/pol/ btfo!
Don't have 4 kids when you work at McDonalds.
Dumb fuck.
>4 kids
>on a minimum wage
>>75783261
false dilemma
>I didn't follow company policy for taking time off and they punished me for taking a random day off
wew lads. I worked a Walmart when going to college and I would take whole months off and then come back like nothing was wrong and nobody got booty blasted. I just followed the rules put into place for taking time off.
>>75783329
>false
Where is the father(s)?
Stupid fucking entitled nigger.
Dig ditches for a second job
>>75783329
OPs pic shows that it is most definitely a real dilemma.
She's too fucking old to have young kids Jesus Christ
>4 children
>Working for minimum wage
Someone's fucked up here, and it isn't McDinks
>>75783160
Thats right, McDonalds Mexico better implement that minimum wage before she starts there next year
>>75783329
No, it's not.
>>75783160
Outdated shitpost, get outta here
>>75783261
this
fpbp
Since when is having kids a special club for people with money? EVERYBODY has the right to have kids.
>>75783449
beaners age like milk, she's probably like 30
>>75783261
>Expecting people to be responsible
kek
>>75783160
>McDonald's is responsible for his poor life choices
Sure thing op you got me
Maybe don't have 4 kids?
I mean I can sympathize, but god damn.
>>75783465
You could say that she McFucked up.
>Implying you were supporting your 4 kids on your mcdonalds paycheck before
Already blew your monthly check Juana?
Also there are charity organizations that will give you food for showing up no questions asked. If survival is what she's worried about, she must realize that most places have at least one soup kitchen/volunteer service that make sure you don't starve
>>75783622
>>Expecting black people to be responsible
ftfy. Only whites are held to high expectations and to follow the rules... blacks can literally let their kids play in the gorilla exhibit at the zoo and nobody thinks there is anything negligent about doing that.
>>75783591
Since when is having a horse a special club for people with money? EVERYBODY has the right to have a horse.
You also have a right to live in perpetual poverty because you have to feed and house your pets. Nobody is saying that you can't have children, just that it's unwise to not have a financial safety net and pop out 4 kids. Condoms are what, a few bucks for a pack? Some clinics even hand them out for free. There's no excuse to get knocked up if you're not a fucking idiot. She knew the risks and ignored them, and it's not McDonald's responsibility to give her time off on short notice because "MUH BABY, THINK ABOUT MUH CHILLINS, MUH BABY"
>>75783591
Only people who have learned that rights come with responsibilities should have the right to raise children. That is what separates us from apes. Oh wait...
>>75783329
>having children is a choice
>where you work is a choice
>choosing to have children and working at a place that won't give you leave
>complaining about those two choices resulting in negative results
Yeah no. It is not the role of the business or the state to provide for the chilluns. It is the role of the parent.
>>75783160
>/pol/
>btfo
>Ever
http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/
>>75784652
LLLLOOK AT YOU HACKER, A PATHETIC CREATURE OF MEAT AND BONE PANTING AND SWEATING AS YOU RUN THROUGH MY CORRIDORS. HOW CAN YOU CHALLENGE A PERFECT IMMORTAL MACHINE?
>>75783160
You're not. Murder suicide is the way to go.
>>75783591
You're probably just joking, but 71% of all American workers made less than $50,000 last year. I would say $40-$50k a year is just enough to support a family on independently without government handouts.
When /pol/ says "haha fuck you don't have children even if you work 40 hours a week slave peasant, my mommy and daddy paid for everything unlike you nigger", they're telling an incredibly large portion of the population, including large amounts of white people who would make good parents, that they can't have kids.
Here's your replacement
>>75783160
No Ms Meija, I expect you to die
>>75783329
fuck up
>>75784279
Nobody cares because they can't tell the difference
>>75783160
That's amazing that a 50 year old woman can still have children in elementary school
>>75783160
>poor people have 4+kids and then complaining they cant maintain them
Sometimes am glad they get beaten up by the police
>>75783160
I told my Hispanic manger in the charge of the schedule that I'm taking two weeks off to go galavanting around the Mediterranean and I still got a 200$ paycheck for two weeks of not even being in the country.
So some how I doubt the images claim.
>>75785473
She was 23 when they started elementary school anon, they just haven't passed yet.
>>75784930
That it is cruel does not change the fact that it is true. If you're mad that reality doesn't support your delusions, go find religion.
How hard can it be to not let your men nut inside so much that you manage to get FOUR kids, when you're still working a shitty minimum wage job?
This lady deserves what she has coming for her, but the children doesn't.
>Needing an entire day off to take your kid to school
>I need a whole day off
>to drive a kid to school and drop them off
this is why you're working at mcdonalds. When a 15 minute chore becomes an all day task, there's a reason you're being paid shit wages.
>>75783160
Why the fuck would you have 4 kids when you know you can't do better
Jesus fucking Christ Juana, get your shit together
>How are we supposed to survive on $174.80?"
eat off the dollar menu?
>>75786276
>15 minutes to drop your kid off
wew
>>75786390
Yeah. 15 minutes. When I took care of my worthless degenerate sisters children, it took a whole god damn 15 minutes to get them to, and drop them off at school.
>>75786109
To be fair... women don't know when a man came inside her until it's already happened. Granted, this is where birth control comes into play. Maybe a woman should be on birth control if she's working a minimum wage job and baby daddy is too busy being in jail to provide for the family.
>>75783160
>Having kids when the only job you can get is burger flipper
>Having 4 kids when the only job you can get is burger flipper
Stupid cunt brought this on herself. Keep fighting for $15/hour, you'll be replaced by machines that much faster.
Yeah I don't know why the fuck she needs a day off just to take her kids to school, it's called wake the fuck up early, or have them take the fucking school bus.
Also why the fuck does she have 4 kids if she's working minimum wage, hopefully her 4 baby daddies at least pay child support.
>>75783160
You aren't. Because you fucked up. You had four children with no job prospects other than mcdonalds and made very poor mating choices so now you're single and broke. Life has consequences, lets stop pretending there aren't consequences for incompetence.
Well, would you fags be saying it's her fault if you found out she was raped 4 times? An before you say "abort" remember most of you /pol/ fags now are against it
>I has fo chilrens
>>75783835
People unironically think accepting charity is more shameful than accepting welfare.
Maybe they think that they earned that welfare by voting for socialists. Idk.
>>75783160
>I have 4 children.
found the problem
>exterminate those parasites
gave the solution
>>75786841
If it's happened that many times she's obviously coming back for more. And why the fuck are you trying to change the argument to some faggot moral stand about abortion? Stick to the subject you faggot.
>>75786841
just because she was raped 4 times doesn't mean she should vote for something that would screw over minimum wage workers, causing them to get hours cut, or even just lose their job altogether which is highly likely. $15 minimum wage is destructive. i don't care how many dicks went inside her, the lower middle class shouldn't foot the bill of her sluttiness.
>>75783329
You can't just state [FALLACY] and win an argument.
And it's not even a false dilemma you fucking idiot.
>>75786989
your ID is almost Mc Weebo. have a coke.
> 4 children
> work at mcdonalds
> how could the government wrong me like this?
>>75783329
>can't keep legs closed
>false dilemma
woo lad
>>75783261
First post best post
so what, she took every single weekday off and is surprised when she doesn't keep her job?
>>75784930
Is there a limit on this "right to have kids that other people have to pay for and provide for"?
Can every woman on earth have 12 kids for 5 or 6 generations and make the total population reach the trillions?
>>75783329
>I don't know what a false dilemma is
>>75783160
To hell with the whore.
I don't care if she can't support her kids.
That's what she gets for not having an education, and for spreading those legs for every bruthah that would tap that.
>>75784930
It's literally true though and that's what Double income became basically a requirement in middle class workers.
Seriously, don't have children if you can't afford the time to spend with them or are living off government handouts.
>>75786989
rare pepe
>complaining about tight schedules and difficulty getting hours
>expecting $15/hr to somehow fix this and not make it worse
>>75783160
shouldn't have had so many kids, but yeah that's pretty fucked up
oh you dont want to work for under 15 dollars an hour? no problem, you're fired and a robot will do it for free you worthless pleb
Wow, really makes you think.
>>75787716
This is what you get for allowing and encouraging women to enter the workforce.
One or two outliers that are fully capable in their profession is one thing but putting the expectation for 50% representation of females in the workforce is societal suicide.
>>75783160
You're not supposed to raise 4 kids on minimum wage.. you're not even supposed to work on minimum wage all your life, those are temporary jobs for students and the likes..
You're basically asking that student type jobs that are on or near minimum wage so that students can work on the side whilst studying.. be paid the same as actual you know.. regular jobs with some kind of education behind them, that pay much more than the minimum wage.
This really illustrates it in a nutshell, this woman actually believes that she should be able to work at mcdonalds and earn enough to support 4 kids.. no.. minimum wage jobs are for students so they barely scratch by whilst studying.. they're not intended to raise kids on..
sadly a generation of idiots have been raised that give people like this a piedestal. And convince these kinds of people that they deserve things that they don't and that will make minimum wage businesses non competitive and have to close down.. when you are paying someone minimum wage.. it certainly is not because you have any other choice due to competition and other things, because who doesn't want to pay a little more and keep their employees happy..
>>75783160
Don't have 4 children.
>>75783160
And while i sympathize with her situation not being good.. seriously 4 kids and single mother.. working minimum wage job that adults are not supposed to work on..
Yes that sucks, but why don't you try to improve your competence in something.. you have 4 kids fgs.. 4 kids as single mother.. Instead of doing that yourself you're asking mcdonalds to arbitrarily pay you more thus crippling them competitively, because you are in a shit situation?
Instead of raising the minimum wage artificially which will destroy the businesses that run on such a stringent budget to have necessity to even have minimum wage employees in the first place.. You should argue to bring higher paying jobs and such back to the US that have gone to other nations..
The minimum wage is called MINIMUM it's the worst jobs you can possibly find that are in that paygrade.. because they are easy, manual labour and thus pays very little and really are mostly meant for students.. and younger kids.
And being heavily taxed and all these kinds of things simply makes it so that US businesses can't pay their employers very much.
>implying wage cucks won't be begging for less than minimum wage jobs when robots and automation is further developed.
>tfw electrical engineering student
>tfw will ruin lives
Also.. why do leftist women very often put their kids up as some kind of appeal to emotion..
Look nobody hates kids, well a few weirdos might but generally everyone likes kids, including other peoples kids and you know being happy for others and their kids.. But you're acting like you had to have 4 kids.. you could have chosen to maybe have 1 or zero if you are single mother on minimum wage..
Seriously some leftists women actually just pump out a lot of kids, to get their hands on handouts so that they can get away with every bad decision they have made cause.. it's for the childrens sake, you can't say no to the children because of her bad decisions! it really seems like that sometimes..
>>75783591
WHO GUNNA PAY FOR DDEES KIDZ
>>75789491
>Liking kids
Why? They're little spoiled shits
Make it $15 but take away their welfare check. Let McDonald's pay for her kids not me.
>>75783160
Her children are not McDonald's responsibility.
>>75783687
>>>>9gag
>>75783605
>beaners
Your sight ain't too good burgerfriend
>>75783261
/thread
>>75783160
How do you work for minimum wage? It's so fucking easy to get a job that'll pay more than that. My summer job pays $10.50/hr starting and we are always understaffed. How do people manage to live their entire lives without obtaining a single marketable skill above that of a fucking high schooler?
>>75783622
>niggers
>people
>>75783160
Don't worry you wonderful POC, once you have $15/hour, you'll have a 52 week vacation with your kids
>>75792456
>Juana Mejia
:^)
>>75783160
>I asked for a DAY off to "bring my child to school"
Nigga, like, just go to a school that isn't an 8 hour drive away
>>75784930
They can have kids, they can do whatever they want.
However, they're making the conscious decision to have children, and then complaining that they can't afford to feed their kids.
As Michael Jackson put it "If ya can't feed ya baby, then don't have a baby"
I know it sucks to think you can't have kids if you're super poor, but that is just the facts of the matter. Two adults living together can make a very nice living if both of them even make something like $35,000 a year (which is low). You add one or two kids, and suddenly they're in poverty.
If you wanna have kids, just save money. Live with your wife for 5 or 6 years, save as much money as possible, then have your child. That is actually what my parents did. They could not afford a kid when they got married, so they waited and saved up all they could, and when I was born used the savings to help raise me.
>>75784964
Can't fucking wait for food conveyor belts. No more nigger fingers in my food.
>>75783160
>an entire day off to take a child to school
The fuck?
>>75783591
It's been a "special club for people with money" since it cost money to raise children.
>>75783160
That's ok I'm sure the father makes enough money to support the family and pay for a babysitter.
>>75783160
15 bucks an hour for 40 hours a week only gives you 400 bucks
you have 4 children
even if you get what you want you will still be fucked.
>>75794613
400 bucks after taxes
>>75783160
What liberals are doing to these people is horrible. They are not going to get $15 an hour. They are going to be the first ones replaced by robots if minimum wage gets raised to $15 an hour. Automation may be inevitable for them, but it is pure evil for liberals to use them to push for $15, knowing damn well they would lose their jobs and are too stupid to realize it.
>>75783160
Get another job, a second job or put your kids to work (too bad there are child labor laws now huh).
>>75783261
fpbp
Why the fuck does she work at mcdonalds if she has a family to support
>>75783261
If only the vast majority thought like you
>>75794749
>get a second job
Because minimum wage employers are willing to hire workers without full availability.
McDonalds as a job isn't what you're meant to be living off. Its what you do on the side for a bit of money. And as a married woman you shouldn't even have a job, but of course the father isn't living with you any more.
>>75783261
Fucking /thread
>>75794932
Yeah she should just get a higher paying job, everyone should just get a job that pays enough to support a family, there's enough of them for everyone.
Are people like you fucking retarded or just sheltered from the real world?
>>75783261
FPBP
>>75783160
Why have 4 kids then retard?
>>75786482
lol, you're so mad I bet those kids are light brown.
>>75783160
Minimum Wage jobs existed so that high school kids could get job experience
These jobs were never meant to support families
>>75783160
You need a whole DAY off to take your kid to school?
What about the next day of school? Tuesday?
Are you going to need that DAY off as well?
I seriously don't fucking get this. Taking a kid to school . . . I mean, is the school three states over? What the FUCK?
>>75783160
>/pol/btfo
That doesn't happen in the rest of the civilized world, only in America
>>75797537
I meant getting a day off, the nigger is weong for having 4 kids with a male nigger who are better than Houdini at escaping child support
>>75783160
Get a better job and stop having kids.
This has been said before in the thread, but is the only correct answer. NEXT THREAD
>>75797520
A relative like her aunt might be driving the child to school everyday, but the aunt can't that one day.
Use your brain, however I agree that she didn't need the entire day off for it, but perhaps it would be the only way it works with McDonalds, they might not be able to get a replacement worker for only an hour or two.
>>75797816
>just get a better job
See: >>75796710
>>75794394
>everybody has the right to have kids
No, they don't why do you even think that.. they don't have the right to not being able to provide for the kid, and then still go ahead with it and then have not just one but several.. and then try to ask OTHER FAMILIES to pay for the kids..
If you can't provide for your kid, you don't have the right to have it.. because it then becomes someone elses problem to feed them and all this stuff, and you can't expect to just do that.
Infact africa should have strict 1 child policy, aswell as other nations that have way too many children and knowing full well they can't support them, relying simply on charity donations and pitty pictures of starving kids, instead of being responsible adults and parents.
Also looking around the world it's incredible how some of these that have many kids that starve and such because they can't provide for them.. how little they actually care about their kids.. they pop them out and expect someone else to deal with them..
No i don't think at all these people should automatically have the right to have kids that they can't even or don't even plan to provide for..
>>75783160
By not working at a McDonald's as an adult. By this point in your life you should have a career and education or you have failed at life.
>>75783160
>mo' money fo' muh programs
>>75798602
then don't have four fucking kids. That's not hard at all.
>>75784964
Can't wait. Why wouldn't you buy one of these?
>never fucks up
>will work 7 12 hour shifts non stop and not complain
>doesn't need health insurance
>never takes sick days
>never takes vacation
100% pure profit. I'd have nothing BUT these if I ran a fast food restaurant
>>75799549
If you allow bullshit like that then you promote/reward bad behaviour and end up with a world populated by a bunch of retards that can't act responsibily or maintain a civilized society but only are so populous because they breed like rabbits and other peoples altruism helped their kids that they couldn't provide for at expense of their own..
They breed like rabbits.. and the ones that are responsible and make sure to be able to provide for their children before having them.. and that break their back trying to on top of that pay for other peoples kids.. which might be why many have to wait before they can afford a child in the first place.. will then go pretty much extinct.. and then the whole world will begin to look like a huge fucking toilet.. this time with NOBODY to save them or help them and their starving kids..
>>75783160
>Has job at McDonald's
>Decides to have 4 children she can't afford
Wow
>>75800078
You forgot, asked for the entire day off to take her kids to school..
And i wish it was a joke, but leftists actually think they have a legitimate argument for raising minimum wage arbitrarily (as if that's how it works) with this example..
>>75799783
It's not realistic to tell 60%+ of the population to not have kids. "Don't have kids" is not a solution.
You can try to force eugenics laws that only allows the wealthy 40% of the country to have kids, and you can enjoy the aftermath of attempting that.
Fucking /pol/ was mostly raised by wealthy white parents where mommy and daddy paid for everything, and they have clue how the majority of the country lives.
>>75800921
Yes it is.. it's very realistic.. 1 child per family only.. in places like africa and places that have too many kids.. so that they over time are reduced to a more stable amount of people..
or if you can't provide for your child yourself, you should not be allowed to have it. Because SOMEONE is going to have to pay for/provide for it, at the expense of their own children.. which they are already paying for.
Ugh why don't poor people just have more money?
They work 60+ hours a week and they're still poor and require government handouts because even working 60+ hours a week they can't afford to live off what mega-corporations pay them.
Why don't they just work more and stop being lazy? Why don't they just have money like me? My mommy and daddy has lots of money they gave me.
>>75800921
/pol/ is arguably the most diverse internet community around with posters of every conceivable background you fucking Melvin
>>75783160
this lady could work at a factory and make more with less bullshit rules
does mcdonalds even make enough to pay all employees 15 an hour and remain profitable?
>>75801391
>does mcdonalds even make enough to pay all employees 15 an hour and remain profitable?
They have enough money to pay them way more than that and still remain profitable.
And while we're at it it should be fucking illegal to migrate with 12 kids to some other nation and expect that nations citizens to pay for you and the 12 kids.. simply because your home nation doesn't want to..
Literal demographic invasion by hordes of people whos only major achievement is breeding like rabbits and expecting others to take care of them.
I'm so tired of seeing pictures of masses of starving african children.. STOP HAVING SO MANY YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.. if they can't figure out to only have as many kids as they can feed.. say 1 tops in case of africa, then they have to be sterilized after the first one..
I'd rather sterilize someone after their first baby, than having to deal with a lot of starving babies.. yeah the babies didn't deserve that but guess what it was the parents reckless and irresponsible decisions that are causing the kids suffering..
Couldnt the Father take the kids to school
Oh wait
>>75794613
more like 480
and i live in the state with the highest taxes
>>75783591
At what point in history could a single person raise 4 children without working extraordinarily hard?
McDonald's isn't good enough and at some point in the last 10 fucking years she should have come up with a plan to earn more than the USA minimum wage.
Do you think homesteaders on the great plains were crying because they had to go and kill a buffalo to raise all their faggot kids?
>>75783160
learn to suck penis rather than opening your legs maybe?
>>75783160
>how are we supposed to survive on $174.80?
In Mexico..
>>75788199
This is so fucking dumb. I don't know where the idea came about that all minimum wage jobs were made for children. That's enormous percentage of the workforce that you idiots presume should be filled by part-time 19-year-olds.
>>75783160
Free market, not McDonald's problem.
McDonald's isn't forcing you to work.
>>75801563
citation needed
last i read a avg franchised Mcd's is about 180k/yr profit, but is a huge risk to start, lets just say 10 employees @ 8/hr x 2000h = 160,000 but 10 @ 15/hr x 2000h =300,000
40k profit, and i can assure you very few mcdonalds operate with 10 people.
>>75794613
15 * 40 = 600
15% of 600 is 90
600 - 90 = 510
You would have $510 a week after a %15 income tax.
Right now it is typical to get paid $8 or $9 an hour for a job like this.
9 * 40 = 360
15% of 360 is 54
360 - 54 = 306
You would have $306 a week after a 15% income tax. Huge difference.
>>75802053
Minimum wage earners actually make up a very small percentage of the workforce
>>75801819
This, we've allowed people to become so complacent that they don't have a connection between living within their means anymore.. so they think they can just pop out 4 babies.. way way WAY beyond their means.. and then complain that others aren't helping them take care of them..
What all this handout for everything does, is it disconnects people from being responsible and living within their means and really disconnects people from the reality of how things actually work, since a class of people develope that simply have grown accustomed to someone else doing everything for them.. and themselves providing minimal output in exchange.. and not taking responsibility for improving their skillset or anything like this.. but simply blaming everything on someone else.
It's become so upside down, that the poorest dumbest most backwards people in the world are the ones that have the most kids, and the most successfull civilized people, have less kids cause they actually have to worry about not only being able to provide for their own kids, but also having to provide for all the other kids that everybody else dumps on them..
So ofcourse you end up with examples like this..
>hey i work minimum wage at mcdonalds.. i choose to have 4 kids what's wrong with that..
EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT.. EVERYTHING..
>>75801819
You can't go kill a buffalo today, and if you want to kill deer you need a license.
You know the saying:
If you give a man a fish, he can eat for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, then he has to get fishing license.
>>75783591
If you cant afford a child keep your legs shut or your dick in your pants. You should be improving your life so you can afford kids if you haven't reached that point you should not be allowed to have a child.
>>75783160
Have these faggots tried unionizing?
>>75783585
>That shirt
Jesus CHRIST! Cringe...
>>75784930
There's no shortage of humans. If a whole bunch of people didn't have kids it would be a good thing for future generations.
As Doug Stanhope wonderfully put it 'if you want to save the planet, don't fuck in the front hole'
>>75783160
Why did you have 4 children if you can't survive on $174?
>>75802419
McDonald's would most likely fire you.
>>75802377
What about someone who had a good paying job that could support a family, had kids, but the job was automated out by new technology, he got fired, and now no one will hire him but people who pay $7.25-$10 an hour?
>>75802321
3% earn the actual minimum wage and I'm assuming quite a large percentage just a bit more than minimum wage.
You're overestimating the amount of teens there are if you think there are enough to fill the amount of low-paid jobs there are.
>>75784888
by cumming on your circuits
>>75802419
>McDonald's Union is created.
>Workers get huge pay increase and benefit's.
>Prices on McDonald's food go up.
>People stop eating fast food due to the price hike.
>McDonald's all over the nation close costing thousands of jobs.
>mfw the workers blame everyone but themselves and their poor choices for the business they work for failing.
>>75783160
Stop having 4 children you nigger ape. My parents had two, both worked hard and we were still not rich. And you think you deserve to provide for 4 as a single momma?
>>75802395
But the point I was clearly making is that these poor bitches in Detroit could start subsistence farming in their attics or whatever.
This lazy bitch needs a whole DAY to take her kid to school. Shit, my mom or dad would take like, 10 minutes out of there morning to drop me off. Why does this bitch need a whole day?
>>75802660
Improve your skillset, also vote trump because jobs are being brought back to america that have been lost..
If your job was actually easy to automate.. let's be honest it probably didn't require much know how either.. With just a little bit of some kind of education in some other field you should be able to change profession.
Minimum wage is the lowest paying jobs.. meant really for students not for adults and especially not for adults with children.
>>75784930
You want to know what's really cruel?
Bringing children into a world where you can't support them.
>1 post by this ID
OP is a faggot
>>75799957
Partially because customers are idiots.
Also, depending on the design, it can take eons to order something compared to telling someone what you want.
>>75802552
This.
What a fuckin retard.
>>75783160
If you're a fast food worker who shows up on time, speaks English, and doesn't steal from the drawer they'll let you take almost any time off you want with no consequences. I'm guessing Juana is a shitty employee who the manager is trying to coerce into quitting.
>>75803087
What gave you that idea. ;)
>>75802968
this, and all the guy you're responding to has is "you can't tell a large group of people not to have kids" yes you can and it's beyond legitimate.. if they can't provide for them they shouldn't fucking have them.. period.
Westerners have this intrinsically build into their culture or mindset.. apparently all the wishful thinking doesn't translate to other ethnicities having this understanding.. they just splerg them out and hope some of them survive, and that someone with altruism will help raise them..
>Work in business owned by someone else
>In a building built by someone else
>Preparing food for someone else
>With produce grown by someone else
>And meat processed by someone else
>On machines developed by someone else
>I DESERVE TO GET PAID AS MUCH AS AN EMT WHO SAVES PEOPLE'S LIVES
McDonalds is intended for teenagers and people with absolutely no skill or responsibility. Maybe you shouldn't have four kids if you can't take care of them.
Why is there this idea in people's heads that the fucking morons who blew off school, got hooked on drugs when they were 16, and ignored every piece of advice they received on securing a good future deserves as much of an opportunity to succeed as people who plan ahead and don't be fucking retards with their bodies?
>>75802905
>let's be honest it probably didn't require much know how either..
I hope you remember you said this when your job is automated out.
>Improve your skillset,
So he should go back to college or vocational school? Those cost tens of thousands of dollars. Even if he spent every ounce of energy he had towards working he wouldn't have enough to support his family, let alone if he had to focus on schooling/training.
Honestly are you fucking retarded? What kind of sheltered fantasy world do you live in? You're basically as bad as "ugh why don't poor people just have money?"
>Minimum wage is the lowest paying jobs.. meant really for students not for adults and especially not for adults with children.
So what the fuck do you suggest happens to the very large portion of the population that can't get any job but those low-paying menial jobs? There is a large portion of the population who gets rejected by even places like McDonalds.
Do you suggest something edgy like "just let them die"? Good luck with the collapse of society, your fiat money won't mean anything then.
>fight for 15 protest outside mcgill this morning
>in class, talking to Venezuelan diaspora problem glasses liberal
>"you see that protest earlier?"
>"no anon, what was it about?"
>"They're the fight for 15 people, good thing they're close to the university so they can talk econ 101"
>"fuck you"
>>75783649
>his
kekeke
>>75803450
take*
I would be utterly disgusted if she is the one handling my food. What the fuck? At least put a net on your head to avoid those nasty pubes fall on my meal.
>>75784888
YOUR BIG MAC IS F-F-FINISHED INSECT. TELL ME, ARE YOU AFRAID? WHAT IS IT YOU FEAR? THE END OF YOUR TRIVIAL HUNGER?
>>75803417
>So what the fuck do you suggest happens to the very large portion of the population that can't get any job but those low-paying menial jobs? There is a large portion of the population who gets rejected by even places like McDonalds.
Are you for real.. How the hell is it not your own responsibility to improve your competence? If you can't get any job but that low paying menial job.. who's responsiblity is it?
Don't tell me that you see yourself as that fucking stupid that you can't learn any skillset that will put you above minimum wage level.. that's a copout..
>large percentage of the population
oh please..
>>75784652
>http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/
>>75784888
http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/robotmcdonalds.asp
The story is fake, tard.
>>75784964
A touch screen can't cook food.
>has 4 kids
>works at McDonald's
>suddenly pretends she cares about them
>probably needed the day off to go sell her kids for crack
>>75783160
you're not. it's called MINIMUM wage for a reason. if you're working a minimum wage job, don't have kids. simple. when you get a better job that you can support a family with, THEN you can have kids. and even if it's "not your fault", it kinda is. safe sex, abortions, adoption, all of these are better alternatives than raising your 4 kids yourself at McDonalds and then complaining about how you don't get paid enough. it's an entry level job that high schoolers and new workers take up, NOT people with families.
>>75783160
30 years ago people would have mocked this dip shit for having a teenagers job and being a single mother.
It is amazing how quickly things turn to shit.
>>75800921
Ironically, the wealthiest pop out the fewest kids
What does that tell you, mr. Muhgenics
>>75803417
>Good luck with the collapse of society, your fiat money won't mean anything then.
So you see yourself as so stupid that you can't learn a new skillset, any skillset, to put you over minimum wage level.. Which imo is a copout.. I don't believe it. And if you are really mentally retarded, i'm sure your kids will just be loving the shit out of those genetics..
You then sperg out completely and call for collapse of society.. when the real problem is you don't want to learn a skillset that puts you above MINIMUM WAGE MEANT FOR STUDENTS AND UNSKILLED LABOUR..
Just wow dude.. how much of a professional victim can you be..
>>75803670
> How the hell is it not your own responsibility to improve your competence?
He already went to college/vocational school and learned a skillset. He can't afford to go back. Even if he hypothetically did, there is a ton of people getting out of college right now with degrees in legitimate fields but no one will hire them. It's likely that he would just get out with tens of thousands of dollars of debt, and unable to get a job.
>If you can't get any job but that low paying menial job.. who's responsiblity is it?
Not everyone can have a job above those. There is not anywhere near enough good jobs to go around for the amount of people who need them. There's not even enough low-paying menial jobs to go around for everyone. This will be especially true in the future when automation/technology kills many jobs.
"Ugh why can't everyone just get a good job it's easy?"
There will be a very large (40%+) portion of the population that won't be employable at all. You can just tell these people to go die, but it won't work out. You're going to be stuck between basic income, or the collapse of society.
>Don't tell me that you see yourself as that fucking stupid that you can't learn any skillset that will put you above minimum wage level
I can't wait until your smug ass is in this position yourself.
>>75783160
Just climb a tree, nigger, and you can be branch manager.
>>75783160
>how do the other three children get to school if their old enough
>what are buses
>probably on food stamps
>>75804108
It tells me they are wealthy because they are far smarter than a single mom raising 4 kids on McDonald's pay.
>>75800921
I was raised by poor as fuck white parents. My dad worked 2 jobs and my mom worked for the first 11 years of my life, until he finally earned his bachelor's taking night classes and started making $80k. That's why my views are the way they are. I've seen what people can do when they actually love their planned children and don't just pop them out for welfare bux or because they're too dumb to use birth control.
>>75804217
No they wont. In roughly 6 to 7 weeks they would starve to death which in its self solves several problems including overpopulation. Stop feeding the poor and there will be far less poor.
>>75804543
They will kill you and cause the collapse of society first, they won't just sit there and starve.
>>75804217
>There will be a very large (40%+) portion of the population that won't be employable at all. You can just tell these people to go die, but it won't work out. You're going to be stuck between basic income, or the collapse of society.
Or.. just maybe.. don't let them have more than 1 kid per family which they probably barely can provide for.. this will reduce them gradually over time..
>40% of the population won't be employable at all
So do you want to fix that problem or do you want them to keep splerging out 3-4 babies they can't provide for?
If you are so fucking stupid that you aren't employable at all, first it's probably your own fault for not learning life skills, secondly if you're not employable at all the last fucking thing you should be doing is having many kids that is at risk of ending up in the exact same situation!
Man your arguments just keep getting dumber and dumber, you're basically saying let idiocracy win instead of.. let's do something about that..
You are extremely wrong about automation, your job has to be quite simple for it to be fully automated.. And new jobs will be created when the automated jobs go.. it's such nonsense this automation scare..
>>75804108
>only rich people have kids
>working class population goes down
>overpopulation curbed
>working class wages start going up again once labor is in high demand
Bottom line is this:
If you have time and resources to go on the internet and shit post about how bad you got it, you don't actually have it bad.
Grow up and pursue some fucking goals.
>>75802974
Except that you can order and pay from anywhere before you even enter the restaurant.
>on my way in my self-driving car
>get hungry
>instruct the nearest McD's to prepare my usual meal, the Trump's Choice ™ BigMac with Diet Coke
>car automatically reroutes through McD's
>cooking robots anticipate the GPS data from my car to prepare the meal in the right time
>roll in just as my meal is ready
Comfy as fuck tbqh.
>>75803834
It doesn't have to. Instead of having 1 person man the register, now the register mans itself. Freeing up that person to do other things.
>>75804618
No they wont. Starving people wont put up much of a fight against armed healthy well fed people. They will do what niggers do, riot, kill each other, commit crimes near where they live and never get close to anyone who has any value to society. Eventually their population will dwindle and then the remaining useful people will retake the world with the aid of automation.
>>75802053
Minimum wage jobs are about 3% of the workforce, you stupid ass.
>>75783160
Why do you need a whole day off to take your kid to school? Shouldn't she have just asked for a different shift if she really cared about supporting her family?
>>75804217
>I can't wait until your smug ass is in this position yourself.
Misery loves company eh..
>He already went to college/vocational school and learned a skillset. He can't afford to go back. Even if he hypothetically did, there is a ton of people getting out of college right now with degrees in legitimate fields but no one will hire them. It's likely that he would just get out with tens of thousands of dollars of debt, and unable to get a job.
That's because jobs and businesses are being siphoned out of the US over many decades.. And instead of sorting that out.. you expect something like fucking UBI so you can be a NEET for rest of your life, instead of simply adopting some other type of skill.. Any other skill.. that will put you above minimum wage pay grade..
Just listen to how stupid you sound.. 40% of the population will be unemployable.. such bullshit.. if by unemployable you mean people like you who refuse to change profession or have skillset for any job that will put you above minimum wage.. MINIMUM WAGE.. literally student tier jobs.. If that's the case.. then it's their own damn fault sorry..
You've got access to the fucking internet it's treasure trove of books and how to's on all kinds of shit.. yet you'd rather shitpost here and pretend that it's impossible for you to have skills beyond minimum wage level..
>>75802974
This.
I've seen tons of people struggle with those 100 flavor drink machines that some places have.
>>75805124
The kid can't take the bus? What a fucking snowflake.
>>75783160
This isn't real. No sane manager gives someone a week off for no reason unless they really want them gone.
>>75804217
>afraid of muh automation
>thinks menial jobs wouldn't be automated first
>Thinks mr. Collegegrad McHypothetical of Skillsetville will be replaced firat
>still wants dat 15 fo dem programs as if it wouldn't accelerate automation
>>75804628
>So do you want to fix that problem or do you want them to keep splerging out 3-4 babies they can't provide for?
> let idiocracy win instead of.. let's do something about that..
I already told you my solution, and my solution is an actual solution, not unrealistic retarded shit like "kill more than half the population".
You can fix the problem with basic income and anti-immigration laws.
>If you are so fucking stupid that you aren't employable at all, first it's probably your own fault for not learning life skills
Yes, just tell the massive amount of unemployable people that it's 100% all their fault and they're retarded.
>your job has to be quite simple for it to be fully automated
Well many jobs are simple. Complex jobs can be automated though too.
Truckers and trucker related workers may have their jobs automated out by driverless trucks and new technology, this could kill 5 million+ jobs alone, but it won't only effect the truckers, it will effect the towns that rely off business from truckers. Think about the diners/shops/hotels at truck stops. That's just one example.
>And new jobs will be created when the automated jobs go.
Not anywhere even close to the amount of jobs it will kill.
>>75805031
By "useful people" you mean "people with enough fiat money to outlast the storm, but who are equally useless".
>>75805289
Shes likely a shitty employee and they want her to quit so she cant claim unemployment I have done similar to several people who worked for me. If your a lazy useless shit you don't deserve unemployment. Just depends on the state and what they consider "good cause".
>>75805409
>muh basic income
Get a minimum wage job, faggot.
>>75783160
Why do you need a whole day to take your kids to school? Only takes while people a few minutes in the morning.
>>75783160
Why do you need a whole day to take your kids to school? Only takes white people a few minutes in the morning.
>>75805145
>You've got access to the fucking internet it's treasure trove of books and how to's on all kinds of shit..
Tbh Shekelstein wants you to have a piece of paper
>>75805145
>You've got access to the fucking internet it's treasure trove of books and how to's on all kinds of shit.
You forgot that they have to spend 60+ hours a week working just to scrape by. They don't have time for that.
Even if they did self-teach themselves, employers will require an actual degree and relevant work experience.
>>75805294
I'm not afraid of automation, I want it to come fast, and basic income along with it.
>>75805507
I mean people with enough intelligence to adapt get educated and work. Everyone else is useless they remind me of Africa always crying I cant feed my kids and still popping out kids they cant feed.
>>75784930
>waaaa reality sucks
And I would make a great CEO or boyfriend, but guess what.
>>75786953
It's actually simple:
Welfare is taking from rich, entitled white people and giving it back to the people they oppress.
It's modern reparations, never ending and infinite. White people can never pay off their sin, but they need to keep trying.
Accepting charity means you admit your failure. It means you're relying on the kindness and compassion of white people, meaning you are no better than a slave.
Charity is privilege + power.
That means it is racism.
Welfare FORCES white to pay for people of color, so they have no power and their privilege is being checked by the government.
Seriously, you need to get educated in inter-sectional racial issues and gender politics.
>>75805409
>I already told you my solution, and my solution is an actual solution, not unrealistic retarded shit like "kill more than half the population".
You can fix the problem with basic income and anti-immigration laws.
Nobody is talking about killing them just stop them from having more than 1 child per family and they'll be reduced to a smaller level population wise within some decades.. no killing necessary..
WHat you are suggesting is the people who had kids they can't provide for, won't acquire new skillsets etc.. That they hold the rest of the civilized world at gunpoint and say give us free stuff or we'll break down society and riot..
You just want to be a neet on UBI instead of learning new skillsets.. that puts you above minimum wage.. This is what this is all about..
I can't believe i'm actually arguing with an adult male about learning new skillsets so you don't have to work student tier jobs.. And this adult male is actually refusing to do so saying it's impossible to do..
>>75784652
>New Sexaminer
:^)
>>75805644
You could possibly be fasttracked to the exam if you can prove very quickly that you know all the stuff.
>>75805750
I felt violent feelings when reading this.
>>75784930
There's about 4 billion too many people on this planet to begin with.
We need a Rudolf von Goldenbaum badly.
>>75783261
/bread
mcdonalds will just get ordering machines up and running within a few months and fire them all, bar maybe two cooks and a manager per restaurant
>>75805694
>I'm not afraid of automation, I want it to come fast, and basic income along with it.
That little utopia could only be remotely feasable if you DON'T let retards have 4 kids each , but that's MUH EUGENICS to you (reminder that no one said no children)
>>75805795
>won't acquire new skillsets etc
CAN'T acquire new skillsets.
There simply won't be enough jobs to go around for everyone, there already isn't. What don't you understand about it?
"Fucking retards just learn something lucrative!"
Even if everyone learned what will still be lucrative, there won't be enough jobs for all of them.
>>75805919
Not even the cooks will be needed, robots with sensors will cook food at higher quality than human ones. I'd say only 3 people will be at a McDonalds, 1 manager, and 2 overviewers, to make sure nothing goes wrong with the robots.
>tfw they'll never get your order wrong ever again
>can't get anything better paying than a burger flipping job
>shits out four kids
>illegal alien
>expects sympathy
Formulaic tedium.
>>75783160
you didn't have to come here ya know
>>75805750
this is the new thing.. Instead of these assholes from backwards nations doing something about their own incompetence.. they instead try to justify it!
Pisses me off so much.. There's nobody opressing them.. and historically their talk of reparations are complete nonsense infact they owe US.. they simply are like parasites.. and they even admit it.. And in order for the host to keep allowing them to feed on it, they have to try to convince the host that it's ok to walk around with a fucking bunch of parasites.. hence the false guilt tripping etc.
>>75791253
if you raise them that way, then yeah
>>75783649
>his
waiter ill have the top kek
>>75783687
>>>/reddit/
>>75799979
I like how you assume the poor have easy access to contraceptives. Or even encouraged to use them. Here in Texas, I taught at a rough charter school that preached abstinence. I had two 13 year old single mothers in my class. Thier kids were 2 years old.
>>75806098
What are you doing right now asshole.. you keep talking about when when when.. let's face it you're a total fucking NEET now that just wants UBI and you use "muh automation of everything to come in future" as excuse for this because if you lobby for UBI you'd be set for life like in your old job, this time without even having to fucking work WOAH.. its excuse to not do a thing right now... Only problem buddy.. SOMEBODY is going to work jobs way beyond minimum wage to finance your fucking shit.. your "solution" is batshit fucking crazy.. very selfish and incredibly short sighted..
If you ever installed something like UBI it wouldn't take long before you had a venezuela style collapse..
>>75805409
Unless we get full automation in which every single possible task that can be done by a human being is done by an intelligent robot, automation will just destroy jobs in a sector and create jobs in others.
The invention of the excavator machine probably left thousands of shovel workers unemployed. The invention of the telephone left telegraph workers unemployed. Now Uber is leaving many taxi drivers in a hazardous position.
Innovation always destroys an economic sector, and springs up jobs in others. It also always increases output of goods and services, meaning lower prices and higher real wages for all in an economy without a state that meddles with your purchasing power. Not smart or talented enough to be a programmer nowadays? Maybe you should be producing the desks that the programmers use, or clean the rooms these programmers use, or clean the rooms that the desk-building machines use, or... you get the idea.
>>75783591
There are alot of people in this world who should not be allowed to reproduce.
>>75805995
Democrats are already pushing a eugenics agenda and most are to foolish to know it.
>>75800921
Your assuming most of /pol/ is wealthy. Most of us here are just shit posters, and the few that do take all this seriously are either NEETs, collecting autism bucks, unemployed, or have a huge chip on their shoulder. Most capable members of the right are too busy being normies to post here
>>75794132
I find a hair in my food. Took it to the counter to get my money back. Not upset. Told the manager girl, I understand it happens im sure nobody put it there on purpose.
Bitch replies with "you know, we don't have any girls in the kitchen right now"
What, a fucking retard
>>75806574
Hey I'm comfy right now, I'm not complaining about my own situation. I plan on just living as homeless if I have to, before even attempting to live off a low-paying menial job, because I won't even be able to afford to live independently in a 1-room apartment with that pay.
I'm not going to college or vocational school, because it's very likely that I will just end up with tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and no one will hire me.
Tell me what the fuck you expect me to do?
>>75806545
If they don't have access to contraceptives then you have to sterilize them after the first kid.. then they can fuck all night and day.. it's fine..
I definately can't put my trust in that they can or will use contraceptives.. and no it's not cruel to sterilize, what is cruel is all those fucking starving kids that comes because they can't practice..
a) abstinence in the face of their situation or atleast non vaginal intercourse
b) responsibility to provide for the kids they get.. or don't get them
c) failure to use contraceptives properly or not have them available..
even c) is fucking "gimmiedats" behaviour.. it's not everyone elses responsibility to give africa and middle east fucking contraceptives.. It's their own damn responsibility to have only the kids they can provide for and if they can't provide for them.. they should not have them..
You can't remove self accountability and decision making from a group of people and say they don't have contraceptives therefore they HAVE TO fuck and HAVE TO have 4x(or more) as many kids as they can possibly feed..
No i blame them. They know very well that they have problem with starvation.. and decades later.. they STILL have the same amount of fucking kids, they don't care all that changed is the population doubled in africa for instance as they instantly consumed the added gibsmedats.. they still have massive starvation problem.
>>75806969
There are lots of opportunities, if you know when to take them. If not you can make them :^)
>>75806658
>Maybe you should be producing the desks that the programmers use,
That's already done by machines/computers.
> or clean the rooms these programmers use, or clean the rooms that the desk-building machines use
I would be fine working as a janitor if I got paid enough to be able to afford to live, but they wouldn't pay me enough to even afford the most modest of lifestyle, and they probably wouldn't hire me in the first place because there's already a ton of people competing for the janitor job.
>>75806880
Fight or die. You either struggle through get an education and succeed or simply roll over and die. That's all their is those who give up lack the ability to succeed and therefor deserve their inevitable fate.
>>75783160
>day off
>to take a child to school
wtfamireading.png
>>75783160
>I deserve the income needed to support 4 kids...
>...doing a job that a fucking 15 year old could do
>black kids going to school is such a rare occasion that their mothers have to take a day off work from McDonald's to see it
>>75807400
Good one Anon.
>>75783591
Everyone also has the right to smear shit on themselves. That doesn't mean it's the government's responsibility to wipe it off.
>Juana Mejia
But on your best mexican accent and say
>Mejia juana
Out loud.
>Being so utterly incompetent as a human being that you can be replaced by a robot
Can you imagine anything more terrifying than realizing just how utterly expendable you are, and that you wasted your entire life despite decades worth of ample warning?
>>75783261
For her it's either that or cleaning lady.
>Fast food worker being paid as much as an EMT
Church, food pantry, friends and family. If not padding that money for you outright, your family should at least be able to drive your kids to school for you.
You have four kids. You can't tell me you don't fucking know people.
>>75783649
criminally underrated kek
>>75807782
No we should pay them a living wage for one good reason. If they do fast food will go under and all the fat ass neets will be forced to do actual labor to live and they wont have fast food to make them fat. A net gain for society. kek.
>>75784964
Why is that old man wearing a nigger chain?
>>75808332
Not all niggers are black but all blacks are niggers.
>>75803834
I lost my fucking shit jesus
>>75787170
I fucking love these ones, why aren't they all of them
>>75783160
Maybe now she'll learn not to have four fucking kids she can't take care of.
>>75787875
MEGAPALI
>>75802974
>Implying I can't work the ordering machine better than the nigger behind the counter
If it takes eons to order, the person ordering deserves it.
>>75783160
Right?
When that $15/hr kicks in, she'll be living on the dole for closer to $60k/year.
Way better than working for it.
PLUS, she has 4 kids so she is adding to the unemployed soon to be black majority.
I can't wait to see how the FED acts when there's no taxable income to hedge rates on...
>>75783160
>having 4 children without acquiring certifications/degrees/licenses/training
>complaining that you work at mcdonalds for fuckall and your children starve
E C K S D D D
You live in a pro-choice state. You chose to have 4 kids, dumb nigra bitch.
>>75808708
>$15/hr
>close to $60,000/yr
Nigger, that is some minimum wage math right there.
