If:
1. roughly half of illegal immigrants are here on overstayed visas
2. most of the remaining are smuggled through ports of entry by coyotajes
3. easy areas of entry and populated areas are already fenced off
4. the remaining remote areas that are open are made up of natural barriers more difficult to cross than a wall while also being heavily watched by Border Patrol
then what logical reason is there for building a wall? Is it a symbolic thing? Does he campaign on it just because it gets the people riled up? I mean, no matter what your stance is on immigration, just looking at the situation it seems pretty obvious that a wall isn't going to have much of an effect on anything.
yeah what a great """"""""""""""wall"""""""""""
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>>76492900
Ther s no logical reason for it. President Trump will claim he was speaking metaphorically and what he actually meant was increasing the border security budget, increasing Visa controls and making it harder to wire money to Mexico.
2 is partially correct. The rest is incorrect
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>>76493299
You border looks better than ours, at least you have something
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>>76492900
Why use clothes?
Why have laws?
Why----?
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>>76493351
Clothes don't cost billions of dollars
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>>76493056
Mexican here. I was going to jump the border but then I saw all those american flags
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>>76493602
You know what would be more efficient, cheaper, and more effective than a wall? Take all our troops positioned around the globe and spread them out on the southern border with armed automatic rifles and see which illegals have the balls to try and cross into the US illegally.
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>>76493652
That wall is going to be beautiful
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>>76492900
1) The wall is primarily to stop the illegal drug trade that is constantly happening across our border.
b) Trump has also said he wants to revamp the visa system to enact harsher, quicker punishments for those who overstay with a bare minimum of immediate deportation
III)your last two points are complete bullshit because those are the exact areas where drug mules thrive because there are no people around to be witnesses and the harsher terrain is easier to hide in
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>>76493533
They actually mark the holes with an American flag
I thought that the wall was harder to jump
now I am considering....
JUMPING THE WALL
>>76493917
Interesting photos in this thread. I'm just curious though, I suppose if I moved to Arizona or some other border area, I wouldn't legally be able to just go and shoot Mexican crossers, right? Like, say I went up to illegal alien woman who I had just witnessed crossing one those pissant little guardrail fences, I couldn't just shoot her pointblank in the face with a twelve gauge, right? I mean legally, that is. Seems like that might be a pleasant way to pass the time, or make a fulfilling weekend hobby.
>>76493985
You could probably get in trouble for shooting them but there's no laws against having your rabid dog attack them and strike their jugular. Just food for thought.
>>76493952
sometimes there is no fence
It's just a sign that says "caution"
Apparently free money is something to warn you about.
>>76493650
I feel like there's this image in peoples minds of illegals dashing across a border in the desert, when in reality the overwhelming majority come in trucks, vans, trains, ships, and planes. Neither a wall nor automatic rifles are going to touch that.
>Americans unironically believe trump will make a giant physical stone wall and if you sneak passed it you are rewarded with citizenship
>>76492900
Here's your logic:
>It's already happening
>it's difficult
...
>so don't try to do anything.
If one wetback is stopped the wall is a success. Fuck illegal beaners. Deport the rest.
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>>76494101
I'm pretty sure bullets can penetrate a glass windshield on any pedestrian vehicle sir. And we have X-ray technology that can be used from satellites to see heat signatures in trucks. We have the resources and technology but the leadership fails to use it to our advantage.
>>76494196
illegal immigration is to the elites' advantage
they want lower wages, higher housing costs, and more democrat voters and welfare leeches.
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>>76494102
>stone
Haha no, retard. Layers of fences with intricate, reinforced barbed wire and electrically charged sections.
Check out Israel's walls for an idea.
>>76494070
More like food for dog
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>>76494341
There is no such thing as an Israeli wall, goy
that's just a myth created by internet nazi trolls
>>76494271
Your stating this like I didn't already know that? I literally just said "but the leadership fails to use what we have to the public's advantage"
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>>76494102
>if you sneak passed it you are rewarded with citizenship
False. The people who are deported will be given the option to re-enter the wall legally. By following immigration procedures and paying for the wall
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/18/donald-trump-immigration-border/
Militarizing the border has made the problem worse:
Crossing into the US has increased, while militarizing the border has increased the cost of that crossing, so the 85% that used to cross back now bring their families with them and to avoid ICE move all over the country instead of just staying in CA like they used to, and have anchor babies.
>>76494420
I'm just making conversation
>>76494448
and they leave trash fucking everywhere
>>76494404
Wow they really dropped the ball in may
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>>76492900
Because jobs you moran!
How is Trump supposed to make America great again without a make-work jobs program?!?
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>>76494543
They wouldn't even be there to leave trash if aggressive enforcement in traditional crossing areas hadn't been implemented.
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>>76494543
Ignite the hotplates
Burrito war now
>>76494607
Not sure if trolling.
>moran
Oh nice 7/10 made me reply
>>76494607
Yes White Americans are stupid compared to all those Mexican intellectuals™
These photos are unreal.
My wife and I lived the last few years in Mexico.
She just got into the US legally after a two year immigration process and around $5000..
She literally could have walked into the US in Texas but we did it the right way...
Fuck those illegals.
personally I think we should just Hiroshima Mexico City and build premium condos on the ashes. Everybody wins really.
>>76494655
It's the future the boomers chose
>>76494695
Oh (you!)
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>>76492900
I honestly think it is a negotiating tactic. If you want tighten border security, you demand a wall. You negotiate and settle for tighter border security. Art of the Deal.
>>76494817
wow
OP BTFO
>>76494908
What are you trying to prove with these pictures? That there's shitty fencing and trash along the border? How does that address any of the concerns in the OP?
>>76493076
So they can't get them here in busloads. Looks like they have to walk.
That's a start, I guess.
>>76494717
There are many brilliant white people in the U.S. but if you think that bulge is due solely to white people you are very mistaken. Scholars from all over the world (mostly a shit ton of intelligent Asians) come to U.S. to conduct research. Half of my TA's were Chinese immigrants and the lab that i'm working in is mostly Korean people and the PI is from Argentina.
>>76494994
It's almost as if East Asians have high IQs while Mestizos don't
nahhhh
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>>76492900
BUILD THE GODDAMN WALL
STOP MAKING EXCUSES
>>76495078
... Yes. I agree.
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>>76495078
Every IQ map I see shows that the Balkans have a lower IQ than the rest of Europe. Why is this?
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>>76495218
This map is probably shit, though. I find it very hard to believe that Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan have a 105 average IQ.
>>76494850
shes so craaazy
>>76495217
Why would you want a bunch of low IQ violent Mestizos in your country then?
>>76495218
haven't gone through the Flynn effect yet
Even Blacks in the US have higher IQs than native Africans because they have access to education but they still have a standard deviation below whites.
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>>76495404
>haven't gone through the Flynn effect yet
Why should any of the Balkan slavs be dumber than Eastern slavs, especially since they had very comparable histories. Also, that doesn't explain Greece, which has a higher level of development than almost all of the Eastern Bloc states.
>>76492900
The wall just got 10 feet higher!
>>76495595
holy shit nightmares for days
>>76492900
Your logic
>burglars will break the window to get in my house
>might as well just leave the front door open
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>>76495460
Mexico seems like such a friendly place, I just don't see why Americans don't want to have more Mexicans here.
>>76495404
When the fuck did I say I supported illegal mexican immigration?
>>76495725
more like
>I already have a security system, dog, guns, and high fences in the backyard, yet even though most of the people who steal my stuff are people I or my friends let in, I think adding another fucking wall is going to solve my problems.
>>76492900
If the wall isn't gonna work, why are all the Mexicans buttmad about it?
>>76495946
Because it's basically just a big middle finger and nothing else.
>>76495596
You have to break it down more than that
Greece is about comparable to the Ukraine in IQ while the west slavs have higher IQs
the lowest are the countries held back by Islam.
>>76495853
i know right?
damn racists
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>>76495942
>millions of la raza invaders and criminals hopping a 3 foot wire fence and there's nothing we can do about it
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>>76493985
Yup you can do that. Go try it
>>76496001
>the lowest are the countries held back by Islam.
Nonsense, it's merely a coincidence.
>Greece is about comparable to the Ukraine in IQ
Greece is far more developed than all of the dark orange countries and many of the light orange countries such as the Western Slav states, Belarus, the Baltics, and Russia, yet it has a significantly lower IQ than all of those countries. That explanation doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
>>76495942
Lol, a security system. The border coverage we have is like having two security guards on a 200 acre property. Fucking retard.
>High fences
But that's the point, we don't have fences. See: pictures in this thread.
>>76494196
Some cant
Like i wouldnt trust a 22 or a 380 round to go through
>>76496279
We spend $7b/yr on enforcing a border that literally already kills people naturally because it's a god damn giant desert (see >>76494095). It's by far the largest and most militarized border in the world between two allied countries with huge trade agreements. Our border coverage is more than most countries' entire military. It's a little more than two guards on a 200 acre property.
As for the fences in this thread, aside from the anti vehicle fences posted (the large jacks looking things) most of the posted pictures are of private or non official pedestrian fence, which is much more substantial (see OP) and covers about a quarter of the border length (combined with anti vehicle fence about a third of the border length is covered). What remains is mostly inhospitable desert.
>>76496835
>inhospitable desert.
It kills a few people while millions get through
you're fucking retarded
> a third of the border length is covered
so hundreds of miles aren't walled off while there is a 4 foot fence "protecting" everything
People like you are a fifth column advocating for the Mexican conquest of the US, and deserve to be chucked out of helicopters
>>76496207
Ireland also has low IQ despite being high HDI
it's either low IQ or something wrong with the education system
>>76492900
Google images of structures trump has spent money to built, its a legacy of big things to compensate for that viagra filled baby dick,
>>76495078
Why are Botswanans so fucking retarded?
>>76497053
Millions don't go through the desert, that's the fucking point of the thread. They use other methods because the desert is the most dangerous. The amount that go through the desert is tiny compared to the amount that come in other ways. The whole point is that a wall in the desert will do almost nothing.
should I fap lads??
>>76497281
>its a legacy of big things to compensate for that viagra filled baby dick
lol, holy shit you're upset
>>76497281
Strong argument and sound logic; I'm now with #Shillary
>>76494887
Hmm good point there anon
>>76495440
That's alotta protein
>>76492900
Did you know that 80% of the women smuggled over the Mexican border are raped at least once during the process. Sometimes more. Young children too. So if you support illegal immigration, you support the process that gets women raped. Sick bastards. A good wall that is functional in keeping humans out is entirely possible. If it is built then there will be no more immigration in that area. Furthermore, cutting off the welfare to illegals would probably result in a significant amount to leave voluntarily. This is the way we should handle the immigration system. Trump will do something along these lines, I hope he is elected.
>then what logical reason is there for building a wall?
Sounds like a jobs program, to me.
>>76493985
What happens in the desert stays in the desert.
>>76493151
Honestly, a metaphorical wall would actually make more sense. The biggest issue with our border is that the border patrol has been crippled by the obama administration. They literally arent allowed to do their jobs.
>>76492900
Because fuck you.
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Actual wall
>>76493765
There are hundreds of miles of desert. If you want to move any large amount of drugs you'd use vehicles ie roads at point of entries. The better solution would be an improved screening system, or tagging vehicles and people who routinely cross the border for no reason.
This wall policy is dumbed down policy for retards
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>>76501326
you are dumb as shit
>only a few miles have anything more than a few feet
>none of them can actually stop vehicles
Serious question
Why don't we plant landmines in addition to building the wall?
>>76501463
3. all you really need is a wood ladder, someone to drop you a few miles from the wall and someone waiting a few miles on the other side to pick you up (assuming there is a high wall which 90% of the time there isn't
Anyway coming from someone living in a country where you are executed for spitting gum on the sidewalk you have no place to talk.
>>76501590
effective fences don't have giant gaps in them
>>76501629
And they don't take 18 seconds to climb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjKBjM1ngw
