>Asked to explain the political ascendance of Donald J. Trump, he said simply, “I can’t.”
>“He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,” he said in prerecorded remarks.
/pol/ you just got labeled "the lowest common denominator" by the smartest person alive. If there has even been a BTFO moment, it's this right here. Do you think decent people shitpost? Because that's what goes on here. And a bunch of Trump shilling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/stephen-hawking-calls-donald-trump-a-demagogue.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
He says "appeals to the lowest common denominator", but all I'm hearing is "broad appeal."
>>75774396
>"I can't [explain it]"
>“He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”
wow, that was hard
>>75774484
Do you know what a demagogue is? You're getting suckered to support Trump, and that's exactly his intention.
Hotwheels should stick to physics instead of spouting bullshit concerning areas he knows jack shit about
Being a researcher doesn't make you qualified to talk about everything.
>>75774396
Wow, I guess I am a #CruzMissile now
>>75774689
>he acts like he knows better than Stephen Hawking
There is no help for such a level of stupid. You're beyond fucking retarded (in words you will understand)
>>75774689
What makes him less qualified than say, you?
>>75774604
>a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
Every politician is a demagogue. Obama was a demagogue. Sanders is a demagogue. Clinton is one, too.
Do you think all of them are up there using rational arguments? No, you have to be a "demagogue" to capture large voting blocks that think only emotionally. There's no choice.
>>75774928
A pair of legs.
>>75774824
If he's so intelligent then why can't he find a way to get up from his chair? Checkmate atheists
>>75774928
He has no exposure to politics or economics in the slightest
>>75774396
lol thinking he is the smartest person alive, far from it
>>75774928
What makes him qualified though? He has been tied to a chair 20+ legs and basically isolated from outside world.
>>75774396
>I can't
Sounds like Hawking got blown the fuck out
>>75774396
>believing a literal retard
jokes on you, faggot
>>75775046
>He has no exposure to politics or economics in the slightest
Kek how could you possibly know that?
>>75775090
The dude is more sociable and outgoing than 90% of this website. Do you even know where you are?
>>75774931
That's not a demagogue.
>>75775015
wew lad
Just goes to show you that those in academia have their heads too far up their own asses.
Even from a neutral standpoint, if a smart guy like Stephen Hawking took the time to compare the records of the two main candidates (Hillary and Donald) he'd see that Hillary has a far shadier record than anything Donald has ever done.
Hillary destroyed Libya, Syria, helped create ISIS, had a private email server to skirt around FOI requests, took bribes from Goldman Sachs, laughed about successfully defending a child rapist, intimidated Bill's rape victims, the list goes on and on...
He needs to fuck off back to his specialty field and stay out of American politics.
>>75775302
>sociable and outgoing
So? Chad is more socialable and outgoing than Hawking, guess we should ask him what he thinks about Trump.
>Asked to explain the political opinion of Stephen Hawking, Anon said simply, “I can’t.”
>“He is a cripple who seems to appeal to only the lowest reddit fuccbois,” he said in prerecorded shitposts.
>>75774396
If he was smart enough, he'd learn how to walk
>>75775539
You said he's isolated from the world which we both know isn't true.
>“He is a [ ] who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,” he said in prerecorded remarks.
kek, fill in the blank to make this about hawking instead
>le wheelchair-bound facebook's idea of smart person meme man
>>75774396
omg he's so0o0o0o smart! why doesn't HE run for president?
>>75774396
>Hawking said
No he didn't.
>>75775779
>run
Anon...
>>75774689
This. Being a math/physics genius doesn't automatically validate your political views. Only a fucking moron would think otherwise.
Of course, CNN and other shill news will tout this complete non-story because normalfags don't know any better.
>>75775386
yes it is you fucking retard
>with all of his IQ points he still didn't figure out that literally every election is rigged as fuck
>with all of his IQ points he still didn't figure out Donald Trump is just a simple way of keeping the people calm so that they can still live in the illusion that voting may improve the world one day instead of actually taking action
>he still didn't figure out Trump and Hillary are allies and that Trump isn't just an actor
Anyone with an IQ of 120 or higher should know all of this is one big fucking play, a play millions of people think is reality. It's fucking pathetic how you're all being played while simultaneously thinking you're superior to the people who believe in the other side of the lie.
>>75774396
>appeal to the lowest common denominator
Woooow. So like every other presidential candidate under the fucking sun.
>>75775889
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demagogue
hurrr wrong
>>75774396
>Asked to explain the political ascendance of Donald J. Trump, he said simply, “I can’t.”
>He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator
>prerecorded remarks.
0/10
It's good for shitposting though.
>>75775703
But he is. Do you really think that he gets all his news from any other source that is not MSM?
hawking a lil bitch nigga
>>75774928
I don't see the news organizations reporting on anon's opinion, you fucking leaf
>>75776265
Do you really think he doesn't get all his news from /pol/?
>>75774396
>>Asked to explain the political ascendance of Donald J. Trump, he said simply, “I can’t.”
OK so, he can;t explain it...
>>“He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,” he said in prerecorded remarks.
...and then he immediately explains it.
>>75776407
I'd imagine browsing /pol/ would be painful for him just because by the time he will type a reply to any post thread will get pruned. :^)
>>75774928
I eat vegetables, he is one.
>super smart guy says some guy in politics in another country appeals to retards
>literally can't walk
>secret way of saying he's a Trump supporter
>people can't see this masterful ploy that allows him to express support without being targeted by the media
>>75774396
>Smartest man alive
>Can't even talk
>Can't even walk
Yea maybe the smartest newborn child
>>75774396
Childless atheist who does not care about the future of Britain
>>75774396
because comon dominator are just dominating the world, may be because they are more advanced than the guy in a wheelchair.
>>75775386
It is literally the word for word definition of demagogue.
>relies on handouts to survive
Of course he's a Berniecuck.
ITT
>dumb /pol/ tries to wraps their heads around intellectual rhetoric
>dumb /pol/ shows how low their capacity for higher cognitive reasoning is
>everyone else is eating popcorn
Trumps a chump, and you're a sucker to fall for such an obvious demagogue. Get rekt
>>75774396
>robot is asked a question and gives a pre-programmed response
>/pol/ BTFO
kek, okay bud
>it's wrong for a politician in campaign to try and appeal to the largest base possible
pretty dumb for a smart guy
People thinking this guy could relate to any normal American. His life isn't normal how could he possibly relate to normal people.
He's literally this guy but to all of America.
>>75774396
Reminder that Hawking got BTFO by a jewish plumber and was reduced to the level of reddit meme scientist.
>he's a demagogue
This is just name-calling for smug grownups.
>>75776839
Just because a leader appeals to desires and prejudices doesn't make for an irrational argument. Also those are not necessarily false claims.
>>75774396
Correct the record pls go
This is the 100th thread on this
Hawking is a smart physicist but ultimately his opinion on politics shouldn't be held to such s height as it would on physics.
>guy who knows shit about politics
>talks about politics
what if trump said "black holes aren't real"? would that mean NASA BTFO for real this time? no!
>>75774396
Since Stephen Hawking is apparently too busy wasting government money on shit nobody cares about to pay even passing attention to his own country's politics, I will clarify, because it isn't complicated at all.
We've had thirty years of Globalist Neoconservative rule in this country and everyone is fucking tired of it. Our politics are inundiated in disingenuous Koch and Soros owned criminals who don't believe anything they say and are only in politics at all because they're addicted to power like drug addicts to crack.
We're sick and tired of being told everything is our fault when we never had a choice between good candidates to begin with. We're angry and resentful at a political establishment that holds us in contempt. When someone comes along who offers to destroy that establishment, however faint a hope he offers, we jump on board. Ron Paul, even Rand, etc.
Then Trump comes along. He's not a "faint" hope, he's a blazing superstar in a sea of candles, and he's laying waste to traitors and sleazebags across the country already.
You're goddamn right he has support, if you can't tell why people like Donald Trump it is almost certainly because you've never talked to the average American.
>>75776880
>mexican intellectuals
>>75776667
>Childless
Except he's not childless, Anon
>>75777267
what if he said let's put all illegals into a black hole ?
>>75774396
>the lowest common denominator
This usually means rational thinking has been cancelled. Trump supporters only care about MAGA, 'muh gunz' and the like. No reasoning can ever be successful, especially not from a genius, since he's so far away from what they can comprehend.
>>75777267
Trump is dumb and privileged. You probably just like him because you wish you were him. That's pretty cucked, anon.
Stephen Hawking can't even walk. He has nothing else to do but sit around and absorb as much knowledge as humanly possible. You should think about that
Why should anyone care what celebrities think?
Why would anyone care what a welfare queen thinks?
Reminder that Hawking has contributed exactly 0 to his country and lives on govt. paychecks.
>>75774824
Hawkings cant use computers, he's extremely retarded on several fields.
Just because he's extremely smart on a field doesn't means he's just as good on everything else.
>>75777603
Argument [ ]
Not an Argument [X]
A fucking crippled retarded that can't move without a chair an might as well never ever did anything on his own in his whole life.
>>75777750
>why should anyone care what celebrities think?
Trump is a reality TV star before anything remotely resembling anything presidential. People care because people are fucking idiots - that's the short version
"Thinking is difficult. That's why most people judge"
>>75777229
appeal to desire and appeal to prejudice are variations of a logical fallacy, appeal to emottion
they are the definition of irrational arguments
>>75774396
Stephen Hawking is a moron.
>>75777603
>He has nothing else to do but sit around and absorb as much knowledge as humanly possible
and yet he doesn't, he spends his time gabbing with the ny times about stuff the ny times wants to talk about
that doesn't trouble you at all?
>>75778003
>Trump is a reality TV star
Trump is the front runner and GOP nominee for command of the NATO arsenal.
Steven Hawking is fed by the British govt. to write peer reviews.
>>75774928
Stop saying reasonable things on /pol/ ffs
>>75774928
This. Jesus christ /pol/ is so fucking stupid it hurts.
I really can't wait to witness the massive butthurt on this board in november.
>>75774396
The real Hawking is actually a complete vegetable. He's driven around remotely and the shadow government controls his voicebox. The Stephen Hawking you think you know isn't real.
>he's just one of them physics types *spits chew* he dun no nuffin bout no politics and the like!
He's a Cambridge educated Physics PhD. He is in the top 1% of the top 1% of critical thinkers in the world. If you think just because he isn't talking about physics that he is back on /pol/'s level you are way too far gone at this point.
>>75778311
>Jesus christ /pol/ is so fucking stupid it hurts.
Yet here you are. :^)
>>75778268
There's nothing reasonable in believing that celebrities are infallible. This is some Greek worship type shit we're dealing with here.
>>75778311
I can recognize your posts.
>>75774396
>Thinking A disabled vegetable is the smartest man in the world
Very predictable Amerilards
>>75777229
so basically the definition of demagogue hinges on whether or not you agree with the speaker?
>>75778417
>He's a Cambridge educated Physics PhD. He is in the top 1% of the top 1% of critical thinkers in the world.
So what?
>>75777603
>Trump is dumb
Trust me, you're much dumber than Trump is. I can admit Hawking is probably way more intelligent than I am, but you're too far up your own ass to admit Trump is a mastermind that puts little fuccbois like you to shame.
>>75778417
he's blaming a politician in campaign for appealing to the largest amount of people possible
>>75774824
>muh appeal to authority
>this guys smart with one thing therefore he can't hold wrong opinions and we should all follow him blindly
is basically what you're saying
>>75774396
>Prerecorded remarks
I can make Microsoft Sam say whatever the fuck I want, too.
>>75778311
You only make me happy to see you whine.
>>75778577
It depends on whether the desires and prejudices are factual.
>>75778624
>Hawking is probably way more intelligent than I am
I'd bet not.
>>75774396
What if hawkings is actually retarded and we've been rused?
>>75778417
Well, he admits that he doesn't know the answer to a simple question that literally any of us could answer, so it's pretty open-shut in my book.
>>75774396
For being such a "smart guy" he sure doesn't know how to spell. It is Demigod, not demagogue.
>>75778699
kek
>>75775529
Realizing that hillary is shit does not entail you supporting trump. Maybe hes like me, and supports neither of them.
Voting between trump and hillary is like voting between two types of cancer. Hillary is terminal heart cancer that will kill you quickly, Trump is a lesser type of cancer, maybe liver cancer, but its still cancer nonetheless. Why would you vote to have cancer anon?
>>75778624
>Trump is a mastermind
>>75778417
Actually experts are bad managers because they lack a breadth of knowledge due to their depth of knowledge in their field.
So why does his Ph.D. in physics make him anymore qualified than me to speak about public policy and politics?
>>75775386
it's a special kind of cuck that can't use a dictionary
>politicians succeed by the number of votes you get
>politician succeeds
>hurr because he just appeals to the retards
hawking is a sore loser
>>75774396
Everyone who is self-aware knows that Trump and his policies are retarded and that he was never meant to be the nominee.
people who are not subhumans support him either to watch the world burn, because it's funny, because it will accelerate the collapse or in the best case scenario he will succeed by building a wall that keeps out the shitskins and deports the rest.
>we should worship celebrities guise
>>75778835
i wouldnt be surprised if your being non ironic
He can understand abstract concepts beyond most normal people
Cool
A 5 year old could still wheel him into the deep end of a pool and he couldn't muster so much as a fart to stop it
Strength is still Strength
And the strong will always rule
>>75778624
>says I'm up my own ass
>he literally worships a human being
>>75778680
This is gonna go over your head because you're an idiot, but see >>75778417
>>75775779
Because hes smart. That's why. In fact I think anyone running for president should not be elected president. Who in the right mind wants that position? Clearly no one with good intentions. We as a nation should strive to elect a qualified person who has no interest in becoming president. Only then will we see progress. As long as you keep voting the candidates the media tells you to (trump included), stagnation will be norm.
>>75774396
The cripple relies on others for his very existence, of cource he is a leftist cuckold.
S A G E
>>75778908
>a political outsider with a good chance of becoming the president of the United States isn't a mastermind
That's a cool image macro, Hanz.
>>75779042
Isn't that the best part of 4chan, not only the high chance of what you just wrote but the high chance of people responding to it as if it were the only possibility.
Hawking is an autist who doesn't live in the real world btw. I can guarantee that he thinks that niggers and Muslims are human just like white people and that racism is extremely irrational. He lives in a protected bubble never leaving his lab and interacting with people who praise him and cater to him every day.
>"When an argument holds that a conclusion is likely to be true precisely because the one who holds or is presenting it lacks authority, it is a fallacious appeal to the common man.[13] A common example of the fallacy is appealing to an authority in one subject to pontificate on another - for example citing Albert Einstein as an authority on religion when his expertise was in physics.[11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
>>75779094
>he literally worships a human being
Talking about yourself in third person?
We don't worship a politician.
A politician is a leader, a representative.
A person you think is superior than you and as such should dictate your vote - influencing you is basically worship.
You are the one that's worshiping a celebrity. Greek worship type shit.
>>75779171
I remember being 12.
>>75779049
>And the strong will always rule
Strong is he who knows how to manipulate and use the system and the population to his favor.
Hitler, Stalin, Trump, etc.
>>75779205
>2016
>still believing that oldschool democracy is how politics works
>pretending like corruption and money in politics isn't a thing
Normies only care about him because
>muuuuh weelchair
>muuuuh autism
Embarassing as fuck
>>75774396
>>75774484
>he said
no he didnt
>>75774396
>I have no explanation.
>Here's my explanation.
Chair crapping cripple is chair crapping cripple.
>>75774396
sounds to me like super robot physics boy got stumped
>>75778417
In fairness, hard science & engineering types are notorious for making asses of themselves when they speak outside their fields. In my experience, physicists tend to think they know more about the social sciences than they do (which, while less rigorous than the hard sciences, still aren't something you can wade into with absolutely no training.) Engineers tend to think they know more about economics and politics, and programmers tend to think they know everything about everything.
Stephen Hawking's not like that. He's just all-around smart. I'm just generally bitching. You can't even imagine how many ATROCIOUS papers I've read that were co-authored by physicists, geneticists or mathematicians and clearly not peer-reviewed by a single competent linguist or archaeologist, yet somehow still managed to get published in major journals.
Leftist politician wins popular vote
>The people have spoken! Democracy is a wonderful thing!
Right politician wins popular vote
>He appeals to the lowest common denominator. His supporters are being taken for fools!
More leftist ass pain. I love it.
Yes, and? It's the same as all the champagne socialist rich whites who live in gated neighborhoods and demand that other communities take in more refugees.
I somehow doubt that Steven Hawking lives next to a refugee center.
In fact, this is actually a perfect analogy for the left. Hawking, a man who has to have everything given to him in order to function, a man who totally relies on others, being severely out of touch with what normal human beings need and want.
>>75779333
>A person you think is superior than you and as such should dictate your vote - influencing you is basically worship.
Case and point: you're voting trump.
God you're dumb
>>75778651
That's not what he's implying by labeling him a demagogue. He's saying that the driving force in his campaign is his ability to be well-liked, not because he's competent.
>>75777249
Or on physics. Let's not pretend he did not get BTFO on claiming there is no information loss at event horizons.
>>75774396
>smartest person alive
>don't even know how to walk
yeah try again
>>75774396
We've been labeled things by fruits before, now we have vegetables labeling us. Not much has changed.
>>75778508
>he's a celebrity therefore he doesn't know anything about politics
>>75779595
>Linguists and archaeologists matter.
Yeah, no.
>>75774396
Disabled Stephen can't get out of his little motorized chair. Sad!
>>75774396
Who cares about being smack talked by an autobot though?
>>75779634
You can't separate the function of a political representative and a literal nobody and your worship of said nobody used to influence you?
>>75778325
Thanks Rusty, we can always get the truth from you.
>>75779454
Cool strawman. Also,
>pretending Trump hasn't pointed these things out himself
>>75779715
>Can't tie his own shoes.
>Genius
So what I get from this is
>Lowest common denominators (bernouts/welfarefags) loath Trump
>Trump appeals to them by intellects opinions
>Intellects criticism Trump based on their feelings
>Trump does not care for feelings
>Middle class no longer exists
>Trump wants to return the middle class to glory as America back bone
>Women don't know what to think
>Entitled kids think they are right, regardless of evidence
>Trump just wants Entitled kids and future clueless women children to have a future worth living in
Yet we are told endlessly by the machine to HATE TRUMPS LOVE for freedom. Why is that?
He and the silent majority only want whats right.
>>75774396
just another indoctrinated Marxist
>>75779761
>he's a celebrity therefore he doesn't know anything about politics
LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
>>75774396
>an expert of one specific scientific field acting like he has any authority to talk about things he's not actually an expert at
kekkeroo, it's always the same. Nothing he has done qualifies him any more to talk about politics than the average joe.
>>75779680
That's true. Trump is also the textbook definition of a demagogue:
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
Trump and every single other mainstream politician out there btw
>>75779824
Fucking rubber deer. What will they think of next?
>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>LET'S GO ASK SKRILLEX WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR
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>>75779967
Are they a thing where you are?
>>75774396
"Smartest person alive" but still not smart enough to use body.
In all fairness he's not really human so I couldn't expect him to understand humans
Almost everything that makes us human he can't experience, he's trapped in his body so the abstract is all he has
Kudos to him for admitting their are things beyond him, I guess he has some humility, for whatever he is
>>75779761
Has he ever produce evidence that he actually does know even rudimentary things about politics? No.
>>75779967
rare flag?
>>75779791
I'm not talking about who deserves to receive more federal funding or which degrees are more marketable. I'm talking about whose evaluation matters more when you're reviewing a paper for publication in an academic journal devoted to linguistics or archaeology.
>>75774824
Stop worshiping iconoclasts like blind idiots. You're projecting your own absurd opinion that certain people's ideas are infallible into Trump supporters, meanwhile you're worshipping this guy in the exact same way? Really?
>>75780107
Shhhhh, we bombed the shit out of them not so far back. You know, to cover up the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
>>75780008
Not really, no.
>>75780143
Enjoy teaching idiots like you your major for the rest of your life!
Whoa, looks like Trump just got #Rekt amirite? I am feeling the Bern now
>>75774931
There is no logic behind the pro-life movement, it's 100% feelings and Jesus. Therefore any candidate supporting this is a demagogue
>>75780283
#frenchfried
>>75780304
>I don't understand human biology or where babies come from.
>>75779171
I too read Douglas Adams
>>75774928
He's about as qualifies as anyone else. He's Stephen Hawking, a man always in need of research funds with little exposure to the world outside of his intellectual bubble. Like anyone, he has hubris.
>>75779898
The notable difference being instead of talking about his plans for change and how he seeks to implement them, he just becomes upset that people are accusing him of not having a clue and directs everyone's attention to the man wearing his MAGA hat.
It's all perspective. A wealthy academic that's never worked a real job in his life obviously doesn't know the struggles of being a regular working class American. He goes about his day receiving constant admiration for his achievements and constant sympathy for his inability to maintain a healthy balance of drool inside and outside of his mouth so of course he couldn't possibly understand why anyone would want to build a wall. Plus, who cares, Juan and Ahmed aren't coming for his job or neighborhood anytime soon.
>>75780070
Have you? Why am I listening to you?
Stop posting and come back with some qualifications and credentials please.
>>75774396
> Smartest person alive
How do you even measure that, bro? Talk about subjectivity, you'd have to be pretty dumb to believe that one.
Any of you idiots REALLY believe this is the still the same Steven Hawking from the 70s and 80s? News flash: he died a long time ago and was replaced with a meat puppet. Just a propaganda tool.
>>75780304
Pro-life is more of an economy thing than it is about feelings.
When your natality falls, your country falls.
>>75780445
Except Trump has an incredibly detailed plan on his website that has more detail put into it than anyone else's.
>>75780445
He rightfully tells biased reporters who hold his ideas to an uncommon level of scrutiny to go fuck themselves. If you want to know his actual policies go read Crippled America, if you're at a rally you want the gist of what he's going to do and some hype.
>>75774396
Im A #HawkingHero Now
>>75774396
Steven Halking is a theoretical astrophysicist, one of the more abstract STEM fields, and is physically comparable a brain in a jar. He has absolutely zero understanding how real humans behave and how society works.
Plus, his "Hawking Paradox" was debunked so he can get fucked for all I care.
>>75779634
>Case and point
It's ok. Mistakes like these are a diamond dozen.
>>75774396
what else to expect from uneducated people? i hope that he wins and you get another george bush and 9/11, americans never learn so they deserve to get fucked
>>75778417
Aren't Mensa esque geniuses notorious for rashness and pride? He could just be saying this to mimic Trump's style and gain more current fame from notoriety.
>>75778896
No, that is incorrect. Hillary Clinton is a literal criminal. Donald Trump has done nothing wrong and holds comparatively moderate positions.
>>75780263
Most archaeologists in America work in the private sector. (approx 80%)
I'm also not an archaeologist, I'm a translator, though a lot of my work is in academic translation. Are you lashing out because I insulted your field?
>>75779869
Lol what flag is this
>>75774396
>implying steven hawking follows politics
>looking to any scientist for political wisdom/knowledge
He'd an autistic mathematician, why the fuck are people looking to him for political wisdom when he's very deliberately NOT studied it at all for his entire life and has instead devoted his entire existence to maths and science?
>>75778896
Your philosophical argument falls flat when you realize that in this case, you HAVE to have one or the other, so why not choose the lesser? If you do not choose then a mob of peasants will choose for you.
>>75780781
I can smell the hurt butt wafting out of this post
>all these shills
>>75780781
Rusev, please
>>75780841
EU flag designed for a EU colony.
>>75780712
>He has absolutely zero understanding how real humans behave and how society works
You done goofed. Consequences will never be the same.
>>75780830
You seem rather confused. Do you know where you are? Can you smell toast?
>>75780515
As soon as Hawking does so, too. I didn't say I am more qualified, just that Hawking isn't more qualified than I am. Two people who know jack shit about a topic are equally qualified and unqualified to talk about it. Don't try to spin the question. Why should we listen to him, if he knows as much about politics as the rest of us?
>>75774396
I don't ask plumbers for culinary advice, I don't ask an electrician for problems with my truck, so why should anyone give a shit about some cripple's view on politics?
>he said
No he didn't.
Wow this entire thread is nothing but shills trying to say "oh look how stupid crippled people are" and Trump btfo - FOR REAL. Get off my board.
>>75774396
Poool btfo lolz lul
Sm1 sad dat nationalists are stupid nazisssss lel kekk also niggaz r superior xdxd ralle make u dink huh loool pls kill mehhhh #clintoris #die Confederacy of Independent system skummmmm xd xd
>>75777042
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10654762/The-man-who-proved-Stephen-Hawking-wrong.html
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>>75780936
i will laugh as you get 9/11 again and forever keep doing the same mistakes over and over your democracy is as a joke as our democracy 2 parties only and rigged to always support same lobbies))
>>75780969
Just by being on this shit board at this moment you probably are more qualified to talk politics than Hawking has ever been in his life.
Don't let people who worship celebrities make you think that regular people are inferior to Skrillex and Rihanna.
>>75774559
sure
Scientists are historically no good at politics Isaac Newton was a Member of Parliament He was an autist who achieved nothing while in office. Herbert Hoover was an engineer, goofed up the Depression, Margaret Thatcher was a chemist, destroyed national industry and we have Merkel, also a chemist who is cucking the shit out of Germany.
>>75774396
HEY SOME VEGETABLE IN A WHEEL CHAIR WHO CAN'T EVEN WIPE HIS OWN ASS, DOESN'T SUPPORT TRUMP.
Who cares?
>>75781084
I think star trek was a Marxist plot to convince nerds that globalism is both good and inevitable
>>75774396
This entire thread is nothing but shills saying "omg look how stupid crippled people are" and "Trump btfo" for real. Either summer has hit us hard, or the shills are giving it their all. Either way, get the fuck off my board.
>hypothetical physicist
>crippled in chair
>SMARTEST MAN ALIVE
NO.
>>75781378
>hypothetical physicist
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>>75781338
What thread are you talking about?
>>75778311
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism
>>75774559
>demagogue
>all i hear is demi god
>>75781378
>>hypothetical physicist
saviors of america like you will make america great keep going champion
>>75774928
What makes him qualified in the first place? He's the one being presented with an appeal to authority.
It's like Noam Chomsky. Why the fuck do liberals think someone who studies linguistics has some sort of expert opinion on politics and international affairs?
>>75780599
Immigration is actually better for the economy than fertility. Think about it, encourage your citizens to have more babies with the blind hope that they will turn out as lawyers and engineers and not a criminal or welcome in qualified immigrants where you can ensure that they have the right skills at the border.
>>75780789
Your attempt to discredit him for saying something you don't like is far-reaching, embarrassing, and just plain dumb. Maybe if you try to generalize him further, or make another attempt to lump him in with a crowd that makes him look more flawed, you wont feel as insecure disagreeing with an actually intelligent opinion.
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>>75781378
hawking is right. trump does appeal to the lowest common denominator. unfortunately that's like most of my country's people. then again i forget where i am.
here, you can be an actor and become president. that means that you dont really need to have experience in running a country to run mine.
>>75781586
Funnily enough, it's increasingly seeming like Noam Chomsky might not even have an expert opinion on linguistics.
>>75774396
Implying It was even Stephen who wrote that and not just Lib-bot 2000
In all seriousness his voice could have been tampered with, I mean he can't exactly stand up and tell people that's not what he's saying.
>>75780969
>I'm not more qualified, I'm just more qualified to say that Stephen Hawking isn't more qualified than I am
>>75781692
>Immigration is actually better for the economy than fertility
Koln 2015.
Britain 2000s-2010s
>lawyers
>engineers
Are you economically blind?
>>75781910
Because that's uncontrolled immigration. If it's controlled then it's good. I'd prefer a syrian chemical engineer to arrive in the country than for a chav to plop out another retard baby
>>75781586
>Noam Chomsky is an American linguist, philosopher, cognitive scientist, historian, logician, social critic, and political activist.
Nice one.
>>75774824
Did you even read what he said dipshit?
>>75781910
immigration is different from war refugees and economic migrants, for example the us research teams are mainly semitic people, shitskins and asians who get imported by headhunters
the country who can import the most brilliant people will get a lot of economical and cultural advantages, of course it's different from boat niggers coming because usa and eu killed ghadaffi but you're probably to stupid to understand the difference))
>>75774396
>“He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,”
to be fair, this is exactly what obama was
trump supporters are just too stupid to see it cause he appeals to them emotionally
>>75774396
Does he even see the irony in his own statement? He looks like a fucking retard, and yet he's calling others stupid. Why doesn't he go live on Mars then?
>I can't
This faggot probably can't even see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch
>>75775090
>He has been tied to a chair 20+ legs
>that Freudian slip
>>75778003
Like magic nigger is presidential. Just because someone looks good in a suit doesn't mean anything. Hawking is an expert in theoretical physics. Even his statements about chemistry should be taken with the grain of salt. His opinion on politics is an opinion of some guy who is good at physics. In plain English it doesn't mean dick. It's equivalent to any guy on the street opinion. If he doesn't realize it, he is not smart. Trump BTFO a bunch of political professionals. It should tell you something about this man.
DRUMPF BTFO
A SCIENTIST KNOWS MORE ABOUT POLITICS THAN ANYONE ELSE
>>75774604
>do you know what a demagogue is?
Yes, but I'm 100% sure that you don't.
>>75779430
Yeah, and I remember being a retard. Guess that never changed for you did it?
>>75779476
I think he meant he has no explanation for the stupidity the world as a whole is demonstrating by supporting trump. And hes right. Its like humans never fucking learn. Every 4 years in the USA politics suddenly matter and people think that voting will make a difference. Every fucking 4 years. And no president has ever made a difference in a long time, nor will they, because the people in charge are really the people behind the curtains.
I agree with this anon
>>75775914
>Donald Trump is just a simple way of keeping the people calm so that they can still live in the illusion that voting may improve the world one day instead of actually taking action
Couldn't have put it better myself dutchbro
>>75774396
kek
I think a sole look at that "man" is enough to understand that something does't go well
>>75777333
Trips of truth.
>>75776026
This. This is the type of shit you say when you have nothing intelligent to say.
>>75774396
when you're that smart you start to believe you know everything. every one of these high profile physicists seems to be a snooty know-it-all.
>>75777333
>Then Trump comes along. He's not a "faint" hope, he's a blazing superstar in a sea of candles
Jesus you guys are as delusional as Obongo voters 8 years ago when he was promising "change" and "hope". And the most common reaction deluded people have is denial. This is because they don't realize how delusional they are.
But yeah, but all means, keep voting, keep lining up to choose the next candidate who will surely change things for the better this time! Good goyim, make sure you never lose that faith you have for the government and keep on voting son!
>>75777333
>his own country's politics
>>75774396
>lowest common denominator
>majority
Yup. Sounds about right.
>>75786467
Never in a million years would I vote for Trump, but this is a ridiculous argument.
One, Trump is popular precisely BECAUSE people have lost all faith in the government. Two, Trump actually is qualitatively different from every nominee that's come before him. There's never been a candidate with any real shot at the presidency who was this willing to disregard conventional political wisdom and alienate the members of his own party before. Certainly not one who got away with it.
And encouraging people not to vote is laughable. Sure, don't vote, if you want politicians to ignore you even more openly than they already are.
>>75774396
>smartest man alive
>thinking theoretical physics is hard
>buying the t. physics jew meme
>>75777504
POO
Alpha male envy
>>75787413
>Trump is popular precisely BECAUSE people have lost all faith in the government.
No hes not. And no people have not lost faith. If they did, they would not be voting, waiting for politicians to fix all of their problems. And trump is popular purely because of 'muh wall' and because he is not PC.
>There's never been a candidate with any real shot at the presidency who was this willing to disregard conventional political wisdom and alienate the members of his own party before. Certainly not one who got away with it.
Yes, and he will not be getting away with it either. You talk as if he was already president. he is not and will never be.
>And encouraging people not to vote is laughable. Sure, don't vote, if you want politicians to ignore you even more openly than they already are.
No, the point of not voting is to show the government that we will no longer take their bs and play their little game every 4 years. The LAST thing a government wants is for people to truly lose faith in their authority, because civil war and unrest follows shortly after. This is why you see goverment encouraging people to vote and participate in the political system through virtually every communication outlet available, and this is why the media is bombarded with propaganda to get you to keep on voting.
If we as a country, on election day, decide not to vote at all, then things will start to change.
>>75786467
I don't see the point in getting so asshurt about it. If Trump is a failure, then whites will be beyond disaffected. Trump represents hope in the system. He represents a peaceful solution to the general anxiety of white America. If he wins and fails to follow through, that could dramatically change the zeitgeist; possibly from peaceful to something else.
>implying an autistic British science guy would understand American nationalism
>>75774396
Caring about the political views of a wheelchair bound autist whose field of expertise is astro physics.
>>75774396
> the smartest person alive
> non-speaking vegetable
> fantasies about black holes without proofs
Cuck, I'm dissapointed
>>75774396
>snobby british intellectual calls trump supporters stupid
how do they not realize this only energizes his base and causes the smart ones to attempt to recruit
>>75774396
Hawking lives in a bubble like most intellectuals. He is as stumped as the pundits who were calling for Trump's failure last summer and all through the year up to now.
When you get taken care of every day and have a good job it is easy to say "La de da! The world is beautiful! Let us give everyone a free plot of land and at least 15 dollars an hour."
When you actually have to struggle and watch your job get outsourced and all your neighbors jobs get outsourced, you start looking for combative people to lead your cause.
Such a person we have found (at least on the surface) in Trump.
>>75778311
Charles Darwin thought niggers were an inferior species of human.
Charles Murray co-discoverer of DNA thinks niggers are less mentally evolved.
Not thinking niggers are inferior humans makes you fucking stupid.
See how this works?
>>75789806
James Watson*
>>75788563
You'd better get on with that revolution then. If you want anyone to take your don't vote stance seriously.
those of us who live in the real world, not the "I'm so bad ass just don't ask me what I have done about anything because the answer is nothing!," world have to think about feeding people around us. We actually like people most of the time. That's probably something you don't understand either.
If all you have ever done is not vote and smoked pot or done other drugs, then Ah ha ha ha ha go fuck yourself and leave us adults alone.
>waaaah i'm so smart but i don't understand why people like a guy i don't like it must be because everyone else is shit waaaaah
Someone push this ironside cunt down some stairs.
>>75781737
>Waaa I got called out and people are arguing with me, better insult their intelligence rather than use reason
And I don't even give a shit that I'm strawmanning
>>75779499
checked and kek'd
>>75774396
oh look its wheel chair boy, you know the crippeled faggot that sounds like a speak and spell. you know that's why hes an atheist pile of shit, because hes so fucking MAD being in that chair, i noticed MAD faggots almost always resort to "THERE'S NO GOD". fucking pathetic idiots. oh and hes not smart, at all. maybe the guy programming his speak and spell is but not his retarded ass. get mad mudshitbrits your scientist is crap.
>>75775914
You're so smart and redpilled. Pleased let us know how you're using this knowledge to change the world while the rest of are obviously wasting our time
>>75781737
>unfortunately that's like most of my country's people
wew, imagine a president that appeals to the people :^)
>>75774396
the little weasel just sits and shits in his little comfy chair and encounters no risk of rape, robbery nor murder.
But he doesn't mind if all other Americans are at risk, right?
>Build the fucking wall
quantum physicists literally make shit up as they go
its an entirely unfalsifiable field. might as well be practicing astrology
>>75790906
>its an entirely unfalsifiable field
:^)
>>75788563
You're an idiot.
If we, as a country on election day decided not to vote at all, then somebody would simply seize power. Either one of the politicians who are already established in the gov't -- you know, those politicians you love so much -- or, perhaps more likely, somebody in the military, some well-connected and well-positioned colonel or general.
They might govern reasonably competently, or they might be utterly corrupt and incompetent, but either way it's damn sure they wouldn't feel at all accountable to you and wouldn't give a damn about listening to your particular agenda, whatever it is. Their first priority would be to PREVENT a civil war & ensuing breakdown of the civil order. Actually, their absolute first priority would be to secure their own power, quite correctly noting that they were preventing somebody much worse from moving in. And it's likely that most of the country, no matter how disgusted with the gov't they are right now, would support them, because very few people would welcome an actual civil war.
Enjoy your military dictatorship.
This isn't a fucking conspiracy theory, understand. This is the most likely outcome -- it's played out in Eastern Europe, in Asia, in Latin America and Africa -- when the democratic process breaks down. Grow the fuck up.
>Asked to explain the political ascendance of Donald J. Trump, he said simply, “I can’t.”
>he said
No, he didn't.
>>75774396
> iam learned so my opinion holds a lot of weight
>i just can't explain why you should do something but you should
Man its becoming more and more apparent why revolutions went down.
>>75774396
Hawking is right, but too insulated from the average American to understand the reasons for the popularity of Trump. Worsening economic conditions for the average whiteperson and deterioration of the racial hierarchy are the main reasons for his appeal.
How hard is this for people to understand? The whole social contract in America was that even if your life is shit, you're at least above the blacks or hispanics. This is no longer the case because there are increasingly many superfluous people who are simply not needed for capitalism's continued function, combined with the abolition of outright legal discrimination and affirmative action. They feel more under siege by culture wars since their economic conditions are worsening.
These superfluous people will be too dumb to work any new jobs created by technological developments, this is why the AI revolution is different.
>>75790997
its unsubstantiated theories supported by unsubstantiated theories supported by unsubstantiated theories
the whole house of cards is ripe to fall down with just one new discovery, and these ivory tower academics eat crow every time it happens
>>75774928
Cyborgs and vegetables don't have legal rights.
>>75774396
Hawking is a theoretical physicist, no matter how "smart", him having an opinion does not make it right or more interesting than someone with actual political culture.
Trump is a populist that is appealing to the masses, undoubtedly, and this is only scaring the people who forgot that there needs to be a demos (a people) for a demo-cracia (democracy) to work.
