Why shouldn't I vote for Bernie?
I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
I have student loans
I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
I believe that education should be free for all
Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
We need to close the loopholes
We need to get out of Afghanistan
We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
We can legalize weed
Everything about him has good stuff.
He wouldn't help with any of that.
You should.
>>75119148
Reddit is that way ---------------->
>>75119148
>muh free stuff
If you don't care to destroy your country go ahead.
>>75119148
You should vote for Bernie, vote for the candidate that best represents you and your interests, friend.
It's just one vote and it won't matter. Trump already won the media war and the Presidency, so it's not like you can stop him. A lot of billionaires are making power plays now, it's a new type of world order, where rich celebrity businessmen control the flow of information and public opinion.
People don't want politics or religion, they want gadgets, luxuries, new technologies, wealth.
Did Comrade Panders say debt forgiveness would be a thing or are all of his retarded sheep assuming free college means current debt will get released?
>>75119148
After everything that has happened, you still think they are refugees, were you dropped on your head?
>>75119148
>I'm a failure at life so I should vote for another failure.
>>75119148
>Why shouldn't I vote for Bernie?
Because the Trumpist secret police will find out and execute you.
Because he's not going to win and listening to the "not voting with your heart is throwing away your vote" meme is stupid.
>>75119434
just because there's one bad apple, we shouldn't ban the other 99.9% of good apples.
THESE DUBS are why shouldn't vote for the BernieBernMan >:^)
You have students loans. I don't.
Why should you get free money and debt forgiveness when I paid for school out of pocket?
Is Bernie going to retroactively pay me back?
>>75119148
He's a goddamn loser and a fucking communist, that's why you shouldn't. He has no place in America and might as well drop dead.
>>75119541
Sorry OP (lmao), I meant these dubs
>>75119148
>we need to help the refugees in syria
>>75119148
Because Hillary will win the primary.
>>75119606
lmaaooooooo jk fammoronis, THESE ARE THE DUBS I was talkin about hhahahaa
>>75119551
He'll probably give you a tax cut unless you're in the top two tax brackets. So there's that.
>>75119551
Because we all need to pool in our resources for the good of the nation. If anything Bernie is a true Nationalist. You can call him a National Socialist.
>>75119560
Communism /= socialism. Stop spreading propaganda.
>>75119661
haha lmao almost got triples, see? haha now for real this time LETS GO DUBSSSS
>>75119720
HA GOTCHA AGAIN. This post WILL have the actual dubs haha
>>75119716
>nationalist
>helping refugees
>>75119752
woop woop I meant this post
>>75119776
ALLLLLMMOOOOOOST, I meant this post will earn me dubs, plss thx
>>75119148
>I believe that education should be free for all
But that is nonsensical. Where do educations cone from? My nutsack? Each one of my sperms has a right to Healthcare, education, basic income too.
My responsibility ends at orgasm. Then it's somebody else's problem.
Your mind is wired like a dumb nigger
>>75119849
lmao I meant THESE dubs of course hahaha
>>75119875
yoooooo I was jking with that one haha, THIS POST will get me da dubs
>>75119520
Say you have 10 m&m's, 8 of them are poison, do you eat 1 and hope for the best?
>>75119952
GOTCHA AGAIN SCRUB, I meant this post will bring in dubs
>>75119978
just take these and stop
>>75120032
What's that? Dubs? I got some :^)
>>75119148
All of these are reasons why you shouldn't vote for this socialist Jew cuck.
>>75119920
>>75119978
you will never get it dude.
>>75120107
More like, not vote for a shill but vote for my dubbbbbs
>>75120137
NO SO LONG AS PEOPLE POST IN THIS OBVIOUS SHILL THREAD, I MUST PERSERVERE! DUUUUUUBS
>>75119148
Dude weed, lmao
>>75120251
nono, more like DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBS
>>75119716
>>75120300
Yooooo, but dubs tho amirite?
>>75119148
Because he cannot accomplish any of that and when the economic crashes you're also a victim
>>75120320
More like, when my dubs crash into your mum XDDDDDD
>>75120319
jealous?
>>75120032
Free education should not exist and is unsustainable in a pre-scarcity society. What determines who goes to what school since they all provide unequal services?
>>75120388
WHAT'D I TELL YA
D U B S
>>75120410
VERY
>>75119560
You have ten hours to explain how Bernie Sanders' proposed policies make him a communist.
>>75120443
LMAO FUCK OFF FAGGOT, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET TRIPLE DIPPLES HAHAHHA
>>75119148
Move to Europe and stop trying to make the US Europe.
>>75120486
You have ten millinias to explain THESE DUBS
>>75120505
More like, stop trying to make my dubs not dubs ,':^)
>>75120587
but fo real do, here dem duuuuubz
>>75120443
thas rite
>>75120647
thhhhhhhhaaas rite (my dubs)
>>75120464
Good job on bumping this shill thread
>>75120688
WOOOOOOOOBOIIII
>>75120700
I'm saging you stupid dubs having monkey
>>75119716
Bernie is NOT a Nationalist. He's boarderline Communist
>>75119148
If you make that small amount of money, Trump will cut taxes for you, you will pay almost nothing in taxes.
So what you have student loans? That doesn't make you special, you went to college with the understanding it cost a lot of money, and that you would benefit from that education to make more money. If you don't make more money, that burden rests on you alone
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE!!! How the fuck do you not understand that?? All that money that you or someone else will spend on healthcare or college, WILL come out of your paycheck eventually, that's how the free doctors get paid.
Education should not be free for all. It's a choice to better yourself. If degrees become free, they will inherently be worthless. Your degree will be worth less than the shoes you're walking in, and every fuck head out there will have the same degree you do, and you will never find a job.
What do you think is their fair share? 90% taxes, like bernies wet dream is? That is fucking absurd. Why don't you go work on wall street? You can do it if you wanted, but you don't. Why is that?
Uhh, we left afghanistan, but obama brought us back in. And Bernie has voted time and time again to send the US to war.
HAHAAH fuck the syrians! They need to stay and defend their fucking country! But you know deep down, they aren't refugees, they're looking for the fattest check, that's why they're going thousands of miles to Germany instead of going to their neighboring countries.
Nobody gives a fuck about weed. But you should not be allowed to have a single government benefit, if you do any drugs. If you can waste your money on drugs, you have enough money to buy anything else.
>>75120766
Holy shit tl;dr but check dese dubs do
>>75120793
nono meant these dubs
>>75119520
>not all muslims are accountable for a small few
>all police are bad because the actions of a small few
Typical bernout
>>75120840
wait, meant these
>>75120861
Typical dubs ;^)
>>75120866
OOOOOOOOOH BABY CHECK DEM DUBS
>tfw shill makes the most shallowest bait thread
>tfw a gorrillion people bite
>tfw all I can do is get these dubs
T_T7
>>75121007
GOTTA KEEP GOING NONSTOP DUBS CLIMAX
>>75121091
NONFUCKINGSTOP DUUUUBS
>>75121115
ALMOST FABLED QUADS LES GO DUBS
>>75121150
YO FOREAL DUBS ME UP FAMMME
>>75121177
DERE IT BE FAMME NOOOOOW THIS THREAD LIT AF!!!!
>>75121220
not until you beat this.
>>75119148
>Why shouldn't I vote for Bernie?
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
>I have student loans
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
>I believe that education should be free for all
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
>We need to close the loopholes
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
>If you make around 45,000 a year, that's not bad.
>I have loans too, 60,000+
>You might be willing to pay for healthcare, but are others willing to do the same? Will others pay for you? Do you want to pay for healthcare for criminals or people you despise. The USA is a capitalist country, so a good majority do not wanna pay for others.
>No, Education should not be free for all. I despise having to pay taxes for free education if the students were not serious about education. I refuse to pay for people to go to college for they can hookup, rape others, push stupid ideals, and/or drop out.
>Yes, they do and so do everyone else(Churches and businesses also). If a person or organization don't pay taxes, they should stay out of politcs.
>Yes loopholes should be close, but would Congress actually do it? Can the POTUS do it by him/herself?
>Yes
>Yes and no. We should help them but do not import in mass. Look at Europe and you will see why a mass import would be idiotic.
>If beer is legal, Prescriptions are still legal and over prescribed, why not legalize weed and tax it? Keep the less violent drug offenders out of jail and keep the murders and rapists in jail.
>He have to face facts and logic, he cannot beat Hillary(as much as I dislike her(not for being a woman, but for being a sack of shit)).
>>75121312
You enormous piece of shit. This thread was on page fucking 7 and you just bumped it. Legit consider writing your final will and biting into a cyanide pill. Also, check these dubs.
>>75119148
>Why shouldn't I vote for Bernie?
obvious bait but hes not even gonna get the nomination
>>75119148
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
you'll make less after tax increases. trump wants to cut income taxes
>I have student loans
bernie wants them forgiven and for college to be paid for through taxes
trump wants to make the colleges partly/largely responsible for your ability to earn income once you leave college to be able to pay down your student loans in a reasonable timeframe/manner
>I believe that education should be free for all
i believe it would in a way be *nice* for everything to be free, but we've seen time and time again that markets provide the most opportunity for the most people.
accreditation is still expensive, but education itself (thanks largely to the internet) is pretty much free.
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
they already do. further encumberances on them including taxes and regulation will hurt the whole american economy.
>We need to close the loopholes
agreed. reagan did this. we need to do it again. the problem with it is that complex and onerous regulations are quickly circumvented by large corps/banks to their benefit and to the detriment of smaller/new businesses in finance. we need simpler regulation and simpler tax schemes to make it harder to poke holes in the regulations and tax codes.
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
agreed. there is no US interest there unless you consider "surrounding afghanistan with our troops" is a US interest. I know I don't.>>75119148
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
not in the way you think. the cia and state department can leave, let assad win, and then they can go back home. additionally, you can do your part, but don't put that on everyone else to "do something"
>We can legalize weed
death penalty for weed, imo
>>75119148
I make even less than 45k a year. I was smart enough to know that I couldn't afford to go to college. Now you expect me to make even less so I can pay for your stupidity? Not only that, but you expect me to pay for your healthcare in addition to the plan I already have for myself?
And you couldn't just stop there, you appearently endorse the "wall street speculation tax." You don't even know what that will do to me, do you? See, most retirement plans work by matching or somehow compensating you in addition to the money you put into it. You know how they do that? PUTTING MONEY INTO THE STOCK MARKET. You not only want to fuck over me, you want to fuck over EVERYONE who has a 401k, pension, ect. but I don't really expect a bernout fresh out of college to know how a retirement plan works, not that you have any problem ruining it.
"Close loopholes" is as general as it gets but I assure you that anything Sanders wants to do will just ship more business overseas. In your bernout paradise you also appearently want me to pay for hundreds of thousands of migrants, refugees and illegals; how many of those do you think are actually going to work, or even have the opportunity to get jobs?
>legalize weed
Ok.
>>75119148
I'm going to try a real response.
>Why shouldn't I vote for Bernie?
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
>I have student loans
Why shouldn't I rob, rape, or murder? If I could get away with it? It's an important question, because it gets to the heart of the matter: Are there moral principles or not? Can your actions be good or bad in principal regardless of if they benefit or hurt you in particular?
The reason I bring this up is, it is possible that Bernie's policies might help you, but violate more basic moral principles and if this is true, you reject Bernie, even though he might be the best candidate for you, based on your life right now.
If you look at a graph of taxes as a percent of GDP over time, you'll see that they spiked around world war two, up from about 1% to 10%. Then, we fought the war, won, and taxes settled back down to their pre-war level.
No, wait. That didn't happen. After taxes spiked for world war two, THEY NEVER WENT DOWN. This is a basic principle that Grover Norquist outlines quite well. The government doesn't give back money, it just takes more and more.
For world war two we had a need for massive spending, so taxes shot up, and then, when the war was won, we basically just invented programs to spend government money - because the alternative was taxing less, and why should the government do that?
The government takes lots of taxes already, and they use it to do stupid stuff, or to do important stuff very poorly. Education is an example. The federal government gets involved in education and Americans spend more money per student then other nations, and have an abysmal and declining record in terms of standardized testing against the world and against past generations.
Monolithic bureaucratic organizations do not produce the best results - in terms of outcome or efficiency, and the federal government demonstrates that for us time and time again.
(To be continued.)
>>75122029
The government takes a lot of our money and wants more still. And remember, they want it for good. The government will take power, money, and authority, and start looking for more. It will never voluntarily look for ways to give that power back.
This should concern you. Right now you make a small amount of money and are worried about student loans. In ten years you'll make more, you might have a partner and have double the household income. The higher tax rates you lobbied for in your youth, so that the government could pay for people to learn about Gender Studies, won't seem like such a great deal to you then, and you will have to fight tooth and nail to claw that power away from the government. Of course, the kids then will want to give the government still more authority.
The student loan crisis isn't hard to figure out. It is the same root problem as why medical costs are so expensive in the US as compared to the rest of the world. The individual who makes the purchasing decision doesn't bear the immediate costs.
If you have insurance, you don't have to pay the full costs of your treatment. There is no incentive for health care companies to charge smaller prices, because you don't care what the costs are, past a certain point, you aren't paying it. In fact, they have the opposite incentive, because you don't care about the price, they can charge more. That's why a hospital room (the room alone, they'll charge separately for your nurses, drugs, doctors, supplies, etcetera) that you share with a seriously ill person costs more per night than most five star resorts.
Health insurance removes price sensitivity and prices soar. That's why something like ObamaCare completely fails to address the underlying problems of the American health care system. Mandating that people get insurance will make the problem worse, not better.
Analogously, "free" college will have a tremendously predictable result.
(Still more...)
>I have student loans
Bernie's not going to make existing loans disappear retard
>>75119716
0/10
your all fucking retarded jesus christ. bait
>>75123055
Dumbass, you really expect somebody to argue all 40 of your baseless smallminded arguments? Haha, faggot, kys.
>>75119148
No one is stopping from being a fucking retard OP. Please, by all means exercise your right to do so.
>>75123055
When you, or your parents, don't have to foot the bill, you will become price insensitive in terms of tuition. Instead, some nebulous entity, the tax payer, will be paying for college. What, do you think, will happen to tuition prices?
What do you think will happen to the quality of education? Suddenly, colleges have a new incentive - get as many people as they can. That's where the money is. Before, a long time ago, they had to provide a result (better life time earnings) that was worth what you paid in tuition. In the Bernie-future, they just have to provide something that you'll do, and they can charge as much as they possibly can get away with.
Instead of difficult, challenging courses, which would reward students with valuable skills and knowledge, college will move towards being easier. We wouldn't want our cash cows - I mean students, to fail out, would we?
Grade inflation at universities is already rampant. American higher education is in steep decline. Programs like "free" (i.e. more expensive) college will only exacerbate this trend.
A better reform would be to allow students to discharge student loan debt through bankruptcy, like you can with other kinds of debt. You take a loan because you think college will be worth it. If it turns out it wasn't, then declare bankruptcy, just like with any other kind of loan. The fact that you can't do this, and people like Bernie Sanders, who are ostensibly fighting for people with student loan debt, never bring this up should give the whole game away to you. Bankruptcy exists for a reason and students should benefit from it as well.
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
When we return to the earlier point, where you make less than 45,000 dollars a year, we can see that YOU aren't paying more for free health care (incidentally, what an oxymoron. Pay MORE for FREE health care?). Taxes are already overwhelmingly paid by the top income earners.
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>>75123758
Hey dumbass.
If every other 1st world country can do these things or more, guess what? So can fucking we. Stop licking the jew's boots and vote to tax the everloving shit out of them to invest in the middle class until things even out. It's that simple, we can smooth out everything else just like the Swedes, the Germans, the Dutch, and the French did. You are basically saying "There's no obvious solution so let's burn everything to the ground and pray le free market helps us out."
Fucking. Idiot. YOU ARE THE ONE TURNING THIS PLACE INTO MEXICO, NOT THE LEFT.
>>75123758
http://taxfoundation.org/article/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data
The top 10% of income earners pay 68% of all income taxes. Your contribution, at less than 45k a year, is effectively meaningless. YOU aren't the one paying more for "free" health care. The top ten percent, already paying for almost all of the federal government, would be tasked with paying STILL MORE for others to come and squander on "free" college and "free" health care.
Bernie is fond of saying that the rich should "pay their fair share" of taxes, which, when they already pay almost all of the taxes, is a bit infuriating. What is a fair share for the top ten percent to pay, if 70% is too low? Should they pay 80? 90?
I know your instinct is to say "They have all the money" and that's why they should be taxed. But implicit in that argument is the assumption that the government deserves to take money to run fool's errands like giving out "free" health care or "free" college.
If you want better outcomes for health care, so does everyone. We could solve it by relaxing onerous intellectual property rights that make drugs in the US cost fifty times more than other countries. We could reform rules around medical testing and experimentation that keep us from running animal trials, and make drug research cost tens of millions of dollars and take years to decades. We can keep reforms around pre-existing conditions and make similar reforms and undertake programs to make medical insurance available to everyone - if they want to pay for it. These projects would reduce the cost of medical care, and IMPROVE the outcome of it. Why aren't Bernie and friends concerned with these goals, instead of the goal of getting more "free" stuff?
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
I've addressed this above. The rich pay most of the taxes already. The idea that Wall Street needs to pay more is based on the tax rates on capital gains taxes, which are less than income taxes.
>>75119201
This
Bernie would be even more impotent than Obama
We have separation of powers, you know.
As much as Bernie wishes he was Stalin, there are serious limits to presidential power.
>>75119148
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
You'll make even less with Bernie's tax plan
>I have student loans
Get a fucking job loser
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
>pay
>free
>I believe that education should be free for all
It's called a loan.
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
35% isn't enough?
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
See Sweden
>We can legalize weed
Trump supports medicinal marijuana
Also, WEED DUDE
>>75121428
>>You might be willing to pay for healthcare, but are others willing to do the same? Will others pay for you? Do you want to pay for healthcare for criminals or people you despise. The USA is a capitalist country, so a good majority do not wanna pay for others.
You don't have a very good grasp of how health insurance works, do you?
>>75119148
because he already lost go hillary ayy lmao faggots
>>75124591
you literally have terrible, one-dimensional opinions. are you even old enough to vote?
>>75124477
>68% of all income taxes
>What is tax evasion and loopholes.
The rich have enough money to live like gods for the rest of their lives no matter what we tax them. They got that rich from extracting the wealth of everybody underneath them. General Electric got away with not paying a nick in taxes last year. These fucks deserve the high taxes, the revenue we get will go towards making working lives much easier, it's a win win no matter how much they like to bitch. But hey, I'm not as smart as Bill O'reilly right??
Boot. Licker.
>>75119148
>Willing to pay for free healthcare.
Those teeth. Holy fuck
>>75124591
>35% isn't enough
Fuck no. 90% would be better, these greedy jews own the means of production no matter what they do, their wealth is infinite, worker pay is not.
>>75124975
>these greedy jews own the means of production no matter what they do
You're right! Let them move to other countries with a lower tax! Who needs corporations anyway?
>>75124818
H-holy shit, oy gevalt, double dubs!
Bump for president Bernie fucking sanders
>>75124477
There are three reasons to keep capital gains taxes low. First, this is money that people have already earned and paid taxes on when they earned it. If you invest your salary and make a profit off of your investments, you are then asked to pay capital gains tax too. Second, investment is done based on the estimation of risk to reward. As capital gains taxes go up, the reward becomes smaller - you'll be paying an increasing share of that in taxes if the stock goes up, but your losses will be unchanged if the stock goes down. As the capital gains tax goes up, the risk to reward ratio of investing goes down. Maybe you don't know why you should care about that. That brings me to third reason, investments directly help the economy. Companies get money to do things by issuing stock (and bonds). When investors shy away from the market due to high taxes, companies can't do as much. When companies can't do as much, the economy doesn't produce as much.
>We need to close the loopholes
I completely agree. Loopholes favor the rich and powerful. You need lawyers and accountants to figure out the loopholes and how to exploit them and you need lobbyists to create the loopholes to be exploited. The tax code needs to be simplified and loopholes eliminated.
However, what you need to remember is that as you close loopholes, you should lower rates. Closing loopholes will increase the amount of GDP paid to government. If you increase that, you will never get the money back. So, as we close loopholes, lets lower rates. Both sides win, except for the people who exploit the system with accountants, lawyers, and lobbyists.
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
Agreed. We have seen a Democratic president who campaigned on being anti-war immediately start waging war with abandon on being elected. What makes you think Bernie won't turn out the same way?
(Still more...)
I can only sympathize with Bernie supporters who are attracted by his anti-war stance.
But when you realize all of his economic policies involve the use of/threat of force against private individuals who don't subscribe to his socialist utopia, it kind of falls in on itself
>>75125086
Then they can leave, but I'm sure Bernie will be able to cut the everloving fuck out of them before they go. Once that happens, and we've attained all of that extra revenue, the middle and working class will fill the business demand. Remember small businesses make up the majority of jobs.
Boot. Licker.
>>75125447
>it kind of falls in on itself
>source: your ass
>>75125489
And how would a small business survive under a 90% corporate tax?
>>75125310
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
If you really believed that you'd know that resettling refugees in neighboring countries is twelve times more cost effective than resettling them in the US. Whatever budget you want to allocate towards helping the refugees could help twelve times more people, without security risks, if you were in favor of resettling in the area. It would be better for the refugees, who would share a language, religion, and culture with their neighbors, and better for the people in the US who wouldn't take on the burden of people who don't necessarily speak English, let alone read or write it, with no college education, and a different culture.
>We can legalize weed
Sure, and we need to end the drug war entirely. This is an issue that some states, like Washington, are already handling well, and that other states are starting to. We should deal with weed and similar drugs at the state level where people have already proven they can be successful.
>>75125621
Clearly a 90% corporate tax is reserved for those in the upper-class.
Man, you really haven't thought any of this through haven't you? You just read memes on 4chan and paste maga hats onto shitty anime pictures.
>>75119148
>pay more for free
I can't deal with this
>>75125447
wahhh i dont like reality. fuck off.
>>75119148
Vote for bernie dude. He's going to win for sure
>>75125867
>he thinks corporate tax is progressive
>>75125608
>>75125962
you're fucking idiots who need to stay poor and buttmad
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
and after taxes you'll have even less. the median salary in the US is under $30k. it'll be your already meager salary that will be skimmed to subsidize the absolute lowlifes of your country who earn zero dollars from employment.
>I have student loans
ok. you took money from the bank and paid it to the university. now the bank wants it back, what's the issue? do you think it would just disappear? there is over 1 TRILLION dollars of collective student loan debt in the USA. it can never be erased.
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
>pay
>for free
ok
>I believe that education should be free for all
why? Who wants to pay for millennial shit heads to get useless shit degrees that won't make them any more useful or employable? you're just supporting robbing americans on a massive scale.
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
people making well above median salaries already pay a larger percentage of their earnings as tax. this has been fact for centuries.
>We need to close the loopholes
what does this even mean?
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
electing a communist is your solution?
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
why? your $45k per year ass is literally begging for free money and now you want to give some to 3rd world refugees too? you realize there's over 1 billion refugees in the world, right? are you going to feed all of them?
>We can legalize weed
great priorities, like you don't get high all day, every day anyway.
>>75125874
Yes a 5%-10% tax increase is totally worth it for all the free and dirt cheap stuff you get out of it. See Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, France.
It makes a gigantic difference with the working/middle class. Free healthcare, dental care, eye vision, college, paid family leave, more vacation time.
But leave it to a Trumpcuck to pass all this of up because muh the free market + personal responsibility.
>>75119148
You should vote for Sanders. There's no reason not to.
>lol but it's bad economics lol
The most detail economic examination of his policies predict massive growth.
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/What-would-Sanders-do-013016.pdf
>lol but companies and "job creators" will just move away lol!
You mean move their HQ and legal address to some tax shelter? They already do that. Sanders is vowing to go after those companies. As he rightly should.
>lol but he's a career politician lol!
So is Clinton. With a far worse record. And Trump is a career swindler and con man. Small surprise he's doing well in the political arena. And contrary to the talking line from pundits, being knowledgeable about business doesn't translate to being knowledgeable about national and global economics. Trump's policy recommendations of tariffs on imports, attempting to economically punish companies that outsource, defaulting on the debt, and tax cuts while massively increasing the military budget are proof of this.
>>75126349
>See Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, France.
all rapidly decaying shitholes with no demographic future
>>75124305
>If every other 1st world country can do these things or more, guess what? So can fucking we.
The countries that do socialized medicine well are countries that are (were) mostly homogenous, white, European powers, with relatively small populations in a small area of land. Norway, a beacon for the socialized medicine cause, benefits from massive nationalized oil wealth.
The US is spread out. That means more facilities, more employees, more overhead. The US has more people, that means more people are supported increasingly on the backs of the rich. The US is racially diverse, which means things like immigrant families with lots of children, people who come from cultures where exploiting the system at every opportunity is common sense, people who don't value education, or child care.
>vote to tax the everloving shit out of them to invest in the middle class until things even out.
No. It's ironic that your choice of insult is "Boot licker" given that you are the one clamoring for a more powerful government to take care of you. And, to take care of you at the expense of people who already pay for more than two thirds of the government.
Taxes are too high already. The government has enough funds and they've used them to produce subpar results.
>You are basically saying "There's no obvious solution so let's burn everything to the ground and pray le free market helps us out."
I haven't said anything of the kind. In fact, I offered alternatives to some of the ideas that Sanders puts forward that would promote good outcomes while simultaneously not requiring more taxation. The solution is not, necessarily, more government power, more taxation, etcetera. Bernie Sanders has no other cards in his deck.
>Fucking. Idiot. YOU ARE THE ONE TURNING THIS PLACE INTO MEXICO, NOT THE LEFT.
I never claimed that the US is turning into Mexico, or that the left is doing it. Instead, I've offered a rebuttal to the basic impulse to vote for Bernie.
>>75119148
He's a goddamn commie. If that's not enough for you to hate him on faith alone you simply haven't been paying attention.
The 20th century was the most deadly in all of human existence. Karl Marx is largely to blame.
>>75119148
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
Kek, it's secluded white liberal states like Vermont that force immigrants on the border and coasts, without actually having to deal with DIVERSITY themselves, isn't it?
>>75126345
>what's the issue?
that they want 70 fucking K + interest on average, you retard.
>ok
Yeah, it's still free healthcare for everybody. The tax increase is totally worth it but if you want to play semantics instead of having an argument, be my guest dumbass.
>why?
because a nation prospers with more educated individuals than less. because we can more than afford to make it free. because most people don't get shit degrees, retard.
>what does this even mean?
>t.avereage Trumpcuck, can't understand that the rich love to stash money in the cayman islands and Panama instead of paying what they really owe.
If I was this uninformed,I'd be voting Trump too.
>electing a communist
socialist, and yes, read a book.
>3rd world refugees too? you realize there's over 1 billion refugees in the world, right? are you going to feed all of them?
haha great strawman
>great priorities
it's literally free money you retard, plus the government should not be harassing drug users, that's their choice.
>>75126832
Yes, it has nothing to do with the nationalistic conflicts that occurred all over the globe during the first half of the century.
>>75126466
Massive taxes predict massive economic growth
Do you hear yourself
>>75119148
I like him, I really do. If we really want someone in there and hopefully tear down the establishment someone you need someone fearless and an asshole. Trump is portraying that man. Whether he is sincere or not is to be determined. We may soon find out.
Bernie is great, but he doesn't have that strength or showmanship. Playing nice does not work. Our enemies have told us that it does, but it clearly does not. They do not play nice, neither should we.
>>75126576
yeah, America is doing much better.
>ranks 20 places below each one in numerous categories.
>denmark is literally the happiest country in the world, but hey they're rapidly decaying right?
>>75127099
Read the study. Unless you actually don't have the economic understanding to make sense of it. If that's the case, you should probably stop talking about economics. Don't spread your ignorance.
>>75127099
It's called Fiscal Stimulation, you dumbass, have you ever heard of FDR. Dear Christ, thank god you're underaged and can't vote.
>>75119148
>make less than 45k
>need healthcare and oppose war
>support immigrants coming to take even MORE jobs when low skill and low wage labor is becoming increasingly irrelevant and unnecessary
almost everything on Sander's platform is rationally consistent (whether you like him or not) except immigration. how can anyone possibly believe that taking refugees is an economically sound decision while at the same time raising taxes and benefits? few people = better
>>75127057
A nation filled with gender studies degree recipients doesn't prosper it dies. Oh and you're a self hating white. Don't have kids and stay away from everyone else's. Don't need your toxic self destructive ideals anymore. Leave
>>75127057
4/10 considered replying until the very end
>>75127379
When he said education he probably meant real degrees.
>>75125489
Boot lickers indeed
>>75125621
Nobody is taking about a 90% tax you stupid fuck. We have some of the lowest corporate tax rates in the world and are getting cheated.
Go suck some more oligarch dick.
>>75127245
>>75127313
>fiscal stimulation
"Hey dude, there was no demand for this shit before, so we created it by force of arms and now our economy is bigger, lol!"
>>75119148
>I missed the deadline for california primaries
Gomen bernie
>>75127647
"real" degrees continue to see a minimal increase in enrollment as bullshit tier millennial shit is booming, and even starting to attack the sciences for not having enough diversity.
>>75126823
>Muh whites.
>The US is spread out. That means more facilities, more employees, more overhead. The US has more people, that means more people are supported increasingly on the backs of the rich.
>actually defending the rich jews.
>being this cucked.
So then tax the fuck out of them and tax Americans a little more.
>you are the one clamoring for a more powerful government to take care of you.
Yes because the free market is a meme at this point, globilization + the abundance of labor has caused buisness owners to run rampant with profit while shitting on the middle class, see Flint, Michigan. Government is by the people, for the people, if my tax money is helping to fund these programs, I'm not the boot licker, you are.
>Taxes are too high already. The government has enough funds and they've used them to produce subpar results.
Yes and Bernie will shift priorities like he's been saying AND do even more with the extra revenue.
>not, necessarily, more government power, more taxation
Yeah, let's keep sucking the one percent's dicks and pretty please wish that they treat us better. What are financial crashes? What are companies evading taxes? What is a starvation minimum wage? The rich have proved they don't have morals or believe in charity, it's time we have a say in the means of production, true democracy.
>>75127648
Bernie seems to align his interestes with the globalists.
He wants to let 3rd-worlders flood-in and undermine native labor. He hates the idea of borders, since he was an outright commie for decades.
>>75127693
There's no demand for higher education or health care, eh?
>>75127794
1000% agree im glad to be in the chemistry department away from all that B.S.
That being said ether college needs to be cheaper or everyone one gets equal government help.
>>75126823
>No. It's ironic that your choice of insult is "Boot licker"
That guy's a commie autist that spams "bootlicker" in every post. I've seen him posting many times before.
>>75119394
This. It doesn't matter who you vote for. The democrats are split beyond repair.
I am indifferent about this election. I have no candidate that is "my candidate ". I am telling you this as a complete outside observer. Trump will be the next president. Neither Clinton or Sanders stand a chance.
Vote for whoever you want to. It doesn't matter.
Also don't borrow money for an undergraduate degree. That is a bad life decisions.
>>75124305
You are so fucking dumb. Bernie is open borders and wealth redistribution. Do you not know how catastrophic of a fucking mess that will be?
>>75127993
why?
commies are authoritarian bootlickers. its obvious as fuck
>>75128038
being serious how would you pay for it?
>>75119148
Nothing is free you fucking idiot. "Free" is just a buzzword to get retards like you to vote for whoever yells FREE the loudest.
>the rich have too many tax loopholes
>raise taxes
Tax increases affect the middle class and small business owners
>>75119148
When you make more than 45k and are trying to raise a family you'll regret it.
It's not """free""" middle class whites pay for it
He's the president not the emperor, he doesn't have much say in wall st
Loopholes is very vague.
We're essentially out of Afghanistan, and look what happened when we left Iraq
No, just no. What are we doing to help Ukrainians and South Africans that are in imminent danger? You only care because Muslims are the new "oppressed people" but in reality they'll fuck your country up when they get here like they're doing in Europe
DUDE WEED LMAO
You're a sheep to a merchant-race shepherd
>>75127794
So the answer is keep kids from going to college. KYS nigger. Also, citation needed for that small-minded generalization you got going on there.
>>75127167
>Denmark
The Prime Minister of Denmark sent Bernie a personal message and told him to stop calling Denmark a socialist country. They have more capitalist polices than what Bernie is proposing. They are an economic anomaly backed-up by a labyrinth of EU banking wizardry and a monocultural population that's easily organized due to its small size.
Not to mention they have high inflation, high land prices/taxes, and the world's highest debt per capita.
>>75119920
>>75119978
Quit it dude kek wont grant you dubs.
>>75119551
This. Why did I bother working hard, getting scholarships and paying for my school myself for your lazy ass to come along and borrow money while sitting on your assand then have your debts just forgiven? You made bad life decisions and you will have to pay for that either you like it or not.
I bet getting those loan checks in college was a lot of fun huh? Top Kek.
>>75127824
>Yes because the free market is a meme at this point, globilization + the abundance of labor has
You're correct about this. Which candidate has plans to address globalization and the abundance of cheap labor though?
Trump is opposed to TPP and similar trade deals, as is Sanders. These are major ways that globalization happens. However, Clinton, as part of the Democratic establishment, is not opposed to the TPP, but is in favor of it.
Trump goes on step further than Bernie and wants to bring back effective tariffs. Tariffs make products built off shore more expensive, which will defeat the advantage of cheap labor overseas. That will bring jobs back to America.
Trump also wants to shut down illegal immigration, enforce our laws, and move out millions of illegal immigrants. That directly addresses the problem of cheap labor in the country.
While you go on and on about Jews and "boot licker" you ignore the candidate who is trying to solve your problems in favor of giving more money to big government in hopes that they will give you free stuff.
>>75119148
He will raise your taxes
>>75128148
I paid for by working two jobs and getting scholarships. It wasn't even that difficult.
All states have an in State tuition program. I don't know why people ignore those.
>>75127057
>he government should not be harassing drug users, that's their choice
Eliminating drug use would mean less broken families and less expenses on "rehab". Not to mention the destruction addicts cause to people and their environment.
>>75128395
Nothing is wrong with using student loans. you are right though if you have to pay them back so should I. The interest should be way lower though.
>>75128388
Witnessed!! KEK lives.
draft dodger .
hes a kike
what more do you need to know
>>75128085
I tried explaining it to him about 5 times, and I just gave up. He never learns.
>>75128388
But KEK will grant you dubs based acolyte.
Because it's all a lie OP.
Not Bernie or Stlain or Mao is going to get you free everything with 30 million illegals in the country.
Forget it. Not happening.
it's called pandering..it's bullshit
>>75128623
Everything is wrong with using student loans. Specifically for an undergraduate degree.
If you can't figure out how to get a four year without borrowing money you probably aren't college material.
>>75119702
>Bernie
>Tax cuts
You poor, dumb bastard.
>>75119148
The one thing I do agree with him on is money out of politics. We never get anything done because of this sole reason. Our government is just a bunch of paid shills at this point and I wish they'd all die.
>>75128506
When did you go to college? i go to a state school and i need 11,000$ a semester. i dont see how you studied working that many hours but nicely done.
>>75119560
>le ebin Bernie is a communist meme
wew lad ebin XDDD
>>75119702
>>75119716
>Communism /= socialism.
Go to /leftypol/ and try to argue that. Post screencaps for keks.
>>75128847
I graduated from a state college in August of 2014 (One of the SEC schools)
Not difficult at all.
You are just a dim witted loser. Or you're lazy. Probably a combination of the two.
>>75128400
>Which candidate has plans to address globalization and the abundance of cheap labor though?
Bernie but not that you would know.
>Trump also wants to shut down illegal immigration, enforce our laws, and move out millions of illegal immigrants. That directly addresses the problem of cheap labor in the country.
That's not a solution, that's a fucking band aid. The problem is job growth you moron, not an abundance of honest labor. There are more than 12 million illegals in this country, we have over 90 million that need work. Like I said, band aid. If the system isn't working, you fix the system not scapegoat minorities.
>While you go on and on about Jews and "boot licker" you ignore the candidate who is trying to solve your problems in favor of giving more money to big government in hopes that they will give you free stuff.
Yeah Bernie will solve my problems, history has proven it. He's a humanist above all, Trump is a neoliberal manbaby with no basic understanding of government or negotiation.
>>75128914
you do realize socialism is a stepping stone to communism, right?
>>75119148
Fucking retard! Even an all-Democrat House of Representatives would never approve a bill to fund you socialist wank fantasies!
Even if they did, where the fuck would all the money come from? Even if you no longer have to make student loan payments, your quality of life goes down at your income level!
>>75126235
>>75126823
>Norway
What about Sweden, Denmark, Finland, France, Netherlands, Iceland, etc?
bernie hates america
he has for 4 decades
he sided with the ussr and the commies during the cold war.
you will never hear him say patriotic things about the usa
hes a fucking jew kike
>>75129109
lol i think your just one of those guys who sit at their moms house and lie on the internet to feel cool.
>>75129202
No, im quite well off. Keep trying to get more free shit tho loser!!! hahahah!!!!
>>75119148
You would pay less tax with Trump.
http://election2016.taxpolicycenter.org/2016/03/25/voxs-new-presidential-tax-calculator/
>>75126832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg
>le Bernie is a communist meme
scream harder faget
>pay for a bit more for free health care
>>75119978
>>75120032
>>75120095
Dub failures
>>75129270
see: >>75128333
Also, Venezuela tried hardcore to be like Sweden; not they're pure shit and people are literally starving.
The US is too diverse, and people too divided; and it's too easy to engage in corruption, due to the massive bureaucracy needed to install "socialism" here.
>>75127873
>le Bernie is communist meme
This is like the 3rd time that's been posted.
The feels
>>75129511
He stays within the Overton Window publicly so he can stay in office and get your shekels. His motivation is communism, and he tries to be as communist as possible without stepping out of bounds for a US politician.
Leftist populism sure worked out great for brazil, argentina, greece, spain, 50% of africa, etc etc
>>75119148
Sometimes you have to look beyond yourself as an individual and look for what's best for the overall state of the nation. What would be best for the citizens and domain of the state at large. To not be selfish, to try to aspire to what would be best for your fellow countryman.
Then you realize at this point there are no good candidates for any of that.
>>75119520
You're thinking like an individual, not a country. If an individual takes in one refugee it's probably not a terrorist. If a country opens its borders to the land of enemy combatants it will be invaded and attacked from within.
>>75130051
What about guns? If we risk even a single death, we should stop making it possible.
>>75129112
This has to be a troll.
Illegals cost USA 100 billion a year, and lower wages. It's simple.
>>75130206
Guns don't shit-out 8 sandlets and raise them to commit more violence, while consuming your resources and welfare, and using their power to undermine your culture.
>>75129116
Do you mean the Lenin quote that gets spammed all over?
Lenin had completely different definitions of communism and socialism in mind when he said that. He claimed that socialism would lead to the dissolution of the state and class system, settling in simplified society called communism. Of course, that was complete bullshit, and Lenin was just trying to associate his butchery with the "just cause" of a better society. You're associating the term "communism" with Lenin's authoritarianism for a different reason: you want to portray any move to the left as being tantamount to toppling a government and starting a war that killed millions.
>>75130206
Guns don't plan to kill people. Enemy combatants invited into our country do.
>>75119148
It doesn't matter what you make, Bernie Sanders wants a quarter of it, at least. Along with State taxes you'll probably end up paying between 30-45% of your income at THIS tax bracket.
>a bit more
You're not going to pay "a bit more" you're going to pay half of your fucking income. Now imagine you ever succeed in scraping your worthless ass off the floor and climbing to the middle class, what then dipshit? Voting for Bernie Sanders is literally voting away any possible success you might have in the future because you're jealous of successful people now.
>>75129735
>50% of Africa
You mean the 65% where the US funded complete despots like Mobutu Sese Seko for the sake of maintaining global capitalism?
>>75130521
>is an expert on "muh imperialism"
>uses capitalism as a negative term
>"guys, I'm totally not a commie, I swear!"
Yeah, just forget about all the communist regimes in Africa that were complete dogshit, or that the Soviets supplied them with weapons as well to kill civies. Pic related.
>>75130521
No, he means the 75% where Cuba and other Socialist states intervened to install commie governments, like in Angola.
Great work btw, that place sure is a fucking paradise now.
>>75130425
guns are literally murder weapons. stop with this stupid meme that they don't "kill people". I guess by that logic neither does an atomic bomb
>>75130794
Correct. There are millions of atom bombs and none of them have ever killed anyone without a human pushing the button.
Also, SHALL
>>75130794
Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.
Also, guns allow people who aren't Bruce Lee to fight-off a gang of niggers and survive.
>>75119148
>>75130933
fag.
>>75119148
>willing to pay a bit more for
>free health care
Do you see what's wrong with that? Why not just pay a bit more to someone other than the incompetent federal government?
>>75130995
Homophobe.
>>75119148
>Willing to pay more for free health care
So it not free?
>>75130943
doesn't mean that we can't take away something that allows people to kill people at a vicious rate. think of that dumbass?
>>75131060
Literally autistic
>>75130727
I don't support Soviet puppet regimes or authoritarian regimes of any sort, if that's what you're saying.
Yes I know that Ethiopia, Somalia, Angola, and other communist African regimes killed hundreds of thousands (possibly a few million) people, but it's ridiculous to pretend that the anti-communist regimes didn't commit atrocities.
>>75131092
Right to life is mentioned in the preamble to the Constitution.
If a person has a right to life, they have a right to defend themselves against a large group of attackers, which implies rapid-fire.
>>75131298
DUDE CONSTITUTION LMAO
>>75131298
based on death rates from guns used in suicide and murder, the utilitarian would agree that guns should be outlawed for the greater good
>>75119148
You are not the center of the fucking universe.
You entitled shit.
>>75131092
No, the Constitution prevents you from doing that.
>>75131135
Literally butthurt.
>>75131350
Correct. Now provide an argument.
>>75131428
Incorrect. The potential dangers of misuse of a right does not justify its being stripped from all people.
>>75130794
Murder weapons are fine. Enemies are not. Arm yourself and reject your enemies.
>>75131350
>>75131428
Not an argument.
You """""""socialists""""""" are all living-up to the meme of you being commies so far.
>dissolve borders, let in ALL the brown people! XD
>TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX!!!
>givings me's your gun, comrade! XD (pic related)
Also, the US's gun ownership seems to be doing just fine, as we have a lower murder-per-capita than most of the world, including countries where gun are extremely prohibited. Also, the suicide rates by guns happen to make-up 70% of gun deaths in the US (leftist organizations don't specify that, to make it seem like more murder is going on); and the US's suicide rates by gun are in relation percentage-wise to places like the UK and South Korea, where the same percentage of people just jump-off buildings or hang themselves. It could be argued that guns provide a more humane form of suicide for those that want it.
Molyneux literally reks every conceivable argument you could have here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
>>75131702
actually it does. thats why hand grenades are illegal. I laugh at you constitution faggots because thats really your only defense, as most other developed nations outlawed guns decades ago. Also, the founding fathers probably never imagined machine guns being readily available to the public.
>inb4 its a semi-automatic!!!! not a machine gun!!! its perfectly fine!!
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
I have student loans
Then your taxes will go up. Every single tax bracket gets increases under Bernies tax plan.
>I have student loans
And you will still have student loans, retard.
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
>I believe that education should be free for all
Just because you are willing to pay for something doesn't mean you have the right to force other people to. That's called theft.
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
Trump agrees.
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
You can assist a country without opening your borders to them. Also Israel is funding Syrian terrorists.
>We can legalize weed
Yeah, because as we saw with our Canadian lord and savior DUDE WEED man he really followed through with that shit.
>>75132016
>most other developed nations outlawed guns decades ago
Actually, gun ownership is relatively lax in Western Europe, especially Switzerland.
It's actually 3rd-world totalitarian shitholes where gun ownership is less common.
You're literally like an uneducated Reddit pleb leftist right now.
>>75119839
Dude you suck
>>75132367
No, UK is developed and they banned guns. I should know, I lived there for a year, felt incredibly more safer walking around at night. Japan, another developed country, banned guns way back in the 1940s. You sound like an autistic libertarian right now.
>>75132016
Hand grenades are not illegal. Neither are flamethrowers or rocket launchers. You can get most explosives with the proper tax stamp.
Nice try though. Flamethrowers are actually less regulated than pistols.
>>75132150
I just did this and my boss promoted me
>>75132541
Those are exceptions, not the norm. Mainland Europe still has relatively lax gun laws.
London has a higher violent crime rate than New York City. Part of it has to do with people like you who insist on importing brown people.
I bet you'd work at a knife bin, you cuck.
>>75132541
>felt incredibly more safer
You were objectively less safe than you would have been in Texas, where you can buy assault rifles in grocery stores. I'm glad your "feelings" aren't the deciding factor in public legislation.
>>75132627
But you're absolutely wrong though.
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/weapons-firearms/is-it-legal-own-hand-grenades
>>75132738
lol, crime rate as in muggings and the rare stabbings... not Sandy hook or Columbine. kinda a big difference there
>>75132743
Source? I'd rather not trust crazy gun nuts with their "facts" after this hand grenade comment
>>75132893
Those are still freak occurances.
The US's total murder rate is relatively-low for the amount of nigs/beans we have.
Plano, Texas is the major city in the US with the lowest murder rate. Gun laws are lax there.
If you're a degenerate nihilist or a nigger, chances are you're more likely to kill people. Conservative whites just have to pay taxes to keep those people in prison.
>>75119148
Becaus you will never make more then that a year and ensure no one in the future hires any more then a robot
>>75132799
Title II of the Gun Control Act of 1968 is a revision of the National Firearms Act of 1934, and pertains to machine guns, short or "sawed-off" shotguns and rifles, and so-called "destructive devices" (including grenades, mortars, rocket launchers, large projectiles, and other heavy ordnance). Acquisition of these weapons is subject to prior approval of the Attorney General, and federal registration is required for possession. Generally, a $200 tax is imposed upon each transfer or making of any Title II weapon.
HURR DURR I CAN'T GOOGLE FOR SHIT AND THE ONLY VIOLENT CRIME PER CAPITA THAT MATTERS IS MASS SHOOTINGS.
>>75133188
"Conservatives" have never wanted peace. that has never been their end goal. I want peace. I dont like Trump. I dont see whats so hard to understand. I dont see why everyone wouldnt want this outcome. After trumps rise I guess there's no bottom of the barrel for "Conservatives"
>>75133290
Approval by the Attorney General of the United States. Are you fucking retarded? They're not gonna let Cletus or Billy-Bob get a hand grenade you fucking idiot. Why is this country so fucking stupid holy shit
>>75133360
Not an argument.
Leftists lead to nihilism and abandonment of principal. You always want the government to take care of you, so you have no individual willpower. You think you'll starve if you don't have government to feed you. You think people are ready to become killers at any moment if the government doesn't disarm them. Deep down you have no confidence in your race or heritage, or even your personal merit.
>>75119520
Come visit europe you fucking fool.
Hell, go visit brazil even.
>>75133493
>he doesn't understand what a tax stamp is
Dumbshit, it's just extra money you have to pay the Feds to get certain weapons. You have to get a tax stamp to get a silencer, which is very common. The Attorney General himself doesn't sign it either, just one of his countless aids or proxy representatives.
>wants more government
>doesn't understand how it works
>wants more sandniggers too
I'm starting to think you're Wojak in this pic now.
>>75133874
>The Attorney General is gonna put his job on the line by letting a simple pleb citizen have a hand grenade
Surrrrree
>>75133675
Based on personal experience, I believe we are still pretty animalistic and barbaric. See Nazism for more information. Nihilism is the only "right" philosophy if there ever were one. Sorry if that's too abstract for you to handle
>>75134037
Oh my God, I can't believe how fucking dumb you are.
Oh wait a minute, yes I can.
>>75134162
Maybe you are. You're like slime with no foundation or solid shape, and thus you can never improve yourself.
>>75119768
>>75120300
>>75120766
>>75123283
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421369/bernie-sanders-national-socialism
>>75134264
Nice ad hominems bro!
>im willing to pay more for free healthcare
>pay more
>free
oh anon, you silly goose
>>75134264
I cant believe how dumb YOU are. More like, ignorant.
>>75134320
Well you just said that the Attourney General goes through and personally reads every tax stamp order in the US, so it's like talking to a retard at this point.
You don't even know what the government is, yet you want more of it. Even after being explained its faults. Makes you seem really idiotic.
also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
You wouldn't be arguing if you had actually watched this.
>>75134487
You ever hear the phrase "the buck stops here"? WELL, if a citizen were to legally get a hand grenade and decides to use it on a crowd, guess what? The Attorney General is getting the blame for it. Not the aide. Because, well, the buck stops at the AG office. And yes, I do think he/she would personally go through every fucking tax stamp, because being lax with people having hand grenades is not very smart now is it? Oh wait! YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD
>>75134320
No, you retard. He was just insulting you.
>The Secretary of State is gonna put his job on the line by letting a simple pleb citizen operate a 2-ton metal box with wheels
That's how retarded you sound right now.
Here, have this picture.
>>75134699
Umm, I said a HAND GRENADE, dumbass! Not a car! And yes that was an ad hominem, attacking me without attacking the argument
>>75134679
I guess I'm gonna have to spell it out for you.
Get your notebook out.
The Attourney General does not look at tax stamp orders. That is an implication from the wording, but not how it actually works. The Attourney General sets the precedent (which doesn't have much room to change anyway, since DC versus Heller and other laws are already set in stone); then the huge multituede of Federal agents across the united states act on the will of the Attourney General. Tax stamps don't go directly to DC, may of them are approved by Feds in the state they were ordered in.
I hope you're less than 30, because you're really to fucking stupid to be voting. I bet you couldn't name your own district judges without Googling.
>>75135076
Sorry if im annoying you anon. But i still doubt any plain citizen can get a hand grenade. its only for military. and i bet you couldnt name our Supreme court justices without googling. or our secretary of the treasury. or our Federal Reserve chairwoman, or our attorney general
>>75119148
i feel bad for bern victims. i think there should be a liberal charity made for people who contributed money to his campaign thinking it was a investment and if he was elected they would be free of student loans
but thats partially because some would donate to that instead of funding hillaries campaign. even companies would get more out of it because "muh good pr"
i didnt go to college and dont want to go
is bernie going to pay me cash up front?
how is that fair that students get to go to college for free but i dont get anything
you cant favor one group over another
besides most people in college go there just to have sex and are complete degenerates
>>75135318
Your doubt is irrelevant. It is objective fact that you can do what he has described. Explain how he is wrong--you've so far only demonstrated a completely lack of understanding of the system.
>>75135583
Wrong about guns? I have been giving good evidence all along but here's something that took 2 seconds: There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker, which catalogues such incidents. That alone should make you question the point of these murder weapons
>>75135583
Also, my doubt is relevant, because it says "There’s no doubt that a live hand grenade designed for military combat fits within the law’s provisions—non-military people may not possess them."
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/weapons-firearms/is-it-legal-own-hand-grenades
You can fuck off now
>>75119148
>I make less than 45,000 dollars/year
>I have student loans
One or the other is acceptable but survivable with a work ethic. Both together? 100% your fault.
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
Because you don't pay taxes. That's about as genuine as anyone else saying what they would do when they know they'll never be asked to.
>I believe that education should be free for all
It already is, up to 12th grade. If you went to college, you know how many people are there who definitely don't treat it seriously and aren't smart enough. The government shouldn't subsidize their failures and useless degrees.
>Wall street needs to pay their fair share of taxes
They do, and if you try and stop it they'll just exploit loopholes. Taxes on trading will only affect 401k accounts and other middle class investments since they're not rich enough to hide from taxes
>We need to close the loopholes
Bernie can't do that
>We need to get out of Afghanistan
Bernie can't do that
>We need to help the refugees in Syria and not expel them
We don't
>We can legalize weed
Which candidate is opposed to that?
>>75135760
>There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker
Not an argument, the US still has a lower murder-per-capita compared with countries with a similar ethnic make-up. Also, "mass shootings" are a misnomer, because they are harped on for being a one-time event. Tyrone and his homies still commit the majority of murders, they're just strung-out over a few weeks instead of all at once. Also, stuff that happens in backalleys isn't reported as much.
>I am willing to pay for a bit more for free health care
>Pay more for free healthcare
does anyone see this oxymoron
>>75136111
Tell that to the 475 dead people (in 2015 alone) you cold blooded douchebag. Oh! but your gun rights are too important for them, right?
>>75135760
Too bad the USA has an equivalent number of mass shootings to Europe. Gun control doesn't work.
>>75135855
Nope. Read the law. The definition of destructive devices do include grenades, but as of now they are not illegal to license on the federal level. Maybe you shouldn't get your information from websites.
>>75136285
I will, when you tell it to the 500,000 people Bernie Sanders starved to death in Iraq, or the 50,000,000 children who have died of Vitamin A deficiency because luddite Leftists have held back Yellow Rice from its release because of muh GMOs.
>>75136285
Not an argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
