Why do Libertarians love him so much?
Because he's socially liberal and is the only major candidate who will protect American privacy rights.
>>75793298
He is the ideal form of feeling based irrationality liberals base their lives around, morally(not logically) Bernie is superior to every other candidate.
>>75793489
>socialist
>"protect American privacy rights"
Hahahahaha, fucking leaf.
>>75793489
Who is Rand Paul
>>75793741
>Who is Rand Paul
Didn't he drop out of the race?
>>75793298
Because libertarians are children who stopped mentally developing after their sophomore year in high school
>>75793735
So the CIA is socialist?
>>75793894
The future is libertarians, the world hasn't developed enough to truly endure the ideology. You think colonizing offworld planets will be like Hitler or Stalin?
>>75793735
Good news is he wants to send you to University all expenses paid.
Maybe you'll learn what socialism actually is while you're there.
>>75793298
Disregard everyone else OP, the real answer is because so far he's had the best shot at opening peoples eyes to political ideas that are more third party/fringe-oriented, which only bodes well for libertarians in the future if the trend continues.
>>75793298
Because freedom equality.
Libertarians dont support him. A big part of libertarianism is getting the government to get the fuck out of your life and business. Bernie is the total opposite of that.
Stop trying to shill for Bernie OP. No one here is going to vote for him cause they think libertarians like him.
>>75794086
>my super special brand of socialism
Okay kiddo. Better donate your last $20 to Bernie.
>>75793298
Libertarians hate him. He is the antithesis of their ideals. He wants MORE MORE MORE government. Libertarians want LESS. IT is the hardcore, insane, useless liberals who love him.
>>75793834
Yeah and his dad is the based libertarian.
>>75794681
When was the last time Bernie mentioned government ownership of the means of production, anon? I'm not saying I agree with that either, but at least know what words mean before you use them. Government programs =/= socialism.
>bernie sanders
>not a kike communist
literally die, shill
>>75794068
Yes keep resisting brah hold out as long as you can. Lots liberty bros are turning to sanders and trump, don't fall 4 it haha
Teabaggers do not like statists like bernie. Nice try
>>75794965
Government programs are by definition Socialist you fucking retard. How old are you?
>>75793298
They're just jumping on the next "honest old man who if the country just listened to, everything would be OK." candidate.
Seriously, same Ron Paul fags on my fb are Bernie fags now.
Im a libertarian and I would rather shoot myself than live in a country ruled by Bernie fucking Sanders.
Probably because they have fewer biases and actually researched what his positions are instead of parroting "communist jew".
>>75795142
not entirely, but nice try. age doesn't matter when kids as young as 13 can grasp concepts most 35+year olds can't get
>>75795142
Which definition of socialism are you going by? Which literature are you drawing your frame of reference from? Do you protest having a standing army because of EVIL GUBMINT SOSHULIZM!!!???? Stop being retarded and educate yourself.
>>75795376
>not entirely
Explain. The entire point of socialism is government control of social aspects, which are money, housing, etc. how are programs by the government such as Section 8, welfare, subsidies, etc, NOT entirely socialist?
Let me guess, your arbitrary definition of socialism isn't the same as actual socialism.
>>75795142
remove yourself from the gene pool.
Half magyar, quarter east german.
I've had my run ins with socialism and if you're calling government programs socialism you're actually retarded.
>>75794086
>all expenses paid
>>75795464
>military is socialist
If you're going to act stupid, at least have an actual argument for your stupidity.
>>75795637
They are socialism, Ahmed.
>>75793298
>Why do Libertarians love him so much?
We don't.
>>75795654
You said government programs are by definition socialism. What do you call the military then? Or are you under some autistic impression that it's a private enterprise or something and not operated by our government using our tax dollars?
>>75795652
Can't use the word "free" on /pol/ or else the grammar police come out in force.
>>75795862
Since when is the military a "government program"? It's an essential part of any successful country. Are roads also socialist because you're taxed on them? Do you really think that taxes are socialist?
>>75795464
>Taking away 50% of what you generate to distribute it is not, in practice, control of the means of production
>Generating dependent masses is not how socialism establishes itself with the help of democracy
>>75795936
Probably because neither is true, my memeing friend.
>>75795692
I literally tell you my heritage in my post and your best comeback is "but they are" and calling me Ahmed.
You argue like a 5 year old
>>75793298
they don't
>>75795974
No I don't think that, but it's consistent with your line of thinking.
>>75796169
And you HAVE no argument. Your heritage doesn't prove that my statements are wrong. Not all socialism operates at the same level. Socialism is a concept of practices, not a single state of being.
Typical supporter
http://imgur.com/RtVPQWy
>>75796246
How?
>>75793298
because liberals are calling themselves libertarians these days
>>75793489
I think you're talking about John McAfee anon
He is going to give you much wealth from the colonies. He's going to need a lot of armies to make this happen.
>>75796376
might wanna read up on history friend
specifically around the french revolution
Bernie Sanders rally livestream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mq5hrUDoYo
>>75796287
What makes one government-provided service or benefit socialism over another to you if that's not the case? It sounds like you're the one with an arbitrary definition of socialism here.
>>75797027
Consider that socialism is government control of social aspects. This focus is production, money via wealth distribution, and subsidies.
So take the military. In what way is it socialist? It is a staple of defense, all countries have one in one way or another, as it is a benefit to the country. It is not, however, a social program.
Now take welfare. It is the distribution of wealth via taxes that is given to the poor. In general, this benefits no one but the recipient, while giving no return to the quality of the country.
Likewise, road taxes for example, are not socialist either. These taxes do not distribute wealth, but rather serve as a way for all people to benefit, while not strictly taking from those with to give to host without.
>>75795974
>Since when is the military a "government program"?
How is it not?
>run by the government
>paid for with tax dollars
>provides a service for the country
>>75797505
Because it's neither a social aspect not a "program". It is a job that is required for a country.
>>75797580
>the things i like are perfectly fine but everything else is wrong
fuck off, nigger.
>>75797580
You're still not providing a sound basis for why your definition of socialism is correct and everyone else's isn't, autist, you're just making this up as you go along.
>>75797580
>Because it's neither a social aspect
Why does this somehow preclude it from being a government program.
>not a program
Having a military falls under the definition of "defense program" easily.
>It is a job that is required for a country.
I don't see how this precludes it being a government program.
You're playing funny semantic games if you're going to argue that the military isn't a government program.
Because he wants to destroy the establishment and the banks.
That would be a huge improvement to libertarians even if he is for big government in other non essential areas.
>>75797963
>the things i like are perfectly fine but everything else is wrong
to be fair, thats 98% of how /pol/ operates
>>75798081
Not an argument.
>>75798170
The military isn't a government program, it is one of the few requirements of government.
because gary johnson is just a slightly more pro gun version of sanders
>>75795936
>grammar Nazis
Its not about grammar
Its about being completely false
>>75793298
>DUDE WEED LMAO
Honestly though, he's a classic liberal, which is, quite ironically i might add, unfathomably rare US politics. Classic liberals and Libertarians get along like bread and butter
All the real libertarians have woken up to race and are now fascists. What is left over are left-libertarians, people who don't oppose the state because it violates the non-aggression principle, but because it very sparsely impedes their degeneracy. This is why these "libertarians" are fine with his platform of rent seeking.
>>75794507
dont even try
/pol/ doesnt even understand the difference between classical liberalism and liberals (leftists) in the us
nor do they understand the difference between libertarianism and anarchism
according to this thread they dont even understand the difference between libers (leftists) in the us and libertarianism
not so many smart people on this board
>>75798498
>Not an argument.
Neither is literally anything you've said, considering you can't back up your claims with anything besides I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG LISTEN TO ME DUMMIES.
>>75793685
I'm not sure you know what morality is
>>75798746
Still not an argument, bernbot
>>75793741
>>75796518
>major candidates
>>75799164
>>75798746
https://www.google.com/#q=define+socialism
>>75798498
Weather a country needs the program or not is not the issue. The taxpayers pay for it. It is run by the government. It is a program within the government. You said any government program is socialist. Therefore
>military=socialist program
At least in your line of thinking. I, on the otherhand am not fucking retarted and understand not every government program is socialist
Because they are the party of cucks. Their VP pick passed the AWB in his state. And Johnson is similarly anti gun.
friendly reminder that without agreeing on definitions, there can be no argument that doesnt boil down to
>nuh uh
>ya huh
>nuh uh
>>75799721
Explain how it's a social program. You haven't stated how it is one.
Being run by the government and taxes to it doesn't make it a program. See roads.
>>75799164
>implying I'm a bernout
Now you're just resorting to insults because you can't back up anything you're saying with an accepted definition of the word socialism.
See: >>75799713 and promptly suck my dick.
>>75799941
please explain what social programs have to do with socialism. do you know the what socialism is, son?
>>75800123
You're not answering my question, buddy.
>>75799941
You have not mentioned social programs until now. The military is not a social program. Its a government program. There is a difference. You said all government programs are socialist. If the military is a government program, therefore you think its socialist. If you were to say all social programs are socialist, there would be no problem. I just think your initial statement is wrong.
>>75800633
I already defined the difference earlier in the thread. Are you not reading my posts?
>>75793685
>that cartoon
it's amazing how conservative the writers for GTA are, saw an article somewhere that said the US-based team is mostly made up of politically conservative people
>>75800890
Liberals would plead for human rights for digital characters.
>>75800890
then again, if you actually watch the full playlist for that "channel" in game, it's more of a parody of US politics in general, DESU and the whole game hits at US lifestyle choices as a whole
.....fuck i just love the game series so god damn much,
>>75801068
>Republican Space Marines
>>75800980
not a libertarian, conservative here but god forbid i laugh at parodies every so often
if you can't laugh at yourself every so often then you aren't human, and have no humor
>>75800751
I think this is just a misunderstanding of definition. You say government programs are things like welfare, and i call them social programs. I call the military a government program, and you call it "something any good country has". I dont think anyone here thinks the military is a socialistic program. If they do they are just b8.
>>75793298
All the good libertarians were absorbed by the GOP or returned to being non-voters.
No self respecting libertarian should give this kike a single vote.
>>75793298
Among myself and my Libertarian friends, not a single one of us likes him.
>>75800197
I'm not your buddy, guy.
