The shuttle has been grounded for like a decade.
We don't even have a solution to go to the """"""""International Space Station""""""""""
Are we waiting for a Chinese Solution? And Indian Solution? A fucking North Korean Solution? What the fuck!!!!!
Bump does anyone know what we will get our shit together?
I talked to a guy who is running simulations at MSFC for the SLS yesterday. The initial unmanned launch is supposed to be 30 months away.
>>76141656
>The shuttle has been grounded for like a decade.
It was getting very old, and wasn't that economical in the least.
>We don't even have a solution to go to the """"""""International Space Station""""""""""
>Implying ULA and SpaySex doesn't exist
>Implying that the ISS wasn't an international effort despite the USA doing most of it
>Not knowing anything about NASA's developing systems
warp drive soon senpai
>>76141656
Uuuuh spacex kind of made history recently by recovering a first stage of a rocket that delivered a payload. And then again a few months later by landing one on a barge. Of course you don't hear about this in the news because the Jews will suppress all evidence that capitalism actually works.
>>76141656
The shuttle was a disaster that didn't deliver on it's goals and killed more astronauts than any other spacecraft.
SLS is currently under construction and SpaceX, Orbital, and Boeing are working to resupply and soon ferry crew to the ISS.
Meanwhile we're doing great things with unmanned probes and rovers.
>>76143509
Eh.
It's mostly because election news sells better, and "Rocket successfully lands on barge" isn't as cool to average joes as "Space shuttle re enters at mach 25 and lands like a plane," which is what people are used to.
>>76143633
To be fair to the shuttle, the initial goals were completely ridiculous. They were promising that it was going to make NASA profitable, have a turnaround time much lower than could be reasonably expected, and personally blow every US taxpayer upon landing. What it managed to achieve was still respectable.
>>76143225
Initial. Unmanned. 30 months. Where is JFK??
>>76143250
The trope of shoddy Russian work hit us in the face and we did what exactly?
>>76143360
This is /pol/ not /x/ warp drive not soon. Reality bites and it is now.
>>76143509
babby's first steps. The USSR sent several TV Cams to Venus and yielded video. Give me a break.
>>76141656
Man shut your bitch ass up
You know where Russia launches their old ass three seat Soviet ship from? Kazakhstan?
That's right Mighty Russia can't even launch from within their own borders.
In the US we have TWO brand new crew vehicles under development, Dragon and Orion which can hold 6 or 7 people
By the end of the decade we will make Russia look like the 1960's space program that it is
>>76141656
we're going private. it'll make it more sustainable in the long run.
Shit like this depresses me. Why are you wasting money on niggers livelihoods when you could already put a man in Mars.
Hopefully trumps solves this shit
>>76143875
That's neat and all but being able to cheaply put satellites in orbit does way more for society then learning about weather patterns on Venus.
>>76141656
Pay the fuck attention, nigger
>>76143875
>The trope of shoddy Russian work hit us in the face and we did what exactly?
Elaborate.
>babby's first steps. The USSR sent several TV Cams to Venus and yielded video. Give me a break.
Those two are not even remotely comparable. The US sent a bunch of rovers to mars, men to the moon, spacecraft to space and back, and a whole bunch of other shit. Spacex's recent landing was the first time a private company managed to make a working reusable launch vehicle.
I get the feeling that you don't know much about the subject.
Reminder that this motherfucker was only intended to last 90 days, and is still rocking after over 12 years.
>>76141656
The American space program is going to be the private sector.
Government does the heavy lifting, breaks the ground, inspires a generation, then allows private industry to take over.
That's American as fuck.
I think you are doing a good job in space Americunt.
>>76143875
>babby's first steps. The USSR sent several TV Cams to Venus and yielded video. Give me a break.
If you think that was a significant accomplishment then you're completely fucking retarded.
Anybody could have done that way sooner but they didn't because they knew Venus' atmosphere would destroy whatever they threw at it within a day.
Wanna guess what fucking happened to russia's lander?
>>76141656
Obligatory reply.
>>76144247
>Wanna guess what fucking happened to russia's lander?
Western tricks?
Jingoist amerifats?
CIA false flagging?
Ukranian propaganda?
Unsubstantiated claims?
>>76144197
This. I'm completely against the government funding NASA, not because I think space exploration is a waste of time, but because I believe the private sector can do a way better job at it.
>>76144328
Not quite.
It was summarily destroyed by Venus' atmosphere shortly after it shit out a few images, wasting millions.
>>76142325
We turned it over to the private sector who, while engaged in experimentation our government wouldn't touch, can do it fourteen times cheaper and still turn a profit.
We're the only space program with its shit together.
>>76144402
From what I've read, it was expected to do that anyways. I vaguely remember something about it landing on its own lenscap or something, making the soil tester useless.
Also forgot my pic for my last post.
>>76144402
They also took like a dozen tries to get it right. Several of them didn't even last long enough to send anything back, and the one that did wasn't able to get a surface sample because it's ejected lens cap landed in front of the soil sampler.
>>76143931
> Russia launches
> US we have TWO brand new crew vehicles under development
I'm the AMERICAN here. Fuck fuck fuck fuck. I don't care if you are blind but you fucking wrote that and it is clear as day.
>>76143945
> going private
There is no money in this kind of exploration. It is the only way humans will survive but the profit horizon is too far off. Only government funding makes sense.
>>76143986
It depresses me too. Mexico has resources though, and loves fireworks. You are moments from glory.
>>76144043
> cheaply put satellites in orbit
Not in the CURRENT YEAR we do not.
We have lost our leadershitp.
WE HAVE LOST OUR LEADERSHIP.
LOST
OUR
LEAD
ER
SHIP
:'(
>>76144655
>There is no money in this kind of exploration.
>Implying modern communications want to go back to land based systems like long lines
>Implying the government doesn't use private contractors to launch payloads
>Not in the CURRENT YEAR we do not.
>(insert repetitive and vertical ALLCAPS)
At this point, you're barely above putting your fingers in your ears and yelling LALALALALALALALALA
Proton ass for your troubles.
>>76144655
>hes
>> US we have TWO brand new crew vehicles under development
>Going to be cancelled in upcoming budget proposal.
>IT'S OK GUYS, WE STILL HAVE THE *ABILITY* TO DEVELOP THEM!
>>76144606
>From what I've read, it was expected to do that anyways.
Yes, it was.
They literally designed it to last as long as possible knowing it fucking couldn't. Every space agency worth a shit just designed tools that could get the same data from orbit but those plucky russians decided to just throw money at the problem until it shit out data for 1 hours then died.
>>76144623
Yeah they did a lot of stuff by trial and error. Even their human launches were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck.
Pic related. One of the (if not THE) worst vehicles to ever launch a human into orbit.
>>76145020
>Yeah they did a lot of stuff by trial and error. Even their human launches were just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what stuck.
It works.
You gotta give credit where it is due. Those Ruskies have some huge balls.
>>76145020
>One of the (if not THE) worst vehicles to ever launch a human into orbit.
That prize goes to Soyuz 1.
It could arguably have gone to Apollo One, but that didn't even make it off the launchpad.
>>76141656
We have a company with 106 consecutive successful satellite launchest set to launch humans in 2017. We have another space launch company that has landed 3 rockets on a barge in the middle of the ocean. Gtfo you don't know shit.
>>source: work for one of these companies
>>76145199
Ironically enough, the guy that was killed by soyuz 1 was originally supposed to pilot Vostok 1 but even those ruskies thought it was too risky to use one of their better pilots.
Vostok 1 was so shitty that even the ruskies were unsure about it.
Apollo 1's only problem was its retarded door handles.
if we were able bring things into space at drastically cheaper costs, how would it affect the industry?
would we start mining asteroids, building moonbases and space stations right away?
>>76145518
Apollo one had many problems besides the overly complicated door. The wiring was shoddy, and there wasn't much attention paid to fireproofing. It's been awhile since I've read about it, but it had a big pile of problems that ended in three people dying.
Demoshits want to destroy the country and what better way to do that then to destroy the biggest symbol that we have proving we are better than every other country on earth?
Fuck half of NASA's employee's have left to other countries and corporations just do they can work on real science again as opposed to sitting with their thumbs up their asses
I guarantee when Trump is president he will reallocate the budget to where 1% of our annual national budget goes to NASA
>>76144247
You're talking to a pinko, you do k ow they're brainwashed right?
>>76145362
Look, I admire wee space companies, you're cute as buttons.
I was talking about supplying the International Space Station. If you cannot do that, fuck off. Because the ISS is not months off, it is in orbit.
At the moment only Russia can supply it. Please feel me here, only the Russians can supply the ISS and we have 30 month baby steps as a plan. Fuck me sideways.
>>76145801
Your head is up your ass.
SpaceX has been resupplying the ISS for quite awhile now.
Now, you're handwaving everything you disagree with as "baby steps." Come back when you know shit about what you're talking about, because you clearly don't care about learning from here.
>>76141656
space shuttle was a dumb idea from the start.
>be space plane
>attach massive amounts of weight onto your SPACE ship to make it fly around in atmosphere, which does not occur in space.
>sacrifice all notion of launch abort systems and safety because you can't fit them onto your stupid plane
>kill an average of one person every 10 flights because of it
>cripple your payload because you want to use one fancy engine at both sea level and in space
>cripple your payload because everything has to fit into your stupid plane
>take ten times as many missions to carry shit to space as a saturn v
I fucking hate the space shuttle. We could have done so much just sticking with the simple stack of rockets design and a command service modules on top instead of fucking with memeplanes.
>>76145801
Do you even fucking know what SLS is for?
Protip: it's not for the fucking ISS
>>76146036
>>sacrifice all notion of launch abort systems and safety because you can't fit them onto your stupid plane
Columbia had ejection seats at some points in its life, and after challenger, the shuttles had this pole thing you stuck out the door.
The jury is still out on how useful either of those would have been.
>>76143931
They already look like the 1960s desu
They always did, they still use Soyuz rockets, shit-tier lifting capacity and only good for ferrying 3 people up. If only if only they still used Energia...
>>76146202
>The hardware changes required to the orbiters enable the flight crew to equalize the pressurized crew compartment with the outside pressure via the depressurization valve opened by pyrotechnics in the crew compartment aft bulkhead that would be manually activated by a flight crew member in the middeck of the crew compartment; pyrotechnically jettison the crew ingress/egress side hatch manually in the middeck of the crew compartment; and bail out from the middeck through the ingress/egress side hatch opening after manually deploying the escape pole through, outside and down from the side hatch opening. One by one, each flight crew member attaches a lanyard hook assembly, which surrounds the deployed escape pole, to his or her parachute harness and egresses through the side hatch opening. Attached to the escape pole, the crew member slides down the pole and off the end. The escape pole provides each crew member with a trajectory that takes the crew member below the orbiter's left wing.
Holy fuck that's hilariously retarded.
I bet the columbia crew was like
>should we use the pole
>no lets just die with dignity instead of dying like retards
>>76145801
>>76144404
>Here.
>>76145934
Is right, he's being more specific about what I was saying.
They can't afford shuttles because tyrone shoes are expensibe
>you'll live to see casual space travel
>>76146921
this upsets me greatly every time I see it
