.
>Manage your time. If you don't have a grasp on what amount of time you should be spending on what to improve yourself then you will fail in life.
Explains a lot.
>>76620442
I don't act like this in public. I keep it bottled up where it fester as a mental illness.
>>76620401
No I think that would only make things worse. Tried it before. Pretty sure I had a panic attack.
http://www.elmundo.es/baleares/2016/01/11/56937f2fca4741007f8b45b4.html
SPAIN: Both acusation and defendant defend the Spain princess, doctor in economics, as she was signing fraud documents but "she didn't know what she was doing"
At the same time, 70+yo people was told to sign for documents taht "would give them a lot of money"
The bank managers had unlimited credit cards also paid by the state
>B-But Venezuela...
>>76620640
>CATALUNYA
Go away.
http://www.autobild.es/noticias/esperanza-aguirre-atropella-policia-se-da-fuga-216685
Madrid's former mayor, from PP, runs over a cop and flees. She is innocent of that crime.
>>76620526
You have to start with the easiest and then escalate slowly. Man, this would took you some time... you can't pass from level 0 to level 10.
I know your feels because I'm myself very autistic. But you have to be bold. You always suffer more about of the opportunities lost than about failing in the end.
http://www.lamarea.com/2016/04/07/impuesto-al-sol/
Taxes on the sunlight, like wtf
>Oh right those politicians get a place as "consultant" in energy companies like Endesa, Iberdrola or Gas Natural
>>76620526
I initially sweat my ass off in social situations. I calm down and then I'm ok.
Wit and jokes help with small groups, large groups are ok if you have a friend to bullshit with when there.
If no friend I just people watch. It's enjoyable to me just see how people I've never seen and might never see again interact and observe their mannerisms.
http://economia.elpais.com/economia/2016/03/31/actualidad/1459449889_376952.html
Spain's debt reaches 1.800.000.000.000€ even after increasing taxes and cutting out from education and healthcare
wew lad
http://www.ecorepublicano.es/2015/06/opinar-contra-la-corona-en-redes.html
Post an opinion against monarchy will be considered a crime after 1st july
>censorship S.XXI
>already like venezuela don't need to vote Podemos
>>76618531
>VOX
can't vote someone who looks like a kike
>>76620822
>You have to start with the easiest and then escalate slowly. Man, this would took you some time
I've tried! It's too much.
>You always suffer more about of the opportunities lost than about failing in the end.
I know. S-Stop it. I know.
>>76620933
>Wit and jokes help with small groups, large groups are ok if you have a friend to bullshit with when there.
No one ever seems to get my sense of humor.
>If no friend I just people watch. It's enjoyable to me just see how people I've never seen and might never see again interact and observe their mannerisms.
I people watch a lot. Then I imagine what I would do in those situations or what I'd say to them. I'm pretty strange and I think most people can tell.
Well, I have to go take a final, lads. Thanks for chat. Really, thanks.
>>76621262
Do you know that you can put Catalonia flag in pol with an extension?
>>76620355
>In Spain you can be arrested when demanding cops for torture
More or less true
>In Spain you can't have an opinion against monarchy
False
>In Spain you can't demand VIP for corruption as the accusation will defend them
Moslty false
>In Spain you must pay for the sunlinght and, if you have solarcell roofs, you must pay for it as if you were buying it from a company
Moslty false, solar panels have allways been a public scam
>In Spain you must pay for your house even if the bank has taken it off from you
False
>In Spain you can't have a treatment for Hepatitis
False, you can pay for it, healthcare is not free
>In Spain the minister of justice parks his car "thanks to his angel Marcelo"
So what? There are a lot of catholics in Spain.
>In Spain you can be a corrupt politican and not be retired from the public life
Mostly true, but it is not a spanish problem as it is a global politic problem
>In Spain you can run over a cop if you are the mayor and nothing happens
Blatantly false
>In Spain you can vote 50 times by mail from Spain but you can't vote from outside
False
Why are you on /pol/, flagfag?
http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/elecciones/20151210/30712843475/marcelo-angel-de-la-guarda-jorge-fernandez-diaz.html
Spanish minister says that he has an angel that helps him to, for example, park his car.
>>76621320
Try T-Theanine.
>>76620640
>B-But Venezuela...
What are you implying? We should not worry about socialists related to the venezuelan desastrous economic policy because our monarchy has legal privileges?
Are you THAT retarded?
>>76619737
>Bad anxiety. Can't talk to people. And there's no one I really want to talk to. Like no one with common interests for a friendship to be born.
What kind of interests can have someone who talks to nobody?
>>76620773
stop lying, you faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD0nMa90p2M
>>76621379
>>In Spain you must pay for your house even if the bank has taken it off from you
>False
This is true anon, you lose the house and you continue to get fucked by the bank
>>76621379
>you can't have an opinion agains monarchy
1st july
>In Spain you can't demand VIP for corruption as the accusation will defend them
Esperanza aguirre and the princess
>In Spain you must pay for your house even if the bank has taken it off from you
You still have to pay the mortgage even if the bank has your house
>In Spain you can't have a treatment for Hepatitis
>False, you can pay for it, healthcare is not free
Yes it is (was) on Spain you fucking moron
>In Spain you can be a corrupt politican and not be retired from the public life
>Mostly true, but it is not a spanish problem as it is a global politic problem
THEN DON'T VOTE THEM AGAIN RETARD
>In Spain you can run over a cop if you are the mayor and nothing happens
>Blatantly false
Esperanza aguirre again
>In Spain you can vote 50 times by mail from Spain but you can't vote from outside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2Omm74cO0
What else do you need
>>76618531
They dont run in Navarra
It's incredible how a chavist experiment is more sucess than the Chavism.
>>76621620
Yeah we should totally worry about Venezuela first instead of worrying about our problems
>I HUGGED SOME KIDS!!1!
>>76612498
>Communism is fashionable to faggots who never lived under it
Nice fucking meme.
>>76614403
>le Bernie is the same as the USSR meme
http://www.eldiario.es/politica/Fernandez-Diaz-Virgen-condecoracion-policial_0_232377680.html
Spanish minister gives the virgin the highest condecoration of the national police corps
hamijos todos:
Escapad cuanto antes de la madre patria, sin mirar atrás y no volváis.
Hediondo Subnormal.
Torbe Askatu.
>>76614836
>people can't selectively criticize what they don't like about a communist/socialist regime
>>76622232
I'm going to cry...
>>76622238
Nada de escapar. A mi no me mueven de aquí ni a hostias.
http://www.publico.es/sociedad/ministro-justicia-no-ve-infraccion.html
Justice minister says that "as long as there is noone harmed, there is no crime" (known and famous Matador in Spain that brought his baby to work)
I bet this applies at going full speed in the city without running over anyone right?
>>76621861
No, the monarchy will not be protected from criticism from 1st july, it will be protected by threats (I'm also opposed to that, of course)
No, healthcare is not "free", you fucking braindead socialist.
No, your mortgage payment depends on the contract
I dont vote, fucking retard
Esperanza Aguirre didn't ran over a cop.
Everyone I know can vote from outside Spain
You are just a fucking moron who thinks everyone who disagrees with you is a stablishment voter
>>76622046
Not an argument.
See, /pol/, those are the standart debate skills of a spanish leftist, pathetic
>>76616192
Spanish civil war round 2 when
>>76622631
Soon.
>>76622631
soon
Oh boy Spain, if Podemos ever get's into power you'll be fucked up good.
Look on the bright side, only 25% of your country is retarded, Frente para la Victoria (Kircher's) lost 51.5 against 48.5 in 2015.
So half our population is literally fucking retarded.
>>76622442
>Everyone I know can vote from outside Spain
Yeah good luck with that, they changed it to make it a real pain in the ass.
Que ostias, no me apetece hablar ingles. Es tan dificil conseguir el voto rogado que podriamos llamarlo virtualmente imposible según en que país te encuentres. Aquí en este país tendría que comerme un viaje de 12 horas ida y vuelta y nadie me garantiza que en el consulado de turno tengan lo necesario, como ya me paso en Dubai. Ir al consulado y que te pongan malas caras y que no tengan las cosas para votar. Así esta la cosa. Hay casi 3 millones de expats según el censo, y según el censo creo recordar que solo se registraron 600.000 personas, pero no estoy seguro de este dato.
>>76622442
We pay taxes for it, it is not "free" as we have payed for it. Call it fraud then, it's even worse...
Yes it does and the mortgage clausules say so, so it is true.
>hurr I don't vote so my vote is proporcionally given to every party so I technically vote for all corrupt parties
Oh you are right, she just hit a cop motorcycle, not the cop itself. wow what a good argument I can't refute you, you won
Yes they can, they have to visit the embassy in the country capital twice for documents and a third for voting
>implying they will reach in time to vote and their vote will be counted
>>76622576
It's not an argument because it runs against my own beliefs so I will just keep talking about foreigner countries in order to dismiss that my own country is shit
>>76622975
En polonia se debe votar en Warsaw y ir 3 veces. sólo queda el voto rogado, q al final es otra pena...
>>76623078
I think talking about Venezuela constantly is stupid. But you can deny that almost all the leading people of the 2nd most voted party were advisors of Venezuela government.
>>76623179
Pues eso, Polonia es un país muy tocho. Imagina que por lo que sea estas en la otra punta opuesta a Varsovia y que tienes que ir y volver 3 veces. 6 viajes. Gástate ese dinero, comete esos viajes, saca tiempo del trabajo etc. Normal que la gente no haga el esfuerzo. Yo no hago el esfuerzo muy a mi pesar y me jode la vida.
Quien cambio el tema del voto desde el extranjero? los que saben que desde el extranjero no van a obtener un misero voto. Blanco y en botella.
HEDIONDO SUBNORMAL
>>76623587
normal, cosa del PP... Los jovenes se van por culpa del PP, pues que no puedan votar.
Por eso te decía lo de polonia. Imaginate que estas a 3h de Varsovia...
Pero en Venezuela ya sabes
>>76623078
No, I was talking about the fact that Podemos is a risk for our economy wich is clear seeing the awesome work they did in Venezuela, not about venezuelan problems
>>76623012
>as we have payed for it
another retard that fell for the welfare state meme
My vote is not given proporcionally to other parties, I just don't vote because we don't have a classic liberal alternative in Spain
And yes, hitting a cop motorcycle is not rolling over a cop, not remotely close to that
Also
>it runs against my own beliefs
what are you talking about, m8?
>>76612520
we'll dig
>>76622631
after the fall
>>76623531
not only advisors, but also apologists and obvious power tools
The thing about Venezuela is that those old enough to remember 2002, 2003, also remember that the policies of the Bolivarian Revolution were supported by MANY left-wing intellectuals around the world. In Brazil, specially, left-wing intellectuals, artists and politicians couldn't shut up about how great Hugo Chávez was, how we should emulate their reforms in Brazil, the whole "World Social Forum" scene elected Venezuela as the model of "socialism of the 21st century" and Hugo Chávez as it's prophet.
Now that the whole thing has gone to shit, this people is conspicuously silent, so they should called out about it. It's not a matter of "it's just a foreign country, it doesn't mean anything". It's a foreign country where many policies these people wanted were enacted and it failed, so we should question these policies, the same way eugenics and racism were questioned after the debacle of fascist regimes in Europe.
And those who think "it can't happen in Spain, we are too good for that". You should read about Venezuela before Chávez. It was one of the most developed countries in Latin America, with a democratic tradition longer than even Spain has nowadays. And yet it went to shit because a bunch of Marxist intellectuals and artists convinced poor people to vote for a left-wing populist demagogue.
>>76623812
Venezuela?
JAJAJA hay que ser pringui para hablar de venezuela. A quien coño le importa venezuela, zimbawe, ruanda o cualquier otro puto pais miserable de mierda. Que os importan, que? que les importan, que? NADA, pero a los tontos les distrae.
Regla de oro cuando se discute de politica hoy en dia, el que saca el tema de venezuela es automaticamente tildado de tonto del bote, subnormal profundo y gilipollas.
Quien ha sacado aquí otra vez ese tema? Distracciones las justas y a hablar de lo que importa.
Last new from Gurtel
"El PP, a juicio por llevar a votar a ancianos con las facultades intelectuales afectadas"
http://www.eldiario.es/politica/PP-ancianos-facultades-intelectuales-afectadas_0_524947732.html
>>76623848
Podemos a risk for our economy, as they raised our debt to 1800000000000€... Oh, it was PP!
I DO pay for social healthcare each month, even if I pay also for private healthcare myself. But I do pay for them, so I don't want SPANISH people (not foreigner people) to be kept out of it.
It is still a crime and of course it's not the same, but it is a crime against the cops.
ANd I agree about the liberal part, I don't vote for podemos for the multixulturalism and feminazi part
>>76624105
the problem is that spanish leftists think only the PP-Ciudadanos-PSOE voters agree with you (as you can see in this thread), and that is so fucking sad...
>>76623531
And I don't, but it's also stupid to think that one politixcal party will turn a country into another one that is fucked up, in Europe
>>76624261
Que pesao... que yo no voto a los mariconservadores del PP.
Podemos is the last hope for Spain...we're been too sleepy for so long....
We've been used by corrupts from PPSOE.
We need to stops this.
Podemos is the only party that can make fucking move fucking spaniards out from their siesta...
You dont want commies ruling your country? FUCKING WAKE UP
Prepare yourself.
>>76624166
tu y el sarcasmo no sois amigos eh colega
>>76624261
keep whining bitch, but you wont get a catalonian flag. I think we would get a Galician flag first.
>>76624408
NO.
Y EN ESTAS ELECCIONES NO VOTAR AL PARTIDO CARLISTA ES TIRAR EL VOTO A LA BASURA.
He dicho.
>>76624480
Galicia will not separate
>will be a shitty gift to portugal
>>76624166
¿No te parece jodido que Errejon diga que las colas en los supermercados se deben a un mayor poder adquisitivo?
El problema no es Venezuela, es ver como unas zorras a sueldo de un país socialista fracasado alcanzan un puesto relevante en las instituciones. Si hubiesen estado años alabando las políticas agrarias de Mugabe estaría toda España hablando de Zimbawe.
>>76610251
FUUCK.
Dont let these retards take over your shit; you DONT WANT TO BE HERE, OR LIVE LIKE WE DO HERE
FUCKING BURN THOSE HERETICS (metaphorically speaking)
>>76616894
>mfw romanian
>mfw 17.5
>Why the fuck did i move to canada instead of impregnating my fellow countrywomen?
>>76624698
Don't worry monkey, we are far more evolved than you, shitskins
>>76618531
>Pacma having more votes than Vox and UPyD together...
the cringe is so hard
>>76624173
El PP siempre ha sido repugnante al respecto, en galicia se dedicaban a alquilar autobuses para llevar a los ancianos de la aldea a votar, bocadillo y papeleta por delante, claro
>>76624261
Stop with the PP meme already please.
Also, bothering cops is a nice hobby, what do you have against it?
See, we can all be friends, m8
>>76624789
tus amigos >>76624480
>>76624408
>>76624480
>newfags.
get your flags addon
>>76615640
Podemos is just like Syriza.
Once they understand that they have no power they will just do whatever Europe tells them.
At worst, you will become like Greece.
>>76624348
Why? Do you think Merkel will come to save us if Podemos fucks the economy?
The EU is a dictatorship that needs to be demolished
>>76610251
Viva falange!
>>76624902
C's have voted the same as PP most of the times.
PSOE is trying to join them and propose also most of the things as PP. It's no longer SO, its PE.
>>76624915
¿De qué coño hablas?
>>76624997
pretty much what this fellow olive picking friend saids. At the end, they all are and will be puppets without real power.
>>76625089
They are strongly in favour of public education, so too much SO for me ;:^)
>>76625037
How are they going to ruin an already ruined economy
>on downfall
>first on youth unemployment
The main problem we are having is injecting money where we shouldn't: Banks, big companies, particular interests...
It looks pretty easy
>>76624997
This is the problem that leftists don't want to aknowledge, they want us to be europe bitches without realizing it
Todos los que criticais a Podemos, que tipo de prensa leeis?
Donde os informais?
Como justificais que los ayuntamientos gobernados por Podemos esten rebajando la deuda que tanto han subido los gobiernos anterioes de PPSOE o CIu o la mierda que sea?
Solo habeis caido en la trampa de los judios que controlan los medios de comunicacion....
QUieres salvar españa?
Vota Podemos
DEe todas formas si no la salvan y la hunden, será como en la 2º republica....la derehca se pondra chula y dará un golpe de estado, seguramtne esta vez sin violencia...aunque ya veremos.
>>76625419
pero en benezzuela que eh no ves q leopoldito pobrecito es preso politico?
Y los niños que eh quien los abraza pablo se los come
Que vuelva el PP
>>76625419
>mfw we wont see a new Spanish Civil War in our lifetime
In times like these, when our only "choices" are either one of the three social democrat parties or communism, is when I feel more comfortable with the fact that I don't vote.
Voting is consenting to slavery. Just don't.
>>76625306
>it looks pretty easy
>the problem is injecting money where we SHOULD
You talk like a decadent socialist out of touch about the danger of the european union and (as any other socialist) economy in general
>>76610251
>Why are spaniards so retarded?
Because they're the kind of people who believe they can escape somewhere better when things go to shit for them.
>>76625585
CAtalan tenias que ser macho...
Vosotros sois a lso que mas han comido el tarro en españa...
Deja el argumento de venezuela para los PPeros....
Por cierto compartes mas problemas con un trabajador de madrid que cualquier ricachon de caltauña
Para que quereis la independecia, para que Mas os folle y os robe lo poco que dejaron los Pujoles?
EL nacionalismo catalan me cabrea casi mas que el español...
madura un poco...
jejejej maduro, comunista
>>76625419
>me gusta ignorar el estatus supraestatal y filodictatorial en el que se ha convertido la unión europea
eso me transmite tu post
>>76625681
injection in banks
>black credit cards, 2000% bonus for managers, mortgage+house
big companies
>taxes on the sun, "puertas giratorias"
particular interests
>friends, family, also big companies to get a future job as consultant
Do you really support all of that
>>76625810
que grima los juegos de palabras de Rivera en el debate el otro día, cringy cringy
>>76625810
>sin conocer la CUP
en que siglo vives
>0 corrupcion
>han tumbado presupuestos menos estrictos que los vuestros
eso si, si votas a los mismos no te quejes.
>sin entender el sarcasmo
>>76622198
hahaha lets not pretend like he wouldn't be. you can't make everything free without making everyone a slave to the state.
>>76616192
The only way to kill socialism is to stop feeding it money. So people who leave are actually helping more than the people who stay. No matter how much you vote, you will always be socialist so staying doesn't help much.
>>76625982
No, I don't support injecting money in a recession, banks must fall, anyway, where do you think they should inject that money?
>>76626005
grima
grina
ghina
china
Aha!
>>76626005
>>76626126
Spaniards are not used to american freedom, wich is one the reasons why I hate my country
>>76624774
Otro moro hablando de shitskins...
Caballero por dios, ustedes literalmente nos parieron. NOS PARIERON MALDITOS, USTEDES.
Todos tenemos peos, y el que estan teniedo ud. ahora creeme que lo sufriran si no reaccionan.
>>76626142
I support injecting money, end I would even say on banks, but not like "yes my friend take all of this BUT don't use it bad ok?"
The main idea on injecting money on the banks was that people couldn't pay mortgages, and then they were running out of money
So that money was to solve those mortgages of poor people that had nothing else
>retarded people with only 1 job and 3 kids
anyway
They didn't forgive any mortgage and raised their bonus.
The lack of control after injecting money is not logical, it's a friend-family thing.
>>76626247
>USA
>freedom
stop this meme now
>>76626332
No te molestes, por mucho que americanos, griegos, brasileños y venezolanos lo digan seguirán creyendo que es una estrategia absurda del establishment español para desprestigiar a Podemos.
>>76626247
yes, thats why we have a law that supresses freedom of speech
>implying freedom of speech exists anywhere, nearer is 4chin
>>76626332
Pablo Iglesias spotted
GTFO
>>76611824
honestly considered you guys dead for a long time now.
>>76626401
Well, I think it is not fair to redistribute money, even in a big crisis, don't be such a bank bitch, you need a big cup of Andrew Jackson in your life
Que parecemos tontos hostia.
Si no queremos convertirnos en otro memecountry como la India, Argentina o Suecia, tenemos que mantener un perfil bajo.
>>76626541
We never had freedom of expression in Spain, you fucktard. It is truly pathetic to see someone whining about losing something he never had.
>>76626690
Yeah I would think that what about letting those people starve and die, that's a fair way of thinking and I respect it ofc, but I support helping the people while helping the bank, and as such doing a "net" for the big fall, than letting those people die.
the main point is that injecting money on the bank without control is awful, the same happened in catalunya with the tolls, we have enlarged 25years the concession even if it's payed already
>thank you CDC
>>76626552
Mira, hay un verguero de Venecos en tu pais ahora, pero no del tipo de Venecos que viven aqui, no, del tipo de Venecos que recibieron educacion, consiguieron un titulo medio decente y nunca lo pudieron ejercer aqui, y con suficiente pudencia como para irse de esta mierda antes de que se volviera lo que es hoy.
En lugar de pelear con nosotros (ellos), unete a ellos, diles lo que esta pasando en España y haz una maldita cruzada anti-rojos!
>>76616358
I'm fine with any Europeans coming here honestly. We need them.
>>76610251
you do realize that if one of you doesn't kill them they are going to simply rob your nation blind and then fuck off to their mansions in exile a few years down the road right?
Look at Chavez's family. His daughter is a fucking multi-BILLIONAIRE with properties all over the world in the most expensive places like Monnaco, Manhattan, Tokyo, Lake Cuomo, etc.
They're planning on doing the same... ESPECIALLY if they're already trying to soften you guys up for the coming "prosperity" like I'm reading here
>>76626913
we lost a bit of what we had... ofc we don't have freedom of speech as I can't make jokes about ETA or racism, but we can't even insult the monarchy now
>>76611824
Because Podemos are so obviously controlled opposition financed by the jew that at this point one can only silently shake his head and feel sorry for the spanish people.
"If you vote for us, poorfag anon, we will increase your 500 euro slave wage by 5% and import 10 million muslims because one world brotha. We gotta help those poor refugees. Long live the EU and Heil Merkel"
There is literally no political party in Spain that is not 100% cucked, even Germany has the weakass rightwing party AfD. You're just completely fucked.
>>76610251
RIP Spain. It was a good run
>>76627202
This!!!
dont let these degenerates destroy your country, as shitty as it is, DONT LET IT BECOME SHITTIER.
>>76627202
Only 2 persons attacked the actual government that are awful, so you think they are going to risk for a party that isn't even on the government?
>btw the big cities' mayor are from Podemos and debt has been extremely reduced
the problem is that fag prides and all that shit are very permitted and we are crossing a line, but anyway
>>76610251
>said venezuelan lines in front of the supermarkets were created by the high consumption capacity obtained thanks to Chavez economic policies
The country is so plentiful that's what is making it deprived and Africa-tier poor?
>>76627041
If you really care about poor people don't steal money from them to preserve the failed wellfare state
>>76627071
Un dia te daras cuenta de que Venezuela no es España y que España no es Venezuela...
Y que aun que nos conteis lo mla que os tratan en venezuela los emrpasarios que os esconden comida, emrpesas privadas que provocan escasez, bloqueos comerciales de paises como españa...etc
>>76627168
T-thanks amerifat, my dream is to gtfo from Spain and live in Trumpland until I die.
>>76624789
I can confirm this.
>>76627434
>wat
>>76627448
que va, que no sabes que cuando gane podemos al dia siguiente Carrefour, Alcampo e incluso MErcadona e Inditex se iran de aquí porque claro, seremos venezuela ya, y se iran a otros sitios porq para que van a quedarse a ganar dinero si pueden irse y perderlo?
>>76627223
Insult was never a right in Spain.
>but we can't even
See? this is the problem, you should have the right to say anything you want, a right that never existed in Spain
Podemos still defends Venezuela? That is beyond retard tier. I hope the left gets exactly what they vote for.
>>76623848
>welfare state meme
Daily Reminder that capitalists are sociopaths and retards who ignore reality to push ideology and that the entire planet would be third world if capitalists were allowed to have their way.
>>76627755
of course, also a reason why I don't think podemos (neither CUP!) are real left parties
I would vote for a mix of Podemos, CUP and a bit of Ciudadanos.
VOTAR POR EL PEPÉ JOE
Y SI NO EHTÁ CIUDADANOH
When will we genocide the cataláns once and for all?
>>76610251
>the turbo faggot 14 yr old looking fag vice president of Podemos
>>76627862
la foto del jueves hahaha
>>76627912
when you have enough money to get inside catalunya poor spanish fag
>>76627168
Fuck Europeans. We don't need to start importing more people that have been exposed to radioactive cuckoldry. Depopulation is the only answer.
>>76626247
>American """""""freedom"""""""
>>76627448
Lo de los bloqueos comerciales es verdad.
Pero por favor, no me jodas con lo de que los empresarios que esconden comida y las empresas privadas que provocan escasez, eso es basura mediatica de la izquierda...
Mira, yo trabajo en una panaderia, una en una de las capitales de estado mas importantes del pais, y CASI NUNCA nos llega materia prima para hacer pan; que quieres que hagamos? que hagamos todo el pan a las 7 de la mañana y luego se acabe a las 9 y ya? NO.
Hacemos 5-6 tandas, a las 7 y luego a las 3 de la tarde, y luego se acaba todo, ya. Aun limitandolo a 15 panes por persona, hay gente que nunca llega a tocar un pan por llegar muy tarde.
Por dios, no hables de este hueco como si supieras como estamos aqui, esa basura mantiene a gente con cerebro como tu; creyendo que los "empresarios malvados" son los que quieren joder a uno.
>>76627683
>he thinks the wellfare state is the only thing preventing poor people from starvation
>>76610251
Lol
>>76627836
>implying poverty is beneficial for capitalists
also:
>pathologizing your enemies
Spanish socialism in a nutshell
>>76628130
Sus teorías economicas son tan descabelladas que recurren a la conspiración capitalista para explicar la escasez, como siempre se ha hecho.
>>76628523
>implying poverty is beneficial for capitalists
You're really this stupid? Population growth with a poor population makes the rich richer than a decent middle class for everyone but them. That's why the rich have never been richer than they now are. Capitalists are such morons. Your own gods stomp your faces in dogshit on a daily basis and you point at their enemies and blame them.
>>76628130
>controlar precios
>pretender que no haya escasez
spain is an islamic country, why are you dumbasses even arguing with these muzzie fucking retards.
>>76628930
You are a retard spewing the typicall 15 year old leftist argument, blatantly forgetting about the role of the government
>Population growth with a poor population makes the rich richer
>Population growth with a rich population makes the rich poorer?
also this
>>76628945
>>76629338
allahu ahkbar indeed, ShaunJerome DeLaGuetto.
>>76628930
Also, explain this pls
>>76628130
MADRE DE DIOS, PATÉTICO MONO PERO ADEMAS IMBÉCIL
>>76628945
>pretender
Eso no significa lo que tu crees
>>76629655
No vives ahí y te crees con derecho a opinar.
Asi va vuestro "pais"
>Spain politics thread
>"let's talk about Venezuela!"
It's like I'm watching A3.
>>76629655
>me preocupo mucho por los pobres
>llamo imbécil a un panadero que me cuenta lo duro que es conseguir materia prima en un país con los precios controlados artificialmente
>>76629939
>Spain politics thread
This thread is about Podemos stance at controlling prices and shortages.
>>76629456
>Hurr gubmint always wrong, business always right
Enjoy Elysium.
>Population growth with a rich population makes the rich poorer?
Yes, stupid. It's called income equality and it's exactly what the rich do not want. Two excellent examples are movies and American income.
Movies are selling for absolute shit lately, yet they're breaking financial records nearly every year. The reason is because the population has exploded since the 80s so there are more customers, even though movies are hardly worth watching anymore. Free market broke it.
The second example is American income. Real wages for all Americans except the wealthy have actually gone DOWN since the 70s, yet the rich are experiencing fabulous wealth right now. America has more billionaires than any other country, yet over half our people make less than $30k and are receiving public benefits. The rich have broken the economy so badly that if you removed the welfare system which is propping up the American facade of first world status, we'd be third world with the flick of a switch.
I repeat: capitalists are morons who can't deal with reality.
>>76629633
1: I'd be curious to see this chart extend past 25 years and 2: does that chart account for inflation? This one does.
How about you edgy 20 year old crapitalists take your own advice and stop learning economics from fucking books written by people you already agree with and take an actual look at REAL LIFE AND HISTORY. Capitalism has ALWAYS destroyed society when permitted to run rampant. It happened in the 1800s and it's happening again now.
>>76630339
Also, Venezuela is not Socialist. It's a country run by capitalist drug cartels, you faggot.
>>76610251
PP is going to win again.
Dont worry (too much)
>>76630152
Check his name, what did you expect?
>>76615640
Sur de Argentina.
Tailandia
EEUU
