You never hear anything any more from Ireland. Just that unemployment is going down and GDP growth is massive. But other than that, whatever is going on in Ireland?
Are Irish like very socialist or very capitalist? How do the Irish feel about Brexit? Will there be Irexit?
>>75688475
Norn Ireland is okay but Southern Ireland is cucked beyond belief.
>>75688650
Cucked how?
>>75688804
Refugees welcome types etc.
Chased a Irish nationalist demonstration out of town.
>>75688804
>Cucked how?
Don't question your British overlords.
Now answer the question in the OP.
P.S. I got a massive deja vu... I even got a deja vu about writing that I got a massive deja vu right now.
Ireland are in too deep for a Irexit. Their population is growing too and there politics seem to be more centre-right atm
>>75688963
Dublin has loads of niggers.
>>75688475
>having just daughters
I feel sorry for him. He'll probably be grandfather to at least 40 black kids, all which have different fathers.
>>75689067
Fuck off cuck.
Stop projecting your fantasies.
>>75689067
>I feel sorry for him. He'll probably be grandfather to at least 40 black kids, all which have different fathers.
Who said he is the father?
>>75688963
I heard today we've taken in 10 refugees, since the "crisis" began. Got a kek out of me.
Also, source on your second statement?
>>75688475
Recently a new minority government has been formed following an election 2 months ago.
The main parties include:
>Fianna Gael - a populist centre right party with roots going back to the civil war
>Fianna Fail - a populist centre right party with roots going back to the civil war, also traditionally the most powerful
>Sinn Fein - a nationalist party with roots in economic marxist thinking with connections to the IRA (as in, half their leadership had planted a bomb or some shit 30 years ago in Northern Ireland). Currently the 3rd largest party
>Labour - spineless cucks. Went back on virtually every promise possible, got their shit wrecked in the last election.
All the other parties are irrelevant, but are various shades of left wing nationalist. Oh and ~20% of the TDs are Independents, so there's that.
This is why you don't hear much about Irish politics. Irish nationalism has always been left wing because they see the British nationalism as right wing, and feel the need to be different.
Because of this, being proud of your nation and all that can never be misconstrued as racist in a PC setting, and non-Catholic immigrants are invited to hear a lecture about the Potato Famine if they ever complain.
>>75689067
Blacks only go after pic related, gingers are too blindingly pure for them.
>>75689019
This
Irish are Socialist cunts.
>>75688475
Irish will never leave the EU. Eurobuck bribery will keep them in till the bitter end.
Everywhere you go you see EU funded improvement signs.
>>75688475
>went to Dublin a while back
>tons of nigs
>paper is drooling over new mosque being built
Dublin is pretty shit and getting worse. Honestly I think NI is much better
>>75688804
>Dublin
>anti-Pegida protests
>voted for fag marriage
>actually fucking voted for it
>>75690651
>caring in any way if gays marry
Wew lad, mind those edges!
>>75690794
Found the faggot. This is why Ireland will never be united. You and your ilk.
>>75690898
Is it because you know no one will ever love you, that you'll be forever alone. Is that why you hate so much?
Ireland is mostly far left on social issues, but this only happened in the last 15 years or so, before that we were more conservative, mostly a bluepilled country, gradually filling up with niggers as our best and brightest leave. most people over 40 are conservative still but are afraid to speak out
>>75691273
>He actually IS a faggot
Enjoy the AIDS, gaybo.
>>75691381
This is what happens when you reject The Church.
>>75689917
Nigga...
Blacks and redheads fuck more than anyone else...redheads are self hating and want to make sure their kids don't have red hair. They are massive coal burners. Nigs love nutting inside them too
>>75691490
which church?
>>75691705
The only Church. The Catholic Church.
>>75691684
Watcha doin Carl
>>75689917
The one on the right, just once in my whole goddamn life, maybe for thirty minutes, and i could die happy.
>>75691750
you mean the church that now says welcome all muslims, thay one?
>>75691750
>he has an idol before God
>it's literally a woman
>>75688475
>GDP growth is massive
well when you're coming out of recession that might not mean much
>>75688475
Being destroyed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCrDp2DZIGs
Niggers are mostly concentrated in big cities like Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Galway. Stay outta those and you only got knackers to deal with. Also most Irish people don't give a shit about politics and only vote for whichever party makes them pay less.
>>75691973
>you mean the church that now says welcome all muslims, thay one
I don't think you know who ACTUALLY runs The Church (TM).
>>75691919
Mick foleys daughter.
Believe she is a coalburner as well
>>75691973
The Church that follows Jesus teaching to love thy enemies? Yes, that one.
>>75692015
What the fuck are you on about?
>>75692015
Oh, nevermind. Worked it out. It's a Protestant not understanding the difference between veneration and worship episode. Carry on.
>>75691684
how do you know these things ?
>>75692063
thats not true, there are pockets of different shitstain countries in every town in the county, there are actual sub saharans living down the road from me, and i live in the sticks
>>75690794
>>75691273
>Ireland isn't cucked!
>Defends gay marriage
Go suck off one of your 5'2 countrymen Seamus.
>>75692052
This makes me hard
>>75692173
left out the bit about diddling kids though
>>75692424
You're statistically more likely to be molested by a teacher than by a priest.
>>75692506
im sure you are, but the teacher would be arrested, whereas the priest was moved from school to school, raping all the way, are you really trying to argue that this is a moral institution?
>>75692766
The priest would be arrested too, once caught. Lots of teachers have molested children and not been caught. Does that mean they didn't do it?
You're doing an edgy teenage rebellion "FUCK YOU MOM I WANT TO SLEEP ON SUNDAYS" thing and it's cost you your country. I hope you're proud.
>>75692900
they werent arrested you retard, if you knew anything you'd know that, the church is the enemy of the white nations now because we no longer are supporting them, so they are complicit in flooding europe with niggers espically who like you are dumb and religious
>>75693088
Yes, no priest has ever been arrested for kiddy diddling. Not one.
>The church is the enemy of the white nations
Whitest nations in the world. Name them. Then check which ones are Catholic. I think you'll find a not-so-surprising correlation, Ahmed, you gay faggot.
>>75690084
>outside malls of chain resturaunts
is it america?
how bad is degenerate consumerism in your country?
>>75693354
>outside malls
What the fuck are you saying? They're just shops on a street m8.
>>75691684
This fucking guy. Never seen this happen ever IRL. Blondes are coal burners you retard, you wanna know why?
Because most blondes dye their hair blonde, which is great. It means their outside matches their insides, FAKE.
That is why I avoid blondes.
>>75693442
degeneracy either way
>>75693593
They're just fucking shops m8.
>>75693180
re read our conversation, you have the argumentative abilities of a 10 year old.
>>75688650
Northern Irish were the original niggers
They gave their degenerate culture to American blacks who then made it even worse
>>75693463
While both of you are retards for arguing this, redheads are fucking mental in general.
We had a election recently and 60% of the vote went between FF and FG, both right of centre parties.
Pic related is us on the index of economic freedom
>>75693700
>r-read it again! p-please let me save face!
If the Church is the enemy of whites, why is Poland the whitest, most right wing country in the world right now? You thick faggot cunt. I hope your body is riddled with AIDS and you die painfully.
>>75693738
they are centre right economically, but not on social issues
>>75693705
How many niggers are in Appalachia?
>>75693442
there actually are outdoor malls full of chain stores here, they're made to look like 'real' shops on a street
>>75693706
Can confirm. Dated several, currently dating one.
Oh well
>>75693738
>australia is over canada
>>75693840
catholicism isnt a magic spray that repels niggers, poland is ethicnically polish because they are landlocked between two super powers and never developed as a trading nation. is that too complex an answer, or would you prefer i rap polands history so you can better understand
>>75690280
I sent out my postal vote for the UK to leave the EU today, you are right though, I have yet to find one other irishman that would do the same
Fuck I love gingers
>>75694122
I think all that muslim dick in your mouth has scrambled your brains lad. Go ahead, tell me how being non-white is proof you're a great country.
>>75690651
>Caring whether or not gays marry
Edgy, we left you freedom hating cunts behind years ago.
Niggers in belfast? Shit man how far the jews have made you fall
>>75688475
Economically illiterate, socialist (gibs me dat) and non-nationalistic. We're not known as the niggers of Europe for no reason.
The north is nationalistic but has it's fair share of tards.
>>75694248
Found another faggot.
>>75694481
Yeah, there's a few. It's a shame. I went for a walk earlier and saw at least 5 of them over the course of my 4 or 5 hours I was out walking. Shame.
>>75694242
>Go ahead, tell me how being non-white is proof you're a great country.
when did i day this, i dont even know what your point is? do you? We had Catholicism, it did not make us a great country, We dont want Islam, or Judaism either, how about a rational nation state based on etho cultural lines, or we could just bow down to the church and hope they fix everything, is that your plan?
>>75691490
99.8% of our public schools are Catholic. The Catholic's are now letting Muslims set up Muslim schools, alienating Muslims from the rest of our country is a very bad thing, any hopes of integration basically died when they started doing this shit. Those schools will be breeding grounds for radical Muslims, I guarantee it. Unfortunately that's not going to change, considering that they wouldn't be accepted in any Catholic schools. I actually had to become Catholic just to get into school. Did you know that on the Catholic school's list of religions that they pick students based on, Muslims are more valued than atheists? Atheists can't get into school in Ireland unless they get baptized, isn't a big deal desu, kind of an inconvenience at most. My dad cares a lot though, now that he's a retired lawyer he donates most of his time to opposing this law and the Catholic control of Ireland's education system, got an EU enquiry organised pretty recently.
>>75694645
Why do you guys hate the fundamental freedoms on which the Western world was based upon so much? If you hate giving people the freedom to do something that harms literally nobody so much please go to Saudi Arabia, stay away from the west. You probably don't genuinely believe what you're saying though, just trying to be edgy
>>75694662
>Had Catholicism
>Socially conservative, sane country that rejected SJW bullshit and faggotry
>rebel against it like an angsty teen
>Get fag marriage isntantly
Abortion in less than 5 years, guaranteed.
>>75694687
Catholics didn't alienate Muslims. Muslims alienated themselves. Like they always fucking do. You cannot live with Islam. You simply cannot.
>My dad actively has retired and now fills his time by having an angsty rebellion against the church in his spare time
What a faggot.
>>75694900
>fag marriage
>fundamental freedom on which the Western world was based upon
How fucking retarded are you, faggot? Hope you get AIDS. For all our sakes.
>Probably don't genuinely believe
Want to fucking bet?
>>75694645
I wanted to go to belfast and see how it is.. i dont wanna go if imma see niggers about im spanish i wanted to be the only one.. when multi culturalism goes wrong ..irish style. But do they negroes live in the troubled spots like shankhill road would they be bothered
![Racist-attack-on-a-house--011[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Rje5dbF.jpg "Racist-attack-on-a-house--011[1].jpg")
>>75695040
>I'm Spanish
Fuck off, shitskin.
The niggers don't live in "troubles spots". They live near the city centre, which is pretty much the only place you'll see them. They're not welcome in "troubles spots", as you call them.
>>75693705
You've been reading Sowell I see. He's not wrong.
>>75694625
Socialism is the only rational choice for a functioning government. Communism is shit, and full capitalism is shit. We need a private sector corporations have to have an incentive to produce quality goods and to maximize the efficiency of their production, which in turn encourages innovation and technological developments. Another reason that socialist societies benefit consumers is that producers get direct feedback from consumers on their products, in a socialist society if consumers do not think a good is worth its price, they just won't buy it, in communist societies they don't get this option. Communism also provides no incentive to study hard in college and get a job that requires skills and training instead of just taking an easier job that requires no skills or training, this is very very bad for an economy. There are some goods and services however, that are not profitable to provide or should not be profitable to provide and therefore must be provided by a government, for example the education, defense and health systems. Every functioning economy needs a private and a public sector, monetary and fiscal policy have impacted the Irish government substantially and made us as rich as we are today.
>>75695256
no i have not. i dont read books written by niggers
>>75694980
>Abortion in less than 5 years, guaranteed.
Lol
>Strawmanning this hard
Nobody mentioned abortion, which most Irish atheists strongly oppose.
>Catholics didn't alienate Muslims. Muslims alienated themselves.
They literally didn't let them into schools, and forced them to set up their own schools.
>How fucking retarded are you, faggot? Hope you get AIDS. For all our sakes.
Right just trolling now, go back to Saudi Arabia you freedom hating cunt.
HNNNNNNGR so cute
>>75689225
look up PEGIDA Ireland
>>75695570
>Lol
Great argument.
The conversation was about how cucked the South is. Abortion is the next step on the path to cuckdom. You've already taken the first step in fag marriage.
Muslims literally refuse to shake women's hands in Swiss schools. The government had to step in and tell them they can't do that shit and muslims are throwing a shitfit over it. Muslims alienate themselves. Any excuses you throw in their favour paints you as a traitor.
>u-ur a t-troll!
Fuck off faggot. Your kind aren't welcome here. Fag "marriage" isn't freedom. It's a death knell.
>>75694980
your too stupid for words
>>75695614
Ireland will never go right wing, it goes against our nature, we're a go along to get along kinda people, and will be until there is no gingers left on the island only niggers
>>75694900
>fundamental freedoms on which the Western world was based upon so much
men marrying men is obviuously fucking retarded
>>75695816
>your
Wow, you sure showed me how stupid I am. Those arguments too? Woo-ee! Top drawer lad.
>right wing is against our nature
>Was entirely the population's nature until 15 years ago
kek
>>75695816
>Ireland will never go right wing
the two main parties are right wing
>>75688475
Irish nationalism is a meme. They will claim to love Ireland and the Irish identity, yet will display "refugees welcome" placards at Celtic games. Truly a strange group of people, but as a prod, I'd rather befriend an Irishman than an Arab or black
>>75693840
>Anglo
>White
>>75695999
I'm a fenian. Care to try again?
>>75695840
it is, but most ppl didnt care about tht, they voted yes to earn liberal brownie points, and made sure everyone they knew, knew which wy they were voting, i voted against it, but i knew it would pass
>>75695916
they are not right wing, they make bernie sanders look like trump
>>75695840
No amount of arguing or rational though will ever be able to fix this amount of mental retardation. There is no point arguing with you, I can tell you're too dumb to ever understand my points from how you write. Same as >>75695766
Keep being an edgy freedom hating cunt.
Anyone else want to see a black guy creampie a redhead after seeing that OP pic?
![Confusionism[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G0JfqVp.jpg "Confusionism[1].jpg")
>>75695967
Loyalism is just as much of a meme tbqh. Pic related.
>>75696090
Look at the little faggot. Look how mad he is. Look how he runs away when confronted by someone who won't bend over for him. Sad little faggot can't handle confrontation. Run away little faggot. Run away.
>>75696075
The country was socially conservative for most of its history, FF and FG are not the left of Sanders
>>75696090
When I went to Ireland a few years back to visit relatives and be an insufferable heritagefag I saw some pretty cucked looking areas in Dublin, but spent most of my time in comfy rural areas
>>75696180
I'm still here Ahmed, don't worry. But there really is no point arguing with the shit you spew, letting you speak for yourself damages your cause more than me arguing with you ever could.
>Abortion is the next step on the path to cuckdom.
What is that even meant to mean? You pretty clearly get all of your political knowledge from 4chan. Abortion is very different from gay marriage in the way that it has a direct effect on another living organism, it harms something, which gay marriage doesn't.
>>75696203
what i mean is that its a socialist state, ie a gibs me dat state, despite whoever is in charge, we are far left of america in general
>>75696287
Your argument was literally
>men marrying men is retarded
>>75693882
I require an image of this
>>75695601
Have to wonder about that hand.
>>75696604
>gibs me dat state
Try refuting >>75695383 before repeating that shit, you all clearly get all of your economic and political knowledge from 4chan, almost every major issue here is extremely over-simplified.
>>75696516
>Ahmed
Norn Iron: 98.3% white
Ireland: 95% white
Norn Iron: 0 mosques
Ireland: 2 mosques
Tell me more, Ahmed.
>still no argument
That's it little faggot. Back down from the mean men. Back away like the faggot you are.
>What is that even meant to mean?
You've just signalled to the world that you can be stepped all over when someone throws some buzzwords are you.
>Give fag marriage or you're homophobic!
>Okay, here's fag marriage!
>Give abortion or you're sexist!
>Okay, here's abortion!
>Bring niggers in or you're racist!
>Okay, welcome niggers!
>Bring muslims in or you're islamaphobic!
>Okay, welcome muslims!
Fag marriage normalises divorce. Divorce rate goes from 16% to something akin to America's. Suddenly it's not a bad thing to divorce. Children of divorced parents are more likely to kill themselves as well as more likely to commit crimes. But yes, that doesn't hurt anyone at all! And AIDS? HIV? Bah! Those don't hurt anyone!
>>75696180
But loyalism accounts for the middle class conservative attitude in northern Ireland that dominates the political landscape, and has outlawed abortions, kept grammar schools and said "fuck off" to gay marriage. Showing me a picture of east Belfast clowns won't change that.
>>75697104
Don't get me wrong lad. I love loyalists. Strong, white, conservative nationalist lads will always be good in my book, even if they fucking loathe me. I'm just saying that loyalism is as much a meme as Irish nationalism here. We're far too entrenched in our tribalism for it to be anything more than a meme. We've adopted flags from the Middle East just to piss each other off, for fuck sake.
>>75696816
simple, socialism is fine, if everyone is on board, those who can work do, and allow some of their tx o support those who cant, where it fails is when you subsidise a large parasitic class and import not nationals to leech the system, which has happened here,
there refuted
Does /pol/ discriminate against redheads?
And no, not just the girls, the boys too. ;D
>>75696891
Called you Ahmed because of how much you hate the west and the respect for freedom that it was founded upon.
>That's it little faggot. Back down from the mean men. Back away like the faggot you are.
I don't understand this part because you addressed my argument(badly, but still had to recognize its existence) at the end of your comment.
>Give fag marriage or you're homophobic!
>Okay, here's fag marriage!
Blatant strawmen, stop being retarded.
>Fag marriage normalises divorce. Divorce rate goes from 16% to something akin to America's. Suddenly it's not a bad thing to divorce. Children of divorced parents are more likely to kill themselves as well as more likely to commit crimes.
What the fuck are you talking about? You have to recognize how fucking absurd that sounds. You legit sound like a schizo. Please provide some stats that support your insane claims.
>>75695187
Good to see my fellow country men doing the Lord's work.
How come Scotland contributes more to science than Ireland, even though they have similar populations?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_inventions_and_discoveries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Irish_inventions_and_discoveries
>>75697245
Socialism hasn't failed us, it fucking saved our economy on multiple occasions. If the Irish government hadn't been able to intervene with monetary and fiscal policy during our recession we wouldn't even be in the EU right now, our public services would have stopped and we would have ceased being a functioning country.
>import not nationals to leech the system
Migrants are beneficial to the economy. That is a fact. Taking in people who are young enough to work has consistently improved economies, but don't take my word for it, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQXiCLzyAw. You might learn something. You still haven't addressed the majority of my original comment. What do you propose we do instead of socialism, full-on capitalism which is retarded or socialism, which is also retarded?
>>75697586
Because Scotland is attached to England that's why
>>75697586
well were better at them at music, literature and not dressing as women.
and costa ricas achievements would be what exactly?
>>75697245
This. It's why socialism worked in Sweden and Germany until kebab and other foul things arrived for the gibs.
>>75697817
*communism, which is also retarded?
>>75697369
>fag marriage is what the West was founded on
Maybe if you repeat it enough times, you'll convince yourself at the very least, eh faggot? kek
>FALLACIES! FALLACIES! DODGE THE ARGUMENT AS MUCH AS I CAN!
Mid kek.
>YOU'RE CRAZY! YOU'RE INSANE! YOU'RE PSYCHO! YOU'RE SCHIZO! YOU'RE MENTAL! YOU'RE CRAZY IN THE COCONUT!
Top fucking kek. Talk about fallacies, eh ad hominem? TOP KEK
>Gay marriage leads to gay divorce
Do I really need to prove that to you? Are you that disabled?
>Divorce
>As recently as 2004, Wallerstein asserted that divorce begets fewer marriages, poorer marriages, and more divorces—and that divorce is not an acute stress from which children recover, but a life-transforming experience.
>Children whose parents have divorced are increasingly the victims of abuse and neglect. They exhibit more health problems, as well as behavioral and emotional problems, are involved more frequently in crime and drug abuse, and have higher rates of suicide.
>Children of divorced parents more frequently demonstrate a diminished learning capacity, performing more poorly than their peers from intact two-parent families in reading, spelling, and math. They also are more likely to repeat a grade and to have higher drop-out rates and lower rates of college graduation.
>Divorce generally reduces the income of the child’s primary household and seriously diminishes the potential of every member of the household to accumulate wealth. For families that were not poor before the divorce, the drop in income can be as much as 50 percent. Moreover, decline in income is intergenerational, since children whose parents divorce are likely to earn less as adults than children raised in intact families.
>Religious worship, which has been linked to health and happiness as well as longer marriages and better family life, is less prevalent in divorced families.
Good thing you ignored the HIV bit though. Smart move not trying to argue that.
>>75697937
But socialism is still working in both of those countries, please actually read the original comment.
>>75697817
the answer is national socialism, at which point you will be shot
>>75697817
>we wouldn't even be in the EU
You're embarrassing us
>migrants are beneficial to the economy
You're embarrassing us
>instead of socialism, what about socialism except socialism is retarded so clearly socialism is superior to socialism
You're embarrassing yourself
>>75698021
Sweden would like a word with you
>>75697937
>>75698021
Why are you mentioning two countries which aren't socialist? Germany and Sweden are both capitalist countries with the latter having a generous welfare state, Neither countries are socialist. If they were, both of their countries would have hit the shit long before now.
>>75697965
>denying that the west was founded upon freedom
Why do you hate western values so much?
>Gay marriage leads to gay divorce
>Straight marriage leads to straight divorce
Good point, let's just outlaw all marriage
>HIV
Let's just outlaw anal, and normal sex, and needles since HIV can be contracted in all of those ways.
>>75698297
But they are, with both private and social control over the means of production.
>>75698021
>socialism is working in both of those countries
Norway is fully prepared for Sweden to collapse at any minute.
>>75698304
>still
>fucking STILL
>insisting that fag marriage has ever had any history in the West
Kill yourself. Seriously.
>Fags are notoriously shit at monogamy
>This definitely will have no impact on the divorce rate, right guys?
Kill yourself. Seriously.
Fags are 60 times more likely to have HIV than anyone else. SIXTY. You fucking faggot. I'd say "I hope you catch it" but statistically speaking, you probably already have it.
>>75694170
If you are Irish then why can you do that?
>>75697907
>MUH LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE!
>>75698252
>migrants are beneficial to the economy
Want to refute this source? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XQXiCLzyAw, or are you just gonna continue to rehash shit from /pol/?
>>75698548
>this source
>It's a random youtube video
u fucking wot m8?
>>75698440
>private and social control over the means of production.
That's every fucking country in the West then you potato nigger. Stop trying to move the goal post. If I wanted to be nice to you sheep shagger Sweden around the 70s could be argued as socialist due to their insane corporation tax however that is no longer the case.
>>75698448
>insisting that fag marriage has ever had any history in the West
>Strawmanning this fucking hard
Never fucking said that, I'm going to explain this for the 100th fucking time now, emphasis on personal freedoms when your decisions impact nobody but yourself has massive history in the west and it made it the great place it is today, if you dislike personal freedoms please go to some shithole eastern Christian/Muslim country
>Fags are notoriously shit at monogamy
Stats?
>SIXTY
Stats? Besides, it's not being gay that makes contracting HIV easier, it's anal sex, so should we ban that instead of gay marriage?
>"I hope you catch it" but statistically speaking, you probably already have it.
I'm straight
>>75698548
I'm just here for some bantz before bed but
>rehash shit from /pol/
>while you're on /pol/
Back to r*ddit
>>75698665
A YouTube video that references national studies and basic economic theory, just watch it.
>>75697907
>and costa ricas achievements would be what exactly?
A Costa Rican has been to space. When will we see Irish astronauts? It's 2016...
>>75698700
But that's the literal definition of the word
>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production
>>75688475
> Wearing high heels on snow
Female logic everyone
>>75699180
we're going to colonize the sun, but at night, when its cool.
besides, ameriburgers paid for his ticket
>>75688475
>tfw you'll never be that guy
>tfw you'll never have a big happy family
>>75699020
>I've never said that
Every fucking time I mention fag marriage being retarded and detrimental, you shout MUH FREEDOMS THAT THE WEST WAS BUILT ON when fag "marriage" has never, ever been considered a "freedom". You fucking spastic. Marriage is not a fucking right. Get that through your thick fucking skull like you do muslim dicks.
>Male sexuality, whether oriented toward females or other males, craves variety. But whereas almost all heterosexual men, perhaps after “sowing wild oats,” settle down with one woman, homosexual men do not settle down. Ever. A classic, large-scale study by Bell and Weinberg conducted during the 1970s and published by the Kinsey Institute found that forty-three percent (43%) of white male homosexuals had had sex with 500 or more partners, and twenty-eight percent (28%) had had sex with 1,000 or more partners. Seventy-nine percent (79%) said that more than half of their sexual partners had been strangers.[i] In 1985, Pollack found that gay men averaged “several dozen partners a year” and “some hundreds in a lifetime” with “tremendous promiscuity.”[ii] In their 1997 study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in the Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven, et al., found that “the modal range for number of sexual partners was 101-500.” In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1,000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than one thousand lifetime sexual partners.[iii]
>A 2011 survey conducted by Britain's National Health Service found that the average number of lifetime sex partners for heterosexual men was 9.3; only 25% of men had been with more than 10 women in their entire lives. A 2007 survey in the U.S. found that the median number of lifetime sexual partners for men was seven.
>>75688475
poor girl, she is the genetic failure.
>>75699020
>Among the approximately 784,701 people living with an HIV diagnosis, 396,810 (51%) were MSM. About 48% of MSM living with an HIV diagnosis were white, 30% were black, and 19% were Hispanic or Latino. Although the majority of MSM are white, non-whites accounted for 54% of new infections HIV related MSM infections in 2008.[7] A recent study estimated that for every 100,000 MSM, 692 will be diagnosed with HIV. This makes MSM 60 times more likely to contract the virus than other men and 54 times more likely than women
2% of the population account for more than half of all HIV cases. Faggots.
>It's not being gay
It fucking is. That's why fags are 54 times more likely to get it than women, you thick cunt.
>I'm straight
You're fooling nobody, faggot. You've got a dog in this fight and we all know it.
SOMEONE PLEASE POST THAT "When she says "London will conquer Ireland once again" with her location on" meme
>>75699401
Yeah I'm just fibbing, our biggest achievement is having less coups than the neighbors.
>>75699596
Link to the fucking study, green texting it is worth nothing, it better be peer-reviewed too.
>Marriage is not a fucking right
Fine, have it your way, no marriage for anybody, but there is literally no fucking reason to go out of your way to single out one group of people and tell them that they cannot marry based on the grounds that HIV can be contracted from anal sex. That's retarded.
>MUH FREEDOMS THAT THE WEST WAS BUILT ON
Wonder how many of your ancestors died fighting for their rights for you to disparage them? Freedom means not being forced to do anything assuming it harms nobody but yourself. Can't really explain that to somebody whose only argument is
>Get that through your thick fucking skull like you do muslim dicks.
though
>>75700284
Precisely zero of my ancestors fought for fag marriage, faggot. They fought for my right to vote though and I use that vote to keep fag marriage illegal.
>Link to the fucking study
All of the studies names are in there, as well as the authors fo the studies. I'm not spoonfeeding you. inb4 "u wun gib me dats so dat means dey ain't real" like a fucking mongoloid teenage girl getting pissy with her dad.
>Doesn't harm anyone but yourself
I already explained how fag marriage is detrimental to society as a whole. You ignored it because I had the numbers to back it up, remember? If you keep ignoring arguments and pretending they were never made, then that's on you, faggot.
>>75700284
Also, since you're an absolute retard, I'll explain this to you. I can't believe someone is so disabled that I have to actually explain this to them. Things CAN exist without being rights. Marriage isn't a right, but that doesn't mean "no marriage for anybody" you utter, utter spastic.
>No fucking reason something something HIV
My argument against fag marriage was fags being terrible at monogamy and this leading to normalised divorce, not HIV. Learn to read.
>>75700284
Until recently, the primary purpose of marriage, in every society around the world, has been procreation. In the 20th century, Western societies have downplayed the procreative aspect of marriage, much to our detriment. As a result, the happiness of the parties to the marriage, rather than the good of the children or the social order, has become its primary end, with disastrous consequences. When married persons care more about themselves than their responsibilities to their children and society, they become more willing to abandon these responsibilities, leading to broken homes, a plummeting birthrate, and countless other social pathologies that have become rampant over the last 40 years. Homosexual marriage is not the cause for any of these pathologies, but it will exacerbate them, as the granting of marital benefits to a category of sexual relationships that are necessarily sterile can only widen the separation between marriage and procreation.
Fuck you and your degeneracy
>>75701440
Adoption, done. Fuck off
>>75701440
Also you're the "degenerate" one in this argument, most people support marriage
>lacking some usual or expected property or quality, in particular:
You're the degenerate here
>>75701440
>Letting fags adopt
Fags are shit at raising kids. Kids raised by fags are more likely to abuse drugs, more likely to commit crime and more likely to kill themselves. The nuclear family is, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the absolute pinnacle of family-raising. If you want to increase the amount of criminals and suicides in society just to make 2% of the population happy, then you're traitorous scum.
>>75701568
>>75701707
kek the empirically verified common wisdom about the importance of a mother and father in a child’s development should give advocates of gay adoption pause. The differences between men and women extend beyond anatomy, so it is essential for a child to be nurtured by parents of both sexes if a child is to learn to function in a society made up of both sexes. Is it wise to have a social policy that encourages family arrangements that deny children such essentials? Gays cannot provide a set of parents that includes both a male and a female
checkmate, degenerate
http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-less-intelligent-still-oppose-gay-marriage-on-average/ People who oppose gay marriage are significantly significantly less intelligent on average than those who don't. Kek'd
>>75701568
>Emotional problems were over twice as prevalent (minimum risk ratio (RR) 2.4, 95% confidence interval (CI) 1.7-3.0) for children with same-sex parents than for children with opposite-sex parents.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2500537
>>75701568
>Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):
>Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
>Have lower educational attainment
>Report less safety and security in their family of origin
>Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
>Are more likely to suffer from depression
>Have been arrested more often
>If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female
>Children of lesbian mothers:
>Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
>Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
>Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
>Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
>Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
>Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
>Are 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
>Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will
>Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
>Use marijuana more frequently
>Smoke more frequently
>Watch TV for long periods more frequently
>Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense
>>75702079
>significantly significantly
I love when the retard does something retarded while trying to call someone else a retard. Love it.
Faggot.
>>75688475
Why do Jews have the genes for redhair?
That dad is obviously a Jew.
>>75702079
> not replying to anything I've posted
> bullshit from some random blog
(you)
>>75702116
1. Who Authored the Study and What are They Investigating?
-snip-
Called the ”Emotional Problems among Children with Same-Sex Parents: Difference by Definition,” (ECLS), http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2500537 the study is authored by Catholic priest and sociology professor Donald Paul Sullins, who may also be familiar to readers as a key member of the anti-gay Family Research Council‘s Marriage and Religion Research Institute. http://www.marri.us/ For many in the LGBT community, this might already be a red flag, but researchers obviously can have these kinds of affiliations and still do good work — they just need to be as rigorous as possible in data collection, analysis and interpretation. Let’s see if that is the case here.
2. How Was Data Gathered for the Study?
The study culls information from the National Health Interview Survey (NHIS) that was collected between 1997-2013. In total, the research analyzed 207,007 children, 512 of whom were identified as having at least one biological parent now in a same-sex relationship (more on that shortly).
This is where our first objection to the study comes into play. If we are studying same-sex parents and comparing them to opposite-sex parents, it logically follows that, given marriage offers a raft of benefits that support child-rearing, we should control for whether the same-sex parents were married like (presumably) most of -really-tells-us-about-gay-parenting.htm
>>75702394
Look at him squirm. Grasp for those straws, faggot. Pretend they're muslim dicks. Grasp.
>>75702394
the heterosexuals in this study were, or at least inquire as to the marriage status of all involved. This is not controlled for in the study.
Secondly, we would also take into account one key fact: if the same-sex attracted parents had a child as the result of a previous heterosexual relationship, this obviously will have a bearing on the child’s emotional well being because they will most probably have had to endure a break-up and divorce. The study does not adequately account for this fact either.
Third, the study should also have controlled for whether the same-sex parents were in stable longterm relationships that specifically included the cohabiting partners each taking on a parenting role. By the study’s own admission, same-sex parents were classed only as “those
>>75702570
persons whose reported spouse or cohabiting partner was of the same sex as themselves.” Again, there appears to be no adjustment for this meaningful variable.
-snip-
3. Sullins’ Framework Produces Unfavorable Results for Same-Sex Parents
In terms of same-sex parents, Sullins found that the children of what he classed as same-sex parents were emotionally worse off than children from heterosexual biological parents. In short, child distress was elevated by psychological distress of parents, and was elevated by family instability, among other factors that Sullins identified.
-snip-
Of course it depends on how Sullins frames his conclusions as to whether we believe this study has an overt bias or simply a flawed methodology.
4. Sullins Makes Assertions About Same-Sex Parenting and Marriage the Study Clearly Doesn’t Support
Sullins then plays an ontological game. He claims that because same-sex parents by definition cannot both be biological parents to a child, they cannot possibly offer children the same level of care as heterosexual parents:
-snip-
Sullins has also made the following comment on his research (h/t Thinkprogress):
“The reduced risk of child emotional problems with opposite-sex married parents compared to same-sex parents,” Sullins concluded, “is explained almost entirely by the fact that married opposite-sex parents tend to raise their own joint biological offspring, while same-sex parents never do this. The primary benefit of
>>75702570
>While trying to prove that fags are okay to adopt he proves fags increasing the divorce rate has a detrimental effect on children and society as a whole and he doesn't even realise it
>>75702654
marriage for children, therefore, may not be that it tends to present them with improved parents (more stable, financially affluent, etc., although it does do this), but that it presents them with their own parents.”
Sullins goes on to say that his study’s results “justifies social and policy concerns about differences between family structures, including between opposite-sex and same-sex families.” In other words, he is implying that there is reason to bar same-sex couples from marriage: namely that they cannot provide children the same level of care and emotional adjustment as heterosexual couples.
There are two major problems here. Firstly, Sullins is making a claim that his study did not even investigate. ...
Second of all, and perhaps even more glaring, is the entirely baffling use of “biology” and “biological parentage.”
>>75702700
5. Eye on the Supreme Court?
So why bother authoring a study that is very obviously flawed? Well, we need only look at the rush of praise from those opposed to marriage equality to see its worth.
Another Gay Parenting Study Finds Children Do Best With Mom and Dad; Will the Supreme Court Care?” asks the Christian Post (also referring to the heavily flawed Regnerus study), http://www.care2.com/causes/did-the-religious-right-create-bogus-study-to-sway-the-scotus.html and the Post is joined by a number of organizations on the Right ...
The previous Regnerus study came out just in time for the Windsor case, indeed it was rushed specifically so that the Right could have some kind of study against same-sex parenting to oppose the mounting evidence that same-sex parents are just as good as heterosexual parents despite having been severely disadvantaged by anti-LGBT laws. http://www.care2.com/causes/what-the-australian-study-really-tells-us-about-gay-parenting.html
>>75702808
You're definitely straight though, right faggot? KEK
>>75702695
>Divorce should be illegal.
Fuck off
>>75702916
Legit am
>>75702929
>Making up arguments so you don't have to address what was actually said
>>75702969
Fooling nobody, faggot.
>>75702394
At least make it known that you're using pasta from a gay propaganda blog.
http://www.care2.com/causes/5-things-to-know-about-the-new-gay-parents-are-bad-for-kids-study.html
http://www.care2.com/causes/author/stevebwilliams
>>75702695
He's so deluded in his SJW fag marriage political ideology that he doesn't even show that fag marriage has any beneficial effects for children and society instead bases his entire arguments on trying to refute us (who are saying that its harmful) by questioning technicalities and grasping at straws
>>75703045
>this faggot getting BTFO this hard by Costa fucking Rica
>>75703045
Didn't even take it from there, took it from another site, that guy just reposted it.
>>75703157
So post your source for crying out loud.
>>75692052
goddamn if someone could out nigger the niggers, it's the irish
>>75693738
>right of center
>but sinn fein the nationalist party believes in a multicultural ireland as long as the british get out of the north
Your country is both cucked and cancer because you want to spread your cancer
>>75703656
SF are bleeding votes. Nobody wants anything to do with them because of their cucky bullshit. The party will die, at least in the North, if they don't swing far right soon.
>>75703656
>Sinn Fein
>haven't been elected since 1922
>nearly literally a hundred years ago
>he thinks they are relevant
>>75697244
Northern Ireland is a meme in itself. Republicans and loyalists fucked the place beyond belief and now it is the black sheep of the UK as no one wants it, not even the people that live there.
I'm expecting a major disaster for it in the future as it cannot sustain itself.
>>75704111
Greatest fucking meme in the world though. I want it and so does everyone in it. We've fought a civil war over this shitty little piece of clay. If there's one thing the people of Northern Ireland want, more than anything else in the world, it's Northern Ireland.
>>75688475
I'd fuck the dad and break that family up in a second.
>>75688475
>You never hear anything any more from Ireland
It's a socialist hellhole that is so cucked by the EU that is no longer has a useable military in any shape or form. Horrendous security forces, garbage tier police force too.
It also has the 2nd highest percentage of fighters going to Syria........so things are getting pretty fanatical down there.
It's fucked long term.
>>75692052
>Actually advocating for the IRA to kill immigrants
Don't know what to feel anymore, at least the majority of the world agrees with me and isn't fucking insane
>>75704359
>Not wanting the muzzies to go back to the desert and die
kek, typical Anglo. Pathetic cuck.
>>75704247
I want a Northern Ireland that actually works. Not the dysfunctional, about to collapse any minute Northern Ireland that we have now. We still have republican terrorists and loyalist terrorists being fucking cretins and a population that can't leave the shitty past behind.
Until then I'm avoiding both communities and most people to further my career aspirations and just enjoy life in general.
Northern Ireland can become something but it has a very long way to go until then.
>>75693180
Haha forgot to bring that up actually, the Pope supports migrants and gay marriage. He actually kissed the feet of immigrants. And in the Catholic religion, the Pope is infallible and speaks the word of God, so all Catholics have to support immigration. Lol
>>75704462
>He's actually a fucking cuck that wants niggers and muslims to rape his family and considers defending the country from invaders "insane"
>>75704639
Oh fuck off. Nobody gives a fuck about you fence-sitting cunts.
>>75704661
>The pope supports gay marriage
The Pope is not infallible in Catholicism. He is only infallible when speaking Ex Cathedra. You fucking retard. Kill yourself before the AIDS does.
>>75704767
Read up faggot
>When, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
>>75705040
Yeah, read up faggot.
>The use of this power is referred to as speaking ex cathedra.[5] The solemn declaration of papal infallibility by Vatican I took place on 18 July 1870. Since that time, the clearest example of an ex cathedra decree (not the only such decree)[6] took place in 1950, when Pope Pius XII defined the Assumption of Mary as an article of faith
>>75704767
Also here, one Pope while speaking Ex Cathedra declared that the Popes were all infallible even when not speaking Ex Cathedra https://books.google.ie/books?id=9PMcCMarydYC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=pope+ex+cathedra+migrants&source=bl&ots=JHq-B5QRmn&sig=6VM_-UFsZ0ls402h-dLup7nOkoU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEgdb-14XNAhXLAMAKHX3gARcQ6AEINDAE#v=onepage&q=pope%20ex%20cathedra%20migrants&f=falsehttps://books.google.ie/books?id=9PMcCMarydYC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=pope+ex+cathedra+migrants&source=bl&ots=JHq-B5QRmn&sig=6VM_-UFsZ0ls402h-dLup7nOkoU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEgdb-14XNAhXLAMAKHX3gARcQ6AEINDAE#v=onepage&q=pope%20ex%20cathedra%20migrants&f=false
>>75704767
What other option do I have? I don't want to interact with republicans or loyalists as they are lunatics. Education is the only way forward. At least with education, I make money and can enjoy life.
They do create happenings though so at least there is some use. Riot season is coming soon and the live broadcasts are decent enough.
>>75705129
That's a complete different segment of the article you dumbfuck. Catholics are meant to follow the Pope's doctrine regardless of whether he's speaking Ex Cathedra or not, because of >>75705219
>>75705219
Can you even fucking read?
>and the acceptance of papal infallibility WHEN SPEAKING EX CATHEDRA on faith and morals
Fucking retarded faggot.
>>75705254
What other option? Fucking off and killing yourself.
>>75704304
Bear hunter, eh?
>>75705391
>Also here, one Pope while speaking Ex Cathedra declared that the Popes were all infallible even when not speaking Ex Cathedra https://books.google.ie/books?id=9PMcCMarydYC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=pope+ex+cathedra+migrants&source=bl&ots=JHq-B5QRmn&sig=6VM_-UFsZ0ls402h-dLup7nOkoU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEgdb-14XNAhXLAMAKHX3gARcQ6AEINDAE#v=onepage&q=pope%20ex%20cathedra%20migrants&f=falsehttps://books.google.ie/books?id=9PMcCMarydYC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=pope+ex+cathedra+migrants&source=bl&ots=JHq-B5QRmn&sig=6VM_-UFsZ0ls402h-dLup7nOkoU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEgdb-14XNAhXLAMAKHX3gARcQ6AEINDAE#v=onepage&q=pope%20ex%20cathedra%20migrants&f=false
>>75705644
Posting it again doesn't change what it says, you stupid cunt. That greentext in my post? It's a direct quote from your fucking link.
>and the acceptance of papal infallibility WHEN SPEAKING EX CATHEDRA on faith and morals
Retard. Kill yourself.
>>75688475
Dublin has higher nigger density than Stockholm, I was there last summer. Took me by surprise desu
>>75705391
I will decline that offer my friend. Enjoying life at the moment as I have the resources to do so.
Anyway, need to sleep. I'll read the rest tomorrow.
>>75705887
It's not an offer. It's a recommendation.
I hope you never wake up.
