"People who advocate gun-control are stupid. You shouldn't generalize all gun-owners based on the the actions of a few crazies."
>But anon, you generalize all muslims based on the actions of a few radicals. Isn't it the same thing?
Well, /pol/?
>>76001129
t. Muhammad bin-Swedecuck
rly made me think, that is all, thanks
>>76001129
gun ownership isn't a fucking religion which promotes awful ideas.
>>76001218
Yeah it does, doesn't it?
>ownership of a consumer good
vs
>belief system that promotes conquest
False equivalence. Your thread and logic are trash.
>>76001333
Yeah but this is about valid generalization. If you can't generalize all gun-owners, why can you generalize all muslims? Not all muslims are radical.
>>76001637
Guns promote violence. Also this isn't a false equivalence because they are both generalizations. Not every comparison is a false equivalence, burger-brain.
>>76001129
But you precious revenge on whitey can't happen without mass immigration.
The big bankers make a lot of money off of cheap labor (mass immigration.)
So you still get masters who exploit everyone else. All because you want to get revenge on whitey.
I guess I should join the bankers then. Lord knows you won't be challenging them in any significant way, ever.
>>76001129
Check the polls done on "moderate" Muslims. They're all the same. If they're not actively spreading sharia they will sit back and let it happen.
>>76001129
Guns are killing devices, thier sole existence implies death.
Islam is a violent religion. Same implication.
There are laws to restrict guns. There should be laws to restrict Islam.
>>76001805
If guns promote violence why has the violent crime rate been going down in America for a decade?
Also, the irony of saying guns promote violence while defending Islam.
>>76001208
*ibn
>>76001129
muslims are responsible for their own actions. guns aren't
>>76002082
>If guns promote violence why has the violent crime rate been going down in America for a decade?
Could be other factors that are contributing to the decline in crime. There's just not a single factor that correlate with crime.
>Also, the irony of saying guns promote violence while defending Islam.
Both promote violence imo. The question at hand is about the generalization.
>>76001129
A small percentage of gun owners are a problem but its a majority of Muslims that are a problem
Guns are needed to protect yourself. They may be used to shoot up a gunfreezone but they are useful. Muslims are needed for nothing, only rape crime terrorism and freeloading.
>>76001709
You can generalize a whole religion because you can generally tell from what the religion tells and what the people do by following it.
However you can't generalize people who own guns because there is no same mentality among on the gun owners compared to people who adopt a religion that gives the same mentality among others who have the same religion.
>>76002333
So at what % does a generalization become valid?
>>76001709
You can generalize people if there is a basis behind the generalization.
No-one here REALLY believes that you shouldn't fucking generalize people.
There is countless issues with the Islamic faith.
1. Blocking the polio vaccine which very nearly succeeded in eradicating the disease from our world. There was a counter campaign that claimed the vaccine was designed to sterilize Muslims.
2. Pregnancy below the healthy age for childbearing which is 18-35
3. Inbreeding among close blood relatives
4. FGM, female genital mutilation
5. Vitamin D deficiency from lack of sunlight for women who live out their lives in walking body bags. The skin is the largest organ of the human body. Skin performs necessary body functions beyond mere sex appeal.
Gun advocacy isn't a fucking ideology of hate you fucking bull prepper
MOST GUN OWNERS ARE NOT A PROBLEM.
When they are it's not because of owning fucking guns you fucking retard.
>>76002423
>You can generalize a whole religion because you can generally tell from what the religion tells and what the people do by following it.
Except you can't, can you? There are plenty of denominations within christianity, and some of them believe in drastically different things. I mean, you have the pacifist protestants and then you have the war-mongering christian identity/british israelism who seek to genocide jews. It's no difference when it comes to Islam.
>>76002665
That's an arbitrary line which is hard to draw but it's obvious for Islam.
>>76001129
People universally agree that guns should be used responsibly for responsible purposes, and when people abuse their right to own a gun they should be punished and ostracized.
The same cannot be said about Islam.
Islam has many pages on how Muslims should promote violence and martyrdom and the religion requires its followers to follow the book word for word. What's worse is you get people (usually middle class Americans who have never even ever been to a country run by sharia law, let alone lived their for any significant portion of time) who challenge the notion that it promotes violence even though it's literally written in a book. Most of the terrorist activity in the world is conducted by Muslims in the name of Islam.
Comparing that nutty philosophy to gun ownership is classic liberal logic. There are about as many guns in america that there are people and yet more people are killed by cars or abortion.
>>76001805
My guns haven't shot anyone, how do you say they promote violence? If anything Muslims throwing gays off of roofs promote violence. Muslims have killed more people than my guns have.
>>76001129
>Sweden
>pro gun control
Explains why migrants can do whatever they want, huh.
>>76001805
An inanimate object promotes violence? Sweden yes, your education has finally hit the bluest of pill levels.
>>76002880
But sharia must be held higher than any other law.
>>76001129
Strawman you bitch.
>>76002926
This
>comprehensive federal background checks
We already have that
>mentally ill and domestic violence convicts can't get guns
We already have that
>>76002690
>1. Blocking the polio vaccine which very nearly succeeded in eradicating the disease from our world. There was a counter campaign that claimed the vaccine was designed to sterilize Muslims.
Sure, okay.
>2. Pregnancy below the healthy age for childbearing which is 18-35
Work both ways. It's not healthy to have children above the age of 35 either, yet that's allowed in western civilization.
>3. Inbreeding among close blood relatives
Has been done for millennia in Europe (cousins primarily).
>4. FGM, female genital mutilation
That is the parents choice. Parents are already allowed to fuck up their kids with a shit nutrition (stunting growth, messing with the development of the brain, etc), and that's way worse than any genital mutilation.
>5. Vitamin D deficiency from lack of sunlight for women who live out their lives in walking body bags.
There are supplements. Not an issue.
>Gun advocacy isn't a fucking ideology of hate you fucking bull prepper
It's practically an ideology of violence. At the very least an instrument for it.
>MOST GUN OWNERS ARE NOT A PROBLEM.
Most muslims aren't a problem either, sand-niggers are.
>>76001129
the right to defend yourself, especially with guns, is a corner stone of a free nation. It's doubly important considering western plods are pc cucks that can't do nothing in most cases apart from take notes
>>76002885
So it's arbitrary? Therefore your generalization about muslims isn't really more justified than the generalization about gun-owners?
>>76001129
Your right, we should bann both guns and islam
as long as islam is acceptable than gun ownership should be acceptable as well
>>76002992
>My guns haven't shot anyone, how do you say they promote violence?
Plenty of muslims that haven't bombed anybody. How can you say they promote violence/terrorism?
Sweden you are not even trying anymore.
>>76003075
Never said I'm pro gun-control, burger brain.
>>76001709
False equivalency.
Religions require their believers to act a certain way, i.e. don't eat bacon. So you can easily generalize the followers of a religion by the beliefs of that religion, in this case the belief that they have to destroy infidels.
Guns are property. The only action common to gun owners is the ownership of guns. There's no belief you must have to own a gun.
>>76003131
>American
>Talking about education
>>76003527
see
>>76002690
Guns don't promote each other doing violence or hide plots from authorities.
>>76003341
It's not a strawman just because you said so. Try again.
>>76001129
No. Beacuse guns are just object and how its used depends on the people. In the other hand Islam is a radical religion which can be radical to the lowes of social pressure.
>inb4 christianity
What is the new testament? What was the reformation? What was the are of enlightenment?
>inb4 american gun culture
Yes. Gun culture is exist ,but it's not an ideology with doctrines and laws like islam. It's a much larger cicle.
>>76001129
>isn't in the same thing
No, less than 1% of gun owners shoot people for no reason. 10-15% of western muslims are crazies and a majority of muslims world wide are
>>76003589
You didn't have to
>>76003360
So you should need a license to have a certain ideology? Wew lad.
>>76003387
This is not about whether guns should be legal or not. This is about the generalization.
>>76003470
Agreed.
>>76001129
Which one has an Ammendment dedicated to it in the Constitution?
>>76003590
It's not a false equivalency just because you said so.
>Religions require their believers to act a certain way, i.e. don't eat bacon. So you can easily generalize the followers of a religion by the beliefs of that religion, in this case the belief that they have to destroy infidels.
Not really, considering there are several denominations within the abrahamic religions that are drastically different. You can't generalize them all.
Try again.
>>76003634
Where's the Swedish university on this list again? I can't seem to find it.
Islam promotes war when all other attempts at conversion has failed.
A weapon has no intention, meaning or implications. It has as much power to convince you as a stone or bucket of water.
You want to ban something because of how a human might at some point use it.
>>76003757
Less than 0% of muslims kill someone for no reason. There's always a motive.
>>76003942
Both, actually. Freedom of religion is also an amendment right.
>>76004256
So you respect the 1st Ammendment, but not the 2nd?
>>76004059
Those are most likely based on the amount of jewish indoctrination they offer.
Where is America on this list? Oh, that's a long way down. I wonder why that is? I mean I thought you ahd the best universities in the world yet you're below Sweden? Weird. Maybe your universities aren't that good after all :S
>>76004369
Get it in your fat burger brain that the thread isn't about gun-control or islam, it's about the generalization.
>>76004048
>You can't generalize them all.
Yes, yes you can generalize them all in their similarities to each other because they all come from the same stem they all have some similarities that you can judge all muslims on.
Same with christianity.
The only thing you can generalize all of gun owners on is that they may or may not shoot their gun some time in their life. That's it.
>>76003634
You're trying to make a religion the same thing as an inanimate object. I don't fucking understand how you cannot see this is a false equivalence of the worst kind.
>>76001129
fuck you
ideology =/= mental health problem
>>76004558
YES IM FINALLY UNBANNED
>>76004085
>Islam promotes war when all other attempts at conversion has failed.
Certain denominations might, not all. Same with christianity. There are christian denominations that promote war, others that don't.
>A weapon has no intention, meaning or implications.
Wrong. It's a tool created with the intent to do harm.
>You want to ban something because of how a human might at some point use it.
I'll say it again, because you americans seem to have some kind of mental deficiency. This thread isn't about gun-control or islam. It's about the generalization of the two.
>>76003367
35+ year olds can still consent pedo. And cite some counter-evidence.
>>76003367
Glad to see you're one of the many retards who don't address half of the shit people put in their posts.
>2. Pregnancy below the healthy age for childbearing which is 18-35
Work both ways. It's not healthy to have children above the age of 35 either, yet that's allowed in western civilization.
Doesn't change the fact that many Muslims are having children with extremely young women who shouldn't be childbearing
>3. Inbreeding among close blood relatives
Has been done for millennia in Europe (cousins primarily).
And that makes it right? It is hardly done at all today.
>4. FGM, female genital mutilation
That is the parents choice. Parents are already allowed to fuck up their kids with a shit nutrition (stunting growth, messing with the development of the brain, etc), and that's way worse than any genital mutilation.
That doesn't stop genital mutilation which is completely useless from being a widely used practice.
>5. Vitamin D deficiency from lack of sunlight for women who live out their lives in walking body bags.
There are supplements. Not an issue.
So their religion ends up fucking making women have to take supplements to be healthy? Okay.
>Gun advocacy isn't a fucking ideology of hate you fucking bull prepper
It's practically an ideology of violence. At the very least an instrument for it.
No it's fucking not you brain-dead retard. Read what the fucking 2nd amendment says.
>MOST GUN OWNERS ARE NOT A PROBLEM.
Most muslims aren't a problem either, sand-niggers are.
Yes they are. Look at the fucking image I posted in the earlier post I made. THEY ARE A PROBLEM.
>>76003437
Of course it is. There is VERY VERY fair reason to generalize that specific group. There is NOT for gun owners/advocates.
>>76004617
Congrats Hungary.
Hope the freedom will last for more than a day.
>>76004481
>Yes, yes you can generalize them all in their similarities to each other because they all come from the same stem they all have some similarities that you can judge all muslims on.
>Same with christianity.
Protestants are literally pacifists, whereas christians who subscribe to british israelism or christian identity straight out want to genocide the jews and actively promote such an agenda. Should the pacifists be lumped together with the war-mongering british israelites according to you? Interesting reasoning.
>The only thing you can generalize all of gun owners on is that they may or may not shoot their gun some time in their life. That's it.
Nope, if you can generalize all christians/muslims on the basis that they're all muslims, then you can generalize all gun-owners on the basis that they're all gun-owners. It's a grouping of people, same difference.
>>76001129
>>But anon, you generalize all muslims based on the actions of a few radicals. Isn't it the same thing?
But that's not true. We generalize all muslims based on their ideology. Supposed "moderate" muslims are just as fucked up as radicals.
>>76004642
Name one denomination of Islam that doesn't promote war and ISN'T considered heretical.
Now name me one gun manufacturer that instructs their buyers to go out and commit acts of violence on others with their product.
>>76001129
Hypocrisy is almost always yelled by someone misapplying the golden rule and this mistake is one of the fundamentals with the progressive phenomena.
The irony is that wanting guns and mistrusting muslims both have the same underlying motivations when put into the context of the golden rule.
>do you want people telling you how to protect yourself?
>>76001129
I generalize muslims based on their scriptures.
>>76004652
>35+ year olds can still consent pedo.
So can 15 year olds.
>>76004456
I would have assumed it was about hypocrisy based on your op.
Most people have no issue with generalization because there isn't anything wrong with acknowledging statistical differences. Such as more guns = less crime and more muslims = more beheadings
>>76001129
Unfortunately, this is a false equivalence. So, no, it isn't the same thing. One deals with an entire race and religion; while the other deals with the concept of firearm ownership relative to the individual in a specific nation, America.
So both arguments are clearly separate and not interrelated at all.
>>76004934
>t. pedo who can't get women his age
>>76001129
The truth is that no generalization is valid, if by valid we mean able to justify a response by itself.
It's the elite is academia that's muddying the waters with buzzwords like
>evidence based -something-
>marginalisation
>under/over representation
Did you know you can be underrepresented and overrepresented in something at the same time? By different criteria and categorisation. Then how in the world can we base policy on a things like this. There is always a hidden presumption and yet we pretend it's objective.
Sadly this isn't well understood on /pol/..
>>76001129
I don't generalize all Muslims.
Check mate, faggot.
>the problem is the gun ownership
this just in: firearms are sentient and can manipulate the human mind
>>76004456
And? It can go both, ways... What's your answer?
Muslims murder with guns, also.
>>76001129
Owning a gun is a right, doesn't matter how many people misuse it, faggot.
>>76001129
Fuck off achmed.
>>76004934
That depends on the country
>>76001129
almost all gun manufacturing companies are owned by jews
no wonder i see so many pro gun threads
>>76004697
>Doesn't change the fact that many Muslims are having children with extremely young women who shouldn't be childbearing
Many gun owners also act irresponsibly. Why is your generalization okay?
>And that makes it right? It is hardly done at all today.
Does it make it wrong? Right and wrong is just arbitrary opinion from an atheistic perspective, hence nonsensical.
>That doesn't stop genital mutilation which is completely useless from being a widely used practice.
Still their kids, their choice, is it not? What if Big Daddy government stepped in and said we're not allowed to teach our kids that sexual promiscuity is wrong? You wouldn't have a problem with that?
>So their religion ends up fucking making women have to take supplements to be healthy? Okay.
We're already doing it in Sweden (since we're living so far north). It's not really a big deal. Too much sunlight is detrimental to ones health, so one could argue that you should be FORCED to cover up in Australia, since it's for your own good. This is what your argument is based on.
>No it's fucking not you brain-dead retard. Read what the fucking 2nd amendment says
Read what the 1st amendment says. Also, we're not all from the USA you mongloid. Lmao.
>Yes they are. Look at the fucking image I posted in the earlier post I made. THEY ARE A PROBLEM.
So are guns.
>>76001129
>that flag
>that false comparison
saged
>>76004386
>nobel prize
>invented by swedes
Way to go guys
>>76005135
Sexual attraction to 15 year olds is not pedophilia, you uneducated criminal. It's ephebophilia. Back to school.
>>76004642
>Wrong. It's a tool created with the intent to do harm.
But it cannot do harm without the human element.
The practitioners of Islam do harm of their own free will or by turning the other cheek to their more "radical" elements. And when called to condemn their "minority" they close ranks and say they are being attacked as a whole.
>>76005439
Freedom of religion is also a right, bratwurst.
We have background checks for gun owners, and nsa for muslims.
Both are necessary to make sure power doesn't go into the wrong hands.
Making generalizations is easier than nitpicking every detail, and is more effective in getting an idea across to another person.
This post has no point, is a circle jerk, and is a decent attempt to break down the components of the stereotypical /pol/ ideals.
Fuck off back to tumblr where you can worship your trans-gay-strong independant-black whatever gender-holy cow you all seem to obsess over.
>>76003803
He didn't say that at all, and you know it you dishonest prick.
What he was saying is that we have clearly defined laws and statutes for who is allowed guns and how they obtain them, which lets us define "legal gun owners".
Again, the same cannot be said about Islam.
Muslim people can't even decide what constitutes Islam. You have the entire Islamic part of the world who say that followers must abide by the book word for word, but then you have middle class Americans debating that /real/ Muslims don't kill people and that /real/ Muslims don't do this or that (it's usually only negative things that they deny, you never hear anyone arguing that /real/ Muslims stress the subservience of women and gays). It's literally the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.
>>76005609
I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight. The Nobel committe is not corrupt. It would create a major shitstorm if it was, and yes, it wouldn't go unnoticed.
>>76005738
>But it cannot do harm without the human element.
Neither can islam. Checkmate.
>>76001129
Well what? Guns are already regulated through the roof. If you accept this analogy, you also accept the premise that Muslims should be regulated through the roof as well.
>>76005866
>What he was saying is that we have clearly defined laws and statutes for who is allowed guns and how they obtain them, which lets us define "legal gun owners".
Yeah I can see that in Texas. People can just go into a store and buy an AR. Fuck out of here.
>Muslim people can't even decide what constitutes Islam.
Yet you people can? This just gets better and better. If they can't even decide themselves, how can you generalize them all? Makes absolutely no sense.
>>76001129
Well... Don't give guns to muslims.
>>76004872
>Protestants are literally pacifists, whereas christians who subscribe to british israelism or christian identity straight out want to genocide the jews and actively promote such an agenda. Should the pacifists be lumped together with the war-mongering british israelites according to you? Interesting reasoning.
Christians are known pacifists as well it goes with the ideology that is following christs ways, which all strains of christianity follow in some way, protestants are as you say, literal pacifists.
Eastern Orthodox is semi pacifistic in that they'll attack when agitated but they'll aim for other ways to solve a conflict.
Then we go onto Mormons, Baptists, Catholics etc.
That what proves my point you can generalize all paths of a religion due to their similarities to eachother their main traits will shine in all of that paths that claim that they are branch of the same tree. This is how you can generalize all Muslims no matter what path they are, if they come from the same roots, they'll always have a couple of traits that you can generalize off of.
The problem is to find what these traits are other than following in Muhameds footsteps.
>>76005592
>Doesn't change the fact that many Muslims are having children with extremely young women who shouldn't be childbearing
Many gun owners also act irresponsibly. Why is your generalization okay?
Compared to Muslims. No. No they fucking don't. Gun ownership isn't related to a fucking retarded religion.
>And that makes it right? It is hardly done at all today.
Does it make it wrong? Right and wrong is just arbitrary opinion from an atheistic perspective, hence nonsensical.
Everything is subjective then. Fucking pathetic counter argument. Yeah xD I like dog fighting but I don't have to justify why because everything is subjective xD hahaha btfo amiright?
>That doesn't stop genital mutilation which is completely useless from being a widely used practice.
Still their kids, their choice, is it not? What if Big Daddy government stepped in and said we're not allowed to teach our kids that sexual promiscuity is wrong? You wouldn't have a problem with that?
I'd have a problem with that. There is a line between fucking physical mutilation and teaching your kids ideas.
>So their religion ends up fucking making women have to take supplements to be healthy? Okay.
We're already doing it in Sweden (since we're living so far north). It's not really a big deal. Too much sunlight is detrimental to ones health, so one could argue that you should be FORCED to cover up in Australia, since it's for your own good. This is what your argument is based on.
Wearing a fucking bedsheet serves no purpose. Without the religion you at least have the opportunity to choose.
>No it's fucking not you brain-dead retard. Read what the fucking 2nd amendment says
What the fuck has the 1st amendment have to do with anything?
>Yes they are. Look at the fucking image I posted in the earlier post I made. THEY ARE A PROBLEM.
So are guns.
Explain why?
>>76001129
>you generalize all muslims based on the actions of a few radicals
No I don't, Lefty. Better check yourself.
>All muslims are terorists. This generalization is alright because there are many muslims that are.
t. sweaty american lardass
See the generalization I made? That's also justified. All americans are obese, because there are many who are. Checkmate. Using your own stupid reasoning against you.
All americans are stupid, because there are many who are.
All americans are sexually promiscuous, because there are many who are.
>>76005702
Fair enough.
Glad to see you have set up a great defense of your attraction to little girls and probably boys.
Interesting that they're teaching you these kind of things in school too. Slippery slop is real it seems. Swedes already defending this kind of degeneracy.
>>76005966
So it is in your opinion that they are both capable of doing harm in the wrong hands?
>>76006367
americans reach puberty by the age of 50
stop hating us
>>76006164
>People can just go into a store and buy an AR.
Yeah I guess you're right.
Oh wait, no that's completely not true at all. Nowhere in the country can you do that. Period.
>Yet you people can?
Yeah, when a person says "I am a Muslim" I think that's a pretty good litmus test to see if they're Muslim or not.
You get people on the inside of the Muslim community who are trying to say that other people in the Muslim community really aren't, which is complete lunacy. The irony is that both sides think that neither one of them are true Muslims when they both obviously are.
Are you trying out for your high school debate club or something? You're really bad at this.
>>76006367
All male Swedes are bull preppers because most love bbc and watching their wife get fucked.
>>76005966
But they're two different things
Islam encourages its practitioners to commit harm in the name of their ideology, how does gun ownership come anywhere close to that.
>>76006544
You're thinking of anglos (supported by statistical evidence, which you funnily enough used to justify your generalization of muslims). Checkmate, criminal cuck.
>>76006676
Don't fucking ignore me you piece of shit. If you can't debate me at least admit defeat.
>>76006570
>But they're two different things
Because you said so?
>Islam encourages its practitioners to commit harm in the name of their ideology
Not really, that's just your opinion and interpretation of the Quran. There are christians who believe Jesus preaches pacifism, whereas other denominations believe he preaches war-mongering against jews (i.e. british israelism).
>>76005532
>Mossberg
Swedish Lutheran
but muh (((BERG)))
>Remington
Brit Anglican
>Herstal (CEO'd by Claessens)
Belgian Protestant
>Smith & Wesson
American Lutherans
>Winchester family
American Catholics
>Benjamin Henry
American Protestant
You really think the Jews would want to arm the populace they're attempting to control?
>>76006570
Legal gun owners preach gun safety and legal use of firearms
Muslims preach Sharia and the opression/murder of those deemed infidels or undesirable
The comparison of the two groups is stupid
>>76006393
Damage-controlling your display of ignorance? Cute.
>>76006164
>People can just go into a store and buy an AR.
Yeah, after filling this out and passing a FBI/NICS background check.
>>76006676
>be swedish
>watch your gf get fucked by bbc
>clean his cock after he cums in her
Is this very fun?
>>76006832
Remington
Parker
Dakota Arms
Bushmaster
H&R
Marlin
L. C. Smith
DPMS
Eotac
NEF
Advanced Armament Corp.
Colt
all jew owned
This is a false equivalency. Guns are a tool, you can kill a guy with one, Islam is belief, people may kill because of Islam, but you can't Islam a guy to death.
>>76006771
Don't feel bad, he's ignoring any sapient evidence and argument. He just wants to hit low hanging fruit.
>>76006771
You're just repeating shit I've already countered. It's getting old.
>>76001129
I work hard to purge the white guilt instilled in me by years of American schooling. Then a Swede speaks.
Now I have white embarrassment.
Then they are admitting the other argument is correct. I win.
>>76005931
They lost any credibility they had left when they gave Obama a Nobel Peace prize for being elected.
>>76001129
Gun owners don't collectively believe in an entity that commands them to dominate the world.
Fucking retard leftist pussies BTFO.
Holy shit, leftists are so fucking stupid.
>>76001129
I can generalize whoever I want I have a gun
>>76001333
Gun ownership is a degenerate idea introduced by jews to get your shekels and it promotes violence. What else can you use a gun for?
>But m-muh protection
Right, let me "self defend" the next mofo who pisses me off
>>76007090
If I don't respond there are two possibly explanations
1) I've already provided a counter-argument in a previous post
2) I have no counter-argument
>>76001129
if you give everyone in school a guy, how will know who the shooter is? how will the police know? the police will think anyone with a gun is the shooter.
if i were a school shooter, i would want the schools to have guns. it would cause confusion and make it easier for me.
>>76007160
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>>76007242
Hows it feel to be wrong, bitch? Your comparison is so fucking stupid. Fuck Muslims, we want them and their children to burn. I'll even vouch to kill "moderates". Muslims are the filth of earth.
>>76007070
[citation needed]
>>76002423
Yes you can, a gun's only goal is to kill. Nothing more or less. Based on that you can generalize that every gun owner is psycho who sees a kill as the only option.
>>76007372
If you don't have a counter argument, you've lost
>>76007457
a gun*
>>76007372
So you have no counter-argument to >>76004897?
>>76006925
>points out that you defend degeneracy
>d-dd-d-d-d-damage control
>>76007160
No he's not. You can't prove him wrong so you're running away like a little bitch.
>>76007160
No you aren't. You're straw-manning arguments that nobody in the thread is making and now you're doing it to yourself by claiming you already countered my points when you clearly didn't. I can do that too, watch.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. Islam is a terrible ideology and gun owners are truly incomparable to it. You got a little racist there but beside that I think you were pretty eloquent. I know you said you have to go because your wife and the bull are getting started but it was nice to talk to you on a rational level.
>>76007070
Bullshit.
>>76007457
>everyone in a school has a gun
>you decide to go haywire and shoot the place up
>"this is great, everyone has a gun so nobody will know who the spree shooter is!"
>gun down first target
>die in a hail of lead from all the other armed individuals
>>76007517
A guns only goal is to direct the force of an explosion to propel an object at a high rate of speed, if you use it to kill thats your choice
>>76007372
Haha damage control. This retard doesn't know shit
I don't really know why people are obsessed with guns. it seems like a boring hobby.
I understand if you need one for protection in a shitty neighbor but why the gun fetishism?
>>76001129
>>76005702
from mustache-twirling condescending opener to
>muh ephebophilia
+ a "rancid swine" level meltdown
there is no fedora big enough to fit enough the size of his fat head, no black trench coat long enough to cover his loli hentai collection
As often is the case, especially with Sweden, OP is a fag
>>76007525
Yes. Doesn't necessarily mean I'm wrong though. It could mean I don't have a good response because I haven't researched the topic enough.
>>76007602
kek
>>76007620
I don't, no.
Countries with large amounts of muslims are violent and dangerous.
Countries that recognize a right to bear arms are not.
>>76007457
>ballistics and forensics are not a thing
>>76007894
>>76007648
I wasn't defending degeneracy. I said that 15 year old girls are perfectly capable of having healthy offspring. You called me a pedophile for it, when it's not even pedophilia. I called you out on your ignorance and you got into damage-control mode, saying I defend pedophilia once again.
>>76007894
>I'm right I just can't prove it
We're now in a troll thread
>>76007894
>doesn't mean I'm wrong
But it does mean you've lost, which means you are a loser, better luck next time
>>76007946
Then you admit that your argument carries no weight and is, indeed, a false equivalence. Thank you.
>>76001129
I agree 100% with you anon... However there are laws regulating guns already... Most of euroshits like you can't own a gun...
However Muslim cocks are inside your mother and sister and daughter right now and there's zero regulation of that there...
Gun control is OK as long as it makes sure law abiding citizens can carry guns...
However Muslims are unchecked!
Thanks anon for alerting us to these facts. You really made me think! Without you, I wouldn't know there wasn't enough control on Islam
>>76007852
They are compensating.
>>76001129
Guns don't tell you to go out and shoot people, we already have Islam for that.
>>76008100
Yes but that fact that you care so much to split hairs over something so fucking stupid goes to show that you invested time in learning special bullshit.
Why did you learn this stupid bullshit?
because Sven your old gf is getting cummed in by Chad so your only option left is to prey on little girls and boys.
>>76008383
>Scorpion comes from hell
>Scorpion is a Muslim
Really makes you think
"People who advocate national imprisonment are stupid. You shouldn't generalize all free men based on the actions of a few crazies who abuse it to murder."
>But anon, you generalize all [LITERALLY ANYTHING] based on the actions of a few radicals. Isn't it the same thing?
>>76007477
>>76007705
also wall mart is the biggest retailer of guns in the usa, owned by jews
not sure about hyatt guns tho but i think it's also founded by the jew
>>76001208
FPBP
>>76001129
RMYT
>>76001129
Their whole ideology tells them to murder non-muslims and be deceitful. So it's not generalizing a few.
>>76008451
>Yes but that fact that you care so much to split hairs over something so fucking stupid goes to show that you invested time in learning special bullshit.
Was obviously useful, wasn't it? I got to correct your stupid ass, lmao.
>Why did you learn this stupid bullshit?
So I can call out pseudo-intellectuals on their bullshit.
>because Sven your old gf is getting cummed in by Chad so your only option left is to prey on little girls and boys.
I'm a celibate.
>>76007894
Lmao damage control. Just stop you little fucking retard. You don't know shit and can't debate worth shit
>I'm right because I'm right
Your strategy.
>>76001129
no one says all Muslims are terrorists, therefore your question makes no sense.
>>76007366
Yuropoors still think gun ownership is like the Wild West where you can bushwhack a no-good sumbitch for calling you a yellow-bellied son of a whore.
>>76008744
Your strategy is to eat big macs.
>>76008063
i meant at the time the shooting is happening, not after.
if you give everyone a gun, it would give the shooter camouflage. you know who the shooter is in gun free zones because he's the only guy with the gun. if everyone has a gun, how are you going to identify the shooter?
>>76007366
We've double the number of guns in America in the last twenty years. Gun laws are the loosest they've been in decades. The murder rate is less than half of what it was when we started. Violent crime is nearing record lows.
You're a fucking halfwit.
>>76008738
>Yes but that fact that you care so much to split hairs over something so fucking stupid goes to show that you invested time in learning special bullshit.
Was obviously useful, wasn't it? I got to correct your stupid ass, lmao.
Generally when people say pedo they mean attraction to young girls/boys you fucking retard
>Why did you learn this stupid bullshit?
So I can call out pseudo-intellectuals on their bullshit.
So you can justify degeneracy incase you get caught watching loli
>because Sven your old gf is getting cummed in by Chad so your only option left is to prey on little girls and boys.
I'm a celibate.
So little girls/boys don't even like you then? Wow.
Threadly reminder that there's a greater correlation between the first two letters of your country's name and homicide than there is between gun ownership and homicide.
>>76009011
He's the dead guy that everyone is laughing at and taking pictures with
>>76009011
Like I said earlier, he'll be the corpse full of many different ballistic sized holes versus just one size of ballistic hole.
>>76001129
the radicals arent the only ones causing problems. most of the rapist probably are not devote
>>76007185
>implying he's white
>>76009195
>Generally when people say pedo they mean attraction to young girls/boys you fucking retard
I don't care what "most" people mean. Most people are uneducated, like you. Stop trying to rationalize your ignorance, cunt.
>So you can justify degeneracy incase you get caught watching loli
I'm not a degenerate like you, criminal scum.
>So little girls/boys don't even like you then? Wow.
Why should I care? Lol.
Isn't it time for you to go prep the emu now? Your wife is waiting.
>>76009232
>>76009219
how will know who the shooter is if you're not paying attention and you just see everyone with a gun?
what most likely will happen is that law abiding gun owners will be too busy shooting at each other to shoot the shooter.
>>76009538
>>76009629
brainwashing made you believe the white girl is attractive. in reality, she's ugly
>>76009450
>justifying investing your time in learning practically useless information
Okay retard.
>So you can justify degeneracy incase you get caught watching loli
I'm not a degenerate like you, criminal scum.
Yes you are Mohammed.
>So little girls/boys don't even like you then? Wow.
Why should I care? Lol.
You do care.
>>76009583
>hear gunfire
>go to investigate
>see two guys shooting at each other
>wait
>if one guy gets shot and the other puts his piece away, don't shoot him
>if one guy gets shot and the other continues to look for targets, shoot him
Literally this simple.
>>76008923
Great rebuttal. Didn't prove shit. Stupid fucking sand nigger bitch. Allah sucks my dick.
>>76003634
oh look, it's another episode where a europuke displays unrepentant arrogance while everything around him is being destroyed
"People who generalize all Muslims are stupid. You shouldn't generalize all Muslims based on the actions of a few crazies."
>But libtard, you generalize all gun owners based on the actions of a few radicals. Isn't it the same thing?
>>76009629
>right side
Not for long Sven, they're all gonna be mullatto mutts in 2 generations
>>76009583
That argument was retarded twenty years ago when you retarded monkeys were claiming concealed carry would lead to blood in the streets.
It's even more retarded now after crime has continued to drop and no blood appeared in the streets.
cya later Sven. Good luck with the little boys and girls you want to fuck (maybe you'll get a black one :o)
>>76009629
I don't see the problem
>>76009874
crime has continued to drop
mostly due to abortion, and not guns.
>>76001129
No, I generalize Sunni human garbage, which can seriously get gassed. Fuck sunnis, they make up about 98% of the refugee population, even Syrians admit they're fucking garbage. The west has only ever had experience with Sunnis because they're leeches that have no dedication to their homeland like shia, alawi, alevi, etc.
>>76001129
>>76009739
>Investing time
Lmao it really takes 1 minute of reading.
>Yes you are Mohammed.
No, I'm really not. You descend from convicted criminals from Britain. You literally got degenerate blood coursing through your veins. Disgusting.
>You do care.
Wow are you Charles Xavier?
>>76007366
So you think self defense is dumb?
>>76009751
>Stupid fucking sand nigger bitch.
Watch your blood pressure. It's not good to have an increase when you're obese. You can get a heart attack or stroke.
>>76001805
>Guns promote violence.
As cars promote drunk driving and hot scantly clad women promote rape? right?
Violent idiots promote violence, not tools. And religions designed by violent idiots... guess what they do?
>Also this isn't a false equivalence because they are both generalizations.
It is a false analogy. A textbook definition of it. You are applying the conclusion drawn from observing a specific situation to another radically different situation, assuming they both are identical situations and therefore should lead to identical conclusions.
>since apples and oranges are both round fruits, stating that an apple is generally sweet while a lemon is generally sour is a contradiction.
This is your post in a nutshell. You can't compare a group of people that own a tool to a group of people to share a religion. Gun ownership is not a theological system and a form of government that shapes your very way of life.
tl_dr: get that fat black cock out of your mouth and go back to logic 101. Dismissed.
>>76009817
Yep, the argument work both ways.
>>76001129
Who told you that your wife's son or her bull?
>>76009821
>they're all gonna be mullatto mutts in 2 generations
Sweden is not america.
>>76001129
A fee radicals my fucking ass when polled 38% of Muslims believed in and supported radical islam and 43% had no comment or were neutral on the matter which tells me they support but don't want to say they do even if half of the 43% support that's 59% percent of Muslims polled supporting radical islam fuck off
>>76001129
I don't have to explain shit, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed period.
He's down to low hanging fruit and ad hominems, he's done.
>>76010253
That's not an argument.
>>76001129
The principle difference being that responsible gun owners don't have a religious text telling them to lie, cheat, and kill for islam; and the NRA, unlike the muslim religious leaders, have never called for or condoned mass killings.
Shooters have never had the support of gun owners and it has even been shown that gun owners will risk their lives to put down shooters and protect others, even gun control advocates. Muslims have not stood against their violent peers and omnicidal clerics
>>76010297
>>76001129
No we generalize muslims based on statistics
>>76010191
Great rebuttal. Still can't prove shit. Lmao.
>>76001129
The difference is that guns serve a good purpose, whereas there is literally no reason in america's interest to take in muslims.
>>76010253
if it works both ways then all it does is call out hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle.
which shows the silliness of the left versus right paradigm everyone mindlessly subscribes to.
>>76010590
Americans are statistically fat as fuck, then I guess it's alright to assume all americans are fat.
>>76010762
Yes
>>76001129
all muslims lie about their true intentions
Islam is a doctrine. A doctrine with instructions that can be read. We can thereby judge people based on that doctrine.
Pretty simple really.
>>76011040
Only insecure people need guns. People who know they need to defend themselves because they are weak.
>>76010826
>Americans are fat
Is that all you can say? Lol id rather be fat than a cuck...lmao.
>>76010301
That's the biggest crook of shit meme I've ever seen what is it with you fucking swedes projecting on america lately fucking kek what you fucks fail to understand is we have been immigrating people to this country since our creation and still hold a white majority we have always had nigger problems (we fought a war over it) we have always had spic problems (fought a war over that too) and we will continue to have them but it doesn't have a detrimental effect on our people the whites still exist and will continue to do so claiming your country is superior over white majority when we could fit your country in Florida is a fucking meme Sven you imported a few Muslims and your country is falling apart we have been immigrating Muslims for yrs and they intigrate into american society and culture same with spics. They always retain an element of thier culture which over the yrs has added to our culture as a whole we are the only culture in the world currently not falling apart over cultural diversity shit is memes Sven... I know your angry with your situation but stop pretending and projecting you can't handle cultural diversity and in essence are falling apart because of it we have been dealing with cultural diversity and immigration since our creation and we are more powerful both militarily and economically so tell your all so many whites to act like white men and fucking fight instead of coming on /pol/ and raging "muh Americans are more cucked" when you are cucked by the EU, the UN, Germany, britain, and now out of all fucking things islam.... fix your fucking country and stop screaming superiority
>>76011237
You've never even held one..so I mean really stfu.
Ya you don't need a gun, because it's a threat to Jamal and achmed who rape your mum.
>>76011237
Your response has no relevance to my post.
>>76001129
Eh, the people who commit shootings are just people who use guns to do it, you know, every person with a gun could do it, it's about person not about a "Gun owner"
Muslims on the other hand base their actions on the fact that they are muslim.
If you know there is a gang in the city that commit many violent crimes and you meet another guy from that gang, you don't know if he is actually dangerous because you never seen him before but do you really want to have anything to do with him?
Religion require you to act in certain way, if you are muslim your task is to kill the infidels, whenever or not people want to do it is another thing.
Owning a gun don't require you to commit mass shootings for fucks sake.
>>76011237
Only uncivilized barbarians cry about their physical might no longer deciding the outcome of physical confrontations.
>>76001129
Gun owners don't follow a gun-bible
>>76001129
Guns don't kill people.
Shitskins do.
>>76001129
>>76001129
SVERIGE JA
HIPP
HIPP
HURRA
>>76011337
Americans are statistically cucks as well. See pic-related in >>76006676
Lol you're fat cucks
>>76011586
Fan vad varmt det är i detta jävla land. Svettas fan ihjäl asså.
>>76011675
Hahahaha helt sjukt.
>>76011614
Another one see>>76011379
>>76011870
I know muhammad it wasn't meant for you...
>>76011493
Never said people who don't have guns are afraid of guns, lmao strawman at its finest.
>>76011436
>>76011443
Weak. Alpha men don't need guns because no one dares to attack them. You guys are confirmed beta.
false equivalency with a red herring throwing in there
>>76012033
Are you trolling fucking kek god damn summer time shit tier bait here's a (you) though for the chuckles
>>76011971
That gif always cracks me up. Thanks.
>>76012178
>Are you trolling fucking kek
Took you long enough. Thought I made it obvious from the start.
>>76010655
This. Islam isn't an American tradition and doesn't protect our current traditions. Guns are/do. Shariah law doesn't mix with the Constitution.
>>76001129
>>76001588
>>76001709
>>76012033
I never said that either. You didn't understand my point because you refuse to read properly. You refuse to read properly because you're afraid.
Relying on muscle to save yourself is uncivilized and degenerate. A man's dexterity and familiarity with a gun are far more dignified and proper. Those qualities are what ought to determine his survival.
>>76012367
Wasn't watching the ID kek, hard to watch blacklist and argue with swedes at the same time kek
>>76012367
>I-I-I was only pretending to be retarded!
This should be a bannable offense on /pol/.
>>76012454
>Islam isn't an American tradition and doesn't protect our current traditions.
Think again, cuck.
>>76012883
>>I-I-I was only pretending to be retarded!
Look at how I phrased the OP. I absolutely hate muslims and see no problem with generalizing them. They are all heretics. I subscribe to a variation of british israelism myself.
>>76012885
It isn't. We can have the concept without the religion. Wtf are you so obsessed with a shit idea like islam?
>>76012824
>Relying on muscle to save yourself is uncivilized and degenerate
>>76012367
A large percentage of Muslims hold radical views, a large percentage think that terrorist actions are justified.
You would be very hardpressed to find a gunowner who thinks that shooting school children is justified.
>>76013176
>implying muscle will help you if you get jumped by six niggers.
>>76001129
Oh Sweden.
>>76012885
Yeah because Obama talks about his Muslim faith all the time and tries to push us toward islam kek believe the memes if you want but no one in this country tolerates islam unless it's on a financial profit basis and his term is over he will be remembered as the first black president not the first Muslim president kek autism is hitting top tier lvls
>>76013045
Nobody cares. Stop shitting up /pol/.
>>76013279
>Implying they won't
Taking on 6 niggers might be a feat of strength for an american manlet like you, but not for a swede.
>>76012885
I prefer the words of our forefathers.
>>76012885
Fuck I did it again!!!!! You bastard
>>76001129
>"People who advocate Muslim-control are stupid. You shouldn't generalize all muslims based on the the actions of a few crazies."
>>But anon, you generalize all gun-owners based on the actions of a few radicals. Isn't it the same thing?
Well, swecuck?
>>76013365
>Stop shitting up /pol/.
I could say the same about you. Go back to r/atheism you heathen. Lmao.
And while you're at it, leave western civilization. It's christian to the core, not atheist. You don't belong here any more than muslims do.
>>76001129
Guns are like 10% as dangerous as Muslims are, don't kid yourself.
>>76013383
Swedes are such pussies. They are ultra cucks to their women who are like 95% feminazis and would get destroyed by a pack of apes. Keep dreaming, Sweden.
>>76007366
>let me "self defend" the next mofo who pisses me off
>getting pissed off is the same as an objective threat to your life
>>76013477
We've already been through this. Read the thread.
>>76013477
guns are inherently dangerous. so are muslims.
now what?
