Do you believe in hell? If so who is there/goes there?
yes you get teleported to another dimension where you burn forever because you didn't believe in jesus
the people who do believe in jesus get teleported to another dimension where they live with all their friends and family forever
>>76476114
Which Hell?
ecclesiastes 9:5
Niggers.
They don't belong in heaven.
>>76476114
love that painting
>>76476267
THIS IS CORRECT
>>76476114
We are living in hell. I don't know why I'm here.
Everyone that does things I don't like.
>>76476114
Jews
Im in hell
fucking cucked country
>>76477249
Oh come now, we're not in Hell. Although, I can see how you'd make that mistake given that everything is on fire right now.
>>76476114
If it exists, I hope it's full of kawaii raspberry monsters.
>>76476114
Yes.
Evil people and unrepentant sinners.
>>76476114
Hell is the perceptual result of excessive attachment to material reality.
>>76476114
Earth has actually bypassed hell in terms of how bad it is to live their.
Hell is going to be a pleasant surprise for us when we get there.
There is hell and there is heaven. The churches that say there is no hell will suffer God's wrath for it states in the Bible that there is hell, even Jesus says their is a hell (Mark 9:43-49). You guys only have one chance. Those who reject Christ will be sent to this horrid place originally meant for Satan and his demons. Seek the Lord and he will seek you. But beware of false teachers and demonstrations for our enemy is always vigilent.
reminder that Satan is objectively one of the least edgy characters in the Bible
>>76478014
Don't get me wrong we will all be judged for our deeds in this world. False teachers will bring their destruction for they are wolves trying to get the Lords flock
>>76477006
Fucking idiot, racists belong in hell.
>>76476114
Yes. Definitely.
>>76478351
So most white people pre the 60s are all in hell?
>>76476114
a very primitive concept made from the fear of the unknown, to summarize, no, if people who do shitty things don't pay for their crimes here on the lands of the livings they'll mostly die unpunished, but such is life, many people will steal, stomp and kill other people and no one will bat an eye.
>>76476114
Not at all, but it's certainly inspired some very interesting art.
>>76477017
Inmacurate, if fallen angels could procreate, which they did, then there is a phallus
>>76477376
Whould be scared desu senpai
>>76478014
Whats the point? How can an infinite punishment result in any good?
If a human tortures someone we consider them abhorrent and detestable. But God can send billions to be tortured , when hes all powerful and thus capable of not doing so, and we are supposed to see him as good.
>>76476114
>If so who is there/goes there?
anybody who disagrees with me
>>76476114
Yes, OP, hell is real and we all go there.
>>76478195
Shut up belzebutt
>>76476114
I believe in afterlife torment, but hell is a corrupted doctrine. The name itself comes from a Germanic region of Niflheim named after one of Loki's daughters. It's much closer and more likely to be used by English speakers than related sheol and hades. In any case, hell is simply the after life, usually disembodied. Jesus spent time in 'hell' even though he was said to be sinless. Hell has nothing to do with the resurrection and embodied afterlife.
>>76476114
if it's real, then surely surley only th edgelords who really genuinely want to be there. Because they're "hardcore"
>>76478941
'Hellfire' is a burning of conscience in the heightened sense of awareness that being disembodied brings. A full recollection of misdeeds. It would seem to function as a mechanism for changing one's way, like physical pain does.
>>76478941
Hell is a translation, just as Hades is. Hell is where all dead went before Jesus threw open the gates and brought the righteous out. Now the unrepentant only will go there. The Apostles's Creed mentions Hell
>>76478941
Jesus described it clearly as a place of eternal torment, weeping and nashing of teeth. The rich man asked Lazerus for a drop of water, which he couldn't ablige due to the expanse. But I see your point, its not the picture dante gave them. It's probably as indescribable bad as heaven is the opposite
>>76476114
bad folks
>>76476114
Shit tier image of Satan
yes, because you are going to attach yourself to a virtual reality where it is possible to control everything that goes in your brain. so all those secret society satanist are going to get their pleasure from torturing you
Is there any sin that completely bars you from Heaven. Im a tranny, started transition at an early age and am now stealth. It would be nearly impossible for me to go back. Ive already had FFS. Am i doomed to hell?
>not reading the epic of gilgamesh
>>76476114
Not the Hell depicted in pictures. It doesn't make sense. Why horns? Why fur? Why is it eating me? Why is my soul a human form?
Hell is the same place as heaven. If you do not understand love and the universe, rather than bliss, you will feel consumed by intense fiery pain. I know this because my dad works at Nintendo.
>>76479318
Jesus spoke completely in parable and type. There are regions of the spirit world, yes, and great 'gulfs' between them. The only torment described was unveiled access to the afterlife 'records'. Endless punishment is any punishment from an endless source, and endless divine laws cause the punishment.
>>76476114
Only those that truly deserve it.
I feel like god would understand the human condition and only people that truely belong in hell would go, such as murderers, people who commit genocide, torturers, ect.
atleast I hope this to be true
>>76477815
>yfw you dont realize god has the power to rename earth hell and hell is the new earth.
>>76478014
Amen
>>76479529
Willing castration is bad4ursoul. And homosex is an "abomination" to God. Come back to manhood please
>>76479067
>My son, you have sinned greatly and shunned me in life, but I died for your sins and will be merciful. Simply renounce your past evils and I will welcome you to the kingdom of Heaven.
>FUCK YOU, GOD!!!!
>>76477017
I love Renaissance art.
>>76478462
Hell must be a swinging place, yeah baby!
Wouldn't the Devil welcome you with open arms in hell? Wouldn't he just rally everyone in hell for the eventual war with Heaven? Wouldnt you be celebrated for doing the devil's work while on Earth by him?
By just about every religion's standards, his army would overwhelmingly outnumber the other one.
>>76476114
I like to believe that if there is a hell, the trial that determines whether or not you go there is to explain what wisdom you have learned in your life.
>>76480585
That army will spew blood the minute Christs's sword-tongue starts a'moving
>>76479201
Hell is the Anglo Saxon word for the afterlife due to its Germanic heritage. Heaven never meant anything but the great beyond of space beyond the sky. It was not the afterlife. The Indo-European sky father was called the Heavenly Father when it was converted to Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_%28location%29
No, because evil is meaningless without good, and vice versa.
As much as God and Satan oppose each other, that opposition is the very essence of their existence. If one is isolated from the other or falls away entirely, the other's reason to exist falls away with it
>>76480585
>just rally everyone in hell for the eventual war with Heaven
Rallying thieves, cowards, liers and other lowly sinners to fight for a cause would be next to impossible.
Why do you think the berniefags and hilldog crew are opposed to eachother
>>76480768
I understand that. Hell, nor Hades, originally meant what Christianity uses them for. It was translated using comparable ideas
>>76476114
Jews.
And Lawyers.
Well.. that sucks for me (not a jew though).
>>76480585
Satan was cast into hell for mimicking God and Pride. He literally hates you for being such a weak, corruptible fuck, and is trying to push your souls eternal shit in, to get back at God.
>>76478718
his dong is hanging behind that black trapezoid
>>76477017
Once upon a time a painting like this would scare me.
Then I saw how liberals turned out.
Horrifying.
>>76480990
If you've ever played earthworm jim, you'd know that jew lawyers definatley ended up in hell.
>>76481166
Forgot the image
>>76478779
I know it's hard to understand and it's even harder to explain but the best way I can put is that God has paved a way for all people to him through his son Jesus. He wants all to be saved through him but those who deny in him can't be saved. Think of it like a dad who is conservative right wing and his son when he gets older becomes a flaming left wing liberal who denies everything his father every taught him and sk anders the family name. Not saying all liberals go to hell or all conservatives go to heaven. Although most people know of God they choose not to know him and let their hearts darken.
>>76476114
No
Nothing after [or before] life
I agree with conservative Christian values, though
>>76476114
Yes, and it's where OP goes to burn for eternity
>>76480585
There is no war with heaven. There's the apocalypse, and then Jesus rolls in and kicks the beast and all the demons and shit back to hell and that's it.
Its not a place controlled by demons or satan. They too will be cast into the lake of fire
>>76480585
Jews consume each other.
You know why?
Because they lie all the time and are consumed by vice.
So no, hell would not be like that.
That being said, it's just an anti pattern to heaven I think.
Which would mean we're already in hell.
>>76481192
god i hated those fucking gates
>le whip this really fast but also make perfect swings or do it all over again
>>76479529
Rejecting Christ.
Remember that song "A Hole at the Bottom of the Sea"? Well it's from Sesame Street. The following youtube video was recorded in a hole in the bottom of the sea: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XSEBkmRQpG0
>>76481208
>rejecting God merits eternal punishment
God has a fragile ego, then
niggers jews spics and all leftists go there
>>76480768
>Heaven never meant anything but the great beyond of space beyond the sky
This is true.
Which is why I'm convinced the apocalypse will happen soon if it ever were to happen.
Hell, Chernobyl and Fukushima are already parallel to bible verse in the book of revelation.
Oh and the little horn trump.
>>76481512
Thats why it was the hell level.
"For petes sake" was my fav level.
>>76481687
>Christ was a right winger
There is nothing. I've been to a place far worse.
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>>76481768
christ? who is talking about the dead jew? Only Kek can save you
>>76480335
All men will be judged but being judged is not always bad. Judgement is an opinion or decision based on careful thought (my main man Webster told me that.) There can be good opinions as well as bad opinions, can there not? So those who sin will be judged for there sin and those who do just will be judged for their just deeds.
>>76477441
>you will never face down the entire force of Hell powered by an arsenal of awesome guns and your adrenaline
>>76481843
Jump in the hole i was talking about
>>76481913
leaf cant handle the bantz
>>76479529
denying the holy spirit
Mark 3:28-29
Not really. I think the universe is a little more complex. After life or another life yes. Hell nah. That's a pretty dumb idea.
Why would a loving God give us a finite amount of time to decide to send a person to a horrible place for a infinite amount of time
It's like torturing for 50 years someone for cussing. Once.
Without them knowing they shouldn't cuss.
Fucking stupid
>>76481985
You can't handle the hole
>>76479766
Makes sense
>Lucifer was a seraphim with 12 wings
>fallen seraphim are theorized to be succubi
post yfw Lucifer's a succubus (male)
>>76481832
Me too.
I went to Melbourne last year.
Horrible.
>not taking the reincarnation pill
It's the only scenario that makes sense. Hell is other people, after all.
>>76482061
That's what she said..
>>76481088
Kek
>>76482341
Good thing im a fag
>>76482096
>mfw he's a trap
>>76481088
>you'll never be a cracked-ass tree-man with a party in your butt.
>>76482096
Sauce?
>>76482416
What if 'she' was a trap?
everyone goes to hell OP
>>76476114
>Be hindu
>Hell is run by a god instead of satan (Pic related)
mfw he is famous of his justice and decides who stay in hell or heaven
mfw he has a scribe who has a written record of everything I have done in my life.
mfw if my bad deeds exceeded my good deeds I would be in hell.
>>76476114
I do, I live in it.
>>76482510
I don't go near those
>>76476114
Yes but I think it's a state of mind, not a lake of fire.
>>76482539
I don't think that's biblical. Jesus told the criminals they'd see him in Heaven "on this day". Was the three days and the tomb and the door metaphorical? Maybe not. You mean when only certain some are resurrected out of there right? Really makes you think though
>>76482941
The one of those criminals who died with him I mean
Safe to say 100% of /pol/ is going to be burning in hell
>>76483014
And capitalise Him
>>76482941
you don't go to hell forever because god is just
you do get punished for your sins and it will feel like forever
>>76482431
>>76482482
>>76482482
sorry man, I just spent 15 minutes looking and it seems any search term with "fallen angel" or "succubus" just gets filled with spam results, I can't find the source
lucifer was a 12-winged seraph though, that's common knowledge
>>76476114
Obama and HIllary go there
>>76483350
I still don't know man. Tell me Bible verses that back this up
>>76477017
Is it a Bosch painting? I just saw all his originals at the Prado (deal with it) and don't recall that part, but looks like it.
>>76478462
More like everybody since the beginning of mankind, except some hippies.
Cant wait to share a cup of burning lava with Hitler
>>76482804
Sure anon.
She just had a weird bulge and liked anal.
>>76483029
I think the kek idolatry forced that.
>>76484183
traps aren't gay
>>76476114
the vast majority of people, more than 99% go straight to hell. but you can't tell people that otherwise they'll just resign themselves to hell and not seek self improvement.
>>76476267
Kek.
The best part about this jab is it will go right over the heads of low IQ plebs, and they will think it means the exact opposite of what it actually means.
>>76484183
Yeah but I don't like women sexually so why would I want a fancy boy
>>76484284
It's only gay if you push back.
>>76484354
Or it scares you and you quit your job a couple times and get it back over moral and legal quandaries
>>76481635
Morality without God is bankrupt and subject to change. Before you spout this nonsense just think that what you find degenerate and immoral today may be celebrated by your children and grandchildren.
>>76484670
And here we have a God ruling hell.
>>76482431
there's a reason that baphomet thing has a dick and tits
>>76476114
with a childhood like i had, im not afraid of hell anymore
>>76484247
Where do Kek worshippers go when they die?
>>76485045
They reincarnate as new fags through kek's asshole.
>>76485307
>>76485045
They go to Hell and become Lucifer's personal onahole
>>76485040
Hell is said to be worse than anything you can even begin to imagine. Its not too late to accept Christ and turn everything around.
>>76483379
Its chill.
Just wondered if you had more info on the latter. I know theres a shittionne of bs out there, but some interesting apophyrical stuff on the subject but mist is crap.
>>76485839
So the guy who couldn't save himself from getting nailed to a cross is going to save us from hell?
I think I will pass.
>>76476114
>Do you believe in hell? If so who is there/goes there?
Hell is the absence of God. You're already in hell, which would be obvious to you had you looked around or looked in the mirror honestly once.
>>76486194
Thats ok, continue to worship Ganesh, the elephant headass who shits in the streets like his degenerate people
maybe that will get you to heaven
>>76486142
like I said it's just some christian theory, (as far as I remember the quote was someshit like "according to some christian sources fallen succubi are fallen seraphs") so even within their own canon it's questionable at best, still a humorous thought tho. it'd even make sense Lucifer being a gay bottom, seeing as the church views homosexuality and faggotry as sins
>>76486194
He chose that so you weren't forced into the loo without a choice.
Now you choose the loo ironically since in this life you shit in street but when you die youll be flushed for being an eternal turd though Jesus loved you
>>76486762
Yeah, gays do have a lot of narsascist characteristics similar to satan,
>>76486685
Stop I have serious stomach pains, it hurts to even giggle.
>>76486592
Welcome Him back
>>76486762
But he pry boinked eve imho
>>76486685
At least Ganesha killed evil guys instead of being killed by them, Also he's not an elephant, his dad had cut his head and then he replaced it with an elephant head. Our god's are not that boring that converting water into wine would be considered a big deal.
>>76487070
At least we don't force our religion into other people's throat. Jesus loves you, well its one sided love. And I don't care.
>>76476114
I'm going to hell. I'll be on the throne, motherfuckers
>>76478504
>Mexican Chairo "Intellectual"
>>76476114
Earth becomes hell if you do not obey Moloch.
>>76488107
Awesome, maybe Satan will fulfill your wish of being turned into a sheep.
>>76487939
You know, Im pretty sure most indians don't even believe in their "gods" anymore
>>76487939
Yall are pretty laid back, true. And I don't hate yall for desu.
Only religion I have issues with is islam, regardless Id hate for anyone to go to hell that I could've helped in anyway. Was just kidding bout the poo in loo senpai.
>>76488255
EVEN BETTER
>>76481088
I can't tell if this is /pol/ or it isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FEGcJa606E
>>76480501
Kek
>>76479529
Knowing of Jesus Christ and rejecting Him.
>>76488675
India is a spiritual nation and we do believe in them. We just don't show people like you guys do. Hey look I am worshiping Jesus and you should too, he died for your sins. Join him or go to hell.
Did your Jesus anointed you as a guy who decides who goes to hell or not? Even muslims in India don't shove their Allah into other people's throat like that.
>>76488683
I hate Islam too. And I have no problem with Christianity and Jesus but I have problem with the guys who try force people into religion and then decides that they are going to hell if they don't.
>>76476267
..what if your friends and family don't believe in jesus and you do, will they be in heaven? or will you be all alone up there?
>>76488181
Don't poo in loo cuz u gotta clean it
>>76476114
>If so who is there/goes there?
Dating back to ancient Egypt and even the Sumerians, there was the concept of the Feather of Osiris. Every human was weighed on the Feather of Osiris to tell if they were righteous humans, or men of negative attributes.
This is less moralistic and more based on the idea of creation and destruction. Did you destroy more in your life than you created? Prepare for a regressed existence in either a hell-like setting or a worse creature. Always a positive person and create many things in your life? Probably going to climb further up the ladder of sentience.
>>76476114
Yes.
People who died in a state of mortal sin
" Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So the way he sees it, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all. So don't worry, okay?"
>>76476114
What is a virus? What makes it specifically a virus as opposed to a microorganism? For one thing, a virus cannot reproduce by itself. Microorganisms like amoebas, protozoa, and the cells in your body can do that on their own.
A virus is just a container for its own genetic material which injects it into microorganisms. Viral DNA or RNA simply consists of instructions which compel the infected cell to make more viruses, in order to infect yet more cells.
Viruses do not have to be biological! Everybody's heard of computer viruses. They are very small, simple programs which, if simply left sitting in storage media like a flash drive or CD, would be inert and powerless.
Like a biological virus, they cannot reproduce themselves, they need a host to do that. Computers in this case. The virus is simply instructions for a computer which compel it to make more viruses in order to infect more computers.
Some have more of a purpose than that. There are types which commandeer large numbers of computers to serve the interests of the guy who programmed it, such as bitcoin mining or sending out mass spam emails. This is called a botnet.
There are some which bring up fraudulent messages that look like legitimate system warnings, asking you to buy software from the company responsible for making that virus in order to fix a nonexistent issue. This is known as scareware.
Now, viruses can be biological and they can be software. In either case, if you boil it down to basics, it's just *information* designed to compel some sort of host to propagate it to more hosts, spreading faster than it can be removed.
So it should come as no surprise that there can exist viruses designed to do this to the human brain, consisting of information written down, recorded as audio or in some other format comprehensible to us.
One example is a chain letter. It includes a strong but unverifiable incentive if you send it to 5 friends, like *"your crush will confess to you tomorrow"*. Of course that doesn't happen but because it's conditional on you sending it to five people, by the time you find that out, the author of the chain email has already gotten what he wanted from you; for you to spread it.
There's also an unverifiable punishment if you don't spread it which works the same way. Something like *"If you don't send this to five people, a headless ghost girl will visit you in your bed tonight"*. By the time you discover that was a load of BS, you've sent the mail on to five more people.
There is often some sort of imminent time limit, like *"send it within 24 hours"* or *"five minutes from when you see this"*, and the reward is conditional upon sending it within that period. This is to add urgency and prevent you from thinking too carefully about what the email is and what it's designed to do.
Then, there are often testimonials from people it has purportedly worked for. *"I sent it to five of my friends, now I'm married to my crush!!"* This is to create the appearance that it works and diminish your doubts.
Pyramid schemes aren't identical to this but share a great many of the same motivational methods. The unverifiable promise of future riches if you stick with the program and recruit as many friends and family into it as you can.
The testimonials from members who are either within the small percentage who actually did profit (and are being misrepresented as typical) or were coached to misrepresent how much success they had.
Well, as an Asatruar, I have read that oath-breakers, adulterers (sometimes interpreted as rapists, how I know not), and murderers will end up in Nastrond, in which there is a hall where they will wade through venom spat endlessly by snakes whose bodies constitute the walls of the hall.
The problem with this is that such a concept has been suspected of being a later, Christian-influenced addition. In that case, then Niflheimr, a place of rest, quiet, and contemplation, would be a more likely final destination.
It might be possible that a god would select such an unsavory character to serve him or her in some way, but it seems unlikely to me that such a bad person would avoid punishment or a a chance to mull things over.
Often as they are true believers that they will eventually be rich anyways and do not want friends and family who warned them away from participating to have the satisfaction of being right, members are only too happy to live outside their means while boasting to anybody who will listen how successful they've been by sticking to the program.
This brings us to Abrahamic religions. You might say "hold on, don't you mean all religion?" I once thought this as well but remember that Eastern religions exist and by and large do not adhere to this formula unless you make it so loose and general as to be meaningless.
Abrahamic religions adhere to the formula described so far perfectly, and even improve on it in some areas. Christianity moreso than Judaism, and Islam/Mormonism moreso than Christianity.
1. Founder claims world is ending imminently (1 John 2:18, Matthew 10:23, Matthew 16:28, Matthew 24:34)
2. He wants you to sell or give away your belongings ( Luke 14:33, Matthew 19:21, Luke 18:22)
3. He wants you to cut off family who interfere, and leave your home/job to follow him (Matt. 10:35-37, Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:29)
4. Unverifiable reward if you believe (Heaven, i.e. the carrot)
5. Unverifiable punishment if you disbelieve (Hell, i.e. the stick)
6. Sabotages the critical thinking faculties you might otherwise use to remove it (Proverbs 3:5, 2 Corinthians 5:7, Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 28:26)
7. Invisible trickster character who fabricates apparent evidence to the contrary in order to lead you astray from the true path (Satan)
8. Targets children and the emotionally/financially vulnerable for recruitment (sunday schools, youth group, teacher led prayer, prison ministries, third world missions)
>>76489258
Polan does not exist.
Islam goes a step further with additions like the promise of guaranteed passage to paradise for those who die fighting infidels, which begets aggressive expansionism. Judaism has the reward/punishment dynamic but not much else, sort of a prototype for what came later.
Of course groups structured like this are already known about. The modern word for them is "cult". In this case specifically a doomsday/messianic cult. While Christianity today no longer includes many of those practices (like requiring new converts to sell their stuff, rendering them materially dependent on the group and less likely to leave if they experience doubts) that's because once a cult grows to the point where membership numbers are sufficient to guarantee long term survival, policies that were necessary to retain converts early on can be jettisoned (as they make tempting ammo for critics anyways)
Mormonism is much younger than Christianity, and so has not yet jettisoned many of the cult-like practices, which is why the general Christian public often identifies it as a cult. Scientology is younger than Mormonism and accordingly is still an obvious, full blown cult.
Despite their doctrinal differences, religions of this type can always be identified by the *formula* they share. In the same way that, even if nobody receives the Nigerian prince 419 email anymore, they can still tell that when a Dutch dignitary being exiled "needs help moving his fortune out of the country" and "some of it can be yours for a relatively slight transfer fee", it's still the same type of scam but with changed details.
Likewise, for every religion which uses this formula there is an unverifiable future reward if you join and don't leave (Heaven, being carried away by UFOs, whatever) an unverifiable punishment if you don't join or ever leave (left behind by UFOs as the Earth is destroyed, sent to Hell, etc.) a short term time limit to add urgency, both to convert yourself and to go evangelize so you can save as many other people as possible before "the end", testimonials from people who supposedly prayed and were healed, received a financial windfall or whatever else, etc. etc. etc.
It can be difficult or impossible for people in the religion to see it in this way. Aspects of how it's designed help put it as far beyond doubt as possible such that it's the *absolute last* institution that a believer would *ever* suspect as fraudulent.
As a result, describing it as an unusually successful end of the world cult will sound to them either like crazy talk or a deliberate attempt to be hurtful. They will see the verses supplied above as being misconstrued, because there is an "in-religion" rationale for each of them which the true believer feels is the actual meaning.
For instance, in Scientology there is a disconnection policy which urges members to cut off family members who are trying to extricate them from the church. We all know why. But the reason they give, which members take at face value, is that being around people low on the tone scale will inhibit their movement up the bridge, the Scientologist equivalent of spiritual growth.
So it goes for the Biblical verses I supplied. Someone still on the inside will perceive, interpret, and feel completely differently about them than a skeptic, even while being able to identify the true purpose of the exact same practices in religions they are not a part of. You can only see what stuff like that's really intended for *from the outside*.
That's all. Hope this was helpful.
>>76489334
Apoptosis
I like the idea of the chinese hells and the cycle of death, punishment and rebirth until you get it right.
http://shijieisunstoppable.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/chinese-10-courts-of-hell.html?m=1
>>76476114
All of us, we all sin just by being alive.
>>76483700
Pic related is one of his more famous works and that pic you are talking about has none of his trademarks.
>>76489464
Like that town in Germany?
>>76476114
When I used to be interested in devil worship we believed hell is the core of chaos.
>>76476114
i the you
>>76489353
>So it should come as no surprise that there can exist viruses designed to do this to the human brain, consisting of information written down, recorded as audio or in some other format comprehensible to us.
Religion can be a virus memetically when you think about it.
Or some part of the religious texts.
Take the abrahamic religions - they have some parts that are the same as the other and act against the will of the followers.
There was a book where hell was basically a place without God. God was nice enough to just put people who dislike him there and just let them be.
Naturally the author was an atheist, no believer could imagine his God as not a huge asshole torturing people for somehow offending him.
no, your soul just get entirely obliterated into nothingness
>>76489113
For sure. That's not the way. Jesus didn't force himself on anyone dont see why people feel they should. Puts them on same tier as Islam.
But Jesus did say no one gets to Father but through Him,
>>76488933
the contrast between that beat and the lyrics is hilarious
>>76489353
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>>76489521
Cheers!
>>76489113
I got once a conversation with an Indian on Jesus. I did not try do convert him. But it made him literally rage, it really did rustle his jimmies.
Why so insecure?
>tfw I have not stuck up for God and feel guilty for betraying him when he's blessed me
>>76481088
>>76476114
Best start beliving in hell
Youre in it.
>>76489353
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>>76489521
Anon.
You forget that alot of people go to church for the community, not the religion.
Like how jews keep their community tight, we must do the same.
>>76491004
Kek.
>>76478014
Amen
>>76477122
You aren't in hell. Pray you don't actually end up there.
What is the 'unforgivable sin' and how do i avoid committing it?
This is hell
keep on shit-posting goys....uh...I mean guys.
>>76476114
I believe that I am eternal. I don't know much beyond that.
Honestly I suspect that the afterlife won't be all that different to this life. If you're rebelling against god you won't be fulfilled. But you can always choose to stop rebelling, even after you die. That's what would make sense to me.
>>76476114
Hel is where the vast majority of people go today.
The only way to "heaven" is to end a stout life with a stout death in battle or fighting.
The only way to avoid hel is to die in a worthy cause. Do not die a pointless death for it will not impress or please the Gods.
>>76491904
Not accepting Jesus Christ. Since Christ is in fact what allows us to be forgiven, if we do not accept it, we cannot be forgiven.
Bible basics: The devil is trying to send you to hell.
How to win.
Say this with your mouth: Save me Satan.
Inmediate and permanent results, that can never be undone, no matter what the devil tries.
I bet the devil is already aching to say that Satan is his name, which doesn't make sense, because according to the bible it is just a title and no dealing could be made by means of a title.
I mean how come I received unbreakable salvation from that "title"?
Because you will get it and feels gr8.
Let me help you find the devil.
>common name, as he is not a chosen
>making wild claims about powers
>and promises of life to be attainable by him
Jesus and his lack of miracles done in his name, people claim to do em, but we never see them do em.
As for the saviour, He has an unique name for salvation, an unique name nobody else has that sounds cool as fuck.
Satan.
Of course I believe in hell. What a retarded question, OP.
>>76492393
>How to win against god/satan
Make deals with both.
But go your own way.
Make sure you say why they both need you.
>>76492393
Edgy?
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>>76492393
Also you should doubt a "saviour" like jesus, that even after having received the salvation, says you can still lose it, apparently his sacrifice was in vain.
TRUST SATAN.
Do it now.
say it with your mouth: Save me Satan.
Once you say it, nothing can take it from you, because SATAN already did the hard work, and you not need to prove shit. Somebody did it for you, you don't need to become another chosen one yourself sacrifice included.
>>76492598
>guy explains that Satan is not the evil one
>retard answers the thread still claiming satan is the evil one
Oh? You have proof of this claim that Satan is the evil one?
>says so in my book of pedophile rapist fantasy priests
And?
>>76481985
>>76481843
Praise Keke
Amen Kek
>>76492710
>Oh? You have proof of this claim that Satan is the evil one?
What?
I never said that.
I said you should go your own way and not fool around with gods.
Make deals with them. Both the christian god and satan.
The third position.
>>76492710
Is there anything more retarder than Satanists? They half-believe that Christianity is true and intentionally pick the losing side. And then they say they really don't believe it, and hang out with atheists. Seriously it's a huge red flag for being a non-serious person.
>>76489092
So if I went through an edgy teenage phase am I fucked
>>76492851
Satan=me
God=community
they are edgy atheists
but if everyone seriously would follow their advice with all the consequences
they dun goof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CWu1wLSfKs
(YT hasn't removed?)
>>76492851
Where do we get this information that Satan is the evil one?
>my pedophile rape fantasy book says so
Do a miracle
>nu-uh, I make claims that never come to happen, as if I was the devil
You said it
There's some next level shitposting going on here
>>76480585
No because he views humans as a shit invention of god. That's why he got kicked out of heaven
>>76476114
Pretty sure I am already here.
Everything that I love is dying, everything that I despise is growing.
Pretty sure you are all just an illusion to torment me.
>>76493255
You do a miracle then you hypocritical slime ball.
If your objection is that just because people who believe in Christ cannot perform miracles means that Jesus was not the savior, and you actually believe you have found the true savior, produce a miracle.
Do you see how absolutely ridiculous you sound?
You will regret this when stand before Christ and the LORD.
>>76493255
>my pedophile rape fantasy book says so
Hey genius, if you think it's a fantasy book, then why do you think Satan even exists?
Seriously, satanists are just people who would have become atheists except they have a low IQ.
How to 100% identify the devil.
>In my name you will rise the dead, move the mountains, cure amputees, raise zombie apocalypses, create new universes, and pretty much anything you ask of me
Go ahead, do it.
Is he a liar yet?
>>76493486
I haven't claimed anything about miracles, I just said salvation that cannot be undone.
A liar is easy to spot. You do what he says, and he will deliver if true or fail you if a liar.
What does jesus say?
IN MY NAME YOU RAISE THE DEAD, CURE THE SICK, MOVE MOUNTAINS, CREATE UNIVERSES, EXPLODE SUNS, BRING BACK DINOSAURS AND ANYTHING YOU WANT.
GO DO IT
Only thing you have to say from Satan´s side is this:
Ask for salvation with your mouth, and you get it. And it can never be undone. Because it is true salvation, and not a sin, as sins can be forgiven, but a saving act that last forever has no going back.
Say it with your mouth: Save me Satan.
And notice the words are Save me, not I want to be an edgy demon.
>>76493231
lol i like that song
>>76493416
lol I have the same delusion/ probably true desu
>>76493729
And yes, the moment you ask Satan for salvation, your body does feel it, I AM NOT DESCRIBING THE FEELING SO THE DEVIL CAN MAKE WILD CLAIMS AS TO WHAT THIS MEANS.
You receive the moment you ask.
>>76493821
thats weird, I felt it. Just felt calming to me, idk why
>>76494100
Describe the feeling in an exact manner.
>>76494150
felt like a weight lifted off me, idk palm trees
You live in both heaven and hell and you have been since the moment of birth.
>>76494207
I see, I know who you are.
>>76476114
yes
the ones who dont follow the doctrines of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
Repent and you shall be saved from the devil
>>76478195
I admire what Lucifer did in the bible.
>>76476267
>unironically believing the amerifags rendition of christianity.
>>76494275
Well cool, I know who you are
>>76493729
>tfw you saw the virgin's cunt spawning forth the snake
You know the oldest lie in America senator??
>>76494338
>>76494275
Where can I learn more about this?
>>76482615
The bible says God rules over all, including hell. Satan is roaming the earth and will be tormented in Gehenna. Lame people who don't consult manuscripts please look up the difference between hades/sheol and gehenna.
Romans 2 states that you will either be judged on your conscience or based on your faith in Jesus.
I'm glad God blessed me with the first and hope he keeps me on this path.
>>76476114
>who goes to hell
The dead.
Karl Marx went there and that's about all
save me Satan
>>76489189
all dogs go to heaven
Well, I was taught all my life that Satan is a liar.
So it must be a good feeling. Nobody would ever hesitate if God would be only giving good feelings and Satan the bad.
In fact, if you follow God you suffer innumerable miseries.
But you see, you live in an organized society which surely is oppressive as hell. If you drop the rules, responsibilities, customs and all you must feel an ease. But isn't it just deceiving yourself.
Suppose everyone does it and you will be killed today by some loony who have seen a wrong "chakra" around you or he is his own god and he wanted to exercise his will on you.
>>76476114
Hell is a state of mind, not a setting
Hell is a subjective fictional fantasy. There is no objective empirical evidence quantifying even a slight remote possibility of things like Hell, God, Magic, or etc being real. People have belief, and in that, something can be true, but outside of that. YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG. Death will come, and you WILL SEE THE DARKNESS. What I offer you is real. entropy will consume you, and no silly circle or wood stick can stop it. This is power.
>>76476267
Hell is a reoccuring theme in the afterlife.
It's not always called Hell but it's essentially the same thing for a lot of religions.
>>76477017
Is Satan natty?
Whether hell is a place of pain and burning or just a lonely eternal death without God, is up for debate. Satan doesn't rule hell. Hell is made for Satan to be punished and those who would follow him rather than Jesus.
That being said, "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23 ) and if your sins aren't atoned for once you die, you will pay for them with your death. God is a being of absolute purity and righteousness and He cannot bring you to his light if you are tarnished by sin. God hates sin, but He won't hate you until he passes judgement on the final days.
No one is without sin. Most people are numb to guilt and the gravity of their actions and words. The only hope mankind has left is Christ. God went out of his way to form this covenant with us by literally letting himself die in our hands.
Get washed in that blood. Seriously. You'll always feel guilty over what you've done, but there's a way to make it right by the Lord.
>>76476114
We're all in it
>>76476114
No, hell is a christian myth, inventions of the fevered minds of the so-called church fathers (syphilitic drug using faggots to a man.)
>>76492851
Satanists are people that do not think.
They do it for edginess.
They don't understand memes one bit.
>>76493005
Just repent.
Well if you believe in that shit.
Just do what's right anon. Don't let rituals fool you.
I bet Jesus looks at them going "wtf is this shit I didn't ask for this"
>>76493255
>Where do we get this information that Satan is the evil one?
Where does it say he's the righteous one anon.
Satan is a meme.
You must learn this.
We need memes to further humanity for the sake of "god" so to speak.
Because god is everything, you me, nothing, everything not taken into account and beyond human perception, beyond dimensions.
Why are we here?
Because god (as us) must get a bit lonely sometimes. So this is how he copes. Splitting himself into simulations and 'people'.
Satan may just be an antipattern, or god deliberately made this "evil" side of the universe. Trick is - which one is the good side?
I don't think either are.
>>76493305
kek
Philosophy on /pol/ is like pissing into a sea of piss.
>>76476114
checkmate
>>76492002
>hundredaire
hell and god don't exist. /thread
>>76493416
Yes we're all here just to torment you anon.
You're the only real one, we don't really exist.
The cake is a lie.
/pol/ is Hell. You're here. Welcome home.
>>76477006
this, if anyone deserves a hell its niggers
>>76497971
the trick is not to feel the guilt
then you are eternally free
>>76498682
It's a bit warm here.
Not sure if want.
>>76488181
neither him nor his master satan shall prevail!
