1 million children die of vitamin a deficiency every year and the liberals still chimp out and won't allow a-fortified rice to be distributed because muh gmos. greenpeace literally goes in and burns down farms where they are being cultivated in the Philippines. science ok when it suits me, baaaaaad when it doesn't.
>>76320454
Nothing wrong with GMO. What do these faggots think the future of meat consumption will look like? We will have to rely on artificial protein pastes and lab-grown meat to sustain all of humanity
>>76320752
This. these dumb faggots don't realize that basically all of their current foods are GMO.
>>76321065
that's because we don't have good consumer protection and labeling laws
But if hunger is solved what will these organizations live off?
>>76321224
no thats because every animal and every plant has been selectivly breed which makes them gmos you moron
>>76320454
Nothing wrong with GMOs brah. The problem is means to produce and grow most modern GMOs are owned by the company that develops them. Seems kind of dangerous to have exclusive rights to grow a plant.
>>76321224
They shouldn't need to be labeled in the first place.
Labeling them would just turn the argument from
>If there's nothing wrong with them, then what's wrong with labeling them?
to
>If there's nothing wrong with them, then why do they have to be labeled?
If you give an inch, they will take a mile.
>>76321338
the fact that they sue the living shit out of you if you "re-sown" there plant with seeds from the harvest. they live of reselling you the seed every year
>>76320752
fpbp
libtards actually hate humans
So? some africans die?
good.
>>76320454
These fucking retards who are against GM just need to fucking leave. What do they think is going to happen, GM crops making people into zombies or something? Why would the big companies make a crop that HARMS people, once word gets out they will be sinking faster than Titanic. And why would they intentionally harm people, that is retarded. If they kill the peoppe buying their products nobody will buy their products.
And the government does not give a fuck about population control, it is only a problem in shitty countries, and look what happened when China made population control policies; the one child policy was shit and made a ton of problems.
And as for "Unintended consequences" what the fuck kind of consequnces will arise from GMO crops? Many are totally sterile and cannot breed, possibly being the work of the corporate Jew making farmers buy more seeds, but that also means that there is no chance of contamination. It is much safer than existing farming techniques of pesticide and harsh chemicals.
>>76321375
>Seems kind of dangerous to have exclusive rights to grow a plant.
The rest of the market needs to step up their game.
The big reason Monsanto keeps shutting down competitors is because they keep making organisms that only modify a couple SNPs in comparison to their products. They're different on the level of nucleotides, but codon selection results in the exact same amino acid sequence.
Honestly, this is what it really comes down to; GMOs are genuinely one of (if not THE most) ground breaking endeavors in the past several hundred years, and it's completely unreasonable to expect a market of copy right laws that have existed for a short while to adjust.
>>76321586
Pretty sure they're engineered to not leave seeds behind.
>>76321586
>they live of reselling you the seed every year
You have one of two options:
1) Allow the seeds to germinate and risk contaminating the the local wildlife
or
2) Genetically engineer the plants so that it is impossible to cross contaminate by removing reproduction all together.
It's a scenario of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Ethically speaking, sterilizing their product is a much better option than letting a GMO run rampant.
Monsanto dindu nuffin wrong.
>>76322455
you do know that the main thing were eating of those plants are their seeds?
>>76321364
>selectivly breed which makes them gmos
>creating a new genetic type of food
>breeding it
>perfectly safe compared to thousands of years of perfect rice
fucking idiots everywhere
>>76322726
He means viable seeds.
>>76322540
they didnt do nuffin wrong especially because they will be a german company soon enought
>>76321586
true
>>76320454
>1 million children die
good the world is full already
Why would anyone want an extra 1 million third worlders every year?
>>76322798
yes those seeds are viable or why do you think monsanto has sued so many farmers?
>>76320454
Because the left is AGAINST RICH/companies PEOPLE
its not about science its not about anything they just hate the bourgeois
How do you not know this yet
>>76322843
Is this just bantz, or are you actually trying to make a point of some kind?
>>76323182
partly bantz but also the fact that bayer tried to buy monsanto but was rejecet but will probably make another offer
>>76320752
>Nothing wrong with GMO.
True. However, when you add the shekelmaster's factor...
>>76323020
>do you think monsanto has sued so many farmers?
Not all of Monsantos products are completely sterilized.
But to really answer your question, most (if not all) of those farmers are guilty as hell of deliberately breeding Monsanto's stock and claiming it was an accident, as the distribution of crops was far beyond any projected threshold of what would actually be expected for accidental cross contamination.
Many of these farmers are salty over having vastly inferior products in comparison to what those atheist sciencey guys are producing. Never forget that all of them have ulterior motives for trying to take on Monsanto.
Sven gets it
>>76321960
>>76320454
This is a tough issue. I fully support GMOs because I'm not a retarded luddite. But I also support the starvation of nonwhite children to keep their population down. I don't which side to pick here.
>>76320752
Fpbp
>>76323573
>Not all of Monsantos products are completely sterilized.
Welp.
Nevermind. Looks like I'm dumb.
http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/pages/terminator-seeds.aspx
>>76320454
>caring about niggers
>>>/reddit/ you nigger lover
>>76320752
or we can just release the latest bioweapon to take out a huge chunk of humans and have fresh food
btw, it isn't monsanto that's working on the golden rice it's the government trying to save little kids and libtards still don't care.
ITT MONSANTO
>>76324382
[citation needed]
>>76324382
>Any questions?
Yeah fucking source nigger
>>76324517
>>76324557
>what is google?
>>76324382
You don't inject gmos into your brain, you stuff that has had gmos injected into their brains, silly billy
>>76324691
A search engine you fucking nigger, I asked the source.
>>76324728
Eat stuff that*
>>76324691
>Make bullshit claim
>Get called out
>"I-I'm sure the proof is there somewhere. J-just go look for it!"
Either cite your claims or fuck off.
>>76324382
>>76324691
Burden of proof you stupid faggot
It's your job to prove your retardation
>>76321663
Or 60% of them
>>76322741
Reminder that corn is man-made.
>>76324517
>>76324557
>Muh cheap dollar meals bro
KYS
>>76320454
One million children die every year from vitamin A deficiency, but 500 million children die at least once a day when I jerk off.
Really makes you hmmm
>>76320454
i wonder why you dont use a razor to cut your wrist instead of worming new tor sites for your retarded gang.
>>76322741
>food's no longer safe because it's been selectively bred!
You mean, what's been done for centuries? It's NOW unsafe?
Really makes me think.
>>76325049
>everyone who disagrees with me is a paid shill
I pity you.
>>76325080
Hm. Really make you a twink hmm..
>>76325049
thats not a source you chucklefuck
>>76325049
Is that the same article as that other post?
Are you going to provide a citation yet?
>>76325008
reminds me of that one movie with liam neeson where they try to stop this doctor from getting whacked so that he can release his GM corn to save Europe
>>76325234
>>76325260
>>76325286
haven't found a single person that has both criteria
1) is against GMO
2) actually knows wtf GMO means (and just citing what it stands for doesnt count..)
>>76320454
Laced with Morgellon Nano Robo Fibersâ„¢.
>>76325080
>>76320454
Liberals aren't concerned about the lives of others. They just pretend they are.
I hate it when they try to rile up us Christians in support of their anti-gmo crap. God wouldn't care if we fed Children good food.
What if the GMO rice is an invasive species?
What if the GMO rice is the perfect food for an invasive species of bug or animal?
Instead of 1 million children dying of vit a deficiency, you have 10 million dying of a potential transmitted disease or loss of farmland / all food sources.
GMOs are perfectly fine if done right. The problem is trying to do them right is hard and there are always unintended consequences.
The problem isn't with the concept of GMO's, but with the ethics of companies like Monsanto.
>>76325918
How misleading....QUICK WEAR A GLOVE TO MAKE IT LOOK BAD
>>76326072
He's being ironic and he'll continue spamming those images as he's googling them.
Ignore it.
>>76326072
take the blue pills if you want ;^)
we as Americans deserve to know and deserve to have a choice of what we eat. fuck the niggers in africa
>>76321364
There is a difference between selectively breeding and genetic modification you retard, they take genes from other animals and shit and inject it into the dna of other things, your retarded.
>>76324382
>muh tumors
Rats get tumors from anything because they're fucking disgusting shit tier rodents.
>>76320752
literally kill yourself, we'll never have such a big overpopulation problem
>>76320454
If they do not die, they will have children, the cycle repeats. Feeding is never a solution, it only worsens the situation.
If you cannot afford children, do not have them, it is simple as that.
We do not need worthless niggers.
>>76320454
why can't we just send them billions of carrot sticks?
>>76320454
Depends how it is actually spliced etc. In general I'm against GMO's, but Golden Rice is one of the few exceptions.
Saying GMO is bad is like saying an axe is bad cause it can be used to chop heads off
Or saying cars are bad cause they can be used to run people over
Or saying buildings are bad cause they can collapse on top of people
>>76326510
>>>/b/
>>76320454
I have a problem with GMO shit but not because I think the actual genetically modified crop has something wrong with it. It's the bullshit the corporations that make them pull with copyrighted genetics and suing the shit out of farmers for growing a certain strain of crop.
Yet another thing to add to The-List-Of-Things-I-Have-A-Problem-With-That-I-Need-To-Carefully-Explain-Why-To-Reactionary-Retards. Like how I have to explain why I think the Global Warming thing is complete bullshit but that we should still strive for sustainable low carbon emission energy production and transportation.
>>76320454
Liberals also hate it when you bring up IQs by race, and they'll go on and on how niggers have giant cocks and can slam dunk on you.
They'll also bitch about how "science proves factories cause g̶l̶o̶b̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶o̶o̶l̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶g̶l̶o̶b̶a̶l̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶m̶i̶n̶g̶, the weather being different, and then they'll act like chopping off your cock gives you two X chromosomes and makes you "a woman".
The last thing white civilization should be doing is helping third world populations to grow in size.
>>76322741
>fucking idiots everywhere
you got that right *looks directly at you*
>>76325784
This.
>>76320454
the GMO issue aside, "golden rice" will NOT adequately address the issue it is touted as solving....
Vitamin A - REAL Vitamin A - is strictly from animal products, and not plant products. the reason Beta-carotine is laughably referred to as "Vitamin A" is because it can (sometimes) be used by the body as a precursor to create REAL Vitamin A in-vivo - but, to do this absolutely necessitates other co-factors, such as adequate zinc intake - and these would likely be lacking in any individuals who are already ostensibly malnourished. even with all the essential co-factors present, a considerable percentage of people are unable to synthesize Vitamin A.
TL;DR it's just Big Agro lying to you in order to justify their existence and the introduction of patent-able "food stuffs," with the typical complete lack of regard for safety.
not a liberal here - i'm an arch-conservative and right of Ghengis Khan, and i happen to know a bit about nutrition.
>>76326691
what's wrong with natural food?
you haven't given a valid reason why GMOs are good besides niggers starving in africa
>>76320454
gmos keep our crops alive stop wining about things you dont understand
>>76320454
I bet you idiots are afraid of GMOs for the wrong reason. What you should be concerned about is them adding genes that code for toxins, or turning existing genes into ones that produce dangerous products. Toxic food can be vetted at the experimental stage. What retards probably think is that by somehow eating GMOs, the genetically modified DNA is going to be incorporated into them and they'll grow three arms. What they forget, or probably don't even know, is that DNA is broken down into nucleotides or smaller before it is absorbed by the body.
>>76327166
I bet these idiots, I mean. My bad, typo.
https://hacked.com/monsanto-hire-internet-trolls/
>>76325918
reminder that corn is actually supposed to be purple
>>76327166
righ right...
so its a gr8 invention as long as the jews dont get a hold of it
>>76326948
Cause we can make better crops?
>>76327078
oh well you've convinced me
>>76327405
what's wrong with our non-gmo crops?
>>76326453
If you eata gmo fruit and it contains no poisonous chemicals its safe to eat.
Its all about what substances a fruit or vegtable contain..
Who cares if its GMO or not, that is beside the point, what matters is what chemicals they have inside and they are obviously tested to make sure they are safe to eat.
GMO products dont contain magic or fairydust that is gonna do unpredictable things to you..
Damn you people are dumb as a brick.
>>76327880
>GMO are perfectly safe goyim
>>76320454
Organic Farmer here
The problem with GMOs is that heirloom seeds aka the genetic diversity of vegetables is VERY prone to being wiped out entirely if vegetable bight is able to mutate to these GMO modified vegetables, all the other varieties of corn beets apples etc would stand no chance against the new diseases. Plus, as more and more of these GMO crops are planted, they crosspollinate with all other varieties, effectively BLACKEDing their rare genetic code
Also, who gives a fuck if sandniggers die? Im happy liberalism is at least taking out a million shitskins annually. A million less for our grandchildren to fight
>>76324382
Do you even know what LD50 tests are? When someone says "a test showed that blahblahblah in sunscreen can kill rats" what they're actually saying is "scientists injected rats with increasing quantities of that substance until they died. The amount was 5000x what is in sunscreen, so now we know."
A GMO is a plant that has had it's genes swapped, like if there's a gene that makes the rind of a watermelon greener that was originally in a different plant. But nothing new is being created, it's just taking snippets of genetic code and putting them in different plants, or taking beneficial samples from many versions of the same plant to create a line with the benefits of all of them.
Cancer has a very specific mechanism by which it arises, and eating a watermelon with pumpkin genes is not it. By the time you digest it, it's all just proteins and sugars anyway. If we were genetically modifying our own cells, cancer might be a risk (as cancer is basically just damaged cells that have no limit on reproduction), but consuming plants with genetic anomalies is not the same thing at all.
The whole "let's not eat things that had pesticides" thing I kind of understand, although it misses the economics of food production, but the anti-GMO stuff is outright nonsense.
>>76327505
Where is your evidence that GMOs have ANY sort of adverse health effects?
I'll wait
>>76325561
A guy with a decorated background in agriculture taking several prominent jobs dealing with agriculture? Say it ain't so, boss, say it ain't so.
>>76328408
Regressives don't need evidence fagget
>>76321963
>GM crops making people into zombies or something
They quite literally can. Genetically modified crops need to be researched very carefully before being approved. Every gene translates into a protein, and you introduce completely foreign ones into existing crops. Now imagine someone brings along with others a gene that translates into a protein, that can cause mad cow disease if it doesn't fold right. It may fold wrong just because it's produced in completely different conditions.
And then 8 years later after the crop gets approved you get an unexplained surge in incurable disease that melts your brain and is universally fatal. That's not to mention possible allergies, that a consumer wouldn't expect to have.
But that's not even the greatest problem. The main problem you have with GMO is that they are made to be resistant to chemicals, that kill everything else, and are typically used along with them. This chemicals can also hurt humans. GMOs also can become an ecological disaster.
This shit needs very careful inspection before being approved.
>why would they intentionally harm people
>why would anyone give me pox contaminated blanket, that's insane
>why would people test shit on foreigners, there are mice for that
>>76320454
>Greenpeace wants to ban GMOs
>Earth's carrying capacity already oversaturated
>Niggers keep having babies
>Food prices on a long term slow increase since the early 2000s
>UN says we need to eat insects by 2050 if overpopulation is to continue
It's gonna be a fun ride
>>76321375
There's no incentive to produce new cultivars if they aren't able to have any kind of control over what they produce. The current system is shit but it works well enough for the corporations that do the heavy lifting. Something like 95% of plant breeding in corn is private sector.
>>76323573
The farmers understand what they're getting into when they purchase the seed from Monsanto. There are numerous reasons why Monsanto wouldn't want farmers breeding from Monsanto seed and there are also reasons why the farmers wouldn't want to. It's really expensive to produce GM seed and Monsanto sure as fuck doesn't want to waste their money. Monsanto also has an interest in making sure that the transgenes in their cultivars don't escape to non-GM varieties. There's also the fact that nearly all field corn is from hybrids, so the plants won't breed true. Most farmers don't usually save seed anyway, because there's no point when the commercial seed market has so much available. Also, again, hybrid corn won't breed true.
>>76325049
>I can't argue on the internet, so I'll blame the trolls
>>76326772
IP laws are somewhat broken and the corporations take advantage of this. There have been some steps in the right direction, but the current political climate around GMOs is so politicized it's retarded.
>>76327849
In theory, GM crops can produce varieties with unique traits that would take many times longer to do with traditional breeding. Bt corn is an example of this. It's not as though the Bt protein would spontaneously appear in maize, but a functionally similar allele might have been found eventually.
>>76328400
what's wrong with our non-gmo crops?
>>76328408
do your own research if you really care but you don't
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=monsanto+adverse+health+effects&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT_LrpwJTNAhVSLVIKHeG5Bu8QgQMIGzAA
>>76328538
what's wrong with our non-gmo crops?
>>76324109
Edgy.
>>76328400
The antiGMO stuff has more to do with crosspollination and preservation of ancient varieties of seed. You may say, but the svalbard seed vault has all the seeds already! And to that, I say it really doesnt matter that the seed vault exists if none of the real plants are actually growing on this earth.BTW Soil erosion is GOING to destroy our civilization, if warfare or shitskins dont. Say we need to crack open the seed vault in 100 years, the soil erosion will have gotten so bad the Mycellium, the bacteria which actually transfers Carbon and Nitrogen to plants (what actually puts pesticides/soil amendments into the plant) will have almost certainly disappeared in all currently used farmland. Every time you till soil you break apart this fungal organism, Mycellium. Nearly ALL conventionally grown foods use tilling and pesticides, replacing what natural processes do for plants in forests: giant redwoods are stories tall yet need no pesticides in the forest, why do your kiwis and strawberries need them?
>>76328768
what's wrong with our non-gmo crops?
you really think it's about providing nutrients, that monsanto will be the savior of humanity?
>>76328408
That's the fun part. Evildence is any other product in the hands of the wild wild market world.
>If GMO were bad, we could simply make them better with science!
But then, if the goal was not making them better but making them profitable...
That's what you dumb goyim don't get. It is never about you or about erradicating hunger so those poor little starving children in Somalia can grow up and go to Sweden.
It's about putting something as dangerous as global food production in the hands of megacorps, and now that we're heading to a cyberpunk dystopia without the bionic nintendo power-glove arm-cannons and the fancy clothes I can assure you this shit is the LAST thing you want to happen.
>GMO is bad
No.
>It's bad in the wrong hands.
Yes. And you can bet it's in the wrong fucking hands.
>>76328953
Thanks ;^)
>>76326773
Holy shit I knew niggers were stupid but I never realized it was that bad.
The cutoff for being legally considered a tard is 80 isn't it?
>>76329169
>>76320454 (OP)
Organic Farmer here
The problem with GMOs is that heirloom seeds aka the genetic diversity of vegetables is VERY prone to being wiped out entirely if vegetable bight is able to mutate to these GMO modified vegetables, all the other varieties of corn beets apples etc would stand no chance against the new diseases. Plus, as more and more of these GMO crops are planted, they crosspollinate with all other varieties, effectively BLACKEDing their rare genetic code
Also, who gives a fuck if sandniggers die? Im happy liberalism is at least taking out a million shitskins annually. A million less for our grandchildren to fight
>>76329328
Also this.
>>76327849
Well, for one, they don't always survive. Nature has quite a few competitors to each of them, and quite a few other things that specifically prey on them. Famines used to be a really major problem, because locusts or beetles or fungus would come along and wipe out everything. The original eating banana is basically extinct because there is a fungus that has spread so thoroughly that there's really nowhere left it can successfully grow.
Additionally, despite how it feels for most of us, a lot of the world doesn't have enough food. There are major efficiency questions that have to be answered when it comes to setting up a field in the small patch of arable land a village might have. At the same time, as farming becomes less viable in the US, they need to produce greater yields with less space to keep costs down. Crop size and resistance to disease and infestation were the original reason people started modifying crops genetically. We had been breeding them for the same purpose for millenia, but there are limits to what that can do. Using the banana as an example again: the banana that we eat is sterile because the only ones we can eat are the ones where the seeds don't form correctly. But since we've been doing that for 5000 years, the banana hasn't evolved at all. We can't breed for disease resistance because the banana isn't bred, it's grafted. But genetic modification gives us the potential to fix some of those problems, preventing us from losing bananas altogether.
Some of the GMO stuff is economic, to make them look better (although not nearly enough is done for taste. There's a fascinating discussion with one of the guys from Chef's Table about that) or to make them commercially appealing in some other way, redder strawberries, etc. But most of it is to improve their viability as food into the future.
In short, to answer your question. What's wrong with our non-GMO crops? Quite a bit.
>1 million children die every year
good. Overpopulation is a big problem
>>76325784
They just change a couple genes that make a few proteins. How is that going to dramatically change the environtment? It's still fucking rice just with beta carotine
>>76329530
Organic Farmer here
The problem with GMOs is that heirloom seeds aka the genetic diversity of vegetables is VERY prone to being wiped out entirely if vegetable bight is able to mutate to these GMO modified vegetables, all the other varieties of corn beets apples etc would stand no chance against the new diseases. Plus, as more and more of these GMO crops are planted, they crosspollinate with all other varieties, effectively BLACKEDing their rare genetic code
Also, who gives a fuck if sandniggers die? Im happy liberalism is at least taking out a million shitskins annually. A million less for our grandchildren to fight
>>76320752
>liberals throw around the word progress
>working hard to stop GMOs to end world hunger
>>76320454
Good, the world has too many people
>>76329111
Well, the breeding out of natural varieties is the real reason they make most GMO crops sterile, so they don't escape into the wild. We have lost a lot of ancient plants and we're losing a lot more, and that's a serious problem. But from where I'm sitting, it looks more like an issue of city expansion into areas where those crops grew natively, etc.
As for pesticides, I'm not an expert on any particular plant, but many fruits and vegetables are very vulnerable to specific fungi or insects or bacteria that are hard to control for otherwise. If you didn't use any pesticide on a 100 acre plot of corn, you'd still have corn left obviously, but not anywhere near 100% of it. Something gets into the field and it could eat up 40-50% of it in a matter of days. Pesticides aren't used because crops can't grow without them, but rather to keep them commercially viable.
>>76329776
So increasing the nutritional value of a plant has no chance of altering the way or the amount of animals that it eat that could be potentially harmful for the environment?
We have learned that if you introduce something new to an ecosystem, it can completely destroy it.
>>76329907
hey look it's a nigger lover who cares about starving niggers in africa
>>76326550
Listen to the leaf, guys.
He knows.
The Muslims they're gonna bring into Canada will wage Jihad on North America and greatly reduce it's population.
Just like Germany & Sweden brought Sandindus over here to kill us all!
>>76329213
I think it is. I think in court you're "too incompetent" if youre 60 or below. 80 or so means youre just stupid.
>>76329883
this, it's not eating the GMO itself that is dangerous, it's what happens to the species and the species it "contaminates".
>>76321960
JUST
>>76320454
if you really are right, fuck you dumbass where do you think these millions of refugees are coming from. if you can't see the big picture you are still a shitlib
stupidass western countries giving infinite food and medicine to people who are impressed with glass bottles and are scared every-time the sun goes down.
>>76330035
The US population reached 200 million in early 60s and is now 340M with 40% of them being nonwhite. You yourself just said 65% of the crop survives. Also, youre assuming again that the only way to do commercial agriculture is with pesticides and monoculture, rows of onions for square miles. You tell me where in the fuck youll find miles and miles of onions or carrots in nature. This sort of farming isnt just magically okay because its the one we have and farmers know what theyre doing, because believe me there is NO industry full of inefficency and misinformation more than Agriculture. Supporting the 40% of shitskins in this country IS NOT WORTH irreparable destruction to this nation's topsoil, which IS NOT REGENERATIVE. Once you kill the mycellium hardpan sets in and the soil is just fuckin shot. I worked in conventional ag for 8 years and quit to Organic because the industrialization of the American food supply has become the GOVERNMENT CENTRALIZATION of the food supply YOU depend on to physicially continue existing.
>>76330342
>North America and greatly reduce it's population.
wow. reduce the population by what... maybe 200 million?
Mean while the shit states of the middle east, africa, china and panjeep land have billions. We (NA) are a drop in the bucket.
>>76320752
This, nothing wrong with GMO's in themselves.
I do think a lot of pesticides and shit absolutely fucks with our foods and our health though. I wish they would sell more produce and meat that was genetically engineered to have better nutrition properties, but was smothered in pesticides to reduce margins of ruined produce or fed harmful chemicals.
Right now you either buy chemical ridden bullshit, or extremely overpriced hippy bullshit; there's no good middle ground.
>>76320454
I see you saw Gavin's show today as well
That dude was awesome but there were parts that I had NO fucking clue what he was talking about
Also fuck (((green peace))). I knew they were bad but holy shit
>>76322741
Wow
Brb gonna have to think about that
>>76320454
Gmo food changes your gnome.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/01/09/confirmed-dna-from-genetically-modified-crops-can-be-transfered-to-humans-who-eat-them-2/
>>76320454
>starving chinks
Fantastic.
>>76323692
>>76321960
Woah, dat graph.
So what happens when the food aid dries up?
>>76330035
BTW diatomacious earth is an Organic PHYSICAL pesticide, not chemical that could be used in conventional ag. They could switch to no-till, but instead they not only use pesticides and herbacides, but CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS to replace the carbon and nitrogen cycles they RAPE the soil and make it impossible to "work" in the naturally occuring carbon and nitrogen cycles which brought the vegetables into existence in the first place.
>>76330729
>nothing wrong with GMO's
>>76330729
Misconception that you cant eat 100% organic on a budget. Huge heads of organic lettuce and kale are 2 dollars each at whole foods. You can get organic grass fed beef there for 4 dollars a pound. It isnt unreasonable, im able to do it for myself from grocery stores when i travel for less than $100 dollars a month.
>yes eat the glyphosate goyim, never mind that it doesnt break down or that it chelates all metal it comes in contact with, thats fine, you dont need metals in your body or food.
I think I will stick to growing my own food on land that glyphosate hasnt been used.
>>76320454
There is no food problem, just a distribution problem. If these countries are going to allow themselves to be run by warlords and corrupt governments they can starve.
>muh second amendment
THE GOYIM KNOW SLIDE THE THREAD
>>76321375
>Seems kind of dangerous to have exclusive rights to grow a plant.
... but they don't. There are a hundred different vendors you can buy seed from. Monsanto owns the rights to their product, with their genetic modifications, and nothing more.
Do you know why farmers keep buying Monsanto product year after year after year? Profits, thanks to higher yields. Feeding every fucker on the planet is hard work.
Don't believe anything the Jew's say.
>>76325784
invasive species are already everywhere. from plants killing fish in lakes to lion fish eatting all reef fish everywhere. invasive pest, plants, animals its hard to find a situation not already in existence.
generally speaking though crops are bread toward production which rarely produces and invasion. oh god I can't get rid of all these orange trees has never happened. Look where are use to have grass now all I have are giant ears of corn and watermelon. Its just not going to happen.
>>76328725
> GMO is that they are made to be resistant to >chemicals, that kill everything else, and are >typically used along with them. This chemicals >can also hurt humans.
this is the actually the real danger. all those stupid post above. RoundUp literally kills everything. Spray it on your grass and your neighbors grass might die. Spray it on a gmo and its fine. The reason they do this is so they can spray and whole field to kill the weeds. And normally if you spray a product and wait to harvest the chemical levels are usually safe but they could spray the roundup and harvest the next day and your in for real trouble.
>>76330673
I'm not saying the argument of "fuck the shitskins, less quantity better quality" is wrong necessarily, but I'm arguing why they do what they do. The official position of a major Ag corporation and the FDA is never going to be "Who cares if brown people starve, we're preserving the soil." Wrong or right, their position is going to remain in making lots of cheap, efficient food. GMO's are part of that, though definitely not the whole thing.
>>76320454
look, son, i live in a small city the middle of a plain that used to be a fertile forest 2 centuries ago, then, after the arriving of foreign settlers, it become a diverse agricultural landscape.
now is a green desert, with dust storms pretty similar as you've seen in the movie interstellar and close to no living animals in the small patchs of woods remaining where i used to hunt or fish in the river where i used to fish not 20 years ago.
in my hunting trips i used to find people living of the land, small farms and small towns with their rural schools and a colorful cultural life.
the problem? GMO corn and soy bean.
not the seed itself, of course, but GMOs are designed to resist an amount of herbicides that not any other kind of life can, including humans.
there's a very well documented increase on cases of cancer, skin and lung deseases in the small towns that still remain nestled in the plains, a lot of them amongst rural workers and their families. I've seen it all, no one had to "redpill" me.
resistance from local doctors, local universities and eco farmers are constantly denied or hidden by big media, even when there are hundreds of lawsuit against Monsanto, air dusters and unscrupulous land owners. the two most powerful newspapers and media companies in the country are publicly partners in the most enormous agricultural fair of Latam.
monsanto keeps buying the main universities labs and scientists trough funding and scholarships, and you can see them changing their position from anti to pro GMOs in the flip of a dolar bill.
meanwhile, land is more and more concentrated in the hands of big agrobusiness, and people still starve in the middle of one of the most fertile countries in the world.
so, you can rant and debate for years about if GMO food is bad or good in itself, but the real consequences are here, and they not depend on the DNA of a seed but on the use we humans make with them.
one more thing while i'm ranting with poor grammar. although they can make nonviable seeds. generally speaking they do not do this. the seeds are viable and if you dont buy more seeds they come back and test.
but the biggest reason in favor of their use is so people dont starve. I think the biggest downside is eating pesticides. every other argument seems pretty fringe to me. there is some benefit to individuals for preserving heirloom seeds but even today there are what was once common seeds that are hard to find.
>>76334765
people would have been syarving in the 1970s if not for GMO crops. especially india and china. not that regular crops werent alright, they just werent the rabid soil-raping weed-resisting monsters we have now.
>>76320454
Good goy ,
eat your monsanto hebrew crops,
be sure to pay the merchant,
stupid burger
in a few years you'l be sterile and impotent
>>76320454
>1 million children die of vitamin a deficiency every year and the liberals still chimp out and won't allow a-fortified rice to be distributed because muh gmos.
Oh yeah I totally want MORE people on earth.
>>76325195
Theirs a difference between spending 1000 years slowly picking out the best crops to plant, and shooting it with genomes until you get a new plant, we might lose something that helps the plants survive outside of human interaction.
>>76326733
Holy shit! It's a tomacco.
>>76336700
you know you can switch the genome back to what it used to be right. none of it it permanent.
http://www.rapaluruguay.org/transgenicos/Maiz/Genetically_Maize.pdf
>>76320454
>science ok when it suits me, baaaaaad when it doesn't
sure, provide an actual independant long term study on GMO's then you'll have more acceptance, until then, go fuck yourself with your preaching
>>76321364
do you even know what the fuck GMO stands for you fucking imbecile?
>>76337013
Those are some thick fucking pancakes.
