>postal votes rigged
>remain wins
>Cameron announces his victory
>monarch sets aside 60 years of political neutrality, announcing that her oath is to protect the sovereignty of the country and its people
>Cameron locked in The Tower for treason, awaiting trial with Blair
>Large swathes of the BBC machine-gunned live on air for sedition
>EU BTFO
>>75784629
0% chance, your queen is responsible for the decline of England.
New monarchy when?
>>75784629
Certainly hoping for craziness.
2016 demands it.
>>75784629
fund it
>>75784629
>Cameron locked in The Tower for treason, awaiting trial with Blair
you are watching too much GoT
>>75784629
It is 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
vote leave
What are the current BREXIT polls at?
>Large swathes of the BBC machine-gunned live on air for sedition
>vote rigged and people upset
politicians say don't be racist blah blah
>vote is still rigged and people still mad
celebrities pitch in and say don't be racist blahblah
>vote is still rigged and only the hardest brexiters are still mad so queen says dont be racist blah blah
and checkmate, the brits tuck their dicks between their legs and go home for tea
You can't count on brits to rebel against the establishment and you certainly can't depend on the queen
>>75784629
Your cuntry shall be know as the Isle of Cucks
INCOMING
L A T E S T - B R E X I T - P O L L - T R A C K E R
>>75785239
>>75784877
The tower of London was built in 1078
Game of Thrones started in 2011
Silly kraut
>>75785239
Vote Leavers on suicide watch
>>75785475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shh0FCEsJg4
>>75785571
>>75785475
What
>>75785475
Thanks.
>>75785571
Provide proof-
>Flag
Noice.
>>75785742
>>75785475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk
Britain will be reborn
>>75785571
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/31/uk-voters-leaning-towards-brexit-guardian-poll-reveals
>Phone and online survey shows a 52-48 split in favour of leaving the EU as referendum campaign gathers steam
>>75785930
Went on holiday when the polls showed a 12 point lead for Remain, come back and see this.
Fucking brilliant
>>75784629
Postal votes will indeed be rigged. Also they have sent out voting cards to tens of thousands of EU immigrants who should not be allowed to vote according to the rules... but its too hard to cancel their cards now.
>>75784629
Queen save the god
>>75785851
Can you imagine if he were alive today, what on earth would he say?
The worst thing about the whole Brexit debate is that the establishment has used to to drain EVEN MORE spirit out of the British people, to errode EVEN FURTHER any semblance of national identity and spirit.
They might as-well come out and say we are finished, we are done, we are and old and feeble woman waiting to die in a rest-home, and the best place for us is safely under lock-and-key inside the EU home for retired nations. Disgusting.
>>75786264
He would demand the ethnic british people march together and claim back what was taken from them by the financial elite.
Everything he predicted has happened. Even while being recognised as the greatest and most intelligent orator our parliament has ever seen, they will never admit he was right
The goal of the EU is to weaken strong European Cultures and replace them with Globalism and Capitalist Hegemony, what need there for Warfare when the Will of Millions of people can be streamlined under a "European Union", but how does this differ from what Adolf Hitler wanted for his "German State"
Video related, reminded me of this
EU = Ethnic 'Cultural' Cleansing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j7FXdmH2Mw
I hope the best for you, UK. Your death wouldn't be of the country but a sign for the rest of the world that it will follow. Britain is easily one of the best thermometers for the future.
You brexiteers are a bunch of pot smoking lying scum.
You say the EU is undeomocratic
Lie
You say it's about cultural extermination
Lie
You are so stupid, that without any plan for what a post brexit Britain looks like, you are willing to take the risk and fuck your economy royally.
The simple truth is that you are the stupids, the lie believers.
Bring on your Brext arguments and I will debunk them. I dare you.
>>75787754
>You say the EU is undeomocratic
>Lie
But it specifically is. They vote among themselves and have power over constituent members.
Y>ou are so stupid, that without any plan for what a post brexit Britain looks like
Similar to now, but without the parasite draining them, kaffir-boetie?
>>75787754
Like a pre EU Britain, strong cultural values, strong morals, traditional Culture.
Do these words even mean anything for someone living in South Africa? I doubt it, and they never will, because as your post suggested economics is all that matters to you, so you would be willing to sell your country to the highest bidder like you did to us before?
>>75787754
Nice flag.
How's your AIDS?
>>75787918
So the uk is a parliamentary democracy. What that means burger buddy, is that you vote for a representative, and that that representative goes to parliament with other elected representatives and makes the decisions based around a direction set by the winning party - i.e. we think the UK should do x, y and z in the coming parliament. For instance buy more weapons or extend the reach of the NHS. The MP's then decide and ratify the finer details of how that program will be carried out. The EU works in exactly the same way. The elected heads of state from each EU member form a council with revolving leadership. They set the direction and elected EU parliamentarians then go about the business of working out and voting on the finer details of how that program is carried out. SO EXACTLY SAME AS A PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY.
Not similar to now. AT the moment British companies can source the best employees from all over europe. They can also trade with those economies on an equal footing, without having to pay duties etc. Massive benefit.
Next
>>75784629
It would be a beautiful reality tv show event in America.
>>75788600
>SO EXACTLY SAME AS A PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY
False.
Completely false.
The elected representatives propose and pass the legislation. There is 0 unelected body in the UK that proposes legislation to the elected MP's.
>>75787754
Did keeping the pound fuck us over while everyone else got cucked and went with the Euro? Did it fuck.
Leaving wot make a difference to trade.
>>75788600
Except our government is made up of all British MPs. The EU parliament is made up from a majority of non-UK MPs. So effectively we're ruled by people who don't even live here.
>>75785475
Way to close, gonna be another Austria
>>75784877
No, no, he's been rewatching The Tudors.
>>75788042
Pre EU Britain: The old sick man of Europe, with a 70% tax rate, failing industries and at least 15-20% of every pound earned spent on trade tariffs and duties. The English immigrants in my class at school used to tell me stories about how poor they were in old blighty. They were so poor that if they did not eat their supper their mums would serve them the left overs the next night. There simply was no money to toss it away. They were so poor in the mighty britain that you describe, that over 1/3rd of my class was made up of uk immigrants - because 3rd world south africa was better than cultural values europe. Nice empty words u got there mate.
Traditional english culture - is that the one where you idolise a cultural elite who owns all the land and fucks you up the arse like they did in the banking crisis. U remember the 2008 banking crisis. Thats where your banks lost more money than they had ever made in profit - and you wound up paying for it. Remember that? Perhaps you were too busy looking at your shoes mumbling 'yes guvner' at your social betters.
Next!
>>75788213
Working out great as a population thinning methodology. Thanks
Next!
>>75788600
First of all, Parliamentary Democracy still isn't democratic. It just pretends to be.
>The EU works in exactly the same way.
Except that the people, the plebs, don't vote for EU members or policy.
>AT the moment British companies can source the best employees from all over europe.
Which is a detriment to Britain, when they could just better and employ their own people.
>They can also trade with those economies on an equal footing, without having to pay duties etc. Massive benefit.
Not that much of a benefit when the EU sets trade tariffs and quotas. You're also pretending that they can't negotiate good or better deals.
Try again?
>>75788845
The queen lays out the direction ( which she gets from the government ) in her anual speech. The parties at election time also propose the directions they will take in the next parliament and you vote for it by voting for your MP's.
The heads of state - of which Cameron is one (of 27) set out the direction for the eu. SO yes you elected Cameron and he one of the 27
NEXT
>>75784629
one can only hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY
>>75789410
Are you really pretending that an alleged vote for a parliamentarian is a vote of consent for absolutely everything the country ends up doing?
>>75789410
You are completely retarded.
READ IT AGAIN.
>There is 0 unelected body in the UK that proposes legislation to the elected MP's.
>>75788861
Yes and No.
Yes because keeping the pound meant that the currency became really strong ( unlike the 90's when a single man - Mr Soros broke the pound and forced you to adopt a devaluation - look it up ) . Having a really strong pound is bad. It gets stronger more quickly than your economy becomes productive. It means british goods are too expensive for anyone to buy - thats why your steel industry is collpsing. The british worker has to remain competitive in line with the strengthening pound to be able to compete globally - at this point the average brit worker has to be 2-3 times more productive than a pole. And this is not possible.
It also means that everyone wants to earn pounds and go spend them elsewhere - hence you got lots of immigration because it makes sense for people to come over to make a quick buck by their standards by picking fruit.
People in europe did not get cucked by adopting the euro. How did they get cucked?
>>75789124
Those English immigrants were probably poor because like the UK is gonna be they lived in a country fucked by Boers and Africans. You had a choice to stay part of an Empire and look at you now.
Also that is not our traditional culture, what you are talking about is Globalism, Capitalism that silly city boys got carried away with in the80s and 90s, no one in this country looks at that as our culture, if anything thats Amercanisation. our culture is based around Men being Gentlemen, Women being Lady's, Strong Family Unit, Standing up for what is right instead of following the money, Youth having career opportunities instead of being forced to compete with millions of Europeans like the EU fascists want us to be, those are the things that we are going to take back, those are the things we must return to our country
>>75789410
When your shithole country cedes its decision-making powers to the African Union and has it's shipping policies dictated by Somalia, you'll be in a position to speak with relevant experience on the matter of pooled sovereignty.
Until then, do kindly shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself.
>>75789885
>How did they get cucked?
Oh gee I don't know, how about Greece? Or the strength of the euro consistently being pushed down for Germany's benefit and everyone elses detriment?
You are completely fucking delusional.
>>75788965
Of course the eu parliament is made up of non brit mp's dick head. It's made up of representatives from 27 nations working together.
Thats like you being a yorkshire man being all pissed off that people from Lancasshire and other parts of britain are also part of the descision making process in the uk. Thats not an argument. The point is the eu is a democracy in which all parties get to have a say, by applying reason that means it will include mep's from all over europe. DUH
NEXT
>>75789885
>People in europe did not get cucked by adopting the euro
They had to take on the burden of the less productive nations. They (Germany and France, mainly) devalued themselves to prop up the parasites like Greece, Italy, Spain, and so on.
>>75790156
You keep posting shite and then say "NEXT" as if in any way you've refuted it.
You haven't. You're so retarded you can't even see the euro destroying nations across Europe.
>>75784877
Well sometimes history repeats itself.
>>75789191
You have nothing to say. Parliamentary democracy is what britain has been for centuries. It is democracy.
The people vote directly for their MEP's.
The presidents and primeministers of europe who are elected by the people set out europeean policy directly.
It may be a case of careful who you vote for, but that is up to the electorate in each country. DOn't be ignorant.
It cannot negotiate better deals. No one wants to trade with a market of 60 million when they can more cheaply trade with markets of 600 million
>>75785393
Huff paint, post on/pol/, sleep on road.
Repeat.
>>75789682
You need to be careful who you vote for. That is what parliamentary democracy means. ffs
>>75790156
lol bollocks. I don't want German, French, Polish etc. MEP's deciding laws in Britain when they don't even live here. Reginal areas of the UK is a ridiculous comparison. A Yorkshire MP is still lives in England like me.
Why do postal votes even exist?
If you're too lazy to get off your ass and draw an X on a piece of paper, you shouldn't have the right to vote.
>>75789689
There is no unelected body that sets out the direction in the eu either retard boy. the council of europe is made up of the heads of state from each memeber nation. every nation has a say in 1/27th of the council.
>>75790713
You don't live in the EU, you don't know what's it like.
>>75789971
No it's because before you joined ( were allowed to join) you could not trade effectively, the americans took away your empire and u had fuck all.
If u got a problem with your city boys you should elect a parliament that deals with them. But itell u what, leaving the eu wont take away the city boys - it will make them bolder
>>75790713
>There is no unelected body
Just kill yourself. You clearly don't understand how the EU works.
>>75790525
>is what britain has been for centuries.
Doesn't make it good.
>It is democracy.
Doesn't make that true.
>The presidents and primeministers of europe who are elected by the people set out europeean policy directly.
Which might be dandy if people could then vote on policy, or had more than two or three choices.
>It cannot negotiate better deals.
Source?
>No one wants to trade with a market of 60 million when they can more cheaply trade with markets of 600 million
Gee, it's almost as if they'll have to negotiate per their position.
>>75790596
The choice between two turds who hate you is not a governmental panacea. It's a plutocracy.
NEXT
>>75790668
For overseas, or those who are not able to get into a voting centre, presumably.
>>75789987
I am doing well here with facts and figures. You got fuckall mate
NEXT
>>75784629
so brexit failed? you gays are officially more cucked than the burgers now. HHHHMMMMMM
>>75791072
No the vote hasn't even been yet you stupid fucking burger.
>>75784757
Time for a new Glorious Revolution.
>>75787754
>without any plan for what a post brexit Britain looks like, you are willing to take the risk and fuck your economy royally.
this
>>75791368
Coward
>>75791368
You mean risk fucking it in leaving, or remain and be assured of the fucking?
>>75790059
Greece is a victim of poor management and a global downturn. In greece if you were the unmarried daughter of a policeman or public servant you could 'inherit' his pension. It meant that u did not have to go out and work because the public purse had to pay. In addition greece has a long history of not paying its taxes, so all the money gets sent offshore and fewer than 100 000 greeks were registered as tax payers earning more than 100 k. It was the eu that forced them to get rid of the profligacy in their financial structure. Greece had huge problems. Yet you will not find a greek in power who thinks that leaving the eu is an option. They are buckling down making things good. With eu money to help them.
And yes, you will have to adopt germanies tactic of devaluing your pound if u brexit. otherwise no one will be able to afford your goods. the germans do that and they do it well. they make sure that their productivity and out put is in line or over and above the increasing valuation of their currency. it means their customers can keep buying their goods and that they can continue to trade.
And here I thought Yankees had the worst education in the world.
>>75791282
>tfw you will never be liberated by King Willem-Alexander
>>75790157
So what, they did that on purpose to grow the eu. They invest heavily in their weaker compatriots because they want them to become strong. they dont want little mexicos on their borders they want an equal and consistent seconomic standard. because its good for peace and development
>>75791500
>>75791518
literally wat
hes right what are we going to do if we leave, no ones ever left before EU will bend us over and anal us
>>75791368
Pretty much yeah, somethings are worth more than wealth. Such as pride, dignity and safety for our children. The EU has neutered our people and culture, something many of us would pay dearly to see end and a return to common sense.
>>75784629
Please this. Please.
>>75790286
You are a dimwit. How are the nations being destroyed? provide some discussion as opposed to just spouting empty buthurt rhetoric that has no basis or foundation in reality
>>75791563
>And yes, you will have to adopt germanies tactic of devaluing your pound if u brexit
First of all, complete nonsense, second of all, I don't think you understand you complete fucking imbecile.
I don't care about why Germany is doing something, because we're talking about the effects on other economies.
Therefore, you have just admitted that the EU fucks over non-export countries with a devalued euro.
Kill yourself you sperglord.
>>75791730
>So what, they did that on purpose to grow the eu
And a mighty fine job they did too.
>because its good for peace and development
Except it hasn't been.
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>>75791799
Maybe trade with other people? It would actually open up opportunities with the Commonwealth.
>>75791917
Oh, right, so a country so poor from Germans that they can't even afford to bury it's dead citizens is not effectively destroyed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMx7nnB3reU
>>75791917
Wiping out local culture and local control in favor of a supra-national is a disaster for ordinary people. Look at the United States if you need proof.
>>75790627
Its a fucking union. u join the union with an equal say. they only legislate for those things which create common standards. They don't vote for anything else. Its the most apt comparison, except its on a supranational basis. it's exactly the same.
>>75791867
but muh largest single market + special snowflake status
>>75791993
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12154630/Why-Australia-wants-Britain-to-stay-in-the-EU.html
and the cant compete with the EU, literally like half our exports go there. theyre much bigger and much wealthier
>>75791799
cant Britain just trade with all its old partners albeit outside the EU?
>>75784877
It's not unprecedented desu
>>75788600
>>75791368
>>75790869
Fuck off mate. I lived there for over 10 years, have travelled to most eu nations and worked in more than one including the uk. I know exactly what its like and i love it.
>>75791006
http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the-eu-undemocratic-2016-3
>>75791799
C O W A R D
>>75784629
>BBC machine-gunned live
With what? Unregistered water pistols?
Bend over and take the queens massive muzzie strap on like you normally do.
>>75792258
we HAVE to trade with the EU in one way of another. They're our neighbors, right at our doorstep, and coincidentally the largest single market
our relationship/agreements will depend on how the negotiations go if we leave, could be harsh on us since we set a leave precedent.
Remain will so obviously fucking win I'm actually considering a bet at this point, all my fucking savings
Its scotland all over fucking again, there can't possibly be a logical conclusion other than remain
Brexit just can't happen its like breaking the speed of light if you know anything about politics
I see the eternal swisscuck is now in Sith Ifrica
>>75791014
You come from a 2 party state. If u want more choices then either stand or organise that s what you do in a democracy. The rest of your 'points' are non points - no one in britain is going to change their parliamentary democracy. So why even go there.
>>75792363
The Commission are unelected, they propose the laws. The parliament are elected but they cannot propose laws.
It is undemocratic, even the EU admits this. You don't realise how fucking retarded you are
>>75791500
idiot
>>75792201
No it isn't the same. One parliament is made up of countries from my country exclusively, the other is made up of 27 other countries whose politicians influence my country. They don't represent or care about UK interests.
>>75792643
W E A K , F E E B L E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBzAwro8M90
>>75792201
>u join the union with an equal say
And if all the other members say they want to screw your, your say doesn't mean jack.
>they only legislate for those things which create common standards.
Like what you can do with your appliances and groceries.
>>75792230
Fortunately that article doesn't speak for us. Just Wayne "Useless Fucktard" Swan.
>and the cant compete with the EU
Under current conditions, whilst in the EU, perhaps.
>theyre much bigger and much wealthier
At the moment. Quite a few anchors there. If Britain leaves, then those anchors will get heavier and heavier.
>>75792570
>You come from a 2 party state.
Yea, America sucks, I concur. Glad not to be from here.
>If u want more choices then either stand or organise that s what you do in a democracy.
That might be what you try to do, but then it comes down to what those in power decide to let you have.
>>75792494
yeah, I gather that, but what about setting up deals with individual EU member nations instead of trying to negotiate with the EU council or whatever?
>>75792639
but council, the national governments representatives, and the MEPs, the directly elected representatives of us, PASS THE FUCKING LAW. who cares who proposes them
(mong)
>>75791518
how is it being fucked ?
the eu funds work programs, it funds education, it builds infrastructure. One of the main differences between the uk and other eu nations is that in other nations they put up big billboards and signage saying this and that was funded by the eu. In the uk companies sometimes prefer to pay the fine associated with not publicising eu funding than put up the sign. Because you know it is honourable and gentlemanlike to reneg on your contracts and pretend that you didn't get funding, but that rather you did it all yourself and no one helped you.
>>75792827
That's what'll happen if we leave, but we no longer benefit from the current trade deals (about 50) or the ones in the pipeline, and also,
>le back of the line
>>75792396
We'll just send them to an American university.
>>75788213
It's ok, he took a shower after he had sex so he's fine.
>>75792960
>how is it being fucked ?
By being forced to support the rest of the EU.
>the eu funds work programs, it funds education, it builds infrastructure.
That's great. They can go do that. The UK can fund it's own infrastructure and education.
>Because you know it is honourable and gentlemanlike to reneg on your contracts and pretend that you didn't get funding
Are you pretending that the EU deigns to just throw money at the UK to use freely? That the UK has to pay nothing back for others to use? And that the EU has no say in how grants are applied?
How much does the UK have to put in for every Euro they get back?
NEXT
>>75792827
you clearly dont understand the EU mate. what you describe is not possible if you are an EU nation. They negotiate as a bloc, not as individual states. the EU as a whole would renegotiate all their trade deals with the UK, and if that happened there would be many states who want to not fuck the UK for economic and financial reasons, and for fear of setting a precedent if one day they themselves decide to leave
>>75791867
pride is something you will be swallowing when you realise that your farmers don't provide the range of produce they used to because there is noone to pick the damned things from the muck.
dignity is what you have because you don't scrabble around in the much picking strawberiies for some rich toff who can afford to spend 20 quid every day of the summer he wants to while you look look down at your scruffy shoes and laces and mumble 'yes guvner, thank you guvner'
>Nigger shill is back
>>75790059
If I remember right before EU Greece had metal industry, shipyards and fleet.
Now there is nothing besides tourism and some framers.
>>75791917
>How are the nations being destroyed?
Oh, lemme think of some valid reasons:
- European laws prohibiting local food providers from ever entering the big supermarkets, thus rendering the local food resource null. Every year the local agriculture sector is losing more and more because they can't place their products on the stand like they used to do before, just because they have to pander to every little bureaucratic law the European Union dictates. ( eg: you can rarely find a local Rromanian vegetable or fruit in a supermarket or even a corner shop. Everything we get is from Portugal or Spain).
- local businesses are going out of the market and they are slowly getting replaced with foreign ones. The foreign chains usually lower the price until the competition is out of the business, and guess what happens next? High prices, bad products, bad service.
I could go on and on and on. Instead of promoting local manufacturers/local food suppliers/local service providers and so forth, so that the internal economy can truly thrive, the European Union is slowly trying to transform everything into a huge corporation, while destroying most of the poorer countries.
Hell, we are forced to align ourselves to the Euro Zone by 2020. In just 4 years, we have to change our currency into the Euro, while most of our expenses will rise to match the other countries in the European Union.
Our lowest salary/month is 200 euros. A middle-class individual would get about 400-600 euros/month. Think about it for a little.
I'm not even talking about the impact of resource-stealing by other countries, whilst working under the European Union's directive. Just look at what the Austrians did in the Carpathian Mountains - natural parks completely deforested by individuals from another European country.
>>75793415
>because there is noone to pick the damned things from the muck.
The UK has 0% unemployment?
Damn kaffir, you really don't understand the basic economic principle of supply/demand.
>>75792876
>who cares who proposes them
The commission has an effective veto on laws because they can not propose things they dislike. That is fundamentally anti-democratic.
>>75793415
S P I N E L E S S
>>75792085
this has to do with economies that are like britain was in the 60's and 70's and early 80's. they need to restructure to be competitive. Its not an easy thing to do, but if they dont do it they will become basket cases like my country. my country also speaks about pride in the african way, the old ways of doing things. and look where my country is.
you cannot move backwards when the rest of the world is moving forwards. it simply does not work.
>>75793415
>S O F T
>C R A V E N
>T I M I D
Daily reminder:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html
>>75793415
If the poles weren't here the fruit pickers would have to pay more and toffs cut their profit margins to get workers in you complete and utter fucking nigger.
Mass immigration is a tool of the 1% to cut wages.
>>75792143
there is no cultural wiping out of anything. culture is one thing the eu promotes, it funds archeology, theatre, opera for those who like that sort of stuff, schools and schooling universities etc. there is no wiping out of culture, unless it is the culture of financial mimanagement or profligacy or not paying your taxes.
>>75793559
>Greece had metal industry, shipyards and fleet.
Most of the Balkan/Eastern-European countries suffered the same fate in the last 20-30 years. Our entire industry has collapsed due to greedy oligarchs that sold everything from scrap, with no regards of the future outcome. They went for the fast cash grab and they are now living with their children in different countries across the globe, not giving a fuck about how many thousands of people they left to die.
>mfw we used to be one of the largest Uranium exporters in the world
>mfw we can't extract Uranium anymore because we don't even have an Industry dedicated to that
>>75793732
>and look where my country is.
Producing idiots who think they know about the EU and Brexit but really don't?
>>75793893
>culture is one thing the eu promotes
Lel. Now I'm sure you're trolling, not just a sad EU employee. The modern "culture" they promote is an anathema to the nations which it infests.
>>75793732
Moving forward to the light is a noble thing. Just don't forget to check that the light in the is not the freight train that's going to squash you like a bug.
>>75793732
>they need to restructure to be competitive
t. rich cunt who wants to pay people 10p an hour to make more money
>>75792287
oh dear. the days of empire are long gone. they are never ever coming back. and i guess you don't live on an island, u live on a continent 300 years ago that has untold wealth, room for expansion and lots of resources....is that where u live? no. u dont live in the passt with all of those things? no. the british empire treated america as a colony, it extracted heavy taxes from the colonists, just enough was left for them so that they would be ready for the next round of leeching, but not enough to grow
why is this fucking kaffer talking about european politics? fuck off veldnigger
>>75793732
>If you accept:
There are 29 nations in the EU.
There are 166 outside of the EU.
>You accept:
You do not have to be in the EU to be a economically strong nation.
P.S don't give me that regional bullshit, in the modern world it's easier for Britain to trade with Australia than it is France.
>>75793893
>it funds
does it fuck
it appropriates and reallocates based on what the chosen few deem worthy
>>75784750
>>75784750
FPBP
>>75792541
nope. i am not proxying. I am glad that others are also willing to bring you the good light of reason.
>>75794210
>oh dear. the days of empire are long gone. they are never ever coming back.
You completely missed the fucking point of the image you dumb fucking nigger
>>75794216
He must be using a computer from the white farm he was given (stole).
Literally why are 90% of the anti-brexit people here JFs?
>>75792639
so fucking what? so fucking what? the electd officials can choose not to vote in favour of legistaion. you are moaning like a little boy who does not like the rules of the game. instead of proposing changes and playing the field like a man he runs away to sulk in his corner.
>>75794210
>He doesn't know the US became independent from Great Britain
>He's also using the same exact arguments the British used against the American's
>>75794041
That was a "good" move by EU. They removed independence of countries in economy and destroyed their industries. Now trying to leave will be almost a death sentence.
Britain is still somewhat alive.
>>75785076
gold
SOON.
South African whingebags can get to fuck, we never should have left.
>>75793893
>Implying no theft
>>75794602
>MUH THE EU IS DEMOCRATIC
>"well no"
>so fucking what?
REMAINERS
>>75792705
no they care about the common interest. do u actually believe that a pole would want something you absolutely do not want? surely u recognise that people are more or less the same? or is there a specific non-trivial example that you can point to where all the other countries in the eu are purposefull targetting the uk with shitty stuff just to piss them off? because, u know, they are foreigners....
>>75794716
>What's the next step of your master plan?
>>75784629
I've never even been there and want this to happen.
>>75794602
>so fucking what? so fucking what?
>EU is undemocratic
>so fucking what?
Fuck off you nignog
>>75792766
she's dead mate. did you know they spent 9million squid on her funeral? for less money you have bought every scot and northern english person a shovel and they would have dug a hole so deep that you could have handed her over to satan personally
>>75794846
>or is there a specific non-trivial example that you can point to where all the other countries in the eu are purposefull targetting the uk with shitty stuff just to piss them off?
Most of them want an EU army where we don't
>>75794602
>instead of proposing changes
What good would it do in an undemocratic system?
>>75794846
>no they care about the common interest
You're like a naive little girl.
>do u actually believe that a pole would want something you absolutely do not want?
If it benefits the Pole? Absolutely.
>surely u recognise that people are more or less the same?
JIDF confirmed.
>>75792783
are you shitting me?
Imdependence means a discussion about your fucking groceries? really. GTFO
>>75794677
Yep. Slowly but surely they have infiltrated most of the important sectors of one's country and have been doing their "thing" for a long, long time.
It's actually sad and funny to see most of the people thinking that they are actually living a better life than they did even 10 years ago.
Hell, Romania has one of the most expensive food markets in Europe, while our agriculture sector is forced to sell its products only abroad. An average Romanian spends more than a fucking German per month on normal expenses, by a lot. Whilst having one of the lowest salary/month in Europe.
Thank you oh great EU, for cucking us more than the Soviets did.
>>75795018
>every scot
The Tories got 22% last election :^)
>>75794826
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/bibliotheque/briefing/2013/130619/LDM_BRI(2013)130619_REV2_EN.pdf
>However, the European Parliament (EP), and the Council, have the right to invite the Commission to present legislative proposals.
>Whilst this 'indirect' initiative right does not create an obligation on the Commission to propose the legislation requested, the Treaty of Lisbon codified the Commission's obligation to provide reasons for any refusal to follow a parliamentary initiative.
>Many argue in this context that Parliament could take the Commission to the Court of Justice of the EU if it fails to justify a negative decision.
>>75794716
Hey I know you, you're that guy who went during elections or was it the day before? Putting posters of Nigel Farage and UKIP like that out of voting stations, keep up god's work anon!
>inb4 what's step 4?
>>75795018
>she's dead mate. did you know they spent 9million squid on her funeral? for less money you have bought every scot and northern english person a shovel and they would have dug a hole so deep that you could have handed her over to satan personally
How the fuck did South African get swindled by the Labour cucks?
>>75792827
they trade as a block. there is no space for individual agreements. and think if u could do individual agreements, think how expensive it would be to do business, imagine 27 different types of tariff and trade agreement, each with its own nuances and complications. it's like a non starter
>>75794846
You do know that one the reasons Ukraine was trying to get on the EU good side because it was promised money for its agrarian sector and being able to sell food to EU countries?
And EU gutted them like a fish with restrictions while kind of working with the letter of promise.
http://www.andywilliamson.com/10-points-to-consider-about-brexit-and-the-eu-referendum/
One of my friends posted this and is holding it as a cornerstone of their decision, I'm real tired, not very smart and can't be arsed typing much so who wants to refute the points for me
>>75794826
>>75795173
and
Article 225 TFEU
"The European Parliament may, acting by majority of its component Members, request the Commission to submit any appropriate proposal on matters on which it considers that a Union act is required for the purpose of implementing the Treaties. If the Commission does not submit a proposal, it shall inform the European Parliament of the reasons."
>>75795115
>Advocating for an invasive nanny-state like this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kettle-and-toaster-crackdown-after-brexit-vote2/
So yea, groceries, because they have no line.
NEXT
>>75793062
>>75793062
>>75795173
>to invite the Commission to present legislative proposals
>Many argue in this context that Parliament could take the Commission to the Court of Justice of the EU if it fails to justify a negative decision.
So basically they have to grovel and "some say" they could be sued.
Some say. What amazing protection of democracy they have. Simply amazing.
>>75795336
>request
Again, grovelling.
>>75788600
Parliamentary democracy is cancer and it should die.
The politicians literally don't need to answer to anyone once they get into office, which means their decisions are never based on popular vote, they're based on their own opinions.
>>75793264
the uk gets more out of the eu in toto than it puts in. areas like the ne of england, scotland etc recieve lots of eu funding for all sorts of stuff like infrastructure etc. and no, the uk can not do it all alone - because if it could it would. right?
>>75795336
>may request
>they don't even have to do it
>just say "no" and give "reasons"
Europeans are OK with this. Top fucking jej.
Jews create regressive left system that destroys Europe and US, brings in millions of jew-hating muslims.
Jews infiltrate right wing politics, Donald Trump is their chosen candidate for the US.
Make it seem like Donald is hated by the establishment by ordering their controlled media to focus on him completely in a negative light.
Pay idiots to riot like clowns, more people vote trump. Europe forces Europeans to bow to immigrant occupation army, more move to jew-controlled right.
You are now forced to chose between Jew-controlled batshit crazy Leftist Radical Islamist anarchist nutjobs
Or
Jew controlled Resurgent right that promises to expel those evil Anti-Isreal muslims and commies
What was going to be a revolution against the globalist bankers and zionist scum is now set up to be the world war 3 collapse of the west they need for their global government.
People who created this mess switch to opposition they created and we belong to and get away with it completely.
Fuck I hope Donald Trump is for real. Meeting with Kissinger? The fuck is going on?
I just think that Donald Trump is too fucking convenient.
>>75795173
>>75795336
>"Thanks for the proposal" >>/inthebin/
>See we're democratic!
Are you retarded?
>>75794846
>there a specific non-trivial example that you can point to where all the other countries in the eu are purposefull targetting the uk
Most recent "negotiations"
>Cameron wanted a law so you only qualify for benefits if you've been in UK X number of years
>Polish PM said no because it would effect Poles living in the UK
Other leaders countries prioritise their own citizens over the UK. It doesn't work.
>>75795415
>>75795500
>>75795529
"some say" because it doesnt ever fucking happen
I think you over play the role of the commission
>>75795484
>the uk gets more out of the eu in toto than it puts in
Source on this?
>and no, the uk can not do it all alone - because if it could it would. right?
It's going to.
>>75795318
He's making shit fallacies and a load of other bollocks like saying the EU wouldn't want a trade agreement with us and would fuck their own economies up to spite us and so on.
And the UNSC position one is complete bullshit, the EU is trying to replace the UK/France's individual seats with itself.
>>75795502
>Meeting with Kissinger? The fuck is going on?
Meeting with Kissinger isn't indicative of being controlled by jews. Kissinger has been essentially blackballed by the tribe and globalists for his views.
>>75795484
>the uk gets more out of the eu in toto than it puts in.
You cannot even believe this nonsense, are you just trolling?
>>75784629
As great as it would be, the chances for this are as good as for Pope Francis to announce a new crusade against muslims.
>>75794894
Saving Britain, my lad.
>>75795239
Aye. That was nothing though, compared to what's coming.
>>75793559
you forgot the ne important word ' uncompetitive'. they had uncompetitive industries. they will always die. and not because of the eu mind you but because customers will always decide to buy the highest quality at the lowest price. The only place where this is not the case is like belorus with its one tractor factory that keeps making factories that no one buys.
>>75784629
Who else is King Harry, The Absolute Monarch Team here?
>>75795593
He's talking shit mate, see: >>75795723
>>75784629
>stupid inbrits think the vote won't be rigged
Come on guys.
>>75795736
You need to take a video of the road of bunting with God Save the Queen playing as you go into vote so we can all see the glory
>>75795568
It doesn't happen isn't good enough, just the principle that it's possible is not good enough.
>>75795484
>the uk gets more out of the eu in toto than it puts in
Are you fucking baiting you complete mongoloid? We're like the 3rd biggest net contributor and could replace all the EU funding ourselves and save money.
>>75793607
i very fucking much doubt that there are rules preventing local produce in the shops. the fact is that portugal and spain make a better quality product for less. it simple market economics. and yes prices may rise, but thats when more competition creeps in again to make prices lower. thats how market economies work.
>>75795484
If their plans go through it's certainly going to get more people out of the EU than it puts in, hence why so many want to leave.
>>75789180
Kek
>>75792536
I'd also bet everything on remain.
No way your masters will just give up their power.
>>75795864
by principle the queen can tell dave to fuck off tomorrow, or australias government, or canadas
doesnt mean shit
>>75790059
Powys post best post
>>75795853
Cracking idea. I'll do exactly that, and post the webm in the all-day brit/pol/ thread that will no doubt be running for three days straight. I'll also be shitposting live updates as I go throughout the night.
>>75795714
Man I fucking hope so. Trump is the only thing that's keeping the safeties on stateside. If he turns around and fucks us the new right we've created will be torn in half.
>>75795931
>implying multinationals don't lobby the EU to create artificial monopolies and destroy competition.
Seriously, foreign multinationals come in, sell under cost to ruin everyone else then price gouge.
>>75784877
Well it is based of English history.
>>75795769
Don't worry, i gathered that from the whole thread.
>>75795755
There's a difference between uncompetitive and rigged.
>>75795971
This
Place your bets on Remain using any spare cash.
>>75795318
Under "what I do" page:
>Evaluated a range of parliamentary networks and support services for the UN.
>Run workshops on social media for the European Commission, European Parliament and a number of parliaments across Europe, Latin America and Canada.
He's part of the parasite class.
>>75795755
>they had uncompetitive industries
>I pay too much in wages
>better flood them with 3rd worlders and slavs, cut wages from the flooded job market and tell them it's for their economic good whilst they all get poorer and I get richer.
t. Shlomo Shekelstein
>>75786035
Someone photoshop a EU flag on that guard tower, and have Merkel inside of it.
>>75795755
Belorus tractors go good in Russia and Ukraine.
And they were not so much uncompetitive as they were not allowed to compete. Dismantling parts of Greece industrial complex was a condition on part of EU to allow its entry.
But without this parts everything else could not work.
>>75796044
Good luck brother. May your ladder be long enough for those tall lamp posts and your big palls
>>75796326
On it.
>>75793616
no monkey brain britain has probably in the region of 5 -10 percent unemployment. mental health, injury and workshyness all contribute to that figure. however, the average brit wont go work in a field because he wont earn enough to live. a seasonal worker from eastern europe is the ideal choice because he costs less per hour. if u employed real brits to do the work, it would mean all the grown goods would be more expensive in the shops because you would have to pay minimum wage - hence the prices would go up because of costs at source, and demand would quickly disappear. and then the farmer would not plant that again. he would plant somethig that can be harvested mechanically, because the market could not bear the cost of manual labour to pick the stuff. simple economics. thats why u have mexicans. because the market needs them to do the picking. its why we have black farm labour. it makes sense. its the same reason they have eastern european labour, because the labour makes a buck and brit prices are kept down. simple simple.
>>75793062
Fucking savage.
>>75796326
>mfw Science for EU is constantly on my Facejew live feed.
>"I'm voting Remain, because it's best for science!"
>"You mean your research group gets EU funding?"
>"OMG IT'S 2016, HOW CAN YOU BE SO ANTI-SCIENCE?"
I work in Science and am tired of this kind of shit from other Scientists.
>>75796409
>He's labour
>He supports the suppression of the working classes wages
>>75796409
Class globalist fallacy there.
>however, the average brit wont go work in a field because he wont earn enough to live
>flood jobs market to drive down wages to make more money for themselves
>B-but the lazy brits won't work for the low prices these poles I had imported will so we need even more poles so I can pay even lower wages to everyone and up my profits
t. Shlomo Goldenberg
>>75796609
I don't get it, the government could literally fund everything the EU does now and save money.
>>75796228
Already done so. If i lose? Great! If i win the bet, at least it'll soften the blow.
>>75796409
It's 5.4, but yes, not sure of the makeup.
>however, the average brit wont go work in a field because he wont earn enough to live.
Which will drive wages up, making it more amenable.
>it would mean all the grown goods would be more expensive in the shops because you would have to pay minimum wage
It'd fluctuate, but more people would have more money because of it.
>thats why u have mexicans. because the market needs them to do the picking.
Except that's not a good thing. There are more than enough Septics to replace the Spics, but because they don't have to, they won't, and that hurts the economy.
>>75787754
>look at me, look at me
its the SA / Swiss proxy guy talking gibberish as usual.
>>75794216
i am an eu citizen. and clearly I have a better grasp of the impacts of the actions that you are so blithely proposing to undertake without even a plan for how u will go forward once it has been taken. I notice you aren't winning on the reasoning side of things. just name calling and stuff.
>>75796609
May Omnissiah bless you.
>>75796707
B-but the tories are e-evil
>>75796609
For every £1 received from the EU for art and science grants, we pay £2.30.
>>75794258
but it makes sense to you , to be living next door to a massive market and excluding yourself from it. did u cut off your nose to spite your face?
>>75789124
>he wastes perfectly good leftovers
>>75796729
You think you can predict what the weather is going to be in 10 day's time.
>>75796845
>excluding yourself from it
Yeah because noone but EU nations can trade with the EU.
WTO rules are pretty good today, and a trade war is not in their interests either. Are Merkel and Hollande going to risk plunging their economies into trouble by starting a trade war with a huge importer of their goods with elections in both nations coming next year? I think not.
>>75796707
The answer to that one is "muh tories" or "muh dodgy economics figures are better than your dodgy economic figures".
I gave up on the economic argument long ago, simply because it was always going to be a clusterfuck of bad guesses from all sides.
On top of that, it's really irked me that people think economy is literally the only factor in this referendum. I've thought people shouldn't be able to vote before this whole shitstorm, it's just been reaffirmed.
>>75794667
keep laughing buthead. you clearly do not understand my response.
>>75796729
>and clearly I have a better grasp of the impacts
Worst lie you've made in this thread.
>without even a plan
What are you expecting people to say here?
>Step 1 - Brexit
>Step 2 - Invade EU and take their resources
The plan will be trade deals, reallocation of funds saved, reallocation of workers (now that foreigners won't be imposed upon them).
>I notice you aren't winning on the reasoning side of things
And you're not on either side, instead avoiding reason altogether.
>>75784629
MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN
Vote Leave.
>>75789124
>this pasta again
Autism
>>75796845
Russia is a big market. Also we continue to grow our agrarian export.
I think Putin will be glad to help Britain with any possible problems with food.
>>75796845
In a modernised economy such as the UK, geography is irrelevant.
You're whole argument rests on this premise and it is undeniably false. Please just consider what I'm suggesting for a moment if you are as opened minded as I assume you think yourself to be
>>75797034
I talk about the unelected leaders, people like Juncker saying "There can be no democratic choice against the European treaties" and immigration too. Both work very well.
>>75795318
This guy is clueless. Almost every point is factually incorrect.
Only problem is he writes like his mind will never be changed. If you want to refute him to change just his mind, don't bother. If you want to refute his points with a wider audience in mind, spend just a few minutes researching each point and Google will tell you otherwise on almost all of them.
>>75796845
How the hell are we going to be cut off from it in the EEA after a two year grace period written into the lisbon treaty for such an eventuality. Off next week and will happily use that time to shut you down, sources, references etc, busy atm, all this talk of yours is complete short-termist gibberish. You'll ignore most likely.
We've chained ourselves to a corpse.
>Look out for 'hey proxy guy'.
>>75795071
>7
bullshit. I have yet to see any credible evidence for that claim. there has however been a standardisation of the military equipment in use in the eu, particularly in line with nato membership. u have for years used common ammunition, calibres etc.
>>75797572
>bullshit. I have yet to see any credible evidence for that claim
>http://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/uk-central-europe-frown-at-juncker-s-european-army/
>During an interview on 8 March, Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said that the EU needed its own military, in order to deal with the Russian threat, as well as to restore the bloc’s standing around the world.
>Germany and France support Juncker’s idea
>>75793062
>>75796326
>>75796400
>>75797572
>u have for years used common ammunition, calibres etc.
And how is this in any way similar to handing over our armed forces to the EU anyway? NATO standarisation is good. Handing command away is not.
>>75795304
yup and corrupt ukrainian leadership fell for it. Ukraine is also more complicated as a result of it holding the most important european oil shale basins. Putin wants to be energy supplier to europe, europe does not want to be beholden to russian energy supply forever. complicated.
>>75795345
your kekking me up. the brits are using words like pride and independence and you are on about fucking toasters. jesus. I bet you they are better toasters.
>>75797572
>https://twitter.com/junckereu/status/468847798725918720
You are SO full of shit mate
>>75796845
>mah jew gains are threatened
because trade with a rich country will be shut off.
>>75787754
>You are so stupid, that without any plan for what a post brexit Britain looks like,
it's not really that complicated
>>75795415
you think that an argument is made by using emotive words like grovelling? U must have a small mind to fall for that kind of shit mate. small mind to confuse procedural issues with emotional ones.
i dont know much about this whole "brexit" thing, but my hard left cuck uncle gets mad every time the TV mentions it. he says "the brits are fucking idiots if they leave the EU" etc...so why do leftcucks hate the idea of the UK leaving the EU?
pls explain
>>75795478
suomi poika . parliamentary democracy is what you have. it is well out of the boundaries of this conversation to discuss the rights and wrongs of it. it wont change.
>>75797778
Excellent work lad.
>>75797952
Are you retarded? Or just trying to avoid the whole point because of how silly it makes you look?
The point is that the EU is unnecessarily invasive, including shit as petty as toasters.
>>75798106
Because they love big government, and having that government control things they don't like.
>>75798193
>it wont change.
Because it's not really a democracy?
>>75798106
>so why do leftcucks hate the idea of the UK leaving the EU?
They'll never get to have their gay-buttsecks vacation in Eurabian London.
>>75798106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk
Watch this and you will understand
>>75797969
>it's real
>>75795734
Imagine Francis being smart and announcing a new crusade against just one muslim sect, deeming it "the wrong one" because of hate, wars, etc and shifting all the muslim sins on them only. What would happen?
>>75798089
So having an unelected body with an effective veto isn't a bad thing for a purportedly democratic system? Grovelling and asking is all the EU parliament is allowed to do - after all the plebs can't have too much of a say can they?
>>75798324
Of course it is. Yet the lefties tell us we're crazy, they are so blinded by there naive ideals that they actively deny reality.
Britain will be reborn
>>75797841
Only now Ukraine is completely fucked and EU started dissecting it. They already bought a good chunk of oil shales.
And Ukraine doesn't have any industry to speak of. Their farmers are basically dying out because there is nowhere to sell.
EU was doing the same for other counties within it making sure that they can't exit without being fucked over.
>>75795549
so u cant claim benefits in the eu unless you have worked for two years. it's like that in england. so the way it works is that if a pole has worked for two or more years in poland he can claim benefits in the uk. the uk sends his dole request to the polish governement which then pays the brit government back the cost of giving the pole the benefit. its the same with the hundreds of thousands of brits claiming benefits across the eu. its all cross subsidised and passed back to the authority that has collected his taxes previously and against which he is drawing.
>>75795593
i am trying to catch up with all the typing. so i am not going for sources. look yourself. add up trade benefit etc into the whole mix. add up the pounds made from successfull research projects which are funded with eu money and then go on to become viable products that are bought
>>75798214
red dress girl needs to donate some tiddies to lefty
>>75798608
>i am trying to catch up with all the typing. so i am not going for sources. look yourself.
It's already been posted>>75795723
It says you're full of shit and uneducated.
>add up trade benefit etc into the whole mix
You really want to be shifting the goalposts in this argument?
>add up the pounds made from successfull research projects which are funded with eu money
Except that outside of the EU, Britain could handle those projects themselves and not have to share.
>>75784629
Make sure war happens if you don't Brexit.
Do it for him lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
V O T E
L E A V E
>>75798496
>so the way it works is that if a pole has worked for two or more years in poland he can claim benefits in the uk. the uk sends his dole request to the polish governement which then pays the brit government back the cost of giving the pole the benefit.
Holy fuck, you're literally spouting garbage at this point. Complete untruths. Like the EU army, reply to Juncker's own fucking tweet you lying shithead faggot. >>75797969
>>75798694
And they both need to donate some pussy to me.
>>75798608
>funded with EU money
There is no 'EU money', it's money that could just as easily have been spent by that nation's national government on the exact same thing.
