I understand a few things about the US political system but, as an outsider, I'm no expert.
From some of the numbers I've seen it just doesn't look like a closable gap.
Reassure me burgers. Explain that he only needs to win a few key states.
>>76577495
Pennsylvania.
>>76577495
No. You're showing the best case scenario for trump. If you want to be realistic, reverse the numbers and see what Hillary will do if she gets the extra 5 points.
Trump is unelectable in the general.
If it wasn't for the large number of completely unrealistic anti-government nihilists and reality TV watchers in the republican primary he'd be a footnote and not a major party candidate.
>>76577495
Trump is tied in PA and Oregon, this map is bullshit
>>76577495
He has a very strong chance of winning.
>>76578667
>Oregon
Oh yeah, just like that one poll that showed McCain up in Washington
>Is there any way Trump can win?
hopefully not
>>76578713
>by 'strong' I mean 'no chance at all'
>republicans have painted themselves into an electoral corner by relying on aging white males as their only source of votes
>country is getting less white, republicans are literally dying off.
>when texas goes blue because of hispanics Trump has alienated, dems will win the presidency for forever.
>>76578806
same. I swear, /pol/ is the strongest example of Poe's Law that's ever been
>>76578317
wew
>>76577495
If he wins OH then I promise you he will win VA.
Probably IA too.
PA and NH are blue states now (fortunately he doesn't need them)
>>76578892
Bern cucks arer either going Trump/Independant/or not voting
>>76579092
can't really be called independent when Libertarians and Greens are actually polling this cycle
>>76579092
>much more likely mainstream repubs will skip voting and eliminate the walking orange sphincter that is trump, than that a few overly-idealistic asshats would skip voting because aging jewman loses the nom.
>>76577495
The most votes a republican has ever gotten. He's got more support than Bush did and he was elected twice.
That and all those bernouts rioting in the streets. Every time that and a terrorist attack happens Trump increases in the polls.
Trump need the typical repuican strongholds and then just 4 battleground states: Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania and one other
Realclearpolitics indicates there may be as many as 14 battleground states and trump has plans to campaign in 15 states. He doesn't even need a 3rd of his goal to win
>>76578892
>>republicans have painted themselves into an electoral corner by relying on aging white males as their only source of votes
>>country is getting less white, republicans are literally dying off.
>>when texas goes blue because of hispanics Trump has alienated, dems will win the presidency for forever.
I love you, anon.
>>76579312
for a while there he was polling below Hillary fucking Clinton in Utah. UTAH. A state Mitt Romney won by 50%. Even taking into account Romney's Mormonness, it's ridiculous. Plus, like >>76578892 said, he has a chance of literally alienating Texas, which is the most important Republican stronghold. Trump can't win.
I'm Kind of pessimist because #fucktrump etc.. Is the "in" thing at the moment and people will vote for the lizard.
>>76577495
DELET
>>76577495
>in each state
That's not how you game the electoral college, though. This graphic is pointless other than to demonstrate the problem with first past the post.
>>76577495
He is up in Pennsylvania, tied in Oregon (in at least one poll), and I could see him pulling Iowa.
Virginia should also be winnable and some have though that Wisconsin could be winnable.
>>76578892
Implying that hispanics want the country to fill up with more retarded rapefugees.
The cuck is really strong in this thread.
>>76577495
>>76578892
All Trump has to do is increase the Republicans share of the white vote by 4% and increase white turnout by 4% compared to 2012 in order to win. Even in the event of historic Latino turnout and historic Latino support for the Democratic ticket, this still holds true.
Pic related
>>76577495
>this image
When the hell was this made? If Trump goes up by +5% in the latest polls, he would win in a landslide.
>>76580982
>increase share by 4 and turnout by 4
Seriously, just use magical unicorns next time to explain it.
When you've already got the highest percentage of a group and its the group that votes the most, saying you'll get even more of them and they'll vote even more frequently doesn't work.
>>76581233
>trump won't turn out working class whites and win more of them
Wew, that's literally his strongest demographic of support.
>>76577495
That map must be really old. Some of those states they show going blue are ties currently.
>>76581233
4% is a small number. Four pennies doesn't even add up to a nickel. The REAL challenge is the College White Vote, and we'll see if he manages to pull it off. Right now he isn't.
>>76581385
He still wins the white and the college degree vote even in the polls that have Clinton up.
>>76577495
I can't take any map serious that doesn't have Nevada being won by Trump.
>>76581686
He's tied even with Clinton. He needs to win that demographic by at least seven points, if not more.
>>76581233
Uneducated white working class Americans have largely checked out of the voting process altogether because they constantly get fucked by both parties. They are flocking to Trump's campaign this election.
As >>76581385 said, if Trump can win the college white vote as well, he will win the election handily. He and Clinton are tied at 44% with this demographic right now, which is several points behind where Romney was. However, Trumps share of the non-college white vote is so far ahead of what Romney's was he's gaining ground with whites as opposed to loosing it.
Clinton is fucked.
>>76581233
Obama isn't on the ballot, my nigga. Non-hispanic whites will cast a larger percentage of the vote this year.
>>76581809
>we'll win because we're relying on young college voters
kek you're in for a fun ride in a few months
>>76581787
Well this Quinnipiac poll has him up by 8 points on that demographic although he's losing overall.
https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06012016_Ugb28vf.pdf
>>76581385
4 percent is a huge number. People don't change the way they vote in that number. Ever. Reagan got 63 percent white males. Romney got 62. You aren't getting 66.
>>76578317
You probaly sayed the same in the republican primaries. You are foregeting how corrupt hillary are and the incredebele amount of dirt she has on herself. To trust hitlary you need to go on radio silence until election and this past year.
>>76581953
Learn to read leaf, white people with degrees not white people in the process of getting degrees.
>>76581953
That's not even close to what I said you moron.
>>76581980
Trump is polling at 60% white men, and Clinton has 26%. From >>76581955
Here is what I would like to know about Trump. Maybe someone here knows. He is already thr presumptive GOP nominee. If he were to win the Presidency, wouldn't he have to transfer his business holdings and stocks to a blind trust? He can't just hand them over to his kids for a while. Cheney had to do the same thing with his Haliburton holdings if I remember correctly. So, is trump willing to do this? Do you think he's even considered it yet?
>>76582105
>Trump has been involved in 3500 lawsuits
>still has major ones currently on-going and generating a lot of bad press that he's fueling by making dumb comments about them
>some of the others including abusing government connections to evict old ladies to build a parking lot for his casino
but yeah it's Hillary that needs to watch out for bad press
>>76579092
I'm for Bernie but I'd take Hilary over trump
The only reason why Trump couldn't win is because white power is truly broken in America. If this is indeed the case, all of you should be looking for a new place to live.
>>76577495
>Reassure me burgers. Explain that he only needs to win a few key states.
Swing states and the rust belt is where he will be focusing.
He can probably flip them.
>>76579276
Are you one of thoose reditors coming from r/berni? Have you flooded this board now becuse you have lost? How mutch mony did you donate?
>>76582105
I voted early for trump in the primaries my friend
huge turn out at the rally. my favorite part was as we were leaving there was a big group of (((protestors))) outside waving mexican flags. as i approached a crowd had already formed around them. they were shouting something about mexico, so i got riled up and ran over and starting screaming "BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL, BUILD THE WALL!!!" (minus the reeeeee!). That got the whole crowd worked up chantng "BUILD THE WALL!" and "USA!"
best moment of my policitcal life, right behind casting the ballot. that was the riot where somee BLM talked shit to an old man and got hit
>>76582388
>billionaires get involved in stupid, frivolous lawsuits
What a surprise. The TrumpU crap isn't going to get anywhere leaf.
No. There is zero chance Trump can win.
The much more concerning reality is that the people who support him are not going to physically fight and armed rebellion when he loses. Can't expect much more from country club conservatives LARPing as nationalists, though.
These are the same people who laughed in your face a decade ago if you tried to talk about how bad the racial situation was. The same people who went out of their way to shit all over the militia movements in the 70s and 80s.
>>76582416
You're not fooling anybody. We all know you won't get your lazy ass off the couch long enough to vote.
>>76582388
>implying Trump is tied to even a single one of those lawsuits
>implying they aren't lawsuits filed against Trump's corporation(s)
>implying Trump's lawsuits aren't just handled by a whole gamut of top tier lawyers
>he thinks Trump goes to every lawsuit or some shit
A fucking leaf.
>>76577495
It'll come down to Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The winner of at least 2/3 of these will be president.
The Hispanics will decide this election. If trump can win 25-30, he'll win. Book it.
>>76577623
Dem turnout down 30% from 08 Rep turnout up 100% (800k to 1.6mil) plus tied in polls. Penn is Trump country this year
>>76582639
We already have BLM activists getting convicted of lynching in California and you call us violent?
its going to be a slaughter
as soon as it comes to debates clinton is going to mop the floor with him, the only thing that could stop it is if something really incriminating comes out against hillary
>>76582552
>berni
>mony
>becuse
>mutch
Stay white Switzerway.
>>76577495
>>76582733
He's already lost. He will be clobbered so badly it is going to be stupefying. It is going to be a Reagan-type landslide for Hillary.
The country is far, far, far, far, far too non-White and the "right" is content to mire in it. They will not fight. They will not kill. They are broken and scared. This isn't a last gasp, it's a kill shot.
>>76582767
Clinton is shit at anything that isn't pre-recorded and tested on focus groups. Trump will hit her so hard and fast she'll be left sputtering like an idiot.
>>76582767
>the only thing that could stop it is if something really incriminating comes out against hillary
so her entire career?
>>76581980
>People don't change the way they vote in that number
>Ever
The fuck are you talking about? In 2004 40% of Hispanics voted for George W. Bush. Four years later in 2008, only 30% voted for McCain. It's not at all outside the realm of possibility that a demographic could change their vote by 4 percent.
>>76582767
>mop the floor with him
Do you think she'll say woman 20 times or 30 times?
>>76581233
How much did Obama increase Dem's share of Blacks and the black turnout?
I know for a fact black turnout was higher than it's ever been.
>>76582767
I'm no Trump fan but I think you're dead wrong. Hilary is so fake and disingenuous and pandering she'll lose to trump and his dirty ad hominem sand trickery.
>>76582767
>a leaf
>>76582767
top of my head
1.) child rape pedo underwear scandal (as a defense lawyer fraudently tampered with damning evidence (underwear with blood and cum stains) in a child-rape case so that it couldn't be used in court)
2.) helping bill rape a lot
3.) benghazi
4.) email scandal
>>76582388
Hillary's about to be indicted so yea, she will have plenty of bad press to watch out for in the near future.
>>76582766
>We have BLM activists getting convicted of lynching in California
That is pure violence winning the argument. Violence always wins. Always. Always. Always. Only cowards and weaklings and those already beaten avoid it. The strong fight to win for the sake of fighting to win.
>you call us violent?
Huh? No, I didn't call you violent at all. That's the problem. You're timid, weak, scared. You search for niggers and spics who like Trump like it's a feather in your cap. You plead incessantly that you aren't a racist. You whine about Hillary Clinton's dreadful foreign policy record as if the mouth breathing, blood lusting hordes of Amerikwa give the slightest shit.
You are completely and totally out to lunch with what is actually occurring. You are being readied for full scale genocide with the full weight of the organized state and military and all you do is worship and stay loyal to the state's institutions. You're already done.
>>76582602
>clock
>>76583057
It went up a lot. Basically that post is just bullshit.
>>76578317
Found the shill!
We should start a fund for people who manage to get shills fired somehow.
>>76582602
>>76583266 (checked(
actually come to think of it i did REEEEEEE but it was a southern YEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>76582388
Throwing old ladies out on the street is immoral
but
It's not criminally corrupt obstruction of justice by deleting emails/tampering with evidence which carries a punishment of jail time in addition to...
wait for it...
keep waiting...
wait for white canadians to die out because they voted for Trudeau and you only find whites in America because
HILLARY CAN'T LEGALLY HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE ANYMORE
>>76582602
>every political cartoonist always shows white as fat
dont they know that niggers and spics are even fatter?
Yes.
The power of love and friendship.
>>76581233
>When you've already got the highest percentage of a group
I'm pretty sure Trump does not have 100% of the white vote.
>>76583547
>Doesn't fit the narrative
>>76582767
>>76582639
In 2009, one million grass roots conservatives who would eventually become the core of the Trump movement marched on Washington in protest of the progressive policies the Democrats were pushing. There was no violence, no riots, no arrests.
You can't even get 100 progressives together for a rally without flag burning, car tipping, and rioting taking place. The "conservatives are violent" meme needs to die. It's the progressive left that needs to be watched. They're some of the most violent, delusional, evil political groups in the country.
>>76582767
>as soon as it comes to debates clinton is going to mop the floor with him
This is a woman who refuses to do press conferences and only does speeches if she gets paid 250k.
She has no idea what she is in for.
>>76583728
Fucking this. The amount of shit the Tea Party got was unreal.
>oh they want small government those fringe conservatives
>>76583403
This still doesn't make me entirely optimistic. Basically Trump needs to increase white voter turnout in a similar fashion to what Obama did in 2008. Certainly possible, but whites seem to have more self-hating cucks right now.
>>76578879
FUCKING
>>76583854
Whites are a much larger demographic to draw from.
Blacks might have helped Shillary defeat Bernout, but they won't turn out for her in the general election.
>>76583854
I'm pretty confident whites with no degree are already going to vote in record numbers for Trump, so that's really good. It's college degree whites that need to be turned increasingly towards Trump.
>>76577495
Wow, you're right.
I'm #cruzmissle now.
>TRUMP BTFO
Closing a gap of over FIVE points is simply not possible!
>>76577495
It's an uphill battle and as much as people hate to admit it the Hispanic vote matters an enormous amount. Trump just needs to know there are times to keep your mouth shut.
Hilary and Trump both couldn't care less about the welfare of anyone in this thread. They are both megalomaniacs and care only about their own public image. Hilary has usurped the worst points of feminism and tells bald faced lies without flinching. Trump is the consummate salesman. He's a crass parody of Paker from The Office
>>76577495
Trump and Clinton are already tied in Pennsylvania.
Even if that map isn't COMPLETE bullshit, which it is, it's also just projecting polls onto population, which is a complete misrepresentation of demographics, especially voter demographics and turnout.
>>76577495
Trump is set to win, dummy
>>76583728
>The "conservatives are violent" meme needs to die
What's that got to do with my post? Read it again if you need to. Maybe a little slower this time.
Anything can happen in politics. It's a minute by minute game. Tge media will absolutely tell you that trump has no chance.
>>76578317
Thank you for correcting the record. $0.02 has been added to your account.
>>76583983
>Blacks might have helped Shillary defeat Bernout, but they won't turn out for her in the general election.
why do you think this
>>76584053
>that point where trump surpasses hillary
the lion rises
>>76579558
Texas is 70% white, fuck off
if you think blacks/hispanics will come out in droves to vote this year, you're delusional. They won't be relevant in this election
>>76584314
No, Texas is like 44% non hispanic white. Regardless, we're solid red anyway. Even spics vote republican.
>>76582367
To be honest, I feel like Trump is planning on martyring himself. I'll be surprised if there isn't several assassination attempts on him in the first year of his presidency. There's a good chance one of them will be successful, as well. If that happens though, it will be a huge boost to oust the libtards from our country.
>>76582639
Such bravado, but you and I both know that Hillary simply won't hold up under the constant drum beat of Trump's vastly superior marketing machine. I don't think it will be a landslide, but he will win both the popular and electoral vote and the most accurate statistical model in existence (only wrong once in 102 years with a 96.1% accuracy rate), says that Trump vs. Hillary results in a 97% probability that Trump will win the general election:
https://www.sbstatesman.com/2016/02/23/political-science-professor-forecasts-trump-as-general-election-winner/
The depth of her problems are very severe and she is on the wrong side or has flipped continuously on every topic and policy element she is campaigning on. Additionally, there are macro-political and geo-political issues working against the DNC as a whole. All the Huff-Poll and CNN betting pool numbers simply don't reflect the reality of what is happening on the ground and it's why the establishment has been mystified by the events of this election cycle.
>>76577495
Polls are one thing, but can Hillary actually motivate people to vote for her? Yeah, she has her soccer moms and city blacks, but can she motivate Bernie millennials to come out for her? Can she motivate the far left to vote for a Wall Street insider? I doubt it. She doesn't have a compelling message other than "I'm a woman!".
Will calling Trump a racist, sexist, bigot, etc for 6 months straight work? It will get stale quickly.
Will the violent leftist mobs waving Mexican flags, bludgeoning police, destroying property, and blocking traffic make Hillary look good? Nope.
It's baffling that unions would support Hillary when illegal immigration is meant to replace them.
>>76584170
Yea, I read your post as "people who support him are going to fight an armed rebellion when he loses". My bad.
>>76582431
Unfortunately, the Fatherland is infested by vermin... :'(
>>76583165
>"Hillary is done, she will surely get indicted!"- Increasingly nervous man for the 17th time this year
Le 20 cents maymay :^)
Seems to me the best thing we can do is meme Hillary to death.
Trump has to soften some of his language on some issues.
I'm from Philly, no chance of Trump winning pa because they literally drag nigs into the voting both
>>76584747
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. What she did was clear cut illegal. There's not even any room for interpretation.
Trump will take Iowa
>>76584747
>>76584882
It's widely believed that the Obama administration will block any attempt to indict Shillary.
So the FBI needs to build a huge and solid case before going forward and you can tell that's exactly what they're doing.
>>76584882
She's also clearly being protected. If she does go to prison, it will be only after trump is president.
>>76577495
Your map shows Pennsylvania as blue. A poll out today shows Pennsylvania as tied - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
There's a lot of time left and Hillary will be indicted right before the Democrat convention, anyway.
>>76578317
IncreasinglyNervousMan.jpg
But, memes aside, if this election cycle has proven anything it's that shit is unpredictable. We've got five months of this left to go, just Hillary and Trump now, it's a Wild Card game.
>>76584882
>What she did was clear cut illegal.
So what? Of course it was. What country do you fucking think you live in, retard? Nobody cares if they look corrupt. Nobody cares if they are corrupt. No one is going to do anything about her.
Her voters don't even care. They are corrupt just like she is. When is the last time you morons actually went outside and saw the average American for what it is? This is not a good country. It does not have good people living in it.
>he'll never run
He did
>he'll never win a state
He wins the majority of them that didn't have fixed elections
>He'll never get the nomination
He does
>It will be a contended convention and lose there
He surpassed all goals
>Okay we is the nominee but he'll never beat hillary in a poll
He already is
>He'll never be president
Cya eat those worlds soon
>>76585061
2edgy4me
>>76578317
>>76582766
source right fucking now
>>76585097
>>76585191
Are you 12? That is the way democratic voters are. They don't give two shits that Hillary did illegal activity, some of them know it full well. They just want their free shit.
>>76585061
Someone is protecting the Clintons. It is obvious.
>>76585311
>>76585097
gorgeous
>>76577495
Trump is pulling in more votes than any Republican ever has meanwhile Hillary is down like a million and a half votes since the last time she ran.
If anybody has dirty on Hillary it's trump. There's plenty of time to drag her name through the mud.
didn't Trump pass George Bush Sr in votes?
Do liberals not understand how YUGE that is?
>>76585275
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/06/06/afternoon-links-the-outrageous-conviction-of-a-black-lives-matter-activist-for-attempted-lynching/
>>76585537
>Washington post trying to defend them
typical
>>76585537
And liberals still think this movement is okay. Jesus christ.
>>76584997
I'd like to believe they're willing to go public if the White House stonewalls them but that might be too optimistic.
>>76585595
>>76585645
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/6/11839620/jasmine-richards-black-lives-matter-lynching
More direct link. Its hard to find somebody reporting on this that isnt flinging themselves into a manufactured rage over it.
>>76584024
White with degree, while most of my college white friends are Bernie fags (using friends loosely since i'm judging off my kikebook posts I see) I have plenty of college friends who are voting for trump.
And I'm from Commiefornia too.
>>76585061
If Clinton gets indicted she's done. Look what happened to General Petraeus. That man likely would have been president one day but his fuck up got him driven out of the CIA and ruined his future political career. And this man was a national hero. The people who had to investigate him, try him, and sentence him admired the hell out of him. The same can't be said about Clinton. Law Enforcement hates her, the military hates her, etc. Her only allies are donors and establishment politicians, neither of which can help her in anyway with an FBI investigation and both of which will drop her once the indictment comes as she will be politically toxic.
>>76585739
They absolutely will. But they have only one chance otherwise they fuck everything up.
>>76584440
Respect for trips.
Spics vote republican because they don't like illegals either. Illegals take the spic jobs legal spics would otherwise get because the illegals will do it for less money.
>>76583728
A few things wrong with that. One, there weren't a million people at that rally. The highest estimate was 600k to 800k, while the lower estimates tended to be around 200k to 300k (both ends of that being from event organizers, so any bias is in their favor).
Second, about a year later liberals marched on Washington with almost equal numbers and there were absolutely no reports of violence.
>>76577495
Don't listen to polls.
I've lived in two vastly different states (Florida and Missouri) in the past year, and I have yet to find a single Hillary supporter outside of the "fat, bitter, menopausal woman" demographic. All Bernie supporters want to do is burn the establishment down, and the longer he drags on with this convention shit, the more bitter they'll be towards Hillary. All Bernie's bots are belong to us. We also make up the majority demographic here.
If you want to know for certain, you have to be here in the US and put your ear to the ground to find out. This is absolutely, 120% Trump's election to lose. Trump addressed Trump University; Clinton hasn't said hardly shit about "Clinton Cash," Benghazi, etc. With ISIS in a furor and Hillary being secretive and dismissive, this will be a Trump landslide. Stay tuned.
>>76585934
If it happens things are going to get weird fast.
He's going to flip at least a few blue states.
He's going to win either New York or New Jersey. If not, both.
>>76586454
I know! I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT!
This entire year, for the entire world not just America, has a lot of fun shit that could happen.
I may not be living in a moon colony but at least I can watch the world collapse around me!
>>76586274
If trump doesn't shut the fuck up every once in a while he will push them away.
Reminder that no matter how strong a case the FBI has against Hillary, Obama can just pardon her.
There's no way trump will win without cali and ny. He owns all the underpopulated backwood states but California is worth like 8 states and NY is something similar.
>>76583266
>>76586713
No that's just a meme.
>>76577495
the deal is that in the 2012 and 2008 elections, the turnout was only 55%, with college graduates voting at about 75-80% and highschool graduates and highschool dropouts voting at much lower percents.
most current predictions and polling organisations will be looking at these previous demographics who are likely to vote and tehy will be looking at them in those propotions.
They are extrapolating the past into the future.
However when an election seems close or important people vote at higher turnouts.
Educated people, who are more anti-trump, already have high voter turnout. there is not much potential for them to gain votes more than they already have.
However IF trump can achieve enough energisation, and enough mobilisation of the less-educated voters, then he'll be able to achieve unprecedented victories.
There is some tentative evidence that he is able to do that.
The fact that republican primary voter turnouts have been something like 25% higher than former years for instance.
It's a long shot, but if Trump can keep the campaign high energy and get everyone who supports him to turn out, he could make it happen.
The key is that he needs to remain high energy.
make people inerested, excited, motivated to vote and get their country back.
people saying "it's hopeless" will hinder this. People won't vote if they think that they've already lost and their vote won't turn it around.
So you need to counter pessimistic messages.
Trump needs to continue his media domination
Trump needs the republica party to get him funds to do a strong ad campaign.
It's difficult but possible.
>>76585837
>General Petraeus was a national hero
ZOGbots are national heroes on /pol/ now?
>>76577495
Except that picture is bullshit.
Trump is winning in Colorado, Tied in Oregon, only 2 points behind in Nevada, and only 1~ points behind in New Hampshire.
>>76577495
If one of the following happen, Trump can win.
>Clinton gets indited / another scandal
>Trump keeps the Christian vote without alienating Jews, Atheists, Sikhs, etc.
>Trump tones down the anti-immigrant talk in favor of discussing how Hillary is bought by banks, about to be indited, and is has flip-folped.
>Trump flaunts his black an Mexican supporters while redirecting his focus.
>Bernie goes 3rd party/independent
>Enough of leftist vote is split, and the right remains relatively unified.
>A terrorist attack or spike in cartel activity occurs
>Bernie steps out but endorses Stein / refuses to back Clinton
>Trump actually has a serious and real allegation against Clinton on Monday
>Trump just focus on TX and swing states (that alone can carry what he needs)
>Lefty turnout is depressed because the left also hates Clinton.
>>76587183
Colorado always goes Dem m8, muh weed
>>76578892
Newsflash, libcuck:
Legal mexicans fucking HATE illegals
The entire southwest is red at this poin, I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump flips cali
It's called the silent majority for a reason
t. South texas resident
>>76582416
The average bernie voter will be high on election day and forget to vote or run out of gas in the car to go to poling place.
>>76586877
That wouldn't matter though. Not only would it prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the inherent corruption in Washington, it wouldn't erase the fact that Clinton actually carried out said crime and then repeatedly lied about it.
>>76587282
>I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump flips cali
>>76586913
Can any Republican win ever again then?
>>76577495
Minnesota is swing state this year
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/take-back-our-cities
>>76587247
>Be me
>newfag
>first time greextext works
>Very satisfied
>Will make greentext great again
>>76587258
Trump has an eleven point lead there, and it went red in 2000.
Maybe like 4 months ago?
Latest polls have him even in PA and up one in FL
http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
>>76586877
wouldn't matter
it would tarnish Obama and ruin Hillary regardless
>>76587183
>Trump is winning in Colorado
That poll is way too old. Literally from last year. I don't see anything for Nevada on RCP.
>trump
>losing PA
literally retarded
guess you missed how almost 70k people switched parties to vote for him and northhampton and wilkes are flipping for him
>>76587491
Try like, fourteen days ago. He could win if he is able to go on the attack instead of on the defense.
>>76577495
Wrong, then Trump would win PA.
>>76587282
Cali? No, a few New England states like New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine though. Mass is a lost cause, we are outnumbered here 2-1
>>76587574
>70k people
Woooow such a big number :^)
>>76587503
>>76587365
Most people don't care about her emails
>>76577623
Also the dem convention is in philly, all of PA will witness the chaos of bernouts vs shilltards
Check it out Trumpsters...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/breaking-trump-support-latinos-now-37-4-points-behind-hillary-clinton/
>>76587183
Virtually all the state poll averages are inaccurate at the moment due to so many of them coming before Trump closed the gap nationally.
>>76587638
>Most people don't care about her emails
Trump will make them care.
>>76587382
Yes. Lots of democrats are upset at Obama for being the same as Bush by not closing Guantanamo, bailouts and wars. Lateily, he's been on the recovery for the Democrats by doing shit like this to make people feel good.
>>76587183
Trump could take NH pretty easily and makes gains in the rest of New England if he spent some time meeting with law enforcement and talking about dealing with the heroin problem. It's an issue he's well suited to talking about and Hillary isn't.
>>76577495
>in an election that has been anything but status quo the results will be status quo
okay
This election is by no means in the bag, we are going to witness the lowest voter turnout in history whiich means anything can happen.
>>76587638
>Woooow such a big number :^)
guessed you missed how that number trumped most democratic turnouts in the state
:^)
>>76582767
>Trump who successfully took on 16 other candidates systematically destroyed a political regime, and triumphed over the very party while winning that same party over is going to do poorly in debates against a woman who's so horrifically corrupt she has to throw money at issues until it goes away.
It's not going to be easy but I think he has it, the only instance where I'd suggest him shrugging and going back to being rich is if Sanders agrees to a VP spot.
>>76587382
If Trump loses, no.
But Trump can win.
>>76587801
Sanders won't.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/09/hillary_clinton_sanders_brought_passion_but_hasnt_gotten_me_to_move_on_any_policies.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/08/bernie_sanders_addresses_excited_crowd_taking_the_fight_to_the_convention_the_struggle_continues.html
>>76587658
>Source is literally tumblr
Alright, so I ran the math.
If Trump went up 5% in every state, the electoral map would look like this. (Nevada left blank because there's no polling data from nevada)
>>76587658
>tumblr
wew
>>76582866
i never understood this graphic
>>76588024
care to post the math?
Why does it seem like winning the presidency is always such an uphill battle for the Republican candidate? Seems like they're always at a huge disadvantage and have to scrape by. Is there any truth in this, or does it just feel this way after 2 convincing wins by Obama?
Just seems like with California and New York the Dems have a huge advantage already.
>>76588024
remember how the DNC accused every Sanders voter in Nevada of being "violent chair-throwers?"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/chaos_at_nevada_democratic_convention_dnc_leaders_flee_building_as_sanders_supporters_demand_recount.html
>>76585061
wew
>>76588185
To quote Milo: the violence will come from the left wing.
>>76588162
>go to RCP
>look at every state
>+5 to Trump
It's not really that hard.
>>76588155
it polled like 10k people
but 44% of those polled were democrats
34% republican
and 11% independent
this is fucked up for many reasons
mainly that as you can see in the graph, independents are by and far our largest voting block at 43%
democrats and republicans are both overrepresented, while ignoring the largest and most important group, in favor of mainly more democrats.
>>76577495
No, there isn't. People vote very predictably inside their demographics, and those demographics have been tipping blue for decades. There are more people in the US that expect the government to tax others and give them free shit than there are actual responsible people now, and that will never change. Democrat strategy of importing votes and dividing us into everyone vs men with money has worked. Conservatives are done.
>>76585061
A lot of Bernfags hate her.
>>76588162
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
look at the averages and add five.
It is actually that simple.
>>76588024
A tie.
>>76588314
ohhhhhh, shit ok i get it now, thanks bro
>>76588024
MN and NM are stretches, but I think this is about how it will turn out.
MI and NV will be close too
>>76588155
So basically Reuters did a poll where 44% of the people sampled were Democrats, 11% of the people sampled were Independents, and 34% of the people sampled were Republicans
In reality, 30% of Americans are Democrats, 43% are independents, and 26% are Republicans.
This means that Reuters sampled:
>Democrats +14
>Independents -32
>Republicans: +8
Both Republicans and Independents skew for Trump. The only way they got their polls to skew for Hillary was oversampling Democrats
>>76588510
Here's a far more realistic tie scenario
>>76588613
>VA
>Hillary Clinton
Wew familam
>>76577495
I don't think it's possible to make an educated prediction until a debate.
>>76588695
It's far more realistic than a Blue Louisiana and a Red Washington state.
>>76588514
no problem awoo poster
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/09/obama_i_am_worried_about_the_republican_party.html
PRESIDENT OBAMA: The truth is I am actually worried about the Republican Party. This country works when you have two parties that are serious and trying to solve problems. And they’ve got philosophical differences and they have fierce debates and they argue and they contest elections. But at the end of the day, what you want is a healthy two party system... You want the Republican nominee to be somebody who could do the job if they win.
So I am actually not enjoying, and I haven’t been enjoying over the last seven years, watching some of the things that have happened in the Republican Party because there’s some good people in the Republican Party.
But what’s happened in that party culminating in this current nomination, I think is not actually good for the country as a whole. It’s not something Democrats should wish for. And my hope is, is that maybe once you get through this cycle, there’s some corrective action and they get back to being a center right party
>it is over
>>76588613
what happen if it ties?
>>76588569
MN will never go republican
Massachusetts and California have higher chances
>>76588854
battle to the death in an arena
>>76588854
Current House or Reps votes between the top 2
Paul Ryan (Speaker) has endorsed Trump
>>76578317
>>76582639
>>76588351
>one concern shill comes along
>makes 5-6 posts being a defeatist
>moves aside and then comes another
nothing to see here goyim
>>76588854
It goes to congress
>>76588825
>Trump is a far right candidate meme
He's literally the most liberal republican since Nixon. Fuck.
>>76588825
>corrective action
Trump is the correction.
The Democrats are long overdue for their own.
>>76577495
When Trump is winnng fucking Oregon...Who knows how well hes going to do.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/or/oregon_trump_vs_clinton-5892.html
>>76588854
goes to congress
>>76588825
Go figure he wants them to work together when his party has control of the white house.
>>76578799
That was before the largest economic collapse in 100 years
>>76585837
But Clinton could be pardoned.
>>76581953
Your PM is Blue Steel. You don't get to comment.
no, mexicans have already taken over
>>76577495
>trusting jewish polls
you brits are too pozzed
oregon is turning red = trump wins in landslide
>>76589043
Hes far right where it matters
>>76588854
house chooses the president from among the top 3 contenders in the electoral college.
each state gets 1 vote.
senate chooses the vice principal.
it's the INCOMING congress that votes, not the current congress.
the people who win their elections in november convene a special early session.
>>76589521
He is winning that poll because of white men...Liberals actually think they are going to switch to a man hating cunt
>>76589582
Apparently sane immigration policies means you are a "far right extremist." Even fucking commies didn't do open borders.
>>76578317
>>76589521
this poll is down to the #neverhillary bernouts that make up oregon.
though, they're extremely red if you get out to the rural areas.
it would take really high rural turn out with really low urban turn out for oregon to go red, but it would be fucking fantastic.
>>76588351
You do realize that taxes have been lower than they ever have been? Your statement makes zero fucking sense.
You've been brainwashed by the economic elite. The last 40 years have been a complete looting of the U.S.
>>76581233
a historic turnout is legitimately a lock. Craziest most engaging election ever, first election the masses are on social media, two celebrity candidates, Trump has riled up the white trash Never-Voters.
>>76589821
>You do realize that taxes have been lower than they ever have been?
Good keep it that way.
>>76587455
you don't have to tell us you are a newfag
>namefag
>Lolbertarian
>>Will make greentext great again
>inconsistent captitalizaton
>>76584440
Our hispanic whites are generally descendants of people who never left after Texas became the Republic. They have no allegiance to illegals.
>>76589754
Its the deportation of 30 million people that make his immigration policies hard line.
Also his Economic ideas are very right wing...Milton Friedman was a trotskyist neo con
>>76587638
70k means the dems lose 70k votes and Trump gets 70k
>>76589821
>income taxes during both world wars
wew lad
>>76587247
at least 5 of these will happen
>>76589968
This
30% of hispanics identify as white...Because they are the average American hispanic has 70% European DNA
>>76590029
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
The increase in taxes is a result of the post-great depression social programs put in place by the greatest president this country has ever seen.
>>76589821
>marginal rates
kek.
you know the top marginal bracket in the 50s was $5,000,000, and effective rates were no where near that, even worse than what the gap between marginal and effective tax rate is today.
also, capital gains tax is only 15% if it's a long term investment of a year or more.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/us/politics/donald-trump-hires-pollster-for-new-york.html?_r=0&referer=
Donald J. Trump has hired a new pollster to help him capture an elusive Republican victory in New York, his home state, two people briefed on the move said.
>He's going to waste Hillary's time in Utica and Buffalo whle he wins OH, PA and FL
>>76589992
I guess. Eisenhower deported the shit out of people though. I don't think he is "far right."
>>76590149
I'm not talking about anything, you mong.
I'm amazed by the statistics.
>>76578892
So what's the solution? Do and say the actual morally and economically wrong thing to win over votes? It's like the LP party going for lefties, the lefties unequivocally hate them and think they're the alt-right, they'll never love them anyways so why give in on your convictions?
For example, republicans for the past 20 years have been caving in on social issues in favor of economic ones, and lefties still hate them because they want more regulation and a welfare state. It only led to a more liberal western society. You can't win by being a cuck anymore. We have to have a last hurrah. Best bet for liberty and freedom is a Trump dictatorship that lasts for at least 20 years to turn back the tide.
>>76582602
>trump will bring back dirigibles
Fund it
>>76589821
What is FICA tax?
>>76590239
Trump is literally just fucking with everyone at this point.
He knows he can use the MSM to campaign all day every day in all 50 states.
>>76588825
god damn i hate this nigger telling his opposition how to act and throwing campaign jibes into his official presidential appearance bullshit.
"happy memorial day, weren't those soldiers great. hey, trump is awful and he'll kill a bunch of soldiers, vote clinton"
fuck this mother fucking sack a shit.
fucking LBJ wannabe motherfucker.
>>76589821
>>76590149
Wait a second what? After 1945, the top tax rate went down to 91% and stayed that way throughout the 50s. Why does this graph dip down into the lower 80s in the late 40s?
http://taxfoundation.org/sites/default/files/docs/fed_individual_rate_history_nominal.pdf
>>76590473
it's the most regressive tax in history.
>>76590258
I'm sure it was a couple million at most when he did it...We are talking about a chunk of the American population.
But...When I was over my parents house on mothers day and we started talking politics my mom was literally in tears because the America she grew up in was gone and the only way to give her grandkids a real future was to do something extreme.....She apologized for voting Dem. for her entire life
The amount of redpills this election has dished out is amazing
>>76589821
Only not.
30% of the country's GDP is public spending. Somehow this is a travesty and the nation literally cannot function on less.
Except for all the times it did, all during a time so recent that there are people alive who remember it and were paying taxes then.
If you want trump to win you need to get the green party, or some other 3rd party, supported in the blue states that arent all or nothing in the electoral college.
All or nothing electoral states are kind of killing dimocracy desu senpai
>>76582767
>thinks that Hillary will debate Trump
You cuck - Clinton will NEVER a debate Trump.
dnd for the same reason that Cameron won't Debate Boris John or Nigel Farage face to face. Both of them know that an elitist can't compete head to head with a populist.
There will be NO debate.
>>76587410
hardly. With the amount of illegals, displaced nogs from Chicago, and Somalis up there it'll be as blue as it always has.
>>76590647
Do something extreme is right.
If you aren't saving up and buying a house or sizable asset to pass down, the income of your children will be looted. You will be at the mercy of your feudal landlords.
My parents gave me a down payment for a house at the bottom of the market. Today that house is worth double what I paid. I rent two of the bedrooms to friends and live here for free.
As a result, I can actively choose a lower income, or meaningfully save nearly all my income. My savings potential is more than 5 times that of my peers, even the ones who earn more than I do.
All because taxes are assessed heavily on income, leaving citizens no way to build their way into wealth.
>>76590776
Look what happened to Trump when he skipped one debate before Iowa..She literally can't skip the debate
>>76577495
>polls predict Jeb will beat Trump
>polls predict Carson will beat Trump
>polls predict that one guy that was popular for a week that I can't even remember will beat Trump
>polls predict Cruz will beat Trump
>polls predict Cruz won't beat Trump but that Trump will not be able to mathematically avoid the a contested convention
>polls predict Hillary will beat Trump
WOW TRUMP IS FINISHED I'M A ###CRUZMISSILE NOW
>>76591058
Assets are great but if Trump loses you should cash out and move to eastern Europe. The white privilege tax is coming
>>76591120
You listed Carson twice
