Hitting your kid is such a nigger thing to do, if you cant teach your child to reason don't be a parent.
>child
>reason
fuck off with your shit bait thread you millenial faggot
I didn't know your people were niggers 50 years ago, I see you enjoy being white now, congrats #currentyear
>>75530596
>child
>cant reason
must be an abo
Why do you upsidedownlanders even care about Negroids? I didn't think you had any. I thought you had another subspecies bothering your society
>>75530498
My mom used to hit us with a plastic flip flop she called "John Henry".
>tfw dad spanked me when I was young now I can only get off to guys hitting and choking me
thanks dad
>>75530498
Actually, it's what you do when you aren't a white faggot.
"Listen, 3-year-old daughter, I'm reasoning with you..."
Like 3-year-olds give a shit about sucralose or your political party. Get extinct already cuckold abo.
if they can understand reason, use reason.
if they can't understand reason, they won't know why you're hitting them and it's abuse anyway.
checkmate atheists.
>>75530699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAVnz8Lj0vg
Just be glad it wasn't a hammer, anon.
>>75530763
This.
Children can't be reasoned with. They're like dogs, they only understand reward and punishment.
>>75530763
>>75530916
>children so brain dead they cant be taught how to reason
nigger alert
any white child can be reasoned with and dealt with. No need for chimp outs onto little kids.
>>75530737
>Estonia
Definitely a degenerate trap
>>75530976
Nobody is saying you need to take a switch and beat your kid bloody. A few spanks is enough. If you want your child to be disciplined and able to cope with more severe mental and physical trauma when they get older, you will use corporal punishment.
>>75531225
implying they can't do sports or martial arts and get the same thing without the breach of parent/child trust.
>>75531225
>disciplined
>installed response of do what big person says or they hit me
Yea good job raising a child, any decent person will be able to put up with the child's tantrums and teach them how to be a respectable person. Not just whack them into submission.
>>75531309
>>75531417
This is why the white race is full of beta cucks.
If you need to hit ya kid in order to instill fear and submission to authority, you're doing it wrong
>>75531748
>>75530498
Hitting your kid is ok because you only need to do it once
>yelling and screaming at your kid all through child hood is fine
>>75530498
You expect children to be able to reason when even most adults can't do that?
>>75530498
Sometimes it's justified to hit your kid. If he's being a real brat, throwing a tantrum and breaking stuff, then it's appropriate to give him a spanking. The nigger thing to do is to brutally beat your child within an inch of his life for some minor bullshit.
>>75532178
confusing don't with can't.
>>75530596
is your child a nigger?
white children that are raised properly can do reason
>>75532283
>Sometimes it's justified to hit your kid. If he's being a real brat, throwing a tantrum and breaking stuff
I was occasionally a little shit as a kid, and I was spanked for it (also was administered hot sauce when I swore). Later, I stopped getting spankings, and the threat of them kept me in line.
> Me being a dick in the supermarket.
> Mom: "Anon, do I have to spank you in front of all these people?"
>Me: "No. No. I'll stop!"
>>75532599
Every time I see an annoying little shit throwing a fit in the supermarket or on the bus or any public place, I always think about how the parents shouldn't have spared the rod.
>>75532599
>I occasionally refused to give information to my captors in the POW camp, and I was beaten for it (also was administered acid when I swore). Later, I stopped getting beatings , and the threat of them kept me in line.
Just because it works doesn't mean it's the only thing that works or that it's the best way to do something.
Nothing wrong with spanking toddlers. After 5 or 6 that they're old enough to know better and can be grounded or given timeout or whatever.
Spanking does not equal beating and shaking the kid like a nigger for minor shit either.
When they refuse to behave and all else fails, just a couple quick spanks while explaining what they did wrong is all it takes.
>>75530498
this nigger looks simultaneously 12 years old and 45.
>>75531987
Thats bad too, i said teach them to reason why did you straw man?
>>75534081
hispanics are notorious for beating their children, so I don't really know where you're going with that but good job I guess.
>>75532283
>The nigger thing to do is to brutally beat your child within an inch of his life for some minor bullshit.
You haven't lived until you have seen a breed sow sheboon throw one of her niglets a "parking lot beatin'"! Niglets are virtually indestructible, and a pissed-off sheboon can smack her niglet around like no one else.
"LeQuan, git you ass over heayuh right NOW! Did you talk back to me? You 'bes be moving yo hind parts...now don't you make me move my neck!"
After some screaming beatin' foreplay like that, you know you are in for a real treat, because this sheboon is gonna knock her niglet into next week! Just sit back, pop open a beer and open a bag of Doritos, because you're about ready to enjoy dinner and a show for just a few bucks.
Just keep hoping no libtard dogooder calls the cops because the niglet is getting smacked around like a bitch. Parking lot beatins' are usually reserved by a sheboon for when her devil spawn really, really deserve it.
Enjoy!
>>75532895
It literally lowers your childs IQ.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090924231749.htm
Hitting a niglet makes it more violent in later life.
Whites become pussies.
Asians pretty much aren't affected negatively that much.
>>75530498
I use to think the same, hitting a child was wrong and all but the true is that not all children are the same, some are born annoying and you just want yell SHUT THE FUCK UPP and smash him on the wall.
Use this more often, its not racist
>>75536784
please never breed.
>>75536857
I remember when some official used that here in the USA, he was forced to resign lol
>>75536879
Why? You're one of thoses betas liberal that support the idea of love, anti-bullying never hit your childre bullshit? The oldest generation were treat like mens and they were the last good generations.
>>75534602
>being this naive
wew lad, you have a lot to learn.
>>75537116
>I use to think the same, hitting a coworker was wrong and all but the true is that not all coworkers are the same, some are born annoying and you just want yell SHUT THE FUCK UPP and smash him on the wall.
why do you have a stronger standard of rights for adults then for children. is your anger so uncontrollable that you have to indulge your violent impulses at a child's expense?
The research and the morality is against you. All you have is an emotive appeal to tradition and anecdotal support.
Ergo, please never breed.
>ask kid to do something
>he doesn't do it
>explain why he should do it
>he doesn't do it
>threaten mild force because you know they need to do it
>they do it
>if they don't do it
>use mild force
>>75530737
ESTONIA!!!!
I have a new gif for you!!!!!
:3
Balls.... I only have a png. I know I saved a fucking gif in the same colours somewhere...
>>75537342
How many children do you have?
>>75537342
Who the fuck is talking about anger? If I see a nigger kid in the street insulting people and being an annoyins I would love to tell him to shut the fuck up, that's not anger thats common sense. Children should be treated like you treat an adult, no fucking difference. And the fact that you say "emotive appeal to tradition" as a bad thing make me thing you're a liberal faggot who will probably have beta kids. Enjoy your mexican invasion thanks to that.
>>75537704
>SHUT THE FUCK UPP and smash him on the wall.
>feeling anger vs expressing anger.
literally admitting to no emotional self-control.
>Children should be treated like you treat an adult, no fucking difference.
Right, except for the lack of life experience, maturity, etc.
Just because you never matured doesn't mean no one else did.
Pic related, you're at the bottom of the pyramid right now.
>>75537577
I'm getting the feeling that you're not going to believe the answer no matter what it is.
>>75537896
>Like if I care about a bullshit pic from paint.
Obviusly I wouldn't smash a kid against the wall, that's just an expression. But something you should teach your kid with a smack, that's what I'm saying.
Lack of life experience and maturity is not an excuse for being a nigger.
>kid won't do something
>won't listen to you
>smack his behind hard enough to scare but not to hurt
>kid now realizes that violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived
>would you like to know more?
>>75537985
So you're going to teach children to be reasonable and peaceful citizens. And the way you're going to do that is by giving an object lesson wherein as soon and someone feels frustrated and emotionally vindicated, it's ok to use force.
Children learn from their parents actions far more than from their words. "Do as I say not as I do" has never worked.
>Lack of life experience and maturity is not an excuse for being a nigger.
Children don't spontaneously become niggers, they learn it when parents reinforce the behaviors by chimping out on them. There are so many other parenting tools you can use to correct behavior. Crack a parenting book and stop being lazy.
>>75530498
sometimes you have to teach your kid their actions can have violent reprecussions before they go into the real world and get taught by some stranger who doesn't give a fuck about their life, but two things.
If done without discipline or reason you create a violent criminal.
If the need arises regularly then you fucked up as a parent.
>>75537251
>being so abo you want to hit your kids
>>75530498
only betas are afraid to spank their kids , kids who do not get spanked are usually way worse anyway i was spanked it is not that bad if you are not a pussy
>>75538352
children also need to learn that stoves can be hot, so make sure to burn their hand at least once so they learn. If you just tell them they wont believe you.
>>75538240
Say who? All of your great historical leaders use force and they were kids who get more than a smack. Now is not okay to hit a child and what we got? BlackLivesMatters, Feminism, Pro-Abortion, people burning your fucking country flag. You can say whatever you want but reality show you that smaking your children in the appropiate moment, help them have values as well.
>>75538421
"A poll conducted by The Huffington Post and YouGov found that 81 percent of 1,000 adults polled believe spanking with a hand should be legal, and almost half think it’s an effective form of punishment.
>Indeed, whether the respondents’ own parents used corporal punishment made a big difference in their views about the legality of spanking. Eighty-eight percent of those whose parents used corporal punishment, but only 69 percent of those whose parents did not, said spanking with the hand should be legal. Peterson has justified his behavior by saying he believes he is successful because of the way his parents disciplined him.
However, there is overwhelming evidence that physical punishment is both ineffective and harmful to child development. Former HuffPost Senior Columnist Lisa Belkin has argued that the word “debate” should be left out of the spanking conversation, because the science against it is so clearly one-sided.
“There aren’t two sides. There is a preponderance of fact, and there are people who find it inconvenient to accept those facts,” Belkin wrote in a 2012 column."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/adrian-peterson-corporal-punishment-science_n_5831962.html
>>75538470
you are probably a beta cuck
>>75538597
>Over 80% of black believe corporal punishment is ok.
>non-spanking caused BLM and degeneracy
holy fuck being this ignorant of the science. Open your browser and do some research, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>75538470
kids will burn themselves on their own eventually and figure that out by themselves. It's best to tell them beforehand that it's hot so when they disregard your advice and do it anyway they realize that you're worth listening to when it comes to danger. And when they do burn them you don't coddle them but you teach them how to suck it up and deal with it by teaching them how to treat the injury.
But sometimes when you're walking out of a diner and your kid thinks it's fun to start kicking the gravel at cars you give him a kick in the ass and tell him if he was a grown man and someone saw him doing that to their car he'd get it a whole lot worse so to be respectful of other peoples property.
Some kids are dumbasses and can't work these things out for themselves. It's called a reality check.
Hitting a child doesnt mean to beat the shit out of it like one would do to an adult.
It doesnt mean harming the little shit or crippling it.
A slap is excellent as beating a child. It doesnt harm it, doesnt leave scars, doesnt do anything to it, just reminds it to shut the fuck up and learn what happens next time it tries to pull shit off like that again.
>>75538732
>>75538600
You're source are pretty much what Bernie supporters read. Fuck off m8.
Is true that whites don't smack their children like others races. Is also true that long ago whites use to dominate the entire planet. Now Europe is getting cucked by Africa and Middle-east and your country by Mexico.
>>75538744
>Some kids are dumbasses and can't work these things out for themselves. It's called a reality check.
the science does not agree with you. I'm sure blaming the kids is convenient, but the fact is it's lazy parents. Take some responsibility. Do some research. I'm zealous on very few topics, but the science is so one sided that there's really no excuse for ignorance.
>>75538847
>attacking the source instead of the argument.
Here's the original meta-study. Is the APA rigorous enough for you? Is anyone rigorous enough for you.
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2002/06/spanking.aspx
>>75530498
Found the person who was never parent, children are niggers, when they're small they're just literally animals who fucks over even you if it gets them what they want and the only concept they at that age understand is that of whip and sugar and while abusing either is bad, using both is neccesary, now post your kids with timestamp or shut the fuck up about how people should raise their kids because you don't know shit about it.
>>75538847
science also say we should racemix since make the strongest humans
If you need to hit your child you have failed us a parent.
My parents never hit me or my brother and we grew up fine, we are pretty educated, we don't do dumb shit like drugs, we aren't liberals, etc. Same goes for most of my friends.
A parent should command respect, not fear.
Just because you were a brat when you were younger it doesn't mean that all kids are brats.
>>75538984
So because some scientists are wrong all science is garbage.
>>75539062
So you pick wich science is wrong and wich it isn't?
I'd rather have my parents give me an ass whoopin than remind me for months how disappointed they are in me for getting B+ on my tests instead of A.
>>75538847
most kids are impulsive. They also lack a fully functional brain and accompanied years of life experience. The laziness comes when that kind of behavior is tolerated, or presented with mimicked toleration in the form of laws against hitting your kids. Then they grow up and go out into the world being disrespectful shits and acting in shock and surprise when a stranger stomps their head against the curb or they get beaten by the police. That violence exists in the world and that it can affect them if they don't exercise caution is one of the fundamental lessons your child must understand completely before they go out into the world or else they'll get killed by a nigger or worse, become a liberal activist set on importing dangerous violent criminals to the country.
>>75539166
Do you actually have to be told to use your own judgement and think for yourself to determine what is and isn't true? Do they not teach logic or critical thinking in Argentina?
>>75538823
This
These threads get boring, they come up every few days/weeks and the arguments are always the same
It somehow seems to be incomprehensible to many people that a slap is not the same as beating the shit out of a crying child
>>75539287
logic and judgement can be warped into something that transmutes fantasy to reality, just as scientific studies can be biased towards the scientist's own values and opinions, and psychologists no matter how hard they try are not scientists.
>>75539287
They do but you're not using it.
You have two claims by science.... You say one is right and nobody can argue against because SCIENCE BITCH and the others is wrong because science sometimes make mistakes. Based on what?
Anyway, I got bored with this, raise your children like Tumblr teach u, thats fine by me.
>black parents beat their children
>black kids become failures
>white parents reason with their children
>white kids become successes
There is no argument at this point that beating your kids is counterproductive. The evidence is there.
>>75539244
corporal punishment has nothing to do with teaching kids about the world. You can put your kids in martial arts classes, you can teach them to shoot. Once they're sufficiently mature, you can show them ISIS beheading videos. None of that requires that you violate parent/child trust by using force against them. There is no function served by hitting kids that isn't done better some other way.
>>75539370
I'm sorry, is there something superior to logic and judgement for finding truth now? You missed Plato by a few thousand years.
Parents who beat up their children should be aware that time will be in favor of the children. The parent will be the weak one, one day, and why wouldn't the children take revenge? If you can beat a defenseless child, don't cry when that child grows up, and comes back to destroy you, when you are old and weak.
>>75539370
for example, that article was written by a fat jewish liberal arts professor named Elizabeth Gershoff and some french cuck named Robert Larzelere. Neither of them have kids.
>>75539046
Clearly someone should hit you to pay your fucking debts ,you lazy turkniggers
And stop sending refugees elsewhere,do your god damn job or fucking leave the EU,you useless armpit piece of shit of a country
There is nothing in Greece besides sandy islands,foreign owned basic clubs,greek pussy to fuck and cheap alcohol
And a failed state.
>>75538823
spanking adjust bad behavior through the button cheeks. it mostly hurts their feelings and that is huge because a child wants to please their parents. you don't injure you give consequences for action.
>>75539568
logic and judgement can be warped into a parody. Willful Ignorance driven by feelings and bias is often the cause. Physical discipline in particular is something that can be misjudged, and feelings are something that can be weaponized to polarize opinions into something that bypasses logic. Especially since it is human nature to amplify the bad as a protection mechanism. This is why spin in marketing and public relations exists, but I will tell you what is not spin. When someone says hitting their kids you probably think of some drunk asshole going to town on some children. That is and will never be disciplining your children.
Huh, my parents gave me a few slaps through my childhood, when I did some utterly stupid shit.
No words were needed for those lessons, it had exactly the same effect but without the need to "reason" with me. I just learned what they meant by giving me a slap on the cheeks.
And no, I don't have a single bad thought towards my parents, I hold them very dear to me.
>>75539966
>>75539202
>>75538927
>>75538744
>>75538421
>>75532853
>>75532599
>>75530916
>>75539948
>logic and judgement can be warped into a parody.
Congratulations you're no longer using logic or judgement. Learn some rigor.
>>75530498
>>75540369
I wasn't arguing that slapping is good, because I'm just a single case. (Just wanted to show a certain case where it can work, completely closing single cases will lead to polarized perspectives on matters (usually just for thinking about the said perspective, not to be used as an argument)).
And I know way more negative cases of parents using force towards their children. I wouldn't advocate people to actually do certain stuff just based on my subjective viewpoint.
And yes, I'll use my flag as an excuse for my flaring autism, I didn't hope that anyone actually held subjective experiences as complete facts and means of arguments, instead of just gathering viewpoints.
>>75540922
Well that's significantly more intellectually honest than the other posters. It's appreciated.
>>75537985
Woah, hey Argentina did you happen to make this exact post not too long ago? And I mean word for word, I remember this perfectly and I don't know why. I even remember that it was an Argentinian who posted it, it's so fucking weird
>>75530498
There's a difference between abuse and discipline YA FUCKIN SPASTICAP.
And we've gone and made DISCIPLINE illegal. Now all you can do is watch yer kid turn into a cunt.
Yeah no fuck that. I refuse to have a kid that can't be disciplined and raised right.
>muh 5 year old can into adult logic and reason
Lol fuck off you retard. You've clearly never dealt with 5 year olds.
>>75541336
Put the bottle down.
>>75541101
My first post was a bit too aggravated and I rarely bother to give my insight in threads that get responses at a fast rate.
There's also not much feedback in /pol/, so I rarely bother posting anything too insightful. Most of the time it just feels like feeding pearls to pigs
>>75541433
yeah quora is usually better for rigorous debate. I'm passionate about the topic and got a bit triggered.
>>75530498
There are certain contexts where it's appropriate.
Generally, if you want to quickly enforce a negative association with a young kid, a light smack makes sense. Something like a smack across the wrist if they were doing something that is dangerous, ex. jamming something into a light socket.
>>75530976
if you arent a child psychologist you need to shut the fuck up
>>75541492
Can't blame you on that one, atleast you managed to make me do some sort of contribution to ~anything~ so kudos on that.
>>75531903
if you need to hit your dog to make it understand shitting on the floor is bad youre doing it wrong
>>75536391
It can simply be said that prevailence of spanking in households is related to other forms of abusive parenting. Childhood development can't be measured by the fact they were spanked or not, it involves things like the childs relationship to their parents, whether they're read a bedtime story and so on.
>>75538200
>violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived
this nigger gets it
>>75538470
>so make sure to burn their hand
no. let them burn their own hand
I don't have kids so I don't really care but every study about spanking & hitting kids shows the same thing. It isn't effective.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/stevens/ct-spanking-effects-study-balancing-0428-20160428-column.html
I'm sure it makes you feel better though. I always want to slap some brat whining in the grocery.
>>75532557
Yes around 8-9. But at the start of walking its a fucking nightmare. They eat anything on the floor, touch everything like outlets and such. No amount of "don't do that it will hurt you" and saying "no" will help. Because they're little disobedient shits. My daughter is 2 and even she screws up every now and then. She won't touch the cat, won't look at outlets, doesn't rip my mouse off the desk anymore, eats nothing off the floor anymore but she eats grass when outside. My only obstacle when disciplining her is my wife's parents. They spoil her and let her do anything she wants. Undermines us in front of her. We're slowly breaking off from them and have screamed at them. Fuck grandparents.
>>75542192
yeah but you have to share the earth with their hellspawn, and their shitty parenting is going to fuck up society for everyone.
>>75537354
this. I work at a gym that has a daycare and I am asked to help once in a blue moon. I have seen that at least in the gym (and other places, supermarkets in my area ect..) so its not an isolated case that I'm pointing out.
>Kid comes in with parents, usually being carried, no big deal really.
>as soon as parents put kid down the kid starts SCREAMING as loud as they can and the parents just laugh and trick them by making them look at something and running off.
>Kid finds out and starts screaming and crying for the next 2 hours
>Kid shits himself, literally.
>Co-worker says she'll call the parent
>Parent comes in and is told of the situation
>"Umm why did you call me? You dont need to call me every time she poops herself ok? I still have an hour left and I will come back then." and storms off.
>WAT.
>call her back, this time I tell her that she needs to take the kid and leave or change the kids diaper.
Some people are against disciplining their kids physically, but this kind of abuse can be emotional too and dont forget neglect is a thing. So when ever you hear people say
>"I never hit my kids!"
remember that usually this means that they either ignore their pleas for help or they just straight up neglect/abuse the kid in some other way.
ONLY ONE PARENT comes in ever 40 mins to check on her kid and thats the happiest baby I've seen there EVER.
I know I NEVER want kids because I would beat the CRAP out of my kids if they acted the way they do in the fucking daycare shit. Hitting each other, no manners, no respect, just running around shitting and screaming and slapping each other. Its like India in there.
>>75541421
Put the fork down.
>>75537704
There are no niggers on the street here , remember? Unless you count the Kenyans who sell fake watches in the street corner
>>75538358
Never said that m8, but you clearly don't understand what it's like to raise a child.
>i'll just teach them to reason! i'll never have to even raise my voice because my kids will just somehow understand!
>>75530498
It's funny how all black memes are all around their mothers because they have no fathers
>>75543768
you didn't learn enough before having a kid so you didn't learn how to address the problems before they happened and you're using violence as an easy crutch.
Perfectly understandable, but not morally right.
>>75542729
You're basically saying the only two parenting styles are neglect or abuse, thats fucking stupid.
>>75543977
>I'm too retarded to be responsible enough to draw a line between violence and discipline.
>I know, violence is already illegal, let's ban discipline, so I don't have to make tough choices!
I hope you're a woman and you have three kids mate. I really, really hope you do.
Christ alive I'd give my life just the be a fly on the wall watching you "reason" with three kids.
>>75544116
I'm saying that there are MANY types of abuse, and that MOST kids suffer from one or another. Hitting a kid is no better than letting them sit in their own shit. Just because a parent doesn't beat the child with a bat in front of you doesn't mean that they dont do any other type of abuse.
Hypocrisy is what I am talking about. there is NO SUCH THING as a perfect parent, so saying
>HURR DURR HITTING YUR KID IS BAD
DOES NOT mean
>I never abuse my child in any way shape or form.
Hitting should be allowed imo. Some kids are shitters, just like how some girls go up to guys and slap the fuck out of them saying "YOU CANT HIT ME! IM A GURL!".
How do you put that woman in her place? Beat the FUCK out of her so she will remember it for the rest of her life. Unless you advise that we do this instead.
>Hey anonnette, I'm sorry that you are upset, but I do not like being hit. Please refrain from doing so as you are right, I will not lay a finger on you :)
>>75530498
Spanking is teaching reason, you roojew.
"This is the reason you're getting your ass whooped. DON'T DO IT AGAIN!"
All in all, I think what we need to talk about is at what AGE is it inappropriate / appropriate to hit a child.
I know some guys that get beat by their parents even though they're middle aged.
I have seen videos of people hitting their kids that are practically infants because they wouldn't stop crying.
I think ages 4-15 are appropriate for hitting your child. Less severe if they are on the lower end of the bracket and if they're still shitters by age 15, then they are practically a lost cause.
>>75536931
>USA! USA! USA!
>>75530498
You're not their goddamn friend, you're their parent. You have authority over them, and a quick slap is a perfect way to get them back in line if they challenge that authority; you literally show them they have no power over you, and you know exactly what power you have over them. However, always connect discipline to behaviour, don't strike out of anger; that's beating, and that's indeed nigger behaviour. If you teach a kid that the second warning they get before they stop doing something is a slap across the fingers, eventually you'll only have to say once. If you hit them as punishment, make it well known; "You broke a window while playing with a ball, I told you you shouldn't have played with your ball, so when your dad gets home, he'll give you a spanking." There's no room for compromise there; going against your wishes always results in a spanking, no matter how much the kid tries to negotiate.
>>75546918
I'd say 12 is the cutoff. Still a whiny little cunt after that? The older kids in school will hit it, you won't have to. And if all else fails, off to boarding school.
>>75536391
I think this is a case of "correlation =/= causation"
Niggers and spics tend to beat their children more if I had to guess.
>>75536391
So, once the kid is over 5, you should spank it as much as you can to profit from the IQ increase?
