Do we stand a chance, or are we just fooling ourselves?
inb4 "he hasn't started on her"
it will be november and they'll be saying that
>>76525355
Next week, buddy.
>>76525355
You would do well not to underestimate the power of meme magic young Pablo
Trump will lose even as it stands, and on top of that, he's going to disintegrate as the Republicans abandon him, AND Bernie's followers are going to switch to Hilary soon. The Democrats' effective lead is actually way huger than it looks.
The Republicans are banking on retooling in 4 years, so they're literally surrendering. They're giving the election to the Democrats so that they can come back in 4 years with some magic trick that gets them the Hispanic vote, because they're out of touch morons.
Not only can Trump NEVER win, the country is now permanently fucked. Next election, there will be even fewer white voters, even more hispanics and blacks, the Dems are pushing to let a fuckload of illegals vote on top of that, AND the Republicans will back some corny old lame white guy again. Come 8 years, it's all over.
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The only hope left for America now is a complete and utter collapse of the system.
>>76525532
>This Mexican Judge thing will end Trump
>I swear!
>>76525251
I'm legitimately worried. Someone please give me a legitimate reason why trump will win. I need this.
>>76525748
the debates will be reason enough
trump has more bravado and more capacity to engage the audience, which will swing the undecided
>>76525748
There aren't any. People learned their lesson with Bush not to vote for fuckheads.
>>76525355
>emails
>rapist husband
>Benghazi
That's all he has to work with. Doesn't quite have the same impact as "racist" or "hitler", does it?
He's blew his stack already and now he's moved on to fucking himself over by making blatantly racist statements. Drumpf is a clown.
>>76525844
Good point. Pre-debate polling is so useless
>>76525532
>Bernie's followers are going to switch to Hilary soon.
How high are you? They will do anything to not let that thing become president.
>>76525844
When will those be? What about Sanders since he's not dropping out will he be in the debates? Why am I asking a brit this?
>>76525996
Drumpf is a fucking idiot. I always find funny when they try to interpret his massive fuck ups as some sort of master plan
>>76525251
It's state by state, so general polls really mean nothing anyway.
It'll probably come down to how well Trump's message on jobs/economy and how many retards on the left realize she's a 1%er strictly out for herself. If that moves the needle in the toss-ups, Trump can it keep in play.
However, his inability to shut his mouth and stay on point, along with the leftist media and their agenda is going to make it very difficult.
Just wait til the entire political establishment turns from demonizing Bernie as some sort of evil communist and instead works it's magic on Drumpf.
No rethuglicans, a few RINO's insulting Drumpf on Faux News is not the same as witnessing the power of the fully operational political machine.
>>76525844
Trump is a man.
Hillary is a woman(?).
Nuff said.
Don't let America get cucked.
Work the meme magick hard.
>>76526072
I'm sorry, whose empire owns you, again?
>>76525844
Most people already know which way they're voting, debates only sway confidence so if your candidate looks bad during it you might just not go out to vote
>>76525251
From an outside perspective that's pretty fucking good. You've got Hillary, the embodiment of career politician vs Trump, a man who the media constantly portrays as a racist borderline Nazi and they're polling almost even.
It's still a long time until the election and anything could happen in that time which could completely change the game.
We'll just have to see what Hillary and Trump do with the remaining time, how they run their campaigns, 6 months ago few would have thought that Trump would have done so well or that Bernie would have gotten as far as he did. It's all so unpredictable, not to mention that there haven't been any debates between the two yet.
It'll be a coin flip. The electoral college might make it look like a landslide, but the popular vote will be close. Neither of them will break 50% of the vote.
>>76526024
First debate isn't until August 6
Get comfy
>>76525532
They'll put everything behind Rubio and if he makes it out of the primary he'll win 2020 in a landslide.
It was pretty clear trump won't win last year when he announced all Mexicans were rapists and drug dealers
You can't win the white house whe n 40% of the population is minority.
Not all white people support trump
"B-but trump will win Latinos and Black's..."
Nah they won't. This is the stupid mentality Bernie thought. If minorities wouldn't support the guy who offered free shit, what makes you think they'll support a guy who is plastered as a racist 24/7?
>>76525996
>>76526072
>Drumpf
I like how liberals keep trying to make this forced meme a thing
>>76525251
>ITT: Hillary's paid shills discovered concern trolling
unless you guys are doing it
>for free
>>76526450
If you're right (and you might be), then what's the point of even having a United States anymore?
We're probably already decades past the point of no return, just Balkanize already
>>76525251
This is the greatest chance any anti globalist movement has had in the past 50 years. Never forget that. The fact that he is tied with his opponent currently is phenomenal and should fill us all with a tremendous hope
>>76526450
Your first mistake was thinking that everyone actually votes
Everyone bitches, less than half actually vote on it
>>76525355
The conventions haven't even started friendo. Last two week of July will be the beginning of the end for one of these candidates.
Honestly, if Trump isn't close to or is beating Hillary by August-September then I doubt he can win in November.
>>76525251
As you can see on your own chart, OP, Hillary's lead used to be much larger.So yes, there's still hope but Trump needs to get his shit together.I don't know the chances of it happening though.
>>76525355
Yes trump has been stumped
>>76526690
He's already pretty close (+2).
>>76526450
>he announced all Mexicans were rapists and drug dealers
ahahaha shills are so fucking dumb
like nigga how do you manage to breathe hahahah
>>76526450
Yes, I'm sure all of those low agency minorities in the "Coalition of the Useless" will turn out in droves to vote for a white woman
>>76526083
>>76526116
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>76526450
Negros wont come out in packs like they did for obama
>>76525355
He said that he's starting on her next Monday.How effective he's gonna be at it remains to be seen.
>>76525251
You fell for the Trump meme? It's just for the lulz /b/ro. You really shouldn't let your feels get you too involved. He's never getting elected.
>>76525532
A FUCKING LEAF
>Faggots actually think Hillary Clinton can be defeated by Trump
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAH! Oh man, I'm gonna enjoy the /pol/tears this November.
>>76526864
They came out for Hillary in droves for the primaries, more than Obama. If there anything Black's vote for more than a black president is against a guy who is plastered as a racist.
>>76526816
It doesn't matter what his exact words were, that's how Latinos and everyone really interpreted it.
>>76526823
Just like they wouldn't support her in California or other States?
People vote for people they love or against people they hate.
>>76525251
Sanders continuing his campaign will make his supporter angrier and angrier everyday against Killary.
I don't think a 2% gap is relevant until the Dem convention. After that, we'll have to worry.
>>76526941
PRAISE LORD KEK
>>76526072
>Drumpf
So this is "a funny joke and a valid insult" because...?
That's it! I #shillforhill now!
>>76525251
here in brazil 2012 ellections, there was some live debates where Aecio rekt dilma in all the possible ways, he destroyed her and the auditory was screaming, sometimes clapping and hooting, even being asked to be impartial each time they did it
one of the things he did is talking about her brother that ''works'' in a public job for over 10 years, but never appeared to work not even once, but still gets the salary, and when he called her ''flighty'', she had 0 arguments about everything, she was just saying random things until her time run out. yet in the end, dilma won.
just look at her reactions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnp8jVkaNig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-sZz4TzihU
>>76525532
You know the saddest part? This was the plan 4 years ago.
>>76525996
This has to be satire. I literally can't think anyone is dumb enough to thing that some label is worse than actual killing and rapes.
>>76525355
the general election literally hasnt started. it doesnt start until after each party officially nominates a candidate. most people consider the unofficial start date, the first debate, since thats when they actually open up on each other
>>76527187
>They came out for Hillary in droves for the primaries
Nigger, are you literally retarded or just really bad at your shilling job?
/r/ing the picture of saying "i dont give a damn about the emails"
and hillary and biden laughing "HE DID IT FOR FREE!"
I need to troll some Hernie Panders supporters asap!
>>76526137
>demonizing Bernie
This never happened
>>76526137
>Implying they didn't already blow their loads on trump months ago
>Implying anyone even took the time to attack the berning man
2 shill points have been added to your shill account.
>2 points
>>76527441
Are you retarded? Because I literally said Black's came out to support her and you post a random ass image like haha you're dumb as hell
>Serbian education
Those polls are cooked in hillarys favor so trump is actually ahead now
2008 McCain- Unpopular with GOP base & warmonger. Even conservatives were sick of forever wars so most sat out the election.
2012 RoMoney - Magic underwear cult (see above)
2016 The Don - The base is fully erect.
Disaffected GOP voters have finally found a champion.
>>76527629
Back to negro Twitter with that diction
>>76527359
And then she got impeached. I'd be okay with that.
Legitimately cool story tho
>>76525251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C8SX0mWP0
We all need a Sam right now
>>76527629
>Black's
>complains about the education of others
You must be the niggerest of all retarded niggers. Holy shit, you're one stupid motherfucking faggot. Gas yourself.
>>76527685
Amazing
Do you think blacks would still vote for her if they saw this? Or her super predator comments? Or pandering by saying she carries hot sauce? Of course they would, they're fucking parasites..
>>76527736
McCain ran on being a vet dove though. Granted his idea of diplomacy has proven to the the same cuckservative interventionist policies but to call him a warmonger is a rather drastic misunderstanding of the 2008 race.
>>76527830
Lolz you actually think you're opinion matters?
Third world shithole with no ocean lol wtf makes you think you matter?
>SERBIAN EDUCATION everyone
I want to murder shills.
>>76527975
xDDDDDDD
>>76525251
Relax. Hillary's natural tendency is to drop in support as a campaig continues. Trump's tendency is to pick up supports with occasional plateaus and some brief dips.
This judge thing is a classic example of Trump "scandals". He says something that seems outrageous at first but then when all the facts come in he's on the money. The judge is a member of a Mexican nationalist organization within the US. He probably is biased against someone who dares to promote enforcing our border laws. The only problem I see for Trump is that republicans like Ryan are dumbfucks who don't know how ride out the storm of the initial "He says Mexicans can't be judges" phase of liberal retardation.
>>76527975
You know we're going to ship niggers back to Africa, right? Keep it up
>>76528001
>I want to murder shills.
>Post a gif of a Man killing HIMSELF
>>76528192
We've tried that three times, only hope is to keep abortion legal so they'll self extinct themselves.
>>76527894
source of that webm?
>>76527960
A dove because he was against torture? Fuck off!
He never voted against any military action ever including going to war with Syria.
>>76528366
Any nigger on welfare gets a one way ticket to Africa
>>76527811
not before ruining the country on all possible ways
dollar price here when dilma was first elected in 2011:
R$ 1.65
dollar price this year at 16 feburary:
4.07
dollar now with Michel Temer as president and dilma on the impeachment process:
3.38
also many people lost their jobs
and here a article showing how fucking retard she is
http://theinteramerican.org/dilmish-101/
>>76527685
This can't be real..... Source?
>>76525251
Your only hope is an indictment.
>>76526072
>Calling Trump a racist
>Making fun of his family's ethnic German name
Pick one
>>76525251
It just isn't demographically and ideologically possible for Trump to win. The communists have won. Trump supporters are the last gasp of the old America.
The future of America is to be a socialistic, brown shithole.
>>76527685
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-blackface-photo/
Doesn't exactly prove it's not them.... But it probably isn't
>>76525251
Just make sure there's not any corruption and the vote will be right according to whoever voted. That's democracy. As a Christian I do not want to vote for either nomination and I will not.
Both are clearly corrupt individuals however and I'd argue for their removal from the nomination. Barack Hussein Obama II should be incarcerated by the way for corruption and a psychopathic history of violence. He is a dumb, homosexual, and stupid black man.
>>76528001
>>76529407
If you want to make it about race you've already lost "your" country. There are plenty of "shitskin" conservatives on your side if you so choose.
>>76525251
It's over. Hillary is going to get a huge bounce from winning the nomination. She'll make Trump look like a child in the debates. Expect an absolute blowout landslide. Dems will also take back the Senate.
Polls say that 8% of Sanders voters will move to Trump, 88% will vote for Hillary, and 4% will not vote.
>trump
sorry guys.
>>76530000
You mean she'll be indicted once Trump starts shoveling in her shit.
Good get though.
>>76529769
If we don't make this about race, then America will turn into a shithole regardless. Demographics matter.
>>76525996
Nobody over the age of 30 gives a shit about le racism. Also calling him Hitler is better publicity than you might think, especially in the midwest. Lots of folks here have the redpill in their mouths, and are ready to swallow if the left keeps going full-retard.
>>76530114
Why do cucks think hilldog will have a nonination bounce? They are head to head polls not "oh and you get to pick bernie as well lol"
>>76530530
The democracy can be used such that most Christian, scientific, and educated voters such as myself would be happy during and after the election. The problem is not anyone is incarcerating infamous politicians such as Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Bernie Sanders. There are other individuals but I'd at least start at the top.
>>76530574
>>76530424
>Midwest
>nothing but Scandinavians and Germans
That's cuck country. Those ethnicities are genetically cucks. It's no surprise that the worst nigger ghettos and Muslim enclaves are in these states. Only reason they vote republican is because of Muh jesus
>>76530574
>>76530623
>>76530114
Also that appears to be bullshit
>>76530891
>>76525251
notice how they are both under 45%
comrade bernie quitting will give about an additional 10% to hillary
only morons argue with this fact
no chance, but keep the material coming, it'll make /pol/'s collective butthurt and tears all the more hilarious in november.
>>76530975
That other 10%is for other parties you mouth breathing retard
>>76529256
you're on /pol/ kiddo, no ones gives a fuck about being racist.
how new are you
>>76531075
there are no other parties in melting pots
look up some historic polls, retard
Even now, today, when Democrats are supposed to all be rallying behind Clinton, the top posts on the Clinton Reddit group get around a tenth the upvotes as those on the Sanders Reddit.
Hillary inspires passion in nearly nobody, only having squeaked by against Sanders due to a combination of blacks (more automatic than a particular accomplishment for a Democrat), a moderate percentage of habitual voters (especially old people with no internet), and voter suppression.
Trump is only nominally a bit behind in polls, probably already not at all in passion-driven actual potential turnout. The true strength of his support was largely hidden throughout the primaries by lack of a ground game and underspending, but most of the general Republican alliance will aid him in the general. To many Republicans, the Clintons are like the whale in Moby Dick; they've been waiting to finally take them down for a long time.
If the FBI doesn't get her, the Russians don't want a trigger-happy hawk stuck in a Cold War mentality in the White House, so they will likely release their cache of hacked emails sometime between now and November if necessary. (She doesn't have to end up in prison, though she might; swaying a percentage of swing voters is enough to swing the election). The "Clinton Cash" money laundering and influence scheme is pretty bad if people hear about the details (among various other scandals), and Trump will make sure people do.
He isn't perfect, but he is a specialist in character assassination, among other skills.
16 opponents down. 1 to go.
Besides, now is Ramadan, which means 'tis the season for terrorist attacks. Easily there is a 50% chance of some major one in the next few weeks. Gradually, the popularity of mass importation of millions of Muslims has been diminishing over time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ecAf5sPENw
>>76531285
Look cuck you don't know what you are talking about johnson was non existant basically in 2012 he and stein are in every poll now
>look at historic polls
Reform, Nader
>>76531307
>people hate Muslim immigration
NOPE
After every terrorist attack, people have been begging for MORE immigration and defending Muslims.
>>76530712
Aww yeah Florida doing me proud. Aside from college towns where all those fucking nu-males live it's a pretty red state.
>>76531623
is this your first election retard?
major party candidates will come withing 1-2% as they always do
because people don't want to waste their fucking votes
>>76531869
You're not even American, get off my fucking website
>>76531869
Show me another year every polling agency reports 10+% going to third parties, cuck fag. Like I said you have no idea what you are talking about
>>76532007
>Telling non americans to get out on a czech shroom hunting forums
>>76532007
Not only is he not american he is a retard that thinks every" other" answer in this head to head is bernie sanders. He is a fucking moron.
>>76525251
There is a chance.
So far US is the last chance for this world to progress, if we don't learn how to limit our morality, by a hundred years in the future or less humanity will stop pregresing, and the world will be dominated by niggers and mudslimes like Obongo, slowly fucking everything up.
There is a chance.
Redpill to the extreme, make sure everybody knows the truth, make sure everybody knows all the people that Hillary killed, her opinion about faggots a couple of years ago, how she is just going to fuck up the country beyond salvation, how her only goood thing for her is "being the first woman in power".
Redpill everyone so they all know who Trump really is, not a racist, but a realist, I live in this country and I know how fucked up the things are here. And mudslimes themselves most know how fucked up they are.
Redpill everyone my comrade.
Also nice ID, faggot.
>>76526816
as if we needed any more proof that /pol/ is made up of 15 year olds
protip: it doesnt matter what his actual words were, it's about how they are interpreted
enjoy babby's 1st election, assuming you will be old enough to vote in november
This video raises many good points, watch the last half if you're only interested in why Hillary will do poorly
https://youtu.be/LibRNYJmZ-I
>>76532496
No it really fucking isn't>>76532615
It's no ones fault but your own that you don't know how to properly interpret data
>>76527187
im hispanic anyone who is literally not retarded know full well what he meant i fucking hate the people i get tossed in with
>>76530294
No nationalism matters. Some white nationalist bullshit is not going to work in the US.
>>76532545
being a total cuck didnt work well for bernie, i doubt it will work well for hillary
You're not wrong, as far as vocal segments of the population over-represented in the political class and media.
But I'm referring to change over time. For instance, in YouGov polling, support for a Muslim immigration ban was 4% higher than opposition to it, among all Americans, back in December 2015. Yet, in March 2015, that 4% lead had increased to a 11% lead: 51% support, only 40% opposing.
https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/28/divide-muslim-neighborhood-patrols/
If Trump gets to the point of full details, the Muslim ban would presumably be revised somewhat to be enforceable, more likely about drastically dropping the intake of immigrants from various countries of concern (like actually even President Carter did against Iranians but more broadly). It'd be somewhat watered down but, in the process, end up with still a lower percentage of voters opposing.
>>76525532
>more black voters
That's how Kanye West wins 2020
>>76526371
Clinton was most scared of Rubio winning this primary, so I wouldn't doubt it
Trump has no chance sadly.
Here in France Le Pen suffer from the same issue, when the media is biased it's just not possible.
People who never vote will get up to vote just because they heard on TV that an evil racist may become president.
>>76526535
>>76527306
>>76529256
>>76525251
No, your hope doesn't remain. Trump will beat your favorite candidate Hillary. Deal with it.
>>76525251
Fuck off concern shill.
>>76530648
Germans committed ethnic genocide. Minority enclaves are a direct result of the government to turn the state to the left.
>>76525251
Were all just patiently waiting for the first debate.
>>76525982
uh what did Bush do that was so stupid? Obama largely continued Bush's foreign policy you fucking dolt, and everything he did domestically has been trash
>>76534119
Iraq
>>76530994
Romney lost to an incumbent. No comparison.
>>76525251
did you ever actually care? I know I didn't. It's been a blast following Trump win or lose, who cares.
>>76525251
Right now, it's healthier to think that he's going to lose, but who knows what could happen.
Never be like the bernouts.
>>76527459
We obviously don't live in worlds with the same news media, Shillary had most the mainstream media support and Bernie was sexist for running against her.
>>76534639
This election is probably the most important one in 80 years. This could literally change how the Supreme Court interprets law because of the vacancy.
What's funny is that the Supreme Court never turns back from the progress the progressives push.
>>76525251
At this rate, and short of an FBI indictment, no, Trump doesn't stand a chance. As much as I want him to win, he just keeps fucking up because of his inability to maintain his temperament and keeping himself from saying things that the media picks him apart for. I think him being a billionaire CEO for so long has gotten to his head; he thinks he can say and do anything without any consequences.
He should just start using teleprompters and speech writers like everyone else does.
>>76532239
>A czech shroom hunting forum run by a jap populated by Australian shit posters
>>76535537
That's the thing, his "fuck ups" make him stronger. He's the definition of anti-fragility, his numbers just get higher with every shitstorm, a single one of which would take out any other candidate.
>>76535059
>never turns back
which means this election is not very important at all.
We stand a chance. I suspect Hillarys polls will briefly increase now that she locked down the nomination. We will pass her in the long run though.
>>76529612
I knew a guy that tried the method on the rt. Complete fucking retard too
>gf says look, doug, your nice n all, but you have no ambition and frankly a bit too weird
>goes inside his parents house, up to his bedroom, pulls out a .38 revolver and BLAM!
Bullet shattered his pallette and flew out his right eye socket. He lived too.
The gf was right... total burnout loser that was 25 or so and living with his parents. He now works at the deli in the local grocery store, in the back where ppl don't see him as much... still lives at home
