>A 19 year old Swedish man was found guilty of manslaughter today after having defended himself from an armed robber.
>The groundbreaking sentence determines that deadly force, neither intentional nor unintentional, for the purpose of self-defense is effectively illegal in Sweden.
>In December of 2015, the then 18 year old Swedish man was approached by two Iraqi robbers in the heavily immigrant area of Rinkeby in Stockholm.
>One of the robbers pointed a gun to the head of the victim while his companion yelled "Shoot him! Shoot him!".
>The Swedish man brought forth a knife and pointed it to the chest of the gun-wielding Iraqi.
>The Iraqi robber did not discontinue the robbery but instead continued walking towards the man while holding the gun towards his head.
>The Swedish man continued holding the knife towards the Iraqi's heart in a stalwart position until the Iraqi man walks in to the knife, piercing him immediately in the heart.
>The Iraqi robber later died of the injuries he sustained.
>While the court admits that the Swedish man acted in legitimate self-defense in a tumultuous situation and that he did not actively stab the robber, the court argues that "Before the robber brought forth the knife, the victim had the opportunity to call for help. He could also have run from the grip of the two robbers or could at least have attempted to do it."
>The court further argued that "Given the circumstances, we find that the victim of the robbery could have, in any possible scenario when the gun was brought forth, used the knife in a less devastating manner for the robber, than to point it at vital organs -- especially when the robber was moving his body towards the victim."
>"It is obviously indefensible to use deadly force in the present situation, even though the victim was in a legitimate position of shielding himself from the robber."
>The gun was later found to have been a masked soft airgun.
Is this the end of the rule of law in Sweden?
>>76537930
source:
http://www.friatider.se/tingsr-tten-rsvarligt-dra-kniv-mot-r-nare-som-riktar-pistol-mot-ditt-huvud-medan-kumpanen-skriker
>>76537930
The Swedish guy was sentenced to 2 years in prison for manslaughter.
Bump in the name of justice.
mfw
>>76537930
Lol how do you walk into a knife
>someone threatens to end your life in an illegal manner
>kill him in self defense
>simply because his skin is darker than theirs, he will now serve jail time
Holy shit sweden, do something about this trash.
>>76537930
Disgusting. I just ordered 3 more boxes of ammo and a new gun for you swedebro.
>>76538438
No one really knows how things turned out, but apparently the court accepted this defense and actively admits in the sentencing that the victim did not "actively stab the robber". But they still give him 2 years.
Presumably the situation only happened for a couple of seconds and he might have help up the knife and the shitskin quickly approached him and expected him to take the knife back.
>>76538816
Thanks. I didn't use to think a 2nd Amendment was important here 10 years ago, but now I want to be armed badly....
These Sweden memes are all /pol/ just making shit up right? There's no way a country can be this cucked.
This is one of the most disturbing things I've ever read desu.
Do you have a better source? I find that hard to believe.
Once someone threatens your life (pointing a gun at you), you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want.
Even here where socialist legislation is still in place (life>property idea basically), law clearly states that you don't have to run even if you potentially could run. You can kill a man who threatens your life.
So yeah, give me a source that's not right-wing portal because I find it impossible, this is insanity.
I give this story an A for effort and a C- for believability
May Dolph Lundgren have mercy on your souls.
>>76538893
Sounds reasonable. Most niggers aren't used to Swedes defending themselves, especially not with weapons.
>>76539232
>>76539353
This is from the court's own website.
http://www.solnatingsratt.domstol.se/Om-tingsratten/Nyheter-och-pressmeddelanden/19-aring-doms-till-2-ars-fangelse-for-drap/
>>76539232
>>76539353
It's real. Here's state media source:
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/tva-ars-fangelse-for-drap-i-rinkeby
>Instead, he was approached by two men, who pointed a gun at him. The gun later turned out to be an air pistol.
>The 19 year old man damaged one of the robbers in self-defense, but the robber was so badly injured he later died.
>The court finds that the 19 year old did act in self-defense, but finds that he used more force than was necessary. The court sentences him to 2 years in prison for manslaughter.
How's that strange? "Excessive self defense" (read; all self defense) is illegal in most of europe.
Your best bet is hope nothing ever to happens to you, but in case it does you'd better have good connections in the system.
>>76537930
>Is this the end of the rule of law in Sweden?
even Jesus's disciples carried swords
take the cross out of your flag, antichrist
>>76539712
How is stabbing someone armed with a gun "excessive"? You can't run. Calling for help will do no good, you'll be dead before police arrives. Your only option is to kill them before they kill you. There is no time for rational thinking, you have to act as fast as you can.
>>76539712
Yeah, and that's fucking madness. In this case the court even agrees that the guy didn't even actively stab the robber & that the death was unintentional and took place some time after the robbery took place.
>>76539680
>>76539685
Thanks.
This is a ridicule of law. He has a right to appeal right? At worst he can appeal to ECHR and win. Is there a name of judge(s) who passed this sentence?
>>76539712
When someone is threatening you with a weapon, no defense is excessive. So you're wrong.
It those cases defense can only be excessive if you disarmed your opponent and then proceed to injure him or kill him, if he was lying on ground for example.
But as long as he hold the weapon and threatens you, you're allowed to do whatever you can to neutralize him, even kill him.
>>76537930
Let's be honest, the outcome wouldn't be different in any other western European country
how can this shit even happen?
how fucked do you have to be in the head to think self defense is illegal and that in a split second you have to worry about the life of the attacker that wants to take yours.
>>76537930
Well, he's going to prison, so he should be happy about moving to the whitest neighborhood in Sweden.
>>76540208
>neutralize or (gasp!) kill him
That's the authorities' job, citizen ;^)
And your thinking is naive. "fighting back" is suicidal whether you win or not. If you are going to do it better go all the way and try to get rid of the corpse.
>>76537930
What the fuck even is Europe?
My neighbor shot a guys truck full of holes for egging his house and the police weren't even called.
If this happened here in Texas the Swedish guy would be on the news as a hero.
Jesus Christ, Sweden
Over here a robber broke into a man's house while he was home. The owner ended up chasing the robber onto the front lawn, and killing him with a fucking hammer over a suitcase the robber had taken with him.
He's a free man. And we're the country of DUDE WEED
>>76540073
So they robbed him, and then threatened him with a gun?
>>76540259
This is a precedent.
They threatened him with a gun.
Then they established he didn't want to kill this guy.
I assure you that no sane judge(s) would sentence someone for this (if this is how it happened).
>>76537930
Just die already, Sweden. I'm tired of watching you suffer.
>>76540597
Yes I'm pretty sure he would also get sentenced in Germany, UK, France, Switzerland, etc.
>>76540053
>How is stabbing someone armed with a gun "excessive"?
Pretty sure that just using a knife, even if you don't cut anything with it, falls into the "excessive" category here.
Couldnt anyone just kill all jews,muslim and niggers and cucks serving the jewish agenda in Swedem from now on and then sue them if they defend themself?,
How are they going to stop us? Kill us? Its illegal now, lol
>>76540539
Again, false, I studied law and European law is generally similar in basic norms.
Excessive defense doesn't apply when your life is threatened.
You're thinking of cases of theft, where owner injures thief gravely, or kills him. That is excessive defense of your property, because communists held that life is more valuable than any property. And you're allowed to defend your property, but not excessively (causing grave bodily harm).
But it doesn't apply in this case.
>>76540208
Yeah he will probably appeal to Supreme Court.
>>76540259
Hard to say. This case is extraordinary because the court actively agrees that:
1) The guy did not actively stab the robber
2) The guy unintentionally killed the robber in self-defense
3) The robber did not die at the location of the robbery, but died within 1 hour on a different location
4) The victim of the robbery did not know the robber was critically injured and had no intention of killing him.
5) The victim of the robbery was in a legitimate position of self-defense and had a gun pointed to his head
The court's arguments are just absurd. According to the official documents, the court argues that the victim of the robbery "had an opportunity to scream for help" and "had the opportunity to run from the grips of the robbers, or could at least have attempted to run".
The court sentences him to 2 years in prison on grounds that, quote:
>"The 19 year old man showed purposeful negligence at the moment of the robbery. The level of force used in his act of self-defense is OBVIOUSLY unjustified and the court determines that the circumstances were not such that the 19 year old was unable to bethink himself".
>>76537930
wait the dopey sandwog even killed himself? Ebin
>>76537930
Jesus christ the officials involved in that case have no grasp on reality, the last thing you think about when you are attacked with a weapon is "Gee, I wonder how I can defend myself without killing the guy."
WHEN WILL REASONABLE SWEDES START A SEPARATIST MOVEMENT WITHIN SWEDEN!?
Stop paying taxes and live in a kibbutz with like minded individuals and violently defend against government encroachment.
The muslims do it so can the native swedes.
>>76540306
they were just trying to appropriate funds from a privileged cis white male to help them buy some bread for their starving families and he went and stabbed them
Do you Swede bros think its gonna be bad when this cultural pendulum inevitably swings back in the other direction? Are you going to go full Fash, or just reinstitute western civilization? Or is it going to be when Sweden becomes a caliphate?
>>76540259
We had a case a couple of years ago. An old man waited for Irish Travellers to come around to his house. He shot one of them in the back and then beat him on the ground with a stick. It was eventually ruled to be self defence.
The government then clarified that you can legally kill someone if they attack you or threaten your home.
>>76540832
Please tell me the proper way for citizens to defend themselves against someone armed with a gun and with the intent to kill you.
>>76537930
Holy shit. At first I thought the whole race war thing would be joke, like the people would come to their senses and just send them back.
>>76537930
How to fix Sweden
€ 500 paid per kill
€ 1000 for a multi-kill
€ 1800 for a triple kill
€ 2500 for a quad kill
€ 5000 for a rampage
€ 10.000 for a monster kill
>>76541176
Hopefully we will mirror the Finnish civil war, especially the aftermath.
>>76540616
I hope Sweden dies and goes in a civil war.
Sweden should not be considerd a Nordic country any more.
I'm just glad walking with knifes in my country is considerd normal
>>76537930
Do you actually have a link to the article or are you gonna expect us to believe your bullshit story because we're "such good friends"?
>>76540961
My guess is the court simply considers it normal robbery and drops the whole gun in the head and "shoot him" as attempts to scare.
Again I'm surprised non yuros are shocked at this. It's pretty normal.
>>76540574
if it happened here in texas the two would be robbers would still be arrested
>>76541176
It swings like it did in Germany.
Fiscal insolvency is the trigger. Cops and soldiers don't show up if they aren't paid.
>>76537930
Would the courts ruling have been the same if the attackers were Swedish?
Self defense laws and stand your ground laws are a fucking joke in Europe. You literally have no rights
This shit is beyond a joke Sweden. Its demoralizing to just here this shit, let alone live it. Sort your fucking shit out
>>76538229
Isn't Swedish prison basically just vacation?
>>76541815
Sweden will be studied centuries from now as a case study of behavioral sink.
>>76537930
So now murderous criminal shit bags have more rights than legitimate victims of crime. So begins the end of a nation.
>>76541401
They can't do that. Armed robbery is a threat to your life. You are allowed to kill him.
>>76541603
I'll still take killing whatever cunt is trying to end my life and then going to jail over lying down and taking it.
It's a completely useless deterrent. When your only choices are to die or go to jail then you don't really have a choice to begin with and the punishment is pointless.
Swedish posters, I expect to hear of lynchings within the month.
Get to it, or turn in your testicles at the nearest police station.
I would rampage if I were this kid. Kidnap and rape the wife of the judge. Start murdering shitskins in broad daylight.
hypothetically lel :^)
>>76541338
Your government treats foreign thieves and rapists like they are sacred, 3rd world men with double digit IQ. They your own young men like they are expendable.
I wouldn't blame you no matter what. I just don't want to see a war in Europe like that though.
>>76542396
>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/10234986/Swedish-men-told-to-beware-testicle-munching-fish.html
That is, if any of them still have testicles
>>76537930
What a shothole.
>>76542543
MEXICO is even calling sweden a shithole. Jesus christ, this is a new low. Even for Sweden.
>>76542525
...
>>76542617
I mean damn, how can a country be so shit to the point that it's illegal to defend yourself againts sand niggers pulling guns and knives on you?
I'm sorry, but that is the ultimate shit pit.
>>76537930
Fuck you Sweden.
>>76539712
seems to be the case for police officers though.
>>76542842
You're completely right. At that point the government is admitting that your life is worth less than that of the assailants.
I've read lots of articles on people shooting home invaders/robbers/muggers here in the states, and I have yet to see one where any of them were convicted. I think this is actually the first time I've ever seen anyone in any country convicted for what the court admits to be self defense. Usually if they get convicted it's because the court ruled it was not self defense
>>76542953
Man if I wasn't on a mobile Id be tempted to get a Canadian IP and say something like
>Yeah! He should've got a life sentence!
>>76542525
lol british bring bantz
>>76537930
Swedish men you now have an obligation to free that man from jail by force, hold a hearing, and pardon him. How far will you let this go?
I was going to say something along the lines of: "Ahahahaha, fucking cucks, kill urself", but then I remembered
>old man in gypsy-infested village gets house invasion
>he knows they're going to beat him to death because gyppos
>pulls gun and shoots on in the hand
>they all run away
>old man is arrested as well
>the fucking gyppo actually presses charges for damages to his person (a stitched up hand)
America, pls invade, Europe is beyond saving ;_;
>>76543409
>It's not normal to get your testicles bitten off, of course, but it can happen, especially now in Sweden.
Fucking kek I didn't even read it too carefully
>>76537930
The remaining white people should immediately flee Sweden now, this verdict is a siren call to criminals of colour to take from you whatever and whenever they wish. Get out now, keep your friends and family safe. Dont delay.
Was the victim white? Let me guess.
>>76539079
The first amendment and the second are the foundation of a free society. One gives you a peaceful means to protest a corrupt government. The second allows you to remove it if your protests go unheard.
People think this speech is just vitriol. I assure you its not. Millions of americans, enough to make it matter, take this very seriously. What the average happy suburban family fails to understand is that those millions are literally hanging by a thread praying we turn around so we don't have to burn this corruption to the ground.
I can not comprehend how Europe allowed itself to get to the point it's at now. It is truly sad.
>>76537930
>Nigger pointing gun at your face
>He could have run or call for help
Can we finally bomb this shit stain country?
>>76542138
It is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
>>76544278
World wars sonny,
the bravest died
the sanest fled
the resistant broke
the rest got indoctrinated
I am grateful for commies now, they tried to beat us so much, that they kept our pride and culture intact.
>Courts sentencing people for defending themselves or their property
>>76544278
One hundred million dead in wars in a 30 year period will do that to a continent.
What Americans forget is that they've almost reached the point that Europe is (and in many cases, worse) without any sort of conflict or prolonged violence on their territory since the US Civil War. Since the US Civil War, Europe has been far and away the most violent place on earth.
If WW1, WW2, the Spanish, Greek, Irish, German and various other civil wars and revolutions had happened in the United States you wouldn't have anything like the "rights" you have now. What's more impressive that Europe has actually managed to salvage anything and maintain any sort of standard of living.
The US brought in the AWB, Patriot Act, mass surveillance, capital punishment en masse over a few very small scale incidents, which in relative terms is far more reactionary.
I hope the judge gets robbed by some niggers
Need an english article to redpill normies OP
Gather as many Swedes as possible and do what needs to be done.
>>76537930
Sweden yes.
I am sad for you few surviving self-conscious Swedes.
>>76545206
A mass black on Swede bukkake orgy won't fix this.
>>76541281
Accept your fate and recite some appropriate verses from The Holy Quran while apologizing for being a white christian cis male.
Duh.
>>76544905
Is it reactionary when the laws are written before the event that supposedly prompts them?
rassist wite g ot wat eh desserted
>>76541865
if you a are not white and life beyond prison is worse
>>76544122
This, please come to American and help make us white again.
>>76537930
Not sure why the defendant isn't appealing this to a higher instance (maybe he is). As is the weight of this verdict is quite weak since it was done in the lowest court.
>>76537930
>literally holding a knife still and letting someone else walk into it, WHILE POINT A GUN AT YOU is illegal
Meanwhile, in a civilized society
>>76537930
If it happened in his home then he could have used any means necessary
>>76537930
>just run away from the bullets
honestly sweden deserves to be engulfed in the flames of mud-dom at this point. they're actively trying to destroy their own country, like some sort of mass suicide on a cultural level. pretty interesting desu.
>>76537930
Captain Sweden strikes again
>>76537930
it happens in some states in the US as well, unfortunately. anyone not loyal to Texas more so than the country itself is doomed these days.
>tfw my fantasy is Texas and Alaska teaming up to save the world
Goes to show, swedes themselves deserve no respect, and if you're male and swedish you deserve to be called female for the failure your nation, culture, and people have become.
he is not gonna serve a single day, he appealed he will be free by hovrätten and in the meantime he is free to go about his day as usual.
It is actually perfectly legal to kill in self defense but not sure why the retard told the story the way he did.
Or why the fuck he would be hanging out in the ghetto.
All he had to do was say
>I tried to run, couldn't because they held a grip on me (which he said they did,) and was forced to use self defense.
Swedish people are retarded, fact. No brains, they are like autistic elves.
I would have killed both and put the knife in the hand of the attacker and claimed I disarmed him and he tried to stab me as well as shoot. Again, retards.
>>76542090
Not in Swedistan apparently.
>>76537930
>used the knife in a less devastating manner
Holy shit, their courts are literally operating on the assumption that everyone is a ninja that can disable an armed opponent without killing them.
In the meantime, if you even made an aggressive move towards the judge in the court room you'd be riddled with hundreds of rounds of bullets.
>>76547272
There are thousands verdicts before this in the Supreme Court even that rules it is. Tingsrätten is the lowest instance court and filled with crazy feminists and Green Party fags, OP and friatider is just working for clicks. It will be overruled.
Is putting a gun up to the head of a person while screaming about blowing said persons brains all over the pavement for the purpose of extracting their wealth really that bad? I mean can you really blame the guy for running into the stationary knife of an oppressive patriarch? He OBVIOUSLY should have put his knife down even though he was literally tossed into what amounts to a life-or-death situation and stood his ground with a piece of sharp metal while the poor underclassman valiantly bullrushed him
I'm not saying Sweden should have guns but shit at least make so you don't have take 3 courses to get a permit just to have something to defend yourself with.
Unless grossly unjustified harm was done he shouldn't be prosecuted you know like capture tortured for days stuff like that.
>>76539079
Oh shit, local paper! Best letter ever written to the Hartford Courant
>>76537930
>until the Iraqi man walks in to the knife, piercing him immediately in the heart.
lol retard
>>76547698
This. Tingsrätten is basically the municipal court. You're lucky if at least one person has had a crash course in law. Everyone else is a SJW.
Hovrätten, the court of appeals, has professional lawyers at work.
This thread's a waste of time. Sweden has stopped being relevant a long time ago.
Is anyone still under the impression that there's any hope for it at all? It's over, guys. There won't be any justice anymore. Let it die. Ban Swedish posters from 4chan until they remove kebab. ETA never.
>>76537930
>>While the court admits that the Swedish man acted in legitimate self-defense in a tumultuous situation and that he did not actively stab the robber, the court argues that "Before the robber brought forth the knife, the victim had the opportunity to call for help. He could also have run from the grip of the two robbers or could at least have attempted to do it."
>>The court further argued that "Given the circumstances, we find that the victim of the robbery could have, in any possible scenario when the gun was brought forth, used the knife in a less devastating manner for the robber, than to point it at vital organs -- especially when the robber was moving his body towards the victim."
These are people who live in ivory tower, the same ones who say "why didn't the cop shoot the peaceful criminal in the leg?"
There is no compromise with these people. There is no way to structure a society with people like this making decisions for the people at large.
>>76548906
I hope that judges wife gets raped and murdered in front of him
>>76537970
jesus christ...
We currently have a massive problem with the police arresting people for "future/potential crimes". That is, taking away your driving license because you might drive while drunk, while never done so your entire life. Shit like this, actually one of very many in several law suits against the state that will typically drag out for 5 years or so.....
Anyways that shit is fucked... but this?!
I have no words.
Your contract with society is over Sven, you need to realize it. Your "government" seeks to destroy you, and you must fight these internal enemies with force. A bullet to the head of this judge would be a nice start.
It's time for a civil war. Right now I'm going downstairs and making a big fat steak.
>>76548892
>Sweden is irrelevant
Who are you?
Nobody.
>>76548800
Exactly
>>76540358
Underrated post
>>76537930
Sweden if the seven of you that still have your testicales don't fucking kill every member of this court and their entire family you deserve every one of your women being raped by Muslims.
>implying that isn't what a Swedecuck wants most
>>76537930
i'm sorry sweeden.
i'd invite you join us here in canada but i'm afraid you'd bring your poisonous ideals with you.
you shit the bed, you sleep in it.
>>76549065
Wait, explain future/potential crime
So doesn't this imply swedish life has no value?
RULE OF LAW BTFO
IF YOU WANT TO GET PAID TO RAPE AND MURDER GO TO SWEDEN
White people are worse than niggers these days
>>76537930
you poor fucks need your own breivik to fix this level of fuckery
good luck sven
>>76549145
Norway, please. You're first in line to become Sweden 2.0. I give it 5 years until your situation is the same. Just uninstall yourself from existence. You aren't worth the pixels.
>>76537930
>It is obviously indefensible to use deadly force in the present situation
I am officially triggered.
>>76549891
Ehh idk, I could see norway putting up a fight
>>76537930
Can we see if they'll deport this guy to the US so we can treat him properly?
That is, naturalize him on the spot for a reward?
Going to enjoy watching all remaining the non cucked swedes leave their country in disgust over the next decade. No good in having a comfy welfare state if you can't even defend yourself in your own goddamn homeland
>>76549891
Still don't know who the fuck you are, but you are not Russia. A Nobody.
>>76537930
i fucking hate you rootsi!
this is not normal anymore
Sweden
>Shitskin holds gun to your head
>You have a knife
>Shitskins "walks" into knife
Sven you should have thought about where you put that knyfe when he had that gun to your head.... you should have just stabbed him non lethal so he could kill you..
The verdict actually is so retarded to state this.
Obv if that stab comes, a bullet comes. This Sven did the right thing and should frankly not only be released but be recognized as a hero.
should have binned it while he had the chance
>>76537930
sweden for fucks sake get your shit together
>literally arrested for defending yourself
This is some kind of meme timeline where nothing makes sense.
I want to kill swedish and in part "swedish" gov officials, part FRA which is monitoring my every keystroke.
You hear that FRA you are a bunch of cock sucking faggots, those of you who haven't killed your selves from our bants yet... we will finish of during the invasion.
Get ready faggots, sweden is no longer a legitime state and fair game.
>soon
>again
How fucking far are we going to let this go?
Are we waiting for another major attack?
There are millions of us waiting on the fucking happening to start already.
We have to mold this conflict instead of letting the elite pull the strings.
>>76537930
This ia the first Sweden story in a long time that actually made me mad
I don't care cucks competing in self-abuse and refugee welcome sluts being raped but this made me legitimately angry
>>76537930
>he could have done this or that
Holy shit, those people have never been in a stressful situation in their lives, much less a life threatening one, to say shit like this.
>>76551755
its like that in denmark too wtf are you on about
>>76551730
If he had just given the poor migrant all of his possessions and a blowjob, none of this would have happened at least until the next week!
Honestly, this doesn't sound all that different from the deadly force self-defense laws in many American states.
Some states have "stand your ground" laws, meaning that the victim has no duty to retreat before using deadly force to stop the attacker. But, just as many - if not more states - require that the victim try to escape before he is legally allowed to use deadly force.
>>76541020
Anyone involved in that decision should be killed or imprisoned.
>>76537930
>The Swedish man continued holding the knife towards the Iraqi's heart in a stalwart position until the Iraqi man walks in to the knife, piercing him immediately in the heart.
What the fuck? This is like something out of a Japanese anime.
The only reason I can see for these fucked up laws is the complete pacification of a population.
>>76552293
its literally not though
>>76537930
>The Iraqi robber did not discontinue the robbery but instead continued walking towards the man while holding the gun towards his head.
>The Swedish man continued holding the knife towards the Iraqi's heart in a stalwart position until the Iraqi man walks in to the knife, piercing him immediately in the heart.
The fuck. Buggy AI, pls fix.
>>76541020
>"The 19 year old man showed purposeful negligence at the moment of the robbery. The level of force used in his act of self-defense is OBVIOUSLY unjustified and the court determines that the circumstances were not such that the 19 year old was unable to bethink himself".
Holy shit. Dude had a fucking GUN pointed to his head, the circumstances couldnt have been much worse for thinking rationally while making split-second life-saving decisions.
There better be an appeal, because this screams injustice.
>>76553553
guarantied that if the roles had been reversed the sandnigger would have walked because "muh PTSD"
This is just sweden doing swedish stuff. Like, its literally illegal to use the swedish flag on the swedish national day because its racist
anyone from finland want to go raid the cucks since its now legal there and they are so low energy they wont retaliate in other form than locking themselves in the cuck shed :D
we'll break into houses, take free shit, pcs, booze etc. their police is also cucked and wont do anything to mighty finns.
this is also SJW-correct because swedes oppressed us in the history. cant lose. braise genghis ok we must bring this raid tradition back to life
>>76537930
You must reject this insane speculation, which we call "Monday morning quarterbacking." The nature of combat is that you cannot have the same perfect knowledge that every pedant enjoys in a thought experiment. In real life the enemy gets a vote on how effective your plan is.
>>76554522
Can you explain helper to me first? What the fuck is up with finnish memes and why are they so funny?
>>76551993
>tfw you were forewarned
>>76540053
>How is stabbing someone armed with a gun "excessive"?
You're approaching this from the wrong angle. You're asking how it's excessive, but you mean in the real world. The law is a fiction with its own standards. Something can be totally morally justified in the eyes of most people and still against the law. So what you need to realize is that the law is out to get you, and when you do what's morally right in a serious situation the police will often hunt you down like an animal and deliver what's left of you to arbitrary, partisan courts.
>>76539685
Wait, is this woman your minister of culture?
O I am laffin
>>76554936
Finland is like that strange guy in the office who just amuses himself and doesn't give a shit about anyone else, except left isolated for centuries in a frozen swamp.
Finnish shitposters are uniformly world class shit posters. God bless you Finland.
>>76538438
Idk some euro thing with knives its like they all have shanks
>>76555416
Yes
>>76554936
here is the prime minister apu apustaja tard pepe needing helb helber with refugees
the meme started when someone kept posting images of the retarded pepe to ylilauta /b/ and telling how "food help helper is late" with lot of typos or other things a retard would say about nurse/social worker bringing him food
finnish ebin menes born like this: a meme is too shitty to qualified a shitty meme and the finally shittiness turns into ebin. its like a black hole or something
>>76546063
HEADSHOT!
>>76555416
>Thought it was 4chan memery
>It isn't
When I was kid I couldn't wait to grow up. What a fucking depressing reality.
>>76552491
Lies
If you perceive your life is in danger (hes pointing a perceived gun at you and threatening to kill you) then you can shoot him.
Were cucked by jews up top not cucked by muslims in the streets
>>76546063
So that guy got off free?
>>76543385
kek
How is this even real? If this happened in America the entire country would implode. There would be mass flag waving protests in every city in America. This country would be so great if we booted out all the blacks and hispanics.
>>76554995
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY
We were warned so many times its retarded
>everything Stanley Kubrick did
>>76541342
you're absolutely right not exactly Finlandbro
>>76555423
shut up leprechaun
>>76555416
shut up favela dweller
>>76555623
shut up burger
>>76537930
>Before the robber brought forth the knife, the victim had the opportunity to call for help.
>bullet to the head
>He could also have run from the grip of the two robbers or could at least have attempted to do it
>bullet to the back of your head
well I guess the judeges would have acted in good old captain sweden manner, dropped on their knees and gave them a blow job and let them fuck their ass.
>>76555706
shut up meatball
>>76556463
Another crisis resolved by tolerance!
Sweden needs a hero
>>76539712
>be American
>at night
>hear noise in garage
>see person rummaging through garden tools
>shoot 'em
>receive medal and golden burger
Dog bless this land.
>>76555423
>Italian Intellectuals
>>76555986
Most likely, yes.
Jesus christ sweden. You're not gonna break out of being the confirmed most cucked country in the world are you? It's only going to get worse isn't it?
Nuke sweden when.
>>76556242
TDK/Sandy Hook/what happened to him afterwards always gets me. It feels like it's put out as an open secret, but never discussed so when it is discussed it can be disregarded as a fringe theory cloaked in pure coincidence.
>>76556852
John Ausonius was the hero Sweden needed, he just did it at the wrong time.
>>76537930
What a shit hole. I'm glad you guys are officially an Orwellian dystopia.
>>76554522
Can I join you fin bro on your modern day Viking raid?
>>76537930
SWEDEN YESSSSSSS
Kek.
Even my country isn't as cucked.
Some lady shot two Moroccan armed robbers dead in her store and all she got was a fine for unlawful possession of a firearm (strict no fun laws here).
>>76537930
God, I hate Sweden.
>>76541342
Thanks, i needed that flag
>>76537930
This one isn't funny at all, you should be fucking ashamed of your entire country and every government official involved with this should be dragged into the streets and left to hang for a month with penalty of death for anyone who cuts them down.
>>76540835
BEWAHAH
Thank you Sweden every time I wonder how Canada could fall any farther you remind me it could be worse
jesus fucking christ Sweden
I don't even feel any Schadenfreude. Europe being cucked on self-defense isn't new, and there have been similar cases across the EU. But here we have a nigger POINTING A GUN at the guy and apparently the Swede didn't even stab but somehow the nigger WALKED INTO the knife, and yet the Swede GETS FUCKING JAILED FOR TWO YEARS for it.
This is a ban on self-defense of ANY kind and basically a declaration of war by the government upon its own people. Swedes are outlawed, you may attack them, you may rob them, you may kill them, and if they resist then the state will see to it that they are punished for their resistance.
If I were a Swede, I would respond to this declaration of war in kind.
>>76537930
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/sweden-migrant-beat-and-murdered-gay-man-sentenced-mere-4-years-prison
>Only 2 more years
>>76557417
>american flag experts
>>76556416
I think it's fine, Sweden needs to see that even Brazil can mock them now.
>>76537930
>>The court further argued that "Given the circumstances, we find that the victim of the robbery could have, in any possible scenario when the gun was brought forth, used the knife in a less devastating manner for the robber, than to point it at vital organs -- especially when the robber was moving his body towards the victim."
This is it. Burn it to the ground. Its over. The liberals will want this shit here.
>>76537930
Seriously fuck Sweden.
>>76555986
The cops probably congratulated him and apologized for all the paper work he had to fill out.
What was the judge's name?
Who are the politicians who brought that law into effect?
If you break into the home of one of the progressive Swedish parliament, can you kill them with impunity?
If you go to one of the leftist areas and drive your car through a group of Antifa and kill them, do you get comfortable accommodations like Brevik did in Norway?
is it illegal for a swedish woman to object to fiki fiki yet? she must not resist and have muhamads baby.
>>76556930
>ruining the day for every ayy garrison
I like to add to the Sweden is cucked banter here, but I truly feel sorry for your people. The golden one had a video not long ago explaining how this mindset exists and it really cleared up the situation for me. In case you haven't seen it, he argues that Sweden has always been a very pious and religious society, and is now except the new religion is liberalism. That is how seemingly rational people can blindly have faith in these ideas despite the evidence to the contrary. I pray to Lord Kek you'll someday be freed.
>>76553368
It is, but we would call it 'involuntary manslaughter' and he probably wouldn't get a prison sentence, only a mark on his record.
>>76539232
EVEN LITTLE MONTENEGRO
>>76552074
Okay then what should we do about it? This better not end up like that /k/ stalker challenge I had planned with some dude that never went anywhere. Where do we sign up?
>>76537930
omg dude, leave now it's only getting worse- escape while you still can
try to move to america legally you can shoot to kill in self defense
my god... that is a fucked up situation
>>76537930
>tfw these guns are illegal weapons
I'm talking about my muscles.
>>76537930
Is there something in the water in Sweden that makes them this cucked?
This is pure unfiltered insanity
>>76560020
O you cheeky sonuvabitch
>>76560768
Why don't you just give them permission to stop hating their kind? They're waiting on your approval.
>>76555972
Not exactly. If you choose not to retreat, then in court the jury will evaluate whether or not this decision was reasonable under the circumstances. If they decide that it was unreasonable that you decided not to retreat, then you are going to jail.
>>76537930
So Sweden will become the new haven for criminals I guess.
Just kill some dudes and if you somehow end up in jail it will be comfy so you cant really lose.
mfw
>>76554415
exactly, they just want to punish him for killing one of his non-white overlords.
>>76537930
This has to be a joke.
Australia has insanely tough self defense laws (no castle doctrine or stand your ground laws here). But this wouldn't even go to court here.
The guy didn't if stab him. The man attacking him stabbed himself to death. I'm not even sure how that qualifies as manslaughter.
>>76538438
England's ban on knives doesn't seem crazy now. Eurotards don't know how to use them.
>>76561173
Can't do that yet, not after the eternal victim has just had a shooting to contend with.
Man if I were some criminal reading this I would be thinking about heading over to Sweden right about now to do whatever the fuck I wanted, who's going to stop me? I bet even their police are super cucks.
>>76538785
He didn't even kill him. The guy killed himself. He just facilitated it.
It's funny...in Sweden if a guy talks you into having sex with him, it's rape. If a guy holds a gun to your head, it's your duty to run away.
What a fucking disgusting country.
>>76561677
Sweden is literally in a state of collective insanity, don't try to make sense of this shit
>>76561173
european liberals have been cucking israel for decades, we can't fight for over a week without those faggots crying over the dindus. the cucks deserve everything they brought upon themselves. if they love arab dick so much let them choke on it tbqh.
>inb4 joos did everything
all cucks need to die jews or otherwise
[spoiler] sweden is the most cucked nation on earth [/spoiler]
If ANYONE breaks into my house I can legally shoot them. If ANYONE attacks me with a weapon, I can shoot them. Or stab them. Or hit them with whatever is handy.
Fuck the regressive left, fuck swedish politicians, and fuck the EU for damning their own men in exchange of shitty muslim scum
>>76544122
Go to somalia and cuck THEM instead. Lets see how they like athiest refugees with 3 inch cocks molesting their little boys
>>76540053
He didn't even stab him. He held a knife up to encourage the attacker to not continue attacking him.
I'm honestly not sure what the desired alternative is other than "be murdered".
I really wonder why he thought buying alcohol in rinkeby was a good idea. He brought a knife so he must have realised it wasn't so smart.
What frightens me the most is where these Swedish people will move to once they abandon their lost country.
No seriously what the fuck went so wrong?
For you Swedes, I don't see how this isn't the final straw. You legally are not allowed to even defend yourselves anymore. You will go to jail for not letting yourself get murdered. How are you okay with this?
>>76562078
The court believes he should have screamed for help and attempted to flee, or to put it more accurately expose his anus in the hopes that the attacker would take out their minority frustrations on it instead.
>>76541020
>Yeah he will probably appeal to Supreme Court.
This.
Tingsrätten is notorious for being shit. IIRC they are stacked with politicians who make the judgement.
Friend in prison told me 80% of cases get taken to next instance of court after the joke court that is tingsrätten.
>>76560138
Do they not understand what a gun is?
Do they expect every person to be a knife attack and medical expert?
They have a legal system that is so fucking dumb that they operate at the level of an angry 12 year old that asks why police don't just shoot the knife out of the hands of cranked up PCP fueled attackers charging at them.
>the court finds that Swede Bro should have disarmed the assailant and used martial arts to make the two thieves run into each other and knock themselves out. As evidence we would like to submit this scene from the movie Taken 3 and this youtube video by a Kung Fu televangelist.
>>76540259
>Let's be honest, the outcome wouldn't be different in any other western European country
Not in Portugal, self defence is well enshrined in the jurisprudence of this country, article 32 of the Penal Code:
> “Self defense constitutes the act used as the necessary mean to repeal the current and illicit aggression of juridically protected interests of the agent or third parties”
There is jurisprudence both for people acquitted based on this defence and for people having convictions upheld because they failed to prove the immediate need.
There are five objective and one subjective elements that the courts must use when determining the validity of self defence claim:
> (i) the violation of juridically protected interests of the agent of third parties
> (ii) the "freshness" of the aggression
> (iii) the illegality of the aggression
> (iv) the actual need of defence
> (v) the actual need of the mean of defence
> (vi) the knowledge of the illicitute
A woman was acquitted after killing her husband with an axe a couple of years ago. She alleged self defence and it was proved that she was for 40 years a victim of domestic abuse.
Usually in situations like the Swedish one prosecutors don't even start a case, when robbers get shot and killed the state sometimes even congratulates the person.
The good part of the story is that a swede stabbed a dindu to death at least
Man if I was him I'd be so fucking pissed off now
>>76537930
i hate this multicultural world. before multiculturalism we didn't need to defend ourselves.
>>76562293
I could almost believe this if they were armed with a bat or fists. But a gun?
Do they realize guns fire bullets? They aren't clubbing weapons.
>White guy screaming for help in an ethnic ghetto
That's like putting blood in the water if a shark is circiling you.
This is yet another case of leftist ideology being utterly divorced from reality and then being implemented in the real world.
>>76562649
read this and stop memeing
>>76562783
> a swede stabbed a dindu to death at least
Not even that oldest ally, according with the transcripts translated by swedes above the dindu walked himself in the knife and the victim didn't have the time to take it back.
That's like another level of cuckoldry and stupidity
Yea... Tingsrätten.
It will be ruled as self defence / not guilty of manslaughter in hovrätten fo-shooo
>>76537930
Jesus Christ i thought we had shitty self defence laws but even over here if you defend yourself against a bloke pointing a gun at your head whilst another guy is shouting "shoot him" with a knife is counted as actual self defence
>before the robber brought forth the knife, the victim had the opportunity to call for help.
right i'll remember that in hostage situation, just immediatly start screaming, that wont set of any extreme reactions from the gunman no sir
> He could also have run from the grip of the two robbers or could at least have attempted to do it
these people don't seem to understand that someone with a gun can shoot you from a distance, running away or not, also i'd like to see them risk thier lives by making a run for it whilst having a gun pointed at them
>used the knife in a less devastating manner for the robber, than to point it at vital organs
yep that's the ticket just wound the guy with the gun, don't kill him, just stab his arm a little, i'm sure there will be no ramifications for such an act
i refuse to believe this is real, i really do
>>76537930
I'M BEYOND MAD I BET THE JUDGE IS WAS A FEMALE
>>76537930
In the US at Gonzaga University, a recently released multiple felon walked into dorms and tried doors looking for one that was unlocked. He happened across two students, one of whom was "illegally" carrying. The armed student was able to scare the felon away without shooting, which is what normally happens when a criminal sees that you are not easy prey. The student got in trouble for having a gun on campus.
On a radio show discusding this, a guy called in and said, "yeah, but you don't need a gun, one goid elbow to the jaw --"
We need to rudely awaken these liberal morons who think they are going to kung fu their way away from a six foot tall felon.
also the kid was fucking 18 years old, almost a minor, definitely a nice way of ruining a life
>>76549581
Can't explicitly arrest you for wrongthink
>>76562781
> “Self defense constitutes the act used as the necessary mean to repeal the current and illicit aggression of juridically protected interests of the agent or third parties”
That's pretty enlightened. New Zealand law is quite generous with allowing you to defend yourself, but gives you no provision whatsoever to defend someone else.
![020412_jagdkommando_tri_blade_knife_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wDbLJ9t.jpg "020412_jagdkommando_tri_blade_knife_1[1].jpg")
>>76555623
>shanks
I wish. This beauty is illegal to carry in most US states as well I think. Don't google it, you'll only find retards trying to actually use the edges of the blades to cut paper or something. It's a legitimate shank, creates a difficult to seal wound channel and could probably easily penetrate the kind of cheap michelin-man jacket niggers like to wear whenever it's below 20 celcius.
Swedes. Break him out. Start fighting for a real change.
>>76546063
>armed niggers roaming the land
>civilized society
You might want to re-evaluate that statement.
>>76544278
>The second allows you to remove it if your protests go unheard
It's obsolete in this day and age. Even if every American owned an assault rifle and was trained in its use, the American military could obliterate the entire American populace with ease thanks to:
1) Body armor
2) Superior training and tactics
3) Superior organization
4) Mechanized support
5) Armored support
6) Artillery support
7) Air support
All of which are advantages that even a nationwide militia would never be able to acquire.
The only valid reason to have the 2nd Amendment anymore is for self-defense against criminals.
>>76537930
This conviction is absolutely ludicrous. But it sounds like the defence managed to get away with something too. I mean one does not simply walk in to knives.
>>76537930
Dont you have Jury Trials? every time someone murders in self defense they go to Jury trial here and are acquitted despite the judge and police throwing a tantrum.
>>76563549
Moronic bootlicker detected.
>>76537930
>running from a gun
somebody shot the judge pretty fucking please
the world needs to be rid of these people if its ever going to get any better
lul it was a soft air gun.
I bet the lad is part finnish. Who else carries a knife and delivers liquor to Rinkeby
>>76537930
Didn't you guys already know this was the case? I could have sworn that I've seen Swedes on /pol/ make similar claims in the past (one claimed there really aren't any decent self defense laws in Sweden).
Maybe it was a German or some shit.
>>76541020
>>"The 19 year old man showed purposeful negligence at the moment of the robbery. The level of force used in his act of self-defense is OBVIOUSLY unjustified and the court determines that the circumstances were not such that the 19 year old was unable to bethink himself".
Fucking kikespeak. Hope they guy gets off on appeal and all behind that verdict get mugged themselves.
>>76537930
This is what you get for letting JEWS RULE YOUR COUNTRY
KILL EVERY JEW NOW BEFORE THEY KILL YOU
>>76537930
I can't help but feel real sorry for you
>>76541198
Yeah, I remember that one. Great moment for Irish justice, plus the lefties+knackers getting BTFO.
