I want to learn some quality self-defense. Where do I start pol?
Aikido then JKD then muay thai.
Coupled with some strength training, you'll also need some meditation for self control lest you kill someone trying to mug you.
>>75624167
Local gun store.
Krav maga is the only practical self-defense. It teaches to shoot and stab and kick em in the nuts
>>75624272
Honestly, I would do BJJ and Krav Maga. You have grapples and ground game covered with BJJ and then punches and dirty tricks with Krav Maga.
>>75624444
Judo works well in place of BJJ (Brazillian Ju Jitsu)
>>75624272
This. I'd recommend tai chi for the meditation. There's also martial tai chi which is neat and essentially the same as the meditation moves.
>>75624313
this
>>75624167
Traditional Karate is best. No need for the fancy Wing Chun shit, take down your attacker in 1 or 2 blows, let him pay his hospital bills.
learn to shoot a gun and get good at it
>Point end of firearm at nigger
>Pull trigger
>>75624167
By not asking /pol/ and looking shit up on actually credible sources. If you HAVE to get your information on a fucking anime image board, go to
>>>/fit/
>>75624444
The philosophies behind what I mentioned is worth the slightly less efficient fighting style, especially aikido which won't even hurt your opponent if they've got something to land on. I'd rather OP learned something relatively peaceful.
That being said quad fours overrides my singles, although 272 isn't entirely powerless.
>>75624512
Tai chi is... Uh learn mindfulness first.
>>75624614
>implying that /fit/ knows how to fight
They are more inclined to do a brah-splits, trick people into GOMAD + SS and complain that fighting = cardio so no gainz.
That board has become pretty useless aside from the sticky.
>>75624167
You are an American, if you are actually interested in self defense, buy a hand gun. Marshal arts and all that bullshit takes years to properly learn and use on the streets, not to mention if your attacker is armed and you aren't, you are completely fucked.
If your state does not allow you to purchase a firearm you want, you could theoretically go across state borders to a local pawn shop or gun show.
>>75624167
Buy a gun.
The Army teaches us MAC, which is a mix of multiple styles, and it works pretty well.
>>75624707
I've just been in a few fights where it starts as one on one, then the moment they are losing, their bros jump in.
I only know Muay Thai. Unfortunately in one encounter, I had stopped one guy but the other 3 got me to the ground and I was powerless. Knowing some effective disabling techniques from Krav Maga would have saved me some injuries.
However, I see where you're coming from in terms of mindset.
>>75624812
>Marshal arts and all that bullshit takes years to properly learn and use on the streets
That's not true, someone who knows Proper CQB techniques can teach you shit you can use within a day.
>>75624402
This.
The Jews invented a martial art where you Jew them through fighting dirty and taking advantage of your enemy's weaknesses.
You can't make that shit up.
All other martial arts are inherently flawed because they have "muh honor systems" and bullshit like that. There's no time for honor when you're in a life or death situation.
>>75624272
>aikido
>jkd
No just no
>>75624444
Quads honestly confirm. I am a Krav instructor. What Krav is weak in, BJJ covers and what BJJ is weak in Krav covers. I think it is truly a God-tier combo when it comes to self defense.
Do it.
Fuck. Crazy how /pol/ is the place that such matters can be discussed with civility and yet /fit/ and /asp/ are off limits. If you mention Krav there, you are WRONG no matter what.
Take jiu jitsu for three years or so until you're not an idiot on the ground, after that it has a real diminishing return. After that time take boxing because it's relatively quick to learn and every fight starts on the feet, if by chance you get taken down you'll feel okay there too
>>75624272
If you're doing JKD or Akido i would fucking beat your ass so easily
>>75624167
I took Tae Kwon Do and I felt like I got meme'd on. Worthless.
>>75625840
Again, philosophy > pure kick ass
BJJ and krav sounds like they're designed to raise sociopaths. If you've watched Bebop, you won't even care if JKD is a little weak.
>>75625684
Care to elaborate finnbro?
>>75624167
Kick boxing.
>>75624167
Krav Maga, Judo, Combat Sambo
>>75624272
Aikido will fuck up your knees
A gun and a knife trumps any hand to hand martial art by a lot.
>>75624598
Never knew that in order to be a real traditionalist man you have to be a faggot with gelled up chemical haircut.
>>75624167
Buy a quality gun.
![a15c721d7760e17cce51ea39d533893b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rFSMGlm.jpg "a15c721d7760e17cce51ea39d533893b[1].jpg")
/asp/ here
BJJ purple belt + 3 years of boxing
>>75624167
NRA
All these cunts saying krav maga and aikido are dumb cunts, either sign up at a boxing gym or muay thai gym
If you want to learn how to grappple either wrestling or BJJ. If you go do some shit meme self defense don't be surprised when you get your teeth knocked out by someone who actually knows how to throw a punch
>>75624313
surprised this wasn't the first reply.
martial arts are a bad joke at no moment in your life you will have to fight 1v1 with an unarmed opponent.
>>75625942
You did, some MMA fighter utilize a few of the kicks but other than that it's shit.
>>75626531
>at no moment in your life you will have to fight 1v1 with an unarmed opponent
this
Watch this video
https://youtu.be/SGpDVCkhtD4
He answers this question better than anyone here could
>>75626480
Boxing destroys your vision, nose and brain. Krav Maga is used by IDF and Mossad. Makes you think
>>75626654
:^)
any faggot ITT talking about grappling has never been in an actual street fight. take up boxing and don't waste your time with nuthugging martial arts wannabees at their $300 a month gyms.
>>75624167
AR15.com
The best defense is a scary looking rifle.
>>75624167
Avoid traditional martial arts. They teach you pre-defined movements for pre-defined attacks.
I'd advice you Kajukenbo or Kombatan because they teach you striking, grappling and using weapons like batons or knives (and fighting against them barehanded). They have some level of memorizing moves but it's mostly repetitive stuff until it gets imprinted in your muscle memory.
Also kickboxing/muay thai/boxing is good if you find the right gym for it (avoid gyms that disregard safety or those who urge you into sparring with a partner on the first month).
>>75626654
Krav Maga is a scam. You can pay a bunch of euros and get a black belt and a teaching license in 2 weeks.
>>75627253
Steven Crowder pls
>>75627291
My ex wife is quarter Jewish Russian Israeli, I got Krav Maga training via connections through her Mossad relative. Can't say it's a scum.
>>75624272
>aikido
Why are you trying to get OP killed?
>>75625171
>dirty fighting
We live in a dirty world m8
>>75626166
No doubt after spending the majority of your practice sucking off men in dresses.
>>75627837
The system itself is not a scam.
Its comercialization is. Like if you got connections then great. If you go to a gym and they teach Krav Maga 90% sure you're getting scammed and won't learn anything.
If you know Krav Maga from a reliable source go to a random gym that teaches it and you'll see by yourself. I mainly saw this kind of scams in Spain and France but many people in forums say it happens the same in the US and other places.
>>75626654
That's not an adult's foot, unless Quintin also had a proportional midget fetish.
>>75628069
>>75626480
>>75626166
I'm only after it as a basis, start with aikido because it's relatively peaceful and move on to JKD which was made for street fighting. My idea is aikido has enough philosophy to prevent turning people into sociopaths, because that's totally what society needs more of.
Seems the knee fuck actually has merit though, so I don't know.
I've already admitted BJJ and krav are probably stronger, although I smiled at the boxer saying he'll punch my teeth in. It's a boxer thing to be arrogant isn't it?
>>75624167
Always pack a big weapon
>>75628341
>relatively peaceful
>philosophy
Please tell me that you're merely pretending to be this cucked.
>>75624313
Close.
Backpage, it's the craigslist of guns, a lot of states have unrestricted private sales. Keep that shit on the DL.
>>75624167
Don't be a faggot op, American wrestling and boxing is the way to go. Also get a gun and go to the range. Anything else is autism.
>>75626531
>you will [never] have to fight 1v1 with an unarmed opponent.
I wouldn't pick a fight with someone missing arms. That would be bad PR. It would be plastered over the news.
>>75624167
start with basic boxing training for learning the rythm of the fight, that gives you an immediate edge over people who never trained
Do some Judo, wrestling, Jiujitsu, BJJ for groundfighting and making sure that you can survive once you are on the ground
Taekwondo, Kickboxing or muai Thai for legwork
You can combine all that with MMA training for the ring, and Krav MAGA for the street.
Do some HEMA for fun (also can be really useful if you know how to use improvised weapons in a efficient way)
Seek out some good self defense instructors for the right mindset
There are some good ones on youtube too.
And because you live in the US: get a fucking gun and a conceal carry permit
>>75628466
>peace is cuck
I fucking hate you, you're a nigger, atheist or Muslim, aren't you? People like you need deportation.
>>75628368
who is this erection entrapper
>>75628368
Wew lad
>>75628747
>I need to waste my time learning techniques that aren't even practical just so I can learn humility
>>75628341
Aussie chicks usually have 38-39 feet - awesome looking, yet not big, but a lot of girls in Europe and US have 36 size. My fav.
>>75628196
There is only one Krav Maga association and you should only go there.
>>75624167
>>>/asp/ is the best place to get started
no need to thank me
>>75629127
An odd board to be promoting fraudulent Jew martial arts. Might as well go with Shaolin-Do while you're at it.
>>75624272
>Chinese/Jap meme shit
the only Asian MA worth learning are Judo, JJ (really though just do Brazilian its better) and Muay Thai .
Everything other than this is a meme, except maybe a bit of Karate since its been done successfully before
>>75625708
>I am a Krav instructor
Hello Chaim
>>75628874
Notice how is forearm is twice the size of her calf? Nah dude, that's a youngish teenage girl, maybe 13 or 14. Deserves to go into the pedowood folders, Quinton should go down with Dan when the rope comes.
>>75628854
You're an atheist, got it. You realise your ways can last maybe 3 or 4 generations until we're back to thinking robbery and muggings are just social Darwinism?
What's the timeline of throwing fireballs in Muay Thai?
krav maga
>>75626654
Orthodox boxing is the most useful in a street fight
You really don't want the fight to go to the ground if it can be avoided cause that's a good way to get your skull smashed against the concrete
>>75625042
>I've just been in a few fights where it starts as one on one, then the moment they are losing, their bros jump in.
Niggers or Abbos?
I'll never understand these fucks.
>OH SHIT OUR BRO IS LOSING, BETTER MAKE IT AN UNFAIR FIGHT WITH 5v1
>LOL U GOT WRECKED WEAK FAGGOT
Fucking pussies.
>>75624167
Gunstore then kickboxing (or just boxing.)
Don't bother with the Asian shit if you are not Asian. Use what has worked for the entire history of man, hitting people really hard in the throat.
>>75629308
No, I have enough sense not to commit manslaughter over petty thievery bullshit. If you need to take classes to help you not be an asshole, then I sincerely feel for you.
>>75629508
>hitting people really hard in the throat
Good way to end up with a manslaughter charge
You really want to avoid killing your opponent
>>75629555
Your pagan ancestors felt differently.
>>75629557
Okay punching them firmly but nonlethally in the throat.
Self defence freaks can't take a joke.
>>75626290
There's nothing more manly than displaying your dominance over mother nature and keeping yourself well groomed, Ivan.
>>75629659
I think you need to get your money back from your McDojo. Your shitposting is rather aggressive, and nowhere near peaceful.
>>75624167
Study several and different schools and assemble a fighting style based on your personality and body type.
There's no 'magic bullet' martial art that will be perfect for every situation. Learn several with some degree of competency. A general fund of knowledge regarding your limits and the limits of the average person's biology will translate to a distinct advantage, and a variety of fighting styles will mean you're versatile and adaptable.
The biggest problem with traditional martial arts isn't the fighting style, it's the fighters. You see it all over this thread: People who took their training as gospel and did not adapt the styles to their bodies. Techniques as taught will always need to be adapted to fit your physique, and most people follow textbook forms and wonder why their balance is fucked or their kicks are slow or their punches lack power.
Learn the principle behind the technique; WHY it works, not just what it looks like. Understand the biology of it, and adapt it to you.
>>75629711
It's hard to discern joke from reality with the amount of fedoras in here
>>75629717
>not rocking the #2 buzzcut and being clean shaven at all times
>>75629308
Quentin is alright. We all like elegant feet down there.
>13 or 14
Some chick are elegantly skinny. Far right is my ex. 22 yo old grown ass woman
>>75629366
Look up Krav Maga. You won't be on the ground with that.
>>75624167
Learn from nipon masters the way of the samurai.
>>75630174
They have nu-males in Russia?
>>75628492
mmmmm block communist walther knockoff
>>75630174
She's hot
Buy a gun.
Read (get off torrent):
"Get tough" by Fairbairn
"Kill or get killed" by Rex Applegate
Carl Cestari videos on combatives are good if you can find them.
>>75630203
Jew Maga is just "kick guy in the balls then gouge out his eyes and finish by stomping on the throat"
>>75630765
You really need to join a dojo if you're serious about learning to fight
There's no way to teach yourself via books and YouTube videos you need hands on instruction and practice
>>75626385
yeah cool ignore the australian
>>75630857
>dojo
>serious
kek
>>75624167
Op try and find a military unarmed combat course and get into an advanced class if you can down the road. All the standard stuff you come across is generally made for competition fighting and not actual military combat. Krav Maga is pretty good and close but you have to find a combat course if you can. Basicly it's the mindset and methods that are taught that are the big difference. It'll train you to disable or kill with your hands and focuses on doing it as fast as posible. Rolling around ground fighting is good to know but in reality you'll get stomped by opponents friends if you are there too long. I trained in a big variety of styles for 17 years and then got into military unarmed combat. It was very interesting as I had pretty much all the techniques dialled at the start but the whole way of fighting was very different. Lots of knife and cqc gun work also which usually is never covered in standard courses
>>75630870
I wish I could take up orthodox boxing but my head is too big
A striking art is a must have in any fight
>>75624167
look up boxing videos on youtube and learn to throw some combos. take some bjj classes. start skipping rope and running for speed and endurance. don't be a pussy.
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>>75624272
>aikido
please dont listen to this man op, you'll get your ass kicked trying to grab peoples arms and flip them
just learn muay thai and jui jitsu
![1414569348874[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dRDRYnj.jpg "1414569348874[1].jpg")
![1410862753318[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/aIDl4n2.png "1410862753318[1].png")
OR LEARN TO SHOOT
>>75631170
they need to learn to put magazines in first...
>>75624167
up your butt and around the corner.
>>75629555
You rob, you die.
>>75630806
It's not duel, it's a way to eliminate your opponent. Why should I care?
>>75630947
Don't. It's fucks up your sight, nose and brain. No boxer is healthy at the age of 60.
>>75630342
What the fuck does it even mean? Having glasses makes you a nu-male??
>>75630526
She is. Thinking about getting back with her. Wtf I am 25 and already divorced after 2 years of marriage, 7 girlfriends in the past. Relationships are like some horsecruxes - really splits parts of your soul if you commit.
>>75624167
Buy a gun
Learn to use gun
Learn judo and muay thai for situations you cannot use gun
>>75624167
first of all you should stop being such a massive faggot since this would greatly reduce the necessity of said self defense because youd avoid being lynched by a mob of rednecks or muzzies
>>75631416
>It's not duel, it's a way to eliminate your opponent. Why should I care?
Because you'll end up in prison
Unless we're talking some hypothetical scenario or the guy is actually out to kill you
Most bar fights are just a few seconds of guys throwing punches then it gets broken up and everyone goes their seperate way
No need to turn it into a fucking gladiator match
>>75628665
kek
>>75631603
You don't need a fucking martial art for a bar fight, you nonce. You're going to be too drunk to remember anything anyway.
>>75631603
Not all bar fights all like this. Not all fights like this at all.
>>75625157
Without proper mental and physical conditioning you can easily harm yourself or harm someone more than you want.
Though if you want to go only for the kill it will work. You don't need that much training if you always try to kill or severely cripple your opponent.
>>75631603
What if it's 1 vs 2 , 3 or more ?
"i thought muh life was in danger" the self defense law is cucked in my country but i think you're fine in burgerland.
>>75625171
I don't think you ever practised martial arts. Honour is only for honourable opponents. On the streets you just hit them until they stop moving.
>>75624167
Buy a gun and practice.
>>75629860
This man knows it. Matters not the style but the fighter.
The best martial art by far is the gun. I don't care how skilled the chink screeching HIYAAAA is. Fists lose to bullets.
>>75632518
True. If he wants to fight you and not just kill - no cries, just a hit to the back of the head and some stomping after you fall. Though martial arts don't help in such a situation too.
People so easy to break.
>>75632735
Very true, Ivan. Very true.
>>75626629
This guy is some kind of max test throwback to our past.
It looks like you could break an iron pipe on his head and he's just be angry.
>look up BJJ
>it's literally invented to help manlets like me fight off bigger guys
I'm signing up
>>75631603
better in prison than dead. Being in a fight just falling badly might kill you. Or when you are unconcious how do you know your opponent isn't going to kick your head?
I only have time for one sport /pol/, which one should I pick?
Tempting between BJJ and Muay Thai
>>75624596
Exactly. Karate is simple, fast and safe.
It's also a great mental exercise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx2JGRK094k
>>75632735
>People so easy to break.
I read that in this voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu4csNpMKrA
>>75633326
Only full-contact styles. They don't have shitty "uber techniques" and bullshit about chi.
Also that video is shit. Most real karate styles especially those based on Okinawan karate emphasise 'one hit - one kill' mentality.
If you came in striking distance with you enemy one of you should fall dead or crippled after a first exchange.
>>75633908
Jack hadn't slept for 24+ hours in that scene so his technique was rather sloppy.
What people basically learn in Karate is to parry a blow and counter with a face punch from their hips. If trained well that's usually enough to knock an untrained criminal scum out.
I'm a skinny weak beta manlet. is there any point in me learning self-defence or will I just look like a self conscious try-hard?
>>75634728
You can still learn to startle your opponent and then flee the scene.
Good martial arts Is also a mental training.
>>75634522
Don't know who taught you that but call him an idiot.
You are right that karate teaches a parry-attack routine but what you are describing is dumb way to fight someone. You are basically suggesting to hit the most protected part of the head. Dumb. Your attack can easily slip on the skull or you can get a hand full of his teeth. Believe me you don't want that.
Even solar plexus strikes are more effective because most people don't know how to take them right.
Hits to the balls, under the knee and side of the temple are more effective. Ideally done in succession with elbow strike to the side of the head as a finishing attack. If your opponent still moves after this stomp on his neck for good measure or break one of his arms (legs are harder to break though you can try).
In general: Strike to the joints, preferably from the side or from the back. Human bodies are less protected there.
>>75634728
You can easily learn to defend yourself. The problem is with low weight you will need to use more dangerous attacks.
So there will always be a risk of seriously crippling or killing your opponent. Because you can't afford to use more forgiving strikes - too dangerous.
>>75624444
this desu.
Would just add to go to some boxing / thai-boxing classes to get used to being punched. Krav Maga classes often lack some real sparring due to doing everything with bare fists.
>>75635154
>you can get a hand full of his teeth
Yes I know face punches are rather dangerous. What you're suggesting makes more sense if you want to play it safe.
>>75624167
I'd say kung fu, but there aren't any real teachers anymore
>>75635851
My sensei once hit me in the teeth with his elbow. It was an accident not even in sparring. I got a chipped tooth and he a nasty gash from elbow to around half length of his forearm.
>>75624167
You're in America
Buy a rifle
And use it as a club
To beat your enemies to death
>>75624167
The thing that no martial art will teach you is the concept of drilling. If you want to use ANYTHING in a streetfight, you have to drill and drill that shit. Learn how to stand, how to move the concept of distance.
I have a TKD base and although this is laughable, I did learn the mechanics of some effective kicks and how to throw punches straight.
I sound like a trenchcoat wearing fedora, but I train in my garage, half physical conditioning, half combo shadow boxing rounds with jump ropes in between. And yes, I've used what I've developed in a street fight.
>>75636039
That's nasty. To be honest I never actually punched anybody in the face or the solar plexus with full force and I'm not sure I wanna know what would happen if I do.
>>75635921
There's teachers; Shaw Brothers Kung Fu movies
>>75624167
Get a concealed weapons permit
>>75624167
I've done martial arts and stuff before, I'd say the ones that work and in order are Boxing, Wrestling, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu.
Of course it all depends on the quality of the club, some are shit. Best ones are the ones with plenty of sparring and will get you to compete.
No competitions and no sparring = shit club
>>75636725
In the face depends on there exactly you will hit and with how much force. Results from "shrugged off like it's nothing" to "blood from the nose and fall dead".
Solar plexus hits can stop breathing. We had that. You need to get the one hit under armpits and make him sit down and then stand up to restore breathing. Do it a until he starts breathing again. Cause he probably won't be able to move by himself due to shock. I once dealt with such a hit myself - very unpleasant. But I am trained and the hit wasn't that strong. In a real fight you probably won't have time so a good hit to solar plexus can even kill.
Amateur mma fighter here you have to learn bjj that's the most important thing for actual self defense the next must is Muay Thai or boxing but if you only want to learn one style it should be bjj
Furthermore get this off of /pol/ take it to /asp/
Sage goes in all fields
(except I'm on my phone)
I started with boxing and Krav maga around 4 months ago. If the teachers know their shit, I can totally recommend both, specially if you start them simultaneously. pretty good shit if you ask me
>>75638075
forgot webm
>>75624167
just buy a gun and learn to shoot and carry a knife.
The rest is nice but a waste in the real world it doesnt matter if you have 10 years of martial arts/mma/crav maga/whatever they currently sell if some dindus attack you as a group or if someone sucker punches you or if someone goes batshit with a knife no matter the training you will get fucked up.
>>75624313
Or, as we call it in our country, IKEA.
>>75624272
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>>75635921
These people are wrong please watch ufc 1-10 you can find out which styles are decent in a no rules fight they were allowed to pull hair and stuff back then
Also every one who is telling op to get a gun is 100% correct God made man but Samuel colt made men equal
>>75638108
>8108▶
>File: footwork.webm (2.81 MB, 550x450)
as awesome as this webm is, i really want to see him get knocked the fuck out while doing this wild wiggling.
>>75640412
^dis you kno
