>21 northern California counties have sent a declaration or have approved to send a declaration to the State of California with their intent of leaving the state and forming the State of Jefferson.
California is a disaster.
>2nd worst tax state and has the highest deficit nationwide
>Personal Income Tax = nation's highest
>Sales Tax = nation's highest
>State Gas Taxes @ .53 cents per gallon is the highest; this is before "Cap and Trade" hikes them even further
>Property Taxes are 10th highest in the nation
>Business Taxes rank 3rd worst in the nation
>Business climate where 5% of CA businesses LEFT the state last year (2013)
>Social Services are 32% of the budget where 3 million undocumented people enjoy those services
Its lawmakers have "coincidentally" attracted millions of democratic votes to its major cities for decades to keep this running as long as possible. At this point the roughly 4,956,000 registered republicans may as well not exist. Just look at this map, California is not as liberal as its lawmakers love to claim.
Many people don't know that for 75 years, Californians and Oregonians have been pushing to create a new state, the State of Jefferson, for this very reason. If you haven't heard of it before, read more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
http://www.soj51.net/issues.html
http://www.jeffersonstate.com/
So, /pol/, do you support a Jexit? I know it would never happen under a President Shillary, but could Trump be convinced to make the west coast great again? The founding of Jefferson would legitimize our movement and start turning the USA back into a conservative country. How can we create our 51st state?
>>75910693
Not sure how it works but I support it, why should you all have to suffer under a marxist regime?
>>75910693
SOON
>>75911402
The green counties in the image have voted for secession
If the California Legislature ignores us, and it’s likely they will — there’s no monetary incentive for them not to do that — then we will pursue a judicial remedy,” Baird says. That remedy would be to sue California for lack of representation and dilution of vote. If the suit were successful, it could go to the Supreme Court.
http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/02/state-of-jefferson-secessionists-california-gun-totin-rebels/
Is that state red or blue?
>>75911690
Cascadia is way less likely than Jefferson to make waves, our counties have already approved seceding! It's really just a matter of time until the sentiment gets worse.
>>75912060
It's blue, but only because the cities are extremely liberal and keep importing liberal votes from Mexico. The majority of the population may be liberal but the majority of the land is occupied by conservatives. Hence the issue.
>>75912060
Most likely red
>>75912060
If you mean Jefferson, it would be red. The Northern blue counties are only blue because of le weed. 90% of weed grown in the USA comes from there.
>>75912287
It's also because there are no fuckin jobs in Northern California.. everyone on the coast grows pot because the only jobs the place was settled with were Lumber, and now that CA has virtually eliminated all logging and mining, everyone there votes for marijuana laws because it's the only thing keeping their economy afloat and they KNOW THAT, I lived in garberville for 10 years.
Worth noting the XX jefferson flag symbol stands for mining and logging as well as being double crossed by the state government.
what are the odds this will work?
>>75912287
May the heartless sea wash away this blue plague
>>75910693
Can Southern Oregon be part of Jefferson? That was part of the original plan, is that still the case?
>>75913138
Yes, that's still the case.
>>75912875
They're taking the State to Supreme Court unless they're willing to comply, 8/10 this will be the liberal enfranchisement of minorities coming to bite them in ass. The system is rigged for small liberal non white ethnic neighborhoods to swing elections for multicultural but plurality white counties. Happened to San Diego, Sacramento, LA, East Bay of SF, because the libs couldn't get majority votes in white counties, a 10-40% vote for something has a lot of power in California, and WINNING nearly 2 dozen counties is a lot of political capitol and legitimacy.
>>75913138
There just happen to be far more California counties that want to secede, so it's arguably more relevant here. Also I live here, I'm not sure how much support there is in Oregon but many people here just call this place Jefferson already.
>>75913138
No Southern Oregon counties have sent declarations or anything like that to their state legislature. I think Oregonians have a real disdain for Californian politics at this point, and they probably still believe they can swing their state because it's majority white... California is FUCKED and the State government is openly genocidal,our best route is to break away
>>75913295
Thank god, Eugene and Portland are fucking us over with their progressive politics and I can't stand them cucking us anymore
>>75913421
I know that if the Jefferson succession succeeded in CA it would be a matter of time before we wanted to join them.
You should secede from the US of Gay, desu desu
>>75913834
IIRC that was deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
>>75913834
I wish
>>75910693
i would move there very quickly
>>75914118
Look at what states like North Carolina with the trannies, Texas with guns, Arizona with Mexicans, Oklahoma with God, Alaska with Oil, theres so much potential for a new US State, ESPECIALLY one with such a LOW population of only about 2 million including southern Oregon. Redpilled people could migrate and our 2 new senators would make it VERY lucrative
>All the scenario of California and redwood trees and mountains and vast open land minus the fags and spics and niggers
Sounds so great, would probably never happen though.
>>75914334
You should. Rural conservative California is comfy and would be ideal if not for the city legislators fucking us over.
>>75912875
Doesn't matter.
Even if it does, after a few years of being successful, safe and prosperous all the spics and niggers from california will just flow in and ruin it
>>75914671
We've been pushing for 75 years so sadly I feel the same. However, Trump seems to be picking up a new generation of redpilled young people, so this could be a turning point if we push it just a bit harder imo. I have hope for Jefferson.
I live in Sonoma, I want to break away too!
It will never happen Jefferson. What makes you think that anybody in the country wants to just hand you to seats in the Senate? Sorry man, your stuck.
>>75915178
Sadly I think you'll have to move up here. It's not much different from Sonoma tbqh, I like it better.
>>75915178
Include Sacramento and we're a ok
>>75915626
sac is a lost cause man.
it's basically a hotter portland with more beaners and shitty CA gov't workers
>>75910693
>The invisible north wants to leave
Do you not understand that you're utterly and entirely dependent on state tax dollars?
>>75915708
what do they get from state taxes?
>>75915446
>hand us seats
Yeah its not so much a handout as a legal process similar to starting a corporation. The only thing that could stop us is executive action, and president Trump WILL take the Republican help with the electoral vote and legislative representation away from crooked Kikeifornia
>>75915446
maybe it can become a commonwealth like puerto rico?
If this happens I hope it will stir enough shit that we can keep the momentum going and separate the inland counties from LA.
>>75915699
DON'T BULLY SAC
>>75915708
Maybe because the jobs that moved us up here in the first place have been banned by the liberals?
If we have fucking JOBS we can generate some fucking TAXES. Eureka California was only able to grow because it sold its soul to Staples, Walmart and McDonalds for all its residents. There are BILLIONS in natural resources in Northern California. Wed be the 18th largest state in the Union
Just imagine what kind of clusterfuck this would create. California Bureau of Reclamation would shit on Jefferson with bills those shits would never be able to afford. They think that just because they live next to a reservoir means they own it and will 'sell' the water to us. No. Metropolitan water districts own those fucking dams.
Jefferson is doomed to fail.
>>75914958
I can't stand defeatism but you are absolutely correct. Once it's common knowledge that the state is the most prosperous in the Union, the slime will ooze its way in. I would move there in a heartbeat with my family and pay my taxes and support local business, its a shame. I wish there was a way to make a new Country or perhaps a "separate" state like Puerto Rico.
I want it to happen. I would even fight for it. I live in South Carolina now. I don't know how I can help the cause.
>>75916154
>muh dams
>muh roads
Caltrans hasnt repaired roads where I live in 12 years. All their infrastructure up here is set up to power San Fagcisco and Los Beaneles they need us more than we need them. Welfare mommas will all pack up and gtfo as soon as the new state government refuses their checks.
>>75910693
Placer county here
We made it!
>>75916517
I would fight for this. i live in sf, grew up in the bay area. thinking about moving to Idaho but this just seems better.
>>75916557
Nigger, Caltrans never does fuckall, even in the bay area.
But nice try in dodging my post.
>>75916647
Bay Area refugee here too, we can do it.
>>75914958
This leaf knows how it works.
Leftists chase prosperity, vote for the very things that limit it, ruin it and then find a new place to fuck up.
>>75916517
Its already this way today. I live in McCloud California, look up some pics. Its 94% white and comfy. Almost ALL of the 90+% white towns in california with populations over 500 are HERE in Jefferson. All beans and nigs want is someone to sign dey welfare check. We wont do it. If more redpilled people come here, itll stay that way. The population is VERY low.
>>75916040
Open carry state?
State taxes/property taxes/sales tax?
how do you handle election of representatives at the state level?
Do the counties stay the same?
How much land area is federal?
>>75916734
So, is there any way we could prevent that from happening without being overtly white nationalist?
>>75916784
what kind of jobs are up there?
>>75916700
Its not even dodging. A Trump presidency WILL put Cuckifornia in its place. The CA government can try whatever it likes against the people who have followed the legal process, and they will have NO power when this is taken to the Supreme Ct
>>75910693
Get in line, buddy.
>>75916914
Nooses in trees?
>>75916734
This has been happening in Austin for a long time. Austin is my hometown and as the city council has become more liberal than it was 20+ years ago its making the cost of living here come to point where people need to move out of the city limits.
>>75916914
refuse to have any public schools? private schools only?
>>75910693
If you've ever visited up there, those counties are vastly different from the rest of California
>>75910693
>living in so-cal
How would this affect me?
Obviously I hate my shitty state
>>75917002
uhhhhhhhhhh
wait you want to live in a state full of jews and minorities? huh?
>>75917000
No, but the billions of dollars of just hydro you are now annexing will need to be paid for. California and metro water districts own those dams. They are now located in Jefferson. See the issue?
You are seizing property that is not yours.
>>75916784
Shit man that looks like an outstanding county to live in. I think I will research the local industries and see about starting a new career out there.
4th Generation American, descendant of Italian, German, and Irish. No criminal record. Combat Veteran. Have a family. I'm coming anon. Thank you.
>>75916955
Not much besides forest service & similar, and basic gas station jobs etc. This is one of the reasons why people want Jefferson. There is a lot of opportunity here for small business but it's so hard to start and maintain a small business here in CA. I want to start a small organic farm, there is land here and a market for it, but there are so many hoops to jump through and the taxes are insane.
>>75917008
Why hadn't I thought of that! Fantastic
>>75912839
Because every business that starts in cali leaves cali after getting big enough. And no multinational/big business wants to move to cali cause the fucking taxes are so high. There are entire towns in CA that would be perfect for an automaker or other heavy(non polluting) industry to move to and employ the entire county, but the taxes and restrictions imposed by the state make it impossible.
I wholeheartedly support any measure that hurts California.
Join it with a DC Statehood proposal, and you can even win over the Democrats, since they won't be afraid of a Senate imbalance.
>>75916862
You can open carry basically everywhere outside of towns iirc in unincorporated areas. Taxes are some of the lowest in the state in Siskiyou county. The counties will most likely stay the same, the Jefferson de facto capitol of Yreka is pop. 7800, and much of their commerce depends on being the county seat of Siskiyou cty. The SEmost part of OP'S PIC is mostly Federal, but most of it is unprotected and CHEAP AF for California, cheapest ive ever seen as someone who has moved alot around this shitty state.
>>75917309
good fucking call
>>75917080
I currently live in Siskyou county and have lived the rest of my life in the bay area, so I know the difference well.
>>75913834
>His political boundaries are straight lines
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
You're daily reminder that geographic boundaries that follow rivers, streams, mountains, hills, and ecosystems are the ultimate red pill.
>>75910693
I live in yellow.
Interesting to note that all of these counties have low population.
But that some of these counties want to leave because they are way more liberal than the rest of the state (if you can believe that) they want to form a Utopia of sorts, while the rest to the east are invested because of their conservativeness.
A few things that both of these sides agree however are on independence from the rest of California because of water rights, taxation and geographic remoteness.
>>75917154
I would be willing to do it for the greater good. If pic related happened, New York and Pennsylvania Would be red until the end of days. POSSIBLY even Connecticut. Nothing would be really left of Jersey, however.
>>75917425
abe lincoln set a nasty precedent for that
>>75917137
The rest of California would become even MORE liberal thanks to the secession of many of its republicans so it might crash and burn. Escape while you can tbqh
>>75917309
That D.C. trade off is an OUTSTANDING idea man. Fuck that's so obvious yet I never even considered it. Spread that message man.
>>75916914
White people aren't automatically your friends or allies. Too many white people voted for entitlement programs and use the nigger and spic to bolster their numbers by tricking them.
The silver lining here is that leftists are the ones with the lowest birthrates and most likely to suck a child out of a uterus.
I don't think there is much this new state could do to prevent it if it came to fruition. Not sure the state could outright outlaw entitlements and an insane business tax rate, but who knows.
>>75917002
Will never happen. NYC can't function without raping upstate.
>>75916914
The libs are less authoritarian up here than the SF and LA feminazis, I lived in petrolia for a while, your fucking county would die without bud and ag, and the state govment is set on crashing us with no survivors to employ their beaners in the central valley
>>75917500
That's what I figured was going to happen, I was hoping this state was going to get better with mass deportations and a wall but if CA loses it's better half I don't know if it'll be worth staying.
>>75917309
DC tradeoff is fucking 10/10 idea
>>75917461
Yes, I knew about the uber-liberals, I've met a few of them and it seems like they would prefer to leave the Jefferson conservatives alone than divide the new state further. They can stay as long as they keep to themselves.
>>75917598
A lot of our small towns up here were founded by logging and mining companies. The very old remember being kids in those times. There was racial harmony, prosperity and happiness.
>>75910693
/k/ommando here, I support it, fuck SoCal and it's dumbass gun laws. If they pass the most recent round of legislation I'm confident that NorCal will just GTFO.
>Jefferson separates
>Gets water rights
>sells bud to degenerate half of cali (make it illegal to toke but legal to grow)
Perfect
>Southern Oregon gets their own statefu with NorCal but Washington gets nobody
Who wants to be our statefu?
>>75916040
Are you from Eureka?
>>75918102
Fug off
http://www.fpiw.org/blog/2016/06/02/washington-schools-to-teach-gender-identity-curriculum-in-kindergarten/
> last year (2013)
Are all the statistics this old? The copypasta too?
Here's now: "State of Jefferson" employers are weed, man and the forest service.
Here's the future: Weed legal, only forest service employs. It's poor now and will be very poor once the dude, weed cash cow is gone.
Seriously there are not many people up there and a billion dollar industry going away will have massive repercussions.
>>75914507
Whatcha say about the Glorious Republic of North Carolina, faggot?
>>75917945
Their subhuman voter base will do whatever its told. Every day we pay taxes to these people we give just another hour of our lives to a state that is directly responsible for thousands of Illegal Immigration deaths, most notably Kate Steinle, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors who run the city like their little fiefdom, sided with the City against her parents, protecting people who murder our citizens if they are illegals. Fuck california, they want you dead.
>>75918196
no its gaining in popularity look at this
http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/02/state-of-jefferson-secessionists-california-gun-totin-rebels/
we've JUST started submitting declarations last fall, and we're at 21 today.
>>75918169
I lived in Arcadia for some time but was born in Orange county
>>75918212
You guys keep your trannies out of bathrooms
>>75912875
They've been talking about this for over 15 years now.
>>75918780
>your trannies
>out of our bathrooms
NC's the only state trying to stop it, idk what you're talking about niggerfaggot
>>75918196
What makes you think legalizing weed isnt one of our policies? We want both but not only weed. This place is being made WORSE by CA not GREAT again, the only way to make it anything other than dudeweed land is to open up the industry to logging and mining, the natural resource value up here is in the billions
>>75914958
^This for sad truth. Whenever you have something nice, there's always people around who want to fuck it up.
>>75918962
Right, but those 21 counties have voted to secede this year. The Jefferson movement has been going on since 1941 but it's picking up steam right now.
>>75918990
>you guys keep your trannies out of bathrooms
I didnt say >our bathrooms
I meant in the original comment that Republican controlled states are able to change the laws for the better and its better not to flush all of CA down the toilet.... and let us secede!
>>75919123
Implying nigs and beans can function in the country not in the inner city with welfaredonaldos and ebtmarts on every corner
You can only make new states with the consent of the original state and Congress. The state would never sacrifice tax revenue and half of Congress would never allow more senators and reps to change the balance (depending on if the state would be red or blue).
So unless you're going to just take over the territory and declare it a new state we're all screwed.
>>75919196
My apologies I misread that
>for the better
If fucking up the economy and causing political turmoil over a non-issue is "for the better." Literally gun control in reverse; a bunch of yelling over hurt feelings and "tink uvda chilluns" tbqh.
>>75919002
Talk to anyone in the industry up north and they will tell you legalization is bad for them, they know it is hypocritical but it is their life so that's that.
As for mining, California already had a gold rush. Rivers up north have huge piles of rocks where sluces tried to find gold and gold flakes. There's nothing there, man.
I've lived in nevada county for 15 years. never knew about this
While we are at it..
>>75919543
Incorrect you do not need the consent of the state
It would be GLORIOUS if the slippery slope worked in our favor for once with the establishment of this great new state. I imagine at least 10 more groups of counties making declarations around the country. I see wonderful pockets of anti-degeneracy everywhere.
Imagine going back to the way humans were meant to live - with their own kind besides conducting trades. Not in a perpetual weakened existence due to the implementation of cultural marxism. I know the chances of it happening are extremely low, but a man can dream. Every day that passes sees hundreds, perhaps thousands, join our cause or at least start to see the fnords. One day they won't be able to stop it, and the song of globalism and zionism will be snuffed out.
>>75919695
in my experience, legalization = bad, medical use with loose requirements for a license = good. I may be wrong though.
>>75919695
I know they think legalization is bad for them
Its because theyre on a big fat WEED BUBBLE. And bubbles are a liability which is why theyre developing Eureka so fast, the working class of Northern California shouldnt just grow dope and nothing else, thats really only northWESTERN California too desu, we need jobs in Logging and mining and not mcdonalds. There are YUGE reserves of Granite in the Sierras. I also know the gold rush happened in 1849 and that its over. There are other things to mine but gold here.
>>75919958
>A perpetual weakend existence
So fucking true. Globalism is the BIGGEST liability to the survival of our civilization. Seems like nobody these days knows ANYTHING about generating a real surplus of tools, food, or goods. Itll be an amazing time in California history if Jefferson can return to the model that settled it in the mid 1800s in the first place.
>>75919908
I live in that little pink Zone in Pennsylvania. What makes you think making it its own state will do anything. There's nothing here. Our largest town has around 10,000 people, and is 54% black. If Monroe, Carbon, Pike, and Northampton counties become there own state, we're fucked hard.
>>75920798
>54% black
i'm so sorry
Why do seal designers feel the need to state what it is?
This is p ugly
>>75920947
Yeah, pic related are the exact numbers. Thank God I don't live in it, I live on the opposite end of the county, in a 92% town. Still, the nogs spill over, trying to escape their own stupidity, my little brother's high school is packed with them, and half of them aren't even in an area served by the school.
>>75921261
*92%white
>>75921194
X X = No to welfare/ebt/snap, and no to shitskins that are sleepwalking through a hedonistic lifestyle.
If you know what the two X's symbolize, please pill me on it and I would be grateful. I could look it up online but I don't trust jewpedia
>>75920462
K. Just saying if Jefferson would become a state it would be poorer than Kentucky. Which is why it will not happen. It would be great if Northern California was more developed but it's still kind of a wilderness.
>>75921194
I thought so too at first but now I like it. The fact that the XX stands for this area being double-crossed by the American government is badass enough to let the design slide imo
>>75921194
The gold circles are supposed to be a gold pan for panning for gold
Every year I hear this shit.
It's not happening.
Get over it.
>>75921442
The seal stands for this area being double-crossed by California's government.
>>75921456
The reason its so poor is because there are no high paying jobs here i.e. logging/ mining, which i have been shilling this whole thread. Lower taxes and relaxed regulations can and will draw manufacturing and milling
So yes as of now it is poor. This is the best thing we can do to make it not so fucking poor. Because if it stays California absolutely nothing will change about it except the last white conservative counties in norcal getting white genocided
>>75921442
Double crossed by Oregon and California
>>75921261
Fuck man imagine having to deal with pic related...
You can go back to 1910 and watch as time progresses the higher the nig density gets, the worse the city gets.
>>75921598
Nice shitpost lurk moar faggot wevw gotten 21 county declarations and are threatening legal action. Ids habbening. If you were here, you would see. Its the most nationalistic iver ever seen californians, and i say this as a lifelong californian.
>>75921758
>>75921844
I love it!!!!! Thanks anons
>>75921930
what does a county declaration even mean? how far along in the process is that?
>>75910693
Please take the right leaning norhthern cities of sac county with you.
>>75921906
Is that Detroit? Damn, feels pretty bad.
>>75922029
http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/02/state-of-jefferson-secessionists-california-gun-totin-rebels/
here is the timeline. the county board of supervisors has voted in each of these 21 counties to send a declaration of intent to secede from the State of California. there's nothing legally preventing us from doing it, it could just be blocked by executive action, which is why the leadership is going to wait until after the election to take it to the supreme court.
>>75917137
San Diego here. Would move to Jefferson in a heartbeat desu
>>75915626
>>75915699
Refer to >>75922051
Most sacramento is very liberal and a hell hole. The suburbs north predominantly vote more conservative.
Orangevale, folsom, fair oaks,citrus heights, and maybe carmichael. The rest are lost causes.
>>75915178
Healdsburg reporting in.
>>75921930
Its not going to happen faggot.
I live in Shasta and the majority here are against it.
Only people around here wanting secession are rednecks who want to grow weed on public land and make meth in their double-wide.
>>75913562
This is spot on.
>>75910693
Let 714 join you
This is hilarious. There are very few people or industry in that part of the state. You would be bankrupt almost instantly.
Why does /pol/ think land can vote?
>>75923397
Sweet dude im psyched to see youd rather stay in Càlifornía ese because were already majority beaner here and its not getting any better any time soon
>>75910693
I would move there
>>75924030
Over 1 million is somehow very few?
Implying the state of California isnt tens of billions in debt just a ticking timebomb of bankruptcy and everyone knows it. Its better than being drowned in the beaner horde. Im a resident and i voted for a proJefferson candidate. Im not land, im a voter. You act like wed be a totally new country but wed just lower taxes cut regulations and put our people back to work. Google McCloud California and see what we were capable of when willing to chop down some trees
>>75917002
Carbon and Lehigh are PA's fuck off
>>75924559
They're almost as cucked as us.
t. Monroe County
>>75924066
>were already majority beaner.
I live in the north where niggers and spics are rare.
Go back to growing your almonds you southern cunt.
Salem resident here. My family has a stash off silver and gold put together so we can all relocate to Jefferson. We plan on investing in logging and milling as soon as Jefferson is free. My Dad started saving for this years ago. We have about $350,000 worth right now.
>>75924943
If you still live with your family, stop telling people about that. You shouldn't even say it here.
Not trying to be a douche, I am genuinely trying to help you.
>>75924913
I live in McCloud which is 94% white. We are both currently in the state of California. Look at the demographics! we're majority Latino even if our towns or cities arent. That doesnt mean it will continue to be this way forever. Oregon was 97% white in 1970 now its 75% of babies born and dropping fast. Its just a matter of dominoes and diversity. Besides you want to continue paying for benefits for illegal beaners that commit offenses, get deported and just come back in to shoot innocent people in the head a la kate steinle?
>>75924943
Why family is from North Cal, but was forced to leave due to money troubles. My dad,brother and I have been moving from state to state following the work.
Jefferson bros? Will we be welcomed back?
>>75924825
Without the nogs in Philly and fags in Pittsburg controlling everything we would have a great state and two great cities.
>>75925278
Whites only
N-N-NOOOOO, BAD GOYIM.....
THOSE EXTRA 15+ ELECTORS ARE NEEDED FOR THE LIBERAL NOMINEE IN NOVEMBER.... YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE...
Welcome the Führer of the Jefferson State
FUCK OFF FAGS
WE'RE FIRST IN LINE TO BE 51ST STATE
>>75925338
We are white. Family is all Trump supporters. Only odd bit is my Dad and bro are evangelicals, mom is catholic, and I am Mormon.
>>75925710
You voted against it. Like six times now...
Will this happen before the election?
>>75925715
come home then
>>75925177
I don't want to pay for that shit, but I'm not going to vote for secession, when the people promoting are a bunch of weed growers, or ranch welfare queens wanting to deregulate the north state and fuck up the environment which Is what makes this area great.
>>75925653
kek
>>75910693
OY VEY GOYIM YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE TOLERANCE HOW RASICT
But seriously, this is how balkanization starts. That being said, Commiefornia is a hellhole and it'd be better to just give it back to Mexico in exchange for funding the wall.
I'm really impressed.
I did not know about this proposed state until now ...
Not will be Puerto Rico the 51st state?
>>75910693
I hope they do it and I hope the Bay Area does it too. Fuck Sacramento and fuck LA
>>75925801
100% INCORRECT
The last vote we had on the matter was a 2012 referendum that showed 61% of voters favored statehood.
Given the current situation and the legislation to be proposed in your Congress, a proper, binding referendum on our status is increasingly likely.
We will be the 51st state, and it'll happen within 10 years.
>>75910693
This needs to happen. That and Californians need to stop saying shit like "As goes California, so does the nation." The only thing they produce is nuts and Dan Schneider names.
>>75925863
>weed welfare queens
>ranching welfare queens
Implying the whole movement wasnt invented to stopping statism and they wouldnt just be contributing taxpayers, shit i can grow 400$ for each one of my weed plants, also i only eat food i raise on my property, so you could really be benefitting but youre so cucked you think Gavin Newsome needs to hold your hand and tell you which milk you can and cant buy or what chickens you can or cant eat without muh USDA processing oligarchy. Or maybe which beach you can stand on or semiauttymatickmachineshooty to vote to ban. Leftypol is that way
>>75926339
I would like that. As I understand it, you guys would be a red state, no? IIRC this one anon was talking about you guys having yuuuge Anti-gay and tranny rallies, right out in a town square. Sounded like the Cubans x10
JEFFERSON FAGS REPORT IN
530/916
>>75926339
>We will be the 51st state, and it'll happen within 10 years.
Of course...
>>75925951
This is us trying to save the last pure parts of a once great state
>>75921761
>implying anyone in the political system thinks its a bad thing
>>75925710
>WE'RE FIRST IN LINE TO BE 51ST STATE
>Jefferson votes to split in 1941
>not first in line
FEK OFF M8
>>75910693
As a Texan, I support this. I wouldn't wish LA on anybody.
>>75926785
And they got cockblocked by the Japanese
150 replies in and not one person has brought up how it would require not only everyone in Cali to be OK with it, but also the legislative branch would have to have a say in it, and it's 100% unlikely SCOTUS would take this up, the Constitution is cut and dry in this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_3:_New_states_and_federal_property
>>75922959
Thanks fort the back up
>>75917305
That's fucking ridiculous, direct ocean access to the Largest population density on the planet and theyre forced to grow fucking weed on it.
>>75926546
Probably a swing state.
There's a lot of social conservatism and not a lot of political correctness here, but there's also the poorer, pro-nanny state communities that tend to favor the gibsmedats. A lot of the younger generations are more left-leaning, but many if not most of them are migrating to the mainland already.
>>75916009
SAC FUCKING SUCKS TODD
>>75926925
Theres definitely an intergenial element to it. The political landscape has changed since then and come full circle all over. What this movement needs is youthful energy behind it.
>>75926471
>claims my I'm liberal
>admits to growing weed.
fuck off you degenerate. Go back to fucking your sister you know nothing hill nigger.
>>75910693
you need to present the same idea to liberals for liberal reasons, then you might get your wish
Any Jfags going to Trumps rally in Redding tomorrow? Wave the double X's high and if you can tell the God Emperor about our struggle
>>75911690
>not including the rest of Alaska
We would probably be the foremost power in a Balkanized America either way 2bh though
Can Texas break up into 5 states too. 4/5 will be red and the GOP can have like 20 electoral votes guaranteed to be on par with democrats.
>>75927322
I want to but I can't get out of work, please do it extra for my sake Jfags
>>75926951
Its ignorant people like you that have driven California straight into the grave since 1965. Is the weed that i, a degenerate, smokes really more important than ALL of the counties except SLO south of San Francisco are majority Mexican now? All you have is ad hominem and a red face over fucking nothing m8
>>75926546
Cubans and Ricans are natural enemies of the Mexican
>>75927542
I cant go, its to far for such short notice
>>75921906
>Race composition goes from 90% white to 90% nonwhite in 70 years
>one lifetime
Holy shit
>>75926951
if it weren't for water rights they'd go along with it
>>75927047
where you located at pedro
>>75925710
>>75926339
Fuck off Puerto Rico we have enough minority leeches in our country already.
>>75926546
They would go blue almost assuredly. Hawaii 2.0
>>75913012
Praise kek
>>75926951
Sorry meant for
>>75927118
>>75910693
Sounds like a good idea. You shouldn't have to stay attached to the tumor down south.
>>75928015
Pearl Harbor and 9/11 happened
>>75928111
Why yes, yes it did.
>>75917002
Everyone not in that picture would love this.
>>75910693
Probably won't happen, but I hope it does.
A non-cucked Pacific Northwest state would be great to have.
>>75910693
i support this
t. New Jerseyite
>>75910693
Balkanization is the end-product of history.
Kalifornia needs to be Balkanized in the next few years.
>>75927475
>Cascadia
>power in Balkanized America
>Literally one of the most irrelevant areas
ewe lad
>>75917002
>tfw Mercer
Honestly as a Princeton student I wouldn't care since I'm trying to bust out of here after finishing my BA and go to Oxford or LSE.
>>75910693
Always hoped upper peninsula michigan would be 51, well i guess 52 is well enough.
>>75928706
Needs to be balkanized now for ANY hope of an America that looks like the one of antiquity
>>75925319
>harrisburg
>great
t. york county
>>75929341
I forget about harrisburg
>>75914958
This is why you need to draft a state constitution that literally makes all liberal ideas illegal. So that even if they get in charge, they cant do shit. Make it so that they would need a 9/10th's majority to amend the constitution. Also the state constitution should be guided by civil law rather than common law (that way liberal judges have no way to alter it).
Shit like a super 2nd amendment so that no gun laws can be passed period. A balanced budget law so that high spending ideas are not feasible. A constitutional ban on income taxes. A constitutional limit on types of taxes that may be levied in addition to what rates taxes are limited to. Etc... Design your constitution imagining liberals and globalists will be in charge and only give them the powers that you would see necessary.
>>75910693
Just shell Southern California until they agree to stop bothering you, or until they are all dead.
You are guaranteed to a degree of 100.00000% to fail if you "petition and ask nicely" to leave.
>>75929953
i like those legal proposals. hopefully the culture of who moves there will take care of the socially liberal bs
>>75917309
Can you please explain this for someone not to well versed in the subject?
>>75931378
Basically, the Democrats would fiercely fight the addition of a new Republican state because it would add two new senate members to the U.S. senate. The D.C. tradeoff would entail Washington, D.C. becoming an official (blue) state in the case of the addition of the new red state (Jefferson) so the senate would be balanced.
>>75922959
Ehh I wouldn't recommend Carmichael. It's next door to American River College and that is a bumfuckery of numale gay liberals. My classes last semester were filled with anti-republicans, including the instructors. My army vet buddy has a low chance for a manager position on campus because they are wanting a woman to fill the role.
Also fuck Davis, shitty fog college liberal town with a nice elevation for concentrated pollution.
>>75931785
So basically, "We'll let you have DC, if you let us have Jefferson". I see.
By the way, apart from black people, why would DC be a blue state?
>>75932030
Washington, D.C. has never voted republican, ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_election_results_by_state
>>75929953
What's the likelihood that something like that could happen?
>>75929953
Probably wouldn't work, the SC is going to be loaded with libtards for the next 30+ years, especially if trump doesn't win, and the SC cock slapped like 2-3 dozen states that had constitutional bans on gay marriage and right to work laws by legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states and saying that even if you weren't in a union you had to pay union dues in a union store.
>>75931785
they would probably still complain since Jefferson would have a larger population and thus more HoR's members, though they'd still be coming out ahead by keeping California and then gaining 2 more sure dem votes with DC.
>>75935050
Jefferson would have less than 1.5 million people excluding Souther Oregon
>>75911982
Tfw I'm in Sacramento and won't get to live in glorious Jefferson.
>>75919569
>tfw trannies have to stick to their biological bathroom
>>75910693
Because of the whole, 2 senators for every state deal, any state subdivision would never be accepted unless it was part of a measure to allow would be blue states to enter the union.
Ideally congress could negotiate a right-wing succession In NY and Cali in exchange for Puerto Rico and DC be added as states. totaling 54 states without a current change in senate balance.
don't you guys realize that naming the new state 'Jefferson' is naming your state after a slaveowner?
>>75938322
OHNOOOOOOOOOOO not ebin slavemaster!
WEVE BEEN TRICKED!
>>75936216
Ya, I was just looking at the federal zone number or whatever it was called on Wikipedia, I see now that the metro area of D.C. has around 6 million people, fuck that, pretty terrible trade for the rest of the US even if poor Jeffersonian keep getting fucked.
May I remind you that Texas has already tried to legally secede from the Union itself and that it was only stopped because Congress deemed it "unconstitutional". It's bullshit. They got 250,000 signatures on the first poll, which only covered a small part of the state anyway. Lets Texit already.
>>75911690
My body is ready
>>75939651
we're not proposing secession from the Union, but from California
>>75939848
you can keep Humboldt if you reaaaaaally want it
>>75913395
Oh, wait, Scalia's dead....
I have family in Glenn county, is it nice out there? I'd totally move there if this actually happens.
the sad thing about jefferson is that taking Douglas, Klamath, Josephine and Curry would tilt Oregon so far blue it would be worse than California.
Theres no modern Jefferson movement in the legislature in oregon at this point
