So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
Its about fucking time we had a serious discussion about Islam, and how blown out of porpotion the idea of a "Muslim threat" is. You need to understand that the bible is equally violent, with Jesus himself damming people to hell and promising nothing but eternal torture while a select few (the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven.
I am going to start off with the first two biggest misconceptions about Islam. Since your all "red pilled", i trust that you will absorb these unbiased and non - skewed facts like the proper consequential bastions of truth you basement dwellers claim you are.
Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases (source: http://odintext.com/blog/text-analysis-quran-bible-3of3/) so biblethumpers (and even athiests who hate the Quran citing it as a backwards book) BTFO.
Fact #2: Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion by the meida and Donald Trump who make a living based off fear and sell products based off what are essentially lies. For over 90% of all terrorist attacks commited worldwide are commited by NON MUSLIMS. With Jews and right wing extremists far outnumbering Muslim extremists) according to http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619 . Do keep in mind this article also cited that Islamic terrorism accounted for less than 1% of all attacks in Europe.
Third, moves such as including arabic as a OPTIONAL course in French high schools is there to build bridges to the high amount of arabic speakers in France. This is not for the sake of "PC" pandering but a rational, logical chioce to help maximize the potential of Arabic speaking people who cannot get a job otherwise.
>>76234200
>smallest number of violent words and/or phrases
Do you how fucking long is the Bible? It's obvious it contains more violence. It's longer
> Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion
Tell the french, the belgians, the nigerians, the iraqis, the syrians, the english, the spanish, the tunisians, the lybians, the koln girls, malmo swedes, the swedes, the serbians, the greeks, the turks, the philippians ecc ecc ecc ecc
They will punch you int he face.
>less than 1% of all attacks in Europe
what
>p maximize the potential of Arabic speaking people who cannot get a job otherwise
what potential? look at pic related, literacy rates in the world. lol. half of the muz scum can't even write in arabic.
>>76234200
>NO FUCKING MEMES
Uh huh.
>SandNigger
>>76234200
>>76234200
Please leave quietly.
>>blown out of proportion
>>blown
>>76234200
>The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases
That's not how that works, retard.
>>76234858
>Half of them cant read or write
Well Italy, if your school was being bombed by Zoionists and Americans, i highly doubt you would be very literate either.
>tell the french
Tell the Europeans that there have been very few terrorist attacks by Muslims in relation to other groups. At least your oppression (despite being horrible) is doing something i suppose.
>>76236106
That is how it works, but i wouldn't expect much understanding on Islamic theology coming from a homogeneous, irrelevant nation in northern Europe.
>>76234200
>Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths,
You deliberately forget the Hadiths which can't be ignored by Muslims.
>Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion
>Fact #2
>>76236116
>serious discussion
what the hell leaf. I knew this wouldn't be a serious discussion. You're deluded. Dumb cucknada.
>other groups
what the hell are you talking about. what group. I live in fuckin Europe. There are no other groups. Stop believing this propaganda. The only threat to our communities is islamic terrorism. Get over it. You can't deny shit.
>>76235689
>90.8% of all violent events
>source itself refers to "terrorist attacks"
>doesn't state the proportion of violent jihadists compared to not crazy muslims
What a shit graph. >>76235889 has questionable content but it's far superior.
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>>76234200
OP is cucked, probably Trudeau himself.
>>76234200
>So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
Fuck off back to Red dit, faggot
>>76234200
The bible isn't meant to be taken literally, the Koran is.
>not including the Hadiths
>books describing the every action of the "perfect muslim"
>which include torture, rape and warmongering
>BTFO
>non-biased
>the biggest threat of the islam is terrorism
Look at iran before and after the islamic revolution and say that again
>Do keep in mind this article also cited that Islamic terrorism accounted for less than 1% of all attacks in Europe.
Post your fucking proofs you idiot
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619
>in america
Yeah fuck you look at countries with higher percentage of muslims. How can you be so fucking retarded?
>>76236226
No, it really isn't. The Bible is a collection of stories which meaning is to shun violence and uses the stories as an example as to why you shouldn't be doing it.
That's just one example of why you're incredibly wrong, but hey, I wouldn't expect much understanding on Christian theology coming from a multicultural, irrelevant nation in Northern America.
>>76234200
>>76236393
But it's not their terrorist attacks, or that they're racist and violent that's the worst. It's that they refuse to integrate in our societies.
In 2006 62% of the Danish Muslims thought the Qu’ran instructions must be followed fully. That figure has grown to 77% in 2015.
>"It seems that Danish Muslims have become more religious in all dimensions, both in terms of faith and practice. Generally, we would expect that the opposite would happen, and that they would eventually come to resemble the rest of the Danes, who are not particularly religious activity, "he says to Jyllands-Posten.
http://www.b.dk/nationalt/danske-muslimer-bliver-mere-troende
Alright man, no fucking memes.
Islam is a political system as well as a religion, which automatically makes it incompatible with western political systems since it can't assimilate or exist alongside western society, it needs to replace it in order to continue existing.
In addition, Islam breeds a culture that is completely at odds with western culture. A woman can walk around in the evening wearing a skirt in the west and not be bothered by other westerners, but in an Islamic society, she's be harassed, attacked, raped or worse and not many people would see anything wrong with that. A man can order bacon on his burger and the vegetarian behind the counter will serve it to him. In an Islamic culture, well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWMwV2rETJA
This wasn't even in a Muslim country, this happened in Australia.
>>76236226
Most of the violence in the Bible is in the Old Testament. Any Christian is instructed to live their life in accordance to the New Testament. The Old Testament is a collection of books showing prophecy leading up to Jesus (New Testament).
>>76236566
Djokovic?
>>76234200
>72 virgins have been deposited into your PayPal account
While not all muslims are currently terrorists, every muslim is a potential terrorist and terrorist supporter.
>>76234200
The Quran and Hadith are the only texts of Abrahamic religions that literally and clearly instruct it's flowers to be violent.
All the violence in the old testament is just God going apeshit on his own, and the New Testament were the Jews raping Jesus, or stories of 'bad people' doing bad shit.
>>76234200
>about Islam NO FUCKING MEMES
>the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven.
Nice meme, ahmed. No one is forcing you to accept Jesus. If you are going to hell, it is your own fault.
Wahhabism and Salafism are fundamentalist interpretations of Islam and a major source of violence around the globe
Wahhabis are concentrated in wealthy ME countries like Saudi Arabia, they have a lot of money which they use to fund jihadis and foment insurrection in unstable regions
If the 1 billion+ muslims could acknowledge and address the problem of salafism, that would be nice, but it seems most muslims are more intent on deferring blame and providing patronizing #NotAllMuslims bullshit instead of addressing the bright glaring problem in their own community
It certainly doesn't help that Wahhabis control Mecca and therefore have a stranglehold on Islam
>>76236717
Please don't provide youtube videos, stupid OP will attack you for it and 'invalidate' your argument because of poor sources.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
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>>76234200
EVERYTHING I needed to know about ISLAM I learned in May 1876
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batak_massacre
>>76237049
>Fundamentalists
I think you mean GOOD Muslims. They read the Quran, the Haddid.
There isn't a fundamentalist problem, their is an Islam problem. For as long as their is Islam there will inevitably good Muslims.
I also fucking hate people who are terrible at things, and that include bad Muslims. So a Muslim good or bad is a not a desirable thing to have in this world.
>>76234200
>no memes
>You need to understand that the bible is equally violent
Well that didn't last long
>>76237140
#1 The koran has more violent words per word and is therefore a more violent book. But who cares?
#2 terrorism isn't the only issue (though proportionally Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism in the west). Muslims are stupid, and come from violent and poor places. Why would we want to make our population more violent, more poor, worse education.
Muhammed is a child diddler and a warlord
>>76236717
>it needs to replace it in order to continue existing
Islam is not an invasive species anon. It does not need to replace anything. The truth is that (this is coming from a Serb living in Canada btw) Islam can and has coexisted for hundreds of years and had its own golden age that is responsible for much of Europe's progress during the renascence. It was Islamic trade with the venetians and Byzatines that brought the barbaric westerners out of darkness.
Also, if Islam is so terrible then why is it flourishing among many muslim diaspora communities today? A recent study conducted in Canada actually concluded that Muslim communities are allies in the fight against extremism, and depriving them of accommodations (thus marginalizing them) will not help our fight:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/radicalization-rcmp-terrorism-csis-muslim-violence-1.3613341
no memes but this is a a whole song how i feel many songs about this topic.
enjoy redpill
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/take-back-our-cities
>>76234200
>So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
How much do you get paid to post and monitor this shithole and why does your employer feel the need to waste time and resources here?
>>76237238
What's it like being 140?
>The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases (source: http://odintext.com/blog/text-analysis-quran-bible-3of3/) so biblethumpers (and even athiests who hate the Quran citing it as a backwards book) BTFO.
Final word of God, no reformations or sub-sects like Christianity
Fuck off shill
>>76237450
Please log in, Mr. Trudeau.
>>76236116
>Tell the Europeans that there have been very few terrorist attacks by Muslims in relation to other groups. At least your oppression (despite being horrible) is doing something i suppose.
What the hell are you talking about?
The only other terrorist groups in Europe are IRA (which I haven't heard from in ages), the Basque separatists (the same applies) and... well that's pretty much it.
We used to have the Brigate Rosse here in Italy, which were communist terrorists who killed a few hundred people back in the 80s.
Every single terrorist attack in the last 15 years has been at the hands of muslims.
Stop believing the kike's propaganda.
>>76237558
He is at least 150, babies don't remember shit.
>>76234200
all muslims are supposed to follow the example of Muhammad's life.
Muhammad was extremely violent and spent the entire latter part of his life slaughtering Jews, Pagans and Christians in his jihad against the kafir in order to spread Islam.
that's all that really matters about Islam.
The Qu'ran says to follow the example of Muhammad. that he is the perfect model of conduct. so all you need to know in order to know Islam, is Muhammad.
>>76234200
I almost took this post seriously but then I noticed the flag.
>>76237724
What about the ultra christian Mafia and their terrorism too Italy? Or are you not allowed to talk about them?
>>76234200
>serious discussion
>leaf shitposting
Pick one
>>76237450
I'll proceed with an accurate debate. I hope OP won't insult me because I'm Italian, again.
>Islamic trade with the venetians and Byzatines that brought the barbaric westerners out of darkness.
OP doesn't know about history. The Renaissance started when Greek and Byzantine professors started to flee the East because of Muslim rule, and spread their teachings in Italy. The Venetians lost their power during the late middle ages because Arabs cut off trade routes. I know this because guess what I'm Italian, not some stupid Serb immigrant far away from here. This my history. Cuck.
>study conducted in Canada
Here comes the 'study' things. I want peer reviewed things. Not political studies.
>>76234200
>For over 90% of all terrorist attacks commited worldwide are commited by NON MUSLIMS
It says "in America" right in your link, faggot.
>>76237910
As long as they kill your filthy goatfucking minions, they can be considered as saints.
>>76237865
What the hell is that video suppose to mean?
>>76237910
They aren't terrorists. They're defending their country and way of life from invaders.
>>76234200
Try harder next time.
Your post reeks of rotten low quality bait.
But I appreciate the effort; it's still better than a trap thread.
>>76238024
I'm sure you know
>>76238104
No Bait here anon. I love how you immediately shoo something away as "bait" just because you disagree with it. How intellectual of you.
>>76238149
No I dont. What is this horseshit? I really wish there was a "flag" button sometimes. So this pointless and unrelated porn can BTFO.
>>76237779
And since abrogation instructs Muslims to favor the latter passages over the earlier passages when a scriptural conflict exists, the early passages promoting peaceful action against kafir are made irrelevant by those latter passages which encourage the slaughter of kafir.
>>76237953
>The Venetians lost their power during the late middle ages because Arabs cut off trade routes.
This is true. People think the Germanic tribes caused the dark ages when they brought down Rome but the truth is that the first thing they did was settle in and attempt to emulate the Roman system. They didn't want to DESTROY Rome, they wanted to take it for themselves.
However, this was followed shortly by the rise of Islam, which resulted in Muslim pirates essentially cutting all trade off from Europe in the Mediterranean and also assaulted the southern coast of Europe with constant raids, pillaging the thriving communities along the Med. coast and taking millions of slaves.
This is one of the reasons why Europeans fled en masse to live near fortifications (castles), and why the middle ages were so hard for Europe.
>>76237953
>I want peer reviewed
Studies from unbaised sources (see links in OP) do just as good of a job anon. By that logic all "studies" cited by the users ITT about Islam are equally bullshit because they are not "peer reviewed".
>OP doesn't know history
Think again Lorenzo, where do you think all those Byzatine scholars got their scribes from?
>>76234200
Talking about Islamic terrorism is a dodge; there's enough to object to in "moderate Islam."
In the US, we are not allowed to criticize Israel or talk about the Jews using team plays they learned in the Semitic tribalist world here in the Western individualist world. The major coherent reason given for this is because talking about Jews might lead to violence.
Muslims are exempt from this, and when they aren't talking a out Jews, they're whining about the culture they chose to live in, and supporting ISIS in surveys. How can I not resent that?
>>76237450
>Islam is not an invasive species anon.
I know hindu people who would punch you in the face for saying such bullshit.
>>76237910
What?
The Mafia aren't terrorists you dipshit.
They're criminals, they only kill people who threaten their interests.
>>76234200
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
>>76238479
that's exactly right.
Muhammad was peaceful in Mecca when he was only just a shitty street preacher with little more than 150 followers (that took him 13 years to accomplish, lol)
Then he fled to Medina, where he started his political campaign and began chopping off the heads of people who refused to follow him... and shortly thereafter the entire Arab world was Islamic, displacing countless Jews, Pagans and Christians who used to live in the middle east.
most of North Africa and Asia Minor used to be Christian, and very much in the tradition of the classical Greeks and Romans.
ahh what a world it would be without Islam.
>>76234200
>Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths
>muhamad
>raped a 9y old
>enslaved people
>lied and made up prophecies countless times
>murdered people
>contradicted himself
>Christ
>based
Come on fella, we all know muslims are nothing but a bunch of dickheads following a retarded false-prophet, you're wasting way too much time acting like you're actually something else.
>>76238281
No, its becauer this has been debunked many many times and shills just repeat the same nonsense
>>76236116
>Well Italy, if your school was being bombed by Zoionists and Americans, i highly doubt you would be very literate either.
HOLY FUCK. END THIS MEME
Muslims have been cave-dwelling goat-fuckers who violently interact with any other civilization long before the west was fucking sick and tired and starting bombing you sandniggers. Islamic civilization has been militant and retarded for much of its history
OP is a dumbfuck who has no idea what he is talking about.
SAGE
>>76237505
holy shit Dala Laima is based
>>76237910
Let's wait a moment to consider this, this fucking idiotic leaf doesn't has the fucking mental ability to differentiate between organized crime and terrorists.
>>76238743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2PGruX-XsQ French
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOaPwxGx9cw German
>>76236226
>counting angry words
>understanding islamic theology
>>76234200
>So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months.
fake and gay leaf op
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism
I dont know any religion that make a effort to fuck up the world as much as islam.
>>76234200
Wow really makes you thing now I really love mudslimes and want them all to come to Eurape
>>76234200
Muslims are peaceful tbqh fambruhs.
I know Islamaphobes think it's just a meme, but literally a miniscule fraction of a whole percent of Muslims actually carry out violence in the name of their religion, certainly no more than any other religious group. People just hate them because many of them are not white.
>>76234200
t. Mahmud Abu Mehmed Hajaar Khaleed ibn ali-ajmi
>>76234200
>NO FUCKING MEMES
>>76234200
Wow really mages you thing blease gome do Eurape
>>76238608
>Studies from unbaised sources
Follow the links you retard, the ACTUAL studies don't appear, all you get is an error page if you just follow the links.
>>76238608
Did you read what I wrote? Greek and Byzantine got their knowledge from themselves, It was their knowledge. Greek culture was lost in Western Europe during the early Middle Ages because the Byzantine Empire didn't have good relations with the Christians of the West, who were in constant conflict. Western Europe was in perpetual war. When Muslims began to erode the Byzantine Empire, intellectuals fled the Middle East (which spoke Greek and had Greek culture before Islamization) to Italy, where barons and knights took them under their protection. Italian barons were competing one against the other in arts, poetry and science. Byzantine intellectuals were paid by the barons to spread their knowledge of poetry, arts and science. Renaissance started from there. Muslims burned Alessandria and Pergamon, the greatest libraries the world ever knew. Caliph Omar said: 'burn all the books which do not follow the quran, and those which follow the quran, burn them, because we don't need them'. Muslims were a disgrace. Persian scientists were all closet Zoroastrians. Al kuwarizmi was a closet Zoroastrian, he was not Muslim.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
>>76234200
have fun being brutally killed
>>76234200
I wanted to treat you seriously but the. I saw #1. Word counting
>didn't read the rest
Fuck you and fuck off
go back to your shithole you filthy brown shit
>>76239172
>muslims are peaceful
you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Do you even fucking know what muslims think of you?
The muslim world is separated into two regions:
>Dar al-Islam: The House of Islam (i.e. muslim shitskins)
>Dar al-Harab: LITERALLY FUCKING TRANSLATES TO HOUSE OF WAR. THAT IS FUCKING WHAT YOU ARE IN.
Do you wanna know another name for the House of War/Dar al-Harab? The House of the West.
Islamic society has been at war with Christianity and the West since it's inception. Wake the fuck up
>>76239252
Why has some edgy genius not marketed shit rags or cleaning towels with prints of the Torah, Bible, and Quran on them?
>>76234200
>and how blown out of porpotion the idea of a "Muslim threat" is.
kill yourself
even if you're just posting pasta for laughs, kill yourself
>>76234200
The Quran is the self-proclaimed final and absolute truth of Allah to be followed to the letter, the Bible is not.
If there is so much as one command of violence in the Quran then that's enough to be a huge problem. Moderates propagate the book and therefore propagate the threat of violence. Without reformation it will always be a fundamentally dangerous religion.
>>76239491
Just because the Koran says something doesn't mean that the vast majority of Muslims believe or follow that anymore.
The Bible says lots of crazy, violent things too, but just like Islam, only a very tiny percentage of Christians follow those words.
Saw this the other day! Snapped it for pol
>>76239572
Have you ever read the New Testament? Jesus DOESN'T suggest us to kill the infidels or rape their daughters. The Old Testament is not important, nor valid anymore, it is outdated.
>>76239572
>If there is so much as one command of violence in the Quran then that's enough to be a huge problem. Moderates propagate the book and therefore propagate the threat of violence. Without reformation it will always be a fundamentally dangerous religion.
fucking exactly. Christianity was a militant religion at one point. Then there were movements like the Enlightenment and Religious Toleration, which changed Christianity. That needs to happen in Islam too (I doubt it though, since there is no seperation between Church and State, which is a fundemental concept in Christianity).
>>76236905
That's not he point tho
Muslims why are they identified as Muslims? Because of their ideology and beliefs. And those ideas are completely the opposite of modern civilization and our western society
It's not because they believe another religion make them bad. It's how they from the very beginning are not suitable for our society. They want to come? Then abandon your old life style and beliefs
It's like a American or Canadian suddenly go to South Korea then accuse everyone use chopsticks are weird and everyone should speak English. Dude. You ain't belong to here ffs! Integrate or go fucking home
>>76239638
Why is he WHITE? Wait, I know. Racism against whites doesn't count.
>>76234200
>NO FUCKING MEMES
is this the sort of fucking meme that is prohibited?
>>76234200
Le ebin Bible more violent words meme.
You know it counts "Thou shall not kill" as a violent sententce right?
>>76239802
What are you doing in Cucknada? You are too intolerant for this land.
>>76239605
The Koran is meant to be taken literally, while the fucking book is open source and available for people to read there will always be the threat of juhadists. Meanwhile things on the bible can and are encouraged to be interpreted.
You are also ignoring the Hadiths, which are the action of the perfect muslim. If perfection can't be improved, it cannot be changed without being degraded, which means a muslim should follow the Hadiths.
Do you people even read before speaking?
>>76239605
>comparing muhameme, a pedophile, liar and rapist false prophet to the Christ
>>76234200
A FUCKING LEAF
>>76239605
>Just because the Koran says something doesn't mean that the vast majority of Muslims believe or follow that anymore.
Are you literally retarded? So just because most Muslims ignore the abhorrent bullshit in their holy book, that makes it OK?
>The Bible says lots of crazy, violent things too, but just like Islam, only a very tiny percentage of Christians follow those words.
thats a Tu Quoque logical fallacy. We aren't talking about Christianity. What the Bible says is moot point.
>>76234200
1: Islam is the MOST LITERALLY FOLLOWED RELIGIOUS TEXT ON EARTH. Therefore, it doesn't fucking MATTER how many violent statements it has in it because those savages will follow it word for fucking word.
If the quran said "every thursday at 3 am, you must run into the middle of the street, grab the nearest living thing and rape it until it DIES" they would do it.
Christians? We don't crusade anymore. Or kill.
2) blah blah blah, only the numbers in america matter. What about the people they're raping and killing over in the third world shit-hole they come from? Nobody accounts for that. Fuck yourself.
three: you're dumb
>>76239802
>You ain't belong to here ffs
What are you, a ninth grader?
>>76234200
Once you schedule the rapes and assaults caused by illegal aliens in Europe to Terrorism, which it is, there are thousands times more events than the SJW leftoid establishment acknowledges. *Thousands per year, per country*. Islamic terrorism is the #1 threat to occidental culture. Christianity\catholicism reformed itself. If Islam reformed the violence, reformed taqiyya, reformed the tactical gang rape (it's a game in their culture), and if they reformed the pedophilia they might one day have a chance. Until then they are literally genetically inferior savages.
Before you start cucking everywhere, the rape and assault is civil terrorism with the goal of subverting the established culture with shariah law. Rape continues to enforce hijab, assault continues to suppress the native population. It's all terrorism, to turn Europe into Saudi Arabia.
>>76238281
Alright, I'll give you some tips ;)
>Lets Have a Serious discussion about Islam NO FUCKING MEMES
Nice aggressive title: raises interest in the thread, but also suspicion; a double-edged sword.
>So I will admit I am new to this website
Very bold move here, but it can pay off if played right; and it synergizes well with your title.
>Its about fucking time we had a serious discussion about Islam
There's a plethora everyday, but fine, this shows enthusiasm and high energy without raising suspicion overly much; also plays well with your "I'm new" card.
>and how blown out of porpotion the idea of a "Muslim threat" is
Holy shit, you blew your load way too soon. You should save such a bombastic statement for last, or at the very least you should offer facts, figures and some kind of argument before throwing us the hot potato.
>You need to understand that the bible is equally violent, with Jesus himself damming people to hell and promising nothing but eternal torture while a select few (the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven.
Yeah no... You can't have an entire argument be a false fabrication. I originally stopped reading there, but let's see what's next:
>Fact #1: The quran is the least violent book of all the Abrahamic faiths, for it contains the objectively smallest number of violent words and/or phrases
least "violent" words =/= least violent ideology. Literally not an argument.
>Fact #2: Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion by the meida and Donald Trump and bla bla bla
Cologne, #NotAllMuslims
>Third, [...] including arabic as a OPTIONAL course in French high schools is there to build bridges
Oh fuck off. Plenty of opportunities to learn French in France.
>This is not for the sake of "PC" pandering
No it's pandering to Arabs.
>to help maximize the potential of Arabic speaking people who cannot get a job otherwise.
Arabs already speak Arabic; the courses aren't for them.
You'll get there.
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>>76234200
Why don't you look up some pew polls of Muslims' opinions on adultery, or apostasy.
Look up polls of British Muslims' views on Sharia law etc.
>>76237724
Topkek, stupid italian doesnt know his own history, my fucking sides. Most of the attacks by the Red Brigades were false flags by facist supoorted by the military and the secret service, also this was part of a stay behind network in Europe established by the OSS,CIA,NATO. Islamistic Terrorism is a Meme as Red Terrorism in the Cold war was a meme. We are being played like a fiddle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGHXjO8wHsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q0qau8f0w8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/16/world/evolution-in-europe-italy-discloses-its-web-of-cold-war-guerrillas.html
>>76234200
Why don't you look up some pew polls of Muslims' opinions on adultery, or apostasy.
Look up polls of British Muslims' views on Sharia law etc.
>>76234200
>To let immigrants into their country
>To Hate immigrants
>>76234200
lurk at least two more years before your next post newshit
>>76239572
It has a law system that every Muslim has got to follow, it's called the Sharia, you may have heard of it?
Any Muslim that does not follow the Sharia or Sharia law is not a Muslim and should be executed for apostasy, according to Hadith.
>B-but muh peace!
Islam has never and will never be peaceful, it stems from a hostile environment and refuses to modernise and adapt, any mention from groups to try and moderate it and clear up the texts is met with violent opposition by quite a large number of Muslims.
It's dangerous, it cannot be reasoned with or moderated, therefore it must be eradicated.
A hard task to be sure.
>>76234200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(allegation)
>>76240268
You got it wrong. The red brigades and the Italian Communist party were a plant of the USSR. The black terrorists (fascists) were funded by the CIA and everyone knew. Both fascists and moderates were funded by the CIA. Italy was a cold war battleground.
>>76239427
>burned the two greatest libraries
Goddamn it, I try to not hate things as a moral rule,I try but the more I read and the more I learn about those fucking goatfuckers the more I hate them. And retarded faggots like OP would literally spread their women's legs for the raping.
Go back to your sand castle shitskin
>>76234200
Percent of Muslims in America who think suicide bombing against civilians is often justified: 1
Percent of Muslims in America who think suicide bombing against civilians is sometimes justified: 7
Percent of Muslims in America who think suicide bombing against civilians is rarely justified: 5
Percent of Muslims in America who think suicide bombing against civilians is never justified: 81
Percent of Muslims in America who declined to answer: 6
So yeah, when somewhere between 1 in 8 and 1 in 5 Muslims thinks blowing me up might be an okay action, they are terrorists. Especially since that's the most pacifistic Muslims. When in Palestinian territories, 4 out of 5 Muslims are okay with it.
>>76240268
>Islamistic Terrorism is a Meme as Red Terrorism in the Cold war was a meme. We are being played like a fiddle.
Literally what world do you fucking live in? Seriously when I see fucking posts like this from muslims living in western countries it makes my blood boil. Do you read the drivel that you're typing?
The cold war was called the fucking cold war for a reason, namely it lacked ACTUAL conflict. There have been countless terrorist attacks since the year 2000 by sandniggers. Read a fucking book
>bitch about leafposting constantly
>encourage more of it by giving every half-assed canuck troll or fagcunt redditor hundreds of (You)s on demand
why
>>76240585
I'm kind of surprised this thread gained traction; OP may be on to something.
It really makes you think...
>>76240452
Okay, i am sorry, you know the history of your country. Both are despicable actions by both parties, but my point is that the Islamistic Terrorism ( Rise of Fudamental Islam in general ) is part of the stay-behind network in Asia.
>>76240861
If someone repeats the same bullshit lie enough times people start either believing it or thinking it's acceptable to shill it.
/pol/ is only the way it is because autists here never let that bullshit happen.
>>76240898
I think Islamic terrorism is genuine. They really want to kill us because we're kuffar infidels. Americans fuelled the rise of Islamic terrorism to fight the USSR during the cold war. It quickly got out of hand. Now, they try this funding thing often but it never works and ultimately is detrimental. That's why Obama is a muslim and hates America.
>>76240541
>The cold war was called the fucking cold war for a reason, namely it lacked ACTUAL conflict. There have been countless terrorist attacks since the year 2000 by sandniggers. Read a fucking book.
Yeah, and how where these fucking sandniggers able to do all this shit? Why was Socialst-Secularism crushed in the Middle East Read a fucking e-book, ameribro. And Red Terrorism was a Meme in Europe, there are several occasion where the German State helped the RAF and used them for their own means.
Buddy, there was so much covert conflict in Cold War the Hot War never enden since 1945, it was just carried out in the Peripherie and now we are getting the heat..
>>76241421
>It quickly got out of hand.
What makes you think that? Maybe it is still partially in control? Is your State become more and more authoritarian?
Besides that you are right, muslims are fucking feral.
>>76241421
Has your state, sorry bruh i am drunk as hell
>>76241421
Infidel is a Christian word used to describe Muslims, it was used by Crusaders lel.
Stupid Muslims.
>violence in the bible that christians ignore is more important than the violence muslims actually commit
a fucking leaf
>>76241697
There wasnt twitter in that year
>>76241625
It got out of hand because there's proof it got out of hand. Pic related is Osama bin laden, who fought the Russians and was funded by America. He was a hero. Was. After the fall of USSR, America showed hostility in the gulf. Muslims were already blinded by religious fanatism. Russia disappeared and a new 'enemy of islam' appeared: America, their old financier.
>>76239605
Fuck off, troll
>>76241871
really makes you think
>>76241871
Jamaica, you trigger me.
>>76234200
The bible has more instances of violence, the Quran actually urges future violence.
>>76234200
Is it goat-fucking manual quoting time again?
It's goat-fucking manual quoting time again.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
>>76242047
america is the main source of evil in today's world, we can only hope for a few more 9/11s to punish these arrogant murritards.
>>76237991
>In America
Is that whole statistic meant to be impressive? That 90% of attacks in America are committed by non-Muslims? GEE WIZ, they really chose a fucking good one there. Its like
"So what we've discovered is that the 99.1% of the population comitts more crime than the 0.9%!! Do you see now!!! The Muslims aren't thr problem!"
When you look at the figures of how many deadly Jihadist/terrorist attacks have killed people in America, the number is still astonishing given the fact that Muslims make up 0.9% of the population. I think, when this particular stat was released, the score was like 26 killed by Muslims in US, 48 killed by non-muslims (anyone else)
>>76242047
>After the fall of USSR...
...All the Jihadist were moved to Yugoslavia, then to Kosovo and after this the Balkans has become a breeding ground for international jihadism financed by the Saudis. You are right, they didn't need the Jihadist against hte USSR after 1991, rather they needed it them to create a NEW WORLD ORDER. Islamistic terrorism is the perfect tool to justify war of aggression and the decline of citiziens rights.
Islam is a religion of peace. If Trump is man enough to admit he loves it, surely all of you can.
>>76236226
Well fucking A, you fucking solved this cancerous sub-human dumbass of a fucking puzzle.
Which of those words is more insulting and/or violent. Fucking, cancerous or sub-human?
You see it's not how often the word is used. It's the difference between a tantrum and a genocide.
>>76234200
Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."
Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
>>76242795
yeah, guess how many times the phrase "kill jews" is used in nazi documents...
final solution
lebensraum
repression
wrecker
counter-revolutionary
all these "peaceful" words are much scarier than any vulgar rant...
>>76242795
The subhuman asked for a serious discussion and then he can't spare the ad hominem and gratuitous insults. He's a Muslim serb immigrant after all. Like, the zeta of zetas. That's below untermensch.
>>76237267
A fundamentalist is someone who supports following the Quran literally and wants sharia law to be the law of the land. They are the largest problem to integration. Although they won't attack when they are a minority, they will start enforcing Sha'ria law once they become a majority in a certain area and once they become a majority in a country they will help enforce Sha'ria law on everyone in the country.
>>76240491
>So yeah, when somewhere between 1 in 8 and 1 in 5 Muslims thinks blowing me up might be an okay action, they are terrorists
I don't like this because I can think of a few instances where suicide bombing against civilians is justified. Say, A /pol/ meet up.
>>76242610
More attacks on American soil would result in entire nations being bombed into oblivion and destroyed. It wouldn't even have to be the right nation, either. Iraq and Afghanistan would be nothing compared to what Trump or Hillary would do.
Definitely not saying I encourage this, but this is the way it's always been.
MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, THEY ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>extremism
>white/blonde/blue eyed Aryan
Sounds like your atypical extremist.
>>76243296
It's not the people. It's the ideology. You know what the "best" kind of muslim is? The one who isn't a muslim or else thinks they are but mostly just ignores their own book.
>>76242753
Fuck you're right about the Saudi money in Yugoslavia. All Mosques of Albania and Bosnia are financed by the Saudi and it's a well known fact here. The white muslims of the balkans should have been genocided by the Christian Serbs and the Croatians. Too bad they couldn't finish it.
>>76234200
Taqiyya, you dumb leaf.
>mudslime r subhuman le aryan masterace xD
>dey onlee kill peepol europeons never ever war EVER
>dey ar subhuman savages
>*faps to new Blacked.com video*
>yea dey r nemies of western civiluzashun
>>76243536
>seculars are just as bad
Atheists BTFO
Dumb fucking leaf.
You're not fooling anybody.
>be rude to Muslims to immigrate for a better life
>disrespect their customs
>refuse to integrate their needs and traditions EQUALLY into society
>be surprised when they shoot and bomb you
Is this /pol/ """logic"""?
>>76243654
MUSLIM LOO SPOTTED
WHAT THE HELL AMERICA HALF OF US POSTERS ARE IMMIGRANTS SERIOUSLY WTF
>>76234200
>Islamic terrorism is blown far out of porportion by the meida
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQJshxuF9zA
>>76243785
>move somewhere
>expect other people to change to cater to your preferences
Is this kiwi logic?
>>76243785
no one is forcing you to live in western civilization. Don't like it, go back to your shithole.
also: Because people don't dictate your needs, they deserve to be killed and blown up?
>>76243697
doing gods work, Praceteom.
>>76234200
Read the Koran and then tell me that with a straight face,
Funny, I used to believe the same as you before I read that god forsaken devil book
>>76234200
LEAF
>>76234200
>least violent
>doctrine literally says to behead non-believers
cuckadians just leave you don't belong here
>>76243785
Integration is a natural process. No one integrated Italians in the 1910s. Everyone hated the wop. Yet, they blended in because they were white and learned the American way of life after 30 years of criminality and ghettization.
You can't teach the Muslim how to behave. He will learn it through discrimination and lynchings. Cultural integration is useless.
>>76234200
Why would anyone fear the religion of peace?
>>76243952
It's nothing to do with childish notions like "deserve". It's about being respectful of others' needs. If you sneer at Sharia and shit all over the prophet, you should expect retribution. The fact is, Muslims ARE a part of our societies now. If you refuse to allow their traditions and needs to have an equal footing, then they are left with no option but force.
>>76243865
The takeover process has already begun bhaijaan. These dumb kaffirs dont know that most posts under the US flag are either muslims or hispanics or blacks
>>76243785
>be barbaric religious cult
>kill thousands of nonbelievers for not converting
>kill anyone that even thinks about revising the religion
>rape and pillage every place they go
>be surprised when people aren't comfortable with mass immigration and religion
Yeah they're innocent angels.
Fucking dumb drunk aussies
Justin Trudeau needs to censor the Internet for these Canadians so they can't access 4chan anymore. I mean, it's 2016.
>>76234200
>the bible is equally violent
True but Christianity has been modernized over the years as Islam has not. Christianity doesn't believe the death of those who insult, criticize or do not believe in christianity
>>76244274
>needs
If they need sharia they can go to the shithole they just left.
>The fact is, Muslims ARE a part of our societies now
We can change that
>If you refuse to allow their traditions and needs to have an equal footing, then they are left with no option but force.
>equal footing
Unless you are advocating for torture and rape of Kafirs then you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>76244274
I know this is bait, but I will explain why the reasoning is faulty.
The first reason is that he is assuming that people should give a visitor and newcomer to the country's customs equal footing to the country's native customs. This shouldn't be done because not everyone's customs deserve equal respect. If you have a custom of beheading women who dress without covering skin, then you should be hung for trying to implement it.
Secondly it creates a false dichotomy
>You can either let them in and respect their customs
>Or you can let them attack you
Other options include kicking them out, arresting them, or simply murdering them for attacking us.
>>76237926
Says the australian...
>>76244274
> If you sneer at Sharia and shit all over the prophet, you should expect retribution.
Literally listen to yourself, you deranged lunatic. Imagine if I said "hurr durr if you sneer and shit all over my anime, you deserve retribution". Thats what you sound like to everyone with a fucking brain.
No one owes you SHIT. You and your kind are not part of our society and you never will be. Go back to your islamic shithole.
>>76234200
first off.... "time we had a serious disucssion about islam", that shit happens daily kiddo, your shit about surfing for 2 months is a lie
secondly, you say how blown out of proportion the idea of a muslim threat is. its not an idea, its a very real thing. it is very obvious the vast majority or muslims hate the west expecially usa for whatever reasons, with many acts of violence and even more threats of them
after you just saying that it is "so blown out of proportion", you say the bible or christianity i assume is equally violent. so what is it? either you are saying that muslim threat is out of porportion, and therefor you saying the christianity of the same, or you are stating yourself that islam is violent all the same
fact1: no one cares about how violent the book is, people care about how violent the people are, this really has no relevance. a murderer could read 1st grader books about rabbits and bunnies, this is of no relevance to how the people act
fact2: donald trump makes a living by being and exceptionally good business man, not fear mongering. also, its pretty safe the say that the majority of the median always downplays the threats of islam, in an attempt to seem politically correct, because god forbid you offend some people telling facts
3rd this point makes no sense. if they have so much trouble finding jobs, why the fuck come to france? why are the native people supposed to pander their culture and traditions to other people? if you wanna maximize the potential of these people, you should move them back to w/e the bum fuck they came from, and tell them to start a business in their own country
lastly, i know this is probably a troll post, but you give leafs a bad name
>>76234200
Fuck off cancuck.
Mudshits deserve genocide same as left faggots like you.
Sage&hide
>>76234200
>>76234200
> So I will admit I am new to this website and have been surfing it for only 2 months
Get the fuck out. Why is pol attracting so many faggots over the last few years?
>>76234200
>>76236116
>>76236226
Kek because canada is so relevant?hahahahaa
OP is a troll, but he has a point, at least about how the Muslim threat in the West is vastly blown out of proportion, especially in countries like the US. Americans afraid of Muslims is literally North Korean level of paranoia.
As far as Europe is concerned, there are over 20 million Muslims in the EU right now. If even 1% of them were terrorists, Europe would feel like Syria right now. In reality, it only takes a few guys to cause absolute chaos. If there was one lone bomber in Germany, it would cause the entire country to come to a standstill, and the EU. Literally one fucking guy would make /pol/ shitpost about Muslims for days and weeks on end even more than you do now. Think about that for a moment.
Anyway, a quick scroll through the thread proves that /pol/ is not interested in serious discourse, anyway. Literally an echo chamber and hug box on par with Tumblr.
>>76240491
do you seriously think someone would answer that question honestly? I cant believe there are muslims who said yes to any of those questions
I have read about questionnaires re illegal drug use. Blacks claim on the questionnaire that they don't use illegal drugs, out of fear that the survey might be some ruse to get them in trouble, but when the survey is followed up with a drug test the final percentage of blacks with illegal drugs in their system is never as low as the reported number of blacks who initially admitted to using
where the young muslim men in Minnesota who were just found guilty of trying to leave the country and join ISIS just some rogue minority? where did they worship? they were recruited online far before Trump announced his candidacy b tw
>>76237690
>16:20
I don't know why this is so funny to me
>>76234200
>Christian violence=Muslim violence
Yeah nah you're a cunt. I mean really? You probably think the crusades were the Christians fault too, right? Kek.
>>76241421
Muslims had already been at war with each other and the rest of the world for over 1000 continuous years before America was even founded.
>>76234200
>>76250619
lol wew lad
The current generation of muslim migrants are the worst ever seen, I know people who are muslim and lived here their whole lives, they're some of the most disciplined persons I've ever seen, but you cannot compare them, the old generation and integrated muslims to those that came to Europe after 2011 or even 2009. They're a whole different world.
>>76234200
>You need to understand that the bible is equally violent, with Jesus himself damming people to hell and promising nothing but eternal torture while a select few (the ones who lick the boot of JC the most) get a ticket to heaven.
The Bible is part of our civilization. I care more about the book that refers to me as it's enemy.
I'm not capable of holding them to the same standards.
All this still does not change the fact that Muhammad fucked a 9 year old [Bukhari 7:62:88]. Inb4 it's not in the Quran. Bukhari is believed by Sunnis, which are the majority of Muslims.
Also, the age of consent in Yemen is 9, so that verse has had an impact on Muslim culture.
>>76234200
Shove your taquiyya up your fatwa.
OP are you delusional or what? Oh wait...this is "trolling"...okay...I get it. It was funny. Now get back to reality and look at the stats posted in this thread, for example: >>76235889
You think Islam is so benign? Go live in a Muslim society and then make another thread when you're begging to crawl back to secular (and originally based on Christianity) Canada.
>>76234200
it says you can lie in your bible lie too infidels lie too non believers, lets pack up the thread boys stop replying too bait, learn that fact in the islamic faith they try to control us all to believe them then they kill us all.
Terrorism statistics retard.
>b-b-but it says in the bible that
Yes, but how many people act according to that? How many Christians actually even believe in the New Testament, let alone the Bible as a whole?
It's just a set of morals from which they pick the nicest ones at this point, not a religion. And they prey to feel safer.
Plus their prophet wasn't a murdering pedophile, therefore when they follow him they don't commit murder or pedophilia. Statistics confirm this as well.
That about covers it.
>>76234200
>worldwide
>non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america
