The closer to Hobbes you get, the more redpilled you are.
http://selectsmart.com/PHILOSOPHY/
Thomas Hobbes once said life in the state of nature is "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." It's worth noting that in the 17th century "nasty" literally meant "shitty."
Glad to hear it
>>75816383
We got pretty similar results, but I generally don't like what I recall of J.S. Mill and Bentham. There isn't much life in their philosophy, which I guess is probably useful in a more general sort of way.
I think a lot of Rousseau would be good for spotting the SJWs.
>>75817514
Hah! Just as I predicted! Hobbes is the philosopher of /pol/.
"The passion of laughter is nothing else but a sudden glory arising from sudden conception of some eminency in ourselves, by comparison with the infirmities of others, or with our own formerly..."
Am I a commie?
I thought I would align more with Ayn Rand...
/pol/ just hates Rousseau, apparently.
>>75815854
Am I based?
1. Plato (100%)
2. Aristotle (90%)
3. Benedictus Spinoza (88%)
4. Thomas Aquinas (85%)
5. St. Augustine (84%)
6. Stoics (66%)
19. William of Ockham (24%)
20. Nel Noddings (22%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)
Expected, excepted Stoics should be higher.
>Ayn Rand
>Aristotle
Not sure how i feel about this
>>75818469
Sartre was aligned with the party, but his conception of "communism" was pretty different from Stalin's. Back then, joining the communist party in France was more of an anti-American gesture than pro-Communism.
HOBBES HUMES NIETZCHE MASTER RACE
ALL OTHERS ARE SPINELESS KEKS WITH NO TRUE UNDERSTANDING
>>75819271
You must believe in God in order to have gotten so much Plato. I love that one bit from Aristotle about how he instructed Alexander to rule over barbarians as if they were beasts.
No surprise about the Ayn Rands. They must be oldfags. Personally can't stand the hag.
>>75819527
Right on! I'm surprised there aren't more Christfags in this thread with Plato on top.
>Jean-Paul Sartre (100%)
No idea what this means...
100% Aristotle
94% Hobbes
Technology changes but people don't.
>>75815854
Wrong
Diogenes of Sinope is the ultimate redpill
Anyone who doesn't understand this is a neckbeard faggot who has little to no experience with life
>>75819899
I'd be more concerned about all that Thomas Aquinas.
>>75819871
Christianity on /pol/ is contrarian role playing in response to cultural marxist attacks on the faith
Most of /pol/ are rationalists
>>75819899
Same here
>>75820014
Diogenes said some witty things, but I would rather have a more comfortable life than his. People like him amuse me and capture my attention, but then they are forgotten about.
I'm happy with my results, but I might trigger some /pol/lacks.
>>75820058
I have no interest in god or religion, so not sure how that got in there.
>>75820349
There were several questions where I took the "none of the above" option, though.
>>75820109
Though this is pretty much the opposite of my actual philosophy so I can't really speak for the accuracy of this test
So autism?
I can dig it
>>75815854
I can easily see matching with Hobbes, but the test is shit. (Nothing for nihilists.)
>>75815854
>>75816383
>>75817514
>>75818469
>>75819170
>>75819899
>>75820109
>>75820332
>>75820472
>>75820520
I think we can all agree that Rousseau is shit-tier.
>>75820654
Yeah, they have Nietzsche as a result, but none of the options for the questions seemed to indicate nihilism.
>>75820349
Thomas Aquinas isn't just "muh religion." Essentially he takes Aristotelian logic with a few leaps of faith to prove that God exists. You probably have some grand notions of how life is but are either blind or willingly ignore glaring contradictions to your personal philosophy and are incapable of changing then.
>>75820472
Stoics are pretty badass and tough, but in the 21st century a stoic ethic is autistic especially with the others you got.
Nietzsche 100%
Sartre 87%
Hume 84%
Hobbes 68%
I don't really know anything about any of them besides Nietzsche.
>>75820654
>nothing
>for nihilism
seems appropriate to me
>>75815854
You cucks really need to get on my level
I'll be honest, never read any of the top four and bottom three. Am I missing anything worth reading?
>>75820840
Fug
Whatever niggers I'm Plato
>>75820861
> Satre
end yourself right now
I know very little about philosophy.
>>75815854
What the hell am I?
>>75820861
sorry top 3 bottom 3
>>75820654
>>75820752
Well, no one actually is a nihilist because everyone has values by which they live their life. Nietzsche isn't an exception because all he really did was identify nihilism and gave a few protips on how to deal with nihilism now that "God is dead." Even an infant or a sloth is incapable of nihilism because of their survival instinct.
The only acceptable answers are Plato, Aristotle, Hobbes, and Augustine, maybe Nietzsche if you wanna be an edgy faggot. Everything else is liberalism and degenracy
Am I the legendary based leaf?
>>75815854
Eh, I'm happy with these results
>>75820881
>Leaf
>Hobbes isn't above 50%
>>75821037
I agree, however they could have still had options like "there is no meaning" or "there is no good and evil" or "everything is meaningless."
People still believe this stuff even if they can't actually practice it. Maybe it's inconsistent to do so, but how else can we categorize such people if not as nihilists, at least nominally?
1. Aristotle (100%)
2. Benedictus Spinoza (98%) 3. Stoics (98%)
4. Thomas Aquinas (87%)
5. Plato (87%)
I don't know anything about philosophers. Is this good or bad?
>>75820881
So this is the second religionfag in the thread. grats.
>>75820972
Well, I predicted from the start that /pol/ would get Hobbes and I was right. Rousseau is probably the closest there is on there to an "SJW" philosopher.
>>75820980
Essentially you believe the greatest good in society is to maximize collective happiness through continual "progress." Your personal philosophy could be described as either "classical liberalism" or "utilitarianism." Not very /pol/, desu, but very normie and Britbong/American.
>>75821174
> Sate
> Le dark distant urban French faggot cuck
> Le everything is meaningless and you should question all authority le
> Le above statement is also a statment from authority so everything I say is a contradiction le
>>75821239
Plato is absolutely superior to the Hobbes cuck
>>75821273
Sounds like you lean towards virtue ethics. I approve. Not sure if others here do or not.
>>75815854
>>75816383
>>75817514
>>75819170
>>75819527
>>75820654
>>75820861
>>75820972
>>75820980
The standard of being redpilled is whether or not you get close to Thomas Aquinas, so you've lost
>>75818469
>>75819271
>>75819899
>>75820109
>>75820472
>>75820520
>>75820748
>>75820881
You win
Especially >>75820332
>>75821304
Yes I belive that there is an absolute ideal form of morality that is trancedental and endless.
>>75821262
Do you just not understand? Nihilism is the first step. There are answers in this quiz, such as "there is no inherent meaning, you have to make one" and "good and evil are relative to the person".
>>75821037
>Everyone has values by which they live their life.
You can speak for everyone?
>Even an infant or a sloth is incapable of nihilism because of their survival instinct.
You can care about your own survival without seeing any intrinsic or objective value, meaning, or purpose in it.
>>75820264
>but I would rather have a more comfortable life than his
His position in life was completely up to him and he chose what he had.
There is nothing in what he said that would prevent you form living with a higher standard than he
>>75821369
But leaf, I got 70% Aquinas. Is that not close?
I got 100% St. Augustine.
What does that mean?
>>75820916
>>75821077
>>75821317
>>75821335
What a sad, angry philosophy leaf you are
>>75821416
Yeah, maybe I forgot about there being some nihilist answers, since I didn't pay attention to them and I'm not a nihilist. Not sure what you think I'm not understanding.
>>75821077
Your response is only appropriate if you actually believe in religion. It is impossible to agree with Plato if you don't take religion literally.
>>75821262
Perhaps in name as you said, but then they are just "bad nihilists" as they are "bad Christians" because they are literally calling themselves something they are not. Perhaps the only true nihilists in this world are non-sentient things and forces.
>>75820752
HE WASNT A NIHILIST YOU FUCKING FAG
THATS LIKE CALLING A DETECTIVE A CRIMINAL
>>75821369
>Christianity
>redpilled
Oy quite the hearty chuckle there leaf
A lot of people here gravitate toward Jean-Paul Sartre it seems.
>>75821586
Plato never took religion or the gods literally
> Burger educashion
>>75821445
Yeah but you got a bunch of bad things above that, like Hobbes and Spinoza, so you got downgraded
>>75821037
>I know fuckall about Nihilism but I'll talk about it anyway as if I do to impress my internet friends
>>75821416
Or I could just say, "there is no inherent meaning; there just is no real good or evil." There is no holy objective to make one, and people tend to just make them up because there is nothing else to do.
>>75821608
It's funny but Satre is everything pol hates, he is basically post-modernism and critical theory
>>75815854
I am the one they call based.
>>75821638
Plato isn't part of public education faggot
You have to take philosophy classes in College or look it up yourself if you want to know any of it.
Fuck off with your state funded commie camps
>>75821608
That's because Sartre is the father of,"Fuck you take the blame for your life instead of pointing fingers like a giant faggot."
>>75821607
Enjoy LARPing as le dark philosopher who sees past all the silly illusions of the past XDDDD
See you at the cafe XDDDD
>>75821587
Okay, fine, I get your analogy.
Then how would you characterize him?
>>75821770
Best so far
:)
>>75815854
>>75821262
I practice it
>>75815854
>>75821770
>Sartre
>That far down the list
>Based
Kill yourself faggot
>>75821868
> Plato isn't part of public education faggot
Like I said:
>Burger educashion
r8 h8
Why no Japanese...?
How do I interpret the results? Good or bad?
checkmate atheists
How would you rate this?
>>75821571
I didn't mean to come off as aggressive. I was just trying to emphasize that Nietzsche a nihilist, his philosophy was coping with nihilism. The answers aren't "everything is meaningless" but rather "meaning is subjective and personal".
>>75822071
Very good you're not a cuck
>>75815854
Aristotle 100%
Jean-Paul Sartre (100%)
Stoics (96%)
Cynics (92%)
Thomas Aquinas (80%)
Thomas Hobbes (77%)
Interesting.
>>75821378
Oh, yes? Did God tell you this?
>>75822028
Aristotle>Socrates>>>>>>Plato
>>75822071
Yeah, the quiz is clearly a quiz of western ethics. It probably doesn't line up well with what you would be more familiar with.
Aristotle is virtue ethics.
>>75819084
Everything from the French Revolution on is pretty much his fault, so it's entirely deserved.
>>75822023
Sartre was a fedora neckbeard by today's standards.
Really makes you think.....
Well this is interesting.
>>75822028
If I remember correctly it isn't part of yours either cunt
Just like here you have to be at a private school or religious institution in order to get any kind of real education
And unlike you both our private and religious schools teach us economics without having to actively seek it out in college to get the most basic nominal understanding of it.
American Public schools btfo every other public school in the west(including straya)
Happy with results, Mill is GOAT
>>75822171
No I believe Universals exist independently of particulars
rate me
christcuck reporting in
>>75821893
Oh man one more XD and you'd look like a butthurt cuck who worships a dead jew
Thank god you used just enough to appear witty, intelligent and unscathed by the lightest of criticism
A true champion of the faith right here
>>75821922
I dont know what you mean, he talked about a lot of things mate
>>75822200
Socrates never wrote anything. Everything we know about him comes from Plato. The differences between Plato and Aristotle are metaphysical but not really significant
>>75815854
Accurate.
Aristotle was always my favorite.
Statists BTFO.
Moral relativists BTFO.
Who /aynrand/ here
Gas the moral relativists, crusade now.
What does this mean boys?
>>75821934
>:)
>Stoic
>>75822003
Full picture
>>75822217
Look at the time he was alive in though, by current standards he would be redpill as fuck if you took into consideration the perimeters of when and where he grew up and lived.
And unlike fedoras in either instance he wasn't doing it to just be edgy
This quiz has to be fucked up.
Based on the results people are posting, it seems impossible for Rousseau to be in the top 10.
Either that or we all agree he is shit.
>>75815854
#1 Jean-Paul "enemies at 12 and 10" Sartre
#2 Ayn Rand
#3 JSM
>>75822278
Ok yes I went to private school and we had a class on Plato. You are number one. You're number one. Calm down.
>>75822402
>stoic philosophy means you cannot feel emotion
Wew lad you're in the wrong fucking thread
> get Thomas Aquanis 1st, St. Augustine 2nd
> am a dirty atheist
Maybe it's time I convert.
>>75822375
>Plato
>Statists BTFO
>>75822397
It means stop wearing that cross around your neck faggot
>>75822348
I meant how would you characterize his ethics.
Alright faggots tell me what I am
so what am i exactly?
Did I do good /pol/?
>>75815854
Oh no, i got 100% Ayn Rand
Master-race reporting in.
>>75822546
Virtue ethics, highly compatible with Christianity.
>>75821369
Aquinas is a meme philosopher
>>75822437
We all agree he's shit and basically aligns with SJW thought.
What's all this then?
>>75822462
It's not an accomplishment you faggot
Being #1 in public school is still a joke considering the standards
>>75822476
>Not being a cuck to a bunch of dune coon hallucinogenic writings is bad
Whatever you say pal
>there are posters on pol RIGHT NOW that don't believe in the Christian God
I'll pray you find the right path
>>75822600
brother were both 100% Thomas Aquinas
>>75822437
>Either that or we all agree he is shit.
He is. He believed in complete freedom and totalitarian dictatorship and anrcho-primitivism at the same time
did anyone get >20% jean-jacques Rousseau?
>>75821428
How is care for one's survival NOT a value? You might downplay your survival, but the fact that you care for yourself at all is a value.
>>75822661
I want to believe. I feel empty inside and i hope God can help, so I've started to read the bible
>>75822528
Im not sure if Id even call it ethics, he goes "beyond good and evil", I may be wrong but I believe he thought that humans should become the Ubermench instead of the small nihlists, but didn't characterize it as good or evil
>>75815854
Do I win?
>>75822375
>Plato
>statists btfo
Read the republic my white friend
>>75815854
Am I good?
>>75822661
Does that mean you'll be praying when I jerk off?
If so I'll make sure to take a while next time just to disgust you
Christfags are literally the lowest tier of whites
>>75821304
I want to maximise my own happiness, and the unhappiness of others infringes that. And sometimes their joy is my suffering. That's also unacceptable.
I don't really see how I compare to a normal american, my personal philosophy is probably closer to the idea that "brave new world" is a fairly ideal state of affairs, eg, "I'm awfully glad I'm not an Alpha".
Theres nothing really wrong with utilitarianism. I think that groups like IS, or in general uneducated, out of control third worlders, should simply be put down, since they have no utility, either to themselves or others. Their only interests are biological, human interests and there are too many of them to actually ever achieve this.
>>75815854
Am I doing it right?
>>75815854
I'm apparently a Stoic
Thomas Hobbes was autistic btw.
>>75815854
Behaviour is genetic.
Mass slaughter of the harmful and inferior is the only way to construct a better society.
>>75822783
If Aristotle were higher this would be perfect
>>75822783
What am I /pol/?
rate me /pol/
>>75815854
Based Hobbes
>>75820014
Diogenes is the best philosopher. My band has many songs about him, our stage shows pay him tribute.
>>75822874
How could he not be?
>>75822904
Edgy faggot
Not too surprised by the results, though I would have bet on Mill beating out Sartre.
>>75815854
100% Augustine = 0% Heresy
I got 100 percent kant. Whats that mean?
>Ayn Rand (100%)
I guess I have gotten in touch with my inner merchant over the years.
>>75821369
The true Red Pill is walking in the footsteps of Augustine.
>John Stuart Mill
>Aristotle
>Immanuel Kant
>Ayn Rand
>Thomas Aquinas
>Stoics
How did I do.
Half of these names I sadly don't know
Thomas Hobbes= Might Makes right. No morality. The state can kill you at any time. You cannot overthrow the state. Deal with it faggot.
>>75822930
Please tell me you drag a giant pot on stage when you do
Step aside, plebs.
>>75823037
You believe in the power of reason and empiricism in a non-cucked sort of way since Arsitotle is first.
>>75823003
I still don't get why murderface never got facial re-constructive surgery
He had more money than over half the world's nations
Thomas Hobbs is literally kike-tier bullshit
>>75823195
Yes he would be completely ok with Stalin or with a globalist totalitarian state.
>>75815854
John Stuart Mill is literally, objectively, unequivocally the correct answer, in the same way that 4 is the correct answer of, What is 2 plus 2? The only people who would disagree are edgy relativists, deluded hat-tipping libertarians, or full-retard godfags.
>>75822476
Your atheism is probably based on flawed reasoning or you simply don't understand the questions. For example, most reasonable people are actually agnostic and don't take things on "faith" which is what atheism is, a "leap of faith."
I will admit, this quiz is hard, but it's probably the best one I have ever seen for this subject.
>>75815854
>Nietzsche
The ultimate hypocrite fedora master
Congratulations.
>>75822908
>Aquinas
>Aristotle
>Plato
>Augustine
would crusade against degeneracy with
Well, maybe I should read more Hobbes
>>75819794
Several questions distinguish between God as a source of morality, and the Platonic realm of forms as a source of morality (even though the Platonic realm of forms must be either God or related intimately to God)
>>75822866
Here are my results, r8 it
>>75820109
>>75819899
Existentialism (/ɛɡzJˈstɛnʃəlJzəm/)[1] is a term applied to the work of certain late-19th- and 20th-century European philosophers who, despite profound doctrinal differences,[2][3][4] shared the belief that philosophical thinking begins with the human subject—not merely the thinking subject, but the acting, feeling, living human individual.[5] While the supreme value of existentialist thought is commonly acknowledged to be freedom, its primary virtue is authenticity.[6] In the view of the existentialist, the individual's starting point is characterized by what has been called "the existential attitude", or a sense of disorientation and confusion in the face of an apparently meaningless or absurd world.[7] Many existentialists have also regarded traditional systematic or academic philosophies, in both style and content, as too abstract and remote from concrete human experience.[8][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism
How's this?
This is kind of a strange test. These questions are incredibly difficult to answer by nature.
>>75823254
How is he hypocrite
Ill wait..
>>75823276
Well do you believe that there is a truth and that truth is true or that there are many truths?
>>75823302
>>75823329
Both good
>>75823181
Pretty sure he did but it didn't turn out the way he was expecting and made himself look like a bigger freak than he already was.
But idk if I am remembering right it's been years since I've seen that episode.
>>75822535
We'd probably get on well. I'm OP. You are a moral relativist. You believe there is no such thing as absolute morality and that what defines morality changes with the times.
alright
>>75815854
>not being based Spinozist
kill yourself
>>75823273
Just read Leviathan
>>75822645
You are an autist.
>>75815854
Don't tell me what's red pilled and what isn't
>>75823457
I'll look into it, Half Price Books has a sale starting Friday, I'll pick up Meditations and Leviathan.
What am I? Halp
>>75823448
>le pan theism
shaking my head tbqh
I've studied a lot about Stoic philosophy (especially Marcus Aurellius) so I'm glad it matches that well, but that 75% for Ayn Rand is unsettling.
Makes sense as I'm an econfag whom also has degrees in political science and philosophy.
>>75823513
Fedora
>>75823273
>fuck Rousseau
DELET THIS
>>75815854
I disagree OP.
>>75823447
ah fuck sake
aparently, im too tired for names
R8 me, guys.
Aristotle (100%)
John Stuart Mill (94%)
Immanuel Kant (86%)
Jeremy Bentham (77%)
Thomas Aquinas (75%)
Rosseau is, of course, in the last place because he's a fucking cuck.
1. Thomas Aquinas (100%)
2. St. Augustine (98%)
3. William of Ockham (84%)
4. Benedictus Spinoza (79%)
5. Jean-Paul Sartre (77%)
6. Stoics (77%)
7. Plato (67%)
8. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (62%)
9. Immanuel Kant (60%)
10. Aristotle (58%)
11. Jeremy Bentham (56%)
12. John Stuart Mill (56%)
13. Thomas Hobbes (50%)
14. David Hume (50%)
15. Ayn Rand (47%)
16. Cynics (41%)
17. Prescriptivism (39%)
18. Nel Noddings (32%)
19. Epicureans (24%)
20. William James (20%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)
>>75822437
He is.
Aquinas squad represent
side note: How the fuck are you going to have William James and Nel Noddings and no Kierkegaard and Pascal?
>>75819386
did you go to a catholic highschool by any chance
>>75822853
Utilitarianism is akin to Pragmatism which is the dominant philosophy in America. Most Americans care more about what is useful than what is beautiful. The British mostly think this way also making them different from people like the French, Italians, etc. It's why Anglo nations are so similar. I don't think pragmatism or utilitarianism is bad, just boring.
OH FUCK NOT SARTRE
THIS SHIT IS RIGGED
>>75823698
>Aquinas 100%
>Augustine 98%
>Sartre is somehow at 77% despite the above 2
Think the quiz is a bit screwy tbqh, but good result
I got 100% Ayn Rand, please tell me what this means for me
>>75822879
This Frenchman probably has the most interesting results because no one else has had any like his. Felicitations, Pierre.
>>75823332
yeah, it's tough to pick yes and no, multi-choice format answers for moral/philosophical questions that could each be talked about and debated for hours
>>75815854
Liberty fuckers
>>75815854
>>75822980
Autist.
who aristotle here
>>75822980
Dude, i’m gonna type as sober as possible, that honestly is fcking pathetic and digusting compared to my philosopher. and I’m being one hundred percent serious. Sorry we dont believe in postulates of pure practical reason. you’re a fuking joke dude, and im dead fuking serious. gert areal philosopher that cooks good food, drinks beer and wine and winecoolers and has a good fuking time, and has a milliondollar house on the beach, im seriously.. dont eever potst your fuking poverty philosopher on these forums ever the fuk again bro, and by bro i mean never my bro, fuking phaggot.
>>75823832
It means we are the goodest of goyim
>>75823850
exactly
That's surprising, to say the least. I shall read her book.
>>75823512
It's written in old english (hath, doth, thine, etc) but read chapter summaries, it's worth it.
>>75824079
Don't, it'll make you autistic
>>75822645
hi friendo. kant touch this
Thoughts?
What is anything? Why does this test not have Eastern philosophy or metaphysics of either Western or Eastern thought. I do not know.
I got Hobbes.
Morality is dependent on the person, and that which is moral to one is often that which benefits that person most. However, some moralities are better than others, and those which are the best are those which are the most considerate but pragmatic.
>>75823512
Good luck with that epic steaming pile of nonsensical dogshit of a book
>>75824158
>Don't, it'll make you autistic
Where do you think we are?
>>75824243
>Morality is dependent on the person, and that which is moral to one is often that which benefits that person most.
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL EDGE
Apparently I'm a Plato guy.
>>75822980
me too. next closest was 78%
>>75823429
He did but it got botched because Dethklok is cursed to never have anything go right
I just meant in general desu
>>75823932
me
>>75824085
I'll try to power through it, philosophy books tend to put me to sleep. I never thought reading about war would make me lose interest, but On War is a challenging read to me.
>>75824250
I've read (or tried to read) more nonsensical shit before. I got about 400 pages into Finnegans Wake.
>>75824223
>metaphysics of either Western or Eastern thought.
The test is on ethics.
>>75823011
This >>75822961
I got Jean-Paul Sartre.
Makes sense because Camus had a big impact on me--never actually read any Sartre though. 2nd was Ayn Rand and 3rd was Stoicism.
Christian coming through
>>75815854
What do my results say about me? Be honest.
So many blue pilled cucks ITT desu
Is this good?
>>75824356
I did not notice. I don't usually consider ethics.
Well, I guess I'm pretty red-pilled.
>>75824297
my plato negro
Kinda surprised how much of /pol/ is into Classical/Christian philosophy
>>75824395
>Christian coming through
>>75824404
you're probably a conceited cunt.
>>75824409
show yours
Not exactly /pol/-based
>>75815854
>tfw I got this answer even though I don't believe in god and I didn't answer any of the questions in a religious way
shit quiz tbhf
>>75824293
Well, it is. What I think is moral may not be moral to you. But, at times - and sometimes for a long time - my version of morality is more beneficial to society than yours. Often we impose certain strands of morality that will help us or make us feel good, because why would you want to lower yourself or make yourself feel bad? Unless of course that's what you thought was the most moral thing. Fuck, now it's just circles - those cunts.
>not wearing le fedora of reason and enlightened self-interest
>>75823973
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