Ideas to make El Salvador a better place?
Here are mines:
>Bring back the death-squads
Of course our "pro-human rights" american volunteers will go batshit crazy, but they are the best option to effectively fight gangs in a short time.
>Death penalty for Gang-leaders, Gang-recruiters and Drug dealers
Let's take example from Singapore, or Duterte-ruled Davao city. Again, "pro-human rights" american activists will be absolutely against this, but is deeply needed, for effective short-term results.
>Confiscation of any property owned by gang-members and their relatives, that can't be justified to have been paid in an honest way
Apart from properties, this will also include goods such as TV's, iPhones, xbox and any shit that they can't show proof of have been paid with honest income.
>Declare Communism and Marxism illegal
Because this is like drug for lazy losers who poses zero skills and zero desire to make an effort improve themselves, but are highly envious of anyone who does.
>Expell Jesuits
These guys are bro-tier with communists and gangmembers. They will protect, feed, support and shill for group that is against the law and order
I could continue writing more, but I'd like to read what you think guys. Please share your ideas and opinions!
I just tried to google your country, and the first thing that popped up was gangs.
You got a culture problem, which includes corruption and low trust among each other, which means everyone is fighting for himself.
The only solution would go against human rights.
>>76440479
>Ideas to make El Salvador a better place?
Complete obliteration.
>>76440950
Absolutely true. Human rights belong only to developed and civilized societies. You can only fight savagery with violence. But this is something that your average euro-american suburb-dweller liberal-arts-major kid won't understand.
>>76441775
The aryan of the south strikes again
>t-shirts
>largest export
the fuck
>>76442413
I've seen 15 min of this documentary now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGG7lRJJkJk
It says you don't have many jobs available, and those jobs that are available, has so low wage you barely can live for it.
Your population is not much bigger than ours, so you probably can't be great production nation like the US can.
Instead, you should do as we Scandis does, we're not good at very many things, but we're experts in a few things. I'm not sure what that could be in your case, but right now we're concentrating on green energy, which is new and there is not that many who focus on that.
You don't need to solve the problem you choose to be expert in, but be very good at one step of it.
>>76443523
Actually there are plenty of available Low-wage jobs, not very well paid indeed, but enough to make it to the end of the month without starving, just having the minimum.
Now, I'm not saying that this is fine or acceptable, but the problem is that liberals want to justify gang-member violence because of this:
"Omg that kids only option was working 10 hours a day, not even making enough to buy an iphone or jordan shoes. Totally understandable that he went out to kill a family-man who works 10 hours a day to make the minimum, because he couldn't afford paying "the rent" that the kid (gangmember) asked for"
About the economy problem. I think the quickest way to make the economy grow would be to explode the cheap flights to and from big US cities: tourism. Invest in touristic facilities and make it accessible to all budgets.
>>76442453
>t-shirts and gangmembers
Sadder than pic related Bulg-pai
>Ideas to make El Salvador a better place?
Nuke it.
>>76444696
>Actually there are plenty of available Low-wage jobs
That's good to hear. I don't know if this is a problem, but make it easier for people to travel to these jobs. Very important.
>liberals want to justify gang-member violence
That documentary I'm watching says, that your population have gone from wanting justice to revenge, and are actually talking about genocide. Pretty based.
You should do that, get your slap on the wrist by the international community, get a memorial day for the """horrible""" thing you did, and all will be forgotten in 10 years.
>tourism
You need a story for that and almost a unique culture. Cuba is the hot thing right now, because they have been isolated for so long and everyone wanna go there before they change too much. We got fed up with beaches and good wether. It's all about the authentic experience right now.
>>76445833
>your population have gone from wanting justice to revenge, and are actually talking about genocide
Ask any low-income worker, ask any micro-business owner, ask any poor struggling university student who works part-time and you'll hear the same: Kill all gang members. Problem solved.
The only ones against this are the super richs and the political elite, who actually benefit from all this confusion. Who has enough time to care about beyond-over-priced government purchases for useless projects, when you see on the news the list of atrocities that have been committed that day?
So they don't want the gangs to be gone, because as long as they remain, violence and safety will be the biggest concern for the population, everything else such as corruption, crumbling educative institutions and useless programs, comes second.
About tourism, I was thinking of something like a colonial disney land. You know, give people that fantasy feeling that they are actually going back in time. Would you like that?
>>76444933
Mexican spotted
too many funds are lost in big projects for example longitudinal del norte.
every minucipality in el salvador is in debt and all funds that come into that municipality are horribly wasted, only a very few are used for actual projects.
i don't think democracy belongs in el salvador just yet, El Salvador needs a dictator or a ''duterte'' to put things into place, too many people, who dont give a rats-ass about the people of el salvador, are in power, many are incompetent. so many women in power who have no idea what they are doing. it's a big mess. that is why El salvador needs 1 ruler, not 400 leeches.
i could go on, i work with 3 other salvadorians, all very succesful here and we talk about this stuff all the time, some great ideas we have but most likely we will never had the chance of implementing them. one guy in our group did want to go back and become a mayor but news came that his brother was almost killed by gang members and it stopped after that.
>>76447093
Corruption will always keep a poor country poor.
The way our king in the 16th century dealt with it, was to strip the corrupt from all his titles, his land and his money. But his motivation was that, if people around him was corrupt, then he wouldn't be 100% in charge.
But still, harsh, harsh punishment for corruption will be needed
>colonial disney land
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your concept. You want to build a fantasy world where you pretend to live in the 17-18th century?
>>76449017
THIS
El salvador is not ready for democracy, neither is africa or most of the middle east. countries like this work best under 1 or few rulers. i feel no shame in admitting that whites are better at this than us.
does anybody else understand this? just like whites had kings 500 years ago, we are still in that era, most of us mestizo only respect authority, this democracy is totally new for us.
>>76448907
You'd be surprised of the amount of useless committees, councils, advisers and "experts" that don't know shit, with high-paying jobs that are currently being employed by city halls, ministries and the parliament. This is what they call, "Political debt". Like when someone supports you to be elected, then you repay them by giving them or someone of their group a high-paying job even if they lack the qualifications for it.
I'd be interested to know more about the ideas you guys propose. Unfortunately the biggest problems that patriots and salvadorans who actually love El Salvador face right now, is the lack organization.
>>76449017
I was thinking in a law that would automatically declare as "traitors" or "enemies of the state" to any public servant and military or security enforcement personal, that is found guilty of corruption. As a "traitor", by law his properties are being confiscated by the state.
But back to reality, I really doubt this law will ever get enough votes to be approved by the parliament, since they are swimming in the benefits of corruption.
About the tourism, yes, think about in the way disney sells it's product: different fantasy scenarios. In our case, we could market a pre-colonial scenario, full of mayan themed parks, restaurants, hotels, etc. Then another zone, would be colonial themed scenario, kinda like pirates of the caribbean world. Then another one would be more luxury beaches, like what Miami or Curacao have to offer, etc.
>>76440479
Bringing back the death squads is the answer.
Crush the gangs and it will be a beautiful country.
There are tons of salvadorenos here including most of my neighbors.
The majority are good people, way better than mexicans for my uninformed polacks that lump all beaners together.
Start from the bottom up like they used to, just start killing off the shitty element until you get to the top.
I don't know how bad it is now but I know the government used to be corrupt as shit but at the same time they would look the other way if a regular citizen just started offing gangbangers.
And whatever happened to MS13? I haven't heard anything this side or the other about them in a while.
Vivan los catrachos Honduras por siempre
I am pretty jealous desu El Salvador sound sos much better than Honduras, 16 in fucking Tegus that place is so bad it's not even funny
Is San Salvador bad? Can you leave your house without feeling like you'll get shot?
>>76452492
*16 years in tegus whoops
>>76440479
I went back to Sonsonate e years ago. I was surprised at the amount of things they've managed to make like more police patrols and better buildings. Still, the gangs are fucking everything up, they need to legit kill everyone that affiliates with those fuckers. My aunt had to die her hair back because they were attacking any women that had blonde hair that wasn't part of their shit show.
>>76450640
For that to work, it should be a place where parents could take their children with them, so they could learn about history and feel it. But with your reputaiton, a single google search will keep folks away.
I don't know if it exist, but if CNN's 'Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown' have an episode of El Salvador, watch it, and see what they protrait as your strong side and build on that.
It's 2:30 am here. I'm going to bed. Good night buddy.
>>76452492
Like anywhere, if you have money, you're pretty much well off for the most part.
>>76440479
proxy fag or real?
>>76451909
I think it's better to start from the top: killing leaders and recruiters, until anyone is terrified to take that position, because they'd know is a death sentence.
Check out this scene about how Bruno describes the salvadorean workers, I love it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzHTKBiy68
>>76452492
>>76452710
Currently living in San Salvador, as anon-kun said, it's pretty much as anywhere, if you have cash you won't even notice you're living in the death capital of the world.
>>76452670
Good point there! Thanks Odin! Good night!
>>76440479
Hint; Americans become much less sympathetic when you label your criminals "terrorists."
Declare your largest gangs "terrorist organizations" and offer some under-the table tax help for US corporations if they pressure Congress to accept your claim. Suddenly you can use all the waterboarding, firing squads and bombs you want.
>>76453669
What would you do if this was your kid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhJQVVAN2Ho
>>76453669
Seeing as he believes the jesuit communist meme, I'm gonna go with proxy
>>76453898
This is a great piece of advice burgerbro!
If we manage to lobby the american Congress through corporations, they'll turn a blind eye and maybe even offer military help-. I'm sure the military corporations will be happily support this as long as El Salvador purchases their equipment against our terrorist armed groups.
>>76440479
You have to go back
here for gangsters getting rekt
>>76454151
Because the jesuits, FMLN (political party formed by terrorists) and far-left groups aren't using Monseñor Romero as their symbol?
Jesuits are are portraying modern day gangmembers as "struggling youth" just in the same way they portrayed communists terrorist in the 80's
True catholics are Opus Dei, Jesuits are marxists
>>76440479
After spending 2 years in Central America I came to a realization.
The people there blame their plight mostly on the government. Nearly always, its the governments fault. I agreed at first because I had heard it repeated so much. But then I started hearing people blame things they could easily improve themselves on the government, like weeds in their field or cockroaches in the kitchen.
So eventually I realized that the problem isn't the government, or their environment, or gangs or anything else. The problem is the people. They are lazy, slovenly, unclean, nonpragmatic, indolent, lackadaisical, unimaginative, self-pitying losers waiting for Jesus and the government to fix their shit.
I don't know what it would take to fix it, if it were even possible.
>>76440479
Which is worse, Honduras or El Salvador?
>>76440479
they have internet in El Salvador?
>>76455920
They do.
>i bought tickets for a giant beaner party that used the funds to send computers back home to el salvador, couldn't go though because of work.
>>76455856
Fuck off Guatemala, you are in the same boat as Honduras-chan and me. The three of us are the somalia of america. But regarding your question, Honduras, Honduras is way worse.
>>76455920
Yes
>>76455455
I honestly can't deny this. People want gangmembers dead, but they hope someone else will do it. People want the wasting of government resources to stop, but at the same time in schools or other public institutions, you'll see tap water running freely and electricity always on 24/7 because "muhh why do you complain? Are you paying for it faggot?".
So this strong hope and confidence in the coming of a Messiah that will fix everything is a real thing, but at the same time no one wants to get involved just yet.
>>76455455
Also the brain drain: most of the best and brightest left as soon as they could and never looked back.
France should have never given Guatemala, El Salvador or Honduras independence
>>76440479
WTF an el salvador thread on /pol/?
I am ethnically salvadorean
Como vas vos? Sipote'
>tfw visiting family for a month in El Salvador
>Grandfather took me to some officers club
>his sister owns a law firm there and visiting one of her homes in the mountains
>family name is on a hillside visible from her balcony
>that immediate difference in city quality when leaving my grandfather's gated community right next to some military headquarters
>eating breakfast over the beach
>eating dinner in those twin tower looking buildings
>riding through the streets in his BMW and looking down on all the Brown scumbags
Is this what Trump feels like? I only got to live the bourgeois life for a month, but it was glorious. If I could live here in the US as a poor faggot, or go back to el Salvador and be part of the 1% again, I would choose el Salvador every single time
>>76456458
I know we are fucked in our own way but I was just asking because I have only gone to San Salvador.
So it is guatemala>el salvador>honduras, right?
1.Realize what is politically achievable as in what you can get elected in
2.Build a platform around that
3.Once you get in, do what you really wanted to
The problem with right wingers it they tend to be moral fags, we need to be more Machiavellian.
Also when you're in power, tell half truths, use plausible deniability and treat those around you with reverence so they carry out your orders.
Read 48 Laws of Power and do what you must to cleanse the criminals and Marxists, God's speed.
>>76457263
My Central American raking goes like this:
1 Costa Rica: Leftist scum, but they're fairly the only successful nearly-developed country without direct American intervention in the region, and quite patriotic as well
2 Panama: USA's lapdog, they own everything to their administration and the canal. Otherwise they'd be a nigger-tier banana republic just like Haiti
3 Guatemala: Economy is actually quite well in the capital and touristic zones. But the rest of the country, specially the road from El Salvador to Guate is quite scary. I honestly believe 75% of your security problems are directly related to being next to Mexico and El Salvador. Sorry.
4- El Salvador: If 10 years of "civil" war followed by 30 years of rampant corruption, Carter-Clinton advisors and uncontrolled crime, haven't destroyed the economy and society, this clearly shows that salvadorans are the MOST POWERFUL race in the world.
4-5 cant decide between Honduras and Nicaragua?
Nicaraguan economy is shit, but they don't have gangs. Honduras economy is a bit better, but they have plenty of gangs.
>>76457161
As my grandpa used to say, better to be the head of a mice, than the tail of a lion.
>>76458106
Great point there anon. Apart from 48 Laws of Power, what other lecture material would you recommend?
>>76459346
Mouse*
>>76458444
I would say Honduras is the worst, since its #1 in murder rates
>>76456931
your a disgrace
>>76459346
The Prince
Art Of War
33 Strategies of War
Influence
Yes!
Getting to Yes
Seeking Wisdom
You should be able to manipulate most people after reading these
>>76460716
Thank you Canada, you truly are my greatest ally
>>76462709
Best of luck, I know what subhumans the leftists are. At least we're high IQ, so it's just social degeneracy and lack of economic freedom here, your freaks give power to actual killers.
Remember the physical removal principle, leftist ideology is rooted in infringing upon individual rights, so like Pinochet, to stop them anything goes (as they violate the NAP with their very ideas of communism, socialism and anti-individualism).
Did the Dominicans destroyed Central America?
>>76464534
Jesuits and their liberation theology. They are pretty much marxists.
