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Truckers BTFO completely, MASS UNEMPLOYMENT NOW
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RIP Truckers, eat a fat metal robot dick.

>my job is to drive

It's fucking over for you dumb hick trash. RIP 1.5 million+ Jobs. A fucking bunch of ex-google engineers are literally skull fucking you right now.

Glorious technology finally destroying meatbags. Muh workers, Muh Labor Market, get fucked retards.
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>Hard Worker

Like that fucking matters. A robot works 24/7 and doesn't get paid. You fucking lose. Dumb Meatbag Trash. Your labor is worthless.
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>>75016230
Takes me back to that Simpson episode when Homer has to temp for a trucker and falls asleep, realizing the truck has autopilot.
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I recently found out most modern big rigs are automatic transmission. I really lost respect for truckers if they're not gear jammers anymore.
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>>75016519
Meatbags = extinct soon.
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>>75016230
I don't fucking trust this shit at all. They have to revoke everyone's right to drive before they let robot cars on the road. Good fucking luck doing that in 'Merica any time soon
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>>75016230
Who will refuel the truck?
Who will unload the truck?
What happens if the truck needs to do a special maneuver?

I'm all for making things more efficient, and I realize this is just the beginning, but there are many things that humans are still needed for in the trucking business.

inb4 butthurt trucker
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>>75016811
you first
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Can't wait for Euro Truck Simulator 2020
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>>75016230
>ruining people's lives
>it's their fault
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these trucks will be required to have somebody at the wheel at all times. all it means is that the job of a trucker will now be easier.
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I'm stoked for automated cars and the collapse of the used car market in the next 5 years. Turns out leasing was the smarter choice after all ;^)
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>>75016230
Bernie said truckers should be trained to conduct trains under his Presidency
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>>75016230
>uses cameras and sensors to keep a truck inbetween white lines and a safe distance from cars on a stretch of highway

Yeah, when they can strap down and tarp a flatbed load multiple times and drive through rush hour traffic in a major city they might be automated.

Until then it's just improved cruise control.
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>>75017049
I will never let a vehicle drive for me. Ever. Period end of discussion
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there's no way it'll be legal out the gate to have self-driving anything without a human behind the wheel. then it'll be legal to not be behind the wheel, but you'll have to have a human in it. 20+ years later fully autonomous self-driving cars will be legal.

if there's any kind of trucker's union, triple my time estimates.
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>>75017163
You probably won't have a choice friend.
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>>75017163
Enjoy your death by human failure.
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>>75016883
Pajeet for min wage and will be replaced yearly.
Amazon stock robots.
Pajeet remote driving through camera.
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>>75017229
Nope. Don't care. I will. No manual choice mode? Ill figure out alternatives.
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>>75016230

Heh, spoken true just like any other 4 wheeler that doesn't understand the importance of a trucker.

It ain't gonna back itself, there's still a driver. Maybe you should be more thankful, after all you're using a computer brought to by a trucker, using power brought to you by a trucker to power it, and of course all the infrastructure of all that entails.

t. trucker
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>>75017252
Yeah right. Y'all dumbass nigguhs'll be flyin all over the place
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>>75017163
it's all a ruse. they don't want people to be able to drive themselves or ram through barriers. that's why new cars brake automatically. they want to be able to turn off our cars with a button. drive us all of a cliff on auto pilot. fucking ruse!
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I don't care what any of you say the most unsafe vehicle on the road are pick up trucks. More specifically the lifted ones.
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>>75017394
No I mean legally you will be required to have an automated car or insurance will cost so much more to drive yourself you won't be able to afford it.
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>tfw 21 y/o trucker

Fuck yeah give me that sweet unemployment and NEET package
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>>75017451
Oh most definitely. ABS is utter shite on snow. Oops. One of your 38 cameras was chipped by a stone. Now u ded and in 36 hour traffic like chinamen
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>>75016672
Most truckers (ones I know and my dad) hate that shit. They prefer manual because the automatics are slow as shit and makes merging on the interstate fucking hell. It's not really their fault their companies force this shit on them for fuel efficiency.
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>>75017478
As if we haven't figured out all the boomer schemes already
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>>75016230

>yonder looms have blown ye luddites thee fuck out

Great, guess now that menial labor is extinct we no longer need the 30-50 million strong horde of undeported migrants squatting in the united states

we expect your robots to have them rounded up in temporary internment camps for deportation before sundown, or you are out of the A.I. business

- t. citizen
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>>75017577
Whoops forgot to take off my trip
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It is coming much faster than you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM
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>>75017592
Actually. They will be programmed to smash into manual drivers. Hyperloop trains sound iffy. Thanks zionism
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But this has already been proven to be impossible. Completely autonomous trucks are far off from being a thing since there it a lot to driving a truck besides just sitting in the seat. Trucks need to fuel, park, navigate hazerdous situation that requires proper judgement, ensure that equipment is safe and in satisfactory condition, and more.

It isn't like flipping a burger.
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>>75016230

I am sure the truckers will be completely fine with it and not riot :^). Everyone is okay when mass unemployment happens
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>>75017577

My employer got all new auto's and holy fuck, when empty, i accelerate like im loaded. It shifts so fucking quick, and "manual" mode only lets me go to 1700 rpm, instead of 2000. It's real nice in rush hour.
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>automation will make immigrants unnecessary

I for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
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>>75017478
Unfortunately this is probably going to be the case, especially considering in America at least, you have a right to freely travel, but require licensing (and insurance by law in some states) to even operate a car. The moment this rolls out to the consumer the days of the manual car driver will be coming to an end.
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>>75017735
Oops there's the magnetic gas filler. The promises of handling and etc etc. Don't underestimate how garbage people think
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ITT mad meatbags upset they are going extinct.

How do you expect your atoms to be used?
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>Companies relentlessly mechanize the labor force
>Still insist that everyone works a job to prevent starvation and homelessness

ayy lmao humanity
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>>75017877
Why are you so retarded and lazy you can't even tilt your fat diabetic foot away from yourself by 25 degrees?
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>>75017252

>"human failure"

>blatantly forgetting who programs, manufactures, and controls these robots
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How easy is it gonna be to rob these things? Drive along site the truck with a microwave gun, take out its computer, it pulls over, unload the truck. Can't wait to get a pallet of iphones for free.
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>make a self driving truck
>give it windshield wipers
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>>75017831
Perhaps. But there will always be refugees that need your help. And it's your duty as European to take care of them, espcially England, countries that colonized and exploited half the world. Time to pay.
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>mfw niggers jump in front of the autotrucks and make them crash
liberal utopia cucked once again
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>>75017158
They can
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>>75016883
You just have a dock worker or two with cdl
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>>75018039
Exactly. Fuck it. Play backgammon so you don't notice HAL-3000 going Country Kitchen Buffet on your ass
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>>75016230
Chill out bro.

It's only a matter of time until a big enough % of people are replaced by automation before we see the end of capitalism and wage slavery. This is only the beginning.
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>>75017528
>implying it wont go to niggers and women
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>>75016883
>Who will refuel the truck?
robots
>Who will unload the truck?
robots
>What happens if the truck needs to do a special maneuver?
robots

Why do you think that robots can't do these things?
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what about rain tho
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>>75017163
K, found the luddite
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>>75018136
Basic Guaranteed Income probably. How boring
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>>75016230
WOW Nice driving on clear roads but how does it fair in heavy stop and go traffic due to human error?
Why don't they show these automated computer trucks during the most dense and packed roads?

THIS A FUCKING ABOMINATION NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS STUPID HURR DURR CLEAR SKIES NO HUMANS ON THE ROAD WE'RE SO PERFECT BULLSHIT

2/10 not impressed
SEX BOTS WHEN!?!?!?
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>>75018078
A little google prius is a lot different than an 80,000lb truck.

Google's car hit a bus earlier this year.

They've also been in a lot of accidents before but they settled out of court so they could claim each one was the human's fault and not theirs.
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>>75018078
seeing that shit and knowing what it is, is not the same thing. it can only recognize shit it was programmed to.
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>>75017877

>meatbags

Are you HK 47 from KOTOR? Weakest term I've ever read on this board.
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>>75018218
It has magic robot fingerprints that grip the road. Made from 6 million foreskins>>75018218
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>>75016230
You're celebrating having more people on welfare?

Idiot.
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>>75018342
I meant as far as the on-vehicle cameras are concerned
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>>75018206
Because I've never seen a warehouse that has an automatic forklift.

Where are these robot forklifts?

How the fuck is there going to be driverless semis when they can't even automate a forklift?
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>>75017957
This.
Capitalism absolutely requires inefficient human-based work force to maintain a proper economic cycle.

Automation is death to any inefficiency, which includes the inefficiency in the economy that's being automated.
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>>75016883
>but there are many things that humans are still needed for in the trucking business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y_J7fg03fA
lol, I mean seriously. What the fuck is wrong with you /pol/? Why are you this behind in tech?
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>>75018342
>6 gazillion

Ftfy
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>>75016230
>Self-Driving anything
Nice try, Correct the Record. Stop being stupid faggots and actually bring forth arguments to convince me, instead of blatantly shitposting and sliding threads.
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>>75018425
what about fog
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>>75018318
Machine Learning m8
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>>75016880
I don't trust it either, particularly knowing what I know about computer programmers.

The main reason is that they are going to have to program moral decisions, which I don't like at all.

For example, suppose the truck is driving and the car in front of it stops short. Now, the truck is either going to have to hit that car or swerve and sideswipe the car next to it. You can imagine a million other hypothetical scenarios in which a moral choice will have to be pre-programmed.

I don't want programmers making these kind of moral decisions.
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>>75018479
The tesla self charging snake is more impressive desu.
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>>75018538
https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-clever-way-fords-self-driving-cars-navigate-in-snow/
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>allowing vehicles of that size to be driven automatically across all freeways and highways

no governing body is going to allow this on public roads.
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>>75018538
Good posts. Robocunts btfo
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>tfw 25 year old trucker

They're fucking over everyone. Do you know how easy my job is? I ride the cruise control the entire day through the country while listening to my YouTube playlist.

Do you know how much I cleared last year? Nearly $70,000.

I doubt the govt. will legalize these, as 10m+ people would become unemployed and a burden on society.
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>>75018283
First of all,
>A FUCKING LEAF
Second of all,
>A FUCKING LEAF, not wanting virtually unlimited production of items, and money only being a thing to prevent overconsumption of goods.
Now, once more for good measure,
>A FUCKING LEAF!
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>>75018206
Because it's 2016 and we only just have some prototypes that can pick up a 10lb box

Talk to me in 2020 and we'll see how far robotics has gone.
We have gone very far with stationary robots (assembly line robots), but we have just started with mobile robots that need to adapt to different environments and situations, aka "smart" robots.
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>>75018584
How is that worse than methed up rednecks making those decisions?
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>>75018528
Hi grandpa, thanks for the birthday card you sent!
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>>75018683
They will find one.

Who has more power? Truck drivers or capitalists.
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>>75018683
With the money they save in labor they'll build their own roads.
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>>75018772
That'll be $116,412,314,212,946,741.71 for your new cologne-scented Schick Nano
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>>75018560
what are you talking about. even the best ai only knows what was put in it. it can't think outside what has been programmed. they had an ai try to look at pics of dogs and wolves and try to tell what was what. it was right 100%. because all the pics with wolves it them had snow and it would just start looking for snow.
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>>75017007
>these trucks will be required to have somebody at the wheel at all times.
Maybe for a short while until people realize how stupid that is.
>all it means is that the job of a trucker will now be easier.
You don't need a unionized, specially trailed and licensed trucker for this "job".

It's a minimum wage, useless, robot baby-sitting job where the reality is the robot is more reliable, less accident prone and tireless compared to human labor.

If you're a trucker, cab or uber driver NOW is the time to change careers.
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Technocracy is real
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>>75016230
EVERYONE MOVE TO PMC NOW
EVERYONE MOVE TO CONTRACTING NOW
WHO'S GOING TO DETER THEFT AT TRUCK STATIONS IF THERE ARE NO TRUCKERS AROUND GETTING WASTED AND BUYING UNDERAGE PROSTITUTES!?
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>>75016230
>demonizing people for having a job

Kill yourself, you pathetic little jizzrag.
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>>75018775
It just seems less evil to make a decision that can end someone's life in the spur of the moment vs. a bunch of nerds sitting around the table arguing about who should die in the abstract.
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>>75016230
>imlpying it will ever be legal to have a vehicle on the road with no driver

This just makes the jobs of truck drivers easier. Law is always going to require a human behind the wheel in case something goes wrong. Autopilot didn't put airline pilots out of business.
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>>75018774
walking kinematics are very complex and involve a lot of different advancements.

They aren't comparable to self-driving cars.

Walking to locomotion
is the same as
Flapping wings to Airplanes

We can't build anything like a bird, but we can have mach 3 jets cross the world.
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>>75016880
There is no right to drive; driving is a privilege.
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I would never get on a highway again in my life if there were self driving 18-wheeler trucks. I'm not going to turn into paste because of a fucking computer crash.
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>>75018584
Pretty easy.....just add laser markers to the trucks stopping distance both in front and behind the truck that let humans know where the "danger zone" is- if you willingly stay within that area at high speed you're a fucking retard and deserve to get plowed through if you suddenly stop on the highway
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>>75018666
spelled fog wrong m80
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>>75018823
>truckdrivers park their trucks for 3 days
>whole country without food, millions of businesses shut down
>niggers riot in every major city

Won't be hard.
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>>75016230
>google
Kek, doubt it will actually work, even if it does it will still be a piece of shit and massively restricted for legal reasons.
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>>75019066
We're so retarded. I never thought of it from that angle. As if there were never red rings of death or blue screens of death.
>weeeeee!
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>>75016230
there was still a person needed inside the vehicle, it's a net equality on labor if not worse for trucking companies since the driver would also need to be trained on how to fix the self driving car
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>>75018915
They'd surely just pour it into new train tracks instead of developing new roads for trucks.
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>>75018584
>"knowing what I know about computer programmers."
I.e nothing
Pic related: you
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>>75018991
HEAVILY PRIVATELY GUARDED AUTONOMOUS FREIGHT-MOVING TRUCK DEPOTS COMING TO THE US

They're going to start hiring like it's 2006 again
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>>75019200
Nah. The robot tow truck will come and DATA will laugh at you as he drops you off at the euthanasia booth
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>>75019053
You're not
>>75018206

So I don't understand your point.
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>>75018283
>>75018772
I'm not sure there's any way to implement Basic Income without making it so small that your quality of life would be total shit.

Without any incentive to work, there's no incentive to learn. Illiteracy and mathematical ineptitude will skyrocket. And the economy will basically function by sucking dry the last few productive members of society, the people helping maintain, develop, and power all the automated shit.
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>>75019030
You responded

That is why the OP was written that way.
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>>75019332
But money is worthless nothingness. It can go forever and we can balloon our asses
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>>75019046
Your emotions make you weak, that is why the autists and their robots will win.
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>>75019355
So?
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>>75019076
That's not really my point.

Suppose there is a mechanical failure and the truck can either jackknife and cause a 15 car pileup behind it in which there is a 50% chance that someone will die, or it can avoid the jacknife by going into oncoming traffic, where there is a 40% chance that it will hit an oncoming car and if that happens a 100% chance that someone will die.

Someone is going to have to program the AI to make these difficult moral choices, not in the spur of the moment, but years in advance, entirely removed and distant from the situation. I find that really objectionable.
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>>75019409
You just gotta become a bottom bitch
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>>75019287
How will the towtruck find the truck if there's blackspots all over the country with no gps coverage?
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>>75018774
>Because it's 2016 and we only just have some prototypes that can pick up a 10lb box
that's horseshit. You don't need a humanoid robot to lift boxes and shipping crates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7viJdnKkOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsMdN7HMuA
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>yfw Euro truck simulator was the beta for the software
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>>75019479
All the more reason not to do this. But we will.
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>>75016883
either the truck will be able to refuel itself by attaching itself to the station, or the station will hire people specifically to refuel automated trucks
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>>75018991
This or start to hijacking trucks. What a time to be alive. It's going to be like being a privateer in the Caribbean in the 1800's
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>>75019355
You know, the topic is interesting enough to get a discussion going.

You don't have to sound like a cunt just to get people to reply.
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How is this gonna cause unemployment?

There's still a guy inside, I imagine he's being paid.
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>>75019627
So many things we don't think about. They'll put P90s and .500s on them
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>>75018777
Good luck passing the laws that legalizes this shit, faggot.
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>>75018468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU8CP-eES68
skip to 0;45
if anything forklifts are among the easiest to automate, it's just pallets stored on a shelf and a couple of prongs pick them up and move them elsewhere.

I can't speak for interaction with human operated trucks but just moving around the warehouse would be easy.
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/economic-development/nevada-help-driverless-car-industry

Nevada is fucking sucking the cum out of robo cock.

ITs happening
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>>75016883

As someone who works in logistics, any of that can be done by humans for all I care just so long as we get rid of the fucking drivers. They're all unreliable hacks. They can seriously fuck off.
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>>75019540
But we won't though. Driverless cars are decades away, let alone driverless semis.

It's like every single thread about this shit is made by someone who thinks a semi is a larger car that just drives on an interstate all day and ships to a mega warehouses, like they don't even consider all the other things truckers do.
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>>75018037

Lol. And the iPhones too dumbass!
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>>75019658
with automaton, trucking will be a much easier job, something anyone can do, such as a programmer for the company for example
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>>75019804
Here's another question I have. These cars better know the difference between leaves, plastic bags, tennis balls, pets, frisbees, hail, and frogs
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>>75018468
Amazon has robots that can move warehouse pallets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A
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>>75019627
This guy is right.

A lot of people don't realize, but some of the truck loads are worth millions of dollars. How easy would it be for a hacker to divert a truck?
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>>75019860
Nope. Theyre already here and itll be only about 5-8 years
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>>75018584
>I'd rather be killed by a human than let robots kill fractions of what humans kill.
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>>75019790
>>75019957

That's not unloading a truck though.
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>>75019643
Not really. I'd say a neutral topic on this has a 70% chance to die quickly. IF it gets some replies it has a very good chance of surviving.

An inflammatory OP has about a 10% chance to die on pol
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>>75018468
>Because I've never seen a warehouse that has an automatic forklift.
You've never seen them because they don't require people.

Don't you see? There are no people to have accidents, sue for insurance, fuck off on the job and steal and ruin merchandise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lights_out_%28manufacturing%29
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>>75019332

There will be a class of people who actually have the knowledge to maintain and expand the growing supertech infrastructure that enables everyone else to live in comfort. These people will essentially become the tech acolyte/priest class to which ultimate control of the government will fall since they're the only ones who knows how to hold the shit together.

Techno-theocracy here we come, baby.
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>>75019938
That depends on how well we answer the captchas.
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>>75018037
it is as easy as robbing a cctv laden shop
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>>75019976
Nope. It'll be decades.
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>>75019692
>They'll put P90s and .500s on them
Not here in jolly ol'. You would be able to steal a container full of goods with only a car braking in front and a van to unload the goods at the back.
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>>75020090
Lol my sides. You can solve them as we masturbate
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>>75018640
I agree, but that idiot was talking about pumping gas specifically.
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>>75016230
I pray for the day the working class is ruled out as impractical.
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>>75019938
computer vision will be better than human vision

They will see farther and in a much wider arc.
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>>75019627
>rigsec.exe has detected hostile action
>onboard cameras have taken high-resolution photographs of suspect vehicle and driver and sent them via satellite uplink to relevant law enforcement
>offsite operator is patched in to assess the situation and employ high velocity projectiles to suspect vehicles tires at discretion.
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>>75018538
>fog

this is the kinda shit where muh robots can really fucking shine but everyone is obsessed with shit tier automatic driving

where the FUCK are my IR cameras, thermal imagers, and enhanced windshields? why the fuck can't I have a system that sees through fog or projects the road lines onto my screen?

why can't I have virtual mirrors or a motorized stick that gives me a third person view for sticky parking situations


I LIKE driving. make driving great again
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>>75018584
>knowing what I know about computer programmers.
then you said
>they are going to have to program moral decisions
lol, are you a fucking retard?
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Also I would like to point out to all the naysayers is that billions of dollars is being spent to automate as many jobs as possible as quickly as possible.

The CEO's of the country know that automation is the way to increase earnings when wages are increasing.

They are automated truckers, fast food workers, tax cab drivers, warehouse people, all because they see big dollar signs in their eyes when it comes to their earnings.

So you can nay say all you want, but people who earn 1000 times more than you do are making these decisions to automated.

So its happening...
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>tfw computer engineer with specialization in mechatronics


>muh it can't work
>muh you'll still need us

Normies better start preparing to line up at their welfare offices.
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>>75019972
In the future quantum computing will end cyber crime. :D
b4uAsk
t.r/futurology
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>>75020251
No no no. I said context not clarity
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>>75018538
Radar, I guess
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>>75019972
pretty sure the company keeps track of the trucks location on gps

man, /pol/acks are really dumb, you might think some of these questions are trolling but they're actually serious. I feel like teaching a class of special ed kids.
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>>75016230
You won't replace the LTL drivers, my business is dependent on them because they are more flexible than UPS and FEDEX LTL Freight services.
Seriously, I have LTL guys running in and out of my workplace 8 times a day, with an average of 1000 per shipment.
Good luck replacing last mile delivery men too.
Seriously, that shit is so specalized it will only work in the most repetitive and controlled situations. (FL W2W) good luck meeting Restricted sites, special handling requirements etc.
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>>75018584
They wouldn't program in moral decisions lmao. They'd just program it to avoid danger. If danger is unavoidable, then shit happens. You don't know anything about how AI works, please stop.
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>>75020269
>jam signal
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>>75020033

The green arm at 1:35 could unload a truck: >>75019957
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>>75018748
>I doubt the govt. will legalize these, as 10m+ people would become unemployed and a burden on society.

Sorry to say this ameri-bro, but when was the last time ~any~ western government made a good decision regarding employment? Especially when there is profit on the line?
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>>75019976
5-8 is conservative

Most reasonable estimates are 2 years for the technology to be ready. Then a completely arbitrary deployment schedule.
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>>75020340
Fucking radar. A darting moose? Error. Error. Oops. U ded
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>>75020148
I'm going to teach it that leafs are okay to run over.

Also, how long before the robots decide to kill all Canadians?

1000 shitposts = gives someone cancer
cancer is fatal
1000 shitposts = 1 death
95% of Canadians are shitposters

The logical conclusion is to kill all Canadians.
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>>75020269
>onboard cameras have taken high-resolution photographs of suspect vehicle and driver and sent them via satellite uplink to relevant law enforcement
I'll wear a balaclava

>offsite operator is patched in to assess the situation and employ high velocity projectiles to suspect vehicles tires at discretion.
Knives are fucking illegal in England, you think there will be high velocity projectiles.

>I'll spend my loot on tendies and mountain jew
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>>75020433
Maybe if it was packed in the trailer the same way each time.
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>>75020536
Muh digital penis
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>>75020269
or just toss a spike chain on the road

or a small ied

or put a steel slug in the engine

or paintball the cameras

I for one would love to be a part of a two man truck security team


ps how does a truck tell the difference between a peice of litter and a bomb inside a coke can
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>>75020315
You shouldn't laugh.

People like you will foot the bill.
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>>75016230
Using that logic,

ELEVATORS ARE EVIL. NOW WE DON'T HAVE MANUAL PLATFORM BOYS AND THAT PREHISTORIC JOB IS NOW EXTINCT WAAAA WE SHOULD NOT ADVANCE INTO THE NEXT FUTURE TECH BECAUSE OF MUH 1900 TECH WORKERS
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>>75018584
>the moral decisions meme
If the truck detects a sudden stop in front of it, it's either going to make a loud noise and jar the driver into action (Tesla cars already do this), or if it's completely driverless it's going to slam on the breaks and attempt to stop as soon as possible.

That's it.
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>>75017419
>using power brought to you by a trucker to power it
>implying
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>>75020368
locate the gps and plant it on another car heading the same direction
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>>75016230
Not only will I NOT drive on roads driven by robots, I will actively destroy any robotic vehicles I can.

Not because I hate robots, but because I don't trust non-human drivers. I don't trust human drivers either, but I refuse to put my life in the hands of a machine. Especially after Mercedes dismal performance with their self-braking systems.

Hope you like replacing your $10,000,000 semis.
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>>75018748
>I doubt the govt. will legalize these, as 10m+ people would become unemployed and a burden on society.
you're going to want campaign finance reform then.

The unions are busted, broke and toothless. Only rich people and their companies have the money to bribe ("lobby" lol) government officials to write law in their favor.

Yes. It's over.
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>>75020615
>car breaks down in front of big rig
>rig thinks its a threat
>rig kill car
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>>75016230
Simpsons did it. It's happening.
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>>75020645
or just slow down a car in front so it stops. There are 1000's of trucks driving on the road at any time. There is no way police or security could stop theft.
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>>75020368
>pretty sure the company keeps track of the trucks location on gps

They wouldn't be stealing the entire truck, dummy.

How fast do you think a dispatch would respond to a robbery on the highway?
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>>75020762
or just, you know, unload the trailer
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>>75020368
>pretty sure the company keeps track of the trucks location on gps
I realize that, but what I mean is hacking the truck and forcing it to stop on the highway to unload it.
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>>75016230
>millions of uneducated disgruntled white men out of work

The automated truck will bring about the violent political revolution this country needs.
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>>75020766
>can't even do brakes properly
>i know. let's replace our brains with machines
Ok!
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>>75020852
>or just slow down a car in front so it stops
that too. i was just thinking of a lonely stretch of desert
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>>75019938
Robots can easily sort through all sorts of objects. They can even make a cocktail. The difficult thing will be animals. Stuff like deer crossing. Because it has to recognize the deer first, which is possible to do, but it also has to stop in time. There are also difficulties that it doesn't stop when it sees a garbage bag flying in the wind. Or if it sees a bird flying in its periphery, it stops randomly. But none of this is "impossible". They just need to be worked out.
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>>75020621
It will be packed by robotics
The robotics will know where everything is and how to unload using the reverse process.
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>>75019289
Well I did answer you dipshit.
>>75019489
Did you understand it then or was it too difficult?
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>>75020842
>truckdrivers park their trucks for 3 days
>entire nation starts starving
>all the companies are shut down and can't operate

What then
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>>75020846
Look at my flag
They are not going to arm vehicles in this country. Butter knives are banned for fucks sake.
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>>75020968
It's definitely impossible. You'd need to put the entire internet out there and then program the difference between collars, cats, and opossums. Plus about 16 quintillion other combinations. Is it wearing a leash? Oops. U ded
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>>75020369
>Good luck replacing last mile delivery men too.

They will eventually be replaced too. Fedex right now is using USPS to deliver the last mile because they already go door to door. Sure there are business accounts that don't like to use USPS but eventually it will be integrated with fedex/ups/dhl down the line. Even then USPS has been struggling and probably will look into automation too. The way I see it, USPS will simplify mailing with those huge boxes like those for gated communities. You will eventually see more and more of them. People will be forced to drive out a few blocks to get their mail or if they live in the boonies, they will have to drive into town to one of those boxes. Meaning they can cut more and more jobs. Then eventually they have something automated to connect to those boxes and it sorts them right into the correct box slots.

It wasn't too long that we thought automated cars and trucks were out of the question, now it's become a reality in the past 5-10 years since they started doing the research and investing into it.
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>>75020624
I thought this forum had more mexicans to deal with u guys
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>>75020762
you have to touch the truck first to remove the device.

>>75020615
state patrols will be alerted of the hijack before you even managed to stop the truck.

>>75020645
its easier to hijack a truck with a driver in it. at least you know a trucker's truck dont have cameras.
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>>75020475

To be fair, so would the human driver.
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>>75021007
>It will be packed by robotics
Not every delivery is to Amazon you know. A vast majority is actually to little companies and sometimes just the local government of a small town.

If amazon doesn't even have automated loading and unloading of trucks these small time people sure as hell won't.
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>>75021034
>This happens
>Companies replace white truck drivers with Pajeets or Pacos
>Continue business as usual

Or.. long term general strike
>Demand for self driving cars goes up
>Every major tech company invests in it
>Completely self driving car is produced within 1 year

wew.
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>>75021212
>at least you know a trucker's truck dont have cameras.
i'm a regular guy and my car has cameras
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>>75020645

They would send another truck after that.

Then another.

And another...

And another... Ad infinite until you give up out of fatigue.
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>>75021212
>state patrols will be alerted of the hijack before you even managed to stop the truck.
How would they be able to tell in time between you stopping a car in front of it and hijacking it and the truck being in a traffic jam?
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>>75021236
Nah
>>75021194
You don't realise how boring and shitty and depressing the future will be. We have a society of comparisons and of death wishes. All in guise of vainglory convenience or "freedoms"
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>>75021086
they not gonna do it in the us either. you can't have automated weapons that fire without human interaction. my point was legally if a rig killed someone it thought was a threat and wasn't it would be murder.
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>>75021034
>What then
Companies pretend to cave.
Build a giant fleet of automated trucks
Companies release a press statement that the new "Drone Trucks" are trustworthy, hard-working and will never-ever hold people's food supply hostage like selfish people would.

If you want to win people over, you shouldn't punish them.
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>>75021343
then i will build a castle out of trailers
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>>75021281
>This happens
>Companies replace white truck drivers with Pajeets or Pacos
>Continue business as usual

Lol they're going to do all this while they have no food in the grocery stores?

>Demand for self driving cars goes up
>Every major tech company invests in it
>Completely self driving car is produced within 1 year

Yes, I'm sure all those engineers will make it to work without gas, or care about work at all with no groceries.
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>>75018584
>not programming it to take the least amount of damage no matter the amount of life that is wasted

I don't think you understand google's priorities.
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This doesn't take into consideration how often trucks have to pull over because their load became loose.

On top of an inability to drive in weather impairment conditions, and the inability to drive on roads that haven't been meticulously scanned by interns, self-driving anything will not be a thing for 50 years.
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>>75020885
>>75020892
>you have to stop the truck to unload the packages
>control centre notices this
>check cameras, realizes robbery is taking place
>alerts highway patrol
>robbers btfo
im talking to real people here...
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>this shit wont be ready until 2025

and even then it was only for highway self driving.
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>>75021466
Does google program the programmers or do the programmers program google
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>>75021108
>You need to put the entire internet out there.
>implying
see IBM's Watson?

Also that isn't necessarily true. A 13 year old can easily write a program to tell the truck to stop for a finite list of objects that are easily encountered while driving and not to stop for anything else. Its not that hard. You seem to think big numbers or large amounts of objects are a challenge for robots.
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>>75016230

Simpsons predicted it already
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>>75021212
>STATE PATROL
two cops ever 50 miles of highway
>alerted before you stop the truck
so it just new it was about to get robbed cause?
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>>75021574
Ok so how many species are there. It must know age and size correlations. A small cat or say a small raccoon. Oh yes. Programming. Programming. Oops. U ded.
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Fuck that. Robot trucks will never be able to haul 400 cases of Coors from Texas to Georgia, in 28 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtjMtEkDhY
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>>75021421
Why won't they have food in the grocery stores?

Why won't we have gas? I just said Pajeet and Paco will take care of it. You seem to think the world revolves around the toil of white men. When your menial jobs can easily be replaced by others who want to work and will work for less and won't complain about it or threaten to destabilize the economy because your stupid jobs are threatened.
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Imagine when shitposting is done by a battery of Tay-style AIs.

/pol/ meatbags BTFO for real when that happens.
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>>75021664
Why must it know age and size? Do you even know anything about robots?
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>>75020431
>satellite uplink
>jamming

goodluck, Einstein. youll need some serious shit for that. life isn't a video game
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>>75021342
thats why highway robberies arent common these days.

>>75021375
the command centre have people qualified to tell from the cameras installed around the truck if the truck is in a traffic jam or not.
wow, you're really stupid.
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>>75021516
>you have to stop the truck to unload the packages
>control centre notices this
>check cameras, realizes robbery is taking place
>alerts highway patrol
>robbers btfo
Life isn't a movie, people get away with hijacking trucks now. I'm just telling you it will be a lot easier without a human driver. People will work this out quickly and the police won't be able to deal with the amount thefts.
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>>75021733
>Why won't they have food in the grocery stores?

Because the trucks will be shut down.
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>>75021156
Smartpost(fedex) and Surepost (UPS) is just last mile because small parcel shit is cheaper to hand off to a FEDERALLY subsidized PUBLIC service.
Anything bigger than a few books, heavier than 25 or 50 lbs, then it is cheaper to just do it themselves.
There is a lot of math involved, and it is beyond me, I just pick the cheapest, and best option for my situation. Most of the time though, it is cheaper to send the big boxes (24x18x12 @ 30+ LBS) directly, express and ground.
Also, people will always be willing to pay for the convenience of having someone drop shit off at their doorstep, or schedule a pickup. I usually have to absorb the cost of that and figure the overhead into my next cost revision.
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>>75020852
>What are high security locks?
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>>75020766
>Not only will I NOT drive on roads driven by robots
You probably won't be allowed actually. I can see whole highways being "self-driving car" only because people like you are stupid, irresponsible, and dangerous behind the wheel compared to a robot.

you shouldn't trust human drivers.

Human drivers space out, text, eat, put on makeup, ugly cry, get sick, drive drunk, get road rage, etc. etc.

Self driving cars do NONE OF THAT. They have one singular function and that's to follow all traffic laws and drive as carefully and safely as possible.
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>>75021516
lol, not how this shit works
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>>75021761
Meat bags and silicon sacks
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>>75021761
95% of online posts and discourse will be from AI promoting specific ideologies. It's going to be great.
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>>75021854
wtf? Are you retarded? How can you shut down trucks? If you aren't going to work that doesn't mean no one else can work. If you decide to protest, someone else can always drive the truck. The truck isn't going to not work just because you want it to.
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>>75021791
What do you mean why. I just told you. It must know all the stages of development and their corresponding sizes for literally all people animals and things and differentiate between similar but unequal threats
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>>75021343
>They would send another truck after that.
Typical semi is carrying over $1,000,000 or more in goods, plus the cost of the tractor.
The cost would add up fast. Not to mention the lost product would slow down the market as a whole. And time is money.
If fact, trucking time is so valuable that truckers usually keep two logbooks. One "legal" one they give to DOT/weigh stations, the other one with real stats given to the company.
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>>75021830
>the command centre have people qualified to tell from the cameras installed around the truck if the truck is in a traffic jam or not.wow, you're really stupid.

No you're stupid how many of these 'high tech control centres' that are for burglar alarms stop burglaries?
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>>75021874
>he thinks locks actually keep anyone out of anything

Yes, this fleet of driverless semis is going to have bank vault doors.
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>>75017577
My brother in law said the automatic transmission is surprisingly good on those. I remain skeptical, but I have a master's degree so I don't really have to worry about it one way or the other.
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>>75021086

dude GTFO nothing cool ever happens in bongistan
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>>75021516
you think we have one highway with cops every 100 yards? if the truck called the cops every time it stopped they would stop thinking it was a robbery pretty quick.
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>>75021874
>What are high security locks?
What is an angle grinder?
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>>75021514

Nope it will be a lot sooner. Thanks to regulations like Obamacare and the raising min wage. Companies will have $$ incentive to start replacing parts of their fleet.

Just like with automated cashiers. You first saw one or two 8-10 years ago. People didn't like them because people are old fashioned or they didn't want to mess with them. But now you see nothing but automated cashiers in albertsons/vons/walmarts/home depot --- with the exception of 1-2 open regular lines again because some people are old fashioned and hate using self checkout. But again, they have someone standing there persuading customers, the regular lines are too long and ask customers to use the self checkout with that worker's help to show people it's not that hard. People will hate the 1-2 lines that are way too long and decide to start using self checkout. They will get everyone on board eventually. Regular cashiering will be phased out in the next few years as states like CA/WA start their push for $15/hour which has already passed. CA has $10/hour right now and going up every year. All the more incentives for companies to have nothing but self checkout.
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>>75016230
let's push this to the extreme, what jobs will be available once all the manual labor jobs like driving, cooking, servicing are taken? everybody will have to become a stem fag?
i mean whats' the end game?????
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>>75022027
>The truck isn't going to not work just because you want it to.

>what is an owner operator

Jesus it's like I'm talking to 14 yearolds.
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>>75021574
Are you 13 or is the most complex thing you have written a shitty php website?

This shit isn't easy and every application has to be constantly augmented for a variety of reasons. If a 13 year old could write programs to make trucks stop, the Venus Project would have been a success years ago. Instead we have Canadian asshats like you who still can't grasp the baseline complexity of computer programming.
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>>75021898
>computers never fail

But they do, and they fail often enough and catastrophically enough that when computers make mistakes it effects thousands of people.
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>>75021537
Things change when there is a huge collective rather than individuals. I'd almost say the collective body in favor of profit actually programs the programmers.
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>>75021733
how is that driver-less?
>if they don't like driver-less rigs we'll just hire other drivers!
wut
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>>75022319
Of course it does
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>>75022246
Computers don't make mistakes, programmers do.
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>>75022246
>But they do, and they fail often enough and catastrophically enough that when computers make mistakes it effects thousands of people.
You're being hyperbolic. One truck stopping and pulling over due to a malfunction of its redundant systems isn't going to make thousands suddenly die.

Thousands and thousands die every year due to human error on the road. These trucks and cars will make that a thing of the past.
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>>75022168
The end game is new stage of evolution.

AI advancing past what we could do biologically.
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>>75021898
>Self driving cars do NONE OF THAT.
*cues Jezza, Hamster, and Captain Slow laughing as Mercedes rams ANOTHER sedan into the ass of a truck to demonstrate their automated braking system*
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>>75019859
>working in a warehouse for the summer because university's out
>been here for a week hating the motony and already working on building something that'll do half my job of moving boxes off a truck
>manager is interested in my prototype
I can't tell if I'm building myself out of a job or if I'll build a handful for the manager, and go work at another warehouse and repeat.
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>>75022246

All robots have to do is only kill 39,999 people and they would still be better than humans.
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>>75022411
Why did the xbox die in the way it did. What is a bsod? Talk to chat bots. They're idiots. Yes watson knows things. But it has no emotions. No experiences. If it encounters something new like we all do driving every day. Oops. U ded
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>>75016672
Most of the trucking schools in the northeast don't even train manual anymore, or if they do it's a side-thing they don't really go hard on but only the basic understanding. They know that most OTR companies are rocking fleets of automatics, and the only people driving manuals still are owner-operators.

I mostly speak of the big schools and the big companies. Swift, etc...

The irony is that it was only an intermediate step to this full automation, which is inevitable. I think the next few years could be very interesting from a revolutionary perspective when you consider that most of the "retard jobs" could be completely wiped out depending on how aggressive corporate power wants to get with revamping/investing in their infrastructure.

We don't switch from our gas station infrastructure to a more modern fueling vehicle infrastructure because it'd be costly and they still make a killing on oil/gas.

But they're chomping at the bit to automate the transportation industry:
- Bye fuckbag UPS drivers holding wheels
- Bye pizzaboys wanting tips
- Bye OTR truckers aka wheelholders

and food service:
- Bye McNegress "I gettin yo fried howd up I gotta check muh instagram"
- Bye nigger pissing on corn flakes conveyor belt
- Bye nigger in the picture sucking off the Wendy's frosty machine

in retail:
- Bye stupid negress at checkout line "takin mah time ringin up yo shit I dun care if the lines are backed up to the meat department in the other end of the store"
- Bye nu male faggot at gamestop trying to ask me "so you lookin' forward to the new NBA2k18 bro?" even though he's a white cuck with his mom getting blacked
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>>75022510
Nigger nobody cares about us. They will kill us all
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>>75022035
Not it doesn't. It just needs to stop if an animal is obstructing its path. Doesn't matter if the animal is a baby or an adult, it just can't kill the animal. The difficultly is stopping the car in time so that the animal is not hurt. There are a finite number of animals in the world. In fact most animals and their species and different subspecies have already been categorized and listed on numerous encyclopedia. These numbers are easily handled by even the most primitive computers. In fact the computer doesn't even need to have every animal in the world. It just needs to recognize animals that could be on the road. You won't see a panda on a North American high way. You will only see a handful of species. You seem to have a difficultly understanding that the scale of a task is not a difficultly for computers. Computers excel at handling massive amounts of information. Billions of different types of info are easily computed. The difficultly is programming it to do niche tasks that may be encountered.
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>>75022218
gay couples in the old days were so brave :')
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>>75016230
oh dear i heard this might have been coming soon
>it's actually happening
fuck shit is about to get real
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>>75021797
just google "jam satellite signal" and tell me it its more or less real than self driving rigs are now.
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>>75022453
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2015/06/08/there-are-about-1-7-million-rear-end-collisions-on-u-s-roads-each-year-heres-how-to-stop-them/

people have already lost.
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