Why did the nazis lose?
>>75071093
Because there is more to war than kdr
Hitler was mentally ill and bit off more than his country could chew
Seriously
>>75071093
Not enough men and arrogant Hitler's decisions. they should have attacked with Japan.
>>75071093
Because the jews got america and britain to fight for them
Arrogance
>>75071093
Hitler needed to bang that hot Argentinian babe and left the war.
Hitler took over direct command of his army.
>>75071093
>5 / 1
Dat kill/death score tho
>>75071093
Hitler allied with the spaghetti niggers.
>>75071093
There was a saying once where a German tank gunner was captured by american soldiers
"Our panzers could wipe 10 of your shermans off the map each!" said the German
"Oh yeah" replied the American with a smug grin, "Then why'd you lose?
"You always have 11"
>>75071367
That's just civilians. Russian civilians don't count.
>>75071093
Commieland was giant and well populated.
They just sent drunktards into the front to be used as flesh shields
Because Hitler was fucking idiot and knew absolutely nothing about leading armed forces
>>75071093
>61m dead for allies
>12m dead for the axis
How in the hell did the axis lose? That's a 5:1 kill to death ratio!
Hitler was an incompetent commander and started the worst bout of kinslaying Europe has ever seen. It was easy to make the entire world hate him and collectively stomp his shit down.
My understanding is our infantry had no effective anti-tank weaponry, and we had to rely entirely on artillery to destroy Russian armor. So we were probably hosed regardless.
Also the plan was to invade in the spring, but the Italians mucked up the invasion of Italy so we all had to clean up that mess and it delayed Barbarossa several months.
>>75072115
>>75072108
>>75071933
Did Hitler believe that he was somekind of a god?
or a chosen one?
Soviets were terrible at military tactics, but were so overpowered it didn't even matter.
>>75072108
Italy
>>75072108
How many soldiers did the axis have in total? If x had 50 million and y had 24 million, x losses amount to 30 million while y loses 20 million, x still has 20 million left against 4 million at the end even though y lost less men than x.
>>75072108
Murdering civilians does not really help ones cause
>>75072108
chinese and russians have an infinite number of men in every war
>>75071247
should of waited till Europe was controlled before the fuck decided to turn on Russia. Was only going to be like another week before he overtook Britain.
>>75071093
Because Italians suck dick at fighting.
>>75071191
>>75071303
To be honest the high command (which Hitler was always in charge of) had a decent idea to attack in may; unfortunatley Greece happened and Eastern Poland flooded making an advance impossible till late june.
The German high command was split between Opertation Otto which was old fashioned and barborossa which a minority of the high command supported; Hitler went with Barbarossa through the Führer Directive 21.
The problem was Hitler opposed operation Typhoon (which Otto had entailed) but was taken ill with a bout of dysentery; thus the minority of the high command supporting the Fuhrer were outvoted and Typhhon turned out to be a failure of epic proportions.
It was Hitler who made the descion not to attack Moscow; but they did it anyway and it was a decline from there.
>>75072342
Nah, he was just mad because some shity art school turned him down.
Tbh, he wasn't the smartest guy so most likely thought that he could handle it. The truth is that when it comes to war, he was total amateur.
>inb4 stormfags enter the thread
Hitler only engaged Total War mode after 1942. The Russians had gone full Total War after 1939. If Hitler had gone full Total War then he'd have way more tanks, way more planes and way more trained soldiers. Half-assing it failed him
>>75072305
>invasion of Greece
Ftfym
>>75072487
It demoralizes the soldiers in that nation to feel incompetent they couldn't defend their civilians from the enemy.
>>75071449
>>75072399
>>75072593
Mussolini: hey man we won't be ready for total war until like the 50s keep that in mind
Hitler: *unzips autism* lol who cares imma start shit against the whole world anyway
[some years later]
FUCKING ITALIANS REEEEEEE
pure nigger behavior
>>75071093
most of the slavs died from hunger
Hitler picked a fight he couldn't win.
Tojo picked a fight he couldn't win.
Italy is Italy so obviously whatever fight they picked was unwinnable.
Bad decisions all around.
>>75072604
Entirely the opposite; he was a lazy fuck but he knew war; he sat down with Anthony Eden at the Munich conferences and pointed out the weaknesses in the British line.
>>75071093
Soviets just threw bodies at the Germans and overwhelmed them. It was a zerg rush
>>75072305
it was completely Italy's fault for being shit. If he didn't have to send his forces to Italy he would have destroyed Russia.
>>75071093
Because Aryans are subhuman and can never defeat the Anglo in war
>>75071367
Yes, because destroying civillians shows your military power.
>>75072858
Might of helped if he didn't start fucking with them during the dead of winter.
>>75072726
I dont think you understant how Russia works
>>75072751
BS, Italy wasted millions of lira on the second Abyssinian war, developing their African colonies and Spain and got next to nothing out of it economically.
>>75072858
Italy in WWII is pure "Oh shit nigger what are you doing?". Ben was a retard.
>>75072858
>>75072751
>>75072699
Poland flooded in May 1941 meaning an advance was impossible even if they hadn't fought in Greece; they didn't complete the Rożnów dam till later in the Year.
>>75072726
>demoralizes the soldiers
Typical burger. Destroying our people only makes us angrier.
Literally because Jewmerica joined the war, and had been supplying the USSR beforehand.
>>75071093
Winter, plain and simple. And Hitler was not a strategic genius and should have listenend to his generals
In total, the U.S. deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[38] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[39] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[40] and 1.75 million tons of food.[41]
Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor alone were sufficient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in the line.[42][43]
The United States gave to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or 57.8 percent of the High-octane aviation fuel,[44] 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted to 53 percent of total domestic production.[45] One item typical of many was a tire plant that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about eleven billion dollars.[46]
>>75071093
Italy
>>75072751
Hitler: time to get this war started while we have the tech advantage.
Mussolini: fuck ya
Mussolini: sorry I kinda lost pls halp
Mussolini: pls halp
Mussolini: I know you're invading the toughest enemy you will ever have to face but I could use some help.
>can't even defeat the greeks alone
>>75071093
>All nations in the world vs a few
wowie who would have thought
>>75073194
Well... That too.
Soviet human wave tactics.
Italy not being much of a help.
Declaring war on USA just because Japan started playing the idiot after Pearl Harbor.
They could have forced the USSR to capitulate in case they seized Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad, but that didn't happen because German generals were faggots.
Britain was also an important base for allied activity.
They became the guy that "wins every battle but loses the war."
>>75073125
BS what? point is that Hitler was informed damn well about how much of an ally Italy could be with its abysmal industry, resources and technology
Mussolini shouldn't have joined in the first place and let Hitler deal with the mediterranean front himself and see how he would've done
>>75073293
another common core disaster
>>75072726
It had the reverse effect in Britain though. For every one of our people killed our people got more determined to win, to punish the enemy and make them suffer.
>>75072753
This as well, the biggest killer in any war is disease. Seriously in every single war, disease kills more than enemy soldiers do.
>>75073042
That was partly his fault. The plan was to finish the invasion before winter but Hitler they didn't have enough troops and spread themselves thin.
>>75073211
>>75073042
>>75072763
Again this >>75072596
It was Walther von Brauchitsch who made the call to push for Moscow rather than Kiev (which would have destroyed the USSR economically) despite Hitler specifically ordering it in the Fuhrer directive 21.
And he fucked it up big time; from then on it lost momentum till full retreat after stalingrad.
>>75071093
Atom bomb.
We nuked two small industrial cities. Imagine if they didn't surrender, Tokyo and other more populated cities would have been next, that is why they surrendered before even more of their population was obliterated. After Japan surrendered, it was all but over for Hitler to fight everyone on his own in Europe.
Italy fucked up the yugo-invasion, Hitler could attack russia one month later, then the winter came.
If Germany attacked 2 weeks earlier, WW2 would have different outcome. They just needed to save allies ass.
>>75071093
Why did Germany get so greedy? If Germany stayed away from the UK and Russia the border of Germany would be larger today.
>>75071093
>Remember 6 million jews
>They're more important than 60 million dead goyim
I fucking hate the jews so much
Italians are the reason. They can't fight for shit.
>losing against greeks with all the preparations they made and all that equipment
>>75071093
>lack of superior manpower
>lack of superior tech
>lack of superior firepower
>neither tactically or strategically innovative
Really, the reason the Wehrmacht did so well early on is because of the failures of others rather than their own success. France, for example, had no reserve to counteract a force coming through the Ardennes. The Soviet Union was wholly unprepared for attack when Barbarossa started, but once they got their shit in gear they halted the German offensive which had already taken significant losses.
tl;dr
Wehrmacht a shit
>>75073617
>After Japan surrendered, it was all but over for Hitler
Japan surrendered after Germany, idiot.
>>75072573
He never wanted control of Europe, he only wanted control of Germany. France and england declared war on Germany not the other way around. Hitler only wanted to push east to reclaim the lost German land from WW1 as the Germans in those lands were being killed and then further east to Russia to defeat Bolshevism for fucking Germany up
>>75073521
This, also, it's much harder to cut into enemy territory when the other side has the home advantage and you're positioning troops much further away.
>>75073617
>Germany surrendered before Japan
>Japan was already negotiating a surrender when you dropped the nukes
>The Japanese high command literally agreed for you to drop the bombs (which you wanted to do to scare the Russians); so they could blame their abysmal miss management of the East Indies on an atomic super weapon; despite the fact firebombing did far more damage.
because the allied casualties are bullshit
>THEY SHOAHED US WAR IS OKAY
>>75073617
The Germans were working on a nuclear bomb also.
A Jew from Germany was granted asylum in London in exchange for giving us blue prints of the nuclear bomb.
I forgot the fuckers name.
>>75073617
...Japan surrendered months after Hitler an heroed
>>75073145
It boggles the mind how one country can be that shit at warfare. And in true Italian backstabbing fashion they switched sides in the middle of it.
Truly the worst possible ally.
>>75073787
>Hitler only wanted to push east to reclaim the lost German land from WW1
Not really lad; did you read Mein Kampf, he was pretty fucking clear about subjugating Slavs and creating lebensraum.
>>75073808
Forgot to add the manditory >American education.
Sorry lads.
>>75073293
If I were an Italian soldier, I wouldn't want to die in the Greek mountains fighting people I have strong cultural ties with either.
>>75073503
Italy wasn't ready for war because of how many resources they wasted in the build-up. Not Hitler's fault. Better to have started war without a useful Italian ally than not at all.
>Mussolini shouldn't have joined in the first place and let Hitler deal with the mediterranean front himself and see how he would've done
No, Mussolini made the right decision to join for French territory in Europe and Africa. Italy lost 6000 men for Savoie, Nice, Grenoble, and Tunisia. Pretty good deal. But somehow Italy lost every other offensive besides Somaliland. German leadership made the mistake of assisting Italy instead of focusing on the East, that was the greatest error
>>75073923
Nope not read it yet, but I will at some point. I don't think someone can really form a proper opinion on Hitler without reading it
>>75073905
They are pretty bad at war, but to be fair they were being led by a complete and utter idiot that was publicly executed.
>>75071093
shitler was a vegan drug addict closet tranny with an inflated sense of self importance. In other words, a typical liberal.
if the uk cant rule europe no one does :^)
>>75074259
Jokes on you. Your empire fell.
>>75074071
Nod really. Italians were utter shit in WW1 as well until Armando Diaz took over. Let's not even discuss the 1st Abyssinian War. Italy also got carried by France and Germany
>>75074061
Ah no worries mate, he basically says how the lands to the East are ancesteral lands of the German people that were invaded by the slavs back when the Germans were hunter gatherers and that the land should be retaken and colonised (Lebensraum) he sent thousands of colonists out during the war all of which came flooding back in; hence the issue with refugees during the post-war period.
>>75074340
So did everyone elses mate.
>>75071093
Hitler decided that it was a good idea to invade russia in the winter while the war was raging in europe
>>75074586
read the thread
>Invaded in June
>Delayed in May because Greece and Floods
>Needed the oil fields after the failure in North Africa.
>>75071093
War on two fronts. USA just recovered from the Great Depression with the world's largest heavy industry just standing there doing nothing & young men who have nothing to do
>>75073997
we weren't taught about details of the war. We were basically taught muh holocaust and then the marshall plan.
>>75074586
They made the decision partly based on the fact that the Winter War against Finland went so badly for the Russians
>>75071093
Because they only had half as many to lose.
Hitler put all of his stats into charisma and none into intelligence
>tfw no Kaiserreich
if only Bismarck were here
>>75071093
Casualties are skewed because Russian zerg rush
>>75074466
Also, this thread is surprisingly civil
>>75071093
>Signing an alliance with Japan
>Not wrecking Britain's shit at Dunkirk
>Not asking for the Danzig corridor at the Munich Conference
>Invading Russia when your fuel reserves are measured in weeks instead of years
>>75071093
>those casualties and losses for the Allies
Long live the Axis, brethren.
Russian winter basically hitler put all his eggs in one basket.
>>75071367
It helps when the Soviet Union's main tactic was to throw people at a problem.
>>75075160
Blame this faggot, he ruined the chances for a cozy WW1 peace. (Though all of you kids still would've been fucked by civil strife anyway)
>>75074059
>I wouldn't want to die fighting people that I have strong cultural ties with.
The Italians were pretty laid back and never committed atrocities unlike Bulgars and Germans
>Taken from the wiki
Compared to the other two zones, the Italian occupation regime was relatively mild, which can be seen from the relatively low number of executions and atrocities committed in the Italian zone of occupation when compared with the atrocities and executions committed in the German and Bulgarian zones. Furthermore, unlike the Germans, and aside from some local commanders, the Italian military protected the Jews in their zone. The Germans were purportedly perturbed as the Italians not only protected Jews on their territory, but in parts of occupied France, Greece, the Balkans, and elsewhere, where they protected local Jewish populations also. On 13 December 1942, Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda minister, wrote in his diary, “The Italians are extremely lax in the treatment of the Jews. They protect the Italian Jews both in Tunis and in occupied France and will not permit their being drafted for work or compelled to wear the Star of David.
>>75075749
Sheeeit, forgot pic
>>75075797
>Compared to the other two zones, the Italian occupation regime was relatively mild
Tbf that's pretty fucking easy to manage when you completely fail at occupying anything
>>75071093
Because Britain
>>75075749
>>75075810
Yee, for a moment I tought you were talking shit about based Bismarck
>>75071247
Semi-rare flag.
Prepare yourself Greekbro, because there's a massive redpilling below.
Hitler knew he was going to lose the war, and still he did it. Hitler, people like him, are to be seen more like a force than an individual. There's been other "Hitlers" in the past and there will aso be others in the future until there will be no more need for them. This is what he said to Hans Grimm in 1928, in their conversation that lasted for more than a hour:
"I know that some Man capable of giving our problems a final solution must appear. I have sought such a man. I could nowhere discover him. And that is why i have set myself to do the preparatory work; only the most urgent preparatory work, for i know that i am myself not, the one. And i know also what is missing in me. But the other one still remains aloof, and nobody comes forward, and there is no more time to be lost."
This is on page 14 of Hans Grimm's "Warum? Woher? Aber wohin?", the 1954 vesion.
>>75074762
>Weren't taught about the details of the war
Probably because you weren't there for most of it.
>>75071093
Pretty good K/D ratio though.
>>75071093
>all those dead slavs
>>75075332
>US
>Empire
>Not an isolationist anglophile nation that got rich off two world wars and dismantling declining Empires.
If it wasn't for it being true; the US being a world power would be a meme, somewhere in an Alternate universe the Serbs did the same thing.
>>75076746
A good chunk of that was subhuman slavs and asians. Not disagreeing though.
>>75072108
China got smashed by the japs
Soviet Russia had zerg rush
>>75071367
slav doctrine, lose as many soldiers to an enemy as possible
>A large group of Russian soldiers in the border area in 1939 are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a small hill: "One Finnish soldier is better than ten Russian". The Russian commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the hill where Upon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence. The voice once again calls out: "One Finn is better than one hundred Russian." Furious, the Russian commander sends his next best 100 troops over the hill and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again Silence. The calm Finnish voice calls out again: "One Finn is better than one thousand Russians from: The enraged Russian commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the hill. Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought... Then silence. Eventually one badly wounded Russian fighter crawls back over the hill and with his dying words tells his commander, "Don't send any more men...it's a trap. There's two of them."
Sometimes I wonder how the average jap feels about the war. Do they have the same type of guilt "culture" (oh vey remember the 6 gorillion)
>>75077331
Legitimately laughed. Thanks Estonia.
>>75077386
Japanese schoolbooks are famous for portraying themselves as the victims of American imperialist aggression.
>>75077331
truly subhumans
>>75077619
wew lad
Sounds better than what we have here though
>>75077475
>Thanks Estonia.
gib javelines plz
>>75077331
explain yourself estonia
>>75077386
did you knew that Japanese constitution prevents their nation from having any kind of army/navy or air force?
>>75078039
>portugal
>>75077826
I would if I had any influence whatsoever.
>>75078039
slavs from east-block are the main reason, cant find link...
anyway its cases per million it means 7-11k has hiv
>>75073042
>June 22nd
>dead of winter
Do you even know actual facts or do you just repeat your highschool "education"?
>>75078191
It's not ike we have one either. The Bundeswehr is a fucking joke.
Based Abe will make Japan great again
>>75071093
cause they hade an autistic retard in charge
>inb4 muh generic insult
the truth hurts faggots, deal with it
>>75077331
Fucking utterly keked based estonia
>>75078039
slavs
someone add the liberator face to this picture please
>>75072573
>Another Week
>American education
You do realise the British almost single handedly destroyed the Luftwaffe and Kreigsmarine?
Literally no way Hitler could get to us after the failure of the battle of Britain and the Ironwall forever on guard.
>>75071093
Because italians.
>>75078571
>>75078770
east slavs are pretty special
Reminder
"What General Weygand has called The Battle of France is over. The battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilisation. Upon it depends our own British life and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of a perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour"."
>>75073923
"did you read Mein Kampf"
>every fucking time
When do people finally resort to actually read some books and not resort to memes?
>>75075576
The chink losses skew the results.
>>75079133
what
>>75077752
Why would a white be mad at a black banging an asian?
>>75076780
>tfw that tank wasn't finished
>>75071093
>What could've been if they won.
>>75078858
He's american.
Don't bother.
>>75079133
Adolf Hitler – Mein Kampf
-
Die vier Wege deutscher Politik
p. 147-48
Die Natur kennt keine politischen Grenzen. Sie setzt die Lebewesen zunächst auf
diesen Erdball und sieht dem freien Spiel der Kräfte zu. Der Stärkste an Mut und Fleiß
erhält dann als ihr liebstes Kind
das Herrenrecht des Daseins
zugesprochen.
Wenn ein Volk sich auf innere Kolonisation beschränkt, da andere Rassen sich auf
immer größeren Bodenflächen dieser Erde festklammern, wird es zur
Selbstbeschränkung schon zu einer Zeit zu greifen gezwungen sein, da die übrigen
Völker sich noch dauernd fortvermehren. Einmal tritt aber dieser Fall ein, und zwar um
so früher, je kleiner der zur Verfügung stehende
Lebensraum
eines Volkes ist. Da im
allgemeinen leider nur zu häufig die besten Nationen oder, noch richtiger, die einzigen
wahrhaften Kulturrassen, die Träger alles menschlichen Fortschrittes, sich in ihrer
pazifistischen Verblendung entschließen, auf
neuen Bodenerwerb
Verzicht zu leisten,
um sich mit „innerer“ Kolonisation zu begnügen, minderwertige Nationen aber
ungeheure Lebensflächen auf dieser Welt sich zu sichern verstehen, würde dies zu
folgendem Endergebnis führen: ....
Murphy Translation p. 115
“Nature knows no political frontiers. She begins by establishing life on this globe and
then watches the free play of forces. Those who show the greatest courage and
industry are the children nearest to her heart and they will be granted
the sovereign
right of existence
.
>>75079513
United Federation of Planets
>>75079251
The "did you read mein kampf" meme is always brought up by people who haven´t read the book. Because barely anyone has read it, the other side of the arguments always says "no I haven´t".
Lebensraum is in Mein Kampf yes, but I haven´t found a passage where this "slav untermensch slave race" meme comes from. He only "hates" on the slaves in terms of the pre WW1 era, where slavs flood his home vienna thanks to austria-hungary being a multi ethnic nation.
>pic related
>>75079946
>not Terran Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORfwJ0-SGM
Germany lacked manpower and industrial base.
America was a nation covering an entire continent, Germany was not even a 4th as large, and surrounded by enemies.
Germany never had a chance, they were dwarfed by the mighty burger.
>>75072108
>burger thinks k/d ratio matters in war
This is why you lost Vietnam despite having a 50/1 ratio of killing gooks.
>>75080161
> TLDR
> I ain't got time fo' dat shit
>>75071093
>Allies Military dead: 16,000,000
>USSR Military dead: 15,900,000
>Everybody else: 100,000
>>75080403
>implying your are not going to shitpost on pol until at least 1a.m.
>>75080541
>100'000
Are you forgetting the 300 gorillion* anon?
*50k according to Rabe, 430'000 according to the Guomindang, 200-300k according to most historians
>>75073997
No shit, the lack of knowledge from some of my countrymen astounds me.
>>75074762
Then read a fucking book asshole. You can't blame everything on the education system, you as a Westerner have an obligation to educate yourself inside and outside of school.
>>75080161
Inderdasting
>>75071093
because socialism doesn't work.
>>75076697
Most British victories can be attributed to Commonwealth forces, not British. You guys literally did fuck all during the war. So while we may have not been involved from the start, at least our own victories are our own, unlike yours.
>>75072108
Literally 55 million of that was Soviets (who had the zerg rush to pull through) and Chinks.
>>75081233
The South Vietnamese ruined Americas killcount. Sneaky gooks.
>>75072573
>Was only going to be like another week before he overtook Britain.
No hope. They couldn't even pull of Sealion with the Royal navy still existing, they didn't even have proper landing ships, just port barges.
It would have been a disaster of epic proportions.
>>75073617
>VE day in June
>VJ day in August
American Education
>>75081999
fucking upside down poland
>>75081999
>>75079513
The V2 continued though, and we developed shit like the Vulcan in under a decade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emMIM3CKGtQ
>>75082348
>>75081729
>You guys literally did fuck all during the war. So while we may have not been involved from the start, at least our own victories are our own, unlike yours.
Nice joke; American education strikes yet again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_Kingdom_during_World_War_II
580,497 men were killed in active service during the entire war for the British Empire and it's dominions and colonies.
383,700 of which were British
>>75081729
>Most British victories can be attributed to Commonwealth forces, not British.
>>75073855
Albert Einstein?
Not sure if that's who your talking about
>>75081729
>You guys literally did fuck all during the war.
>>75077752
Isn't she dead?
>>75082169
I actually thought it was poland for a moment lmao
>>75071093
Because he attack a nation led by josef Stalin
>>75083611
That stare man
That stare would make millions of dead Russians piss their pants if they were still alive and not brutally murdered by their own countrymen
>>75083027
No, it was before him. It was blue prints to nuclear theorem or something.
It was a Jewish guy that gave it to the British government in exchange for asylum here, it's real and he existed I just can't for the life of me remember the fuckers name.
>>75084120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Szilard#Developing_the_idea_of_the_nuclear_chain_reaction
Found him.
Because nazi were absolutely retarded and thought they could fight wars on both eastern and western fronts
>>75082712
>>75082900
>>75083278
>To establish a proper manpower balance for the United States in wartime was as difficult as it was important. Out of some 25,000,000 Americans physically fit for military service, the absolute ceiling on the number that could be utilized for active duty was estimated to be between fifteen and sixteen million. [4] On the surface, it was hard to understand, given this pool of manpower, why there should be any manpower problem at all. Why, if Germany could maintain a military establishment of 9,835,000 or 10.9 percent of its population and Britain could support 3,885,000 or 8.2, did American manpower officials insist in late 1942 that 10,500,000 or only 7.8 percent would be the maximum force that the country could sustain without incurring serious dislocation to the American economy? [5]
http://www.history.army.mil/books/70-7_15.htm
According to F.W. Perry, The Commonwealth Armies: Manpower and Organisation in Two World Wars
>By 1945, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, India, and New Zealand had 7,879,000 men within the military However, the various militaries reached their peak strength well before than and during 1945 all armies started down scaling their armed forces (in some cases extremely rapidly). Mind you India provided 2.5 million, Canada 730,000, South Africa 334,000, New Zealand 124,000, Australia 600,000 this equals 4,298,000 million men (numbers on what the Poles provided and the French are a varied so I did not add them.)
Britain provided 3,581,000, half of these stayed in the British isles to "defend" it.
Britain didn't do shit and the Commonwealth and the USA won their war
>>75079946
This.
>>75084864
>the USA won their war
That is adorable, so we can all agree that the next time a thread is made blaming the UK for the destruction of Europe by not allowing Hitler to win, we can attribute the credit to America?
Yes?
That's what you're saying? Good because your post is being screenshotted and used for future rebuttal.
Have a nice evening fatty.
>>75084864
You do know most of the Indians stayed in India right? Or fought in Burma. And ANZACs obviously fought in the east, not in Europe, defending their countries.
It wasn't poo in loos on the beaches on D Day. It was Brits and Canadians.
>>75085101
No no, let him have it.
America won the war, just like they won Vietnam, just like they won with Cuba, just like they won in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Let them have their "victories".
It's the closest and most obscure way they'll ever hope to come close to winning any kind of war in their nations history and indeed future.
;^)
>three of the most incompetent military leaders in history team up
Gee, what could go wrong?
>>75071093
Because most of those deaths were russian zerg or chinese being rekt. they were fighting two front wars. japan had to leave soviet which opened up their troops for the western theatre, while they maintained control in china and fought the us which held considerable power. the germans had to fight soviet who they rekt to a new dimension, but fell on the finishing line due to attrition and the fact the allies supplied soviet. meanwhile they had to maintain control in occupied territories in france, poland, yugoslavia - you get the idea. meanwhile the brits continously bomb them, and then america gets involved in europe and d day commences which meant the germans were not only pressured on the soviet theater, but also in france. they were also fighting in the colonies, and eventually italy crumbles from the inside.
>>75071093
Sided with filthy japs and useless italy, committed numerous war crimes on occupied territories.
is it pronounced "not see" or nay-z (rhyme with jay-z)?
>>75085379
The British were sitting on their little floating turd of an island begging the big, strong burger to uncuck them.
You were about to be overrun until we graciously entered the war and planned out D-day for you retards.
>>75085658
>>75085658
Japan is best ally
>>75071093
Fought on too many fronts. If he was less arrogant he could have formed a truce with the UK after sieging them long enough. The focus should have been linking up with Japan and securing the middle-east before moving to conquer Russia. Instead he spearheaded for Russia's capital and Japan attacked the US presence.
>>75085081
You can attribute it to both America, The Commonwealth,
and your incompetence of solving a problem before it became out of hand
>>75085101
Poo in Loos may have over overwhelmingly remained in India, But there were a sizable amount that fought in Italy
>>75085379
The UK's entire history is letting other people be destroyed for their own gain. Funny that you don't like it when it happens to you, but what comes around goes around
>>75085710
Again
>Kreigsmarine
>Luftwaffe
We literally had to defend your coast against German U-boats, 95% of German casulties from 41 onwards were on the Eastern front.
You were about as significant as Brazil, we were in it from the start.
>>75085702
>being this linguistically retarded
>>75085710
>You were about to be overrun until we graciously entered the war and planned out D-day for you retards.
Yanks make me laugh every time. By the time you entered Hitler had given up on Sealion the year before, we were winning in North Africa and the Germans had ground to a halt against the soviets (where they lost 95% of their troops).
>>75085710
Sure sure you are the victors.
>>75085889
No no no no oh no you don't baby boy, you want the victory, you get all that goes with it, including the blame.
Enjoy it son. Enjoy it all!
>>75085795
These faggots are retarded, dangerous and totally unpredictable. Only a madman will choose them as allies.
They should be partially gassed and sent to concentration camps for forced anime making labour
>>75086029
No no anon, the Americans were doing that.
Listen to the genius American victors.
They are the victors, we did nothing, remember that. We didn't do a thing!
;^)
>>75085925
so which is it?
>>75084803
>>75071303
>>75071191
Hitler was not a fucking retard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClR9tcpKZec
Jews are guilty for all.
In all of German-occupied Europe, there resided 2.4 million jews before the war, according to the World Jewish Encyclopedia.
After the war, 3.8 million jewish "Holocaust Survivors" were receiving pensions from the German government.
Tragically, the remaining 6 million were lost.
>>75085905
>We literally had to defend your coast against German U-boats
Top kek. You begged and pleaded for our help for years while we were throwing billions of dollars of aid and equipment at you and you still got cucked. We had to actually enter the war and do it all for you.
What a worthless, floating turd of a nation you are.
>>75086090
They a honorary aryans and btfo the chinks
>>75086178
And now you're a 60% shitskin nation with a nigger muslim president.
Funny how things turn out isn't it?
Now go get cucked and attend your white privilege classes whilst Jamal, De-Kwan and Liniqua Le Darius the Third fuck your girlfriend.
Good goy.
>>75086454
Mishima was literally a faggot you know, right?
>>75086139
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/aussprache/englisch/nazi
>>75086518
That's why he was a honorary Aryan
>>75071093
HE FUCKED UP BY DECLARING WAR ON THE UNITED STATES BABY!
HHHEEEEE HAAAAAAA
>>75086508
And we're still the most powerful nation in the world while shitholes like Romania are 96% white. So much for the stormfag master race theory.
Daily reminder that you lost all of your colonies because WE TOLD YOU TO.
TOP K U C K
>>75086178
>while we were throwing billions of dollars of aid and equipment
>billions
Ahahahaha no.
>>75086518
>falling for the vaginal jew
>>75077386
its taboo to talk about it
>>75086518
Turing was a homosexual who singlehandedly won you the war and you guys killed him.
>>75086671
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#Scale
>A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $659 billion today) worth of supplies were shipped, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the U.S.[2] In all, $31.4 billion went to Britain, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France, $1.6 billion to China, and the remaining $2.6 billion to the other Allies.
What is life like living as a dumb ass?
>>75086454
Read up on the multiple battles for Changsha, after being humiliated in 37 the Chinamen did eventually get their shit together and participated actively until the end of the war.
>>75073036
t. Liberator)))))))))))))
>>75086924
>$31.4 billion went to Britain
Wait what?
What the fuck did they do with it?
>>75071093
>4 million civs dead
>muh 6 gorillion
When were you when wikipedia didn't aknowledge jews as people?
>>75086700
>>75086598
>>75086891
I'm gay too, was just pointing it out to what I thought was some naziboo
>>75071093
because italy was a shitty ally
>>75087185
Most of the Jews were polish citizens
>>75078039
>AIDStugal
>>75071093
Shame that the legacy of Chiang Kai-shek has been wiped out by Commie Skum.
>>75086924
tbf lease and aid is not quite the same, they had to pay for it.
>>75087311
Nah man. I'm a homosex as well
no long range bombers means that germany couldnt reach the industries the soviets had moved east, nor could they even touch USA's.
>>75078858
It's not that mate, it's the attrition.
Sure, the Londoners were toughing it out but I guarantee that if the continuous bombing went on any longer, mass parts of the population would have cracked all at once.
As well, the High Command would have eventually developed a coherent strategy to bomb out your industries and it would have been over.
Face it mate, it wasn't British planes or British men that stopped Germany. It was their own lack of interest.
>>75071093
Many people would disagree but the main reason for this was very simple - tanks. Prior to 1943 germans didn't have a reliable way of fighting T-34 models and KV-1 because their armor was too good and the HE shells they mostly used were devastating to the tanks germany had then, they even went out of their way to use french and czech tanks and tank factories because theirs were shit. Only high-velocity AT guns could rek the soviet armor but those were very immobile and hard to setup, mostly good for a defense but good luck attacking with them while enemy armor rains HE shells at you.
This halted any real offensive the germans could do and essentially shat on barbarosa so hard, you can tell by the way Hitler talks with Manstein about the 30k+ T-34 tanks he faced in the east, he couldn't believe it was possible.
Then they had to build elaborate, stupid tanks like the Tiger and the Panther and they couldn't mass produce them because of time, resources and the crews needed for them.
If Hitler had good tanks to counter the early soviet armor in 1940-41 the war would have been over then.
>>75087185
>what is 45M dead civilians on the Allies side
There are exactly two reasons why Germany lost.
1.) They threw away too many brilliant Jewish scientists and engineers, and lost the race to the atomic age because of it. If they had waited until after the war to start the final solution, they would have had the bomb first and won the war.
2.) The United States subsidized the Soviet war machine through the Lend-Lease Act. If we hadn't stepped in with billions of dollars in cash and supplies, the USSR would have fallen pretty quickly, allowing Germany to focus all of its energy on western Europe.
>>75088485
i really wanna lick her tummy hair
>>75088485
Second reason is legitimate, first is bullshit.
You cannot objectively prove that if Germany threw all their jews at the A-bomb they would have gotten there first.
As well, it wasn't truly a matter of the science. It was the funding. The bomb was funded jointly by USA, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. All of them had a hand in it. I know this because I live 20 minutes from the mine where Little Boy and Fat Man's uranium came from.
>>75085905
Shut up you fucking Union Jackass.
You did not defeat both the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine singlehandedly. Just shut up.
The Luftwaffe was defeated by the Soviet air force supplied by the USA, and the US Air Force over a period of 4 years. You did not win the air war in one fucking day in 1940. Shut up bitch.
As for the Kriegsmarine, both you and the USA have equal claim to beating them. Don't act like good 'ol Tommy beat every U-Boat by himself though.
>>75088485
Yeah, the Germans attacked the USSR at the perfect moment. They were completely re-structuring and rebuilding their Military force and just starting to industrialize. The U.S did give some much needed assistance, but the Russians probably would have been able to hold out until 1944 at the very least had they been on their own.
>Fun fact: the SVT-40 was the standard issue weapon of the Red Army until 1942
>this resulted in catastrophic loss of supplies to the Germans, and was very difficult to maintain for Russian soldiers, then the USSR swapped back to the Mosin Nagant rifle, and then they went into full body throwing mode.
>>75071093
Italy
This country doesn't get enough hate here
They lost because Hitler went literally insane and he was a terrible military leader to begin with.
Also the UK did literally nothing until the US joined the war besides abandon Poland and France and dick around on their island. Slim was cool in Burma I guess?
I'm so glad that fascist scum hitler had to kill himself in the end.
The one war that I really think usa ever did something good for the whole world is ww2.
Fucking fascists. nazis and neo-nazis u will all die! ( or just kill yourselves like your ultimate hero did )
>>75071093
>wasted time in the polish campaing
>japan going into the most retarded war possible
>Italy cucking itself since always
>Adolf invaded russia and did the exact same mistake that napoleon did, how can you be so stupid.
>>75090571
Napoleons scenario was different. The Russians willingly gave ground to french forces, retreating, retreating, and stalling whilst cossacks hit french supply lines and starved them out.
The Wehrmacht in its fight against the USSR was different. Yes they had Partisans, but they made sure they didn't give ground past Stalingrad.
Kek, all you pathetic Neo-Nazis have to say about WW2 is m-muh KDR radio!11!1!!!!!!
>>75091136
>Stalingrad
What happen to that city after the war?
>>75073125
>got next to nothing out of it economically.
ethiopia was a long term investment, they planned to resettle the land with ethnic italians and replace the africans over decades, ethiopia is rich in resources and 5 times bigger than italy
sanctions and ww2 ended any chance of making a profit out of it
blame britan and france for that
as for spain it was to help a fellow fascist dictator get to power and test military equipment like rifles, artillery but expecially new planes like the sparviero bomber
>>75091909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volgograd
>>75071093
Because the Japs hit Pearl Harbor two years ahead of schedule.
>>75072108
most of which were soviet and chinese civilians, the axis started having real trouble when the US entered the war
also nukes, japan was slaughtering mainland china but we only needed a bunch of islands and two cities with about 200k people wiped out for them to surrender
>>75081343
I didn't say I didn't learn it. Stop sperging out on me, dumbass. I said public school didn't teach it.
>>75071093
Because Hitler kept butting into his Generals and military leaders. He just needed to let them do their own fucking thing, should have ignored a lot of his commands desu.
because Communism >>> Fascism
>>75073905
Trying to find the source now, I was reading awhile back the one of Italy's main problems was the modernized their armed forces too early for WWII, in the late 20s and early 30s they had an awesome air force and a pretty decent army, but by the late 30s all their equipment and tactics were out of date.
>>75094066
>also nukes, japan was slaughtering mainland china but we only needed a bunch of islands and two cities with about 200k people wiped out for them to surrender
The nuclear weapon is on a completely different level. They didn't surrender after Tokyo was firebombed, killing even more people. The nuclear weapon is a single bomb. It has an immense psychological effect.
>>75071093
short story: they bit off more than they could chew
long story: go read a history book
>>75087518
we all are
>>75077752
why is there a pizza on the floor?
>>75072751
Why don't Italians speak English as well as you? I talk to literal PhD students and their English is horrible.
>>75071093
Because winter was coming, but hitler ignored it as it had been spouted for too long and lost its edge.
>Italy
>45 000 000 civilian deaths from the axis
>only 4 000 000 from the allies
>>75071093
Their leader was an idiot.
>>75075736
When will this meme die.
>>75071093
They fucked up by betraying Stalin and trying to pull a napoleon. Had the Germans stayed friends with Stalin the world wouldn't be covered in mudslim poopoo like it is now.
>>75077331
This is Facebook tier but damn was that legitimately funny. Thanks, Esti.
