>pol thinks that the greeks were white
wew lad
>>75786916
Wow, a typing monkey
Romans, Greeks and Egyptians were all Nordic.
>>75786978
u call that a shitpost?
>>75786978
How long till it writes Shakespeare?
>>75786916
Tanned, like Germans.
>>75786999
>>75786916
how are you going to prove they arent white when you're posting portraiture of indoeuropean people? you are proving they are white, senpai.
>>75787243
redish skin
white
WE
>>75787351
wat
>>75787045
>Egyptians
>Nordic
>>75787445
>reddish skin
>white
>>75787564
he's essentially right. nordic meaning they were indoeuropean and nords being the purest of the indoeuropean races
>>75786916
>white people don't tan
Wew lad
>>75787351
What fucking red skin are you talking about?
Olive complexions are slightly greener.
Zika is making op retarded.
>>75787574
everything you're posting proves they were white. but if you're arguing about their skin color i don't know what to tell you. it's not about skin color. these portraits are of aryan people
>>75786916
There were many "greeks". The Mycenaeans were most likely descendents of vikings. Blonde and with blue eyes. These are the people Homer sings about. They were wiped by different people who built on their achievements.
>>75787635
literally we wuz. kill youself
>>75787635
nordics are more IE because they were raped by the proto-IE more than others, the proto-IE who got to Greece through the Balkanic route would've looked darker than Greeks.
See Haak et al
>>75787745
loke this one. reddish.
>>75786999
It's a white, you imbecile.
>>75787768
>Mycenaeans were most likely descendents of vikings. Blonde and with blue eyes.
Literally what. Mycenaeans had black hair. And how the fuck do vikings have to do with ancient greece?
Did the russians started experimenting you again?
>>75787864
oh no a Brazilian having an identity crisis. Everyone, tell him white people dont exist. We're as inbred and muddy as you desu dont worry and white people have never existed either. We cool?
>>75787980
No. You're wrong.
Those pictures have been askewed by centuries of grafitti.
The lack of melanin is what defines the white man, so therefore it is impossible that those pictures represent Greeks.
>>75787980
look this one, niggerish
>>75786916
This is exactly how I look though, perhaps a bit whiter
Modern greeks = ancient greeks confirmed
>>75786916
So, white men that tanned due to working in the field all day all of a sudden become not white?
>>75787920
don't worry science will prove that your race is just as noble and beautiful as mine, jose. one day
this triggers the poltard
>>75788335
exactly this is a common theme in ancient portraiture. see
>>75787980
men were depicted as tan while women were depicted as very pale. its a sign that the men worked and fought hard enough in the field that their women were able to lounge without a care. you can see this in ancient Egyptian art as well
>>75788387
I'm white but I just don't give a shit
>inb4 "UR NOT WHITE"
>>75786916
Congrats you fucktard, you've learned that whites in Southern European countries that experience the most sun exposure get tans.
Holy fucking shit.
>>75786916
>>75786999
>>75787574
>>75787980
Greeks, like Minoans and Egyptians, used darker tones for male skin on frescoes than for women.
This is because men spent most of their time outdoors and became tanned, whereas women stayed indoors and did not tan.
This is literally Art&Archaeology 101 stuff.
>>75788449
two indoeuropean people embracing. beautiful desu, monkey
>>75788568
you're a mutt
>>75787574
the guy in the middle has a really white face
>>75788242
They are Haitians
>>75787065
FROM A FUCKING LEAF
BRAZIL BTFO 2-0-1-6
POL UTTERLY BTFO
>>75788676
But according to /pol/, being tanned regardless from what means you are a shitskin and a rape baby.
>>75788676
thanks leaf
>>75788530
this thread is proof brazil is a third world country and should not host the olympics. op will probably be waiting at the exit doors with a machete
>>75788977
he's talking about normal tans, not "tanned germans" the german media loves
>>75787635
WE WAZ ROMANS AN SHIET! WE WAS CONQUERERS! WE WAS DA PYRAMIDS! WE WAS PHILOPHOPHERS!!!
>>75786916
mediterraneans
>>75788977
No it doesn't lmao, 99% of pol supports Greeks/Italian/Spaniards as whites, it's Jew shills that say otherwise in an attempt to split Europeans up. Don't fall for that bullshit.
>>75788948
>>75786916
everybody knows they were asian
>>75788977
"tanned german" is a meme
>>75788217
>this level of we wuz in that pic
my sides
>this thread
>>75789071
>99% of pol
[x] doubt
>>75789057
i mean i wasnt but white people were. are you denying the Coptics are Caucasoids and that the Romans were white? if not then what were they? negroids and black? are you the kangz? quit memeing and think before you shit post, guy. you just played yourself
Redish skin= rednecks. Not white.
>>75786916
They were Caucasian, dumbass
Holy shit, someone send some encyclopedias to Brazil asap
>>75789489
I think they were their own thing.
>>75789071
>99% of pol supports Greeks/Italian/Spaniards as whites
The absolute fucking madman
>>75789629
so we're talking about YOUR truths? cool bro Protip: the coptics still exist to this day and are obviously Caucasoid. Another protip: your suggesting the two peoples are of alien races that are not discussed in biological discourse. Don't be that guy, tinfoil kang.
pic related
>>75788066
sorry if I triggered you.
https://books.google.kz/books?id=krfFcKTy3rsC&pg=PT77&lpg=PT77
>>75788733
As are you. As an American it is beyond likely that you are at least genetically mixed
>>75790063
Caucasiod also includes Jews. Are Jews white? Do you have any evidence from a neutral, not right wing site?
>>75786916
we was homos an shit
>>75787635
>>75786916
Greek men liked to sunbathe and a tanned skin was considered aesthetic in a man. Just look to the women they depicted, women didn't sun bathe at all as fair white skin was considered the best in females.
like this pic for example
>>75788449
>>75790643
>Both Greek and roman****
>/pol/ defending my people
Th-Thank you
>>75787635
AYOO
HOL UP
*fucks sister*
SO U BE SAYING
*destroys village*
WE WUZ
*destroy roman empire and throw europe into the dark ages*
EVERYTHING AND SHEEIT?
>>75790875
Who are your people?
>>75790293
>as an American
so you admit to being a mutt and then excuse it by telling me i am too? you just played yourself, mutt.
>>75790317
see pic
>>75790999
Nice trips
>>75790979
we weren't asians black africans or any of the abos/native americans. but yeah romans were Caucasoids and so are Egyptians. this is fact. if not, then YOU tell me who YOU "believe" they are?
>>75791137
I asked you for a source to your claims you retard
>>75790979
You are white too, Indio.
>>75791268
I've met a Greek before. She was white.So I don't believe all Greeks are non white.
>>75791370
"from a not 'right wing site'". you're basically asking me to give you a link from a "left wing" site at that point. what do you need proof of btw? everything I've said in this thread is taught in school still, I would assume
>>75786916
>mfw pol is retarded and delusional
>>75787065
Kek. Real question is how long until Shakespeare is not white.
>>75791576
I'm asking for a site with no bias you fucking baby
>inb4 no u
>cherrypickings
Brazilian idiot
>>75791578
>curly hair
POL BTFO AGAIN
>>75786916
i wish i was born in a different country
>>75790268
rare
>>75786916
Read the Iliad and the Odyssey and just BTFO yourself I don't feel like doing it.
>>75786916
Reminder that if you're not an albino you're basically a nigger.
>>75791578
reminder that german 'aryan' propaganda featured bronzed male figures just like this, 'white' people where never actually white by colour before spending most of your life indoors became a common practice.
>>75791825
not even that uncommon
>>75791313
Egypt was a multcultural civilization lad, it was rulled by blacks many times over
>>75791714
I got an idea, if you're interested, do you're own research. Also, if Egyptians aren't Caucasoid and Romans weren't an indoeuropean race then what are they? You tell me
AYO HOL UP HOL UP
*SMACKS LIPS*
YOU BE SAYIN
*ENGAGES IN SUBVERSION TACTICS ALMOST ON PAR WUTH THOSE OF THE JEWS*
WE SUM FINNA
*COMPLAINS ABOUT DYING ABOUT BECAUSE ONE WOMAN DECIDED TO DATE A BLACK MAN*
SUM KINNA
*TAKES THE CREDIT FOR THE WORK OF ANOTHER PEOPLE*
MEDITERRANEANS AND SHIEEEYTTTT?
>>75791902
what if you're an albino nigger?
>>75791932
the nazi "aryan" propaganda was just that: propaganda. Germans are barbaric subhumans with incest and scat fetishes. Aryans were in the Persian empire (modern day Iran). Aryans didn't all have the same fucking color of eyes and hair, it's about real genetics that matters: Skull features and brain.
>>75791313
caucasoid != white though
all native west eurasians who don't have nigger admixture(like most north africans for instance) are caucasoids
>>75791992
well no it was not a multicultural society until it was conquered by the nubians during the 25th dynasty. you'll also notice a change in sculpture at this point as the features change from that of a "white" person to more negroid features. this is also around the time hieroglyphs started to lose meaning and were essentially used at decor. coincidence im sure ;)
WE
>>75792166
i know it doesn't necessarily mean they were white, as white is really a social construct(like black but w/e), but to say the ancient Egyptians and Romans weren't Caucasoid is just dishonest
>>75792605
ARE
>>75786916
those people are Etruscan
now you know why kikes want to nuke Iran
>>75792686
NOT
>>75792119
>I'll will make claims without supporting them
>Well I'm right but I won't prove it
So your words have no meaning.
>>75792762
MEDITERRANEANS
>>75792710
Etruscans were also white. Man, you people are so braindead. Jewgle etruscan sculpture and come upon blonde haired females and males. Black and white sculpture is not the colour they once have been painted as. Idiots.
Like it really matters anyway.
It's not like anyone in this world today was part of there feats
What matters is what you do not your ancestors.
No one should take credit for other people's accomplishments.
If you do you are probably mad because you have accomplished nothing.
>>75792641
>Race is a social construct
Don't reply to bait.
>>75789071
But pol also says that levantines and turks are not white when southern europeans cluster just as much to them as they do to northern euros.
>>75786916
They are Mediterraneans, which is pretty much white.
>>75792833
they mean whatever you want them to. how many claims are made on this board? how many fucking citations have you seen? look at the Europeans replying to me. they are educated on this subject. you should feel really bad not being able to converse on such a basic topic without having your hand held the entire time.
now that i think about it, why is what im saying so triggering to you? are you really a mixed breed? are you having an identity crisis?
>>75792156
Oh wow, kikes are so stronk here. Who has the genitals mutilated? Aryans or kikes? Who has curly nigger hair? Aryans or kikes? Who suffers diseases aryans don't even know? Well played kike, well kiked.
>>75786978
wew
>>75793079
i said white. no, the white race doesnt exist. just like the black race doesnt etc. but the scientific identifiers we do have are just as dividing, if not more so. Im not denying white identity though
>>75793158
so much autism in one post.
>>75793128
I'm asking you "race is a social construct" faggot. I'm asking for a source to your ridiculous claim and you won't provide an answer.
>>75793301
>>75793128
If the white race doesn't exist, why does it matter if the Romans were white?
>>75787045
>Egyptians
WE WUZ KANGS
You wish you jizzskinned faggot. Modern Egyptians have the same genetic makeup as the ancient Egyptians. Youre literally no better than those niggers that try to claim the same shit.
>>75793536
the "white" race doesn't exist in the sense that it doesn't have a proper scientific definition behind it
literally open threads about what is supposed to be "white" and you'll get a bunch of different answers depending on the mood of the board and the time of the day
>>75792417
and? there you just repeated what i said.
>>75787045
low iq retard
>>75793389
>>75793536
just stop using the term "white race". it's embarrassing. you can say "white interest" "white identity" but the white race? you are opening yourself up to anti-white drivel when you do that. you can nip it in the bud from the start by changing your terminology "indoeuropean race" etc.
>>75786916
>>75791992
I know its hard for monkeys to learn English, but what you meant to say was "Egypt was ruled by blacks once".
We wuz Zeus and shit nigga
>>75796398
Immunity cat protects me faggot.
>>75796227
'Indo-European' is wrong though. First of all, Indo-Europeans were a small % of the population in any region their went to, and second of all, Indo-Europeans were caucasian/mongoloid mixes.
'White', 'Black', etc are fine, but both sides of the isle take it ridiculously too far.
North Africans, Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Iranians, and even Arabs are Caucasian. The difference is that all those groups sans Arabs have been mixing with Europeans for literally ever, and all those 'races' have achieved amazing things before and along side Europeans.
The Balkan/Middle-East lag behind Europe not because of genetics but because of centuries of stagnation and bullshit imposed by Islam and the joint efforts of European and Arabic political elites.
Can you break down 'Caucasian', absolutely. Is there, according to that break down, a demographic that could be identified as a 'white race', absolutely.
But it is near on impossible to determine this genetically since all of Europe is a genetic stew, with genetics from various migrations persisting to the modern day.
>>75791992
One dynasty that lasted about 120 years. Before that Egyptians were ruled by native Egyptian kings (or queens) for over 2500 years. After the Nubians, it went back to Egyptians, and then Greeks, and then Romans, with some Persian satraps for 200 years before the Greeks.
>>75786916
I hate the people in my country
>>75788449
>posts on /pol/
>thinks he isn't /pol/
You're just the lowest tier of the /pol/ hierarchy you sad fuck.
WE WUZ NORDIC 'N SHIT
>>75791578
>Picture of Caracalla
>Whose mother was Syrian
>And father was Punic
>And famously wear a blonde wig and Gaulish clothes
A true racial Roman, kek.
>>75789071
>99% of pol supports Greeks/Italian/Spaniards as whites
No,they don't support greeks as whites and they shouldn't.
Imagine if tomorrow everyone in europe and usa looked like a nordicist's wet dream,blond hair blue eyes etc.Pol would be creaming in their pants.
Now imagine if tomorrow everyone in those two continents looked like a southern euro like in OP's pic,brownish skin,black hair borwn eyes.Pol would be on suicide watch.
Southern europeans are not white(at least a large portion of them is not) and the sooner ppl realise/admit it the better.
>>75800452
we're talking about white skin, not aryan/nordic looks you redpilled dumbfuck
>>75800746
>we're talking about white skin
I covered that part too.Many greeks have brownish skin,or olive skin if you that's what you want to call it.
>>75787394
WUZ
>>75801097
many, not the majority.
>>75801627
So what are we to do about those many Greeks that look like this >>75786916 ?
Hide them,pretend they are white or just claim that they are not real greeks?
>>75801873
you generalize the fact that some Greek people are not white.
>>75801873
Nationalism =/= racialism.
Israel has Germanics and Arabics under one flag.
In an ideal world, we could revive the Greek phenotype. For now, just Nationalism with subtle eugenics.
>>75802253
What is the Greek phenotype?
Also go into more detail about thos subtle eugenics.Which phenotype do we get rid of from Greece?
>>75801873
This one you mean
>>75802605
The Greek phenotype is depicted in the Ancient Greek sculptures.
I find it very funny that it's a point of controversy, since there's literally tons of evidence.
The eugenics could be extensive genetic studies, along with historical evidence, from all regions within Greece's current territory, but also in historically Greek places.
The end goal would be to gather people from those regions and have them reproduce or something.
It's very simplistic, but it's the best I can think of.
Or genetic engineering.
>>75803106
>>75801873
You know these two dark skinned men
>>75801873
>>75801097
>>75800452
The Greeks in those frescoes are darker skinned because that was how frescoes were painted at the time.
Egyptian, Minoan, and Greek frescoes all show light skinned women and dark skinned men because the men tanned in the sun and women spent the majority of their life in doors and thus didn't tan.
>>75802253
>>75802605
You are both full retards, I guess.
Greek 'phenotype' does not exist. The original Greek-speaking Indo-Europeans were probably R1b. The majority of Greece is E3b and J2 and I2, representing pre-Greek European populations dating back to like 40,000 - 7,000 BC.
Greeks are now and have always been 'white'. They just happen to have slightly darker skin, in some cases.
Seriously how stupid and inbred are retards who obsessive over 100% pure 'Aryan' whiteness?
Iranians & Indians are the true Aryans, retards.
>>75787351
i see white people with white skin.
are u a retard?
>>75803389
I'm not a Nordicist. I don't want Greeks to become Germans. I just want them to be Greek, it's that okay with you.
>>75801873
In australia we have these things called beaches, theyre quite popular. As a result you see a lot of people the colour of OP pic especially in areas where there are beaches and especially during the summertime. And guess what, theyre white and theyre not even greek, in fact they have entirely snownigger genetics.
In fact the blond swedish tourists come off the plane with a complexion like that.
So who exactly is white according to you? The minority of scottish and irish people like me with alabaster white albino skin which will never tan matter how much sun its exposed to?
>>75803116
Greeks continue to look like their sculptures for the most part.
Why don't you provide genetic evidence for your claims? I'll tell you why: you're talking out of your ass. Greece's largest changes in the last 10,000 years were the introduction of J2 (agriculture + Anatolians) and R1b (Greeks entering Greece).
Modern Greeks are 80-90% genetically identical to ancient Greeks.
>>75803535
They are Greek.
Why don't you post something more specific than 'I want to look like a statue'.
What, genetically speaking, would you like to exterminate, and why?
>>75803686
I believe he knows that one cannot match race with genetics in 2016, he's being hypothetical on what he could have done maybe to exclude some characteristics from the modern Greek dna to make it look more like the ancient one ....under completely different circumstances that is.
>>75803686
Οι λεγόμενοι "white nationalists" δεν γουστάρουν kαθόλου μελαχρινούς,οι οποίοι είναι μεγάλο μέρος του ελληνιkού λαού.Οπότε ή kάνουμε πως δεν υπάρχουν μέχρι να ολοkληρωθεί το πρόγραμμα ευγονιkής του φίλου μας που ανέφερε πιο πάνω ή απλά παραδεχόμαστε πως πολλοί έλληνες δεν είναι λευkοί kαι αν αυτό δεν αρέσει στους νορδιkιστές χεστήkαμε kαι η βάρkα γέρνει.
Εγώ δεν θέλω να γερμανοποιηθούν φυλετιkά οι έλληνες απλά για να γουστάρουν οι βοριοευρωπαίοι kαι τα αμεριkάναkια.
>>75804127
But what evidence does he have that modern Greeks and ancient Greeks do not look the same?
Greece is a mess of genetic origins, but they are mostly ancient arrivals. Stone-age, even.
Statues were made for what, 1 in 10,000 people? Less than 1% of statues survive to the modern era. And the majority of surviving statues are of GODS, which were hyper idealized. So yea maybe Euphamines looked like a fat hairy ball of shit and nobody made a statue of him or turned him into the spitting image of Apollo, but Georgios who looks the exact same has his furry chest splattered all over the Internet and suddenly 'GREEKS ARENT WHITE'.
We can't say what every ancient Greek looked like, we can only compare their genes and say that the modern and ancient populations are near perfect matches.
>>75804752
In English. I am not going to learn moonspeak and talk about anime with you on a politics board.
>>75804752
Totally NOT what I said. This really hurts me deeply.
It doesn't have to do white or dark skin.
Nordicism is even worse than saying the original Greeks were black.
I don't want Eugenics to MANUFACTURE something, but to enhance what's already there.
Interesting point on natural Greek variety of skin tones. If one breeds with a black woman and his descendants mate with white girls for 3-4 generations the skin will be almost if not, back to normal. Since there have been certainly no black/middle eastern admixture the last 150 years it seems that darker skinned Greeks of today are typical pigmentation variations in the Greek genome whether recessive or dominant. Considering how early Greeks diverged from the moving indo european masses compared to "later" europeans and how little inbreeding there is the actual genetic diversity could lead to more than one skin phenotype for a group
>>75804998
To me white always seemed to be a broad term for Caucasoid men not colours per se.
Both have dark hair. Do the look the same?
Dark hair - Greek.
I can post millions of examples.
>>75787635
Golly gee my friend. Are you telling me that we were monarchs an feces?
>>75804752
Ότι οι βορειοευρωπαίοι kαι οι αμεριkάνοι χέζοντε για το αν οι έλληνες είναι μαυρούληδες.
>>75804855
agreed.
>>75805049
>Since there have been certainly no black/middle eastern admixture the last 150 years.
I might misunderstand your words but the Greeks that migrated from Pontus for example, surely had some middle eastern characteristics.
>>75805049
>>75805196
And they say British education has failed...
well I'm glad you made it out before it did.
>>75805322
>>75805223
What is the point?
Can whites not have dark hair now?
Did dark hair not exist in ancient Greece, is that your claim?
>>75805440
Read my caption. "Both have dark hair - Do they both look the same?" My point was the opposite.
Tanned skin - Greek
When I say Greek I mean they are acceptable as Greeks. Skin/hair colour are secondary.
Notice the difference - if it was in Germany, one would be an immigrant.
White - Germanoid - Not Greek
>>75805838
Forgot pic
>>75805386
you do not misunderstand me. Although Pontic Greeks and Asia Minor Greeks might have had some turkic/surrounding areas admixture but refer to my point from before of reverting to normal characteristics for the population. They might have some but not enough to change the pool, in my opinion. That would require an entirely distinct population to migrate in the numbers they did (around 1-1.5 million IIRC) in which case we would see greater disparities. There is also the case where there was no obvious difference to the Greek refugees compared to the general public great enough to have anyone mention it somewhere that could last through history. My Greek friend invited me to his house 2 summers ago. In England where he lives and works he is almost as white as me and he became much darker that i would expect, from the sun.
>>75805527
>>75805655
>>75805775
>>75805855
What the fuck are you trying to prove?
>>75788977
I also get some bleached hair in the summer if I stay out, what cuckposters would write about me?
>>75805838
The only place where the white term is so strictly termed is /pol/. This is also the entire basis of this debate which in fact should have ended in a agree-to-disagree on what means white
>>75791992
so.....
WE
>>75805386
>Ότι οι βορειοευρωπαίοι kαι οι αμεριkάνοι χέζοντε για το αν οι έλληνες είναι μαυρούληδες.
Ο μέσος βορειοευρωπαίος kαι αμεριkάνος όχι,οι "white nationalists" ναι.Έχω δει πολλούς εδώ kαι στο 8chαn να λένε ότι χρειαζόμαστε να μας kαθαρίσουν το dna.
>>75805223
>>75805322
>>75805527
>>75805655
>>75805775
From a thread on /his/
>>Research by Nina Jablonski suggests that an estimated time of about 10,000 to 20,000 years is enough for human populations to achieve optimal skin pigmentation in a particular geographic area but that development of ideal skin coloration may happen faster if the evolutionary pressure is stronger, even in as little as 100 generations.[5] The length of time is also affected by cultural practices such as food intake, clothing, body coverings, and shelter usage which can alter the ways in which the environment affects populations.[7]
And Greece has been inhabited for tens of thousands of years and received most of it's population influx before 3000BC from the Near East.
So Greeks have skin tone adapted to their geography. And are Caucasian.
>>75786916
nobody thinks Greeks were white. they were Mediterranean
The fuck does 'kαθαρίσουν' mean?
>>75806608
Τhat's what I would consider a white Greek phenotype. Using "white" is redundant, but still.
>>75806503
No man, it's not just the skin colour. They're different populations. Admixtures.
>>75806736
I am sorry about this >>75804752 post i thought you were greek
kαθαρίσουν means clean
>>75806736
google translate says "clean", i assume purge or exterminate in this thread genetic setting, lol
Pls Tsipras I support you don't jail me for all this
>>75806096
So you're saying that the ones that migrated weren't enough to cause a difference in the "average" let's say Greek dna at that time. I wouldn't disagree, I mean I haven't even spent much time studying genetics etc. but from what I can see with my eyes the Greeks with pontic roots usually have some different characteristics. The "visual stereotypes" as we may call them?
>>75806960
θα βγεις με βραχιολάkι μην μασάς. :^)
>>75787635
>nordics
>purest indoeuropeans
I wish your post was trolling but I'm inclined to think you believe this IRL.
>>75806882
So what are you trying to exterminate from the DNA?
Which 'race' of Greeks, and why? What is your historical basis for this desire?
And I am Greek, but my Greek is limited to everyday family dialogues. I'd love to improve my reading but don't see the purpose of using anything but English in a public discussion on an internationally visited image board - particularly when the poster you're responding to doesn't have your flag.
>>75807028
They most probably will have some population defining traits but one would assume that the numbers and degree of homogeneity on their basic DNA (greek) would mean that these specific, small traits are by no means grounds for any change to the Greek gene pool.
All this is the base of the point that Greeks might and probably have more than one skin phenotype. There is almost no genetic bottle necking if you see maps which means more diversity
>>75805527
that picture is cherrypicked as fuck. Nobody denies the armenoid influence in a small (quite small) percentage of "greeks" but to present them as the rule is ridiculous.
>>75807727
I literally just googled 'greek'.
>>75807276
I don't want to exterminate anything.I'm saying that i've seen many ppl here and on 8/pol/ say that Greeks need to have their Dna "cleaned" in order to look more like northern euros(whiter).
So i say we have to admit that a large portion greeks are not white and if nordicists and white nationalists in general don't like that they can suck those greek brown dicks.We don't need to be part of "team white"
>>75805527
>>75805655
>>75806568
>>75806608
All of these people are white
>>75807986
The biggest problem isn't that we aren't white enough, but that we aren't homogeneous enough. I have stage 3 autism so don't be pissed.
>>75786978
What's really interesting is this: why is it always Latinos (excluding kebabs and shitbanians) that are butthurt about Greeks? I don't recall raping them and in soccer (Germoney's 7 - best day of their lives) or invading them since they are a fucking ocean and an archipelago away.
Do you remember the other butthurt Mexican who would every day couldn't stop being a butthurt sperg?
>>75807986
Greeks, even the ones you and Nordicists claim aren't white, are white. And Nordicists have too narrow a definition of what white is.
At the end of the day, everybody is better than Africans and Abos, and that's what matters most.
The biggest difference between European Caucasians and Middle-Eastern Caucasians is not skin colour or genetics, it is culture and religion.
Racism has it's place but a large portion of racism is actually targeted at race-independent culture and as a result is misdirected at people who are objectively 'innocent'. If that makes sense.
It is amazing how /pol/ can be so racist and autistic that it forces one to reevaluate their racism. But niggers still aren't human and were never kings.
Rate this guy from magna grecia.
https://vimeo.com/groups/192344/videos/131332038
>>75808614
>It is amazing how /pol/ can be so racist and autistic that it forces one to reevaluate their racism
True. I personally am not overly racist or nationalistic, I just look at a lot of people and make observations. I still prefer living here than Denmark where everyone would have a stupid butterface.
what people need to understand is that evidence points to a recent selection of white skin to current frequencies rather than an arrival due mostly to admixture
original Europeans were brown, and even in Scandinavia with all the selective pressure present due to the climate the mutations who are linked to white skin were at pretty low frequencies compared even to modern south Europeans
some of them up north already had the full package of white skin + blonde hair + blue eyes, but it wasn't common except for blue eyes
then farmers arrive, they do have the mutations for white skin but again, not close to current frequencies
then, finally, invaders from the ukranian steppe also arrive but yet again the frequencies of the white skin mutations are still lower than even modern south Europeans
eventually it's due to selection that those mutations reach current levels
it's perfectly understandable that southern Euros received less selective pressure for those than n. Euros, diet also played a role but the north also had a more favorable climate for it
>>75808678
He's fine. I actually like this type of look.
There's a lot of Greeks in Italy. I want to visit and make observations.
>this thread still going
lel
>>75808987
You were just trolling
>>75808964
We've croatian minority in southern italy, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats
Albanians too.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piana_degli_Albanesi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arb%C3%ABresh%C3%AB_people
Feel /balk/.
>>75808614
What most people don't get, based leaf: the term white is a vague term used in every continent excluding europe to describe people of European heritage. What people from your side of the pond do not get is this: although European people are very much related, they are distant enough to the point that one can immediately recognize another's ethnicity. Especially people who work in tourism related businesses, they can tell apart a Norwegian and a Swede just by looking at them.
Essentially, Nordics and Saxons are something like brothers, Mediterraneans and Slavics are something like cousins
>>75791578
Except that guy's parents were Syrian and Punic?
>>75809141
of course
>>75809201
White is more a colonial term where they had to contend with native reds and imported blacks.
>>75809425
Historically speaking yes, but in present day it's used just to describe anyone who isn't a nig, an ackbar, a gook or a spic
>>75809190
Michelle Lombardo, Irish/Italian
>>75809593
So like goy is used to describe non jews?
CHECK THE NOSE
>>75809717
Pretty much
>>75809201
I see. In Canada I assume most 3rd and later generation people of European heritage are mixed.
Greeks & Italians, English & French, English & German, Greeks & Armenians, Italians & French, etc. So yeah I have never assumed someones national heritage by their looks, really.
Slavs are mostly 1st and 2nd generation and I interact with a lot (or used to) who would be very keen on asking others if they were Russian/Ukrainian/Polish/whatever. But I noticed they pretty much asked anybody who was pale and had light hair, like myself.
Its like that stupid saying 'White people can't tell asians/blacks apart but they can tell each other apart'. I can probably spot a Spaniard or a Greek from a Swede, sure, but don't ask me to guess 20 people in a lineup. Didn't realize that in Europe they could.
In my opinion the ancient greek looked something like this
>>75810107
Correct.
>>75810107
>>75810177
Could have easily have looked like any one in the top part of this post
>>75808845
And don't forget, Alexander was blonde.
>>75810309
He was trolling, ofc he could have looked like one on the top.
The dark bodies are just for art.
There are other paintings with different style.
Notice how the artists gave them brown breads, not black, like e.g. Iranians.
>>75809943
We can, especially those who travel a lot or just having tourism related jobs.
For example, Norwegians have bigger and more rounded heads than Swedes and more toned cheekbones, they also tend to be larger and more pale than Swedes
Swedish women don't look that good. Swedish men are handsome. Italian women the best. Or Ukrainian if you wanna go east.
Literally /pol/ is too busy with Trump and we can have a semi-decent genetics thread
They were fucking caucasians, just like any mediterranean race. So were the fucking romans.
Americans, when it comes to race, are mostly germanic and niggers, in other words, the barbarians of that time who lived in wooden shacks, fucked goats and shitted on the street.
Only with hitler did the nordic scum (the dark age somali pirates from the seas of england and hunnish raped barbarians from central europe) eventually stole a cool looking buddhist symbol and created a whole mythology so that the nordic scum could think of themselves as some sort of "special snowflakes".
>>75810750
Trump is a reddit thing. The trump threads are made by /r/The_Donald,which has over 130k subscribers. there is only 2k people on /pol/ at any given time, they're the ones raiding our board with trump spam.
>>75810876
Nordicism predate hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Grant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
>>75811111
>11111
>>75810876
A lot of the Americans on /pol/ have German or Polish ancestry so they obsess over "muh heritage". I'm personally indifferent to both Germans and Slavs. I prefer the more Celtic-based populations of Europe.
>>75810565
>dat eye asymmetry
How much alcohol did her mother take while pregnant
>>75811111
It might, but only he did have any major influence on the years to come.
>Nice quints
>>75811267
You just posted because I said Swedish men are handsome.
>>75810177
>>75810309
Greeks were tanned caucasoids with dark hair.
You dont expect their skin to be pale even after stayin long hours under the sun everyday right?
This girl is a Greek actress on AMC and she looks white as fuck
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3304678/?ref_=tt_cl_t8
I read on 8ch that genetic markers were found as far as the Middle East which would indicate whites were pushed further and further north over the centuries. This is also supported by the Moors in Spain. Spain probably used to be very white country before Islamic occupation.
Just look at what is happening in modern times, France, Belgium, Austria. Whites again are being pushed further and further North until Iceland is going to be the only white country left.
>>75803666
WAZ
>>75812524
Yea sure, the natives of Europe did not have white skin.
White skinned middle eastern people moved to Europe when they came with agriculture 7000 years ago.
>>75809190
I like the way South Slavs look. We have a Croatian community here in Ohio and they all stick really close together.
I dunno about Albanians
>>75812227
The effect of sun-tanning on their skin and their art has been well established in the thread already.
Alexander the Great had blonde hair, and many Greeks even today have light coloured hair (dirty blonde/light brown).
>inb4 Alexander wasn't Greek
>>75813026
>Alexander the Great had blonde hair
I'm not sure the sources on this are too credible tbqh. And there are also other contradicting things like that Roman fresco or something supposed to be a copy of a Greek fresco, depicting him as dark haired.
What seems to be the case is that he was fair in skin.
>>75812748
No, what I'm saying is whites occupied a greater land mass than they do now. What I'm saying is we occupied down into North Africa and very much further East.
What I'm saying is through slow and steady conquest and probably idiotic white altruism similar to what we're seeing today, those territories have become miscegenated and browned up.
Reading comprehension is useful.
>>75813026
Can confirm
I've always had dark black hair all my life, yet somehow miraculously I get locks of light brown/dirty blonde hair
Without even being exposed to the sun for multiple hours
>>75813026
thats right. thats why the guy i posted in the pic looked like them.
>>75813200
Why would they lie about the colour of his hair? What political benefit did that make to anybody?
You lie when you can get away with it when you're writing. Not about the most famous man since Achilles who was seen by tens or even hundreds of thousands of people.
And Roman copies of every Greek are unreliable. They liked to alter noses and hair to look more 'Roman'. Re: Roman statues of Cleopatra give her a nose the size of Jupiter.
>>75786916
Greeks are white. Just look at the movie 300.
>>75786916
>>75786999
For a good start both paintings are roman, and even if they were greek, could you take paintings thousands of years old as any proof?
As far as we know they may have not even had access to the right pigment.
You're not stupid because you're wrong, you're stupid by shitposting without putting any thought into what you're saying.
>>75813790
>Why would they lie about the colour of his hair? What political benefit did that make to anybody?
not lie but simply not mention it, the greek sources about him say he was fair skinned and apparently with a blue eye and a brown eye, they don't say anything about the hair
afaik the source that describes him as "yellow haired" is Roman and from the 2nd century, way after his death
you got to consider what kind of figure he was and the timeline between his life and his descriptions, not to mention the symbolism blondism had for the ancients(think of helios for instance)
>>75814157
True
The most significant characteristic about him was that he was built, tall and had heterochromia, also that he was a bit crosseyed when he was a child, with one eye always staring at the sky, they thought of that as cool and stuck with that reasoning.
It also supported the myth at the time, that he was the son of Zeus.
>>75786916
i always thought they were considered honourary white coz they invented western civilization
>>75813567
I'm saying that white skin is newer than you think and it exists from South India to Europe. It is not found in east Asians or Negroids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLC24A5
>>75786916
They were white you antiquated piece of farm equipment.
>>75812765
Me too. South Slavs are better than other Slavs.
>>75814481
http://news.psu.edu/story/299166/2014/01/02/research/studies-skin-color-gene-across-global-populations-reveal-shared
>A111T is also found in populations in the Middle East and Indian subcontinent, but not in high numbers in Africans. Researchers found that all individuals from the Middle East, North Africa, East Africa and South India who carry the A111T mutation share a common “fingerprint” -- traces of the ancestral genetic code -- in the corresponding chromosomal region, indicating that all existing instances of this mutation originate from the same person.
>>75794833
You are low IQ retard
>>75787045
THIS!
>>75814799
That doesn't disprove my theory
If anything it supports it, that we were more widespread before and that is why civilizations existed in those areas in the past and do not exist in present nor recent times because the overall composition of the population became diluted by inferior races.
>>75787761
THIS! It's about being Aryan not skin colour. There was one viking that was swarthy so was Goebelles all Nords tho.
>>75787980
That was a painting made in Italy during Michael Angelo time.
>>75787920
you are funny
>>75788147
sure buddy
>this thread
Who the fuck does one argue with on a daily basis? Whatever, /pol/ would consider me to be a sandnigger or kike no doubt so Greeks might as well be shitskins.
>>75815096
No it doesn't prove your theory because their descendants still exist. They still hold the gene coding for the protein.
How were they diluted? How did you measure it?
