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You have nobody to blame for this "white genocide" than yourselves.

Your inability to get married and have white children is the biggest and arguably the sole reason to blame for the decline of numbers in the white race.

So what's your excuse /pol/? Instead of complaining on here all day about "Muh genocide" why don't you get out there and start having some children?
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i'm black :^)
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>>75687845

>Your inability to get married and have white children is the biggest and arguably the sole reason

But what requires men to do that? Women.

Don't even try to tell me how pure and awesome women are. Most people here don't believe it.
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>>75687845
>Your inability to get married and have white children is the biggest and arguably the sole reason to blame for the decline of numbers in the white race.

Estonia's population was relatively stable, whites weren't dying off here, if they bring in shit loads of niggers of course they will breed out whites because they are niggers
I don't see how that is our fault, not the government's for bringing those niggers in
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>>75687845
This times 6 million. All this "white genocide" is just /pol/ projecting their sexual insecurity and betaness
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>>75687845
I'm not white though.
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>>75687845
because there aren't enough good jobs and good women to make it feasible. I wouldn't knock up any random white girl if she is trash, then the offspring would grow up to be fucked up too. I also should not have kids until I can be financially secure enough to support a family and not just myself.

We need to MAGA before I can hope to have a family of my own.
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>>75687845
Nah fuck you. I'd much rather sit here on my ass crying on 4chan all day instead of going to school and getting a useful degree and hitting the gym so that I'm not such a repulsive looking loser. Women should be throwing themselves at me simply because I'm white.
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>>75687845

I'm genuinely autistic. Even though I'm fairly good looking, and my sort of autism shines in terms of making money, I can't seem to stay in relationships for more than two months before going back to anime and national socialism. Feigning normie-ness is hard senpai
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>>75687845
>t. woman
more important things, like remove jew, science, conquest, exploration, immortality, discovery come first
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>>75687845

I know that, and there is nothing that can be done anymore. Just look to preserving your genes in a successor vessel then.

If you are white, find an Asian.
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>>75688718
how does your autism help you make money?
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More like lack of true economic prosperity in the west (a result of endless beaurocratic ineptitude and wasteful policies spending money on degenerative programs and actions) has resulted in too few opportunities for young men to find gainful employment capable of sustaining an estate and a family.

It's not enough to have a white daughter in poor city housing, pissing her inheritance into the wind because you wanted to have a kid for selfish feel good save - the - white - race reasons. If you don't own property and can't afford to provide an environment that isolates the children from the influence of the outside world you are wasting your time.
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>>75687845
There will be more whites in 2060 than there will be today. The percentage will be down due to mass immigration and high Hispanic birth rates.
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>>75688223

First post best post
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>>75687845
>Your inability to get married and have white children

Inability or rational decision based on net benefit?
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>>75687845
White people not marrying and not having kids wouldn't be a problem unless it's 100% of them - or foreigners flood into your country where they'll take up the resources that could've been otherwise used by the White natives to have more children, and them (the foreigners) using said resources to outbreed and thus replace the native population. The latter, according to the definition of the UN convention on genocide, Article 2, is genocide.

It's clear what the problem is and why "white genocide" is the correct term for it.
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>>75687845
Except that even intelligent, very fit, alpha-male types, the ones that do get laid and quite a lot as well, are averse to entering long-term relationships due to the concern that Western women are more whorish than any group of females in known history. MGTOW did not start as a movement among bitter virgins.

I do agree that it isn't healthy to subscribe to any philosophy that does not put the individual first. If you want to get laid you and you simply aren't getting any pussy, you need to recognize that as a problem and work on it. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is wrong to say white genocide is real. You can hold both views simultaneously and they are not mutually exclusive.
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>>75688994

I can learn and apply advanced mathematics pretty quickly. It's handy in quant trading
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NEETs never had a demographic impact. The problem is wealthy white people only want 1-3 kids, not 8
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>blames a small subset of autistic NEETs instead of the high power conspirators flooding western civilization with brown competition.
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>>75687953
Me too :3
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>>75689517
>knowing the problem
>knowing the solution
>not executing it
>muh problem bls fix
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>>75687845
I can already predict the reactions to this.

>Y-You're wrong, it's DA JOOS!
>DA JOOS are why I don't have a girlfriend
>DA JOOS are why the white majority voted for and approved of mass migration
>DA JOOS are why we no longer have children
>DA JOOS are why white women are feminist
>B-bu-but somehow we're still the mustard race

If Jews really managed to manipulate an entire fucking culture from ruling the world to downright suicide in under half a century, they deserve to rule this planet. Seriously, that's Death Note "I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew" level bullshit.
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All this white nationalist shit & MGTOW garbage is honestly just /pol/ virgins and betas projecting their lack of sex.
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>>75689692
Dude just date multiple girls until you can subvert one psychologically to the point of being a submissive mother
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>>75687845
Eat a dick asshole...its not like they chose to be indoctrinated. Have some fuckin' respect for a fellow countryman and get mad FOR them instead of AT them.
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>>75690098

nice post, reddit

i get sex every night.
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>>75689712
>quant trading
>advanced mathematics
kek
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>>75689855

>blames the Jews when not all high powered conspirators are Jewish
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>>75690098
You're playing identity politics. You do not need to be a kissless neckbeard to read statistics on birth rates, to recognize the discrimination against men in court, or to see the negative effects of mass immigration. I'm not saying that virgins don't make up a non-negligible percentage of the alt-right, but their virginity doesn't discredit any argument they provide.

For example, I don't hate feminists because they tend to be unfuckable mounds of ham, I hate them because their arguments have false logical premises.

>>75690099
Whatever works for you
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>>75690666
and while I can agree that white women are more attractive it just isn't worth it. Society has made most of them into monsters.
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>>75690366

> algorithmic game theory and graphical model are not advanced
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It would make no difference at all if everyone on /pol/ had 10 white children.

We can NEVER outbreed the non-whites, they already have over a 6 to 1 advantage in numbers.

They must be kept out.
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>>75687845
So no Jews have anything to do with feminism, divorce law or misinformation about sex? Pretty sure all three of those are as Jewish as the publishing industry.
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>>75687845
Not really sure if this is an excuse, but I already had 3 kids. Too bad the Jews took them away for their blood sacrifices to Moloch. They keep leaving me inflammatory messages like, "payback for the 6 million"and "gas the goyim."
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>>75687845
It's not my fault. I've been married now for 13 years to a girl I met in the 7th grade. We've got 3 boys and a girl on the way and we're raising them the redpilled way in the Great State of Montana. What's your excuse?
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>>75690666
based Filipino's
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>>75687845

white genocide is about as real as the petriarchy

>people who are mad at biology because of their pigment or gender being inferior
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>>75690205
>its not like they chose to be indoctrinated
But they did, retard. Unless they were tied to a chair with their eyes forced open à la Clockwork Orange, they chose to be indoctrinated.
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>>75691687


Funny you should say that considering all europeans will be minorities in their countries by 2070.
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>>75691877

yeah its a shame how biology works, guess the only thing we can do is either to pander to the feminists/alt right

or accept reality hmm
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>>75691687

It's about tens of thousands of years of selection for an environment, then thousands of years of selection for societies, not skin pigmentation.
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>>75692071

well if it isnt about skin, then i guess we can all just go for mixrace and there shouldnt be a problem, bio-diversity is good, afterall we know that societies can change from barbaric to civilized within a few decades, just look at the downfall and rise of civilizations, and what russia,germany and china did in the 1900's
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>>75687845
Sure thing its every one fault if you lose your Punctuation to the Greek and now use deceptive lies to implement greater Israel..
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Western governments bring in non-white immigrants and make the nations culture multicultural. Western media pushes an anti-white, multicultural image onto impressionable white youth. Jobs are given to non-whites over white people in many fields and industries. Capitalism and globalism working through corporations has ensured that jobs go overseas to places like China and India thereby directly robbing white people of their futures.

But please, tell us all again about how white genocide is the fault of young white men who have no future and spend their days on a anime centered image board instead of impregnating white women.
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>>75689712
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>>75690830
>he fell for the quant meme
>not realizing he'll be out of a job in 3 years
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>>75687845
But I'm married and have kids lmao, you're just projecting
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>women are voting for legions of refugees and open borders because muh compassion and lack of logic
>this is somehow something i could have prevented
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>>75687845
>>75689692
>>75690666
>>75690785
I'm feeling the urge to culturally enrich.
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Yeah come on guys. You just have to be yourself and it will prove billions of dollars of advertising and the popular opinion of the majority of western women wrong. They will see the error of their ways
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>>75687845
importing immigrants at replacement level is genocide, ask the tibetans.

japs don't breed much, yet they aren't importing africans and arabs. there is no jap genocide.

there is no need for whites to breed more, this is a jewish meme based off of jewish economies that require unlimited growth. whites breeding less is smart.
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>>75692500

Whites and Yellows are generally civilised because the unfit genes were not suitable and became less frequent.

Blacks have not undergone this filtering process, so race mixing introduces a large amount of genetic material that was not survivable in this environment. One example is the "Warrior gene" which causes uncontrollable aggression, which is present in 1/20 sub-Saharan Africans, but only 1/1000 whites, and almost no East Asians.

It also works the other way: if the genetics of the population are no longer suitable for the society, the society will collapse because the skills and behaviour required to maintain it are not there.
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You're right, I've fucked nothing but Asian girls for the past 5 years.

I will not change.
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>>75693067
>importing immigrants at replacement level is genocide, ask the tibetans.
One big difference: the Tibetans don't want the Chinese. The Chinese government is actively enforcing a replacement policy.

Westerners, on the other hand, are actively voting for more immigrants. And when Muslims say they want to exterminate our way of living? We applaud them, and ask for seconds. And vote for even more immigrants. And if one Achmed blows himself up it's a white man, or more likely a white woman, who rushes to their aid to defend them. White, not arab, white.

There is no such thing as whtie genocide. There is only white suicide.
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>>75693091

still, does not disprove the point
if skin color isnt the problem racemixing with asians by your standards is a good thing.
Not to mention that as soon as you remove a stupid but usefull indicator of behavior such as pigment, you essencialy need a better system to dermin who needs to have that level of social control ect. or you need to give people the tools to see themselves.

both ways its either too little choice in a facist government that needs a better system to identify and differenciate those humans
OR give people the tools, but lack control to force people to do what you consider a good goal to achive.

seems to me like the ideology fails no matter what. Just like the feminist one fails
simply because they dont understand politics, but would rather try to change the reality of human interaction and irationalism
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gee would be nice if we didn't have 15b+ net LOSS from migrants AND you loose your shitty job if you even say one thing naughty. Oh and the women are emotionally pressured day in day out.

all our fault.
lol, sure, in a weird round about bullshit kind of way.
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I'm asian. I'm only attracted to white women.

Sorry /pol/.

I'll try to raise the little guy to be a good person.
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>>75693328

They're the useful idiots.

The majority of people are concerned about immigration but won't voice it because it's considered socially unacceptable.

When it's time to vote, the only parties that don't support immigration are demonised as racist and made out to be generally inept to keep the majority voting for the status quo. It's slipping though and more people are willing to vote for these parties because they consider it the only option.
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>>75687845
Well as someone who is married and who has a child on the way let me say that it's a very difficult thing to put yourself in a financial and societal position to do so. I'm not a nigger, the feds won't pay to feed my kid, house it, or buy it medicine, and the very taxes they take out of my paycheck every week go to do just that. Is there a "white genocide" like /pol/ would claim? Probably not, but western society definitely incentivizes the worst people to breed early and often in life while making it more difficult for the productive classes to do so.
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>>75693860

direct democracy would have saved every country in europe, if not from the imigrants (if they voted to keep them) but from whining from the left and right side whenever their government does something.
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>>75693860
>The majority of people are concerned about immigration
No they're not and this has been proven on multiple occassions. Front National didn't win a single région in France, the Austrian anti-immigration party lost out to the fucking GREENS and even if UKIP got seats in parliament proportional to their votes recieved they still wouldn't be big enough to be a government party. Also after the whole rapefugee scandal Merkel's approval rating dropped... to 40%. That's about the same level as Obama and twice that of Hollande. And high enough to ensure there isn't any real rival to Merkel in Germany's political scene.

Don't delude yourself, anti-immigration sentiment is present but most Europeans just want more and more and more. And Canada isn't any different with their Trudeau. Whether America is different, well... that remains to be seen. They might end up with Clinton, who actively wishes to be like Merkel.
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>>75687845
>OY VEY
>BLAME YOURSELF, WHITE MEN
>PAY NO ATTENTION TO ME
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>>75693580

>if skin color isnt the problem racemixing with asians by your standards is a good thing.

I think it's less destructive, but it would destroy the unique character of each race and produce something less suited than either race to either type of society. A small amount is fine, but it should never become the primary means of reproduction.

Skin colour is a good indicator because it is a byproduct of a long period of geographical segregation in different climates. The colder ones, where lighter skin was an advantage due to greater Vitamin D production, also require a greater level of foresight and restraint to plan and survive the winters.
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>>75687845
>the 5th one of these threads in 12 hours

I'm glad you're pushing many virgins to have sex, but what gives shill?
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>>75687845

Well i blame white women. Who only stay in the shape show in your post if theyres money in it. Elsewise theyre satisfied to get fat and expect you to accept it.

Better make $100k+ a year if you want your woman to be fuckable sober.
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>>75688664

merchant, femasculinist, or numale?
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>>75687845
Is it also my fault that women are uninteresting, whores who all are used to just getting anything they want?
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>>75688664
>OY VEY
>GO TO (((((SCHOOL)))))
>GET YOUR (((((DEGREE))))))
>WHILE NIGGERGENE CHADS ARE RAPING YOUR WOMEN
>WHICH AREN'T YOURS
>YOU DON'T DESERVE THEM
>YOU DON'T DESERVE ANYTHING
>BUT SLAVING AWAY FOR ME
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>>75691687
>petriarchy
patriarchy is real though you milo memesouting autist. you really deny that men haven't had more power in all civilization? it's not a bad thing obviously, but it definitely exists.
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>>75688664

sorry judenlady, white men literally do deserve white women for being white, because white men are the best and most worthy people on the face of the earth

we're dealing with a case of cultural AIDS - aka you

once we clear that up, we'll get things back to normal around here
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>>75693328
>are actively voting for more immigrants.
where the fuck does this meme come from? there was never a vote in favour of mass immigration, there just wasn't any alternative within the mainstream political establishment.
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>>75694157

When it came to the election here, every party, aside from the far-left ones, pledged to reduce immigration levels. This was a major topic of debates, when it hadn't been in the past. The conservatives won and then did nothing of the sort, but it tricks people. The next election, it will be an even bigger issue, and maybe the lies will work again, but it won't work forever, because the problems will only escalate.

The majority are anti-immigration, still, despite the greater numbers of immigrants voting and the indoctrinated young:

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-concern
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>>75694686
>judenlady
>white men are the best and most worthy people on the face of the earth
Jewish IQs are one standard deviation above White IQs, which are one standard deviation above black IQs. So much for white men being the most worthy people, huh?
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>>75694589

>men haven't had more power in all civilization

So where's my magical man-power? Why can't I will my desires into law?

Oh wait - it's because all the (((men))) in power don't give a single fuck about me, because there is no patriarchy, at all.
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>>75687953
>>75689954

Nice to meet you.

I wouldn't mind the shitposters, though. Their bark is worse than their bite.
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>>75694804
>cultural aids thinks IQ is the only thing that matters

What's it like to not know how to love or care about anything, not even your own children?

What's it like to only know hatred for the white man?
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>>75694853
because you don't know what patriarchy means.

fuck off milofag, your type are literally retards.
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>>75687845

>So what's your excuse /pol/?

I'm red haired and green eyed. Racemixing would be doing the world a favor.
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>>75694589

Women have held a great deal of power throughout history, just not the same kind of men:

https://youtu.be/xrgovSZ32Yg

Almost every society ever is a patriarchy in the sense that representatives of the society are male.
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>>75694804
Very smart people often lack good instincts.
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>>75694739
This
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>>75694804

Reminder that sooner or later, HIGH IQ juden get themselves pogrommed because they only know how to use their HIGH IQ to wreck and smash and destroy

Unlike the white man, who has the ability to build and create, because he is a productive race and not an abortive one
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>>75694291

>but it would destroy the unique character of each race and produce something less suited than either race to either type of society

so its not about quality, but estetics?

not to mention that the individual diffrences make up a bigger effect on "suitability for a certain society" then gens do.
This is simply because the evolution of species is a long one, while the evolution of society devided into shorter periods, like i said before, societies change more quickly (1900's, the political climate now, ect.), and its hard for gens to adapt to quick changes, hence the bigger focus on indvidual diffrences.
Which i think will bring better results

which also makes the pigment as a good indicator thing rather lacking. A system based on merit would be better to determin the overall quality or suitability for certain societies.

the only problem would be if one determins things by estetics (as you seem to be doing)
which makes all this talk about adaptation meaningless because one isnt interested in quality
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>>75694945
So it DOESN'T mean that I personally have any power at all?

Okay then HIGH IQ JUDEN, tell me, why should i give a single solitary fuck that there's a patriarchy?
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>>75695112
>>but it would destroy the unique character of each race and produce something less suited than either race to either type of society

>so its not about quality, but estetics?

Jesus fucking christ if you're going to quote something you should read it first you fuckin moron
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in 2nd year of a long term relationship with blue-eyed blonde, have 50% Blue/Blonde genetics myself, pushing 30

will probably do so next year or the year after

get off my case, cunt

also was wondering how many kids I would realistically need to have if both parents on my gf's side have blue and one on mine have blonde hair, any amateur neonazi geneticist wanna help me out?
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>>75694589

good, im sure if you use your skills a bit more, you will be able to figure out the similarites and why people who are on the bottom want to be on the top (suprise)
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>>75695041
Salon & Breitbart, plz go.
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>>75695199

>unique character

>implying implications
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>>75694589
>>75694589

"Patriarchy" is just a slur for "government", because every government in history is created by men, because women aren't capable of governance, only destroying governments.

Specifically and as always it's a jew slur meant to trick men into disavowing their thousands of years long record of success in building civilizations for the safety and well being of our women who we love

The Juden is only capable of treating this as an evil because she is incapable of loving or caring for anything, anywhere
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>>75695112

Your idea raises the moral question of whether it is right to take the best from other societies for our own.

Every high IQ black you take from Africa is removing those genes from Africa and making it worse.
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>>75695117

They are one of these people that think that western civilization is still a "patriarchy" because some men are successful and not all men are not living miserable downtrodden lives. Many of us are in despair, but that's besides the point.
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>>75695344
what the fuck are you even babbling about you literal autist.

>hurrr whites are inferior because their governments are taking in huge amounts of immigrants
>this, like, a metiocracy! cos, hurrr, patriarchy.
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>>75695232
doesn't matter since the child will be half emu
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>>75687845
>So what's your excuse /pol/
im sterile so im dating a girl who is also sterile. We plan on adopting a white girl or 2 and giving them a loving family so they dont turn into complete sluts or sjws.
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>>75695232

What is your own hair and eye colour?
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>>75695603
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>So what's your excuse /pol/? Instead of complaining on here all day about "Muh genocide" why don't you get out there and start having some children?

I'm a failure and having kids with the state my life is in would be irresponsible, can you stop making these fucking threads already? We have threads like these every day and they're /b/ and /r9k/ tier shit you unoriginal yank faggot.
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>>75695117

HIGH IQ Juden doesn't seem to be answering my very simple question?

Shouldn't her lightning-quick judenbrain have come up with the answer by now?

c-c-could it be that she doesn't fucking have one, and was just fucking dumb enough (HIGH EYEKYEW) to think nobody would ever fucking ask that?
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>>75695435
The problem with text based interaction is that nuances that are apparent in the flick of an eye, a frown or a gentle smirk are not immediately discernible, hence how all civilizations and their annals are but a recitation of the blood shed upon these minute discrepancies.
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>>75695817
>an you stop making these fucking threads already?
>WAAAH DONT TRIGGER ME ANYMORE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MY SAFESPACE I DONT WANT TO BE REMINDED IM A FAILURE
You dont belong on this board if you are a beta cuck. Go away and never come back.
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>>75690028
>"I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew" level bullshit.

I never watched Death Note but this is some funny shit desu senpai.
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>>75687845
>2016
>Not sitting at home and swipe right until you're 67...
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>>75695481

well the problem here is that if we are talking morals, instead of the ideas and arguments you and i presented
the system would fail from the begining
there is no moral way to keep such a system of "engeniered biology" intact, as i explained earlier when talking about giving people the tools (allowing for free choice) or simply forcing them to mate in one perticular way

you see, the facist way isnt a very good one when one consideres all these implications

but of course you can throw away morals, merit and simply go by estetics and simple but unspesific traits like "pigment"

and even then you have to deal with the common problems of societes with people stepping out of line in terms of law.

So you might ask yourself why not go meritocratic?
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>>75695586

are you conflicting posts or users now?
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>>75696107
no. you are literally babbling like a retard.
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>>75696035

Because I think it is wrong to take the best from other societies.

I don't think the average person will naturally racemix without external pressures.
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>>75696269
sorry if you cant keep up, im having a convo with another dude, maybe next time
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>>75687845
>So what's your excuse /pol/? Instead of complaining on here all day about "Muh genocide" why don't you get out there and start having some children?
It is actually quite simple, friend...

I am Brazilian, that means that despite being born white I will never be considered white by the remainder of the white countries, /pol/ has made this quite clear to me several times.

Since I am not considered to be white despite my skin color, I see no reason why I should restrain from mating with my half japanese girlfriend and making mixed babies with her.

It is not like my children would even be considered to be white anyway, might as well grant upon them a special minority status and avoid the horrors of being called a racist bigot just for having clear white skin.
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>>75696341

well based on the last statment, there would be no need for authoritarian measures, so the facist part wouldn't be true, as you simply expect people to act in a certain way, rather then force them or apply "external pressures"

and with that i would have no problems. You are allowed to have your opinion, despite me thinking its less effective as a personal and broad philosophy then a meritocratic one
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>>75696631
keep up with what? your first comment made no fucking sense, the general tangent you've been on through this thread is pure autism with shitty english.
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there is incentive to have children
in canada our productivity is taxed to subsidize laziness
you need the right kind of job to support children properly and for most of the people 20-28 yrs old on /pol those jobs are few and far between even with a stem degree
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>>75696938

well either you try to understand, or you buzz off, there arent many options

you havent said anything interesting yet either, so im going to keep on talking to the other brit, since he seems to be able to actually understand my shitty english
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>>75697130
you've alluded to the idea that white genocide and patriarchy are the same in that white people and women are inferior? as if the flooding of white countries with immigrants has something to do with some autistic universal "metiocracy" that you've invented - am i on the right lines?
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>>75696751
I do think this status has been bequeathed upon thine people on account of their conduct in the otherwise meritorious verbal jousts inherent to the open lines of communication such CoD and other fine venues of of fraternal rivalry

and curse these stupid boxes of storefronts and trees!
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>>75687845

>Hur lets fight this mass of uneducated third worlders by outfucking them

That's not how it works, to win this you've
>Get them out of your country
>Cut off the means in which they can support massive amounts of people
>nature will runs it's course and their population will stabilize.
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>>75697867
Be it as it may be, I have no reason whatsoever to try and fight for a race that turned it's back on me, I have no reason whatsoever to shed tears for the "white genocide" going on in europe and I have no reason whatsoever to make white children.

That is just how it is.
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>>75697422

Why are you confusing "patriarchy" with "some men that are successful and/or not downtrodden"?
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>>75696893

Any philosophy that requires a paradigm shift like that isn't going to happen as far as I care. It's LARPing.

If such a society was actually set up, I think it would rapidly fail due to guilt. People would start feeling guilty about living in a better society and want to extend it to the less fortunate, eg: granting entry to some children from poor families or the third world without meeting the entry requirements that built the society in the first place, then a denial of the reality that these new additions are a detriment.
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>>75697422

no, it was meant as an eye opner on how people use biology wrong
its the classical is-ought problem that hume talked about

and the only way to make it clear for people on this site is to point out the similarites with something they dislike (feminists)
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>>75698131
>nature will runs it's course and their population will stabilize.

you could say the very same thing about "us" white people, many of whom are quite content with amassing wealth and enjoying its delights without even a second thought of the shape of things to come.
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>>75687845
I'm twenty-fucking-one, give me a break. I'm trying, but it'll be easier when I'm actually financially stable.
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>>75698343

which type of society are you talking about?
because your comment can refer to both, especially the guilt part
meritocratic or facist?

in anycase, if the argument can be used on both sides , do you have a third suggestion?
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>>75698228
News of the genocide of Europe are greatly exaggerated, by the usual suspects.

What I fear is the spark of empire.
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>>75694804
Yeah man that high verbal IQ and tiny spacial IQ so stronk.
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>>75688223
>6 million

Hmmmmm....
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>>75698857
>mathematics isn´t a language
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Welfare is the problem... Cut it and the unfit won't survive.
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>>75698639

We have to work with the societies we already have an be realistic in what can actually be done.

If my country is to survive this decade, we need to deport most muslims, because otherwise they're going to become the majority by just outbreeding everyone else.

This isn't possible yet because people would not agree to it, however, severely limited immigration is still just about within the overton window, so that is a goal for now, even if it won't fix the problem by itself. If world events shift the opinion of the masses, then maybe one day deportations will be possible. Hopefully voluntary or incentivised, rather than coerced.

Getting white people to just have more children isn't a possible solution either. As I said here: >>75690960

There's no point dreaming up idealistic solutions or blaming people for not enacting them. The only thing that has ever been possible is nudging the masses in a way they're already moving. Yuri Bezmenov analogised it to Judo.
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>>75699249
Unfit for what exactly?
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>>75687845
It is the fault of white women ;^)
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>>75698427

Nature running it's course means famine, war and disease, what faces all those who show no restraint in their breeding.

A people that can not even farm on their own does not deserve to feed off another and mass produce like mindless retards.
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>>75687845
we actually need to work on artificial wombs and genetic engineering (to remove any inferior genes)

white women are fucked beyond repair

and have you ever dealt with raising kids? while trying to work a good paying worthwhile job? you can never be around the kids are fucking little shits and the bitch (wife) steals your fucking money and complains 1. you arent making enough and when you work more to make enough 2. she leaves you for not being around

what you should all do is donate at least $1 to genetic engineering research. most whites arent pure white anymore anyways which is irreverasble without physically removing the nigger genes from the DNA before formation of an embryo

try and say this is a bad idea. why wouldnt you want to live in a technologically advanced society populated by pure white males? no women or other races.

what we have always had over the savages is technology. lets fucking use it
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>>75699475
>farming
I guess you´ve never heard of a 'tractor' or a 'combine harvester'
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>>75688664
Implying gym can fix ugly
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It's not white genocide, it's white suicide...assisted suicide I guess.
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>>75699759

Holy shit Czech are you fucking autistic? I mean the concept of farming and I meant that as literally the simplest stepping stone of civilization..

Are you intentionally acting retarded today because that whore you birthed has killed freedom of speech on the internet?
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>>75687845
I'm not white, though my gf is ;^)
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>>75700003
lolwut? I see no need to plow the field like some fucking serf when a single machine can do the work of 10000 men. What are you, a robot?
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>>75687845

How does that solve Jews getting all the money?

How does this fix the broken fucking marriage laws?

What does this do to stop illegal immigration and migrants raping women?

What does this do to curb the effects of toxic feminism?

This is just sticking your head in the sand and being a good goy and making more consumers.
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>>75689692
who cares let the nigs have our women. We can take ukraines women
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>>75699281

i have said many times in past threads that this whole ideological mess wouldnt have happend if people had direct democracy and could choose these typs of actions based on the scale its effecting them

it would also help people to take responsebility for their countries actions and see the bigger picture in international politics

its a shame that the other option seems to be facism for most people, and they are willing to give away the limited power they already have and giving them only one possibility if they want to change their mind, a revolution
instead of being able to keep the system as it is, and be able to change things esier (but still not as easy as with a direct democracy)

hope this isnt too far off-topic, im simply trying to find the common ground here, as you seem to be more willing to take the route of democracy, current institutions and free choice rather then the facist approach many on /pol/ subscribe to
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>>75687845
/pol/ is such hypocrites, if you guys want to save the white race why aren't you having kids????? its your fault and only your fault you could have a kid TODAY FFS but do you? will you? in 10 years from now you could have more babies then any woman can since she'll have only 5 babies tops, you could have multiple partners and at least double that number, thats why /pol/ just are the biggest irony of any bord... white genocide is because /pol/ who are the intellectual powerhouse of the internet won't use that power to lure multiple partners to plan a future to save the future. your choice to not MAN UP to help make these babies are the sole reason white people and the sole reason the west will fall to a minority by as soon as 2043.
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>>75700392
it depends

this would HAVE been the best choice but some countries are too far gone to have a direct democracy without first having a fascist state to remove all the shitskins/SJWs
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>>75700463
This place really went downhill when m00t sold out

I guess freedom ain´t free, after all.
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>>75687845
we cant cuz the blacks and roaches get all the hot autistic ladies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKPtFv15lWE
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>>75700463
have you ever dealt with a fucking baby? while trying to work a worthwhile job? this is why most nigger men leave their kids thus causing the "black kid never knew his dad" ""stereotype""

not to mention leaving the raising up to indiviual parents is what has cucked us in the first place. parents will raise their kids to hate being white

artificial reproduction and being raised to be loyal to the white race. its the only way
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>>75700463
>/pol/ is such hypocrites, if you guys want to save the white race why aren't you having kids?????
I explained my reason here>>75696751
You can't seriously expect me to try to save the white race after it turned it's back on me and others like me from my country.
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>>75700556

>kek
demoracy means accepting diffrent opinions
sorry it seems like you dont want that
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>>75700556
I kinda tend to judge people by the content of their character

Things like bravery and love of truth. Things you don´t care about, since you are a machine.

Machines don´t care about truth. They just spew out the calculations they were programmed to resolve.
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>>75700854
i want a white state. obviously shitskins (and this generation of women as well) would deny that

the other answer is to deny them the vote but that just gives them something to fight over

help them build their own state and have them all go there. whites wont be allowed there and they wont be allowed here

as for SJWs theres a difference between opinions and advocating literal treason (globalism)
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>>75701130
You entirely failed to qualify all of your statements
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>>75701130

im sad to tell you that democracy is a two way street

it still does not sound like you want it.
If people claimed facism was treason (which it is if a country has a difffrent status quo)
then you would appeal to democracy wouldnt you?
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>>75701051
most people at least where i am are very cucked and totally brainwashed

maybe i think like a machine but i actually prefer dealing with machines than most people.

eventually in 300 years human races wont matter. machines will have taken their rightful place as the rulers of the free world.

in a war between most of humanity and machines id side with machines every time
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>>75700463

see

>>75700362
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Why can't you faggots come to terms with the fact that you are living in a period of decline and move on with your lives?

There are people living in countries like Brazil and Mexico where the apocalypse already happened and they get things done every day. They have sex start families make money have hobbies etc.

I'm from Russia where the collapse already happened and where hope was never on the table. I still get shit done tho. Fixating on the things you cannot change is a waste of time desu
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>>75687845
Uhhh I have impregnated my white wife and we are expecting on Christmas day

Eat shit
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>>75701411
And you would lose.
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>>75700392

Direct democracy with universal suffrage probably isn't a desirable end-goal, as no-one can be the master of all concepts they'll be voting on.

Dictatorship isn't desirable either because it won't necessarily do what you want it to.

What seemed to work for a long time was a split society where only a small portion have any power. It was previously based on wealth and inheritance, which worked for obvious reasons, but probably isn't the ideal way to decide it. You could say it should be on a basis of merit, but there exist tenured professors who are clearly not fit to make these kind of decisions, so that's a problem right away. Any kind of voting eligibility test is subject to exploitation, eg: only allowing those that give pro-immigration answers on the test to pass.

It's better to see what society can actually be made into rather than dreaming up end goals which may never be possible or ever work.
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No im not going to date a single mom

No im not going to date a nigger lover.

Now slide on.
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>>75702674
Slide is all yours, fatso
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>>75700362
if you think that even half of those things you listed will be fixed before 2043 your not looking at the past 40 or 50 years properly or even looking at agenda 21 and to think that males will ever reverse the planned state and roles they are set to be placed in is laughable due to this plan for the next 84 years is a "MUST BE". so I don't think you even know what your implying to have all these problems with those things your listing when your asking for better times when its already fucked and you have no idea your a rat in a lab saying "what are they going to do to us today" every fucking day and can only look at the degeneracy of today. also considering you didn't give any solutions to these things your listing (not like it will have affect on the shill enforcing planet) your just at a vantage and perspective point of a groundhog watching as yet another semi truck rolls its wheels over us all and saying " well here is the problem" not knowing that you could be an eagle and see the landscape with eagles vision. unfortunate.
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>>75702195

well your last sentence is a strange one, as it implies letting society go do its thing, the question would be if one would be okey if it turned against your wishes, and yet your second sentence about "dreaming up goals" removes your own wisheses from the equation

i dont see the connection to your previous posts im afraid

as for direct democracy, it seems logical from an non-authoritarian viewpoint to take that stance. Especially when one consideres the point about collectives, which societies are) , that no matter what type of government one chooses or is "forced" to adopt, it always happens by either a democratic first step, to either keep democratic decision making or choose another form of government. Or if people are forced, they are being complaicent as an collective to adopt the ruler or ruler(s)

as you can see, direct democracy seems to be linked to the main factor of society, which is group action, a collective made of individuals

hope that made sense, if not il try to explain further, but first, i would like you to anwser my comment about your viewpoint and its seeming contradiction to past posts
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Watching the pathetic whinging of white nationalists complaining that white women just aren't good enough for them, or coming up with all sorts of other excuses, is just comic gold.

Holy shit. If you honestly can't find any faults with yourselves, then it's no wonder you've been duped by the white nationalism meme.
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>>75702908

Im skinny you bumblebee tuna bitch nigga.
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>>75703269

There can only be short term goals.

One of which is preventing the country from becoming a white minority country, a threat that exists in my lifetime, because of the aforementioned genetic compatibility with societies as a result of geographic location.

This is more important than societal models.

If it reaches the point where a dictatorship is the only way, then that is what I'll have to support.

I can't support direct democracy as >>75700556 states; it would be a disaster with the current state of society.
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>>75687845
My excuse? I'm a spic lmao. I could abstain entirely from having kids and it'll no effect on the white population. But you lads need to procreate more. I'd hate to see this wonderful country turn into the shithole my parents escaped from.
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>>75704030
What the hell are you talking about? They are too good for me. Way, way too good. YUGELY good.

I have small hands, of course. Very small hands.Yugely small. Not very generous hands.

Oh no! Nothing I do is ever done out of self interest. Not my style, not my style at all!

I got Jazz hands, you see. In this life, it´s ALL ABOUT THAT JAZZ AND THAT BASS AND THAT ASS

Right, bro?
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>>75687845
but I'm not white
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>>75702195
you two are so cute, argumenting about the arguments of the other person who you are argumenting.
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>>75704119
Putting aside the fact that whites just don't have kids and that's the whole problem, why do you insist on the one-drop rule? M-m-muh purity! Children born to a mixed-race couple will be 50% white - so why are they not counted as being mixed? Isn't partly white still pretty white? It's genetically ignorant to give an absolute "no," and your whole argument is based on myths about muh genetics so this whole thing falls apart.

Won't a country with more minorities lead to more interracial marriages, and therefore children that are majority white in genetic heritage after several more generations of such intermarriage? This fear of some sort of "white minority" or "white extinction" at worst is fallaciously spitting in the face of an actual understanding of genetics.

What the fuck do you idiots want? This is a non-issue that's driving you to throw away your individuality for totalitarianism in the name of "defending muh heritage."
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>>75704119

the first part is understandable from your perspective, as its an reaction, reaction based politics are common , nothing im perticualry in favor of, because short term goals mean precisely as you discribed it a path to dictatorship, and then energy has to be used to remove the regime once the population is done with it.
but it does make sense in a scientific evolution based thinking, as in "survival"

the problem seems to be the agreement with him, as he does not support real democracy in that statment, which makes me wonder if you understand what democracy means

its not "if we remove everything i dislike, then its okey"

i still cant see a clear picture of the ideology your trying to describe, as it seems contradicting in parts, which is my experience with both facist and liberterian ideology
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>>75687953
>mfw /pol/ is actually mostly black people
I'm black too.
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>>75687953
Ey brother, same here
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>>75705030

As I mentioned before, the races are a result of tens of thousands of years of geographical separation, adaptation to environment, then adaptation to the societies these adaptations allowed the creation of, resulting in the filtering out of unsuitable genes.

If racemixing is common, then it undoes this filtering process by reintroducing genetic information that was not suitable for the society, or introducing new information that was never in the society in the first place, but is still unsuitable.
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>>75688518
>We need to MAGA before I can hope to have a family of my own.

Trump only breeds with subhuman slav women.

Your argument is void.
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>>75690666
>I've gone filipino now and things are better.

>Implying she hasn't been in gangbangs for hire since age 7 and hasn't fucked over 5,000 ching chong flips
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>>75705545
>I'm black too.
>check flag

Yeah, we know.
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>>75705708
and geographical separation has been crushed, annihilated, made moot, redundant.

No nation, no people, no corporation, no individual can survive without global trade.

Lest you propose all of humanity go live in tents in the woods and die from a less that delightful union of dysentery and superstition.

What is suitable to you, moron , for the survival of the human species?
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>>75691465
>What's your excuse?

Don't want to live with a hamplanet with a clown car vagina in the middle of BFE with a bunch of snotty nosed home-schooled future trumphugging idgits.

Mostly...
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>>75705708
>resulting in the filtering out of unsuitable genes.

This is a huge leap. Humans have many, many different ways to "succeed" and have a way of passing their genes on. Filtering out "bad genes" is just not possible.

Also, what makes "bad genes?" Your subjective opinion on what makes something good or bad does not count.

>genetic information that was not suitable for the society

Societies are not formed because of the races of people that live in them. They are the culminations of hundreds of years of history; there is no genetic blueprint for societal organization. For instance, the Germanic peoples became incredibly different from each other politically despite having very similar genetics. From the Dutch to the British, hell, just from Austrians to Germans there are large differences.

Genetics simply cannot explain societal formations. This is assigning to genetics things that are beyond its control.
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>>75705073

The minorities have in-group preferences and a rejection of whites. Many whites have an out-group preference and a rejection of whites, also. It's like a football game where both sides are only passing to the same side - one side is obviously going to win. In the case of direct democracy, there's a possibility we would end up absolutely flooding the country with non-whites and ending up with something resembling the Middle-East or Africa in demography, societal conditions, and means of government.

While that is a democratic outcome, I don't see any value in it.
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>>75706414
>The minorities have in-group preferences and a rejection of whites

You are assigning opinions and animus to an entire group of individuals, whom you know nothing about, based on incredibly spurious reasoning. There is nothing - no study, no research, no peer-reviewed literature - to suggest "non-whites" have "in-group preferences" hard-wired into them. If "whites," who up until the last century were just as racist as everyone else in the world can suddenly overcome racism to the extent that anti-racism is suddenly the problem, then that signals that there is no such thing as hard-wiring of race relations at all.

Also, you're advocating "playing" human relations like it was a zero-sum game and you can only either win or lose. This is incredibly dangerous as you will necessarily advocate for the destruction of people innocent of the things you claim in going after your imagined enemy.
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>>75706414

well you didnt actually anwser my question.
You dont seem to support democracy , simply because you wouldnt approve of the diffrent opinions the people in your culture might have

it seems to me like we might end up going in circles because you forgot the earlier conclusions we had within this conversation about the options such a society your advocating has

I know your trying, but i dont think you will find a way inbetween authority and freedom, so your stuck in a way. It isnt a very consistant position, which is very common with facist ideologies as they have to balance out their love for their people, and their disregard for others. Which makes it impossible for them to choose between authoritarianism and slavery of their own people, and freedom to let them decide if they want to "destroy" their cultural haritage, which is allowed when you have democracy
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>>75706370

I gave the example of the "warrior gene" here: >>75693091

While uncontrolled outbursts of aggression may be desirable in some kind of tribal society, we don't want it in ours, so it is bad for the society.

Dark skin is a bad trait to have in a cold climate because it leads to vitamin D deficiency, so these are bad genes for the environment.

If you are to live in a pre-industrial cold climate, you need to have the foresight to understand why gathering for the winter, rationing, and keeping a seed crop is essential to survival. If you live in a hot climate where food grows all year round, you don't need these mental abilities. In one, people without this ability are going to die, whereas in the other, they won't.

These are just a few examples.

While the initial society is based on genetics, it will obviously deviate with time. There is however very little difference between all Germanic societies when compared with sub-Saharan African societies.

>>75706249

Trade is possible without mass immigration.
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>>75706954

Every race has an inherent in-group preference.

Only in whites has it been indoctrinated out.

It is incredibly evident.

>>75706975

They aren't the people in my culture; they are invaders.

A besieging force doesn't become part of the castle it is invading just because someone let down the drawbridge. Their say simply isn't relevant because they aren't meant to be here.
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>>75705545
France is Somalia 2.0, of course you're a nigger.
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>>75707437
Whites are statistically the least like to date/marry members of other ethnicities.
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>>75707437

i meant your own white population...
obviously, i mean you wouldnt care what i said about "them"
but what are you going to do with the ones who disagree on your side?

seems like this is a losing game, and it was a losing game when russia played it against their people, and germany played it against theirs
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>>75695232
My mom's full viet and my dad full aryan tall white, I came out with green eyes 6' and blonde hair coming out of my face.

Pretty trippy senpai.
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I'm just a betafag, but women just aren't worth the hassle. I spent my teens and twenties working on it, with nothing left to show. The inky age appropriate ones left have a bunch of kids, and tend to be look like dried leather.
I have my hand, I have my porn, so fuck it!
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>>75707597

But they're also the only race that will vote for a President Obama or Mayor Sadiq Khan.
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>>75707747
like i said, nazism main weakness is that it cant balance its inslavement of their own people (forcing whites to act in certain approved ways)
and their hate for "the others"

they cant give freedom to you or your family aslong as you have individual impulses and arent part of the big machine
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>>75707053
>the warrior gene

It's called impulse control, and it can be learned. Finns have a high rate of the so-called "warrior gene" and crime is relatively low. As it turns out, the gene is more likely to cause increased aggression if the child is in a high-stress environment such as an abusive home. We only learned that in the last few years; genetics is mostly unknown to us. We just don't understand enough about genetics to go spouting off about it and basing political theories on our very flawed ideas about it.

And the dark skin thing doesn't make much sense either. And food will not grow all year round in hot climates, winters and summers still play a role in agriculture as well as rainy seasons and dry seasons. Forward planning was exercised by all societies, even by hunter-gatherers. Traps did not set themselves, and food would not catch itself.

And if the initial society is based on genetics, and the one we have now isn't, what's the problem with accepting new people into an established society? This doesn't make any sense as a reason to exclude people.

>>75707437
>Every race has an inherent in-group preference

As a 19th century meme, yeah.
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>>75707747

This is why I said we can only push society in the direction it is willing to go.

It only in the case that the majority want a pro-white fascist government, and it's the last realistic chance, that I could consider that to be the best option.

If the choice is fascism or whites never being in charge of the country again, which turned out really well in Zimbabwe and South Africa, then the first is preferable.
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>>75708372

its just language it seems
"push" "willing to go"
just like the other aspect was estetics

not to mention the flaw in a system such as facism as i explained >>75707975

there isnt really much left here, the only thing thats left for you is being a wessle for the current whims of society it seems.
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>>75707053
What do you propose is a mass? A peninsula of at least 500 million people, who have known nothing but war and science since a man put pen to paper, receiving a trite million?

I know full well the sort of havoc a handful of zealots can bring upon this great concentration of peoples. A sordid affair of a motley crew bombing an international airport can well be measured in pounds, dollars, yens, renminbis, rubles, bullets and oceans of blood.

The simple fact remains that majority of these refugees or immigrants of opportunity are but men, who like most of us have humble hopes of a good and just life.

Whatever strings of heart you intend to play on, it is WE who are able TO END THEM, and such a sword of Damocles is not to be fiddled with.
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>>75708022

This post is highly disingenuous.

You know the difference between the African and Scandinavian winter.

The problem is accepting people who are evidently not suitable for the society. They're not going to "integrate" because the majority of them cannot. It's getting to the point where there isn't enough work for even those with an average IQ to do, let alone boatloads of IQ 70 Africans.
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>>75709246
Well you should entertain the monstrous notion that a major war is about to break out in the middle east.
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>>75708979

Those most able to leave a country are also not the least valuable to the society.

By encouraging them to come, you are making their countries worse for those who cannot leave.

You're also straining the countries they go to.

This benefits a few who can move at the expense of everyone else.
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>>75709588

Let's not use it as an excuse to destroy Europe.
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>>75709626
>This benefits a few who can move at the expense of everyone else

The irony is palpable. Flag.
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>>75709993

I bet the shop owner really benefited from those tax hikes to keep the empire going.

I bet the coal miner really benefited from an aristocrat being able to drink tea with sugar.

I bet the soldier dying on the opposite side of the world to disease really benefited from fighting for that land.
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>>75709765
Indeed. So do the Christian thing (not implying you should pimp out your daughter to shell-shocked child soldiers or anything) and try and make sure the black spot isn´t in our palm.
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>>75710525
War is stupid. I hope stupid isn´t necessary.
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>>75710574

I don't think willingly spreading the conflict to another continent instead of containing it is particularly Christian.
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>>75688518
This is the problem right here. It seems that whites are the ONLY race with social responsibility. Given the choice, educated whites will delay parenthood untill they have the means to give a child the best start in life possible.

All the shades of Shitskins simply don't care, they shit out kids without regard. It then becomes the white mans burden to feed and educate them. Fuck that noise, it's time we cut them loose and look after our own.

With our constant meddling and provision, Africa and the ME would quickly sort itself out through either war or famine. We have circumvented the natural course of things in these places and now it's coming back to bite us in the ass.
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>>75711170
It is a Gordian knot
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>>75711511
I hope all men love their children more than they love themselves.
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>>75689317

>raw numbers not percentages

hunh?
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>>75711550

Willingly allowing the conquest of Europe Islam has been attempting for centuries is insanity.
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>>75687845
>it's your fault white goyim for not having ten kids in your advanced post industrial nation, no nothing to do with the fact the state controls migration, association, dissociation, contract, speech, puhlic assembly, education.... And so on...
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>>75687845
>Your inability to get married and have white children is the biggest and arguably the sole reason to blame for the decline of numbers in the white race.
The entire point of the meme is that we live in a system that makes having children impossible/difficult/undesirable which we do.
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>>75711853
That's a naive point of view. Most cultures in the ME and Africa see children as nothing more than tools. You have 10, if 2 die big deal. They stick their kids on leaky death traps and send them to the west so they can back door in knowing full well we don't deport children.

No parent who loved their child would do this.
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I'm autistic (actually diagnosed at age 6) and half Jewish.
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>>75690028
it's not the Jews... it's industrial society and technology, the very things people here are addicted to. Jews just happen to thrive in such an environment
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>>75712083

would you bother ending the discussion with me by saying your (potentially last comment) on >>75708729
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>>75688664
Damn, you're really projecting if you actually think people here think that because they are white they are entitled.
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"White genocide" doesn't exist, white people aren't going anywhere

Live your life the way that makes you happy, you're not obligated to have kids to save a race that's not dying out
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>>75712372
Spotted the kike :')
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>>75712083
This is very true.

OTOH

Willingly shedding the blood of innocents who want literally (not figuratively) nothing to do with what is about to go down as two totalitarian sects are about to go head to head and resolve a theological dispute as old the very faith they purport to uphold is... cruel.

We have freedom of speech and thereby freedom of conviction here in the West.
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>>75712370
That being the case then we should mobilize for total war.
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>>75708729

Society can have the potential to go in multiple directions.

Regarding immigration, the three main categories that people are willing to consider are:

1) completely open borders as soon as possible

2) the current state of high, ever increasing immigration

3) extremely limited immigration, eg: Australian style points based system

Given these three choices, number 3 is the only one I can support. I can invent a fourth choice, but it's pointless.

Politics can only ever be a case of choosing the lesser evil.
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>>75713180

Why do you think this is a religious war? Are you retarded? This is a civilizational war. Do you like western lifestyle and values? Then you have to side with the west and expel all non-westerners who will not assimilate.
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>>75713180

We must do what is right in the long term, not what feels good now.
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>>75694903
basednigga
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>>75714186
What are you, the fucking borg?
>>75714239
And tomorrow you may be dead.
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>>75713840

well that i can agree with, but ouer disagreement is on another point, if you actually allow society to make their choice regardless of your opinion or if you want to force them because of your esthetic choices

im obviously a clear supporter for a system that actually lets as you put it "society go in multiple directions"

while you keep saying it, you seem to be focused on one direction
so democracy and choice is thrown out of the window

its a very similar style of thinking as religious people have when it comes to god
"do as you want, within my rules"
facism always gives me a real sense of cognitive disonance
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>>75714727
For the love of Odin, learn to spell while drunk.
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>>75688289
Same here
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>>75714727

Their choice is not valid because the society is subverted.
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>>75714650

You're outta line, the entire world benefitted from the west. I'm not letting it be destroyed because of some atheistic pursuit of non-interventionism.

The west was founded on Grecco-Roman traditions. If you let these non-whites in, they will make the west non-western by forcing their culture, lifestyle, and values on the rest of us. They must submit to our laws, culture, and lifestyle or they must be expelled and destroyed.
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>>75687845
Taxing resources away from whites and handing them over to browns and blacks to breed with has quite a lot to do with it.
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>>75714727

You're fucking retarded. Immigrants must adopt the culture and values of te nation they move to otherwise they will not care about the country, will hate it and the people, and would work to change if. One culture must be dominant otherwise there will always be conflict.
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>>75716218

ah, well you see its a circlejerk, its subverted according to you

thats not democracy, and im sure you would have noticed the mistake in the logic if the leftist said the same thing about who gets to vote and who doesnt
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>>75716225
B-but anon.. they are already submitting to our excellence at war, the finesse of our warriors, the calculations of our economists, the eloquence of our lawyers, the adroitness of the filmmakers and so and so forth ..

the only real threat comes from within
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>>75716534

you clealy have not seen the past posts in this convo, i dont expect you to be able to understand what we are talking about

we are talking about the whites, what to do with those who disagree
which is the main problem of facism, its inability to balance the love for its people (by giving them the ability to choose freely) and the hate for the out-group

so they end up enslaving their own people at the expense of ideals one leader holds, or an elite.
Authoriterians are the same across the political spectrum when it comes to this paradox, no matter how good their intentions are.
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>>75687845
You fucking idiots

>population increasing
"Overpopulation. What about the childrenhurrdurr
> population decreasing
"Oh no we gun go extinct"
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>>75717726

800 million Europeans, including Turks and other questionable Europeans.

170 million white European American. Canada and Australia.

Let's say 1 billion Europeans in the world.

China, alone, had 1.5 billion people. One Asian country. One.

India, alone, has over 1 billion people. Alone.

Nigeria is projected to have over 1 billion people in a few decade. One African country. Alone.

There are only 1 billion white people on the whole planet, and they have to share their countries with non-white immigrants. This "us white people shouldn't have kids because of overpopulation" meme is a Jewish trick to get Europeans to have even less kids. Stop falling for it.
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>>75717174

If you spend decades teaching whites to hate themselves and love other races, then I don't think that's an ideal environment for democracy.

I would allow the Left to use the same logic, eg: patriarchy subverts democracy, however, their philosophy is a few decades old and has little to no evidence it is based in reality or can possibly work in the way they claim.

I am going further back and using concepts that would make sense from an evolutionary perspective, for example: in-group preference. The Left starts out from a flawed position of equality, eg: I think men and women are "equal" so they should have equal representation, and anything else is wrong. They can't engage with data that may suggest men and women are not equal because they disagrees with their starting point that they must presume is true.
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It's funny, learning international law has actually rationalized the term "white genocide" for me
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>>75718356

too bad that arguments from biology still work in their favor if they knew what they talked about

>men are generally more agressive
>women have had limited political power in the past
>there have been wars, hence started by men

its not a hard thing to do, and its totally allowed by your standards
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>>75687953

I'm Indian. Which side of the melanin compass do I stand closer to? Or am I the middle?
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>>75718356

as for equality, it isnt a natural concept (as in made by features we have from nature) but a social one, so everyone who knows what they are talking about would never use nature as an example, but rather past societies that have worked on egaliterian principles

this is more of a bonus comment, as it has nothing to do with ouer discussion, im not here to convince you of an idea, but rather criticise a spesific idea, not to replace it, that you can do on your own (this is what people who support individual thinking do)
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>>75718960

You stand on the Indian side. You aren't white or black. You're Indian.

Besides, we shouldn't really be speaking in a general race term, we should be looking at it by an ethnicity standpoint, and ethnicity has to be by blood and birth. Even if an immigrant was born and raised in a country, he should never e seen as equal to a native.
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>>75687845
If i could find a willing girl who looks like OP's pic i would be in the suburbs tomorrow eating chik fil a and watching cartoons
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>>75718693

They don't do that.

All these things are merely a byproduct of socialisation in their speculations.

Patriarchy makes men aggressive, not biology.

They need to do this to justify equity; for them, there cannot be biological explanations for any phenomenon because then they have no legitimate reason to interfere.
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>>75718356
yo bro, im an equal opportunity hater
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>>75719186

I suppose that answer will do.

I disagree with your second point tho (the equal part). While i agree that ethnicity is by blood, I don't think an immigrant should necessarily be seen as worse to a native. Comparing a hard working Chinese man to a trashy white American, personally I'd take the Chinese person any day. Of course, I'm not rationalizing allowing mass immigration just because a few are good. Rather, I think immigration should be limited to the best of the immigrant pool and no more. The fact is is that most Indians are arrogant racist retards. But then a few who come to US are doing good. People like them should be allowed to come, and it should be easier for just them. However, for the rest, standards should still be high enough that they'd have to be super lucky to come to USA
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>>75719334

>Lol patriarchy makes men aggressive

not the testosterone levels? hmm
Its only social when its about you, but biological when its about others, cool

please dont go full conspiracy, here i was thinking we where talking about science...

owell, i guess we are done here
as the only reason i talked to you for so long was that i was under the impression that you werent like the others
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>>75719619

>Patriarchy makes men aggressive, not biology.

That is their position, not my own.

I think it is most likely biological, because it makes evolutionary sense.

Aggression isn't even an inherently negative trait, it can be constructive or destructive depending on how it is used.
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>>75719862

i have never heared that position , it makes little sense too.

But nevertheless my point is simply that you can use this trait of aggressive males to justify them not being in positions of power where they can act upon their agression in a militaristic manner

hence the whole underlying argument of yours being easily twisted to fit another side
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>if an aboriginal woman ran away from her husband, when she was caught she became the common property of her pursuers
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