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In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
What would stop me from also buying all the bottled water companies and accompanying infrastructure and selling bottled water at $100 a bottle? Or just replacing the bottled water with raw sewage also?
I'll also sell filters, so that people can filter their tapped raw sewage into clean water. The filters will be good for about 50 liters of water, and cost $5,000 each, or maybe more, would have to analyze the market.
Any competition will be instantly subdued/killed by my PMC. I will protect the business corner that is rightfully mine with libertarian principles, only engaging those that seek to usurp my business with force to obey the NAP.
So, what is an average person to do? They have no choice other than to spend all their money on these filters or bottled water, or drink raw sewage to survive. I could also get in the pharmaceuticals/medical industry and invest in, and raise the price of, relevant drugs in advance.
>le you aren't rich you can't do this!!
What stops a super rich kike from doing this? Rothschilds could do this with their pocket money.
>muh NAP
Doesn't violate the NAP, people are still making their own free choice to pay for and drink my raw sewage or not.
>>75538103
common sense
>>75538185
It's 1pm in poland, shouldn't you be busy cleaning toilets?
>>75538236
Im busy with your mom cleaning my dick
>>75538355
My mum wouldn't touch a filthy non-white slavic mong like you with a 10 foot pole, I'm afraid that's just a vodka induced fantasy of yours.
>>75538103
People can dig wells on their own private property to avoid your water. People already do that
Sounds like a great way to get killed by a mob.
>>75538463
>My mum wouldn't touch a filthy non-white slavic mong like you with a 10 foot pole
You may be actually right. Jamal would be a better bull
>>75538103
The fact that you'll never have that much money to begin with, and you're going along with the implication that all of that will be up for sale. Even with this, sure you've got water, but boy that's not going to be enough at all.
Also, Anarcho-Capitalism is not the same as Libertarianism. End this meme.
>>75538103
>stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure
cause you're poor as fuck.
>replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
That's not even the same pipes
>Or just replacing the bottled water with raw sewage
Nobody is buying your shit.
>drink raw sewage to survive
that's not how it works.
>I could also get in the pharmaceuticals/medical industry and invest in, and raise the price
why not fill pills with sewage too?
>libertarian free market society
>military kills competition
i think they have a name for this senpai, and it's not "libertarian free market society"
>>75538523
My PMC would kill any aggressors before they even got within 10km of my person.
>>75538515
Sure, they could try that, however:
Not everyone has that skill
Not all land is suitable for such a thing
More issues
>>75538663
>>75538669
>The fact that you'll never have that much money to begin with
>cause you're poor as fuck.
Didn't even read the full post, eat shit and die fat retards
>>75538103
Daily reminder that libertarians are the ultimate cuckolds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_T5-KEkYNI
>>75538103
>buy everything
>replace everything with shit
LIBERTARIAN BTFO VIVA LA REVOLUTION XDXDXDXD
>>75538745
Well I suppose it wouldn't change much in poland would it?
>>75538103
remember that air is a commodity
t. electronic device measuring the amount of air in breath and charging you accordingly
or consider different areas of city have a different price for one step, when you enter it, your eternal chip measures the number of steps and charges automatically your account
or if you are speeding your eternal chip measures the excess, integrates it and charges automatically your account
or displaying tv shows 2x speed just to save time
future is really bright!
one or two generations may complain but the new one will never know the other world and will take all those miracles for granted
>>75538717
>eat shit
no your plan is to get me to drink it. don't you remember?
>>75538515
whos stoping fracking companies from poisoning ground water?
>>75538533
Kek <---
Kek
Kek
Kek
Kek
>>75538776
>Well I suppose it wouldn't change much in poland would it?
When I last checked, that was not my country that is getting more brown
>>75538901
UK: 86% white
Poland: Maybe 5% white (people from UK, norway, etc.)
Sage and hide
>>75538717
Water will also eventually be outsourced by charities, which are part of the free market. People will invest in mutual funds for water, including desalination.
Either way, you'd never have enough money to buy all water resources. You said to assume you would have enough money to buy it all but you can't. The price of that water would skyrocket as you bought it all up and no currency could reach that ceiling (fiat money supply isn't part of the free market, so you couldn't just print currency).
>Water would become expensive for the general population, too so the problem still stands
It already is. The state already has to subsidize water to artificially low prices. The true value of water is greater than the cost of bottled water and because of that many people in poor nations die. People already suffer from lack of water because it's a limited resource. If we were in a free market economy we'd never get to this problem because the market would have corrected itself long ago and population would have capped already.
>>75538717
Those pmc guys have families and friends. Family and friends you are fucking over. They'd be looting your shit when the mob comes for you, or killing you themselves.
>>75539101
Not an argument
>>75538103
Laws
>>75539196
Desalinated water tastes like shit
>>75539267
> m-muh free market
>>75538822
Libertarians are all about property rights and poisoning your ground water is a violation of those property rights. You'd be able to sue them.
Environmental issues in general boil down to property rights so in a libertarian society there is still room to regulate those kinds of things.
>>75538103
People would post bad reviews about your product.
>>75539219
My workers family and friends would get unlimited fresh water, obviously. Or maybe just my elite private guard get that privilege.
>>75539196
>Water will also eventually be outsourced by charities
They would not be able to get even close to the amount of required water.
>The price of that water would skyrocket as you bought it all up
False assumption.
>>75538103
Probably a fire bomb.
>>75539395
>a fire bomb.
Perhaps you missed the part about my PMC? Learn to read fat retard.
>>75539341
Reviews wouldn't matter when I have the complete monopoly on something vital to life.
>>75539367
>False assumption
What is supply and demand? Did you read the rest of that post?
>>75538103
God this thread and your whole scenario is so fucking unbelievably stupid that it kills my brain cells
>>75538901
>Ahmeds are considered white in bongistan
>slavs are brown
You've seem mistake slavs for gypsies. No wonder, considering there are plenty of both in UK
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>>75539548
You are finnish, you never had any to begin with.
>>75539605
I didn't say slavs were brown, I said they were non-white. Learn to read retarded mong, then perhaps you can get a promotion from toilet cleaner.
>>75539817
Whatever you say about economy Muhammed
>>75538103
People can buy weapon from the free market and take you down for doing too much shit?
I don't know, I'm not really libertarian.
>>75539817
>bongistan is getting more and more brown
>lol u 5% whait, but no brown
Nice mental gymnastic
>>75540006
My PMC would kill them all.
>>75540011
>the only 2 colours that exist are white and brown
Given you clean shit off toilets to make a living every day, I can at least see how you can think this I guess. However no, there is a wide spectrum of colours, not just white and brown.
>>75539423
Perhaps you missed that part about the IRA. Lern2history you stupid cunt.
>>75538103
A number of laws concerning quality of service and the responsibilities you have to the community.
The free market crashed half a century ago, nowadays all your propieties are yours only by grace of the state and they can take it back anytime they want, that's why expropriation is a thing.
>>75540137
>lol u shite
>it's your country that's getting brown
>u no white, but no brown, but shite
Your country is becoming shit, not mine
>>75540143
My PMC wouldn't be held back by an RoE against aggressors, fat retard.
>Your country is becoming shit, not mine
Your GDP is lower than that of nigeria, a literal third world country. Your country is already shit.
>>75540667
>Your GDP is lower than that of nigeria, a literal third world country. Your country is already shit.
Was obviously directed at this mong
>>75540499
>>75540499
>>75540667
>your GPD is lower than nigeria
Hard to not have, considering that it was world empire in XIX century
>>75540667
Humans have been slaughtering each other for millenia over water. Monopolizing the water would be a defacto declaration of war on all of humanity.
You really stupid enough to think you'd win?
>>75538103
>Any competition will be instantly subdued/killed by my PMC
>obey the NAP
You seem confused. And by the way, nothing stops you from doing all of this NOW except that there is no PMC large enough to defeat a national army. Similarly, there would be no PMC large enough to defeat 300,000,000 armed citizens, either.
>>75540884
My PMC would easily slaughter all of my aggressors, yes.
>>75541237
>muh 300m armed citizens
>ruled by a muslim for the past 8 years
jej
Me starting my own water company and my better PMC. All funded by selling you filter materials you made.
>>75538103
>any competition will be instantly subdued / killed
>free market
fuck off retard
Why is lolbertarianism still a thing haven't we all moved on from that family?
>>75538103
Because in a free market, someone would start their own water company and you would go tits up really quick. That's in a totally free market, not this pseudo-free, tightly controlled "utility" system we have now.
>>75541648
Not an argument
>>75541599
Not an argument
>>75541829
Not an argument
>>75541985
>Not an argument
Not an argument
>>75541985
Wasn't an argument, was stating a fact.
>>75542212
No, you were stating a hypothetical possibility with a low chance of happening, not a 'fact'.
Do you even have schools over there anymore?
>>75542249
>expects people to seriously respond to a shitpost
You're the real idiot here, Muhammad.
>>75542391
>60%
>>75542249
>No, you were stating a hypothetical possibility with a low chance of happening
>he says that in "what if somebody bought all the water" thread
>>75542443
Is that the percentage of muds that live on the Islamic Island now?
>>75539327
>environmental issues in general boil down to property rights
Except they don't, unless you're comfortable acknowledging that certain things are rightfully the common property of all mankind (or at least all the citizens of a given country.) The atmosphere, most of the ocean, whatever lands we judge should remain wilderness & so be protected and so on.
And the idea of public ownership is kinda antithetical to libertarianism -- at least as people on here usually understand it.
>>75542538
I expect my hypothetical scenario to be responded to intelligently, not with hypothetical nigger garbage.
>>75542608
No, that would be under 5%, 60% is how "white" america is, and it's rapidly falling. Meanwhile UK is 86% white.
>>75542647
Take the EPA spill in Colorado's Animas River for example. There would be no collective ownership of the river or the mine, but because the toxic spill affected your personal property by poisoning the ground water in your land you have the right to sue the EPA.
If you live in new Orleans and it sank because of rising sea levels and you were able to articulate in court that it was specifically the pollution caused by certain industries, there would be a case to regulate those industries.
It's not about public ownership of land or air or sea. It's specifically about how it affects your own personal property.
>>75543446
>the united states has more white people than the UK has people
wew
lads
>>75538103
>confusing economic force with physical force
>"owning an industry" anti-concept
> assuming perfect global knowledge of all competitors and new technology
> hand-waving an infinite amount of wealth to avoid having to deal with having no customers because literally worse than hitler.
> investors orchestrate a hostile takeover of your batshit insane company
>stockholders/board of directors fire you for destroying the reputation of the company
>bigger strawman than fucking burning man
>>75543820
>I'm too fat and stupid to know what a percentage is
Great post!
>>75543840
Not an argument.
>>75538103
ill just bomb your house and facilities with 15 companions
>>75543947
>In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
>gives a list of things to stop you
>lololol not an argument
>>75543947
>I'm too cucked and Muslim that my only "argument" is percentages
Not an argument.
>>75543656
This seems like a completely workable system to you. You see no flaws in this at all. The fact that there's been unanimous scientific consensus in re: climate change for decades and we're still having enormous difficulty getting people to accept it doesn't give you pause? Your big solution is for people to band together and prove that certain industries are causing it AFTER THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BAD ENOUGH THAT CITIES ARE SINKING BECAUSE OF IT. That they must prove that in court.
That's absolutely fucking absurd.
That's not even getting into heritage sites, national forests and parks and other gov't protected lands, unless you want people to give those up.
>>75538103
you guys are fucking retarded.
>>75544345
What I said basically means that the same mechanisms will exist for regulating environmental damage as they exist today. No more, no less. I never said it was perfect. The current system has its flaws, too. It's just how I imagine it would work.
And you don't have to wait until the city sinks to sue. You don't have to wait until an aggressor pulls the trigger on you before you defend yourself.
Governments aren't the only ones protecting parks and forestry. Private charities already exist that fulfill that role. The point of doing this in a libertarian society is that if enough people actually care, it can be done with minimal waste. There would also be the benefit of coming up with unique and favorable business models to sustain them. The whole perk of free market capitalism is mass competition.
>>75538822
why would fracking companies poison ground water? can the people who run frackign companies live without water?
>>75543446
Garbage in, garbage out mate.
>>75544031
my PMC will kill you before you even got close.
>>75544117
Not an argument.
>>75544131
In denial.
>>75544482
Not an argument.
>>75545493
Not an argument.
>>75545668
Not an argument.
>>75543820
>the united states has more white people than the UK has people
It also has more non-white people than the UK has people. Over twice as many. You haven't thought your "argument" all the way through.
>>75545668
if you're gonna do extremist things like that in a libertarian society, you will have to expect that people will react in similar extremist ways.
So if you annoyed enough people with your shitty water tyranny someone would have to kill you even if it violates the NAP.
>inb4 muh PMC will kill you
no, he won't. Trust me
>>75538533
Poland with the Bantz
>>75547169
Not an argument.
>>75538103
who would pay for it? Whats to stop a man from digging a hole or setting out buckets to collect rain water? Will you buy the plastic and shovel manufacturing companies to prevent this? What's to stop someone from making a home made filter, as its very easy to do so? Would you also buy all the textile and gravel companies as well? Where would you get this money to buy all the water on earth and then also hire and maintain a large enough PMC to enforce your rules? What will happen if no PMC wants to work with you? What if someone doesnt want to sell their water rights to you? Wgat if someone digs a hole and finds a natural water source that yoy didnt previously buy? Im not even a lolbertarian but your argument is pure shit.
>>75538103
Libertarian isn't anarchy.
There are barebones intrusions into the market to prevent this type of thing from occurring.
All ethics go out the window when you're dealing with uber elite companies whether they are government or privately owned.
The laws may as well not exist at that point because they are either having the state write laws in their favor or buying verdicts to continue bad policy.
Does the state really protect you from these types of actions as well as forcing the companies to cannibalize each other and compete like free market does? Both systems have inherent flaws obviously.
>>75547561
Not an argument.
>>75547856
Already been addressed + not an argument.
>>75548178
Not an argument.
>>75538533
Epic bantz + dubs
Love ya Poland
> Delusional Britbong that doesn't know the basics of a moral society/ mob psychology/political ideologies/ basic economy
> Insinuating Slavs aren't white
I'd say we aren't, because Slavs are obviously superior to Anglos, who are cucking themselves into oblivion while Slavs hold a firm grip on their country and national identity.
>>75541767
Because threads like these happen from time to time and the OP is debunked.
Also OP actually means anarcho-capitalism as there are typically still basic regulations and a somewhat retained element of mix-market economics involved in most libertarian ideologies to a minor degree. Its only anarcho-capitalism which is the most extreme form of libertarianism that does away with these things 100% to give full freedom. So for these threads we get the most extreme form of libertarianism, apply a complex and unrealistic hypothetical situation and still end up at a logical endpoint and explanation as to why it wouldn't occur.
Most people of /pol/ would prefer to forget about libertarianism though, over time /pol/ has lost resonance with the live and let live attitude combined with 'anarchist' ideas that ruled the undertone of 4chan as a whole during the republican years. The slow swing back to where we are today as more conservative is just a counter-culture response to the mainstream view and libertarianism only is partially attuned to that.
>>75548523
Not an argument
>>75548526
False + not an argument
>>75548686
Not an argument.
Oh dear looks like libertarianism has been destroyed once again.
>>75538103
Literally a South Park plot
>>75538103
You're a god damned retard.
Libertarian free market does not equal anarcho-capitalist.
*LIMITED* federal government does not mean *NO* federal government.
>>75538103
>So, what is an average person to do? They have no choice other than to spend all their money on these filters or bottled water, or drink raw sewage to survive.
People would emigrate. If there isn't reasonable access to a necessary commodity, like water, people would leave. They'll go somewhere where there is clean water.
>Any competition will be instantly subdued/killed by my PMC. I will protect the business corner that is rightfully mine with libertarian principles, only engaging those that seek to usurp my business with force to obey the NAP.
How so? Monopolies can only exist when either the one company prevents others from entering by force or when no company can compete. I don't think it would be hard for companies to pop up like poland spring selling real water instead of your sewage.
>In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
First of all In a libertarian free market society, what is there to stop me from buying all the water companies and infrastructure, and replacing everyone's running water with raw sewage?
Given you have the money to purchase and sustain your sewage is water plan, people would also have to voluntarily sell you their water. Though you may hypothetically offer them infinite amounts money, I believe there are some who would retain their companies simply out of the self interest of owning a company that produces drinking water or perhaps viewing that owning such a company is worth more than any amount of money you have to offer. There isn't any point in having all the money in the world when you are going to die because there isn't any water to drink right?
>>75538103
What's to stop the big government from doing the same thing as this supposed mega corporation you are making up?
You would only really need to convince something like 400-600 people in the senate and house and obviously the president to get away with it. That is way less than the amount of people you would have to buy out in the scenario you are making up.
>>75538533
Well done Poland.
How would you deal with anyone who has a private well on their property? These people have no need for your water. What's to stop them from selling their water at a much lower price and running you out of business? Are you going to kill them off with your PMC? It's a libertarian system you're referring to so there still is government and laws in place, not anarchy.
>>75538103
According to Gary Johnson, you just say "The Free Market", black magic happens, and everything you mentioned is countered.
