Looks like "The Donald" is picking up new supporters in some strange places.
Why does China enjoying Trump so much, /pol/? For some reason, it makes sense to me that he would be a very admired person there, but with all the anti-China rhetoric and feuding with Chinese leaders he's taken part in, why does China love TRUMP so much? Can you explain it to me /pol/?
http://fortune.com/2016/05/30/donald-trump-popular-china/?xid=gn_editorspicks
Strength has universal appeal.
asians understand that there are inferior and superior races
they recognize the efficiency homogeneous societies achieve
believe it or not that would rather not see the rest of the world turn brown
He wants to reduce military presence in SE asia
So even the Chinese are calling him God-Emperor now? I thought that was our thing.
>>75554513
FIRST THEY TAKE OUR JOBS AND NOW THEY TAKE OUR MEMES!!!!!! WHATS NEXT OUR URINE?
>>75554513
Because Trump is the most American candidate in a long fucking time
Even bush wasn't as American as Trump is
Everyone loves Americans desu lads
>>75554513
Post yfw by 2050 everyone will be either Asian or white
Like niggers they worship the rich white businessman even if he personally fucks them over.
>>75554513
chinese also had a boner for obama
>>75554513
>Can you explain it to me /pol/?
because the chinese dont want globalist shills who will nuke them. the chinese respect people who respect themselves. they are the most racist/nationalist race on this entire fucking planet and they LOVE to see other people act just like them. That way when they destroy them, they can proudly say "we ale bettel them this lace ^_ _^"
>>75554513
>but with all the anti-China rhetoric and fueding with Chinese leaders, why does China love Trump
Do you actually think the average Chinaman gives a shit about their leaders? China is a fucking shithole. Trump is charismatic and even foreigners cling onto that.
they wont be laughing when he nukes those dog eating gooks
>>75555096
Honestly if the Chinese ever attacked us it would be pretty awesome to go to war with them desu. Like non-nuclear war if that's even possible. I want to be at Rape of Nanking Part Deux.
>>75554740
>implying 100% of American business would cease to exist in China
>>75554513
>Anti-China rhetoric
Hello, guy who's never actually heard him speak. He makes it clear that he doesn't begrudge China for taking advantage of our incompetent leaders, it's the smart thing for them to do. He's just going to stop taking it up the ass like lategame-Clinton, Bush and Obama have been.
>>75554513
Of course he's popular. Donald Trump has said he'd abandon Japan and South Korea to their own protection, that'll weaken the US's position in the east asia/pacific region of the world and make China stronger.
If you want a weaker American influence around the world and an end to American imperialism/hegemony then Donald Trump is your dream candidate.
>>75554513
Chinese people fucking hate their leaders.
>>75555245
>implying rape of nanking happened
their country would fracture before the war even started. they barely have a grip on their own country. pic somewhat related
huh
>>75554513
because no one respects weak people
>>75555417
This, plus the Chinese probably hate communism at their core because everyone does.
>>75555446
really makes you think..
#ImWithHer
fucking shills
>>75554659
>So even the Chinese are calling him God-Emperor now?
Meme magic.
It's a preemptive move by Chinese state propaganda to foster goodwill between Trump and their State because even the chinks know he's going to be president.
>>75555287
>immediately a half billion unemployed people
>still existing as a country
>>75554513
Only Chinese people that really hate him are rich, yellow skinned jews who feel their businesses threatened
>>75554513
>China has a hard-on for copying the West
>China recreates our parks and buildings all the time
>They decide to recreate Trump
>Overthrow their own government with a Chinese Trump
>Trump defeats China by getting them to defeat themselves
>Hate blacks
>Hate mexicans
>Hate muslims
>Hate commies
They're basically just like trump supporters
>>75555736
prove me wrong.
If Donald Trump is going to start charging "protection money" other countries will decline to pay and then tell us we can't have bases in their countries anymore.
What then?
Without the bases we're going to be a lot weaker in influence and military capability.
>>75554513
Trump will MAKE CHINA RELEVANT AGAIN.
>>75555736
nah, it's probably that nignog from world star... the one who makes all of the interracial threads that get deleted now... so he's here ... and his ineffective bants are showing.
I actually don't understand this. Trump is highly critical of china and their economic policies that prop themselves up at america's expense. Why would they be pro-trump? By all rights they should favor the cuckservatives
>>75556345
Because it's no fun beating up a cripple.
>>75556185
prove me wrong
who would you vote for?
donald trump, hillary clinton or bernie sanders?
im willing to bet that youll say hillary, pointing out she has a few minor flaws, but that she is by far the greatest. then youll quickly add ''although bernie is ok too though.'' then youll throw an ad hominem or two at those who support donald trump.
to answer your question: USA is not the worlds policemen. who gives a single shit if you lose a military base near japan: they wont declare war, and china will have enough trouble with russia. not that it ever will happen in this day and age.
>>75554513
This generation of Chinese have been raised to believe that success in business is the same thing as human goodness. And all Chinese worship power reflexively.
>>75556178
hey egypt... i need your opinion on something
https://youtu.be/vLXOkZtAkPw
https://youtu.be/vLXOkZtAkPw
https://youtu.be/vLXOkZtAkPw
>>75554513
Obama has been setting up a fake cold war nobody wants and it's an open question whether Trump would continue it.
>>75554513
They are just trying to copy the Japs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tXv_PJPycA
>>75554513
>Hey other countries like this guy running for president.
>He must he an evil nazi.
>>75556345
How about you read the fucking thread?
>>75556185
They would never decline
ever
they know the cost of no protection is higher
it's business folks
>>75554513
Chinks and Slavs both respect power. Which is why obama is having such a hard time
>>75554669
http://www.voanews.com/content/chinese-scientists-grow-teeth-from-urine/1712913.html
too late
>>75556345
Despite what the foreigners on /pol/ tell you and what they act like, the world is absolutely and unequivocally OBSESSED with America and American culture and American media. The world is watching Trump fight against all odds to make his country great again.
Who doesn't love an underdog? We're all human beings at the end of the day. What Trump is proposing pulls on the heartstrings of everyone who believes in fairness and justice. He only wants to help his country. A true patriot.
It's not like Obama has helped out these other countries. The only people who benefit from the NWO/globalist agenda/trade deals/whatever you want to call it are the wealthy elite.
>>75556479
Honestly, nobody is really that appealing. Trump wanting to abandon our current bases though is a dealbreaker for me.
>USA is not the worlds policemen
No, but us maintaining Hegemony/influence over the likes of you keeps us relatively stronger.
Abandoning our Hegemony will make us weak.
I like a few of Bernie Sanders ideas, I like him personally, and out of the 3 I would probably vote for him, but hesitatingly because I don't think he'll keep us as strong as we need to be, and I'm hedging my bet that his college plan won't go through. Medicare for all.. eh.. a single payer system is needed to drive down costs, as right now our health care costs are too high because of the privatized for profit insurance system. Hospitals are ripping off insurance, and insurance is ripping off us. We're the losers of this system.
Although Medicare is woefully mismanaged and needs serious reform to be more cost effective.
>>75556423
Says someone who has clearly never beat up a cripple before.
Because they've seen what Free Market Capitalism reform does to improve your country. That's part of what DJT stands for
>>75556625
omg, how desperate is she
>>75554513
Asians always like a strong leader who shits on foreigners that ruin everything
Asians are white people with yellow skin (Slavic people, but Slavs are still white)
>>75557046
China is very protectionist
>>75554513
Well, considering how much US property the chinks are buying, it makes sense to be enthusiastic about a real estate guy becoming president.
Either property tanks or property flies, they are in the market for more money.
>>75556906
>Although Medicare is woefully mismanaged and needs serious reform to be more cost effective.
In what way? Medicare is the single most cost effective program the government has ever done.
>oddly
He's got traditional, fuck the poor, fuck the rabble rouser ideals, and he's never said anything bad about the Chinese as a people.
Why wouldn't they like him?
They don't want gays or whiny liberals, either.
>>75555446
Hillary supporters use "the end of American imperialism" as a negative thing and still they have the moral high ground, you can't explain that.
>>75557166
>dog eating gook
>human
pick one
>>75555446
America will not allow china to have the power in the south china sea that china wants. Trump would definitely not let it happen, I think that's why china is trying to do it so quickly. They know Obama is a weak pr president
>>75557400
what a piss poor get
>>75557255
is it? I always hear about fraud and waste within the system.
I just think a single payer system will drive costs down just like it has in other countries, our current system is extorting us. We're paying multiple times the amount other people pay for the same drugs and procedures. That's fucked up.
>>75557410
I'm not a Hillary supporter but I think that ending our Hegemony will weaken us and end our status as a superpower, it'll probably also make our economy weaker and our currency will probably lose reserve currency status to the Yuan or Euro.
>>75556828
>>75554513
>anti-China rhetoric
He loves China. He has said it multiple times.
>>75557791
based on what?
>>75558568
Our military presence in bases around the world is a large part of our influence and Hegemony, along with the alliance treaties that allow us to have those bases.
Trumps an idiot thinking the bases and troops are for the hosting country's protection, they're not, it's for us being able to flex our muscle wherever and whenever we damn well please.
We could have 10's of thousands of troops anywhere we want within days rather than weeks that it'd take any other country to do the same feat.
We can't maintain that force projection without the bases.
>>75554513
Excellent.
>>75558914
Trump doesn't want to abolish NATO he just wants the countries we protect to pay their fair share. And if they don't, then we pull out.
I don't know what huffingtonpost bullshit articles you've been reading, but he talks about this point constantly.
>>75558914
>>We could have 10's of thousands of troops anywhere we want within days rather than weeks that it'd take any other country to do the same feat.
Aircraft carriers
>>75556565
I've seen the video posted on here, but I've never watched it till now.
Of course it's a rap video with some idiot mumbling lyrics.
>>75556565
>Modern day arab colonial egypt is white
>Copts(descended from pharaohs) are white
>DNA tests for pharaohs are overwhelmingly white
>!نحن كنا ملوك
>>75559091
>And if they don't, then we pull out
and lose the bases, thanks for agreeing with me.
>>75559093
Weeks, rather than days.
Bases around the world mean days. We could put 30000 troops in North Korea tomorrow if we wanted, with those aircraft carriers and LHA's and LHD's bringing reinforcements within weeks.
>>75554513
He's rich as fuck and he's an alpha.
>>75555446
>has said he'd abandon Japan and South Korea to their own protection,
[citation needed]
He said he'd ask them to contribute to their protection more. And if they balk, he'd allow Japan at least to build their own military up, including nukes.
How is that abandoning them? If anything, allowing them to stop being dependent on America so much strengthens them and helps hold the tide against China for that much longer.
>>75559932
>We could put 30000 troops in North Korea tomorrow if we wanted,
But we won't, and we're not ever going to Ever. So why hold back the South? Either they pay a bit more for their defense or we turn them loose. It's a win win for everyone.
>>75556185
>has never heard of sea basing.
>>75557255
>Medicare
>cost effective
The Department of Education makes money.
>>75560711
It's a lose for us, because we no longer have thousands of troops on China's doorstep.
Military posturing is an important part of negotiating.
How we going to negotiate better deals with China if our military can't come into the equation?
>>75554513
>socially conservative, nationalist nation supports socially conservative, nationalist candidate
Gee, who would have fucking thought?
>>75559932
Marines can drop an infantry battalion anywhere in the world in 48 hours; with their own air, armor, artillery, and logistical support to last them 30 days of combat without resupply. The MAGTF is a wonderful thing, anon.
>>75559415
So start acting white.
>>75554513
Respect for strongmen i guess
>>75554590
Yep trump makes an example on how to be successful without giving a shit
>>75554513
>dat cartoon
pic related
>>75561007
Weelll to be fair it seems north korea could be campaign that aligns US and china
>>75554659
IT'S HAPPENING!!!
>>75557791
>>75558914
people felt america was en empire in decline before reagan too
>>75555245
>Rape of Nanking Part Deux.
Oh man
>Releasing a disciplined army of virgin japanese otaku on Nanking
I can't wait. Maybe that'll shut them both up for good.
>>75554513
Trump is also very popular with Indians and Hindus & Sikhs specifically
> 'He’s our hero': Hindu nationalists rally for Donald Trump in India
>On a hot afternoon in Delhi, a group of men sat around a fire chanting Hindu mantras.
Idols of Shiva and Hanuman watched on as the group performed a havan puja, a ceremony of worship which they hoped would bring good fortune for the subject of their prayers.
Someone had printed out a picture of his face and thumbed vermillion on his forehead, in a sign of reverence.
Alongside the incense, offerings and Hindu gods, he looked somewhat out of place, but the photograph was instantly recognizable: it was Donald Trump.
Vishnu Gupta, leader of the Hindu Sena, the organisation that arranged the ceremony, said that the puja was one of many events the group was organising to gather support for Trump in India, and – he hoped – help the controversial Republican candidate win the presidency.
Who supports Donald Trump? The new Republican center of gravity
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A rally would soon follow, and demonstrations outside the US embassy in Delhi urging Indian-origin Americans to vote for Trump will be on the menu for coming months, Gupta said. “He’s our hero,” he said. “We are praying for Trump because he is the only one who can help mankind.”
Gupta’s motives for supporting Trump were simple: “He’s the only many who can put an end to Islamic terrorism.”
Trump’s hardline stance on Muslim immigration to the US and his rhetoric against Isis and other terror organisations seem to have caught the imagination of the young Hindu fringe leader, who has grown up in a political climate where communal strife between Hindus and the Muslim minority has led to violent clashes on both sides.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/13/donald-trump-india-hindu-supporters-new-delhi
>>75554513
Trump did say that China loves him.
>>75561525
Well I look at "Great" Britain, and see what was once the most powerful empire in the world and now I like at what a cuck state they are now having lost all their holdings, and lost their post WWII superpower status. I don't want that for the US, I want to remain a superpower.
Remember the 1990's when we were the sole superpower in the world by a long shot? That was good times. Now China and Russia are trying to maneuver with us because we're no longer clearly so much more powerful than them.
>>75554513
The same reason why /pol/ likes Farage, Le Pen, The Filippino Trump, etc.
>>75558914
you forgot
>and end our status as a superpower, it'll probably also make our economy weaker and our currency will probably lose reserve currency status to the Yuan or Euro.
Asking for a country to pay their share does not make bases go Kaput. One could also postulate that asking for money will lead to ww3. Doesn't mean it's true.
But what about the rest of that nonsense you failed to have any reason for saying?
>>75563601
>ask for money or we pull out
>they say no
>we pull out
>????
we lose the bases in that situation.
>>75561732
He's probably a hero to poos because he dislikes Muzzies.
>>75555915
they would revert back to hard maoism
>>75564069
Or, we just go Best Korea with the bases and refuse to contribute to the local economy then tell them to fuck off with anything not directly related to our interests.
>>75564791
>Or we show our "pay up or we pull out" threat to be a bullshit hustle that it really is and lose all credibility.
>>75565235
Yeah because hanging out on their clay not doing a damn bit of anything for them won't be the same.
>>75565429
Everything we do there currently is in our own national interest. It's all about putting China on the defensive and keeping them in check, along with North Korea.
Why do you think we do these massive joint drills that North Korea shits its pants about every year?
>>75565727
Ok? I was thinking of Australia, but who cares if we leave Soutn Korea?
>>75565891
I do, because it weakens our position in the eastern hemisphere.
>>75566245
So?
>>75566427
How is making ourselves weaker "making america great again"?
You don't make anything great by giving up clay.
Look at "Great" Britain. That's what a "former superpower" looks like.
This guy knows what's up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYydLBiTJ0
>>75566570
Britain is a different case. What happens if we pull out of SK?
>>75566427
So the last time we had to get a foothold in that region of the world we dropped nukes.
>>75566630
we become weaker. If we pull out of Japan and SK we lose our footholds in Asia. We also lose allies with about a million active duty troops between the two of them.
>>75564069
Alright, not answering for the other more interesting bits. Good. The last thing I want is for you to be credible at all.
>>75554590
This.
Everyone is frustrated with their governments. They want a Trump of their own to tell their politicians to fuck off.
>>75556479
In this day and age? Lol like people from World War 2 are not still alive? The world doesn't just go up on some progressive climb forever. It goes ups and downs.
>>75566245
how?
>guam
>philipines
>japan
>s korea
it really wouldnt matter losing s korea, it's not like n korea would do anything at this point.
>>75566570
GB is a top-ten economy, the commonwealth still spans the world, and it has nuclear triad first strike capability.
Not bad for a former superpower
>>75566809
If we lose influence by scaling back our military presence do you really thing it's NOT going to weaken our economy? If our economy is weaker do you think people WON'T look to other currencies to invest in instead of the US $?
>>75554513
It's because he's the stereotypical american president.
>>75554513
Because the people of China hate the sick monsters that rule over them as much as he does
>>75556157
>China becomes great again
>they take over the world
welp
>>75564106
Thats what his post just said senpai
>>75566800
So what? What do we receive in return for our presence in the region?
>>75565891
>who cares if we leave south korea
>won't weaken our position
You are a fucking idiot to say having a shit ton of troops within throwing distance of China doesn't strengthen America's position.
Typical Trump shill. Stupid ignorant and poor.
>>75566893
>triad
Nope all their nukes are SLBM's.
America and Russia are the only ones with a true triad. China is closing on it though, they're getting SSBN's, but currently they only have 1 I think
>top 10
and we're #1, how will not being #1 anymore make us "great" again?
>>75554513
Because everyone is fucking tired of the jews, everyone everywhere. They want a leader who wont take orderds from jews and ruin the middle east or whatever countries the jews have trouble with, but Trump is probably just another jew cocksucker.
>>75567475
Stability, political clout, trade deals, force projection. other countries relying on us
What would you rather have.. a paranuclear (they could have nuclear weapons made in a matter of weeks after declaring themselves no longer a part of the nuclear non proliferation treaty Japan has enough material for hundreds of warheads right now) country with 700,000 active duty troops as a die hard pro US Ally willing to go to war on our side in any confrontation, or that same country armed with hundreds of warheads and not really on our side, maybe willing to side with Russia or China against us?
We're investing in them for loyalty among other things.
>>75567897
Trump is as pro Jew as it gets.
>>75556992
Came here to say this. Y'all are missing out
>>75567558
We don't have a shitton of troops in South Korea. They're not there to counter China. Getting in a land war in Asia is fucking stupid. We can project power from US clay and sea basing everywhere in the world to greater effect than those pittance 28k troops in SK will do.
>>75559415
luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul
>>75567897
Sheldon Adelson giving $100,000,000 to his campaign, also he gave his daughter to a Jew
Try again
>>75568209
28k is a lot of troops that you can deploy overnight.
>>75568070
Why should we keep all that?
>>75568330
To where? A mile down the road? They're not deployable units.
>>75568404
Why should we keep political clout and stability?
Don't you want America to be great?
>>75568718
The fuck does America bein great have to do with keeping troops in South Korea?
>>75568888
Because having a global hegemony where we can influence the entire world in our favor is what makes our country great.
A Great America is when America leads, the rest of the world follows. Where we had Pax Americana.
>>75568888
Only countries that aren't great are unable to keep troops in South Korea
>>75569267
We don't have to have a base there to be able to do that.
Just put troops in some nearby U.S territory islands and then deploy if ever needed. Something west of Hawaii or even in Hawaii.
It's a huge waste of money that we could be spending on our aging infrastructure. Let's be honest half of the cities here are falling apart and total shit, and many are run by clueless nigs.
>>75569379
Kek
>>75569267
Let's try this a different way. What would happen if we went full Best Korea?
>pulled all troops from all worldwide bases and put them on our own border
>removed the Navy from the world's oceans and made them a littoral patrol along our coast
>ended all foreign aid
>stopped all foreign trade
>turned off the Internet and GPS
What would happen?
>>75569599
Having bases in South Korea and drilling with their troops regularly fosters a stronger alliance and gives us more influence over South Korean affairs than having troops in Hawaii does.
By the way, South Korea pays a majority of the non personnel costs of the base and drilling exercises.
>But what about the personnel costs, aren't those the biggest costs?
They are substantial costs but we'd be paying them anyway no matter where those troops are stationed, or are you suggesting cutting back our military spending and making us even WEAKER?
>>75570030
Russia and China would take our place as global hegemons, we'd find ourselves opposed at every deal and every action we'd want to take, we'd lose alliances, and our economy would start slipping because people's confidence in us would deteriorate.
You'd have a 19th century America not a late 20th century America, an America that the rest of the world disregarded as weak and unimportant.
>>75570030
Russia/China and some other countries would immediately set up bases in every country we left.
If you don't fuck the girl, someone else will.
>>75570418
>Russia and China would take our place as global hegemons,
So?
>we'd find ourselves opposed at every deal and every action we'd want to take,
We aren't making anymore deals.
>we'd lose alliances,
So?
>and our economy would start slipping
We have the capability to be self sufficient.
>because people's confidence in us would deteriorate.
Don't care anymore.
>You'd have a 19th century America not a late 20th century America, an America that the rest of the world disregarded as weak and unimportant
Who gives a fuck what they think?
They see Trump as weakening the US's hold on SE Asia. They dont care about much else.
>>75571011
>Make America Irrelevant again
You'd think after 2 world wars you'd learn the lesson that isolationism doesn't work.
>>75571011
Russia and China are not two countries you want leading anything you fucking retard.
>>75568330
You don't send the entire base jackass. You can't.
>>75567055
Not an Argument gets thrown around a lot here, but this is very much not an argument. It's some kind of appeal to ignorance. Mine or yours.
This has been good for gathering evidence that you're an incredible retard. Congrats, you're fucking stupid.
>>75571190
It was working fine for us before we stuck our dick in every hole we could find.
>>75571207
Why not?
>>75554513
The citizens love him. The govt. probs don't.
Subversives within the state of China; much like the putin-worshipers here.
>>75571435
>Trump supporter
>not ignorant on foreign policy
choose 1
>>75561349
Hillary Clinton is being controlled by Nvidia??
people all around the world oddly want trump to be the president, even if it's against their countries' interests. All because of his charisma and stamina. People sort of consider the president of US to be the leader of the free world. Most shitholes wouldn't even mind being a US colony, or US ruling the world NWO style. So they want a strong US president to lead humanity into the future.
Basically; memes and globalism
>>75571791
That's great because it doesn't respond to anything I said.
> 1.3 cents has been deposited into your account.
>>75554590
So why is Trump still losing to Hillary?
>>75572489
Cause the media is constantly trying to fuck him up and people are wont to consume it without question
>>75554513
Because Chyna is redpilled
>and also probably tired of sewing together Nikes anyway
>>75554513
>Chinese are ecstatic about a man who's a nationalist and an economic genius who hates foreigners sucking the life blood out of his country
>Somehow it is a mystery why they like him
>Not knowing about China's First Emperor
>>75571554
Yeah but unlike Putin Trump isn't a commie piece of shit that hates the west and wants to take over europe
Not the same at all
>>75572454
you don't give any counters to why you don't think becoming isolationist will impact our economy or influence over the world.
>>75570418
>Russia and China would take our place as global hegemons
No they wouldn't.
Ideally it would be regional. Russia would have Eastern Europe and Central Asia. China would have east Asia. The U.S would have the Americas. Germany France and UK for the rest of Europe.
>>75554513
People respect strength, especially Asians. At the end of the day it's the universal language.
>>75573150
>ideally
That'd be far from ideal for us. That's setting the stage for all of them to be as strong as us and contest us.
The best thing to remain great? Worldwide Hegemony with us as the Hegemon. Nobody contests us then.
>>75573149
Still, not meaningfully responding.
You don't understand. You are saying something will be a way, if something happens. Something Trump I guess. See, I don't believe you though. And you're not really making a good case for why you believe it. So it might as well be false.
I'm not going to have a counter argument for bullshit, that'd be silly.
TL;DR you're full of shit.
>>75561549
>implying 90% of Japan would even fight
They got their balls clipped off a long time ago
>>75573149
We Best Korea nao, practicing te precepts of Juche. Who gives a fuck about our influence in the world? Who gives a fuck what happens to the world? Why does any of that bullshit matter?
>>75561549
>>75555245
given how many virgins there are in china I wouldn't be surprised if they started raping themselves.
>>75554659
God emperor would be 天皇, I think
>>75555287
That's so cute.
The Chinese admire anyone who can run a business and make money. People assumed a lot of Chinese books about "Being Jewish" were anti-semetic, but they were completely genuine books applauding common Jewish tactics for acquiring wealth. Keep in mind that many parts of China are more capitalistic than, say, America. I don't think that Trump hates China either, and his company probably does most of its production labor over in China.
>>75556906
fuck socialized medicine in general get rid of it all. this is not true privatization you jew.
>>75573630
The world is dragging us down. A man who defends everything defends nothing. We should be defending only those who give us things in return.
If you shed your blood so that other nations may prosper, you will soon be disposed of by those nations when you grow hopelessly anemic.
>>75554739
That's like the best thing I've heard for a long time.
>>75575877
Trump doesn't hate China, he hates that we have used China as a crutch.
I'm sure at some point he'll go hang out with whoever the leader of China is (Mao?) and have a real party.
>>75576801
Jinping. And yeah, it's incredibly crucial to get along with China. They are STILL on the rise. Some soft Alt-Righter on Twitter made a great point that Jennifer Lawrence would never say, "Fuck Jinping" because China only allows a certain amount of foreign films per year and China ends up giving foreign films a massive amount of revenue.
Also, a Trump administration might actually involve paying back the debt. You don't want America to collapse if you're China for a number of reasons.
Ok, but is it China or is it Taiwan?
>>75575993
Having a multipolar balance of power just makes total wars possible. Having a single dominant empire or hegemony grants stability among its client states and territories, creating long lasting relative peace. Pax Romana, Pax Britannica, Pax Americana. The problem is you must maintain that empire or hegemony and not let it become weak or fall apart.
Our Hegemony is weakening, that makes Pax Americana weaker, You're advocating for ending it entirely. That'll be the end of a strong America
I guess you will be welcoming your new Chinese overlords?
>>75578519
The US alone couldnt sustain their global empire as they stagnate while the rest of the world grows more powerful. They need their vassal states to pay more or it will collapse by itself
Chinks hate their own country. I don't blame them.
>>75578519
We'll return to the good old days.
China is growing strong.
Russia is strong.
And we'll have trump.
The return of the Three Superpowers is on the horizon.
they dont like their leaders either
>>75577227
Those characters are simplified Chinese, so it's mainland
>>75579008
see that's the difference between a Hegemony and an Empire.
An Empire requires far more troops, far more money to sustain.
A Hegemony means our client states ARE paying for maintaining our position. NATO requires member states to pay a proportion of their revenue on defense. Most of our client states actually pay for most of the non personnel cost of our bases in their countries, etc.
You niggers act like they're getting a free ride and we get nothing out of it.
I'm saying they are paying, they're supplying some of the troops, they're paying expenses, and we benefit from the relationship in multiple ways.
Like I said in South Korea's example, they pay for about 60% of our expenses over there aside from personnel costs that we'd be paying even if they were stateside, they also have their own relatively powerful military. South Korea has one of the top 10 strongest militaries in the world. Having our presence there and also fostering a strong relationship with a powerful ally is a good thing for both of us,
Because now we don't need to station 300,000 US Troops on China's doorstep, we can station 30,000, and Soth Korea can supply 600,000. It's a win win.
To withdraw and have our relationship deteriorate means if we do have an issue with China, such as their man made islands out in the south china sea, we have to send over hundreds of thousands of OUR troops to Guam to negotiate from a position of strength.
>>75578519
You still haven't addressed the issue of why that fucking matters at all.
Trump is a meme, he always was a meme, now he's an even bigger meme. All of the things people like about him are an act he's put on to build his brand, which is a meme. He's an expert at it.
>>75554513
If the Donald gets elected it will mean the downfall of the USA. Think about it for a sec, why would those commies want someone in office who would actually reinstate the US as a super power???
>anti-Chinese rhetoric
Fuck off with this shit bait. He's stated a million times he loves China but as President he won't allow their business to take advantage of us.
>>75555446
I thought liberals and SJWs wanted to put an end to American imperialism, though?
Hmm, really makes you think..
>>75579754
Because nobody can effectively attack us as a nation (isolated terrorist attacks are a different story) when most of the developed world is our allies and client states. We project power outward and attack our enemies on THEIR soil, keeping our civilian population unspoiled by war, we keep our enemies on the defensive. The moment we stop doing this, is the moment they see weakness, and an opportunity to attack.
Even when it comes to terrorist attacks. Something as grand as 9/11 happened partially because we withdrew a lot of our presence from the middle east for almost a decade, after the Gulf War. Instead of keeping our enemies on their toes we gave them a reprieve with which to plan (and it took years of planning and training to pull off) the attack.
During the interwar years and leadup to WWII we had a multipolar balance of power, and a total war broke out.
We tried to stay out of the war, and it only earned us an attack on our own soil.
>>75554659
MEME MAGIC BABY
>>75580458
We'll still have our military, our guns, our nukes. They will just be located on our clay instead of someone else's. Who's going to attack us?
>>75580177
That's because they don't understand that a powerful Hegemony promotes peace. Multipolar power struggles promote war.
>>75554513
The world loves it when America wins.
>>75580701
World War II was also the last time a single country thought it could take on most the rest of the world.
That doesn't pan out very well.
>>75580813
I asked a fucking question. Who's going to attack us?
>>75572489
hes not
>>75562265
Britain lost it's superpower status after the most devastating war in the history of mankind that was fought of their shores, not because they elected a guy with funny hair.
China is where it is because they took advantage of trade deals that fucked our workers over royally while enriching their, and they used their growing influence to infiltrate and steal many of our technologies and designs as soon as they got the chance.
>>75556185
Protection money isnt optional
>>75554513
Countries that want to wreck the United States, are drooling to have an idiot like Trump get elected.
What's up with the sudden influx of anti-Trump messages on this board?
>>75581613
We've been getting raided since Saturday morning by leddit and cripplechan. No biggie.
>>75554513
>They tell me, Donald, I can't believe we're getting away with this. The Chinese love me and I love the Chinese people but they can't believe how stupid our leaders are.
It was true, it was all true.
>>75554513
Can someone explain why Trump is popular in China? Doesn't Trump go against their interest?
>>75583368
Read the other 201 posts in this thread first
>>75554513
Shut it down.
>>75554513
Trump is picking up appeal all over the world to be honest. Europe hates him, but they are cucks.
>>75581256
"pay us money for our military to be on your soil"
"no"
what then?
We pull out and lose the base, as I've been saying would weaken us
We stay there and prove that our threat was meaningless and they never had to pay in the first place, because they realize us having presence there is our benefit as much as theirs
Or do we actually use our military to "rough them up" a little and turn all our allies against us?
>>75554739
This would equate to World Peace actually.
>>75583952
ahh fucking fine i'll stop being a fag then. Bump
>>75584442
>We pull out and lose the base, as I've been saying would weaken us
So what?
>>75554513
So what are liberals going to do when they find out Trump is beloved all across the world? Eastern Europe loves him, there was a protest where they were literally shouting "Donald Trump", Japs ADORE him, and Canadians are starting to groom Kevin O'Leary
>>75579737
Why the fuck are Poland, Estonia, Greece, and the UK the only ones that pay their fare share in NATO then?
>>75554739
Squinty asian or pooloo asian?
>>75584732
read the rest of the thread about the collapse of Hegemony and it weakening our economy, making Russia or China the new superpower, upsetting the balance of power and potentially leading to an end of Pax Americana and more total wars.
>>75581039
Britain was still a Superpower after WWII, it lost its superpower status when they started letting go of most of their holdings in the late 50's and early 60's.
They weren't in a war anymore they just had cuck leadership that backed off and retreated to their little island.
Our Island is bigger yes, but the result will be similar when we retreat back to it.
>>75555555
GET GET GET
>>75554659
The world is waking to it's new leader, Trump will rule Earth and colonize Mars in the next 20 years, then it's off to explore the YUUUUUGE galaxy
>>75555542
Hey, I took that at a local airshow and posted it in a BRRRRT thread, thanks for saving! Have more BRRRRT from the same airshow
>>75586009
So what?
>>75586281
We have the resources to be self sufficient.
>>75554513
>Why does China enjoying Trump so much, /pol/?
Because his foreign policies doesn't revolve around trying to start a nuclear war with China and Russia.
>>75587137
You want China or Russia to be the dominant power in the world?
You want the world reserve currency to be the Yuan?
>>75554513
He's funny.
>>75587741
What difference does it make?
>>75587741
>You want the world reserve currency to be the Yuan?
Yeah, i want the world reserve currency to be backed by gold.
Which it will be, very, very soon.
>>75554669
>complaining about the Chinese wanting us to piss in their mouths.
>>75588139
A lot. It would drive the value of the dollar down, things become more expensive.
We'd also get cucked by China or Russia a lot in anything.
If North Korea were to nuke one of our cities in that situation, and now China is the global hegemon, we wouldn't be able to retaliate because we'd have no allies, any retaliation would turn the world against us. If we did, we'd get destroyed basically. We'd take the rest of the world with us, but it wouldn't do us any good.
Notice how when Turkey shot down a Russian fighter Jet all Russia could do is stamp its feet and fume?
Why was that? Why couldn't Russia go and annihilate Turkey or even just do some air strikes against Turkey? Because Turkey has powerful allies, it would be Russia against most of the rest of the world.
We can sanction Russia and most the rest of the world sanctions them with us, because they're our allies and we have influence over them.
Under a world where Russia or China influences most the world instead of us, China could straight up declare a trade embargo against us, and many countries would follow suit.
People talk about North Korea being "self sufficient" but look how fucking poor they are when most the rest of the world won't trade with them.
>>75588556
I honestly don't give a shit about other countries wanting us to be weaker, we all know other countries want us weaker.
I'm baffled as to why Americans want us to be weaker. Especially when touting MAGA as their slogan.
>>75554739
I fucking wish.
>>75554513
Because they respect power, and know he can be reasoned with and will end up making deals that benefit both countries. Plus it's that or fucking hillary, i mean come the fuck on.
>>75588812
>China could straight up declare a trade embargo against
So what?
>If North Korea were to nuke one of our cities in that situation
Did we suddenly give up our nukes for some reason?
>>75588906
I want to know what difference it makes to us if we go full Best Korea. How would that be bad for America? What difference does it make if we just stop fucking around with the rest of the world?
>>75554513
Its because they hate the CCP as much as we do.
>>75554513
>why does China love TRUMP so much? Can you explain it to me /pol/?
because they know this is the endgame, know that trump will shit up the economy so badly that they'll basically end up owning the country
>>75554606
>>75555446
>>75554918
Pretty much all of these. Chinese literally hate Obama because of his Pivot to Asia and stopping of Chinese dominance in the South China Sea. Trump is a popular buisnessman and is pretty much one of the only known names in the presidential race that most Chinese people know.
Chinese people hate Clinton too because she's what started the entire Pivot to Asia business with Obama. With Trump you get a weaker United States hegemony and NATO because of his isolationism with European and Asian friends, with Clinton and Obama you get the same old hawkishness that China really hates.
So no wonder why most countries that the US doesn't like likes Trump. Because his foreign policy is shit.
>>75589189
Because then the rest of the world can fuck with us.
We can't offensively use nukes, MAD is bad for everyone. So our nukes are only a deterrence against other nukes and that deterrence only really works if the rest of the world isn't against us already.
I already explained that if we go full North Korea we will be fucking poor and our standard of living will be shit. It won't make America great it'll make it weak, poor, and 3rd fucking world.
>oddly popular
Not odd at all. They see trump as someone who beat the establishment. The chinese would love someone to beat the CPC and save them, too,
>>75589572
We have everything we need to be self sufficient. We don't need to rely on any other nation for anything.
Why would anyone be against us? What reason would anyone have to attack us?
>>75589527
It's telling when our allies tend to dislike Trump, and are terrified of statements he's made regarding foreign policy, but our adversaries fucking love him.
Russia loves Trump
China loves Trump
India (a nation who we have neutral relations with but give a lot of H1B visas to) loves Trump
Japan and South Korea and the UK don't like him too much, aside from contrarians on 4chan.
>>75554659
Think of the amplification.
>>75580458
>We tried to stay out of the war, and it only earned us an attack on our own soil.
So is our only option to forever waste away engaged in perpetual warfare? That's retarded. All that'll do is lead to downfall of the United States itself. Even assuming the terrorist attack was due to us "leaving the area" when it was probably due to us sticking our noses far too much in that region for oil in the first place, a few thousand lives for the sake of preserving the stability of the nation is worth the cost. The calculus is cruel, but necessary.
>>75590073
Really makes you think, huh?
>>75590048
We were isolationist and Japan attacked us. Before that we were isolationist and Germany attacked one of our ships. Before that we were isolationist and Spain sank one of our ships then declared war on us.
People see an isolated nation without allies as a weak nation they can fuck with for their own gain.
>>75580969
No, he definitely is. The RCP average will tell you this: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
>>75554513
I can't find the video right now, but there's a news interview with some professor in canada where the man says that obama is despised in china, because although they view him as an aspiring socialist(and indeed, obama is very much inspired by china's way of government, he thinks it's a pristine model of how government should be), if there is one thing they hate, it's a traitor. And almost all of china views him as a traitor to his(our) country.
>>75590230
Don't worry about that fucker. It's not even true. We embargoed Japan, posted a flotilla in their trade routes, and denied them oil. We were also supporting the Chinese with both material and personnel. We didn't "try to stay out of the war" at all. We provoked an attack.
>>75588812
>we wouldn't be able to retaliate because we'd have no allies
Your assuming something that won't happen. There will be nations that pony up money to help maintain the cost of our bases, and our economic allies will be willing to aid us militarily.
>A China, Russia, and US alliance
Would the rest of the world even stand a chance?
>>75590309
>We were isolationist and Japan attacked us.
Not true
>Before that we were isolationist and Germany attacked one of our ships.
Not true.
>Before that we were isolationist and Spain sank one of our ships then declared war on us.
Not true.
American education lads.
>>75590533
they already pay for a majority of the base's expenses aside from the personnel costs.
>>75590701
So?
>>75586949
I was in your thread too.
>>75554513
TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT OF EARTH 2024!!!!!
