Why do REPUBLICS lack GRAVITAS? Where you compare 2 like countries, all other things being roughly equal the republic always seems to lack a considerable gravitas possessed by the monarchy. I don't mean to say that for example the United States, which possesses considerable gravitas, lacks gravitas when compared to Brunei. But where you compare like countries like Norway vs Finland; Japan vs Korea; Britain vs France, the republics always seem to be lacking 'something' and give the impression of being less respectable. In fact I can only think of two republics, namely Switzerland and the United States, that possess an air of respectability. This is why, if people keep whining that the Queen of Australia is the same person as the Queen of the United Kingdom, Canada, etc, despite these roles being legally separate, it would be better to just change the succession law to split off the royal family of Australia in genetics as well as law (eg offer it to William or Harry while UK gets Charles) rather than just amending the constitution to become a republic by replacing Queen/Governor General with ceremonial president
King William & Princess Tay Tay of Britannia, WHEN?
>>75255248
Queen of /pol/ and King of England united.
Just trying to pathem the glory of it all brings a tear to my eye
>>75255144
>hey guys i just learned this awesome word gravitas i feel smart lol xD
>>75255473
>Flag
>Thinking 'King of England' exists
>>75256032
>I was just acting retarded lol
It may be that Switzerland and the US are the only respectable republics as they are the oldest and most stable (France certainly isn't as it reverted to empire and monarchy many times between 1789 and 1945 and completely changed its constitution many times thus '#th French Republic'. Aside from the two mentioned, it seems all the other republics of the world have proved to be massively unstable
>>75255144
In all Westminister systems that have transitioned to a Republic, they've always had a shitty politically motivated president and as a result unstable Politics (you have only to look at the Irish Uachtarán)
Monarchy gives the ability to have an impartial head of state above party politics to intervene in an emergency (and your GG exercising that power has heightened Republicanism above any other Commonwealth realm); but think about it this way, a President wether appointed by Parliament or directly elected; will be screwing with your Political system like that constantly, wether in favour of the Parliamentary Government or against it.
>>75256214
>Switzerland is a direct democracy and is unstable as fuck due to competing cantons
>The US has always survived on a two party system and the constant switching between them.
There are plenty of stable Republics, it's just having an impartial head of state is highly beneficial and highly sought after; and having an Autocrat raised for the job is by far the best system despite muh jewels.
>>75256214
And the French have been a constant mess of riots revolutions and uprisings their entire history; they've just gotten more efficient at it since 1789.
>>75255144
Man shut the fuck up.
America is the single greatest country on Earth primarily because they decided to flush all that Queen shit down the drain about 200 years ago.
All other Commonwealth nations would be smart to do the same thing.
I will never understand people's fascination with these old pale fucks who have accomplished absolutely nothing in their lives besides being born from the bloodline of kings. It pisses me off that that old bitch is on our money.
The moment someone says he wants to completely remove Canada from the monarchy's influence in every shape and form, I will vote for them on that basis alone.
Fuck the royal family.
>>75256764
>America is the single greatest country on Earth primarily because they decided to flush all that Queen shit down the drain about 200 years ago.
Are you the faggot leaf that was shilling for the Americans in the WWII thread as well; thank god you fuckers are a minority.
>>75255144
>>75256961
>The nation that literally saved the world, multiple times.
>The nation that literally had to bail out England's ass in WWII.
Did the eternal Anglo get triggered yet again?
>75256593 Indeed the French appear to be a savage race.
>75256412 While our system here has been too heavily modified by federalism, strong senate, written constitution, etc to truthfully be considered a Westminster system, no matter what the system a politicised head of state appears to be a recipe for instability and resentment. Why anyone would voluntarily give away this great benefit of an impartial head of state so lightly is ridiculous. Hopefully as unfortunately I believe will be inevitable when QE2 passes and the Australian people decide to ditch the monarchy somebody will put forward the proposal of just changing the law of succession so that the Australian monarch is somebody who is not the monarch of any other country at the same time. Preferably a direct descendant of the existing royal family. Unfortunately it seems this will never happen and we will get some politician
>75256764 But then what would be the point of Canada's continued existence as a nation? Without the monarchy you may as well join the US. Unlike Australia canada is nor an organic and unified country with a distinctive culture like Australia and is basically a collection of provinces that didn't join in the revolution of 1776. I can't imagine a Republic of Canada continuing to exist very long
>>75257068
>Did the eternal Anglo get triggered yet again?
Not really pal, I found it p.funny.
When you realise the American contribution in the first world war was less than the Portugese expeditionary force and in the second a minor allied power along with the Free French forces and the UK.
The Americans sat around making money out of both wars and the effects are going to ware off within the next 10-50 years.
>>75257277
Atlantic Canada is very Anglophillic in it's mannerisms with the exception of Quebec; less so Ontario, it's the far west and centre that are the Ameriphiles.
I can see then becoming a republic and frankly I wouldn't blame you since we abandoned our kin in 1931 and left you to your own devices.
But I think it would be a very long time before it considered itself American. - Ut Incepit Fidelis Sic Permanet
>>75257277
Yes we'd be much, much better if we just continued to be allied with or straight up joined the United States. Pretty much everyone except the most retarded of Canadians seems to know this.
Guess what everyone thinks of Australian culture: no one fucking cares about it. No one knows about it. The only Australian person I know of is Sia and that crocodile guy. Also people here only talk about British people to make fun of them. We do however, love the shit out of America, even if we make fun of each other all the time.
Meanwhile Canada has been the most successful meme nation of all time. We gave the world Drake, The Weeknd, Justin Bieber and Meme Minister Trudeau. Also we're about to win the NBA.
No one in Canada gives a single shit about the royal family anymore. We're happy being cold and drinking Tims and smoking our almost-legal weed.
>>75257358
England didn't matter in WW2. England doesn't matter now. America always matters.
>>75257787
>England didn't matter in WW2. England doesn't matter now. America always matters
We've watched over Europe for a thousand years; like I said the US was an Isolationist nation prior to the 1890's and even failed to invade Canada; it'spost war boom from it's pillaging is over, it had it's place in the sun.
>Pretty much everyone except the most retarded of Canadians seems to know this.
No literally just you; you're either a yank or Quebecois, and also like I stated before the majority of your countrymen know where their loyalities lie - Ut incepit fidelis sic permanet
>>75258409
No dude I'm like 99% of Canada. As in the vast majority of Canadians really could give less of a flying fuck about the royal family. We make fun of British people all the time even if we like their rock stars. The exception I would say is women who like to read gossip magazines so they can check out prince charles. Admittedly if there was a hot princess maybe we'd give more of a shit, but there isn't, so we don't.
I'm not American or Quebecois. We enjoy being the meme nation.
>>75258830
> I would say is women who like to read gossip magazines so they can check out Prince Charles
>Prince Charles
This is Prince Charles......
Yank proxy confirmed
>>75258830 ^^^
Lol you are a huge fucking cuck
>>75259061 Not you, the Canadian faggot
>>75258830
>Hold up dear chap
>Where are all the colonial phillies?
>>75259170
No worries pal.
>>75257787
>England didn't matter in WWII.
Hey! You're right! Forget about the North African campaign that deprived Germany of oil, thus forcing them to invade Russia! Forget about Britain stopping Germany from taking them, then America! Forget about D-Day! Yep, Britain was useless.
>kys
>America always mattered
Not in the periods between 1776 and 1942.
>England doesn't matter now
You should know about the implications Brexit has. You should know about the wars in the Middle East and all those conspiracies. After all, you're posting on /pol/.
>>75255144
Kind of sad. Representative democracy is a failure.
The only way I see democracy working is if were in a city-state where the sense of community would be much stronger. But within the uneducated masses of nations today it's a complete sham.
I want to see a return to absolute monarchies without regard to the mob of people voting for handouts their country be damned.
>>75259061
yeah dude no one fucking knows or cares who these people are
i don't remember the fucking name of these people.
does it not register to you yet that we could not give less a shit about your royal family
i don't think you guys get it, canada just likes to do it's own thing. the only country we genuinely, almost universally seem to like is America. even though we joke about America, we don't have it in us to hate them.
>>75259122
>i'm so proud to have willingly sucked the cock of the queen for centuries
>>75259281
in UK breaks off from EU it will have been the only useful thing they've done for themselves in the past 100 years. that's why zionist president obama keeps telling you not to do it.
>>75259334
obviously 2 nukes wasn't enough for you damn imperialists
>>75259334
>I want to see a return to absolute monarchies
Do you want to get nuked again?
>does it not register to you yet that we could not give less a shit about your royal family
Despite the fact we are having a conversation about them that you started. Like I said, you're a mnority pal and thank god.
>>75257787
Lol I would be willing to bet that in every country in the world outside Canada, including the US and Mexico, significantly more attention and interest is given to Australia than Canada.
You are a literal cuck openly advocating for the annexation of your nation. What a faggot.
>>75257787
we cracked enigma and bombed berlin
we played a vital role..we was the top 3! UK USA and the USSR
twas you whom played a lesser role my little leaf
>>75259393
Firstly, you're not Canadian, you're American - we can all tell you're a proxyfag.
Secondly, I'm pretty sure stopping German's expansion and winning WWII was pretty fucking important. That being said, yes - it's us vs. the globalists. And, if you've noticed, Obama had to beg and plead for us to stay, which just goes to show the position and power America has now.
>>75257068
>t. American on holiday in Toronto
>>75259393
Lol how come Canadians spend such an inordinate amount of time by trying to distance themselves and differentiate themselves from the Yanks largely through socialist government programs. "Muh free healthcare!" etc. You people, lacking in an organic national identity as you do, are united only in your chip on the shoulder and dislike for America. The exception being massive cucks such as yourself lol.
>>75259334
The girls at the back look like they were in Battle Royale.
>>75259718
Indeed it will be the most significant setback faced by the globalists if you people retake your sovereignty. After 70 years of continuous victories this could be the start of the unravelling of their flagship project. Hopefully, in their desire to hold onto power, they do not become violent in their attempts to retain control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rgPrcFDUwk
>>75259530
i can guarantee you right now the average canadian couldn't name 3 members of the royal family. that's including the Queen. most of us don't remember what her name is.
we could all definitely name the last 3 presidents and prime ministers of canada though.
you have no idea what canadians are like, ahmed. if you want you can come visit here and enjoy the richness of canuck culture for itself.
>>75259629
this delusion is amazing.
most people usually just forget australia is there. canadians simply enjoy exporting our pop culture icons and actors and living in snowland
>>75259718
>>75259728
i don't get it, do people outside of Canada actually think we fetishize the royal family or something?
no one here cares about them.
also LOL at the concept of Americans vacationing in Canada. They hate coming here, they always bitch about how cold it is!
>>75259805
we don't dislike america. we like canada. only the most cucked canadians spend all day talking about how awful america us. most of the hardworking decent people I know have a ton of respect for Americans/America. we just happen to like living in Canada/being Canadian.
yes we do like our socialist health care though. we like being different from America, but we do love America. You see American flags next to Canadian ones all over Canada.
>>75259210
reminder he got cucked by a dunecoon
>>75260167
>no one here cares about them.
Probably because their own monarchy was deposed prior to WW1.
>>75260167
We don't think you love the royal family, but we do at least expect you to respect them.
>>75257086
>>75257277
Just click on the post numbers newfriend.
>>75260452
ok here's a spoiler alert: most of us don't respect them. most of us can't name them, even though we have cities named after them. most of us can't understand the fascination the rest of the world has with them. our prime minister hangs out with them only for diplomacy reasons.
we have more respect for this guy and jbiebs than your kings and queens.
>>75260699
>your kings and queens.
>your
Also yours, traitor.
>>75260766
This, even it's strange to hear it from an American.
>>75260451
>Probably because their own monarchy was deposed prior to WW1.
Whos? Ours? You do realised they changed the name of the house officially to Windsor and dropped the Saxe-coberg & Gotha.
They weren't deposed. They just changed their names.
>>75260174
the winsors sent him their regards
>pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O59SiA4Yg0A
>>75260766
You feeling alright Jan key? Normally there is an Eagle or a "Fuck you" by now.
>>75260766
we can't even remember what the woman's name is and she's on all our money.
seriously do people not get that Canadians just basically enjoy being America's hat? People here remember and respect Chretien, Harper (yes he still has his fans) and Trudeau (both). we have 10x more love for American Presidents than any member of the royal family.
Canada 100 years ago is not Canada today. I don't get why you guys don't get that.
>>75260876
Not American.
>>75260929
I was implying that he's Chinese.
>>75261058
>we can't even remember what the woman's name is and she's on all our money.
So really the issue is just that you're an idiot with Alzheimers?
>we have 10x more love for American Presidents than any member of the royal family.
Which makes zero sense.
>>75261058
Proxyfagging is off the scale pal, either that or you've never left the house.
Jews hate monarchies for a reason. It's for the reason op describes. Monarchies have long lost their political say, and many of them have actually become Jew pawns (The British Queen mother walks around with Mason symbolism in clear sight is a good example) but to the collective consciousness they still represent the ultimate goy power that the Jew has no immediate power over. That's why they hate royalty with a passion and also why OP feels the way he feels.
>>75261058
correction
YOU cant remember
>>75261198
>The British Queen mother walks around with Mason symbolism
Other way around, since Masons idolise the monarchy.
>>75261058
>We're more proud of being America's hat
>Posts a picture of a Canadian book making fun of yanks calling Canada, America's hat
Real smart, this only solidifies my belief you're a yank.
Alright this is my last post before I go play Overwatch. Since you guys are all clearly ignoramuses who don't understand the first thing about the glory of Canada, I'll just succinctly explain it to you.
Your monarchy basically means nothing here. This picture is the most Canadian thing you will ever see with your own eyes, barring perhaps a blue jay flying over a beaver dam in the northern sunset.
This is an Asian immigrant, who has in a fit of rage, destroyed a kiosk of the oldest bank in Canada with a hockey stick, because the Vancouver Canucks lost.
This image explains everything you need to understand about 21st century Canada.
No one cares about the monarchy or the royal family, they have basically accomplished nothing and are entirely irrelevant to everyone. Like Sherlock Holmes made a conscious effort to remove unnecessary information from his brain, so have we Canadians removed the names of your monarchs from our collective memories; they don't serve us at all. We care more about the dudes who play hockey, our meme popstars and the dudes who actually run the world and make an impact on Canada (American Presidents).
OK continue shitposting, my work here is done.
God Bless Canada, God Bless America and God Save Donald Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sbYvMkUFPA
>>75261534
>Your monarchy
Again, it's yours too, Chinky.
>This image explains everything you need to understand about 21st century Canada.
That you're a bunch of Asians who have turned into negroes? Kinda got that impression from your posts, old boy.
>we Canadians
Oh sweetie... You're not really Canadian.
>they have basically accomplished nothing
I thought it was meant to be the USA with the poor historical education?
>>75261534
this cuck is eager to throw away his culture and heritage so he can usher in the new age of cuckdom...the next PM will be so progressive now that even trudeu will look like hitler compared to them lol
The day Canada becomes a republic, which I am certain will happen within my lifetime, is the day that the country is dead to me.
>>75261129
>I was implying that he's Chinese.
Ah. good show.
>>75256079
>jokes on you
>>75261937
Self determination is the single most defining characteristic of a free man. Do not fear the responsibility, embrace it.
>>75261198
>The British Queen mother walks around with Mason symbolism in clear sight is a good example
The Queens mother died years ago and was accused of being a Nazi sympathiser; having showed the right hand salute in public.
>>75261937
same mate...im not turning my back on tradition and history just to please some regressive leftists and celeb worshiping yanks
>>75262040
Are you trying to say that Americans have more personal freedom but virtue of being a republic? Sounds like nonsense. The most repressive shit holes on the planet are republics.
>>75262964
We have more personal freedom because we are a constitutional republic. A republic without inalienable rights is just a modern day feudal system.
>>75263102
>We have more personal freedom because we are a constitutional republic
But your constitution gets trampled on all the time? And you have nothing to save you from your "elected" government.
The only rights anyone can have are those they can take for themselves.
>>75263194
>Your
Are you using a proxy?
>A republic without inalienable rights is just a modern day feudal system
Exactly. and inalienable rights never last.
>>75263514
Business trip. Taking dirty republic money back to the glorious Commonwealth.
>Exactly. and inalienable rights never last.
But the illusion of them does. And that's why yanks are so complacent.
>>75263194
I wouldn't say we are defenseless against elected government officials. The majority of our military are loyal to the people, rather than to the government. Our second amendment enables us to bear arms, an important deterrent to any hostile takeover/overstepping by our leadership. Having 50 million pissed off armed constituents coming to take a piece out of your ass is enough to stop them from getting too cute.
>>75263808
>The majority of our military are loyal to the people, rather than to the government.
I would agree. But it's not so black and white. The media would most likely not allow a full scale us v them fight. They'd cut any dissent into pieces until it's all quashed.
>>75256961
Somehow I feel like the Brits and the Australians are friends, and Canada is just some kid who goes to the same school as us.
>>75258830
I actually can't think of a Canadian person off hand
>>75264381
To be honest I've met some solid lads from Atlantic Canada, salt of the Earth folk not unlike Northerners here; or people outside of Melbourne and Cambera there.
>>75263633
Good stuff; GSTQ.
>>75256764
t. Bloc Quebecois
Seriously though, isn't that their platform?
>>75265180
Republican Francophile independant nation in the Province of Quebec.
Literally Cancer.
>>75255144
I just don't see the point of a monarchy. Making someone superior because of them having 'royalty' is just stupid and are just glorified celebrities.
A leader should earn a position of leadership through hard work, intelligence and determination. It's a shame that no leaders have this these days as royals and politicians are all useless.
At least a monarchy makes money from tourism.
