So swissfags.
What are you voting today?
>>76165073
for Anschluss hopefully
>>76165197
That flag is sexy.
>>76165073
If Switzerland votes yes, you will finally be rid of all of your migrants, Germany.
The (((lender's))) cattle will head to greener pastures.
>>76165197
Inb4 Swiss citizens save Yurop by going on a killing spree for shitskins with their guns.
Inb4 Switzerland becomes very relevant in world history more than it has been before.
>>76165367
Auslandsdeutsche are cancerous peopel anyway.
Switzerland for the Swiss
>>76165197
>>76165197
fuck off were full
>>76165197
tbqh
i like this flag its just that would be a disaster, there could be a gradual expansion of Switzerland but to throw everyobdy together would just fuck things up
>>76165073
>The Swiss getting involved in anything ever
Pls dont
Prenatal diagnostics - yes, whatever
>inb4 muh eugenics, shut up it's not possible.
Milchkuh-Initiative (Automobilists having a temper tantrum) - no, you don't get to pick and choose your taxes, Hansli.
Asylum law rework - no
Pro service public - Haven't educated myself enough about it, so no vote.
Universal basic income - I want this country to last at least 10 more years, so no.
>>76165073
what's this all about?
>>76166260
>Basic income
>fugees
>more money for streets
>>76166144
PLZ explain grundeinkommen no...
It btfos all Sozialfälle. People will spend it so economy goes up. People finding jobs have it chill in times of need.
>>76165073
None-gun owner here
What's wrong with the way the gun is held?
>>76166492
I just read another thread.
The parliament has voted no, the polls give 60% to no.
Switzerland confirmed best country in Europe and possibly on earth.
Pan-European Anschluss when?
>>76165073
They are gonna reject it, assuming you are talking about the basic income.
I don't remember the specifics anymore but some medpack laid out all the reasons why their proposal is fucking retarded a while ago. Basically, their unconditional basic income wouldn't be unconditional.
Oh shit I forgot to vote.
>>76165197
fixed
>>76166657
you fuking nigger GO NOW!
>>76166562
gtfo
>>76166144
>eugenics are bad
>>76166690
Nah, I'm sick and I don't want to leave my house.
>>76166628
The parliament is fairly powerless. And we still dont know the results for sure.
>>76166788
>part of the problem
Skipping voting ever makes you nigger tier
>>76166657
Do it, dont let the gommies win
>>76166657
Goddammit me too
>>76166835
What part of the problem?
I've voted everytime since I was 18.
It will be the first time I don't vote. Anyways, it seems that the results will reflect the way I wanted to vote, so no damage done.
>>76166788
>>76166991
do your duty to the rest of europe. Stop this madness man.
they can easily rig the vote like they did in austria.
GO
>>76166530
>People will spend it so economy goes up.
This is "let's just print more money, then we're all rich"-levels of not understanding anything, ever.
And it will not btfo all Sozialfälle, fuck no. They don't even have any idea how they would want to finance this shit. One idea, I think, is to basically put a tax on every transaction, no matter the nature of that transaction. MwSt will go up to ridiculous percentages. And if you've got people not working anymore because they get free gibs from the state, who the fuck is going to pay the taxes these people don't bring in anymore, to fund their basic income?
It just doesn't work. At least not right now. There's more reasons but I've got other shit to do right now.
>>76167093
>print mo money
> CHF goes down
> inflation goes up
> ???
> profit
Daily reminder that CHF/EUR at 1,10 and inflation at -0.2% is not good for anybody
> inb4 you dont even economics
> protip: you dont
>>76167384
True, I don't. You seem to have difficulty to make any sense at all though.
>>76167093
How do you solve the bloated social help bullshit?
I've received money from RAV once when I was unemployed for around 4 months, it was a fucking bloated mess of buerocracy and they shit on people that actually have contributed to the system like myself, while handing out free money to any fucker that arrives from third world countries or even Swiss bastards that don't want to work due to "medical" reasons.
Once while waiting to see my "Berater" (which is just a faggot that doesn't give a shit about you and would tell you go work on a call center even if you have high qualifications), I saw a bunch of Somalis basically giving their bills at the counter for the RAV and social help shit to pay them.
They were handled way better than me, with lots of politeness and smiles.
It's clear that this system just wants these problems to continue since they wouldn't have a reason to exist anymore if we changed the social help shit.
>>76167057
You don't rig votes in Switzerland.
the people here don't accept the smallest irregularities even having a single questionable result is too much.
>>76166762
Eugenics would be great, if humans had any clue what they are doing. They don't, so it's bad.
What if you're modifying a population to have a certain trait. Let's say you only want to have people with an IQ of 120<. Now, you select/modify genomes only to produce this phenotype, and suddenly, your population gets obliterated by some tiny disease, for which the genes a,b,c,d,e etc. produced a resistance against (of course it isn't that straightforward in reality, but this is just a model). You just didn't see that coming, because humans are stupid. If you put anyone in charge of evolution, a natural process, it's going to backfire, hard.
>>76167623
I wish it was the same in Germany.
>votes are counted by pupils
>they "accidentally" give one seat too few to the AfD
>politician actually goes on record asking what is worse, a bit of voting fraud or an additional seat for the AfD
>>76167601
I completely agree with you. I know people who have gone through the same bullshit and it's frustrating as fuck. I've got no solution, although I can say that the Grundeinkommen is not it.
>>76167489
Nevermind, massive "no" expected anyway
5x "No"
>>76167824
Well you can just start small and beginn with eliminating the sick and retarded nad keep them from breeding
>tfw 20 and all my friends want to vote yes despite me telling them why they shouldn't
millenials, man
>>76168010
>although I can say that the Grundeinkommen is not it.
Depends. If it is just enough for rent in a cheaper place plus food and you scrap all bureacracy and other welfare and only give it to born citizens, it could be alright.
Probably not much more expensive than before (since you got rid of the bureaucracy), people who are content with living on that wouldn't have worked anyway and it gets much harder for the industry to exploit workers since they don't depend on them for survival.
You'd need to have access to all the exact numbers to find out if it's a better option than the current system though.
>>76168131
fukin shit senpai that's why you faggots need to go out and vote
>>76165073
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>>76166144
this bh
>>76168115
>Not wanting to prevent mentally handicapped or sick babies
>>76165197
Das Boot ist voll
Fuck off kraut we dont want you and we dont like you
>>76166562
Considering it depicts Germany, I don't see a problem in the way he holds the RPG.
>>76166530
You will have to finance it one way or another. It's just redistribution of income wrapped up in good wishes.
What makes you think that people who will receive a basic income will spend it smarter, than a people who lost portion of their income due to a tax increase? Basic income is just a way to destroy work initiative for both parties.
>>76165471
meh, looks gay.
>>76165197 is better
>>76166144
>Asylum law rework - no
What did they want to rework?
>>76168220
The videos they share on fb are just so cringeworthy. Their solution to the problem of people stopping work is "don't worry, people won't stop working because they would get bored".
Also, they don't even know if they can finance this. It just blows my mind how brain-dead they are.
>>76165197
Fuck you faggot we don´t want to be in your cuck shed.
>>76168122
this this this eugenics is about as right wing as it gets
>>76168497
Mostly about outsource the procedure from the states to the federal, no real big deal
Neutral
>>76168501
that's why you guys need to vote vote vote.
You can't take your chances with those people, because once they take over they are going to fuck you up so royally, you will cri everynite.
Just like they did here. They elected that cocksucking mongrel, Tsipras and we basically destroyed Europe in 10 months.
>>76168220
The ballots are already closed since 12:00 and we get the first results.
http://www.srf.ch
Trends:
Asylum law: yes, called
Prenatal: yes, called
Universal basic incom: no
Service public: no, not yet called
Transportation finance: no, not yet called.
>>76168501
>because they would get bored
Something that could only ever be said by an unimaginative person with no hobbies.
>>76168683
>asylum
>yes
explain
>>76168614
Is you cuck shed better?
>>76168426
What about this? Not that I long for an Anschluss, mind, only on aesthetic grounds
>>76168858
>implying we do not have a perfectly good flag already
>>76168789
It speeds up the process and disqualifies a large number of hopeless applications as they don't have a chance and can get denied within days.
Off to facebook to see normies cry about the universal basic income
>>76168384
Don't be mean, Toblerone.
>>76168965
ah good
>>76169027
enjoy being based. I envy you, you fucking cunt.
>>76167601
>>76168010
Could you explain to a dumb non-Swiss why the fuck the Grundeinkommen has to be so fucking high?
I understand that with a basic income the bureaucratic bullshit could be cut done to a minimum, improving the efficiency of the system. But a basic income of 25000 Franken would with an almost 100% probability lead to massive inflation and a decrease of the Franken in value. Why not just set the value of the Grundeinkommen to the current unemployment subsidies?
>>76165197
>mixing together the mountain fortress with the turk'd cucks
>>76168122
>>76168617
That's exactly what I mean by saying humans cannot be put in charge of evolution. You demonstrate that perfectly.
>>76168497
The gist of it is faster processing of asylum seekers. Free legal advocacy for asylum seekers. Supposedly this reduces the number of "complaints" (if you get rejected, you can fight it, for some reason), but in reality it's just lawyers expanding their client pool to refugees paid for by the state. And my biggest gripe about it:
The "Plangenehmigungsverfahren" which is just a euphemism for "hey, we need the space where you're living to build an asylum center, if you refuse, you get bullied into accepting a meager payment for the property you're losing."
So the state can fuck your shit up to house Mohammed and Ali. The main argument against this point is "Oh Anon, it's never going to happen". True, maybe not in the next 2 or 3 years. But just watch, when we hit the 10 Million population mark, it's going to get crowded, and Mohammed will be entitled to your living space ;)
>>76169048
Toblerone best chocolate senpai don't talk shit.
>>76169135
wasn't meant as an insult
>>76165073
Why does Switzerland get a small flag?
>>76169110
>implying something bad will happen if we keep people with genetic disorders from breeding. selectiv breeding works mate
>>76169225
Because their flag is smaller
>>76169225
because our flag is a square
>>76169269
>>76169321
But why?
>>76165073
Results when?
>>76169084
>tfw I'm not originally swiss and just helped save a country that isn't mine
>>76169347
because squares are perfect.
>>76169378
it's your country now, fαm.
>>76169347
Flag sizes was standardized in the 1890's, swiss didn't followed
Fuck the basic income.
>>76168683
>(Anti)Asylum law: No
Thank you based neighbour. But send those camel jokeys and niggers to the south or north when they get thrown out.
>>76169266
It might work for some time. But there's always something no one ever thought about, and genetic variability is the most important thing in a gene pool. If you cut it down once, your population is not going to recover most of the time, because not enough different genotypes can originate from that lowered genetic diversity. Then there are genetic disorders that have advantages: Psychopathy for example, or sickle cell disease can both be beneficial. As I said, maybe you remove something from the gene pool that's extremely important in the long run, and then it's too late to revert the damage done.
>>76169089
It would be 2500 SFr. And that is just some number too, there's no actual number proposed in the initiative itself. It would need to be high, because our prices are ridiculous. It's also not about "fixing" unemployment, the people who thought of the Grundeinkommen only have the gibsmedats in mind, not actual problem solving. Go figure.
>>76169724
I meant 2500 SFr. I was braindead there for a second.
Exactly. I would be not averse to a basic income based on the principle of negative taxes, as proposed by Milton Friedman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax) set at a reasonable value to survive, but not at a ludicrously high amount like that.
If they'd intended to replace unemployment benefits and the bloated bureaucracy behind it, I'd be all for that. But that just seems like a proposition to found the SDR (Swiss Democratic Republic)
> All hail Swiss Honecker
>>76169463
Danke schon, armen Freund.
>>76170068
2500 are peanuts in Switzerland (enough for a shit tier flat, health insurance, energy and meh tier food). Even a fucking call center agent with no skills takes home 4300 for doing nothing.
>>76169451
No such thing, aspect ratios vary to this day
>>76169451
> implying
>>76170437
God that flag is cool
someone got original of that pic?
>>76165073
Prenatal diagnostics - yes (found no issues with it)
Milchkuh-Initiative - no (That's not how taxation works)
Asylum law rework - yes (get rid of them "refugees" faster)
Pro service public - no (I can't stand central planning)
Universal basic income - yes (Didn't give a shit and let /pol/ decide)
>>76170750
>>76170786
>>76170818
>tfw the only ones who are liked are the Bavarians
>tfw you were born in NRW and are thus the nigger of Germany
>>76170890
>>76170660
I'd have a problem with preimplementation diagnostics. Of course it should be allowed if the child would be sure to die soon after its birth and guaranteed to live a life of pain, but an ultra-liberal legislation like the one now voted for by the Swiss also creates the possibility of creating "designer babies" and selection of perfectly healthy humans based on their eye colour, hair, skin colour etc.
It's essentially what the Nazis did by condemning countless mentally or physically disabled and people of "inferior heritage" to be unworthy to live
>>76165499
Turn back the boche's!
>>76170818
other version
>>76170993
>preimplementation diagnostics
That's is a pretty different thing from prenatal diagnostics. Prenatal diagnostics are performed on an unborn child, i.e. they could lead to an abortion.
PID is for in-vitro fertilization.
>>76168794
Yes
>>76170993
>Wird das neue Fortpflanzungsmedizingesetz angenommen, so ist es in zwei spezifischen Fällen erlaubt, die Gene eines Embryos vor dem Einsetzen in die Gebärmutter zu untersuchen (vgl. Präimplantationsidagnostik):
Ein Paar kann nicht auf natürliche Weg Kinder bekommen: Die PID soll erlauben einen möglichst entwicklungsfähigen Embryo auszuwählen.
Ein Paar ist Träger einer Erbkrankheit: Durch die PID kann in diesem Fahl ein Embryo ausgewählt werden, der die Erbkrankheit nicht trägt.
Nicht erlaubt ist die PID zur Bestimmung von Augenfarbe oder Geschlecht. Vor der Durchführung einer PID, muss ein Paar von einem Arzt darüber informiert werden. Die Kosten für eine PID muss ein Paar selbst tragen.
National-, Stände und Bundesrat befürworten die Revision.
It's not allowed to do that.
>>76171277
fucked up the quoting, oh well
>>76166851
UBI is not 'communist'.
>>76170993
>Of course it should be allowed if the child would be sure to die soon after its birth and guaranteed to live a life of pain, but an ultra-liberal legislation like the one now voted for by the Swiss also creates the possibility of creating "designer babies" and selection of perfectly healthy humans based on their eye colour, hair, skin colour etc.
I don't see a problem with creating humans that are of superior intelligence, ... by selecting which egg to implant. I see a problem with it if it's done via abortion or even later. Improving the human condition is desirable in my book.
The legislation doesn't really allow for it though, but I wish it did. It's only for the infertile and people with mongrel genetics.
>>76171181
Krass dass Mehrheit Ja för d'Asylgsetzrevision stimmt. Ich han immer gmeint d'Mehrheit wot weniger Asylante
>>76171383
hier die version ohne schweiz
>>76171383
Wasn Schmaan.
Mia san kene Ösis und mia san kene Schweizer
Mia san mia
>>76171730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUEyYuZkjVI
>>76168243
Are younfolks voting for an initiative regarding welfare? Like income?
>>76171181
>le bavaria is not cucked meme
Ever been to Munich?
>>76171594
>swiss guy fell for his own memes and unironically thought they were based
>>76171594
und wie führt es zu mehr?
Wenn mr weniger wend würde mr lieber mol artikel 31 vo de flüchtlingskonvention strikt umsetze:
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20189/volume-189-I-2545-English.pdf
Wer nid direkt usem chriegsgebiet chunnt und sich zack zack goht go registriere wird usegworfe.
Only true opinion coming through:
Pro Service Public: Fuck no, I don't want public transport, the mail and Swisscom to get even worse than they already are because they can't draw any profit anymore. Only retarded lefties could come up with such an insane idea.
Universal Basic Income: Hell no, we don't need even more niggers coming here and mooching off of our social welfare
Milchkuh initiative: That was a fucking retarded and nonsensical initiative. No, of course.
Prenatal diagnostics: Yes, I found no issues with it and progress in medicine is always good, as long as they don't go full eugenics on us.
Asylum law rework: Yes, so the foreigners can leave faster.
>>76172103
Cities like that are always shitholes. Vienna is definitely not better off.
>>76172481
>und wie führt es zu mehr?
>Wenn mr weniger wend würde mr lieber mol artikel 31 vo de flüchtlingskonvention strikt umsetze:
Ebe genau darum. Ade sach WER do darf blibe, änderet sich nüt. Also weniger werdes ganz sicher ned.
Dadurch dass s'Verfahre schneller goht chamer ede gliche Ziit meh abwickle. Wenn meh Lüt es Gsuech stelle ide Schwiiz, chamer also schneller meh Lüt ufneh. Oder wieso meinsch sind alli Linke för die Revision?
>>76172696
The majority of the population lives in big cities. You seem to fail to realize that's a problem if each democratic vote counts equally
>tfw women and cucked cityfolk gave us a green president who is a literal commie
>>76172705
Chunsch du vo Basel?
>all those disgusting deutch
>>76172982
>Romand
>>76171186
The legislation voted about was about PID.
>>76171277
Thanks, didn't realise that. In this case, I appreciate the law.
Only one thing: What's the definition of "Erbkrankheit" here? If it's a condition which may make the child's live living hell, I'm all in. In case of Down Syndrome etc. where it's still possible to live a happy life despite the condition...not so much.
>>76171380
I don't think that anyone should decide if someone has the freedom to live. I'm a social libertarian, and deeming anybody as "unworthy to live" just because of his/her genes is a massive infringement on the most basic human right, the right to live. Of course you could say the people with Down Syndrome won't have the possibilities in life a "mentally normal" person has. But does that make children/adults with Down Syndrome any less happy? No, they actually tend to be friendlier than the average.
Nobody should be in charge of deciding if a person is allowed to pursue happiness, not the state, not the people, not the parents.
>>76173150
>Swiss guy not from the same village as me
>Not a real Swiss guy
Oh, those leftist tears were glorious when they saw the results of the Universal Basic Income.
But of course, as good leftists always do, they managed a wonderful trick of mental gymnastics telling everyone that "it isn't a defeat, atleast people talked about it".
Yeah, sure, when your idea is vetoed by 75-80% of the population, you sure made them talk about it.
>>76172915
Nei wieso
>>76173277
If they veto against your proposal, you win.
>>76173277
What's wrong with confiscating Soros' bank account and distribute it among the Swiss, though? He is only a valley jew, you owe him nothing.
>>76166926
>>76166991
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>76173353
Ich han äifach mal versuecht z'rate wo du härchunsch. Es isch natürlich nöd so äifach wänn mer nummen uf Schwizerdütsch "schribt" aber mer nöd ghöre chan wie du öppis genau säisch oder was für Wörter du tuesch benütze. Ich würd aber trotzdem säge, dass du jetzt scho ä ziemlich gueti Idee häsch wo ich chönnt härecho. Mäischtens chan mer ziemli liecht usefinde wo öpper härchunt, sälbscht wänn mer dä Dialäkt numme läse chan, aber nöd ghöre. So isch halt öises Schwizerdütsch. Oft git's scho vo Gmeinde zu Gmeinde en hörbaren Unterschied.
>>76173978
kys autist
>>76174009
>kys
Found the underage b&.
>>76172705
>Dadurch dass s'Verfahre schneller goht chamer ede gliche Ziit meh abwickle. Wenn meh Lüt es Gsuech stelle ide Schwiiz, chamer also schneller meh Lüt ufneh. Oder wieso meinsch sind alli Linke för die Revision?
Wills verfahre weniger choschtet und schneller isch?
Wie viel lüüt me chan ufneh hangt nid vo de verfahrenslängi ab. Wenns länger goht hesch halt eifach mehr verfahre parallel am laufe. Es chönnt höchschtens sii, dass mehr chömme will sie gern schnelli verfahre wend. Falls das so isch, denn müesse mr halt nomol an d urne.
>>76173173
I can understand that you don't like it, but still - you're selecting one out of at most 12 eggs that gets a shot at life by being implanted. You "kill" at most 11 pluripotent stem cells. More of them die every time you scratch yourself.
In addition to that people who otherwise would be more wary of having kids due to them having inheritable genetic diseases can now have children with much less to worry about. Sure you may have wed out the guy with enough chromosomes for twins who may have been happy, but much more likely you've wed out the guy who would have called dignitas because he has MS.
>>76174596
>Wie viel lüüt me chan ufneh hangt nid vo de verfahrenslängi ab.
Wenn so eine id Schwiz chont ond en Asylatrag stellt, chonter enes Ufnahmezentrum vom Bund. Det blibt er bis s'Verfahre abgschlosse und und nacher werd er emene Kanton zueteilt.
Die Plätz ide Ufnahmezentre sind begrenzt, det hend ned unendlich platz.
Wenn sone Welle vo Flüchtling chont, wie vill Lüt vorusgseit hend, denne stauts ade Ufnahmezentre. Darum wend die Linke s'Verfahre beschleunige, dass die schneller verteilt werde. Nid dass mehr weniger Asylante hend.
S'beste Szenario gseht so us, dass mehr glich vill Asylante hend und s'Verfahre weniger chostet.
S'schlechteste Szenario gseht so us, dass mehr meh Asylante hend (meh Gsuech gstellt wo schneller abgwicklet werde) und höcheri Koste (wöll alli Abglehnte bes vore Europäische Grichtshof gönd)
Wenn d "Operation Libero" sogar deför esch und du nid stutzig wirsch, denn lauft öppis falsch met der.
>>76167601
Because other social help would be replaced by the universal basic income.
No more unemployed shit and other social care.
You got your money, don't come and fuck with us.
>implying you can make anything with CHF 2500.- in any swiss city...
>>76168960
You're a cuck from the worst kind.
>>76174596
Absolutely, and I can understand your notion too that if we have the technology, we could use it for "good" - but the problem for me (and possibly for anyone concerned about this) is that this isn't only a pragmatical/political question (we have this technology, how should we use it?) but a philosophical as well. Can we still claim that people naturally have the liberty to decide for themselves and pursue their own happiness if the very existence of these people isn't determined by chance anymore (thus "evening out" the playing field, giving every new baby born the chance to be a genius or a retard) but by humans?
>>76176646
And if all people could profit equally from this, of course it'd be cool and all (although I'd still have a problem with altering the evolution, but maybe I'm just too much of a conservatard on this issue), but in reality? In reality only people living in the "First World" could possibly select their babies this way, furthering the gap between us lucky 20% and the remaining 80%. If you'd think further even more, after generations we would have a completely selected genius population in the First World, while in the Third World, the people are now not only handicapped by their financial and technological means, but even deeper, by biological means.
And this would resemble greatly the "Übermensch" myth of the Nazis. And that mythical dystopical place where your chances aren't determined by achievement or willpower, but by birth again (eugenical feudalism ftw) is a world I do not want to live in.
>>76175326
>Die Plätz ide Ufnahmezentre sind begrenzt, det hend ned unendlich platz.
Stimmt. Und wenn sie voll sind, denn chömets in zivilschutz alage.
>Wenn sone Welle vo Flüchtling chont, wie vill Lüt vorusgseit hend, denne stauts ade Ufnahmezentre. Darum wend die Linke s'Verfahre beschleunige, dass die schneller verteilt werde. Nid dass mehr weniger Asylante hend.
In dem referendum gohts nid um e reduktion vod e azahl ""flüchtling"". Sie chönnt dezue füehere dass weniger bliibe will sie mehr chole bechömme wenn sie scho am afang vom verfahre gönd. sie chönnti dezue füehere, dass mehr chömme will sie churzi verfahre wend (wasi nid glaub, will viele dörthii wennd wo sie am meischte gratis geld kriege oder familie hend) oder zur gliche anzahl.
De grund wieso ich defür bin, isch dass es schneller goht, also sich die abglehnte ""flüchtling"" schneller wieder sölle verpisse udn weniger choschtet.
>S'schlechteste Szenario gseht so us, dass mehr meh Asylante hend (meh Gsuech gstellt wo schneller abgwicklet werde) und höcheri Koste (wöll alli Abglehnte bes vore Europäische Grichtshof gönd)
Das isch im testbetrieb ja nid de fall gsi, aber falls es passiert denn gömmer halt nomol an d urne. Das isch nid in stei gmeisslet und unveränderbar.
>Wenn d "Operation Libero" sogar deför esch und du nid stutzig wirsch, denn lauft öppis falsch met der.
Genauso sind die konservative innerschwiizer kanton defür. Me chan für s gliiche sii und anderi motivatione haaa. Operation libero sind halt defür will sie glaube dass d wirtschaftsmigrante so schneller chönne integriert werde, was natürlich so realitätsfrömd isch wie de rescht vo ihrer weltaschauig. Ich bin defür wills weniger choschtet und sie sich schneller wieder sölle verpisse wenn sie abglehnt werde.
>>76167093
ok so, rich pays for RBI through tax, some of the wealth is therefore redistributed, are you arguing that poorfags wont spend the freemoneys ? ofc economy will go up if there is more money being spent instead of hoarded
>>76175689
Two adult rattos with five ratto children, and sixth in the way, count that up for yourself.
We recently got gibmedats for every second and other children, and turds are already spending that money on booze and shit & planning making more turds for bigger gibs
Unless you're 100% sure you have no retards and welfare nobles in your homeland, UBI will fuck your shit up faster than you can spell "Dindu nuffin"
>>76165073
Even if they manage to load it right, the guy kneeling next to the RPG will likely get wrecked by back blast.
>>76169089
example : for everyone basic health insurance is mandatory and it costs 400fr a month, then, depending where you live, housing is expensive as fuck, for instance, in geneva 20-25m2 is about 1k 1.2k chf. whereas in yverdon a mate has a place 85m2 for 1400fr. Only social housing costs like nothing for gibme's.
Point is, 1500 isnt enough, 2000 is barely enough and 2500 is good because it leaves you leeway to be free to do what you want.
>>76177697
>>76177697
>Und wenn sie voll sind, denn chömets in zivilschutz alage.
Das esch es Unfahmezentrum vom Bund wieni gseit han. Und es het ned unendlich vo dene, es het au ned unendlich Zivilschutzalage.
>In dem referendum gohts nid um e reduktion vod e azahl ""flüchtling""
Doch genau e so esches vode Sommaruga verchauft worde.
>"Schnelleri Verfahre heisst weniger Flüchtling"
t. Sommaruga
>also sich die abglehnte ""flüchtling"" schneller wieder sölle verpisse
Pic relativiert. 50% vo de Abglehnte sind untertaucht. Und wie du ja weisch, werde 50% vode Aträg agno.
>aber falls es passiert denn gömmer halt nomol an d urne
Wenn de Scheiss mol hesch denn got das ned so schnell. Muesch unterschrifte sammle (1 Johr), denne werds agluegt vom Parlament, etc. (ca. halbs Johr), denn werd es Abstimmungstermin festgleit und nach de Abstimmig wirds au nid sofort umgsetzt.
Sogar d'Flüchtlingshilf fiiret de Entscheid haha.
>>76172495
Asylum rework allows people who were told to gtfo to demand a tax payer funded lawyer to fight the no verdict. It's absolute cancer and we will pay for it.
