>be orchid collector
>have over 500 specimens in my private conservatory, as well as hundreds more tropical species
>all of my friends and associates always applaud my encyclopedic knowledge of plants and say how smart I am
>they all assume I'm an eco-freak
>giving girlfriend's friends tour of my greenhouse
>"Wow, you must be really sad about all the stuff that's happening to the Earth."
>"What do you mean?"
>"Like global warming and shit and all that stuff."
>explain that I don't really believe in all that hype, my studies of botany and ecology have led me to believe that the Earth is a constantly changing ecosystem, just because life dies out in one place doesn't mean it isn't reappearing somewhere else
>they start laughing and claiming that I'm "really ignorant"
>I ask them if they have any knowledge of ecology other than all the pot they smoke (massive stoners)
>"Alright man chill. We gotta get going. I was going to ask you if I could grow some bud in this place but you're like a Bible-thumper haha"
I fucking hate liberals so much.
>tl;dr
Why do people blindly believe in global warming and other associated scares without having seen ANY evidence or ANY climate models come true, and then bash Christians for believing the "words someone else told them?"
How hypocritical can one be?
Good goy
bump?
>>75690425
I'm also an orchid collector. Never thought I'd see a channer also collecting them. Where did you graduate from?
>>75692660
Purdue University, not in botany though. I actually majored in physics, orchids and botany has just always been a hobby of mine since I was a kid. I turned my parents' sunroom into an orchid nursery with about 100 specimens by the time I was 17, haha.
I didn't get laid a lot in high school, needless to say.
>>75692842
>>I didn't get laid a lot in high school, needless to say.
didn't see that one coming
>>75692842
You're cool. That hobby is probably therapeutic as hell. Is botany friendly to beginners?
>>75690425
What is a good orchid specie for the inexperienced cultivater?
Should have said because of the increase in CO2 over the past decade the planet is significantly greener than it was before, so you're happy about that. Because that's true, and they can't argue against that the planet having more robust plant life is a bad thing.
>>75692842
Oh man, very nice. Same thing happened to me in high school, and I built a small greenhouse to house my collection. Studying plant breeding and genetics now.
>>75693365
Not OP, but also a orchid grower. Try phalaenopsis (really common, found in Walmart), cymbidium, cattleya, or oncidium. Once you master those you can move onto the rarer genera.
I'd love to see some pics of your collection.
>>75693365
BTW most orchids easily available to the public are complex hybrids; species are rarer and usually harder to care for
>>75693125
Very much so! Don't be intimidated by all the terminology and names, it comes with time. Trust me, when I first started, I had no idea the difference between a Paphiopedilum, Phalaenopsis, or Brassolaeliocattleya. It was all Latin to me. But as you spend hands-on time with the plants, it all falls in place.
If you can garden, you can take care of orchids. They are actually very resilient plants, found on nearly every continent in every biome. There are tricky species, yes, but there are others that require little maintenance.
And of course, orchids aren't the only plants you may have an interest in. It's really just about paying attention to your plants and their needs. People often forget they're alive. They can't bark to tell you they want something like a dog, so you have to notice little things about them. The leaves getting darker might mean the plant isn't getting enough light; too bright green, maybe too much. Silvery roots? Water more often. Mushy roots? Let it drain and aerate for a while.
It really isn't hard. Nobody is born with a green thumb, you get one through a lot of experience.
And it's very satisfying to grow and cultivate these beautiful treasures of the Earth. Over time, it will almost seem like they're your friends, especially if you're an introvert like me.
Gardening is pretty awesome, desu. I'm a huge faggot and even I garden.
>>75690425
I wonder which site has more made up stories: 4chan or Tumblr
>>75690425
Do you have Pink Lady's Slipper orchids in your fancy pants collection?
I should probably delete this girl who talks just like this
>>75693614
This. Don't be discouraged if your first few plants die.
>>75693614
Do you like bonsai trees? I had one that I bought last 6 months, and I've been planning on getting another.
Are orchids expensive? What are they like?
>>75693365
Phalaenopsis is THE go-to orchid for beginners. Paphiopedilum is also very easy to care for, but requires a bit more attention.
You can get Phals. at places like Wal-Mart, but beware. After the flowers drop, you'll have to repot them because they keep them in horrible, wet, hot, and bright conditions. They'll often have root rot, crown rot, and sunburn if you pick one up towards the end of the season. All of these problems can be fixed if you have the drive, but its better to get them towards the beginning of summer and get them on a proper watering and lighting cycle.
A friend of mine who collects orchids specializes in "rescuing" Phals. from places like Home Depot, Wal-Mart, etc. He has about 60 Phals. that are all perfectly healthy and thriving since he's gotten ahold of them.
post sexy orchids
>>75693863
So right now is a good time to get a Phal?
>>75693843
I have a few bonsai trees, yes. I love them, though I'm not as experienced with them as I am orchids (I only got my first one about 3 years ago).
Orchids, in general, are not expensive. There once was a time when it was a hobby only for the super-rich, like landed nobility in England, because massive expeditions had to be launched to the jungles to procure rare specimens. Nowadays, this isn't the case, and many commercially available orchids are easily raised in captivity and cloned.
You should be able to get most very pretty orchids for about $20-$40 a plant, sometimes cheaper. A more rare specimen (usually a species, not a hybrid) will set you back $100 or $200. Very rare orchids go for much more, in the thousands.
And then there are some that are just priceless. The critically endangered Ghost Orchid (notoriously hard to grow, and which I am currently trying to grow right now), takes years of very meticulous care to raise to flowering size. Most die in the first year. Most of the rest in the years after. But for those that raise it to maturity, it is something they will never want to part with.
>>75693863
Phalaenopsis and most other orchids are epiphytes, meaning they grow on trees in their native habitat. When reporting you'll want to use a mix with sterilized bark as the main component.
Paphiopedilums are terrestrial but can also do well in bark. Some paphs (and related phragmipedium) are grown in sphagnum moss.
I've always thought that people who did this shit were serial killers, but perhaps that's just the media portrayal.
This is the best thread on /pol/ right now.
Shall I post plants on my wishlist?
>>75690425
>show power level to stoners
>dont like results
#justopthings
>>75694169
Yes.
>pic relate: Cochleanthes amazonica, one of my favorites
>>75694117
Are you able to pay for your hobby by like selling them and stuff or what?
>>75690425
Have you read Laura's diary, OP?
>>75694288
That's beautiful op
gardening is hella fun. i got over my divorce with petunias. no homo
>>75690425
>collect 500 flower vaginas
>get laughed at
sounds about right
>>75694169
By all means, I love seeing the tastes of other orchid collectors.
I'm particularly fond of Paphs. and Blcs., but recently I've been trying to get into Neofinetias. They just seem too weeb for me.
>>75694288
>tfw live in second floor apartment so don't have a garden
>>75694382
Oh I'm not a collector or anything. These are just plants I'd like to get at some stage...if I ever manage to afford a house.
>>75690425
Blindly? Almost all research out there shows we are having a negative impact on the planet.
No were not causing some day after tomorrow BS but the ozone layer didn't punch a hole in itself, ice caps don't shrink as fast as they are under normal circumstances, the rain forests of the world aren't cutting themselves down, etc.
You are right in one aspect, the Earth is an ever changing ecosystem and life and death are basically two sides of the same coin as far as nature is concerned.
But to say humanities actions haven't had a substantial negative impact on the planet, and that we aren't accelerating climate change is absurd.
>>75694452
You can grow a Fern a Bonsai or even an Orchid in doors if you get a light for it, or if you have a porch you can put them during the day.
>>75694313
No, I usually just pick up an orchid or two every month or so. I suppose in the long run it adds up, but it doesn't seem like it does when you only spend $20-60 a month on them. I mean that's less than I pay for gas a month. Granted, I'm sure the cost of fertilizer and stuff has added up over the years, as well as the big up-front cost of the greenhouse I had constructed, but I never really sell my plants.
Usually when I make a division I'll give that plant to another orchid collector to raise, only occasionally charging a moderate fee if it's a relatively expensive plant ($100+)
>>75694373
I'm not OP lol
Just another orchid grower
>Maxillaria grandiflora
>>75690425
How the hell there are orchid growers on /pol/?
I thought that this hobby is only for botanical garden administrating flower'n'cat ladies.
PS. I keep bees.
Saving the Pollinator race.
>>75694531
I get really shitty light unfortunately. Maybe two hours a day at most of direct sunlight.
>>75690425
How do I grow poppy flowers? Which part of the US is most hospitable to these plants? Thanks.
>>75694169
It's the beast thread because plebbitors don't care about anything if it's not filled with memes.
>>75694452
Hey, you don't need a garden to grow one of these things. Some of the easier orchids like brassolaeliocattleyas, miltoniopsis, and phalaenopsis can be grown in the house.
>>75694655
I love bees. I used to sit and watch them for hours at the botanical gardens.
>>75694460
Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like we don't make a difference. We absolutely do. Deforestation is, I believe, our biggest impact. As well as the depletion of soil in shitskin countries where they don't understand crop rotation.
That said, a lot of it is overhyped. The media said 20 years ago Miami would be underwater by now, and then every decade climate scientists change their minds in order to have a constant looming threat, a new prophecy, whenever the last one failed.
In that way, libs are like the old Millennials, who would constantly believe whatever hocus-pocus preacher told them Jesus was coming. And every single time he was wrong, they would still believe him.
We have a big impact on the planet, but the Earth is a massive ecosystem, much larger than people give it credit for. It will be fine with or without us in the long run, and climate scientists have just as much to gain by fearmongering as any other lobbyist.
>>75694382
Ever tried a vanda? Similar shape except some are freaking huge.
>>75690425
post pictures of the orchids you fag
>>75690425
George Carlin answered this argument years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
You're right, the planet will be just fine, life will go on. It's just us that's fucked.
Oh, you think you're one of the privileged few that's going to get to live in the SafetyDomes™ once the surface gets too inhabitable? Guess again, nonbreeding cucked consumer numale.
>>75694655
I've always wanted to pick up beekeeping. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time in the day.
Between my reading, work, practicing guitar (classical), gardening, and exercising, I only have like one or two spare hours in the day, and I feel like beekeeping requires a lot more than that.
>>75694790
I'll definitely look in to it. I've written down a bunch of things already mention so far
>>75694381
*500 flower vaginas and at least 1,000 flower penises because orchids usually have 2 pollinia
>>75690425
>Christian
cuck
>>75694460
Blame China. Theyre responsible for more than a quarter of Earths total greenhouse gases. Americans drinking their own toilet water isnt going to change a fucking thing.
>>75695033
>digitalis
Got someone to poison?
>>75694460
By far the greatest contributer of green house gasses is water vapor. Water vapor is like 98% of the green house gasses and is 99.9% naturally made
>>75695033
Yes, ausbro. Once you start you'll love it. One plant usually becomes a small collection. It's one of the least "degenerate" hobbies. You can even grown your own fruits and vegetables (not sure about Australian climates so don't know what you can grow, but there definitely are many that will thrive).
Personally I like cactus, their flowers always look so cool.
>>75694929
No, it won't happen m8, its all bullshit, predictions made with gross estimates that never materialize because the real world doesn't just work with gross estimates. You can't model the environment on a computer, it has been proved many times already but leftists keep disregarding basic logic, all this people do is produce results for politicians use
Listen, ultimately the environmental problem is a money scam. Be it by funneling money to the UN to make a climate-saving-ray, or by taxing corporations cause 'muh ecology', its just a fucking scam.
Whether is true or false is pointless at this moment, all that matters is that the public believes its true so it can be used to justify stealing from public arks.
>thinks he knows ecology
>doesn't into climate change
>>75695343
They aren't all this retarded in Argentina, are they?
>>75690425
Then call the police the next time they have a smoke out
Goddamn quit whining about shit and destroy your enemies.
>>75695454
But is true, just because your cities are a pollution hell-hole it doesn't mean that it is happening
Great thread. Love orchids as well.
Never thought so many on pol would have this interest desu
>>75690425
Individual merit is to be derided if it doesn't conform to the collective. Fuck libs OP, continue honing your knowledge and growing your collection
>>75690425
>I fucking hate liberals so much.
They are a social cancer - not even sure there is a historical precedent for their level of mental corrosion.
My mom collects orchids. Nowhere near as much as you, of course.
Good hobby anon
>>75690425
Op do you believe in china? Did you see it? No? It's a hoax. Propaganda from the zionist jews ruling over the world giving a plausible reason why everything is getting outsourced. Yes china doesn't exist even when everybody talks about it like it does. Prove me wrong faggot.
I don't want to be a dick or nothing, but why would anyone other than old people or specialists grow orchids? Do you sell them?
I used to grow a little bit of weed because its fun to get high, then I learned to appriciate plants and started to grow basil, rosemary etc for my sandwhiches and food, this year im trying tomatoes and carrots. All those things a practical, saving money and eating more healthy.
Only reason I would grow flowers, is finding some rare flowers that really gives off a strong scent because it would be awesome to live in a house that smells really flowerly, but most flowers dont smell so much.
So why orchids? Also, as much as I like weed, I completly despise hippies/potheads/numales and even though there are conflicting interests as I enjoy weed, I rather have it banned than having these pissy homos smoking it, or claiming "bro mary jane makes me drive better its nuthin wrong smoking and driving high maaan"
>>75690425
meanwhile op
>>75695149
Nah I'm just a sucker for hanging flowers
>>75690425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJDgVlv55Uw
>You made them look like one of those SCIENCE BITCHES
>>75695735
Which fucking game?
Not derailing anything.
>>75695454
It seems like we are because I somewhat agree with him. Remember "global cooling"? Remember "CFCs are eating away the ozone layer"?
Many environmentalist panics were driven by industry for various purposes.
Just saying "but muh consensus" doesn't cut it, there was consensus back then too.
>>75694811
>>75694953
Actually, bees require very little maintenance, maybe once a week.
There are two peaks when it requires the most maintenance: Early April and later September (when you expand bee nests and prepare them for wintering).
Third middle peak is June, when bees are swarming (pic related Buckfast bee swarm on linden or lime-tree).
20+ bee families in a village ~70km (45mi) away from my home in a city and around 15 bee families in a city (in the outskirts).
>caring about the environment makes you left wing
Where does this meme come from?
>>75690425
Ey OP, how do I get a green thumb?
>>75695735
Not OP, but I grow orchids just because they're beautiful. Being able to grow orchids (which require more attention than the average houseplant) means you'll have no problem growing more "practical" flora.
Not to mention some orchids (such as Cattleya loddigesii and Angraecum sesquipedale) have really intense, penetrating fragrance. Fills up the room.
>>75695963
I dont know, reverse search it. My guess is Uncharted.
>>75695656
Newton Flaming laser sword.
>>75695996
Isn't beekeeping expensive?
>>75695735
Oh also, some rare orchids fetch a rather hefty price (a few thousand), so if you can propagate one you can potentially make a nice profit.
>>75695656
>>75696124
My bad, Got mistaken, Occam's Razor.
Pol must be filled with manlet pussies. Because I shove red pills down everyone's throat and they willingly take it and beg for more.
>6'3 250 lb, 100% pure Aryan btw
>>75695975
Don't worry bro, we are right
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
>Lorenz discovered the effect when he observed that runs of his weather model with initial condition data that was rounded in a seemingly inconsequential manner would fail to reproduce the results of runs with the unrounded initial condition data. A very small change in initial conditions had created a significantly different outcome.
What are some other autist tier hobbies? Coin collecting ive always wanted to get into
This is the nicest thread I've ever seen on /pol/, fucking hell.
> tfw I realize I've been posting on a Cambodian orchid collector board
>>75690425
orchids look like pussies
>>75690425
>The Orchid Collector
Good name for a serial killer novel.
>Own a huge fucking greenhouse
>Some friends come over and politely ask of me to share the wealth
>I freak the fuck out
>Am surprised when they no longer dig me because I'm hogging the pipe
Stop making shit up. "Orchid collector" -- yeah fucking right. And stop being selfish. Bud belongs to the people.
>>75695975
there was a global campaign to stop using CFCs, and it worked you nigger
>>75696141
No it's actually extremely profitable. People lease your populations for their farms so that their crops are pollinated, all the while they produce honey that you sell.
what the fuck is this thread. why are there so many flower faggots here. what the fuck is going on.
>>75696278
Flag collecting here on /pol/. Ant watching. If you've got an anthill in your backyard, You can basically play yourself a god game.
>>75692933
That's why it was needless to say.
>>75696141
No, not at all.
But by God does the honey sell and the queen eggs too. You can sell good queen eggs for around sometimes 50-250 dollars each.
>>75690425
>people act suprised when someone trusts science despite not doing the testing themselves
>simutaniously using science to prove whatever fits their agenda in another thread
cool story bro
>>75690425
I have zero interest in botany as a hobby but for some reason I find this really cool
>mfw i lost my carnivorous plant collection when I came to japan because I said yes when customs asked if I had plants.
The rules stated that I could bring the plants in if they were bare root. Customs agents didn't even know their own customs laws. It was only 8 plants, but it still sucks.
Ever since, I've always said no when they ask. When I go back to the states, I'm getting more. It's such a great and relaxing hobby. They are as beautiful to me as orchids are to OP.
>>75696450
Gardening is an Aryan art.
>>75696450
Gardening and botanics is actually a male hobby.
Pussified male hobby, but male regardless.
>>75690425
>I was going to ask you if I could grow some bud in this place
That shit makes me blood boil. They're allowed to experience a horticultural treasure trove and all they can think about is getting high. God fucking damn, I hate stoners.
>>75695278
I have this cactus that I'm pretty much sure is older than me. It's previous home was a relative's place. It was literally growing out of a stone gate. I have no fucking clue how. I took it back home and it's still thriving today. It flowers annually. It's that time of the year and it's sprouting these yellow flowers.
>>75694460
>global warming and climate change are the same thing
Good job, you've muddied the waters by conflating the two
>>75696248
Throwing around pretentious philosophic buzzwords. Why would you do that?
Btw proving chinas existence takes more assumptions then climate phenomenas since climate or the physics/chemistry/systematic causes can be meassured.
Nice to see some fellow gardeners.
>>75696450
>2016
>not being a flowerfag
>>75692842
>a lot
still more than me
>>75690425
It's a shame that most people have forgotten that the first conservationists were conservatives, and that it was the Republicans who made all of the major efforts to conserve American ecology.
Your hobby is a commendable one.
>>75696613
>Pussified male hobby, but male regardless.
Shut up cunt. My polish grandpa carried 50kg potatosacks in each hand when he was 80 years old and still made time for his garden despite his health issues.
Botanics itself is a science for the evolved minds, go be a nigger somewhere else.
>>75696567
What plants did you have?
Far right natsoc here. I'm getting into gardening too, not for the dude lmao drugs. Really want to have a good vegetable farm/garden.
And yes OP, I hate liberals just as much.
>>75696727
We need to assume Marco Polo went nowhere when he traveled to Asia, We also need to assume that the Great wall of "Nonexistence" Separates Sea and land. We then need to assume Japan went nowhere. We then need to assume Mao never existed.
>>75690425
Ah, jeez.
While the environment can change, and does, frequently, the recent increase in global temperature starting at around the dawn of the industrial revolution can only really be attributed to the rise of fossil fuel usage.
Over the centuries, carbon in the atmosphere has become trapped underground - plants extract carbon from the atmosphere to respire, and that carbon has to go somewhere. When the plants die, they trap the carbon either in the ground or the carbon is otherwise released back into the atmosphere by way of decomposition or being eaten. The carbon cycle is no myth, though it is somewhat lopsided in one direction.
When we started to burn fossil fuels, the carbon trapped in those fuels was released. Hence, this caused a sharp surge in global temperature due to the greenhouse effect.
Now, you're not wrong, OP; carbon levels and global heat fluctuate wildly, and it cannot be totally attributed to our recent use of fossil fuels. But over the past 200 years, fossil fuel use has increased massively, and with its use has also increased global temperature. Certainly, the vast majority of climate research scientists believe that our use of fossil fuels has caused global warming.
Even if you aren't convinced by global warming, it is indisputable that our sources of fossil fuels are running out. Alternative energy will be vital to ensuring the future success of the human race. The Fischer-Tropsch process can convert plentiful coal into crude oil, but the process is very dirty and will only delay the problem. Nuclear power seems to be a viable option for the next few decades, even centuries, but eventually even that will run out. There is only one resource in the solar system that will last for a billion years, and that is energy derived from the sun or internal processes of the Earth. It is unlimited, and non-polluting. While processes to synthesize fossil fuels will no doubt be found, these processes will require energy.
Help me out gardeners
>Which vegetables to grow, then freeze:
>Which vegatbles to dry out, break and put in spice jar
My sallad turned into mush last year and I want to grow enough to eat during winter
>>75690425
>>"Like global warming and shit and all that stuff."
>>explain that I don't really believe in all that hype, my studies of botany and ecology have led me to believe that the Earth is a constantly changing ecosystem, just because life dies out in one place doesn't mean it isn't reappearing somewhere else
This makes no sense.
Unless you're some kind of freak who just hates humanity and the world as it exists and you're edgelording about how you don't care what happens to the world maaan because you got your flowers.
If you acknowledge the Earth is a changing ecosystem you must know about the previous extinction events and that any critical change in the stability of the ecosystem will produce catastrophic causality chains.
>just because life dies out in one place doesn't mean it isn't reappearing somewhere else
Hippie level shit. The life you're talking about is yours, your family's and your kids future.
Even if global warming never reaches extinction level event heights, just the small offset that exists now is changing growing patterns and seasons, increasing desertification, this in turn impacts people, primarily in the third world, who are then incentivized to migrate.
Hell, even California has people moving around due to drought killing off farming, or ending the water supply to small business, or small towns not getting a fair share.
The cascading effects are biting us in the ass even now and it hasn't even begun.
>>75690425
You ever disrespect me in my home again and I'll crack your fucking skull open pothead
^
Should've been your response. Oh and your gf has some real winners as friends
>>75696141
I don't really count money, but I do have expenditures - beehives, supers, honey extractors (depends where you live).
However, the most important thing is knowledge. It's priceless. For a beginner, you can make a lot of mistakes - your bees can die of digestive tract diseases, mite epidemic, foulbrood diseases, die during the winter due to late summer swarmings (practically, halved hive -
weak family = poor insulation because bees "ball up" during winter). Or just get rekt by hornets.
But the most important thing is to know when you need expand the nest (add additional corpuses) or shrink it (because they will just eat wax away).
>>75697182
Maybe Kale but im not sure, Im still very new to Kale gardening. I think Carrots would work well in a freezer though.
>>75696625
>yellow flowers
Like this?
this thread makes me want to keep bees, now
>>75690425
/pol/ - Orchids
>>75690425
I work as a plant vendor at home depot and fyi we throw away orchids for most imperfections. Sometimes just because the vase is broken and the plant is fine.
>>75690425
Girlfriend must be a degenerate for hanging with degenerates.
>>75697598
>>75697507
Strange, because every time I go to Home Depot I see orchids with root rot, crown rot, sunburn, mite infestation, etc., and yet you keep those. Probably because those are hard to notice for normies I guess.
Also, fuck you.
>>75697641
>>75697706
>>75697182
Depends on how much land you have, look into canning and making frames for greens because for one person to last the winter it requires a lot of food.
Beans can be a good bulk crop to dry but at that point you are doing it for the sake of doing it because of how cheap they are to just buy 50 pound sacks of for nickles to the pound.
>Mfw I live in country Western Australia, the best place for wildflowers in the world
Be jealous everybody
>>75690425
Now we know why polfags have no friend
>>75690425
>Why do people blindly believe in global warming
Because people cant accept that the earth its self is a living organism.
>>75696613
How is being able to grow life that can produce food that you can use to survive pussified? Not only that, but you are growing beautiful examples of life as well, like sculptures that live.
>>75696954
Nothing too special. Drosera Marston Dragon, an unknown dionea variant, two rescue saracenia from Lowe's and three rescue nepenthes. Still was hoping they could mature so I could find out what they were.
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>>75697751
>>75696727
>Btw proving chinas existence takes more assumptions then climate phenomenas
What assumptions? There are literally millions of photographs of the place and I could book a flight there any time I want, I dont have to assume shit
>>75697507
>orchids
>from home Depot
Kek, like anyone gives a crap. Fancy title for 'the Mexican who stares blankly at me when I explain the seedlings are all dead or near death'
>>75697463
Everybody knows the best discussions are completely unrelated to the board's actual topic. /v/ gets the best threads about the ocean.
>>75697643
Well we usually have to do it to get room for other stuff but different stores do it different ways.
Don't blame me. I love plants and I'm studying horticulture but I've got to follow orders. We can't give them away or discount because HD has a guarantee on plants so people could bring them back claiming it died and the want a full refund.
>>75697598
>>75697641
>>75697706
>>75697751
LOL. This was also the first thing that popped into my mind.
>>75690425
We have an orchid man in my hometown, do you live in so cal? I might have met you.
>>75690425
Top fucking kek OP something similar happened to me only I keep Reptiles and Invertebrates. Funny thing is it was my buddies friend who was at my place because my buddy brought did not even like the faggot.
I had no idea there were so many amateur botanists on /pol/
>>75690425
>I was going to ask you if I could grow some bud in this place but you're like a Bible-thumper haha"
Shit that never happened.
>>75697460
Is that a snow in summer plant?
>>75698033
That's a pretty good description actually. Sometimes they ask me questions and I can't tell if they will understand the answer.
>>75690425
That's great anon, I'm glad you have a hobby, a passion.
I mean that too, it's good to see someone have something they love.
>>75690425
>>explain that I don't really believe in all that hype, my studies of botany and ecology have led me to believe that the Earth is a constantly changing ecosystem, just because life dies out in one place doesn't mean it isn't reappearing somewhere else
I don't think you'll be very comforted by this fact when it is your life/species that dies out while some new species of tapeworm evolves in Africa.
You're not ignorant, you're stupid.
>>75697213
Cali is a fucking desert, man. if you want to pull the "changing environment will make it unlivable" card then I'll just say cali wasn't meant to sustain the population you see there now in the first place.
And nobody talks about the positive benefits. The planet has significantly green'd because of the increase in CO2. Plants grow bigger and healthier thanks to it. If our CO2 was still at pre-industrial levels theres no doubt that there would be more of a food shortage than there is now. The warming is also very beneficial to Canada. We have massive amounts of open, fertile land where food could be grown year round if the summer season lasted longer and we had milder winters. Literally everyone in commiefornia could be uprooted and placed in Canada with tons and tons of room to spare. Some people believe that we're staving off a natural movement towards a small ice age, which is FAR more detrimental to the earths population in it's current state than warmer weather is.
Honestly global warmings positive effects outweigh the negative.
>>75698203
yes
This thread was so unexpected and it is instantly one of my favorite I've seen on /pol/. I developed a good amount of wealth in my younger years and began to really spend time growing orchids myself and it is such a treat to see the fruits of your labor take on such beautiful and elegant forms. Also farm my own veggies and fruit, and I'm starting to build an apiary. Keep posting plants. Great thread.
>>75696028
No kidding. The NSDAP was easily the greenest party in Europe prior to the actual Greens and was probably more environmentally aware in 1936 than the Greens are in 2016.
>>75697182
Grow berries and make jam out of them.
Billberries, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries - mash them, mix them with sugar and freeze it.
The end product is not stupid gelatin-based artificial marmellade from supermarket but a pure natural joy.
If you want pickled vegetables - cucumbers and tomatoes. Don't freeze it though.
>>75692660
>>75692842
>>75693125
Can't tell if trolling.
1/9
>>75697460
2/9
>>75698028
You book a flight their, Mikko, you're never coming back.
>>75696454
Especially with a magnifying glass. And the sun.
I know a plant loving hippy fuck named Cagney. Which one of you tree hugging faggots is him?
>>75698570
3/9
>>75698340
Hysteria at it's finest.
Co2 is logarithmic in how it affects temperature. A literal doubling of CO2 as it stands will at most provide another 1 degree of warming. 1 degree of warming isn't going to end civilization at all, and you're the stupid one who think it will.
Going to 800ppm of CO2 within the next 100 years, all caused by us, is a big stretch btw. especially since we're getting more and more into renewable sources of energy.
>>75698640
4/9
>>75690425
https://youtu.be/jW8UlrtcEac
>>75698590
ebin xDD
>>75698698
5/9
>select all images with flowers kek
Agave are so beautiful. It took 6 years before I got my first blossom. I have even raised some varieties that aren't sold by collecting seeds from the California mountains. They look like something form another planet.
>>75698786
6/9
>>75692842
Boiler up, faggot
>>75698840
7/9
>>75698880
8/9
>read Dune for the first time last week
>get a major hardon for plants and enviornments
>sign up for a botany course and an ecology course yesterday at the community college
>see this thread today
Everything is pointing towards getting into this shit, could it be a sign?
THE HIGHEST FUNCTION OF ECOLOGY IS UNDERSTANDING CONSEQUENCES
>>75698940
9/9
>>75698787
That is pretty cool. Don't know much about agave, but I love good tequila and agave nectar. I've been wanting to start a small succulent collection, but I'm running out of room in my greenhouse.
>>75694117
>>75694117
You seem like a huge fucking nerd.
>>75698389
>The warming is also very beneficial to Canada. We have massive amounts of open, fertile land where food could be grown year round
No, it couldn't. Because the soil isn't the same as in current fertile lands.
You will also get massive amounts of methane release when the tundra in Canada melts. These are not positive changes.
>Literally everyone in commiefornia could be uprooted and placed in Canada with tons and tons of room to spare.
Thawing tundra is a mudhole in the making. There's tens of thousands of years of biological waste ready to percolate. It's not going to be livable land in hundreds if not thousands of years.
It's like you never had basic ecology in school. Remember the layers of the soil? Remember how long it takes for the natural cycle to replenish it? Remember that it's already a problem with soil erosion and nutrient depletion to the point our addition of nutrients causes ecological disasters.
Now you want to "just replace" fertile farmland made unusable with thawing tundra or long growth forest. If you look back just 100 years you'd know turning forest land into a farming patch is a massive engineering project.
>>75698059
>place in bag
>separate near dump
>take them home and sell them
Way to fail at capitalism.
I wonder why
Hey OP its night for me right now and I have cactus that blooming one night a year. Phone out of battery so I cant share pics but here one I found on the web. I like having cactuses its good for ther wether over here and realy easy you take care of
>>75698949
Shut the fuck up, Kynes. Harkonnen would like a word with you.
>>75698787
Those are what I see everywhere! I'm in Florida and was wondering why all these small pointy plants have huge sticks and flowers coming out of them
>>75696613
Listen here, euronerd. My great grandfather taught my grandfather how to farm. My grandfather taught my father how to farm and he taught me. I'm not a farmer by trade and neither is my father, but only real men know how much fucking work and muscle goes into creating a sustainable food source. And then refine that to make life that is not for edibility, but for art. You're making art pieces out of living beings. It's so high class and philosophically profound that only dindus would think of it being a "pussifieds" male hobby.
And I'm 6'3", 210 lbs, and can deadlift prob 4 times your weight. So fuck you.
>>75698991
Just make a cheap frame from untreated pallets and disposed single pane windows.
>>75698949
Follow the signs, Anon. I find plants infinitely more fascinating than animals, and especially more so than people.
People, especially women, are so predictable. Whenever my girlfriend yaps to me, I find that I can usually tune out for a good 5-10 minutes, and then immediately jump back into the conversation and know what's going on and what to say, simply because she's so vapid and one-dimensional.
Orchids, on the other hand, always throw me a curveball. It seems like there's always something new to learn. Just when you think you have everything under control, a plant comes around that just doesn't seem to quite fit the way you've been doing things and you have to adjust for it.
>>75690425
This global warming thing is a scam.
Because last time I checked CO2 actully nurtured plant growth and it stimulates growth. It's like a greenhouse, but for all plant life.
More plankton stimulates the Oceanic population. Coral reefs benefits from it, which helps grow the ecosystems that revolves around them.
More growth in both jungles and forests is not a bad thing, becuas more herbivores means more excess food for predators, which controls the herbivore population.
More accessability for farmers, more food for us giving farmers a more stable job.
TL;DR: saying that it's bad, is a retarded thing
>>75699053
>temps warm up
>frozen lands thaw and release gasses that cool temps back down again
Wow Abdul.
God damn, i fucking love plants.
Truly an aryan hobby is to have a nice garden with flowers trees bushes and plants of all kinds.
Well maintained it reflects the mind of the gardener, messy and chaotic, or well ordered and nice.
Both things are beautiful tho.
Gotta love fucking plants.
>>75698977
That's a fox glove not an orchid
>tfw son of orchid grower
>this thread
Damn, I never knew /pol/ would be into this.
Most of my clients are women and fags.
I'd do this if I didn't fucking forget everyone.
>>75699373
This thread is comfy as fuck tbqh. First one I've actually enjoyed today.
>>75699522
Post pics.
>>75696028
>Where does this meme come from?
the Koch brothers, mostly
>>75698977
Beautiful color. Nice flowered shape too. I like plants that have that somewhat bulbous/trumpet look. It's different from the normal shape.
>>75699303
>release gasses that cool temps back down
Methane is hundreds of times more potent of a greenhouse gas than CO2.
The only difference it's not talked about more is that it doesn't stick around as long as CO2, nor do we have direct control over it (arguable some degree with global farming, but the real danger is trapped methane in tundras because of the quantity).
>Wow Abdul.
Another mexican intellectual at work.
>>75699595
I'm a little shy about this. Don't want to say too much, but we have lots of orchids .
At home now, so there isn't much to post
>>75697380
These same cacti will turn purple over the course of their lives and their flowers change with them.
>>75690425
>Things that never happened
my garden keeps me from freaking out from all the red pill knowledge
global warming is bullshit
but the stoner chicks are correct: you should grow weed in there
dude weed lmao
Good thread.
I would run up the hill and take a picture of my farm but this will ded by the time i get back. Can you botanists answer a question instead?
How to kill Wild Jasmin? i have been battling the son of a bitch for the better part of a year and it wont fucking die.
>>75690425
the science is settled
>>75699488
>Truly an aryan hobby is to have a nice garden with flowers trees bushes and plants of all kinds.
This!!!
>>75699570
Very comfy ameribro.
>>75699863
t. justin
>>75699495
I know, I didn't say it was, I just posted some pics of my garden I made today.
>>75699717
Yeah I have a preference for more unique plants as well.
>>75699820
Had a few that blossomed outside my house. At night, they released the most sweet scent I've smelled from a flower. Since I moved to Massachusetts, I don't experience that anymore. But that scent was so potent and beautiful.
>>75690425
>I can grow plants well
>Therefore I understand the entire ecosystem
God you're a fucking ignorant dumbshit.
>>75699272
Are you a moron?
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/oct/08/worlds-oceans-facing-biggest-coral-die-off-in-history-scientists-warn
>>75699053
The methane hypothesis was already suppose to have happened with the current increase in temp. It didn't. It's a moot point now.
Are you saying Canada's soil isn't fertile? the fuck? Over 50% of Canada's land mass is covered with greenery.
Even without the tundra thawing, my point still stands exactly the same in regards to the room.
And yes, the soil depletion is a problem. Where? in places like California. Not Canada.
Like, I don't get why we're even talking about this. CO2 is getting higher, we're still dependent on it so it's not going to stop. It'll stop before we hit a level of 800, it won't cause more than an additional 1C rise which isn't a massive issue. You may as well start thinking of better solutions than stopping the CO2, because that aint gonna fucking happen.
>>75699488
Without bees, 2/3rds of the plants would die. Or you will have to pollinate them manually (like Chinese pollinate pear plants with feathers because bees are almost extinct there).
>>75697948
>rescue sarracenia and nepenthes from Lowe's
Some of these are hard to take care of for the average gardener without a bog (for sarracenia) and a greenhouse (for nepenthes). Bet most of the plants sold probably died soon due to neglect and lack of knowledge.
>>75699820
Fishhook cactus
What the fuck is a bible-thumper?
Post comfy gardends
>>75700026
>>75700050
Another Fishhook in bloom, this one is slightly younger.
>>75699863
we're allowed to grow 5 marijuana plants, the judge ruled size doesn't matter, like this guy from Friesland.
>>75700121
Slang in the States for a very religious, preachy Christian.
>>75700121
An insult used to belittle someone for either being a devout Christian or having strong personal morals and actually believing in either unironically.
>>75700171
Sego Lily which is commonly white.
>>75700134
>>75700184
God damn that's a huge cannabis plant, literal trees.
>>75697948
Some sarracenia can be easy to take care of as long as they have enough prey and moisture.
>pic relate: my sarracenia purpurea, eats lots of random insects in summer
>>75700291
Blue (and colors associated with its spectrum) is the rarest color in all of nature. That contrast looks so fucking cool.
>>75700259
Always wanted one of those. Aren't they native to Utah?
>nice hand
>>75700427
Oh yeah it's spectacular.
Check this one out.
>>75700433
They are native to a lot of the SW, however the pink ones only are found in a few places. They were all blooming a week ago in Canyonlands.
>>75690425
Do you feel attracted to this creature?
>>75700529
Forgot my picture, I dont know what this is actually.
>>75699820
Cacti are realy top tier for lazy people. some have realy nice paterns some give delicious fruits and some realy beatifull blooming.
>buy some ornithogalum seeds online because I'm a fan of MGS 3
>try planting some normally
>nothing happens
>look it up
>you need to germinate the seeds for 4 months and then they take several years to bloom
Just fuck my shit up desu
>>75700525
holy shiite
>>75700529
That sounds amazing, man.
>pic relate: tree frog in a sarracenia pitcher
>>75696028
progressives say they care about good things but everything they do is the opposite of what they preach. They are anti-nature at their core.
>>75700705
So does that plant have the ability to digest larger organisms like that frog or do they have to be frail enough to get stuck inside?
>>75700661
The fruit also makes a nice jam.
The media told them that global warming is real and that anyone who disagrees is an idiot. The media vaguely references "various evidence", all of which has already been rebuked by the scientific community (but they ignore that part).
Liberals love ridicule campaigns. Just pretend that everyone who disagrees with you is a fucking moron that can be ignored.
Climate change has little more credibility than lipid hypothesis had.
>>75700705
Will the frog die?
Or is it big guy for a plant?
nice thread
some of my stuff
>>75700604
Might be a penstemon species, not sure though.
>>75694460
The Ozone layer is the only thing we really fucked up on.
Putting CO2 into the atmosphere is not that fucking bad though.
Most of the green house gases in the air is water vapor. The amount of CO2 we put into the air is like tossing a pebble at a bolder pile.
There is evidence that we used to be a much warmer planet than we are now, we are just coming out of a cold period.
For one example, in green houses, they pump in CO2 for the plants at 3x the atmospheres level, this causes the plants to grow like crazy and consume less water. This means that plants evolved to an environment with more CO2 than currently in our atmosphere.
The temperature effects the amount of CO2, not CO2 affecting the temperature. Far left have been misleading by trying to show it as the reverse.
The far left is pidgin holing people into believing global warming, oh wait they changed the buzzword because people were catching on to their fucking bullshit, "climate change" is real by labeling the other side as ignorant. You see all the retards they show on the news that say that 'we don't have to worry about the environment, god will refill our natural resources' but not 'they are just cherry picking data and showing only the data that proves their point, leaving out the part of the data that says they are full of shit'. By making the opposing view points seem like they are ignorant, they effectively shut down conversations about it. They do this with pretty much everything.
>I know that Muslims are peaceful, the media told me so, stop being so ignorant.
>Transsexuals don't have a mental disease, the media told me so, stop being so ignorant.
Stop drinking the cool aid western media is giving you, the people who control it put rat poison in it because they are a suicide cult.
>>75700525
That is some beautiful wisteria. Living art.
>>75695114
Fun fact, water vapor is the biggest green house gas by a VERY large margin. CO2 is irrelevant.
>>75700705
What is that plant?
>>75700663
>trying to grow ornithogalum from seed
shiggydiggy unless you can wait.
Just buy the bulbs online, they're already mature and easy to take care of as house plants.
>>75695735
That picture looks comfy.
>>75690425
scientists are a documented phenomenon, deities arent
>>75700879
Yeah, no one at the park could tell me what it was and it was the only one I saw. It was growing in a small sand dune on a "secret" hiking trail.
>I ask them if they have any knowledge of ecology other than all the pot they smoke
BTFO
I beive climate change is a naturally occurring thing, but we are definitely helping the process along.
We're not the cause, but we are throwing wood on the fire
