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this guy's a fucking joke
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>>76085270
How is so? Just because an individual is very good at something and happens to be muslim does that mean that the entire muslim community all of a sudden are heroes of sports?

Profiling.
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>>76085270
> Muhammad Ali
One person.
> Heroes
Several people
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>>76085270
And yet he will be the President.

Really makes you think, huh?
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>>76085270
>reddit will defend this
(((Trump)))
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So it's religion first. That's the problem
You don't get it.
People need to recognize their
> Ideological privilege
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>>76085270
Muhammad Ali hasn't been relevant in sports for decades.

Sage
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>>76085270
>boxers
>heroes

Fucking hell, Ameritards. Boxers are just thugs who get paid to beat other niggers up. They do what every other dindu does, they just get paid because the white man loves his gladiatorial games.
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>>76085418
>>76085419
>google
>Muslim NFL players
>Muslim NBA players
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>>76085419
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sportspeople

>shaq
>kareem
>rasheed wallace
>mike tyson
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>>76085270
In relation to integration, he said: "We ... don't want to be forced to integrate. Integration is wrong. We don't want to live with the white man; that's all ... No intelligent black man or black woman in his or her right black mind wants white boys and white girls coming to their homes to marry their black sons and daughters...Indeed, Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not "righteous".

muhammad ali was a muslim all right
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>>76085529
Yeah, but even back in Roman days we glorified gladiators who did really well.
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>>76085270
>Mohammed Ali
>Muslim

Give me a break, the guy converted to Islam the same way that coons like Louis Farrhakan did. They aren't real Islamics. They'd get beheaded by ISIS just the same.
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>Malcom X tier muslims
>even close to the same thing.
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>>76085561
>>76085640
Das just niggers getting into money by doing black stuff and then deciding that blacks are the chosen race and thus coverting to "Islam". None of them are Arabs, or born Muslims. They just convert with a we wuz kangs mentality.
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>>76085529
you realize it started out as a sport for white people, right?
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>>76085270
glad this nigger muslim coward is dead and hope you die today OP.
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>>76085640
Mike Tyson endorsed Trump
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>>76085805
wtf are you talking about

they are literally muslims. they worship allah and practice the religion of islam. you dont get to decide who is and isn't a muslim, dude
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>>76085561
> hoop monkeys
> padded hand egg hug time
> sports
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Says you
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>>76085805
No, they covert because they see the religion of truth.

Mashallah. Brother Ali is in Jannat right now
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>>76085486
when the person is good, oh look at that strong black muslim!

when they blow themselves up and kill people, dont bring race and religion into this!
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>>76086069
>baah, scary brown people!
do some math and tell me what percentage of the world population of muslims has committed terrorist attacks this year?
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>>76085784
is that porn?
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>>76085908
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az-vWh_VcuI
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>>76085908
>sweden
>literally getting cucked by hoop monkeys
Nigga do you even lift?
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>>76085561
Those sports are known primarily for having skilled people such as the Blacks. I don't know of any Muslim members who are good at the sport, nor am I thinking of the Muslims when I think of good players for both of those sports.

If we are talking about Terrorist activities, I think of the Muslims.
That's the only time.
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>>76085270
Trump just knew Ali by the name Ali's mama gave him. Cashus Clay.
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>>76085784
>this is what he actually believes
>aren't real Islamics
>but ISIS is
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>>76086293

Boz just hunted em down and dropped em.

Football season when?

A whole summer away?
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>>76085907
Nation of Islam
Started by blacks in America.
Yes I know not all of them follow that and follow traditional Islam but many of them are NOI
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>>76086348
>getting this BTFO
>being this cuck'd
I don't even need to mention normal football do I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sportspeople#Association_football
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That looks like the mistake that will end his campaign. How can anyone vote for him now? Mr Sanders has not made any such mishaps on twitter.
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>>76086286
yes
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>>76086069
Pugilists are Haram.
They fight to glorify themselves not ulllluh
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>>76085270
>Nation of Islam is a muslim organization in any real sense of the word.
Congratulations retard.
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>>76085431
Nope.
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>>76085270
trump is the most stupid man in the US
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>>76086347

You elected a hoop monkey as leader of your republic - twice.
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>>76086761

k
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Who the hell goes around Trump's twitter and digs and digs and digs and screenshots everything?
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>>76086761
You are the brownest man in France
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>>76086813
>elected
>believing in elections
Literally a cuck to everyonw
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>>76086430

It's well documentated that everything including courts, money, disputes in the areas that IS controls are run how sharia dictates to the letter. Hell even the way they kill people is done in line with what is stated in the Quran I.E striking at the neck and feet, crucifixitions etc. IS follow the religion the closest to how it is dictated in the Quran and the Hadiths, prove us wrong.
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NoI is explicitly not Islam
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ali only claimed to be muslim in order to avoid the vietnam war, he does not give two shits about alah
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>>76086261
Don't don't foget to throw in the number of Muslims that condone the terrorist attacks and also the number of Muslims that feel anger or hatred towards the west last year.
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>>76085561
>People playing on team sports for money
>That having anything to do with heroism

Also after looking at this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sportspeople

I knew nobody aside from Tyson, Ali and Shaq.
Literally a whole bunch of nobodies.

>Trying this hard
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>>76087149
ali converted to sunni islam
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>>76085270
>nation of islam
>real muslims
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>>76087305
>tyson
>ali
>shaq
>all household names
>Nobodies
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>>76085270
If there's one organization that deserves the WE WUZ KANGS moniker it's the Nation of Islam. All of these degenerate retards would be beheaded in real muslim countries.
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>>76087075

As if most of Amerifats wouldn't have voted him into office even if you had a say in the matter.
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>>76087137
>countless scholars and terrorism experts say ISIS isn't Islamic
>still says this
See: >pic related
>not allowed to burn people
>not allowed to kill emassariess ,diplomats, journalists
>a caliph is elected similar to a Roman Emperor
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/

Literally BTFO
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He wasn't a proper Muslim though. He was a convert, not a middle east Muslim. I mean, there's obviously a huge difference, isn't there?
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>>76087324
no he didnt. american "islam" of malcom x and that shit is not real islam. Just like nation of Islam is an islamic sect. it is not sunni nor shia
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>>76085270
That's it, I'm a #hillarymissile now
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>>76087566
>this cuck is still replying
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>>76087706
>thinking muslims are all middle eastern
>majority are south east Asian
Yes he was, see his biography.
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>>76085561
Shaq is muslim? WTF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Muslims#Basketball
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>>76085561

>A temporary ban on Muslims entering the US would be racist, even though the policy refers to religion
>All of our "Muslim" "sports heroes" don't belong to the race of people supposedly targeted by a ban on entering the US
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>>76087621
It's church dipshit, it's a fucking church. Kek.
Something is wrong with those that can't tell fantasy from reality.
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>>76087784

Precisely what I was thinking.
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>>76087906
>implying I said the word "racist"
>implying I even mentioned that
>this cuck'd kneejerk reaction
Regardless of that, I'll respond to your autism. A ban is unconstitutional anyway

>implying you have ever read the Constitution or any supreme court case
t. consitutional law student
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>>76087843
>thinking muslims are all middle eastern
Never said or implied that.

Anyways, what I obviously met was he wasn't raised Muslim, and to say NOI is proper muslim is completely retarded.
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>>76087848
Islam hit the black community hard during the black panther days, it has done the same to the prison community by providing drugs, weapons and money to its adherents.

I don't think people really understand just how pervasive islam really is.
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>>76085968
>f(l)ag
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>>76085270

RIP Ali
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>>76088055
It's in the US code That the President of the US can institute a temporary stop to all people from a group that could be a threat to the country. It's all there boobala
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>>76085270

I thought he was just a random nog

maybe Trump also thinks black africans aren't muslim
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>>76088090
He's Sunni Muslim, you literally are getting BTFO here
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>>76085270
Muhammad Ali cut ties with the Nation of Islam because he realized he was being used by a manipulative group of dissident niggers who stood for nothing but grabbing power.
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>>76085270
Followers of Nation of Islam are not considered muslim by the great majority of muslims.
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>>76087848
A lot of blacks are muslims. It's like kids rebelling against their Christian parents by being a Buddhist/atheist/whatever. In this case white people in general are the parents.

It's even more amusing since the real muslims enslaved them for centuries and continue to do so in much of the Middle East and Africa.
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>>76088222
You're a fuckin idiot. No BTFO happening what so ever, shit just completely goes over your head.
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>>76087784
you have nigger president
>>76088019
your country is full of shitskins

you're both cucks
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>>76087621
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>>76086430
They really aren't, everything they preached was heresy. It was more a cross between Voodoo and new age religion than Islam.
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>>76088116
Literally the religion of thugs.
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>>76085561
>apehoop
>the most successful Muslim football player is also the most plagued injury prone nigga ever from the pats
Come on
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>>76085270

this is going viral

chump chumped himself again
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>>76088210
Exactly where does it say that?

See Magnuson Act, Perez v. Sharp & SCOTUS Loving v. Virginia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
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>>76088340

This is all true; but at least we don't live in the fucking Czech Republic.
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>>76088303
See OP
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Trump probably just forgot about Muhammad Ali. Understandable, I forget he exists unless his name is somewhere I can see. Hell, the only other sports heroes I can rattle off the top of my head is Hulk Hogan, Michael Phelps, Lance Armstrong, and John Cena.
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>>76085270
Obama admits Mike Tyson is a hero.

A Muslim Hero endorsed Trump

because Obama treats him like an animal
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>Muhammad Ali is dead at 74!
Why does he sound elated
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>>76085640
Shaq is a Muslim?
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>>76086430
>do everything in the holy book
>NOT REAL MUSLIMS
Kikes could've come up with a better meme, desu.
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Nation of Islam isn't Islam.

It's a crazy Yakub-worshipping cult.

Just like Mormons aren't Christians.
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>>76088384
>literally trying to pass trash to a law student
>>>/trash/
Again see >>76087621

http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/

Also see the sticky, you clearly are new here.
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>>76088630
See >>76087621
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>>76088055

>A ban is unconstitutional anyway

Feel free to cite at any time the portion of the Constitution that guarantees rights to immigrants to the US (e.g., non-citizens)
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>>76087201
>the number of Muslims that feel anger or hatred towards the west last year.
oh gee, i wonder what they could possibly hate us for...
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>>76088668

At one point IE was actually faster than Chrome for HTML5
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RIP in peace Mike Tyson, gone too soon :/
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>>76088740
>what is 14th Amendment
Anyone on US soil is protected by the Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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>>76086261
Nigger, you do the math an tell us the percentage of terrorist attacks done by muslims.
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>>76089009

>Anyone on US soil is protected by the Constitution.

If you ban a certain group from entering the US, they are, by definition, not on US soil
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>>76085270

> Individual Moslims can show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Crown; all know how to die.

- Winston Churchill, "The River War"

> But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

- also Winston Churchill, "The River War"
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It will only become more obvious as the campaign rolls on. Landslide in November.
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>>76089017
i'm not the one trying to claim that there are a statistically significant number of muslims that are terrorists
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>>76089017
This. OP BTFO by Mexico. Might as well kys.
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>>76088497
Us code 1182 inadmissible aliens
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>>76089081
Once they are on US soil they have equal rights.
Again see the SCOTUS case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
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>>76088620
Not exactly.
>O'Neal was raised by a Baptist mother and a Muslim stepfather.[225] Both Robin Wright in her book Rock the Casbah as well as the Los Angeles Times have identified O'Neal as a Muslim.[226][227][228] However, O'Neal has said, "I'm Muslim, I'm Jewish, I'm Buddhist, I'm everybody 'cause I'm a people person."[229]

I think I recall seeing a big tattoo of a cross on his body during a game once
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>>76085270
I can name two people who converted to Islam that were good at sports. Muhammed Ali, and Kareem Abdul jabar. That's nothing.
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>>76089313

Again, I'm not seeing how this applies to a ban on a certain group of people, who are not currently in the US, from entering the US.
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>>76088497
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
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>Muslims are our sports heroes
this implies that it is their main characteristic, that Muslims are among the very best sportsmen in the US.
Mohammad Ali being a based asskicker doesn't mean that every single Muslim is.

This is why I LOVE Trump, he recognizes the value of the individual.
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>>76089313
True, but if they come here illegally then you have a new justification for kicking them out. So, if we bar them from coming here legally and they still do so then you can remove them for being here illegally.
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>>76088608
>treats him like an animal

the man literally bites pieces of flesh off of people without warning

he is basically a pit bull with thumbs
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>>76085907
>you dont get to decide who is and isn't a muslim, dude

Neither do they. Really makes you think
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>>76085561
American negroes calling themselves muslims is kinda like Jersey girls calling themselves christians.
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>>76088611
because you misinterpret the exclamation point
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>>76089490
You said what I was thinking countryman
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>>76089483
>being this dumb
>can't even read scotus cases
We'll I'll dumb it down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education

>We repeat and again reaffirm that neither a State nor the Federal Government can constitutionally force a person "to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion." Neither can constitutionally pass laws or impose requirements which aid all religions as against non-believers, and neither can aid those religions based on a belief in the existence of God as against those religions founded on different beliefs.
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>>76089151
You receive the treatment that unrepentant savages are wont to receive. Nothing more, nothing less.

You are fucked in this life, and the next, forever. You could have been anything, even a liar. But you had to be arrogant.
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>>76089490
Look at this guy on trump's left. He's creaming his pants being so near the god king.
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>>76089313
That's why you keep the possible threats out. It's not so hard to understand. The US isn't obligated to be a immigrant catch all, ffs
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Not an argument
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>>76089623

What bearing does the constitution have on non-citizens?
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>>76089570
Nation of Islam is basically a gang that gets tax breaks and sells bean pies instead of crack
It's no more Islamic than the Boston Celtics are Irish
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>>76089623

Once again, and for the last time, none of this applies to people who are not citizens of the United States and are not on United States soil.
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>>76089251
>>76089484
Now show me what clause they can be denied under

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Here's the part on terrorism.

(B) Terrorist activities

>(i) In generalAny alien who—

>(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;
You need to have engaged in terrorism

>(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

>(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

>(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

>(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

>(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

>(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

>(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

>(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,
is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.
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>>76089505
But they don't come here illegally, most do it legally
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>>76089151
What percent of muslims think it's good to kill somebody for leaving islam?
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>>76089570
>this much damage control
Negros were originally Islamic anyways.
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>>76089709
>Ben Franklin quote on security vs freedom
Not an argument
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>>76089929
>Negros were originally Islamic

/his/ here

Youre a fucking retard lel
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>>76089490
>that triggered red haired bitch in the background
Also, is it me or does Donald glow?
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>>76089313
>Once they are on US soil they have equal rights
Yeah but AIRPORTS ARENT OFFICIAL US SOIL (YES EVEN WHEN THEYRE ON US SOIL DUMBASS)

Educate yourself
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>>76085270
>Black people
>Proper Muslims
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>>76086286
yeah
malia khalif or someone
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>>76089812
The Constitution applies to everyone on US soil, not just citizens.

Within U.S. territory, non-citizens have rights because of the 14th Amendment, which declares “nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

>14th Amendment
>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

>nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
>any person
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>>76089834
No it does. Religious tests are forbidden. Once someone gets off that place, boat, etc.. they are on US soil
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>>76089994
>what is songhai, mali, ghana
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>>76090022
And they get a trial then retard see >>76089835
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>>76090248
>what is Ethiopia, Great ZImbabwe, Kongo, Ashanti, Oyo

Please stop, you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about
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>>76090141

>He thinks embassies are US soil
>He thinks airports are US soil
>He thinks military bases are US soil

Tell me exactly how they'll ever be on US soil if they can't immigrate to it in the first place
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>>76089865
Correct. The ones who are here can stay. However if you barred muslim immigration, then the ones coming over would no longer be coming over legally.
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>>76090248
>KANGdoms that were conquered by arabs
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>>76089980
all immigrants were to pass a literacy test. In 1917, under the Wilson administration, Congress passed the first comprehensive immigration act which included a literacy test requirement.
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>>76085270
That's from a year ago you fucking jackass
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>>76085907
negros convert to islam to piss off whitey, you're crazy to think these people actually worship that nigga mohamad
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>>76087621
It is illegal for a muslim to declare someone a disbeliever?

>T-they're not real muslims!

Ayyy lmao
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>>76090379
See >>76089835

They get on a boat and land on US soil? LOL retard.
>implying you actually study law

>>76090385
Except you can't do that, you can only ban immigration for specific purposes on the reason they are criminals. See >>76089835

>>76090387
>kangdoms that were Arab client states
>conquered by other negros from East Africa
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>>76090109
>>76086286
Mia Khalifa, she of course received death threats
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>>76090191

>Once someone gets off that place, boat, etc. they are on US soil

Which emphasizes the need for more effective border security, more expansive preclearance programs at foreign ports, etc.

I'm not arguing with your interpretation of the 14th and related cases as they are up for debate but simply having a law stating that a certain group of people cannot enter the US does not prima facie violate those.

If a Mexican, for example, is standing on the other side of the border wall and I tell him we have a law stating that Mexicans cannot enter the US, there's nothing wrong with that, he's not on US soil. If he's on the American side of the wall, that's a different matter. Same for Muslims at foreign ports versus Muslims in the US.
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>>76090438
>literary test
Please tell me you are just in high-school and your teacher hasn't gotten to he part where literary tests were banned.

You possibly cannot be this retarded
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>>76090577
Yes, as long as they haven't broken any laws
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>>76085784
does anyone have the better quality version?
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>>76085418
So... Not all muslims are terrorists, huh?
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>>76088254

bc that guy who started it , made himself some kind of prophet alijah or something .
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>>76090589

Then they get deported for coming illegally

If immigrating to the US was as easy as going there then demanding you stay everyone would do it
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>>76085270
i wonder who could win in a fight between Cassius Clay vs Muhammad Ali
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>>76085270
>praising one guy in particular
>praising an entire religion

it's as if you're too dumb to notice the difference

don't forget to tell your wife's boyfriend to vote for bernie
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>>76089684
He is an arrogant cuck that cant see through his circlejerk sjw bullshit

Bet he is in debt for the loan for his african studies degree
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>>76089490
>This is why I LOVE Trump, he recognizes the value of the individual.

Like here for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYMFkFgPzk
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>>76090647
>interpretation of the 14th amendment
You are literally doing what liberals do with the 2nd amendment
>b-but dats just ur interpretation

We already have tons of laws on immigration. Most mexicans come here legally, and most illegal immigration is people overstaying their visa so your "boarder security" is flawed.

Also there cannot be laws excluding immigrants, see repeal of the Chinese Exclusion Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
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>ITT: Arrogant law student getting BTFO on history, law and religion and who probably is on a H1B visa trying to shill for muzzies

It was fun for a while but it got repetitive. Nice ride lads. Have a good day.
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>>76090712
That's a mockery of faith, you're not a disbeliever because you broke a law
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>>76090801
Most immigrants do not come here illegally, they come here legally on visas and overstay those visas.

People come here for jobs and opportunities, it's not Europe where you get free gibsmedat, so nobody is going to come here to not work.
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Other than Shaquille O'Neal and Muhammad Ali, I can't think of any American sports heroes who are muslims.
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>>76085270
changes name and religion to doge draft
>hero
>icon
>american
rope-a-nope.
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>>76088725
Too bad the Quran tells muslim to follow the most recent word of god and the prophet.
Which is usually the most violent and war mongering ones, because being the false prophet that mohammed was, he got bitter at the end of his life.
So all this bullshit you posted is before the ones that tell you to convert the world by force.

You obviously don't know anything about Islam. It is not like other religions, no other religion is this political and expansive. Faggot.
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>>76085640

dumb coons that have been preyed on and leeched off by the 'Nation of Islam' cult.

not the sandniggers that both trump, and obama, were referring to.
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>>76090741
But nobody says all Muslims are terrorists. But Obama might as well say they are, along with "our criminals are black".
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>>76090589
You can do that because the law can be changed. People have done so for literacy tests. I think it would be reasonable to ban muslim immigration because muslims as a whole have beliefs that are incompatible with western values. Oftentimes violence follows muslims as islamic ideology spreads (See the buudhists of Myanmar) and it leads to radicalization rather than moderation.

Although current law may not allow it, I think it would be the morally and pragmatically correct decision to ban muslim immigration.

If the law isn't serving this country well, it should be changed.
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>>76090997

Then they get deported for being overstayers
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>>76085270
Nation of Islam doesn't count
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>>76090965
If you deny a certain laws or parts of the quran you're a disbeliever and merely a pretender.

For example killing diplomats, journalists, peace workers in a time of war is breaking several laws on Islamic military law and you will be confronted about your violations of these laws if you deny it and continue breaking the law you are basically a pretender and a disbeliever.
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>>76090741
Evidently not.

Islam still justifies the use of violence against non-muslims. That doesn't mean every muslim use violence or care about jihad.

But why do books and manuals that teach you how to make home made explosives put you on an FBI list? They're just books, ain't it?
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>>76090648
Not an argument
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>>76089835
The temporary travel ban and issuance of visas on Non Us Citizens from certain countries that have known terrorist and intent to do harm to the US.
It won't need congressional approval

the Immigration and Nationality Act, which gives the president authority to suspend the entry of any and all aliens deemed “detrimental” to U.S. interests.

“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate,” the 1952 law states.
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>>76091064
>But nobody says all Muslims are terrorists
/pol/ say it all the time tho
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>>76085270

Not sure what you're trying to say here. It's getting fucking difficult to even parse what liberals are trying to imply. Their brains are so fried at this point they cannot even form a coherent point. Fucking subhuman liberals all deserve brutal rape and torture and a horrible death.
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>>76085270
he meant current stars and ali wasnt a legit mudslime, he was an american who converted to dodge the draft
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>>76089827
>Nation of Islam is basically a gang that gets tax breaks and sells bean pies instead of crack
>It's no more Islamic than the Boston Celtics are Irish

That's it? That's fucking stupid, you could be selling far more shit.
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>>76091044
There is just one Quran, no recent version or old version.

You can't convert someone by force, if it were that way I could force everyone to become a liberal. You see the lack of logic in this? No amount of force is going to change someone's beliefs that has to come from free will.

I study law and also have studied the history of Islam and their laws.

You literally are a fucking retard

Again see >>76087621
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>>76087484
All fake muslims that converted when they were in there 30s or 40s and show no signs of being practising.
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>>76091231
No they don't. Most terrorists are Muslims. That's what people say, and that's what's true.
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>>76091231
The capability is there, I agree.
It's because of the nutty shit you believe in. It's a crazy Church that people kill their own family members for.
> yeah sign me up
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>>76088254
>t. Felix Cuckström

If you are saying NOI isn't Islam then you're effectively saying that every derivative of any religion doesn't belong to its original ancestral roots.

NOI is mainly Sunni, it is Islam, the reason for its founding doesn't play any role whatsoever. Also there is Ahmadiyya, Sufi, Shia, Allevite.. etc.

All of those are Muslim by definition just as Protestants and Baptists are all Christians.
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>>76088055
You're about as much a constitutional law student as Obama is a constitutional law professor.

Also people far more intelligent than you have already determined that it is constitutional, which is why no one is bitching over it anymore.
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>>76091337

You convert people by force by turning the meek and killing the dissedents
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>>76091089
You cannot change the constitution.

>be reasonable to ban muslim immigration because muslims as a whole have beliefs that are incompatible with western values
See 1st Amendment

No your feelings do not matter here. Provide actual facts here. Please cite me a government source saying this.

>myanmar
Muslims being persecuted?

Again we live in the real world here.

The law will never allow it, since you cannot repeal the Constitution based on your feeling

>your rights end where my feelings begin
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>>76090741
>>76091231
My father taught me two things about Muslims

1. There are those who want Sharia now and will die for it (Terrorist)

2. Those who will wait for Sharia and abuse minority quotas and protective laws to gain influence and destroy the system

So yes not all Muslims are terrorist, but all Muslims are trash
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>>76085270
fuck this trump guy
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>>76091118
How exactly? All they would have to do is renew their visa.
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>>76085270
/pol/ will defend everything Trump does. He could make a complete 360 and moonwalk away and people would STILL defend it.
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>>76087621
>ad populum
Yet what the holy book says is aloud they do.
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>>76085270
>converted muslims
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>>76085270
Hide shill threads.
Ignore shill threads.
Do not reply to shill threads.
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>>76091199
>outdated laws
The new one is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1990
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>>76091337
>There is just one Quran, no recent version or old version.
You're not only chose a shit major, but you're also THIS FUCKING BRAINDED?
NO TEXT IS MORE RECENT THAN THE OTHER? THE WHOLE BOOK WAS WRITTEN IN AN INSTANT FAGGOT?

>You can't convert someone by force, if it were that way I could force everyone to become a liberal. You see the lack of logic in this? No amount of force is going to change someone's beliefs that has to come from free will.

>convert or die policy in muslim countries
>not the use of force
Fuck you
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>>76085784
>>76086286
>>76090109
>>76090621
She's actually Catholic, but her family disowned her.
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>>76091354
>wikipedia
>practicing muslims
Not an argument retard
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>>76085270
can someone please stop shitposting for a second and resbond to my question please please >>76090768
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>>76085687
I respect him for this. What is wrong with the statement?
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>>76089313
Damn you're a special kind of stupid.
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>>76091337
Mohammeds writings are contradictory, that's why he talks about late and early writings.

It is entirely possible to forcefully convert a group of people, history is full of examples, where are the cathars today?
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>>76091486
See >>76089835 & >>76090141


I explain the laws behind this.
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>>76085270
Isn't the Nation of Islam to Islam what the Church of Latter Day Saints is to Christianity?
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>>76091717
That's not how the Quran even works retard. There are no convert of die policies.

You must be new here, if you're going to parrot typical trash then goto >>>/trash/

This stuff can literally be BTFO with a google search.
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>>76091817
>cite law
>cite supreme court cases
>cite the Constitution
>hurr durr ur stupid

>>76091828
No they're not, where are you getting this trash?
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>>76091337
>I study law and also have studied the history of Islam and their laws.

So then why do you continue to deny the truth?

Islam has never gone through a Reformation, they're stuck in a culture that is 2000 years old and doesn't wish to adapt to modern day.
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>>76091713
Still doesn't change executive proclamation abilities.
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>>76089313
You are a special kind of stupid, so I'll dumb it down the best I can.

Is Mr. Allah snackbar, sitting in Saudi Arabia, who is trying to buy a plane ticket to New York, who has never been to the U.S. before, being unconstitutionally denied his """"""right"""""" to enter the United States?

I hope you enjoy your summer because by the looks of it, you'll be flunking out next semester.
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>>76090741
All muslims are terrorists.
Those who claim otherwise aren't muslims.
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>>76091562
Your asshole country doesn't simply renew visa
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>>76091525
Where do they have a right to immigrate here?

Why do they have to be government sources?

I as an individual cannot, but the congress, senate and state can. The constitution has been amended in the past as well. So that argument is rather null.

Buudhists in Myanmar say that muslims attack and persecute others and should they ever become the majority that they would destroy everyone else. I am trying to find the video, but it seems like it may have been removed.

I am not changing the constitution based on my feelings. I am saying we can ban immigration if we so choose and that muslims bring destruction so it would be wise to ban their immigration.
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>>76086348
baseball isnt the only sport on earth dipshit
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>>76091948
>That's not how it works, believe me. You're dumb, I'm not.
Ad hominens are not an argument.

>This stuff can literally be BTFO with a google search.
>Yes google is a respectable source, trust what jewgle says and not what you read on the Quran
This is how you sound.
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>>76092048
>deny the truth
What truth, your feelings.

>Islam has never gone through a Reformation
They never had to in the first place

>wish to adapt to modern day
>This is what he actually beleives

If you're referring to terrorism and typical newfag autism, then see pic related. Terrorism is simply a result of US foreign policy not Islam.

There are other threads about this.
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>>76092056
>your rights end where my feelings begin
That's not how Executive Orders work.
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>>76085784
trump will ban all muslims, converted or not, pledged allegiance to ISIS or otherwise.
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>>76091842
And you were demonstrably wrong.

Next
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>>76092159

Good
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>>76091562

>They don't come here illegally, they just overstay their visa
>Then they'll get deported for being overstayers
>lolno they would just renew it

Come on son

also

>conflating immigration and work visas

also

>implying muslims have a right to a work visa in the first place
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>>76092059
See: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

Here it is
>>76089835

You cannot be denied entry unless any of that applies to you.
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>>76091948
>There are no convert of die policies.

uran (8:38-39)-“Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”Translation from the Noble Quran

Quran (9:29)- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad narrated - hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion...".

Quran (9:5)"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..."Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, assalatandzakat. (See below). The Quran thus sanctions violence as a means of coercing religion.
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>>76092159
>go back to mexico
>get a new visa
>come back legally

>crime rates don't change because criminals don't follow the law
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>>76086286

One of the very best, even.
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>>76092176
Any sources for that claim?

Because actual government sources says otherwise
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-alnatour/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000.html
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>draft-dodging nigger famous for pummelling other niggers and converting to Islam is dead

I'm supposed to care.
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>>76085270
Ali quit the nation of Islam just like Malcom x did you faggot
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>>76092176
And here you go cuckold

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

>buddists say muslims attack them
>no credible sources for this
>literally stormfaggotry

Again look at the laws i posted
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>>76085640
>>76085270

>black people converting to some non-halal version of islam
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>>76092238
>jewgle
>what is cherrypicking
>what is strawman
See the sticky >>40489590
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>>76092318
No I cited the laws did you even read that. You can only be denied under these pretexts

>(i) In generalAny alien who—

>(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;
You need to have engaged in terrorism

>(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

>(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

>(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of—
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;

>(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

>(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

>(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

>(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or

>(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,
is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.
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>>76085908
I'm gonna have to agree with sweden here

american sports are little more than interracial cuckold pornography turned family entertainment
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>>76092326
>your rights end where my feelings begin
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>>76087621
Yeah, really nice citations there m8 you sure convinced me with these hot sources.
I'm #BehadingForBaghdadi now.
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>>76089490
>This is why I LOVE Trump

you faggot
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>>76092652

>the law can't be changed

t. law """"""student"""""
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>>76085640
Tyson isn't a mudslime, he went through a fucked up phase after his mick trainer died
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>>76092241
>In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

>"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."[23]
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>>76085270

>Muhammad Ali

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK HE'S DEAD?
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>>76092407
>literally cherrypicking
>posting verses about what to do during war and when someone breaks a peace treaty and attacks you

>copy and pasting from religionofpeace

No those verse do not mean that retard. 9:5 is about what to do with people who break peace treaties.

Source:
>This portion deals with the sanctity of treaties and lays down principles, rules and regulations which must be kept in view before breaking them, in case the other party does not observe them sincerely. 1 - 12
http://www.englishtafsir.com/Quran/9/index.html
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>>76092697
>http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
>http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
>http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
>http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/
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>>76092241
That image is fallacious. It is assuming that because one thing happens and then another thing happens, that the first caused the second. The sun rose this week and Muhammed Ali died so the sun clearly caused it.

Actually Islam has gone through reformations hence the presence of the hadiths and the development of sciences in the past (which was mostly just applying things taken from Greece, but still). However, the Mongols burned the Bagdahd library to the ground and the Muslims regressed away from science and fell apart.The only ones who even somewhat remained relevant were the Ottomans
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>>76092693

>I've run out of things arguments and wikipedia articles to copy paste so I'll post irrelevant idioms with no relevance to the discussion
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>>76092742
>implying the Constitution can be changed
>being this retarded

>what is 14th Amendment

>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

>ima change the laws cause it hurts my feelings
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>>76092804
Friday night.
He daid
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>>76092814
>he thinks those verses can't be easily misinterpreted
>he thinks his religion isn't in need of reform and doesn't engender terror
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>>76090882

>You are literally doing what liberals do with the 2nd amendment

That's fine, they are as entitled to interpret 2A as a collective right as I am to interpret 14A as for those who are resident non-citizens of the US (e.g., slaves). This is no different than what any judge is going to do.

If you can't defend your natural right to arm yourself as a means of self-defense other than pointing to your subjective interpretation of the Constitution, you deserve to have it taken from you. Just as if I can't reason why abandoning the idea of national sovereignty is pants-on-head retarded without pointing to my subjective interpretation of the Constitution, then I deserve to have idiots like you flood us with brown people until there's none of us left.

>We already have tons of laws on immigration. Most mexicans come here legally, and most illegal immigration is people overstaying their visa so your "boarder security" is flawed.

That doesn't change anything about what I said. Making a law stating that X group not already in the US is not permitted to enter the US is not the same as making a law stating that members of X group already in the US have to leave. There's absolutely nothing in the Constitution that says every single person on Earth is entitled to its protection. This is on top of the practical implications of what you're saying. If the religious test applies to people who are neither citizens of the US nor on US soil, does that mean we are obligated to uphold the rights of, for example, Christians and Jews in Muslim countries who face state persecution? I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a legal basis in that.

>Also there cannot be laws excluding immigrants, see repeal of the Chinese Exclusion Act

The Chinese Exclusion Act was repealed by legislation, not judicial review. Constitutional law students are supposed to know that doesn't have any standing on the constitutionality of the law.
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>>76085270
>exclamation marks

Is this guy a fucking child?
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>>76085437
Hitler was a weeaboo and the worst thing that ever happened to white nationalism.

Germany just fucking sucks. I fucking hate them so much. They ruin everything nice.
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>>76085270
>>76085270
/pol/ prolapse #35,752
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>>76092907
No that is false and complete trash. The first picture is also know as Operation Cyclone where America created modern day terrorist organizations as a proxy to fight America's enemies.

>Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen prior to and during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, from 1979 to 1989. The program leaned heavily towards supporting militant Islamic groups that were favored by the regime of Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq in neighboring Pakistan, rather than other, less ideological Afghan resistance groups that had also been fighting the Marxist-oriented Democratic Republic of Afghanistan regime since before the Soviet intervention.[1] Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken;[2] funding began with $20–$30 million per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million per year in 1987.[1] Funding continued after 1989 as the mujahideen battled the forces of Mohammad Najibullah's PDPA during the civil war in Afghanistan (1989–1992).[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

>muh reformations
Again no this would be laughed at by academia.

>Muslims regressed away from science and fell apart
No the Islamic Golden Age continued far after this

You clearly don't understand geopolitics, or law. The things in the middle east are recent events in Islam existing only after the end of WW2, where America literally invaded them to remain relevant

Again I have posted sources for my claims, you literally have no argument
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>>76085418
Please stop posting. You clearly have the critical thinking skills of a pigeon.
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>>76092928
>evidence from the Constitution
>laws
>facts
>logic
>reason
>ignores it all
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