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Stop the Polling Insanity
By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz

MAY 20, 2016
...But an NBC/Survey Monkey poll showed a bare three-point margin for Mrs. Clinton nationally over Mr. Trump...

...The problem is that the polls that make the news are also the ones most likely to be wrong. And to folks like us, who know the polling game and can sort out real trends from normal perturbations, too many of this year’s polls, and their coverage, have been cringeworthy...

...What about the neck-and-neck race described in the NBC/Survey Monkey poll? A deeper dig shows that 28 percent of Latinos in this survey support Mr. Trump. If the candidate were a conventional Republican like Mitt Romney or George W. Bush, that wouldn’t raise eyebrows. But most other surveys have shown Mr. Trump eking out 10 to 12 percent among Latino voters.....

The demographic composition of the American electorate is changing rapidly, becoming more racially diverse with every election cycle, and these changes are most evident among the youngest generation of voters. Because there is a deep racial and generational divide between the parties, underrepresenting younger voters and racial minorities can seriously bias poll results.
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>>75108786
Glorious.
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>>75108786
>Ornstein
>Abramowitz

Jesus Christ really?
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>>75108786
> Ornstein

too easy OP
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>>75108786
>Abramowitz
Enough said.
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I've never been a "TEH JOOS!" person but why is pol always right?
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>>75109049
>>75109111
>>75109124
In terms of names and sleazy, slippery pseudo intellectual content, I don't think I've ever seen a more Jewish article tbqhwy famskis.
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>Ornstein
>Abramowitz
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>>75108786
New York Times Says
Is an alternate spelling of
Carlos Slim Says
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>Clinton starts losing in polls
>SHUT IT DOWN.jpg
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>By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz

... I'm not even gonna say it.
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>>75108786
>Ornstein and Abramowitz
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>>75108786

>Ornstein
>Abramowitz

This is just a hoax, right? /pol/ can't literally be always right, can we?
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>>75109912
It's fairly public at this point that jews control vast portions of the mainstream media and "journalism" and "journalism communities" are code for jewish propaganda and jewish communities, respectively.

Jews have had millenias to practice spreading their victim mentality survival tactics.
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>>75110178
bost bread bills about jews
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>Because there is a deep racial and generational divide between the parties, underrepresenting younger voters and racial minorities can seriously bias poll results.

He said, as the familiar smell of gas filled the room
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>>75110178
I'd like to clarify that I don't hate the jews. I'm just aware of their fortés. This is their forté, that's it. There's nothing really wrong about it, other than I wouldn't feel right doing it myself because I hold Christian morals to heart, and honesty is one of them (Judaism and Islam don't really uphold these).
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>>75108786
>By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz
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>>75110451
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jews are not even trying anymore
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inb4

>guys we are going to dissolve elections in general, and allow Obama to handpick the next president, just this once, because something is wrong with democracy if Trump is winning

>People of America, I present you the next President, Hillary Clinton!

>applause from Democrats, liberals, and Cuckservatives
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>>75110385
Red pill me on Bilderberg. Go.
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>>75109591
carlos slim is definitely pro-Trump
open borders to the USA means he has to pay his mexicans higher wages
a closed border increases his labor pool decreasing wages and increasing demand for his services
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>>75109473
Your reaction of denial towards 'the jews' is programming. You feel guilt, you feel a trauma from all the holocaust porn you've seen, and been blamed for.
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>>75110529
*FREEDOM INTENSIFIES*
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>>75108786
>But most other surveys have shown Mr. Trump eking out 10 to 12 percent among Latino voters.....

????????

This is simply a lie. for example this is fox news poll
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>>75108786
>By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
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kek nice ones
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>>75109049
>>75109111
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>>75110904
This is the latest NBC/WSJ has Trump at 20% out of 88% deciders.
This is an extremely low for him btw.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/clinton-s-lead-over-trump-shrinks-3-points-new-nbc-n577726
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>>75110904
ITS A LIE DAMNIT

B A D
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SHUT UP SHUT UP
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>>75108786
They're right, I dislike that poll mania as well
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>>75109473
Because of three core principles/observations:
1. Jews have always been extremely progressive culturally.
2. Jews gained positions of influence, power, and wealth in Europe several centuries ago.
3. Humans, Jews especially, like to promote and help their kin.

These three conditions lead to Jews continuously advocating for and pushing progressive view points in a disproportionate amount.
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>Ornstein
>Abramowitz
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>>75111165
Forgot pic
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>>75111165

A few more taco salads and he'll match Dubya's 40%+ share of the Latino vote from '04.
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>>75111165
>>75110904
>>75111472

But Trump has a Jewish son in law and has promised to maintain the alliance with Israel. Why does the media Jew hate him so?
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>>75112073

Because globalism matters far more to the vast majority of Jews than something as insignificant as Israel.
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>>75112073
They are globalists... why would they care about his Jewish grandkids or whatever?

>>75111808
probably will never happen, but isn't needed either if his white support would pull through. If Trump can get 30% Latino support he will guarantee a win, I believe.
But he could pull that support from 18-30 population that has a high rate of undecided people (in some polls up to 20%).
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>>75112372

>If Trump can get 30% Latino support he will guarantee a win

That would guarantee a Reagan-tier landslide. He doesn't need 30% to win. Hispanics are a large minority yes, but their population (for now) is largely concentrated in a few states, many of which are blue anyway, aside from Texas. They don't really have the population outside of those states to affect the outcome that much, aside from Florida, which is mostly Spics from Cuba, (Trump does need them though.)
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>>75112073

Trump embodies everything liberals hate - white, male, businessman, unapologetically macho- and American Jews are liberals up to six gorillion.

>>75112372

Yeah, I don't believe he even has that 20%. Like with other voters, it helps he's running against Hilary, who in typically inept fashion styled herself as 'abuela' Clinton back in December and is positioning herself to be Obama's successor, whom quite a few shitter-shattered Hispanics consider the Deporter-in-Chief.
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>>75112665
Or he could just get like 5% more of the white vote than R-Money did and he'd net of 270...
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>>75112665
yeah he can win with 24-25% Hispanics as well. Even less technically could be enough if he can improve his numbers with whites further.

>>75112867
>Yeah, I don't believe he even has that 20%.

You can believe whatever you want, but that's no better than wishful thinking.
The WSJ polls underestimated Trump by 5-10% in most primaries compared to his real result so that's a very anti Trump poll.

Most polls have Trump between 22-27% with Hispanics.
Legal Hispanics and Cubans seem to care a lot less about deporting illegals and a lot more about creating jobs and overriding NAFTA and TPP than you falsely believe.
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>>75110904
>FOX "news"

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>75114534
I'm sorry, what year is it?
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>>75108786
also the NY times removed the election direct link from it's front page
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>>75110529
This is civil war territory
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>By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz

HAHAHA You literally can't make this shit up.
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>>75108786
hahahahah
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>>75109819
Just a coincidence.
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Hahah yes, they're in denial. It's going to get better as we get closer to the election.
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>Ornstein
>Abramowitz
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>>75108786
SHUT
IT
DOWN
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>>75110575
bunch of influential people get together and discuss how best to control the world
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>Ornstein and Abramowitz

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
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>>75109473
Eventually the scale will tip and you'll realize it's far too common to be coincidence
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>>75109473
Journalism is one of those industries where success is largely a function of who you know rather than talent/abilities/accomplishments. The jews are completely shameless about nepotism and will hire jews far more frequently than non-jews.
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>>75118824
So much this.
Most journalists are utterly worthless people.
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>>75108786
>By Norman J. Ornstein and Alan I. Abramowitz

It's like these polls and other media tools for manipulating public opinion have somehow been wrested from their control and turned against them and their puppets....

>Your precious armoury, gratefully accepted! -Bane
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>>75108786
Funny the Jew York Times calls to stop reporting the polls once Trump starts winning. Slippery kikes.

>The problem is that the polls that make the news are also the ones most likely to be wrong. And to folks like us, who know the polling game and can sort out real trends from normal perturbations, too many of this year’s polls, and their coverage, have been cringeworthy.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/20/opinion/stop-the-polling-insanity.html?_r=0
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>>75110451
>ABC
>Notable
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>>75112311
Proof please.
I'd like to read about this
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>>75108786

The Dem party is currently split between the Berniefags and Hillary. Trump's polls started surging after he became the nominee when most of the cucks realized there was no other option. Once Hillary gets the nomination she will get most of the Berniefags back and she will lead the polls again
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>>75112372

> 30%

That does not matter. Her will not get California or any of the major blue states where the shitskin population is concentrated. The only important state where this will be a factor is Floria and 30% is 30%.
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>>75109473
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>>75112073
Zionism pushes for the destruction of nationalism so that Jews are home in every nation they choose to be in. These globalists always have Israel to run back to if they fail, so they throw their all at killing off the spirit of Western culture and anyone perceived to be white.
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