Apparently voting offices counted letter votes that have not been sealed at all and showed up there god knows how, among other abnormalities in 94 of 117 regions.
http://www.fpoe.at/artikel/hc-strache-fpoe-ficht-bundespraesidentschaftswahl-an/
Poor Antifa is going to have to counterfeit 50000 votes all over again, maybe their hands will fall off.
>>76529687
I don't speak austrian, what's in there?
>>76531089
Leftist were careless and left massive evidence of voting fraud, enough to bring it to court (which is a requirement in Austria, you can't just say "muh, I don't like how the election went").
- 81k letter votes without envelope
- 30k letter votes were reported when they just started counting them
- 58k votes were counted by people who didn't work for the office
>>76529687
That sign reminds me of the Aldi sign.
>>76531656
Hofer is the Aldi Süd of Austria.
>>76531656
>>>76529687 (OP)
>That sign reminds me of the Aldi sign.
Thats because it is the aldi sign
>>76529687
JAAAA HEIL HOFER
>>76531816
>>76531838
Roger. Aldi is pretty nice - I wasn't sure if they were just in the U.S./Germany or not.
>>76532006
We have a few.
What are the chances this will succeed? How cucked are Austrian courts?
No counting by independent party this time?
>>76529687
for a moment i though this was the aldi logo
>>76529687
It's getting even better than that.
http://m.diepresse.com/home/politik/innenpolitik/5007314/index.do
I opened a bottle of beer after that: Gibt es dann keinen neuen Bundespräsidenten, wird er in diesem Amt laut der Verfassung von den drei Nationalratspräsidenten vertreten. So könnte auch der nach jetzigem Stand unterlegene Wahlwerber, Norbert Hofer, in seiner Eigenschaft als Dritter Nationalratspräsident die Hofburg-Aufgaben aufnehmen.
Prost my friends!
>>76531562
Lel good old postal vote fraud.
Daily reminder that 25% of all votes in Germany are postal votes - 20 million votes - and that the OECD already criticized the Merkel government for non-existing safeguards in 2009. German postal votes arent even counted seperately from ballot votes.
Postal votes are illegal in France, reason cited for the ban: national security.
It's funny how mass media narrative suddenly changes. I have i24news installed on my iPhone and I get push notifications on the news. The thing is and I assume it happens with other media: after losing election suddenly FPÖ is simply called FPÖ "Austrian FPÖ presidential candidate Höfer accepts defeat" then suddenly today "Austria Far-right files legal challenge to presidential vote: court"
Coincindence, I think not check other mass media sources. KEK
>>76532801
Could you sum up this article?
>>76532818
Yes, but Germany never demanded consequences when bags with voting letters appeared out of nowhere.
>>76532006
Yeah they are one of the bigger budget stores here their competition being lidl
>>76531562
Lel
It'll be the end of the leftist party I reckon
>>76532373
Austrians plz I'm asking that too
>>76533038
Most people in Germany don't know about this. Luegenpresse + Internet censorship, how could they?
>>76533038
In my town of 8000 there were 0 votes for AfD last election. I was one of the people that voted AfD. We organized on facebook with other AfD voters - 65 total that showed up - and demanded a recount. The request was completely ignored. So one of us went to the local press and tried to get them to publish it as a story. They kicked him out of the press building and threatened to call the cops on him.
>>76529687
sehr schön.habe das ganze ding geschaut .
gebe einer NEUWAHL gute chancen anhand der dieser GRAVIERENDEN FEHLER die da passiert sind...
die ANGELOBUNG von bellen ist schon alleine von den dokumentierten fällen ABZUSAGEN
rein aus PRINZIP.
Oh man there's actual evidence of it and it's being taken to court?
Holy shit anons this could be the kick off to the happening
>>76534177
I thought there might be a glimmer of hope for Germany, but now I see that there is literally no hope for Germany, m8, what are you doing there if there is literally no hope left for germany.
>>76531562
which office?
>>76532006
The only thing nice about Aldi is the quality to price ratio
Cheap as fuck for average products.
A lot of middle class folk shop there. Which is funny because for many years it was seen as a shitty lowest of the low supermarket that only council housed chavvos shopped at.
>>76534560
Stop with defeatist mentality. I am sure that after ww1 Germany was broken and no German thought they could rise to power again.
We can conquer Germany and save Germans Polan
>>76534177
Wow, I'm sorry.
Did you try to take it to a state attorney?
>>76534672
They weren't registered as vote counters in the respective voting offices.
>>76534757
Their labor model helps them do that. Have people bag their own groceries and employ the minimum necessary to operate the store = cheaper labor costs which equates to an ability to sell goods more cheaply and thus be more enticing to consumers.
>>76534289
wenn die neue regierung wirklich ernst genommen werden will sollte sie bereits mit hochdruck an einem neuen wahltermin arbeiten.
vielleicht steht ja bis ende der woche schon ein neuer termin fest für: baldigst.
wir dürfen gespannt sein.
>>76534935
Oh ok then, that's fucking bullshit if true
>>76534827
German state attorneys answer to the executive government, they arent independent like in the USA and elsewhere.
>>76535025
I realize that haha
I don't mind though. Nothing wrong with Aldi really, not some snob. They've really turned their image around with a recent-ish ad campaign as well, probably had something to do with it. They need to change the logo though it looks like a relic of the 1990s
>>76534757
It's incredibly shit here in the states
The quality is horrendous and only the lowest shop at aldi. Been there a few times while I was at school and I quickly learned its not worth it
>>76535327
I'm glad I no longer pay taxes in Germany. That's horrifying.
>>76535380
thats not aldis fault thats americas fault your food is literally shit tier
>>76534757
my jewish (from fatherside so he is not a real jew) made lots of untaxed shekels as every learnt jew does but he always insisted on shopping at aldi and buying the lowest of low , then selling antique items for higher (with work done on them , so he was flipping stuff from the stupid goyim but he put in a lot of work polishing , repainting etc etc).
what im trying to say is , if you buy expensive "trademark" stuff from anywhere you are retarded and should check yourself.
>>76535371
>They need to change the logo though it looks like a relic of the 1990s
Yeah, it does give a 90's/late 80's vibe. Some people like that though.
>>76534811
Partitionings of Germany when?
>>76535049
die juden kontrollieren die linken und unsere nationen (österreich , ungarn , deutschland) sind gefickt.
endegelände.
alles von nun an ist nur wishful thinking und manische depression.
>>76534811
just take the black pill already.
>>76535547
I don't know where aldi gets their fruits and vegetables from so it may be our fault or aldis fault idk. But this applies to virtually anything sold there except pretzel rods
I wish I can recall where the foods originate from based on the packaging but I can't. Anyway the point being is that even nigger-tier food stores like Shop-Rite is 10x better than the garbage sold at Aldi.
>>76535711
>Madame Merkel
>REBUILD WALL
>>76532921
Sure
>Die FPÖ brachte eine 150-seitige Wahlanfechtung beim Verfassungsgerichtshof (VfGH) ein.
The FPÖ's challenging of this elecion counts 150 pages and they have sent it to the Verfassungsgerichtshof (Constitutional Cort) today.
>Die FPÖ konzentriert sich bei der Anfechtung auf die Wahlkarten. Hier seien in 94 der 117 Bezirkswahlbehörden Widrigkeiten festgestellt worden.
Postal votes are getting checked. Apparently they have found contradictions in 94 out of 117 offical polling stations.
>Bei 82 sollen die Briefwahlkarten vor dem eigentlichen Sitzungsbeginn vorsortiert gewesen sein, in nichtige und in gültige.
82 of those sorted the postal votes into valid and invalid before the offical commite was opened.
>In einigen Bezirkswahlbehörden sollen die in den Wahlkarten enthaltenen Stimmkuverts zu früh geöffnet worden sein.
Some opened the postal votes to early.
>Zudem sollen falschfarbige Stimmkuverts verschickt worden sein, deren Inhalt dann deswegen nicht mitgezählt wurde.
They used wrongly colored envelopes (which makes them invalid) for a lot of the votes.
>Und nicht befugte Personen sollen Stimmen ausgezählt haben.
Apparently some non-authorized people counted votes, which is illegal.
>Die FPÖ meint, dass 573.275 Wahlkarten von den Unregelmäßigkeiten betroffen seien.
The total number of postal votes that are fishy is 573 275. That's mor than half of all postal votes!
> Heinz Fischer muss aber mit diesem Tag (8. Juli) abtreten.
Heinz Fischer, the former president of austria has to leave office on 8. July. That would be the time when the next president has to be sworn in.
But
>Gibt es dann keinen neuen Bundespräsidenten, wird er in diesem Amt laut der Verfassung von den drei Nationalratspräsidenten vertreten.
If there is no result to this date Austria will have no president, which means that the 3 presidents of austrian parliament have to fill in...
And one of them is HOFER. :D
>>76531562
so if its proven that the party comitted massive fraud and the other guy won will he be given the office or will it just be swept under the rug
Soo... We still have a chance to make Austria great again???
>>76536623
>>76536724
There may be reelections and Austria will be made great again.
>>76536206
Thanks Austria, and good luck. my reading is totally shit.
>>76529687
>>76531562
>>76536206
YES. Make Austria Great Again.
>>76529687
Another reason Australia is better than America - voter fraud actually goes to court.
>>76536623
If the court confirm the fraud and the remaining votes are 50%+1 for Hofer, he win
>>76529687
I'm 80% sure nothing will come out of this, but the fpö can spin a massive yarn about how the system is corrupt and bla bla bla
>>76534177
Go to the EU? Or at least go to AfD and tell them, if they're not organizing that shit they better be.
>>76536839
Wait, there will be another election? They don't simply cancel the illegal votes?
>>76536948
What?
>>76529687
That's nice.
>>76529687
>Guys, we aren't creative enough to come up with a flag of our own, what do?
>I got it, let's just take Austria's tampon sandwich flag and crank up the saturation in Photoshop
>Brilliant!
lmao
>>76537135
If they can prove any votes were illegal - they are just saying some were, and some were counted in an illegal way (which does not make the votes themselves illegal)
Also i am sure people will disagree here, but just because the wrong people counted or the count started too early does not mean those were all vdb votes.
Pretty sure the fpö would prefer another round of voting to anything else
>>76537135
The goverment is getting caucious and scared and they notice if they would pull this shit, they would just infuriate even more people.
Do it Austria
>>76536948
Ameribro we aren't Kangaroo country.
>Australia
>Austria
>>76537135
It will depend on the decission of the court.
There could be re-elections, but i doubt it.
One thing is sure though, the people are fed up. If it turns out that the postal votes were used for fraud, there will be consequences.
The people here are fed up with this shit.
>Austrian voting fraud officially goes to court.
Thank fuck.
>>76529687
>>76531562
Is the amount of Wahlkartenbetrug enough to actually overturn the election and is it likely? I got mixed signals last time I asked in one of these threads.
>>76537529
We are doing it.
"Sie werden sich wundern was noch alles möglich ist!"
>>76537735
Usually it should but goverment doesn't give a shit and just jew it how they want.
>>76537735
Yes, Hofer lost by only 15k votes.
The faggy cripple who believes in chemtrails lost.
Get over it, losers :^)
>>76538019
If you shitpost too much your wife will cut the internet access to the cuckshed and spent the saved money on her bull Muhammad.
>>76538140
Throw "edgy" in there and you win at buzzword bingo
>>76537846
30k not 15k
>>76538140
I'm gay :^)
>>76537435
>>76537447
Van der Cuck won for 30.000 votes and postal votes were for him. Hofer needs few cancelled votes to win
>>76537846
A relief to hear, I'll have my fingers crossed and give offerings of memes to kek every night until the ruling.
>>76538297
30k more for VdB means it will be 50:50 at 15k more for Hofer (and therefore 15k less for VdB).
>>76529687
I wanted Hofer to win too, but holy fuck accept defeat with dignity
>>76538466
But will that bring back Hofer's leg? :^)
>>76538513
Yes goy, don't question the ways of democracy :^)
>>76538513
>I wanted Hofer to win too
Same here. Those pink ties really swayed me :^)
>>76538334
You assume that all cancelled votes would be for vdb though, which is just wrong. If the areas in questions were rural it is even likely more hofer votes would be invalidated.
I have heard nothing of fradulent counting in cities, were vdb received a majority.
Depending on the areas it might even make the gap larger.
>>76538513
>ignore the evidence goyim
>>76538513
>potentially up to 100k fraudulent votes
>van der cuck only won by 30k
>being upset over this disparity is undignified
i didn't know people in denmark were this cucked but jesus
>>76538513
He did and even didn't want to contest the election at one point. But now that there's a case there's literally no reason not to at least investigate.
>>76529687
>maybe their hands will fall off.
They do them electronically and use a press to seal it, it wouldn't make them more than 3 days tops
And that's only with a crew of 10
I once did a similar thing with a group of 4 other people and popped out 3,500 in 3 days flats
I bet Hofer is...hopping mad :^)
>>76538602
>democracy
>NO YOU SHOULDNT COUNT THE ONES THAT HAVENT BEEN SEALED
Yeah you're the saint of democracy
>>76538649
>Evidence
>Unsealed lettervotes
>>76538680
>100k fraudulent cotes
You're delusional
>>76538704
Sure investigate, no problem in that. But don't taint the election by calling it fraudulent, it wasn't.
If someone is really sour over the loss they wont accept defeat, they keep nitpicking all the small things until they get their way.
Mind me asking my dear Aussie friends, I'm going to Dunaj as an exchange student in july, how is it there and how fast can you get Hoffer up on his chair?
>>76538513
Du er en fucking skændsel for vort land.
>>76538513
>but holy fuck accept defeat with dignity
the core problem doesn't have anything with them being bad losers. you sound like a green-cuck if you say shit like that. are you a leftist who supports corrupted bullshit?
>accepting defeat when fraud screams right into your face
Hofer really needs to...put his foot down here :^)
Time for Hofer to...step on some toes :^)
>>76538938
On the topic of voting fraud - two elections were fraud was investigated and the accusator won in the end:
George W. Bush
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
Make of that what you will.
>>76529687
Good for them. Lord knows nothing like that will happen here. Politicucks will just take it.
Ist Hoffer ein Nationalist? Ya oder nein?
>>76538938
>don't worry about possible fraudulent votes goyim
>>76538938
>mass voter fraud
>a small thing.
>500,000 tainted votes
>not worth mentioning.
>>76539061
Jeb should make an investigation aswell.
Slow and steady.
>>76539140
Pretty much.
>>76539061
>Election fraud is ok as long as it makes my guy win
Then why vote at all?
>>76538968
>Fucking
Ja, det er mig der er skændslen. Snak dog dansk.
>>76538981
I litterally wrote that i wanted Hofer to win
>>76539061
As i said, i have no problem with investigations, i think transparency is key to a healthy democracy. But you should also know when you've been beaten instead of conjuring up conspiracies about how the greens have rigged the election. At least wait for the investigation to finish.
>>76539145
>500k fraudulent votes
You can't pull this off. Maybe in countries like america or turkey, but not in Austria.
>>76539346
I said tainted, as in the way they were handled was improper.
>>76529687
>>76531562
Please put an end to this EU/Antifa cuckery.
We need Hoffer to win.
>>76539266
Not what i was implying at all - i say it's a way to try to falsify democratic proceedings yourself, or a publicity stunt for a doover because you can't deal with failure
>>76539346
>I litterally wrote that i wanted Hofer to win
But you obviously didn't.
>>76536948
Effective b8 is effective
>>76539346
Var dét, det bedste du kunne komme med? Forpulede hanrej.
>>76539346
>You can't pull this off.
Clearly not, it's been discovered. The communists are getting very sloppy lately
>>76539517
Nobody is trying to falsify something "by himself". If you carefully read again you will notice there is a court involved.
>>76537647
>>76539567
See >>76538513
>>76539601
>Hanrej
Sejt meme
>>76535840
The Black Pill?
>>76539805
You're not vey good at English.
You said you wanted him to win, but you are lying to build a rapport. Unfortunately it is obvious.
>>76539745
We also have Kangaroos, in the zoo.
>>76539959
And we have guns, Australians don't :^)
>>76539743
Exactly, they are following up on the claims.
They might be true, then there will be consequences and nobody can complain - fair enough.
What i am saying, 500k sounds like they just pulled "facts" out of their ass - and they have literally nothing to loose making these claims.
As i have said, if the court just drops it they can whine on about the opressive system and get some victim points.
>>76539920
Why the fuck would i go post on pol if i was a leftist green? Why do i even need to make you believe me? You should not judge on my merits but by my arguments.
Or you could just call me a cuck or jidf and feel superior
>>76536948
Kek
>>76532818
Both the Tories and Labour have rigged the postal vote in recent British elections too. No doubt it will be the case for the Brexit referendum too.
>>76538305
We know lol
>>76540104
I am judging you by your arguments, and they are retarded.
>I wanted him to win guys but don't be butthurt about voter fraud, its embarrassing me :''^(
Wow, FPÖ are really sore losers.
>>76540060
You haven't been in the country for too long, Mohammed, I get that.
You can't just challenge an election because you feel like it, there are some formal requirements to be heeded and lots of actual evidence to be presented before the court even accepts it.
>>76529687
>getting election results annulled
Has that ever happened in a Western democracy? I remember German politicians saying a little voter fraud is preferable to having the right in power.
>>76532006
Aldi is horrible. It's Turkcentral. If you wannt to be the only white guy in the shop in Germany, Aldi is a good bet. There's a ebil Nazi racist joke about Aldi: What's Heaven and Hell in Turkish? Aldi open, Aldi closed.
>>76540365
Not only German politicians, just check out the German cuckposts on /pol/.
>>76540325
If you think it is not just a he said she said 150 pages long in lawspeak you are deluded.
>>76538554
Hofer will make Robocop real
>>76540104
>Why would anybody go to a place they hate just to stir up shit
Yes, why would they indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt4uF87wzrA
>>76536206
Solid
>>76537692
You should be fed up, best wishes Austria.
>>76529687
How election tampering should be dealt with.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
Someone in the crowd yelled "Let's go get our guns." The mob headed for the Essankay Garage. The two Cantrell deputies were rescued by Deputy Chief Deputy Boe Dunn and they and the confiscated ballot box were taken to the jail.[9] Two deputies were dispatched to arrest the GIs who Wise recognized amongst the hostile crowd. When they arrived they were beaten, disarmed and detained. So were two more reinforcements. The crowd grew and when three more deputies arrived they too were disarmed, beaten and dragged inside. GI advisor, Republican Election Commissioner and Republican Party Chairman, Otto Kennedy, asked Bill White what he was going to do. White said "I don't know Otto we might just kill them." According to White Kennedy grew alarmed, announced "Oh Lord, oh Lord, oh Lord! No! I'm not having nothing else to do with this. Me and my brother and son-in-law is leaving here."[22] Lones Selber in American Heritage Magazine says Kennedy "left, vowing to have no part in murder."[9] The crowd and most GIs left. The remaining GIs took the seven hostages to a woods ten miles from Athens, stripped them, tied them to a tree and beat them.[9][22]
At the twelfth precinct the GI poll watchers were Bob Hairrell and Leslie Doolie, a one-armed veteran of the North African theater. The polling place was commanded by Mansfield man Minus Wilburn. Wilburn tried to let a young woman vote who had no poll tax receipt and who was not listed in the voter registration. Hairrell grabbed Wilburn's wrist when he tried to deposit the ballot in the box. Wilburn struck Hairrell on the head with a blackjack and kicked him in the face. Wilburn closed the precinct and took the captive GIs and ballot box across the street to the jail.[9] By another account a Bob Harrel objected to an underage girl being allowed to vote. He was brutally beaten and ended up in hospital.[17]
>>76540060
The majority of those 500k are likely affected by formal errors like "votes that got sorted too early". Why that would change anything about the result is beyond me. I doubt they'll find 100.000 Hofer votes having been disregarded during that process.
>>76540012
It was that when I visited Vienna, they let me shoot a variety of rifles, including a Steyr AUG, and did not ask me for ID at all, even though I was a foreigner.
>>76539346
Danebro, a CDU politician literally said "What's worse? Voting fraud, or another seat for the AfD?" Maybe you should try to be understanding, why people are suspicious when it comes to elections. Oh and the EU establishment announced they would block all acces of "far right wing" parties to power. Yeah, no reason to be supicious at all.
>>76540308
If Hofer had won and the greens had wanted an investigation because of some fucking unsealed lettervotes there would've been a thread "TOPKEK assmad greens want an investigation! BTFO!"
But now when it's Hofer: "omfg the greens rigged this election" Absolutely undignified. Hofer has accepted the loss, so should you.
>>76540738
>Pissing in an ocean of piss
>>76540012
Was nice*
>>76540968
At one point deputies started cussing at and taunting the GIs. Bill White, leader of the "fighting bunch," told his lieutenant Edsel Underwood to take 5 or 6 men and break into the National Guard Armory and take some weapons. The GIs took the front door keys from the caretaker. After entering the Armory they broke into the weapon and ammo stores. They then armed themselves with sixty 30.06 Enfield rifles, two Thompson sub-machine guns and all the ammo they could carry. Lone Selber says White went for the guns himself.[9] Bill White then distributed the rifles and a bandolier of ammo each to 60 of the GIs.[23]
As the polls closed, and counting began (sans the three boxes the Cantrell machine deemed critical), the GIs had a comfortable 3 to 1 lead.[9][17] Deputies had seized the critical ballot boxes and took them to the jail.[24] When the GIs heard the deputies were taking the ballot boxes to the jail Bill White exclaimed "Boy, they doing something. I'm glad they done that. Now all we got to do is whip on the jail."[23]
The GIs had broken the law and Cantrell could expect reinforcements in the morning so the GIs had to resolve the situation quickly.[25] The deputies knew little of military tactics and the GIs knew them well. Holed up in the jail Mansfield's deputies had in fact trapped themselves. The GIs could take positions of advantage and any shot from the jail could be met with a barrage from the second floor of the Bank.[25]
>>76540981
They only need 15000.
>>76541045
If there is evidence of possible fraud, you should investigate it. It doesn't fucking matter who is the victim.
>>76538938
(((you)))
>>76541045
>Pissing in an ocean of piss
Nevertheless a well known tactic among you leftwing fucks.
>>76541045
>hypothetical situation with moved goal posts from the current one and therefor a false equivalence.
L-l-look guys it really makes you think, huh?
>>76541045
Why should you accept defeat if its a false one?
Present in the jail at 9:00 PM were Paul Cantrell, Pat Mansfield, George Woods (Speaker of the State House of Representatives and Secretary of the McMinn County Election Commission), and about 50 deputies. They were busy rummaging through the ballot boxes. Wood and Mansfield constituted a majority of the election commission and they could certify and validate the count.[25]
Estimates of the number of veterans besieging the jail vary from several hundred[24] to as high as 2,000.[19] Bill White had at least 60 under his command. White split his group with Buck Landers taking up position at the bank overlooking the jail while White took the rest by the Post Office.[23]
Just as the estimates of people involved vary widely, accounts of how the Battle of Athens began and it's actual course disagree.
Edgerton and Williams inform us that when the men reached the jail, it was barricaded and manned by 55 deputies. The veterans demanded the ballot boxes but were refused. They then opened fire on the jail, initiating a battle that lasted several hours by some accounts,[19][24] considerably less by others.[26] Byrum in his history of McMinn County breezes over the battle proper, describes a shot from the jail followed by a barrage from the bank and goes immediately to 3:30 AM when the deputies surrendered.[25]
I'm all for fixing postal votes.
Time and time again oposition parties were challenging the voting system but once they came into positions of power they just said 'meh fuck it, we good'.
The greens were criticising it but don't seem to care right now- if the FPÖ won they wouldn't care either probably.
Best we can hope for is that postal voting is being fixed as a result of this investigation. I doubt the endresult will change
>>76541044
I definitely see the problem with the establishment refusing to accept nationalists. It angers me, especially when CDU is saying stupid shit like that. But i still think we should abandon our own dignity, and i think we should still act with grace. That is far more effective than "FUCKING GREENS RIGGED THE ELECTION"
>>76541156
I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm saying you shouldn't call it fraud before the investigation has been finished.
>>76541229
You got me! I'm an leftist saboteur from tumblr!
>>76541255
As Lones Selber, author of the 1985 American Heritage magazine article wrote: "Opinion differs on exactly how the challenge was issued." White says he was the one to call it out: "Would you damn bastards bring those damn ballot boxes out here or we are going to set siege against the jail and blow it down!" Moments later the night exploded in automatic weapons fire punctuated by shotgun blasts. "I fired the first shot," White claimed, "then everybody started shooting from our side." A deputy ran for the jail. "I shot him; he wheeled and fell inside of the jail."[9]
In 2000 Bill White claimed he said "Boys, ... I'm going to tell them to bring the ballot box out of there, and if they don't we're gonna open up on them.' I hollered in there, I said, 'You damn thieve grabbers, bring them damn ballot boxes out of there.' 'That's just what I said. He didn't make a move down there and finally one of them said, 'By God I heard a bolt click.' Down there—one of them grabbers did, you know—they started scattering around. And I had a pistol in my belt with a shotgun. I had a shotgun and a rifle. And I pulled the pistol out and started firing down there at them. Well, when I did that, all that whole line up there started firing down there in there. A lot of them got in the jail, some of them didn't, some of them got shot laying outside. And the battle started."[23]
Byrum wrote in 1984 "One shot from the jail, which in previous years would have been enough to disperse any objectionable crowd, was answered by a volley of fire that continued for hours." Then his history of McMinn County breezes over the battle proper and goes immediately to 3:30 AM when the deputies surrendered.[25]
>>76541091
Again - 30000 not 15k
And what if hofer votes were counted early? If there were abnormalities in 90% of the regions obviously hofer votes were affected as well. If the areas were rural hofers will be even more so.
>>76541441
The day after the battle the New York Times front page reported a Sheriff had been killed, and that the shooting had started with a shot through a jail window and with the demand the hostages be released. Then the Times reported the deputies refused and the siege ensued. The account followed, revealing the Times's source as Lowell F. Arterburn, publisher of The Athens Post Athenian. Arterburn reported shots being fired, 2,000 persons milling around and "at least a score of fist fights were in progress."[27]
An attempt by deputies outside the jail to reinforce (or take refuge in) the jail was thwarted by Bill White's "fighting band. Some people in the jail managed to escape out the back door.[23] The fleeing people were throwing down their weapons and running off, so White ordered his forces not to shoot the escapees.[28] One of the escapees was George Woods who had telephoned Birch Biggs, the boss of next door Polk County, requesting that Biggs send some of his muscle to break the siege. Biggs replied "Do you think I'm crazy"? Woods took leave of the jail.[9]
For the veterans it was win before morning or face a long time in jail for violating local, state and federal laws.[25] Rumors spread that the National Guard or State Troopers were coming.[9] White made hourly demands for surrender. The GIs attempted to fire the jail with molotov cocktails but were not able to throw them far enough to reach the jail.[23] The GIs decided to resort to dynamite. At about that time an ambulance pulled up to the jail. The GIs assumed it was called to remove the wounded and held fire. Two men jumped in and it sped off carrying Paul Cantrell and Sheriff Mansfield to safety out of town.[9]
>>76541230
It makes me think!
>>76541548
Then the dynamite was deployed, Bill White said; "We'd put two or three sticks of dynamite together and tape it together and put a cap in there and a fuse. And we'd rear back and throw them. Well, we couldn't get them all the way to the jail, but we got them out to them cars. They'd blow them cars up in the air and turn them over and land them back on the top. Several cars down there were blowing up."[28] That first bomb landed under Bob Dunn's cruiser, flipping it on its back.[9] Bill White, commander of the "fighting bunch" knew the GIs had to do better: "I ... said, 'We're going to have to get some charges up there on that jail.' I said, 'Make a couple charges there.... We'll go down there and we'll place some charges.' So I made up a couple charges and I crawled up and put a charge on the jailhouse porch."[28] In fact three bombs went off almost simultaneously. One destroyed Mansfield's car, one landed on the jail porch roof, and one went off against the jail wall. The bombs caused some damage to the jail and scattered debris.[9] The larger bomb placed by Bill White against the jail wall did the job.
As with the beginning of the battle accounts of the end differ: American Heritage states; "In the end, the door of the jail was dynamited and breached. The barricaded deputies—some with injuries—surrendered, and the ballot boxes were recovered."[9]
The NY Times, in an inside article observed the night was "bloody" and that it ended after the GIs detonated 3 "home-made demolition charges."[29]
>>76541458
>And what if hofer votes were counted early?
Why is it so hard for a leftie to understand that one could want investigations on a shady election no matter if "my guy" benefits from it or not.
>>76540981
If votes are counted too early it means it was without supervision and the chain of custody in the ballots is broken.
Their authenticity becomes suspect. Democracy only works in the open. You can't have antifa counting votes at night without party officials.
>>76541660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw
>>76536206
>They used wrongly colored envelopes (which makes them invalid) for a lot of the votes.
inb4 after the recount hofer has even less votes
>>76541764
Sure, that is what this thread is about. No bias whatsoever, no assumptions.
>>76541798
God bless america ;_;7
>>76541318
No, you're just yet another selfestabilshed "intellectual", who's here to create "debates", by finding nonexistent or irrelevant flaws in arguments, without ever coming up with a solution or counterargument.
But you do realize that you fencesitters will hang along with the rest of the socialist traitors, right?
>>76541318
>"FUCKING GREENS RIGGED THE ELECTION"
Well..., what if they did? And nobody is sperging out in furious rage. At least beyond this board. Maybe.
Good luck, Austria
When you say voting fraud most people stare at you with glazed eyes.
Ballots and ink by law
Ban postal, electronic and internet voting.
How did Europe fuck up so badly?
Didn't the US help with setting up governments after ww2? Didn't the Europeans look at the American system for influence on how to create their governments?
What the fuck happened
>>76542100
Just go be butthurt somewhere else. If you want to live in a fucking Bananenrepublik go to Germany.
>>76542162
>And nobody is sperging out in furious rage
So?
Does that make it right?
>>76540981
81k letter votes without envelope
30k letter votes were reported when they just started counting them
58k votes were counted by people who didn't work for the office
169k votes that are extremely suspicious, and if just half are voided, Hofer leads by 55k votes, nearly twice what the machine 'won' by.
>>76542256
Might be part of the problem Billy Bob. US does not practice real democracy and neither does Europe.
Voting is just a smoke and mirrors show to distract the citizenry from the reality of politics. Which is that business and Jews decide who enters power and what they do with it.
>>76542354
leftie conspiracy is why you are not a winner
>>76542597
Leftie conspiracy is why the west is collapsing.
>>76542106
fucking cuck shit in that image
we aren't all like that
>>76542597
>leftie conspiracy is why we will always lose
>>76534757
Aldi and Lidl are based. Fuck Tesco.
>>76532818
>Postal votes
Why do you guys allow to get cucked like this? You know it's flawed and prone to frauds; why keep using that method? Are you guys really that lazy and retarded that you can't go to the voting place to vote and get played like this? Fucking abolish that shit nigga stop being fucking cucks.
>>76536948
>voter fraud actually goes to court
For some odd reason this is true.
If this isn't a glaring red flag that the system is 100% rigged then I don't know what is.
>the commission of commissars finds that yes indeed there were faulty ballots
>for both sides however
>the right side of history still wins
Better luck next time.
>>76543089
They had the right to challenge the proceedings up to the day before yesterday
The claim gets checked for validity, which is what's happening at the moment, that is the fpös right - so nothing special here.
>>76541971
If that's the case, so be it.
That's not what the whole thing is about though. It's about how easy it is to rig elections with postal votes.
It's about the only way of us (the people) to influence politics. If we can't trust in the voting system, why even bother?
Fuck democracy if this is what it boils down to.
>>76543489
Time for revolution, fampai
>>76543489
No rigging has been confirmed by any court.
The fpö just wants you to question democracy when they don't win, and celebrate it when they do. As long as they are outside of the system, the system is corrupt.
If chancellor strache happens it will still go on a bit though, everybody but him in the system will be corrupt. Really only the fpö is not corrupt, just remember that.
Divide and conquer.
>>76540415
It's a mix of people here in the states. I don't care either way - if the goods are cheap that's good enough reason for me to go there.
>>76532140
Got our first Aldi stores today. Kwinana represent.
t. Coles fag.
>>76536206
Damn, this could be big.
Keep me posted
>>76541044
>Danebro, a CDU politician literally said "What's worse? Voting fraud, or another seat for the AfD?"
Link?
>>76543014
Leftists require them to win, and they're the ones in power
anyone who speaks out goes to reeducation camp
>>76543895
The system is corrupt, that is nothing new.
This is not the first time postal votes had questionable results:
http://www.nationalratswahl.at/wahlbetrug.html
This is just the first time that there is such a big discrepancy through postal votes.
Like i said. If it turns out that Hofer really lost, so be it, but the postal vote system has to change. It's too easy to manipulate.
Apparently if you ordered a postal vote and sent it out, you could still vote at the poll site. Which means there where people that voted twice!
This is inacceptable and i hope this will change after this whole mess is sorted out.
Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest
Also, Lidl is cheaper
>>76546520
>This is just the first time that there is such a big discrepancy through postal votes.
Commies gettin sloppy. How do we make Antifa great again?
>>76535424
Just like everything here.
>>76531562
Were there no exit polls?
>>76547181
Let them read pol, so they can learn how the enemy thinks..... : )
>>76543489
>austrians don't care if the recount is not in their favor as long as it's fair
not even a cuck but i'm in awe. Why can't we have general populace like that?
>>76546520
If you think this is the first time the fpö has made claims like this you must be barely over voting age.
The rigged elections meme has been going on since almost before haider.
Hopefully Austria will not make the same mistake we did in our 2000 elections, where there was ample evidence of voter fraud, but Bush got to be president anyway.
>>76547305
we usually don't have exit polls
>>76547338
>pol
W-well played commie
>>76547473
When did i say that? And i am 27, make of that what you want.
I am not even a regular FPÖ voter. IMO there is nothing more retarded than people that vote for the same party over and over again.
Though i wanted to see what a Hofer can do.
>>76548257
We all wanted to amazed about what would have been possible.
>>76548402
We had some good memes though. ; )
Also Bundeskanzler Hofer.....
>>76548257
>Though i wanted to see what a Hofer can do.
Nothing much, it would have made FPÖ-SPÖ almost guaranteed, with VdB it will be FPÖ-ÖVP 2018
>>76548681
We already got Kern memes.
>>76548864
With Kern i honestly just want him to see under a train, he is one week chancellor and already a perfect match for Van Der Bellen. Wasn't buying his shit at all.
>>76548864
Kern is a faggot, even worse than Faymann
>>76548838
VdB announced he will rule with an iron fist and never approve of FPÖ being part of the government.
>implying there wll be elections in 2018 when VdB transferred all sovereignty to the EU and for profit TTIP courts
>>76549080
Pretty sure he's not, but Kern looks like a fucking Jew. Just like Faymann.
>>76549284
He is open for mass immigration and very similiar to Van der Bellen. So a good goyim.
>>76549080
>>76549184
He's a leftist that claims economical experience from leading a state company supported by subventions. Of course he's an astronomical faggot. The first thing he did was declare that he admires Sweden and Canada, then went on to promote a muslim women as state secretary who promptly compared him to Trudeau because it's 2016.
>>76549240
>VdB announced he will rule with an iron fist and never approve of FPÖ being part of the government.
Well, he said he won't give them the "Regierungsauftrag", which doesn't means shit if FPÖ and another party are willing to cooperate and have a majority in the Nationalrat
>>76548838
Which is way better in my opinion. ÖVP has Kurz, SPÖ has nothing but old farts and Kern.
And Kern is a fuckwit.
But having Cripple-Hitler as BK would be a good antipole for our Half of the Population President.
>>76548864
KERNschmelze
or
KERNspaltung?
>>76547981
That was not a joke. ;)
>>76549629
>KERNschmelze
>or
>KERNspaltung?
or "das Kernproblem der großen Koalition"
>>76549547
This is how much he was willing to admit during the elections. Hofer had to say far less to be labeled as "literally Hitler".
Maybe we don't have a parliament by 2018 but his beloved "Vereinigte Staaten von Europa".
>>76549535
I think he still hasn't named a single valuable thing when it comes to that lady why she should be in that position. They literally just announced her with "she is muslim, she is a woman" and called it a day.
And i find it laughable that many leftists kinda love this faggot but constantly complain about the ÖBB. These people are helpless.
>>76542256
>How did Europe fuck up so badly?
>Didn't the US help with setting up governments after ww2?
you anwsered yourself
>>76535371
>it looks like a relic of the 1990s
you mean back before we'd been invaded by 8 million shitskins who wanted us dead or enslaved?
what a toime ot be a live
>>76534177
MATE go to the AFD and tell them your story and that you have witnesses and voters who didnt get counted. This will be a huge boost for them!
>>76549629
>SPÖ has nothing but old farts and Kern.
Doskozil is doing a good job desu.
>>76534177
what town and what election
>>76532006
i live literally right next door to one, theres never anyone shopping there so you dont have to wait in line for 15minues like you have to in the store literally next to it, and you can just casually stand there hitting on the chich at the counter
8/10 would kraut
>>76550334
he'll get chopped off sooner or later if Niessl can't hold against the left wing that put Kern in place. And I highly doubt anyone can win against viennese SPÖ in the long run.
>>76549762
Das ist also des Pudels Kern.
Okay, geb zu der war schlecht, aber die Möglichkeiten sind bei unseren derzeitigen Politikern einfach zu groß.
Kurz
Kern
Bellen
Hofer
What to jeeews?
>>76529687
Based Norbert "mit dem Baseballschläger auf den Neger" Hofer will make Austria great again. The leftist tears will be delicious.
>>76551015
>Norbert "mit dem Baseballschläger auf den Neger" Hofer
top kek
>>76550896
Doskozil ist für den Kern der SPÖ einfach zu kurzsichtig.
Das Potential geht ins Unendliche.
>>76540981
>it was just some errors affecting tens of thousands of votes lol, how could that change anything
>>76540104
>how do you do fellow /pol/acks
>>76550628
The Vienna-SPÖ will go into the shitter after Häupl resigns.
>>76551236
Welch Poesie!
Man sollte Listen führen, ansonsten wäre es eine Verschwendung guter schlechter Wortspiele.
>>76539346
People like you are what kill Democracy. And protip: Bankers and Greens don't run dicatorships.
>>76534177
Jesus...
Shit like this makes me think that the Brexit vote will be rigged in favour of remaining in the EU
>>76542106
God bless free Englishmen and their children
>>76552091
Wait...you actually thought the brexit vote wasn't going to be rigged?
>>76549938
Is he a real gayman? He looks like one
>>76534177
>posts neither name of town nor what election it was
>wants us to believe him
yeah no
>>76551616
Which will mostly not happen as long as the SPÖ funds his alcohol addiction.
>>76542256
European governments after WW2 were set up specifically to prevent the far right from coming back into power, and they also had to deal with the threat of Soviet-backed insurgency
Hence rigged elections, no free speech, no guns, CIA-backed anti-Soviet democratic socialist ('anti-fascist') parties in charge, stuff like Operation Gladio making sure actual communists never got into power
Also the plan was to have the US provide defense through NATO because they wanted to keep the former fascist nations permanently disarmed
Europe imagines itself free but it's been the puppet of America since 1945
>>76532666
it literally is the aldi logo
>>76552595
You would drink too if you were him.
>>76549629
Kurz is so fucking based. I bet he's hiding his true red pill level.
>>76535380
My aldi is pretty nice. They have good beer and wine. Their meat is cheap too, and their ready to bake pizzas are awesome.
>>76552622
Very true. Especially for Germany.
>>76552595
There are rumors that Sonja Wehsely will replace him 2017.
>>76552911
Why is he in the cuck party then, and only started talking about closing the borders recently?
>>76552878
kek
>>76552990
Source?
>>76552911
Kurz is talking much but not doing anything desu.
>>76552911
I like him. He is based and has a very pleasant voice too.
Über den politischen Nachwuchs in Österreich kann man sich eigentlich nicht beschweren, wenn die ganzen alten Säcke den endlich krepieren kann auch wieder mal was weitergehen.
In Deutschland siehts da eher düster aus.
>>76552091
>doesn't know it's already pre-rigged more than an autismball match
>>76553257
http://kurier.at/politik/inland/sonja-wehsely-will-in-wien-machtfaktor-bleiben/199.121.469
>Dem Vernehmen nach will sich Wehsely jetzt in Position als Bürgermeister-Nachfolgerin bringen. Dass Häupl vor der nächsten Gemeinderatswahl das Zepter abgeben wird, ist klar.
Don't know where I got 2017 from, but Häupl will resign before 2020.
Weren't people here saying the Antifa faggots got bussed in to do the counting and bragged about ignoring Hof's votes?
>>76553241
You have to start somewhere.
Also never reveal your full power level until the time is right.
>>76553616
That was a troll post.
I hope the FPÖ hasn't fallen into the same trap.
That would be counter-productive.
>>76553616
That was a satirical post by a satire Twitter account made purely to annoy people like you.
>>76553616
That was fake.
>>76552911
>fucking based
Kurz 2015: The average immigrant (context refugee) is better educated than today's average austrian.
Kurz 2016: Shit ÖVP is falling apart - I have to become more like Strache if I don't want to become leader of a party nearly noone votes for.
DEPORT THE REFUGEES
>>76552990
This is very likely since she was denied a position in Kerns government. She and her family had a major role in bringing down Faymann internally. The only voters they'll attract are the green ones though and the SPÖ will go down the leftist road even further.
>>76529687
Seems like liberals have started crying about possible reelections on goybook.
>hurr Strache is just trying to distract us from the embarassing video Sippel made
>lolol i think he's trying to distract us from the photo of him pissing
Leftists are a real class act
Godspeed Austria. Utterly crush them.
>>76554403
Good luck for the 23rd Brit. Crash the EU!
>>76554045
He was not good at being minister of integration.
He is good as foreign minister though.
Also if you want to rise into a position of power you don't swim against the stream. Imagine what would happen to his carrer if he was like "DEPORT ALL MUDSLIMES" from the start.
He would have never get the position of foreign minister.
