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Another great piece by the mastermind himself.
Great points and arguments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cdN3j3mYOw
Discuss
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Nobody?
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>>75187361
>>75188979
Not an argument
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I just watched his "Never Trump Always Fails" video. Holy fuck the caller in that video was infuriating. The kid just wouldn't admit he was an idiot.
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>Stefan giving tribute to Gord Downie

BASED
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>>75188979
ill give it a listen
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>>75187361

I like his face at the beginning.
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>>75189021
Also not an argument.
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Would have thought you stormfags would be all over this https://youtu.be/j66sjmtjdVU

Its about jooos
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>>75189677
This is not an argument either
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>>75190826
Not an argument Ola.
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>enjoy listening to stefan, believe he uses logic and facts to prove a point
>very good arguments, enjoy the 'not an argument' meme
>think his rantings on spanking are a bit weird
>watch his joe rogan interview
>realise he is an absolute fucking crazy nutjob cult leader
>realise there are entire documentaries about his cult
>realise that someone from my hometown ran away from their family under his influencee

what the FUCK!
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>>75191320
not an argument
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>>75191320
DEFOO THE JEW
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>>75191320
>go to the video
>no counter arguments
>go to the comment section
>no arguments found
>read your post
>still no argument
It's not even a meme at this point, it's a great tool to BTFO JIDF shills and redditors.
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>>75187361
At last a short episode, with only a single caller who is not a woman, was well spoken, only had an unrelevant amount of accent and most importantly could stay on the point.
Overall great episode, I rate it 8.5/10.

>>75189021
>>75189677
>>75190826
>>75190975
Argumentum ad non-argumentum

>>75191320
Nem egy érv.
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gets me everytime
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>>75191248
Hahaha love it. Whoever made this needs to send it to him.
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https://youtu.be/1CxwUXP7p1g
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>>75192126
>Whoever made this
Are you trolling, blind or really that new?
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>>75191952
Save Sauber instead of Stefoposting this much, Mountain Jew.

>>75191248
>Whoever made this
Hi, I hope you enjoy this particular board on the forum of 4chan and will learn many interesting things from other posters and even make some great friendships over the internet.
Regards
Micheal ;-)
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>>75191770
It's also a tool to make yourself come across as a moron by overusing it when it's not even correct
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The leader is an atheist and anarchist and instills a lot of fear in the listener about the government and other institutions. He has predicted imminent economic and political collapse.

Molyneux preaches that bad parenting is the cause of all of societies' problems. Through verbal manipulation within the podcasts, as well as one-on-one conversations with listeners, he frames his listener's childhoods as prisons and the parents as manipulative, sadistic guards.

He claims to have the ultimate key to happiness. His solution is called a "defoo", which includes removing all friends and family who don't conform to the new worldview of mass parental corruption. This action is expected of listeners who truly value freedom and integrity, although Molyneux now publicly states it is only recommended under the supervision of a therapist and in the most extreme circumstances.

Levels of membership with special access to high level content for highest paying members Philosopher Kings (over $500).

Molyneux's wife was recently found guilty of professional misconduct for her Ask A Therapist podcasts on Freedomain Radio. A press report of her discipline hearing:
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>>75192593
-There is little direct physical contact with the leader, but listening to the podcasts, which are very exciting for many new members takes years.

-There are more than 2,000 podcasts, plus books and videos full of information to get through. Members listen for hours every day.

-The association of members is not directly controlled, but most members who become deeply involved drastically change their behavior.

-The leader and followers are certain that everyone in the world is repressing child abuse and needs to face it. If friends and family are not on board with this theory, they should not be associated with.

-Molyneux argues that if someone supports the government, he or she is okay with the listener being killed or imprisoned for disagreeing.

-Listeners are also encouraged to bring their problems to the leader during a weekly Sunday morning call-in show.

-There is a high-level of social pressure to agree with the group.

-Members are praised for their bravery and intelligence when they defoo, and are ex-communicated when critical of the group.
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>>75192659
-Deception: He lies about his critics, framing them all as child-abusing internet trolls.

-There was also a recent controversy with his therapist wife, who at one point hosted a series of FDR podcasts, called "Ask A Therapist". One day, all of the podcasts including her were removed and any inquiries on the forum were removed without answer. A couple years later, it came out that she was found guilty of misconduct by the Canadian Board of Psychologists for the type of advice she gave in the podcasts. Molyneux still refuses to mention it.

-It was reported that his neighbors found out about freedomain radio and after one of them found a video of their child on his website, warned all the other neighbors not to associate with him. He has since moved, but hasn't mentioned any of this to his listeners.

-All critics of his work are dismissed.

-Compartmentalizing of Info: There are various levels of information gained based on donation status. There is also a secret inner-circle, called "Friends of FDR", which is only granted to members Molyneux "trusts".

-Extensive use of cult-generated podcasts, books and videos.
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>>75187361
The great philosopher stefan memeux (no arguments be upon him)
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>>75192749
-There is a lot of heavy indoctrination in the first 200 podcasts or so.

-A lot of manipulative, black and white thinking is present.

-He suggests you either love your family and have nothing but good thoughts about them, or you feel immense obligation, hatred and/or boredom around them.

-He frames collective childhoods as all bad, the government as all bad, and religion as all bad.

-Us vs. Them thinking is ever-present, which leads to many members isolating themselves.

-Lots of loaded language and catch-phrases, like "everyone knows everything about everyone" and "against me" and "the gun in the room".

-He also heavily demonizes parents and the government.

-Although the group claims science and reason as its highest ideals, they are extremely closed to criticism.

-In a personal email with the leader, he told me he hasn't read any critical sites in years, yet knows that they are filled with hatred, toxic and disturbing content (not true).

-They absolutely claim to have the only answer to life's problems and are very elitist and condescending to other view points.
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>>75192811
Emotional control occurs while listening to the podcasts and watching his YouTube videos.

-He constantly shows animosity towards the government, religions, families and friends, while playing the empathetic hero.

-He sympathizes when his listeners call in with problems and inevitably traces the issues back to the parents.

-Any doubts members had were blamed on their traumatic histories.

-We all supposedly had Stockholm syndrome and were manipulated into loving our abusive families, which explained when a member would want to return or felt guilt over cutting off contact.

-Stefan Molyneux never seems to take responsibility for a conflict or problem.

-He ignores ex-member testimonies posted on critical sites, even testimonies from inner-circle members.

-Guilty feelings or anything that could cause doubt were blamed on the member. I talked myself out of feeling guilty and homesick hundreds of times over almost 4 years.

-There is quite a lot of guilt used to persuade members to defoo and to donate. If they truly cared about children and the future, they would make personal sacrifices.

-There was a recent controversy where Molyneux posted a sad face on his Facebook page over a $2 donation, which many took as ungrateful. He then went on a diatribe on his Sunday call-in show about how tortured everyone who criticized him must be and how much sympathy he has for all their awful childhoods.
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>>75192250
>stuttering nu-male repeats "stefan is dangerous" for the 6th time after still not providing any arguments

>>75192561
Yup, which is not the case when it comes to my post. There's also no "overusing" when it's simply facts to state. Also your opinion on this "tool" is highly irrelevant as you do not seem to understand the purpose of it.
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>>75192930

-There is massive fear among FDR members. I was very afraid of everyone in the outside world, causing me to lose my job.

-Fear of economic and social collapse is fostered.

-There is also serious fear of rejection, especially for those who've isolated themselves otherwise.

-There is also fear of our own "false self", which might cause us to act out and cause harm to ourselves and others.

-There is a euphoric happiness that many people experience when experiencing the ideas of FDR for the first time.

-There is a sense of leaving a lot of old baggage behind, but there is also a lot of depression and other problems amongst these same members.

-I am aware of at least one suicide and one attempted suicide within the group.

-He creates a dependency on the group by stressing that leaving will result in a kind of soul death. By leaving or not joining or committing further, you're killing your true self and any chances of happiness and healthy relationships.

-People who leave are either completely ignored or deemed lost causes. In any case, it is never the group's fault that a member leaves.
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>>75187361
Why woman support socialism?

Because Socialism sounds amazing when you don't bother to do an in-depth analysis of it... and the videos over 30 minutes long
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>>75187361
What the FUCK

seems like every time in the last week or so I start watching a Daily Molymeme video, there's already a thread about it on /pol/ by a SWISS FLAG

what is this??
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>>75191248
Oh lord wtf. Benny G strikes again!

I've never seen one but this cartoon made me want to watch a Molyneux video

Where to start? Does he actually have any good ones?
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>>75187361
>Do you come from a jewish background?
>uh no.
>ok. wew.
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>>75193045
go link me to the archives, because this is the first time I've started one.

>>75192991
nice sources, especially in the presence of facts and arguments. you won't smear my thread any furter, action has been taken.

>>75193028
>Because Socialism sounds amazing when you don't bother to do an in-depth analysis of it.
And that's more or less what he's doing in the video when it comes to women, so where's the problem?
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>>75193380
Memeux:

>We don't need any government

>We need to protect our national borders from immigrants
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>>75193380
>so where's the problem
He tries to give an in-depth "Philosophical" argument but his argument has no credibility and is filled with nothing but assumptions when the thesis statement sums up the point better than he did the entire video and also explains why people in general may support socialism

over 30 minutes was not needed
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>>75193490
>We don't need any government
>how do we fund roads
>I DON'T KNOW LOL THE SLAVE TRADE THE SLAVE TRADE
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>>75193490
He says he's ok with a small goverment.
Borders can be protected without goverments.
And even if, currently we have very big goverments and they fail to do so. So what's your point again?

>>75193555
No, those are not assumptions my man.
Simple observations, but apparently the media propaganda machine fucked up your head so much you can't tell apart from black and white anymore.
It might not be very in-depth on a philosophical level, but it is still correct and makes it easy to understand for the average joe.
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>>75193049
His 3 part videos on r/K stategy, I think it's called "Gene Wars".
His videos on IQ.
His the "Truth About..." series.
Check out his organized playlists on his Youtube channel.

If you're masochistic and/or never want to turn blue pill regarding women, check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J59XD9x_Vc

He may seem like an "asshole", unempathic towards the guy, but that is only because he knows well he's an ultimate beta and will defend her till the end so he has to talk with the woman for her to reveal her true self.
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>>75194077
information through empirical observations are assumptions

Most of modern day science is an assumption even man made climate change
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>>75194176
All humans are k-type. We have a very long gestation period (9 months) and only have one child per birth. R-types have large litters and have short gestation periods. When talking about the difference between r/k you're talking about different species. Memeux is just retarded. Not only that, but the r/k theory is not even considered valid in modern ecological models.
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>>75194521
It's a model for understanding cultural and psychological discrepancy within the species. It's a heuristic, you fucking moron. Why do I have to explain this shit to you? Do you argue against generalities by saying that you know an exception, too?
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What does /pol/ think of based Bill Whittle?

Is he redpilled?
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>>75191320
enjoy your copypasta
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>>75194716
No, r/k selection theory was a model for ecological populations in the wild. Memeux just try to (fallaciously) apply it to humans.
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>>75194753
Why do you ask this in every SINGLE thread?
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>>75194853
I give up, you're not going to understand. I should be working on my doctoral thesis anyway.
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>>75195222
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
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anyone posting rare Mollies?
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>>75187361
Why do people keep calling some random Yotuber a cult leader? Why are they so afraid of this man?
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>>75194468
>information through empirical observations are assumptions
This is some common core type bullshit. Especially when it's about the past.
His observations are often on facts.
By your argument, everything is an assumptions and nothing wrong or right.
You just cried over the video being not philosophical in depth enough, so how can it be if everything has to be based on facts and studies?
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>>75194853
Wow, we have a Reddit SJW in this thread? Naice..naice!
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>>75195346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KZnZwyBck
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>>75194176
>r/K stategy
Already know about that from the "triggering the raw amygdala" thing by anonymousconservative.com

or was it .org, who cares
>>75194176
>His videos on IQ.
>His the "Truth About..." series.
probably gonna check out these then

thanks man
>>75194853
Yet it works, even with human populations. The theory accurately describes the difference between the hypersexual subhuman and the highly selective aristocrat.
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>>75195440
they come from reddit or just watch thunderfaggot
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>>75195440
I feel like one part is stupid redditors or sheeps in general that watch his videos without questioning the content, just following what he says. It doesn't apply to everyone and every situation. The other ones (the videos) are just JIDF shills paid to defame him.
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>>75195630
>Yet it works, even with human populations. The theory accurately describes the difference between the hypersexual subhuman and the highly selective aristocrat.
proof
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>>75195483
>His observations are often on facts.
>Observations of facts
So it's an objective observation and not an empirical one?

Things that can be statically measured or determined are facts my Neutral friend.
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>>75194716
>It's a heuristic
>>75195222
>I should be working on my doctoral thesis anyway.
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>>75187361
I like his stuff. I really do. Subscribed to both of his channels.

honestly, why didn't somebody like this exist in my life when I truly needed a voice of reason back when I was 21 and knew nothing about politics or women?

seriously now. it's fucking depressing.
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test
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>>75195833
Empirical observations can be a fact, because you can measure those statically as well.
For a significant study, you do not need 100% of the things in question.
And last, in order to make a statement or conclusion, you have to switch from objectively to partial.
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>>75187361
ONE FUCKING DOLLAR
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>>75196795
There is no partiality in objectivity unless it is about the consequences of an event

empirical observations can only become fact when you can consistently prove or determine what causes them

not go back to eating haggis or cheese or whatever you Swiss people eat
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>>75195630
>highly selective aristocrat
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>>75192509
>that flag

you're not Mike
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>>75195794
It is exactly like the theory suggests in all welfare states, which means everything except the far East at this point. The dumb fucks make a shitload of kids that all grow up to do just that. The smart fucks make one or two, and ensure that they dont end up like the dumb fucks.

It is a flawed system, but that's the way she goes.
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>>75189045
Pretty bad, I'd like to think that the guy just didn't know how to respond at the end and dropped the call instead of just being cut off.
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>>75197296
>There is no partiality in objectivity unless it is about the consequences of an event
That's literally what I just wrote. In order to name the consequences, you need to go partial
>empirical observations can only become fact when you can consistently prove or determine what causes them
Exactly what I wrote again, you ever heard the term a significant study and how it counts as objective perspective and fact?
>le ad hominem because bootyblasted
Leave the arguing to the big guys, redditor.
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>>75197657
That's right, he's Mikész Feyérpasztákygyor
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>>75187361
steffie throwing a tantrum as usual

I skip all his call videos. the only good ones are some of his "the truth about x" and similar videos where he presents actual facts with sources
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>>75187361
NOT
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>>75194911
because its probably bill himself
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When will Molly officially tackle the JQ?
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Donald Trump will bring prosperity back to America. We will all be rich again, just like it use to be!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOKb1IXJpo


..,.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cdN3j3mYOw
19:50, Stef is an absolute banter merchant.
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>>75192314
Give dude a break, there has to be a first time. Welcome our brother to the wonders of Ben.
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>>75195346
I remember seeing the html version of it. You should try to find it and make a more clean edit.
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hump
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Ad hominem; not an argument.
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>>75203752
nice meme, stef
I almost missed it!
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4chan you suck ; my replies are always ignored.
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even this jobless bald man that hates women and makes videos for free on youtube managed to get a wife

what is your excuse, /r9k/?
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>>75206648
>4chan you suck ; my replies are always ignored.
Not an argument.

>>75206705
He had a job when he got married. He is also alpha enough to trigger people so hard they believe he is a cult leader.
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Is Mollynew still ancap/pure anarchist?
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>>75206911
he is a cult leader though
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>>75195346

>posting rare


Rare was the day we didn't hear a merry tune whistling from Stefo's service pit.
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>>75207063
Prove it
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>>75192749
>>75192659
>>75192593
>>75192811
>>75192930
>>75192991

Who gives a fuck if there is a "cult" around him?

I was raised in a cult much MUCH more extreme than you are describing and I and all of my siblings turned out OK.

In fact I think when the host society is the way it is now, an actual cult may be needed and well justified.

I've actually given some thought about making one of my own.


But believe me, what you're describing can't really be termed or called a cult at all. This stuff is very vanilla.
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good luck angula.
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Stefan is a hollow man with only logic and arguments running trough him. He lost his soul and humanity which makes him a nutjob.
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>>75204543
Yeah, a first time to LURK MOAR. gtfo
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Pillage and rape then? Capctha is STOP ???
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>>75194077
No, he says he is an anarchist, and is struggling with the NAP which is why he can't submit to a state. I respect his purity, but he isn't clear whether he is a minarchist or an anarchist.
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>>75208509

>states reorganize land ownership forcing former peasants into cities
>glut of labor drives wages to nothing

If it was a free market to start with the wages wouldn't have been forced so low. State control always causes misery.
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Stefan Molyneux admits to being jewish
http://youtu.be/edtWe759KIw?t=57s

Stefan Molyneux runs a cult where he convinces vulnerable people who had a decent childhood that they were abused by their parents
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/15/family-relationships-fdr-defoo-cult
http://youtu.be/Spe9JbmDOms?t=52m

Here's what happens when you give Stefan Molyneux money but not as much money as he wants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CM_--di7L8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znWSgJfsho

Stefan Molyneux Claims 'No War from 1815-1914 in Western Europe'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3T-SMoqc_M

Stefan Molyneux and defoo, defined (ignore the libertarian claptrap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPwjUmS7Vw

Stefan debates Stefan on whether or not concepts exist and contradicts himself left and right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1JdbGBFRs

Stefan Molyneux: "Fuck physics, make iPhones."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDoIilJ-_Z0

Stefan Molyneux: "Nothing I say is original"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEq--iEm5oI

Stefan Molyneux tells followers to cut off all family that disagrees with his ideology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZASruN-mIA

Stefan Molyneux believes the world needs his show for its survival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVa8VtsSQZY

Stefan Molyneux forgives his mother by not killing her
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jIMLKBVt00
Stefan Molyneux caims he doesn't think about his mother any more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HvUE5Odb9s

Stefan Molyneux initiates force, proving all of his moral arguments invalid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxT24kBnHD0

Joe Rogan, Stefan Molyneux Lied To You About DeFOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqCXpDFm4N0

Stefan Molyneux: A lot of people in my head are desperate for me to fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstVtJVItf4

Adventures in Stefan Molyneux's parenting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Aby3fpY8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXAxAxQ4HeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQvxz6gg4HA
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>>75210953


Y'KNOW

If you read between the lines it's pretty fucking obvious what happened:

He was abused as a child, either by his mother, or with her silent consent.


Now he wants to try and save other children from that sort of fate. That's why he is so focused on the children. That's why he feels so strongly about the issues he does.

And that is why he recommends cutting off family who stand in the way of what he sees as right.

>It seems pretty obvious to me, but what do you think?
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>>75192593
You're retarded if you don't think parental conditioning isn't a huge part of your personality and outlook. Your brain literally goes through a catalogue of events starting from childhood, including the rules of conduct your parents taught you, to determine what decision seems the best. If a large part of the population had shit-tier childhoods followed by an education in shit-tier public schools than society suffers.

The defoo thing is harsh but for certain people, especially those on track to living garbage lives, it's best to remove yourself from trash and work to surround yourself with forward thinking people.
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>>75192593
>>75192659
>>75192749
>>75192811
>>75192930
>>75192991

Jesus fuck if this really is a cult its the most pathetic one imaginable.

How fucking pussified and weak-willed do you have to be to entirely devote your life to the words of a random fucking youtuber?

Maybe if you "fall" for this shit you are already fucked in the head to begin with or fucking deserve it for being so stupid. Maybe the problem is you; not some lolbarian who's past time is ranting on the internet.
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>>75210953

Wow.

Why do Arabs hate Molyneux so much?

I mean how can you even have enough autism to gather all this info.
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>>75211514
>If you read between the lines it's pretty fucking obvious what happened:
>He was abused as a child, either by his mother, or with her silent consent.

Good catch Sherlock, it's not like he haven't already spoke about this 6 gorillion times.
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>>75187361
Excelent video. Redpilled me even more about women. Western civilization just gone crazy.
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>>75212977
I don't really listen that much.

Then his views and actions seems very reasonable considering the circumstances.

This is nowhere near the level of a cult.
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>>75212969
There are some people who thought they were rolling with the Stef Engine and one day they realized that they didn't become demigods, even after donating thousands of dollars to MolyMayMay.

Of course it is because Stefan is a cult leader, not because they're IQ 80 retards with self help junkie tendencies i.e. jerking themselves to self help stuff but doesn't practising what they have learnt in real life - possibly not because their lack of motivation but due to their inherent inability to implement it.

Stefan is a great mind and a true man.
But he is not some demigod, and solely listening to him without implementing what you have learnt - that is living a virtous life - you won't become better.

I think these people who accuse him of being a so called cult leader only do it because they thought that Stef alone himself will pull them out of the muf of your life. But none can do that, except for you yourself. Now they are sad and angry and there needs to be a scapegoat.

Of course he's not 100% right all the time.
And it is obvioushe suffers from the mental illness called libertarianism/anarchism because he was abused as a child and he projects the authority of a parent to the authority of the state - he won't accept it.

May he bring arguments to us foolish cattle and become a Traditionalist as time goes by.

Peace be upon his shiny head.
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>>75212969
I stole it from someone else desu
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>>75214231
>pull them out of the muf of your life
*pull them out of the mud of their lives*
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>>75214231
Mikész Feyérpasztákygyor please
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>>75214568
niečke árgumenćky
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>>75187361

Compare his old videos to his new videos. At this rate stef. will be a full blown fascist in about 5 years.
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>>75193580
The state does not need to fund roads through force, it only needs to appropriate them.
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>>75215187
>will be a full blown fascist in about 5 years.
More like 2 months till the ides of summer when the zerg rush will be unbearable.
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>>75215187
>>75216611
Someone needs to send him redpill material on jewish ritual murder, and pedophilia, and I guarantee he will lose it and become fully redpilled.

It should hit the right triggers for him to take the final steps.
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Donald Trump will bring prosperity back to America. We will all be rich again, just like it use to be! Watch***,.,.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOKb1IXJpo
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Anyone got that picture of a guy who looks like Stefan sucking dick?
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